[users] PDF problemen
Ik kan zonder problemen van een Open Office doc.een PDF maken. Kan ik van een PDF doc. een Open Office doc. maken. De scanner heeft onmiddellijk een PDF doc. gemaakt en ik krijg het wel open , maar het zijn allerlei lettertjes die op het scherm komen, maar niet de juiste mvg Rene Vanden Driessche-- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
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I have just noticed a very disturbing behavior in writer when creating documents with fields then exporting to PDF. If you open the PDF in Acrobat the do a save as, all the text in the document is converted to little boxes. If you remove the fields and re-export the document the file will save as normally. Clearly something in writer is injecting something, along with the codes for the fields, that corrupts the PDF. This behavior renders this function of writer totally worthless. I hope that this is a minor thing that will be corrected soon. I will try to create a bug report on this. -- Gene Young - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:46:06 -0700 Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: Hello Robert, ..to say nothing of security concerns. Goes without saying; Applies to lots of software. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent This disease is catching Into The Valley - Skids signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On 12/26/10 15:12, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:46:36 -0500 David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote: Hello David, Foxit Reader is WINDOWS ONLY, a fact that I did not know Look at; http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/index.php More than Windows d/l's there. until I looked on their web site. (This annoys me greatly, as I prefer to use tools that work on Linux and Windows.) I did try Foxit, and it loads very fast on my machine. Sadly, it wouldn't print anything here (an absolute must, AFAIAC) I didn't have time to examine why, but there was a complaint about 64 bit drivers on my (64 bit) machine. An issue for another day, perhaps. I have not found another reader that works on both Linux and Windows and has nearly the useful features of the PDF readers from Adobe and Foxit. Okular (KDE), evince and xpdf are obvious candidates. IIRC, evince will now allow the filling in of forms, much as Adobe's reader does. Of course, you may well have tried all of those and others besides. Thanks for your reasoning about your answer. NP. Everybody has different technical abilities, and without clues as to what those abilities might be, baby steps (starting close to familiar ground) are generally better, I find. It soon becomes obvious whether it's possible to take bigger leaps. I do not have the earlier parts of this thread, so I do not know why people are looking for something other than Adobe Reader for Windows and Linux. Is there a problem with your system dealing with Adobe Reader? It is the defacto default option. [ actually the earlier parts of the thread are not in my users@openoffice.org folder, so I cannot read those posts ] I know that Adobe Reader shows up in the repositories for Ubuntu 10.10 and there are a number of other document viewers in Linux that can read PDF files. I use the default Document Viewer for my PDF reading. Then I use CUPS PDF printing options to create PDF files in Ubuntu/Linux and doPDF to create PDF files in Windows. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:54:35 -0500 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Hello webmas...@krackedpress.com, I do not have the earlier parts of this thread, so I do not know why people are looking for something other than Adobe Reader for Windows and Linux. Is there a problem with your system dealing with Adobe Reader? It is the defacto default option. The problem is either, one of licensing or, one of speed, usually. There are plenty of people that object to the license Adobe use to distribute their reader. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Walking through town is quite scary I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:20:03 -0800 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello John, I have Foxit Reader installed on Fedora 14 x86_64. It prints just fine. Strange. All the reading I did indicated I'd have to install 32bit versions of the relevant .so files. Maybe I didn't read enough. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent White people going to school, where they teach you to be thick White Riot - The Clash signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:13:50 + Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk dijo: On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:20:03 -0800 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello John, I have Foxit Reader installed on Fedora 14 x86_64. It prints just fine. Strange. All the reading I did indicated I'd have to install 32bit versions of the relevant .so files. Maybe I didn't read enough. I'm far from an expert on this subject, but after moving from four years of 64-bit Ubuntu to 64-bit Fedora last year I discovered that installing 32-bit apps in Fedora is trivial compared to the frequent hassles in Ubuntu. In fact, frequently the repositories show a 64-bit and a 32-bit version of the application. Installing 32-bit programs just works. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:54:35 -0500 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo: I know that Adobe Reader shows up in the repositories for Ubuntu 10.10 and there are a number of other document viewers in Linux that can read PDF files. I use the default Document Viewer for my PDF reading. Then I use CUPS PDF printing options to create PDF files in Ubuntu/Linux and doPDF to create PDF files in Windows. There are advantages and disadvantages: CUPS-PDF rasterizes everything, so text cannot be searched. If that is not an issue, then it does a generally good job, and since you print to it you can create a PDF from any application that can print. The PDF files are also small, sometimes a consideration when sending in e-mails. Evince can open editable PDFs (PDF forms), but you cannot enter anything in the fields. Otherwise it is fine, and it has a good export to PS or PDF function. I frequently open large PDF files and use Evince to export to PDF, which usually results in a much smaller PDF file. Doing so also flattens a PDF that has transparency, which is often a problem when printing to non-Postscript printers. Okular (formerly KPDF) does a great job of opening PS files, and can save as PDF. You can also enter data in the fields of an editable PDF. It has issues with printing, however, although usually I can get what I want if I poke at it long enough - e.g., a landscape page prints as portrait, among other tribulations. Adobe Reader is the best, but it is proprietary, slow to load, and can't open PS files. Cabaret and Foxit are also proprietary, and sometimes tricky to get installed. I use them only if all of the above are being brats. Check out also GSView, a rather bare-bones viewer It can't open PS files, but does a fine job with PDFs. It uses Ghostscript for its engine, where I believe all the other open source readers use poppler libraries. Therefore, if you have a PDF that won't render well in the other open source readers, GSView may do the job. There is also PDFEdit, which is a GUI that allows you to rearrange pages - useful for simple impositions. You can also do some really minimal editing, but it's nowhere near as capable as Acrobat. I do a lot of DTP work, so I need all of the above. My first choice is Adobe Reader, followed by Okular, but if I need to do something special sometimes one of the other readers is better for the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:04:56 -0800 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello John, I'm far from an expert on this subject, but after moving from four Likewise. Consequently, I'm a little confused by what's happening on my system. Still, it's not a major issue for me. One day, I'll investigate further. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent He looked the wrong way at a policeman I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 02:09:49PM +, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:54:35 -0500 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Hello webmas...@krackedpress.com, I do not have the earlier parts of this thread, so I do not know why people are looking for something other than Adobe Reader for Windows and Linux. Is there a problem with your system dealing with Adobe Reader? It is the defacto default option. The problem is either, one of licensing or, one of speed, usually. There are plenty of people that object to the license Adobe use to distribute their reader. ..to say nothing of security concerns. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Walking through town is quite scary I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:05:33 -0500 David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote: Hello David, I find that Foxit Reader is smaller, loads quicker, and is There are several options available to those that simply wish to read PDFs. I suggested Adobe's reader because it's (probably) the one most people will have heard of, and likely to be available to run on the end users OS; Other options are Windows only, some Linux only, and so forth. As Sam hadn't specified an OS, I thought it best to avoid a (say) Linux only solution. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Walking through town is quite scary I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On 12/26/2010 5:56 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: There are several options available to those that simply wish to read PDFs. I suggested Adobe's reader because it's (probably) the one most people will have heard of, and likely to be available to run on the end users OS; Other options are Windows only, some Linux only, and so forth. As Sam hadn't specified an OS, I thought it best to avoid a (say) Linux only solution. DANG IT! Foxit Reader is WINDOWS ONLY, a fact that I did not know until I looked on their web site. (This annoys me greatly, as I prefer to use tools that work on Linux and Windows.) I have not found another reader that works on both Linux and Windows and has nearly the useful features of the PDF readers from Adobe and Foxit. If you know of one, please advise. It remains true that Foxit is better and faster for WINDOWS ONLY than any reader I have used. I have several installed here. Thanks for your reasoning about your answer. David Teague - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:46:36 -0500 David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote: Hello David, Foxit Reader is WINDOWS ONLY, a fact that I did not know Look at; http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/index.php More than Windows d/l's there. until I looked on their web site. (This annoys me greatly, as I prefer to use tools that work on Linux and Windows.) I did try Foxit, and it loads very fast on my machine. Sadly, it wouldn't print anything here (an absolute must, AFAIAC) I didn't have time to examine why, but there was a complaint about 64 bit drivers on my (64 bit) machine. An issue for another day, perhaps. I have not found another reader that works on both Linux and Windows and has nearly the useful features of the PDF readers from Adobe and Foxit. Okular (KDE), evince and xpdf are obvious candidates. IIRC, evince will now allow the filling in of forms, much as Adobe's reader does. Of course, you may well have tried all of those and others besides. Thanks for your reasoning about your answer. NP. Everybody has different technical abilities, and without clues as to what those abilities might be, baby steps (starting close to familiar ground) are generally better, I find. It soon becomes obvious whether it's possible to take bigger leaps. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Does she always shout at you, does she tell you what to do Family Life - Sham 69 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On 12/26/2010 2:46 PM, David B Teague wrote: DANG IT! Foxit Reader is WINDOWS ONLY, a fact that I did not know until I looked on their web site. (This annoys me greatly, as I prefer to use tools that work on Linux and Windows.) Double DANG! I was twice wrong. Foxit reader exists for Linux. I didn't find it for Mac. See http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/index.php There I find this: Foxit Reader for Desktop Linux Product Name Learn More Size Date Foxit Reader 1.1 Build 20090810 for Desktop Linux(bz2) More Download | Info | PAD 3.61 MB 08/13/0 Also for SDKs, Foxit for Windows, and many PDF tools. Regards David Teague
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:18:37 -0500 David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote: Hello David, Double DANG! /I was twice wrong. /Foxit reader exists for Linux. I didn't find it for Mac. Indeed; I hadn't noticed lack of Mac build. The printing issue would appear to be because I run a pure 64 bit system, but the Foxit executable is 32 bit. Consequently, trying to load libraries will fail: Can't load 64 bit stuff into a 32 bit process. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I'm not here for your entertainment U Ur Hand - P!nk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:47:48 + Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk dijo: On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:18:37 -0500 David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote: Hello David, Double DANG! /I was twice wrong. /Foxit reader exists for Linux. I didn't find it for Mac. Indeed; I hadn't noticed lack of Mac build. The printing issue would appear to be because I run a pure 64 bit system, but the Foxit executable is 32 bit. Consequently, trying to load libraries will fail: Can't load 64 bit stuff into a 32 bit process. I have Foxit Reader installed on Fedora 14 x86_64. It prints just fine. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On 12/24/2010 7:27 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 17:16:08 +0530 Sam Swaminathsamitpfin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sam, I am not able open up Adobe PDF Files, as Adobe pop-up says 'that my trial run is over, now buy'. This pop-up is from Adobe Acrobat version 7. Is there any free version wherein I can open Adobe PDF Files sent by Mutual funds Credit Card Statememnts? If all you wish to do is _read_ the PDFs, you only need a reader, not the full Acrobat (which allows editing/creating PDFs). The reader is a free download from the Adobe site, and is not time limited in any way. I find that Foxit Reader is smaller, loads quicker, and is reputed to be safer than the Adobe product. I find that it has useful features that the Adobe reader does not. Try it, it is free, and I believe you will like it. I have no connection to the company or people who produce Foxit products. I'm just a satisfied user. --David
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Den 2010-12-25 15:05:33 skrev David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net: On 12/24/2010 7:27 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 17:16:08 +0530 Sam Swaminathsamitpfin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sam, I am not able open up Adobe PDF Files, as Adobe pop-up says 'that my trial run is over, now buy'. This pop-up is from Adobe Acrobat version 7. Is there any free version wherein I can open Adobe PDF Files sent by Mutual funds Credit Card Statememnts? If all you wish to do is _read_ the PDFs, you only need a reader, not the full Acrobat (which allows editing/creating PDFs). The reader is a free download from the Adobe site, and is not time limited in any way. I find that Foxit Reader is smaller, loads quicker, and is reputed to be safer than the Adobe product. I find that it has useful features that the Adobe reader does not. Try it, it is free, and I believe you will like it. I have no connection to the company or people who produce Foxit products. I'm just a satisfied user. --David Can Foxit open a PDF form and save it again when you filled it in? Adobe Reader can not do that, however I found recently that Evince can! :) -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF
Dear Friends Please help me to find where is mistake. Open Office create PDF wihout collors of page. I tried to use: - More version Open Office, including portable version. - Go Open Office - Libre Office Also I tried to make PDF with PDF Redirect. All these results were bad. Also I used Reg Cleaner and I installed more versions of Open Office again. I studied setting but nothing helped. Only if I used Word, then PDF was created well with colours of page. Please help me, because I want to use Open Office, I like it. Thank you. Martin. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF
Dear Friends Please help me to find where is mistake. Open Office create PDF wihout collors of page. I tried to use: - More version Open Office, including portable version. - Go Open Office - Libre Office Also I tried to make PDF with PDF Redirect. All these results were bad. Also I used Reg Cleaner and I installed more versions of Open Office again. I studied setting but nothing helped. Only if I used Word, then PDF was created well with colours of page. Please help me, because I want to use Open Office, I like it. Thank you. Martin. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF
Dear Friends Please help me to find where is mistake. Open Office create PDF wihout collors of page. I tried to use: - More version Open Office, including portable version. - Go Open Office - Libre Office Also I tried to make PDF with PDF Redirect. All these results were bad. Also I used Reg Cleaner and I installed more versions of Open Office again. I studied setting but nothing helped. Only if I used Word, then PDF was created well with colours of page. Please help me, because I want to use Open Office, I like it. Thank you. Martin. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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Hi, I am not able open up Adobe PDF Files, as Adobe pop-up says 'that my trial run is over, now buy'. This pop-up is from Adobe Acrobat version 7. Is there any free version wherein I can open Adobe PDF Files sent by Mutual funds Credit Card Statememnts? Thanks, Sam 2010/12/23 * rainbow.a...@centrum.cz Dear Friends Please help me to find where is mistake. Open Office create PDF wihout collors of page. I tried to use: - More version Open Office, including portable version. - Go Open Office - Libre Office Also I tried to make PDF with PDF Redirect. All these results were bad. Also I used Reg Cleaner and I installed more versions of Open Office again. I studied setting but nothing helped. Only if I used Word, then PDF was created well with colours of page. Please help me, because I want to use Open Office, I like it. Thank you. Martin. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org -- SAM
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 17:16:08 +0530 Sam Swaminath samitpfin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sam, I am not able open up Adobe PDF Files, as Adobe pop-up says 'that my trial run is over, now buy'. This pop-up is from Adobe Acrobat version 7. Is there any free version wherein I can open Adobe PDF Files sent by Mutual funds Credit Card Statememnts? If all you wish to do is _read_ the PDFs, you only need a reader, not the full Acrobat (which allows editing/creating PDFs). The reader is a free download from the Adobe site, and is not time limited in any way. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I'll be the rubbish you'll be the bin Love Song - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Hi, Thanks. I tried. The reader opens up. Happy Christmas New Year Sam On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 17:16:08 +0530 Sam Swaminath samitpfin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sam, I am not able open up Adobe PDF Files, as Adobe pop-up says 'that my trial run is over, now buy'. This pop-up is from Adobe Acrobat version 7. Is there any free version wherein I can open Adobe PDF Files sent by Mutual funds Credit Card Statememnts? If all you wish to do is _read_ the PDFs, you only need a reader, not the full Acrobat (which allows editing/creating PDFs). The reader is a free download from the Adobe site, and is not time limited in any way. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I'll be the rubbish you'll be the bin Love Song - The Damned -- SAM
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:10:39 +0530 Sam Swaminath samitpfin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sam, Thanks. I tried. The reader opens up. You're welcome, Sam. Happy Christmas New Year And to you. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Life's short, don't make a mess of it No Time To Be 21 - The Adverts signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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At 23:56 22/12/2010 +0100, Martin Asterisk wrote: Please help me to find where is mistake. Open Office create PDF without colors of page. I'm not sure which colours you mean here. Do you mean text colours, highlight colours, or background colours - or something else? This is just a guess, but go to Tools | Options... | OpenOffice.org Writer | Print | Contents. You will need to have Background ticked in order to export backgrounds, and to have Print black not ticked in order to export text colours. I trust this helps. Brian Barker PS: The answers to your other two questions are much the same. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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Le 15/12/2010 19:58, Johnny Rosenberg a écrit : Den 2010-12-15 07:40:17 skrev Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@laposte.net: Le 10/12/2010 19:39, Douglas Hinds a écrit : OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. Hi, PDF is not a document format intended to editing. If you need to modify such kind of document why not ask the author a copy of the original in editable format (.odt, .doc, etc.) ? So why does Adobe make their Acrobat program? Make Money Fast ? ;-) By providing a very expensive solution to a very simple problem if everybody did his job correctly ? If you have to modify a document, edit this document, not its printed-to-file image. If the author does not provide you the source doc, it means he does not grant you the right to modify his document. Best regards JBF -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On 16 December 2010 07:15, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: snip PDF is not meant for editing. Period. snip So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ... -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
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Il 16/12/2010 11:08, Harold Fuchs ha scritto: On 16 December 2010 07:15, Marcello Romanimrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: snip PDF is not meant for editing. Period. snip So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ... No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that one can edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature. That said, as this thread demonstrates there is quite a lot of software which can edit a PDF. But what can be edited and the quality of the results depend also on how the document was created. I've seen PDFs which could be opened with a text editor and easily modified (with some care), but I've also seen PDFs which just contain a jpg scan of a paper document. In between you find all degrees of human-readability and editability. -- Marcello Romani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On 16 December 2010 10:41, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: Il 16/12/2010 11:08, Harold Fuchs ha scritto: On 16 December 2010 07:15, Marcello Romanimrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: snip PDF is not meant for editing. Period. snip So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ... No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that one can edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature. Why bother to write the Acrobat software if PDF is not *designed* to be edited? Under your assumption a pseudo printer would be all that was necessary. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
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Il 16/12/2010 11:49, Harold Fuchs ha scritto: On 16 December 2010 10:41, Marcello Romanimrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: Il 16/12/2010 11:08, Harold Fuchs ha scritto: On 16 December 2010 07:15, Marcello Romanimrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: snip PDF is not meant for editing. Period. snip So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ... No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that one can edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature. Why bother to write the Acrobat software if PDF is not *designed* to be edited? Under your assumption a pseudo printer would be all that was necessary. I presume one can produce PDFs of different quality using different software. PDFCreator is in fact all I use (on Windows, on Linux I don't even need that), but I suppose if my business was industrial printing I'd probably need the Adobe software or even something better. The fact that Adobe software is not being used as a word processor and the fact that producing PDFs (output format) is a common feature while importing PDFs (input format) is a special case must be telling us something. -- Marcello Romani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On 12/16/10 11:49, Harold Fuchs wrote: PDF is not meant for editing. Period. snip So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ... No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that one can edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature. Why bother to write the Acrobat software if PDF is not *designed* to be edited? Under your assumption a pseudo printer would be all that was necessary. PDF was never designed to be an editable format. From the ISO PDF abstract (yes, PDF is much older than this ISO document, but the definition of what a PDF is, is pretty much the same now as it was almost 20 years ago) http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=51502 : ISO 32000-1:2008 specifies a digital form for representing electronic documents to enable users to exchange and view electronic documents independent of the environment in which they were created or the environment in which they are viewed or printed. PDF has always been about being able to exchange, view and print documents regardless of the original software used to _create_ the PDF. Yes you can edit PDFs directly using various applications such as Inkscape or Adobe Acrobat, but in reality, PDF is simply a delivery format that can be read and printed (unless printing is restricted) on any current OS. It is a delivery format that ensures that the end user can view the document if they do not have access to the original document and original software used to create the PDF. In effect PDF is a digital printout of a document. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 20:39, Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com wrote: OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. I installed the extension OO offers for doing that but the results were not adequate. I no longer use Windows. Can anyone suggest a Linux Application (I'm running Mint - a version of Ubuntu) that would allow me to convert PDF files to a format editable in OO? Thanks in advance for your suggestions. I recommend this gem: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport It will let you export ODT documents as PDF, with the original ODT file embedded in the PDF. Standard PDF readers will see the file as a PDF, and Open Office will let you edit it like an ODT. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
... But doesn't the rtf format ensure precisely that ? I really do not see the point in using pdf, which is a nuisance if you want to work on the document later. Clayton a écrit : On 12/16/10 11:49, Harold Fuchs wrote: PDF is not meant for editing. Period. snip So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ... No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that one can edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature. Why bother to write the Acrobat software if PDF is not *designed* to be edited? Under your assumption a pseudo printer would be all that was necessary. PDF was never designed to be an editable format. From the ISO PDF abstract (yes, PDF is much older than this ISO document, but the definition of what a PDF is, is pretty much the same now as it was almost 20 years ago) http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=51502 : ISO 32000-1:2008 specifies a digital form for representing electronic documents to enable users to exchange and view electronic documents independent of the environment in which they were created or the environment in which they are viewed or printed. PDF has always been about being able to exchange, view and print documents regardless of the original software used to _create_ the PDF. Yes you can edit PDFs directly using various applications such as Inkscape or Adobe Acrobat, but in reality, PDF is simply a delivery format that can be read and printed (unless printing is restricted) on any current OS. It is a delivery format that ensures that the end user can view the document if they do not have access to the original document and original software used to create the PDF. In effect PDF is a digital printout of a document. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
On 12/16/10 12:52, Trad Griesmar wrote: ... But doesn't the rtf format ensure precisely that ? I really do not see the point in using pdf, which is a nuisance if you want to work on the document later. RTF is a mess of multiple versions, multiple implementations etc. You cannot guarantee that an RTF created in MS Word will open correctly in OpenOffice.org... it might.. it might not. Data and formatting can and does get lost. Microsoft has historically, and consistently mucked about with the RTF specification (it is their format, and their spec, so they can do this)... so it works well with MS Office, but once you step outside of that arena, you cannot count on anything anymore. PDF ensures that, as a digital printout of the original document, all formatting, fonts, layouts etc are as intended by the original author. It's not designed to be a document that you exchange around for editing - use ODF for that :-) C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Le 10/12/2010 19:39, Douglas Hinds a écrit : OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. Hi, PDF is not a document format intended to editing. If you need to modify such kind of document why not ask the author a copy of the original in editable format (.odt, .doc, etc.) ? And yes, I know PDFimport extension, but it is useful only for very light modifications like to complete a form. Best regards JBF -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Den 2010-12-15 07:40:17 skrev Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@laposte.net: Le 10/12/2010 19:39, Douglas Hinds a écrit : OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. Hi, PDF is not a document format intended to editing. If you need to modify such kind of document why not ask the author a copy of the original in editable format (.odt, .doc, etc.) ? So why does Adobe make their Acrobat program? A cassette tape was originally intended for speech only, not music, but a few decades later some manufacturers actually made some quite capable cassettes and decks, like TDK, Nakamichi and many others, and people used them for music as well, in fact I think the most common use was music. Things doesn't necessarily need to be what they were originally intended to be. And good luck to ask the authorities to send you editable copies of their stuff. I tried that a few years ago. They said that they have been thinking about uploading their documents in DOC (Microsoft) format. Well, that's better than nothing, but still today, a few years later, there is still only the PDF on their site. However, that was a PDF form thing (FDF?) and a few days ago I discovered that I can fill in those and save them with Evince, which was impossible a few months ago, I think. But that doesn't solve the OP's issue. Seems like he is looking for some kind of Linux equivalent of Adobe Acrobat, so the question is probably: Is there such a thing out there somewhere? Unfortunately the answer seems to be no. And yes, I know PDFimport extension, but it is useful only for very light modifications like to complete a form. Best regards JBF -- Best regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Il 10/12/2010 21:47, Douglas Hinds ha scritto: It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not adequate. OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and each and every line is included in it's own text box so the documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing. The letterhead didn't appear, either. And we are describing a pdf document created in writer and exported to pdf from there. What type of editing do you want to do? I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable form. Where does OOo fail to do what you want? It doesn't do the above. OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means it's a graphics rather than a document file. Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is the reason for my post today to users at oo.org. Any ideas? Douglas Hinds - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org PDF is not meant for editing. Period. OTOH, I had good results with Inkscape when I tried to apply minor modification to simple PDFs. -- Marcello Romani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re[4]: [users] PDF Conversion
Will Acrobat run under WINE? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=847 I had installed Adobe CS4 Master Collection under WinXP Pro 32 (which includes Acrobat Pro) on a computer I no longer have. It was a legal copy so I should be able to download it again, but http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=versioniId=12735 shows poor results running ubuntu v. 10.04 (which Mint 9 is based on. I expect to upgrade to Mint 10 but am in no hurry and IAC, no one has indicated better results. Since I had been using Solid Converter PDF with good results (which I've haven't been able to get running under Wine) I used it very little. Both PDF Edit and PDF Studio do an equally adequate job converting text to txt files but I haven't had much luck getting the former to underline or high text while the Commercial App (PDF Studio) does this very well. It adds DEMO in big letters across the page but this will disappear by paying $60 dollars (not cheap - more than Sold Converter PDF - but cheaper that Acrobat Pro and it's a Linux program). I haven't had much luck using GhostScript so at present this seems to be the solution that comes the closest to providing the functionality I had under Windows with SC pdf). (I am still looking at PostScript / PDF convertors for Linux http://artifex.com/ There is also a possibility that Acrobat Pro would run OK under VirtualBox or something similar. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion
On 10 December 2010 20:43, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: Den 2010-12-10 21:13:38 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com: Todd Goatley suggested: Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO. Thank you for your response, but: Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program There is a Linux version of Adobe Reader, I've used it for years. For Adobe Acrobat however, there is no Linux version as far as I know, but that was not what was suggested. snip Will Acrobat run under WINE? -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion
Den 2010-12-12 12:18:58 skrev Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com: On 10 December 2010 20:43, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: Den 2010-12-10 21:13:38 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com: Todd Goatley suggested: Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO. Thank you for your response, but: Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program There is a Linux version of Adobe Reader, I've used it for years. For Adobe Acrobat however, there is no Linux version as far as I know, but that was not what was suggested. snip Will Acrobat run under WINE? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=847 -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF Conversion
OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. I installed the extension OO offers for doing that but the results were not adequate. I no longer use Windows. Can anyone suggest a Linux Application (I'm running Mint - a version of Ubuntu) that would allow me to convert PDF files to a format editable in OO? Thanks in advance for your suggestions. -- Douglas Hinds - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Douglas Hinds wrote: OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. I installed the extension OO offers for doing that but the results were not adequate. I no longer use Windows. Can anyone suggest a Linux Application (I'm running Mint - a version of Ubuntu) that would allow me to convert PDF files to a format editable in OO? Thanks in advance for your suggestions. It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not adequate. What type of editing do you want to do? Where does OOo fail to do what you want? Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO. Todd Goatley Email: tgoat...@gmail.com Mobile mail: 7752230...@tmomail.com C: 775-223-0839 Sent from myTouch 4G - Reply message - From: Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] PDF Conversion Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 10:51 Douglas Hinds wrote: OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. I installed the extension OO offers for doing that but the results were not adequate. I no longer use Windows. Can anyone suggest a Linux Application (I'm running Mint - a version of Ubuntu) that would allow me to convert PDF files to a format editable in OO? Thanks in advance for your suggestions. It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not adequate. What type of editing do you want to do? Where does OOo fail to do what you want? Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Den 2010-12-10 19:39:44 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com: OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. I installed the extension OO offers for doing that but the results were not adequate. I no longer use Windows. Can anyone suggest a Linux Application (I'm running Mint - a version of Ubuntu) that would allow me to convert PDF files to a format editable in OO? Thanks in advance for your suggestions. What kind of ”editing” do you frequently want to do? If it is simple things like filling in a PDF form (FDF), you can use Evince. I discovered that the other day by accident… I know that it didn't work in earlier versions, but now it does (I use Evince 2.32.0). You can fill in some fields, save the document, open it again and continue editing the fields. You still can not do that in Adobe Reader though. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion
Todd Goatley suggested: Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO. Thank you for your response, but: Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program, and Saving to a text file (equivalent to extracting the text) means that I lose both the graphics and the rest of the page formatting, which Is not really what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in an editable format. In Windows (a now obsolete OS) Solid Converter PDF does a good job of doing that, but I have not been able to run under Wine (I'm using TheBat! version 3.99 - an email client for win - to write this with - WineHQ informer me that version 4 won't run, but v. 3.x will). Other commercial pdf editors/creators include Foxit but I was hoping an opensource app was available (Ghostscript will extract to text but as I mentioned, that's not what I have in mind). In any case, than you for your response. Douglas Hinds Email: tgoat...@gmail.com Mobile mail: 7752230...@tmomail.com C: 775-223-0839 Sent from myTouch 4G - Reply message - From: Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] PDF Conversion Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 10:51 Douglas Hinds wrote: OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion
Den 2010-12-10 21:13:38 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com: Todd Goatley suggested: Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO. Thank you for your response, but: Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program There is a Linux version of Adobe Reader, I've used it for years. For Adobe Acrobat however, there is no Linux version as far as I know, but that was not what was suggested. Best regards Johnny Rosenberg , and Saving to a text file (equivalent to extracting the text) means that I lose both the graphics and the rest of the page formatting, which Is not really what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in an editable format. In Windows (a now obsolete OS) Solid Converter PDF does a good job of doing that, but I have not been able to run under Wine (I'm using TheBat! version 3.99 - an email client for win - to write this with - WineHQ informer me that version 4 won't run, but v. 3.x will). Other commercial pdf editors/creators include Foxit but I was hoping an opensource app was available (Ghostscript will extract to text but as I mentioned, that's not what I have in mind). In any case, than you for your response. Douglas Hinds Email: tgoat...@gmail.com Mobile mail: 7752230...@tmomail.com C: 775-223-0839 Sent from myTouch 4G - Reply message - From: Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] PDF Conversion Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 10:51 Douglas Hinds wrote: OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion
It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not adequate. OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and each and every line is included in it's own text box so the documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing. The letterhead didn't appear, either. And we are describing a pdf document created in writer and exported to pdf from there. What type of editing do you want to do? I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable form. Where does OOo fail to do what you want? It doesn't do the above. OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means it's a graphics rather than a document file. Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is the reason for my post today to users at oo.org. Any ideas? Douglas Hinds - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
On Fri Dec 10 2010 12:13:38 GMT-0800 (PST) Douglas Hinds wrote: Todd Goatley suggested: Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO. Thank you for your response, but: Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program, and There are versions of Adobe Reader for Linux as well. Available from the Ubuntu repositories. Saving to a text file (equivalent to extracting the text) means that I lose both the graphics and the rest of the page formatting, which Is not really what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in an editable format. Have you tried looking at the Ubuntu repositories? There is one there called PDF Editor . It is listed under the Graphics programs but it seems to work. It does not dot save to the ODF format so any editing will have to be done within PDF Editor. HTH Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
At 14:47 10/12/2010 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and each and every line is included in it's own text box so the documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing. It may be worth saying that this is precisely what you should expect. There is no text flow in a PDF document: each line is a separate line, with no information in the file to indicate whether the lines are separate paragraphs or parts of a single paragraph. Software has at best to guess where the paragraph breaks are, and cannot always get it right. And we are describing a pdf document created in writer and exported to pdf from there. Well, there is your answer: go back to the .odt file that you or your correspondent saved from Writer and kept for exactly this scenario - the need for further editing. Expecting to do this from a PDF version is a bit like scanning a hard copy and expecting to get a fully formed word processor document from it. But good luck in your endeavours nevertheless! I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion
Den 2010-12-10 21:47:08 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com: It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not adequate. OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and each and every line is included in it's own text box so the documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing. The letterhead didn't appear, either. And we are describing a pdf document created in writer and exported to pdf from there. What type of editing do you want to do? I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable form. Where does OOo fail to do what you want? It doesn't do the above. OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means it's a graphics rather than a document file. Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is the reason for my post today to users at oo.org. Any ideas? Douglas Hinds Well, there are a few PDF editors out there, most of them are crap, but you have to find out for yourself what suits your need best. Someone has already mentioned PDF Editor. You can also edit PDF files in Scribus I think, and maybe even Incscape. There are also commercial software, one of them is PDF Studio, which I installed on my system. You can use it without paying anything for a short period of time and after that you need to purchase or use a somewhat crippled version… But not everything is free in life, not even for Linux users some times… -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re[4]: [users] PDF Conversion
What type of editing do you want to do? I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable form. Where does OOo fail to do what you want? It doesn't do the above. OO writer opens pdf files in Draw - that means it's a graphics rather than a document file. Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is the reason for my post today to users at oo.org. Any ideas? Douglas Hinds Well, there are a few PDF editors out there, most of them are crap, but you have to find out for yourself what suits your need best. I work with development issues and the pdf files I have to deal with describe governmental programs that provide support for certain types of projects. Each program has it's own Prerequisites, including Formats that must be used. So I need underline certain passages and sometimes make them bold. And I need to cite the relevant articles. These are public documents but the text within a pdf file can't be manipulated in that way. Solid Converter PDF is a commercial Win application that does a pretty good job at converting pdf files to rtf or word docs (it will generally keep the flow and graphics intact, providing a number of options through a wizard, which seem to handle most cases). Someone has already mentioned PDF Editor. I'll try it. I installed PDF Chain (a GUI for PDFTK), which doesn't seem to fit my needs (as described above). You can also edit PDF files in Scribus I think, and maybe even Incscape. More than editing, I need the capacity to convert pdf files to a format 00 can handle as a document. There are also commercial software, one of them is PDF Studio, which I installed on my system. You can use it without paying anything for a short period of time and after that you need to purchase or use a somewhat crippled version… I'll check that out too. But not everything is free in life, not even for Linux users some times… OO and free unix-like OSs represent a very different approach to IT, with opencode and mutual support being principles that users and developers adhere to. Evolutionary Biologist Lynn Margulis claims that the principle force driving the most significant evolutionary leaps is NOT Natural Selection (as Darwin believed) but rather the integration of previously separate organisms (which allowed Prokaryotes to become Eukayotes - including homo sapiens). Culturally, Collaboration is preferable to Competition but I'm not a purist - we have to deal with things that are available and I use some commercial software (i.e. The Bat!, which as I mentioned earlier, is running pretty well under Wine). Thanks to all here who mentioned possible options, which I will take a look at tomorrow. Douglas Hinds - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] pdf index
First of all, I have only a very basic understanding of MS Word or OO Writer. I have received a Word document that I need to convert to pdf. The conversion works fine except that there is an index in the pdf file. What is it in the .doc file that results in the index? I've converted other .doc files to pdf and didn't get an index. How can I get rid of that useless index? -- Unjust laws exist ... Men, generally, under such a government as this, think that they ought to wait until they have persuaded the majority to alter them. They think that, if they should resist , the remedy would be worse than the evil. But it is the fault of the government itself that the remedy is worse than the evil. It makes it worse. -- Henry David Thoreau Rick Pasottor...@niof.nethttp://www.niof.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] pdf index
On Thu Sep 30 2010 12:50:46 GMT-0700 (PDT) Rick Pasotto wrote: First of all, I have only a very basic understanding of MS Word or OO Writer. I have received a Word document that I need to convert to pdf. The conversion works fine except that there is an index in the pdf file. What is it in the .doc file that results in the index? I've converted other .doc files to pdf and didn't get an index. How can I get rid of that useless index? Without seen the document it is hard to say. If it is in the PDF then it has to come from somewhere. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF files
Il 17/08/2010 19:48, Erik Remmelzwaal ha scritto: Originele bericht Onderwerp: [users] PDF files Van: George Waregeow...@hotmail.com Aan: users@openoffice.org Datum: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:29:08 +0100 Hi Is there any product that would enable me to convert PDF files to Open Office? It appears this is possible when using Word but is this possible with Open Office? Thanks for you help George Ware check the extensions (Tools-Extensions...). At least I know there is one that let you fill in PDF forms, so something is converted from PDF to OOo.There might be more extensions that work on PDF. Some more information: (Sun) PDF Import Extension 1.0.1 (now by Oracle, in Go-OO you already get the 1.0.2 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport Here the most popular extensions (the first ones are popular because are frequently updated from the OOo core delivered extensions, so go at least to the second list page...) http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/most_popular And finally the Extensions Home page in which you could make some searches http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project Have a nice day, Carlo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF files
Please visit : http://www.verypdf.com/ for detail George Wu -- From: Erik Remmelzwaal jhf.remmelzw...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:48 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] PDF files Originele bericht Onderwerp: [users] PDF files Van: George Ware geow...@hotmail.com Aan: users@openoffice.org Datum: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:29:08 +0100 Hi Is there any product that would enable me to convert PDF files to Open Office? It appears this is possible when using Word but is this possible with Open Office? Thanks for you help George Ware check the extensions (Tools-Extensions...). At least I know there is one that let you fill in PDF forms, so something is converted from PDF to OOo.There might be more extensions that work on PDF. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF files
Originele bericht Onderwerp: [users] PDF files Van: George Ware geow...@hotmail.com Aan: users@openoffice.org Datum: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:29:08 +0100 Hi Is there any product that would enable me to convert PDF files to Open Office? It appears this is possible when using Word but is this possible with Open Office? Thanks for you help George Ware check the extensions (Tools-Extensions...). At least I know there is one that let you fill in PDF forms, so something is converted from PDF to OOo.There might be more extensions that work on PDF. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF files
Hi Is there any product that would enable me to convert PDF files to Open Office? It appears this is possible when using Word but is this possible with Open Office? Thanks for you help George Ware
Re: [users] PDF Export 3.2.1 - no cross-references, no hyperlinks within document
Hi John, I suppose you are using OOo Novell edition in your OpenSuSE 11.3 and *not* the vanilla one (Sun/Oracle edition downloaded and installed directly from OpenOffice.org site). As you could read in this bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615812 and in my comment #4 Pdf Export has some trouble, some link trouble. I think your problem is due to the same cause behind the bug i just linked here. If you wants to add some information to the developer / packager, you could: just register before. We (OpenSuSE users) all invite you to do so! Novell and Sun/Oracle releases start from slightly different milestones/build as you could see here and in th above bug: - Novell OOo 3.2.1.4 (OOO320m19 (Build:9505)) - vanilla OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build:9502)) these milestones / builds could also be slightly stable... In the while the bug is corrected you could also install (I suppose you could install both versions) the linux vanilla one (32 or 64 bit) and use it: you'll see that pdf export become corrected. I hope that help. Carlo Il 27/07/2010 03:41, John Murphy ha scritto: Hi, Using 3.2.1 on opensuse 11.3 / KDE 4.4.95 Cross-reference and hyperlinks within the same document work as they should with the odt file, but when the file is exported to PDF both vanish. It seems hyperlinks to external sites (such as websites) work fine when exported. The PDF export works fine in windows XP (at least for the couple of files I tried). Please help, I have to use cross-references and hyperlinks quite a lot right now, and my only solution is to move the file to windows before exporting it. Thanks, johnM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Export 3.2.1 - no cross-references, no hyperlinks within document
John (murph...@bigpond.net.au) is not subscribed and probably did not see your response, which looks very helpful. Carlo Strata wrote: Hi John, I suppose you are using OOo Novell edition in your OpenSuSE 11.3 and *not* the vanilla one (Sun/Oracle edition downloaded and installed directly from OpenOffice.org site). As you could read in this bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615812 and in my comment #4 Pdf Export has some trouble, some link trouble. I think your problem is due to the same cause behind the bug i just linked here. If you wants to add some information to the developer / packager, you could: just register before. We (OpenSuSE users) all invite you to do so! Novell and Sun/Oracle releases start from slightly different milestones/build as you could see here and in th above bug: - Novell OOo 3.2.1.4 (OOO320m19 (Build:9505)) - vanilla OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build:9502)) these milestones / builds could also be slightly stable... In the while the bug is corrected you could also install (I suppose you could install both versions) the linux vanilla one (32 or 64 bit) and use it: you'll see that pdf export become corrected. I hope that help. Carlo Il 27/07/2010 03:41, John Murphy ha scritto: Hi, Using 3.2.1 on opensuse 11.3 / KDE 4.4.95 Cross-reference and hyperlinks within the same document work as they should with the odt file, but when the file is exported to PDF both vanish. It seems hyperlinks to external sites (such as websites) work fine when exported. The PDF export works fine in windows XP (at least for the couple of files I tried). Please help, I have to use cross-references and hyperlinks quite a lot right now, and my only solution is to move the file to windows before exporting it. Thanks, johnM John (murph...@bigpond.net.au) is not subscribed and probably did not see your response. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Export 3.2.1 - no cross-references, no hyperlinks within document
Thank you Barbara!!! I just add John in carbon copy to this mail. Carlo Il 28/07/2010 18:36, Barbara Duprey ha scritto: John (murph...@bigpond.net.au) is not subscribed and probably did not see your response, which looks very helpful. Carlo Strata wrote: Hi John, I suppose you are using OOo Novell edition in your OpenSuSE 11.3 and *not* the vanilla one (Sun/Oracle edition downloaded and installed directly from OpenOffice.org site). As you could read in this bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615812 and in my comment #4 Pdf Export has some trouble, some link trouble. I think your problem is due to the same cause behind the bug i just linked here. If you wants to add some information to the developer / packager, you could: just register before. We (OpenSuSE users) all invite you to do so! Novell and Sun/Oracle releases start from slightly different milestones/build as you could see here and in th above bug: - Novell OOo 3.2.1.4 (OOO320m19 (Build:9505)) - vanilla OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build:9502)) these milestones / builds could also be slightly stable... In the while the bug is corrected you could also install (I suppose you could install both versions) the linux vanilla one (32 or 64 bit) and use it: you'll see that pdf export become corrected. I hope that help. Carlo Il 27/07/2010 03:41, John Murphy ha scritto: Hi, Using 3.2.1 on opensuse 11.3 / KDE 4.4.95 Cross-reference and hyperlinks within the same document work as they should with the odt file, but when the file is exported to PDF both vanish. It seems hyperlinks to external sites (such as websites) work fine when exported. The PDF export works fine in windows XP (at least for the couple of files I tried). Please help, I have to use cross-references and hyperlinks quite a lot right now, and my only solution is to move the file to windows before exporting it. Thanks, johnM John (murph...@bigpond.net.au) is not subscribed and probably did not see your response. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF Export 3.2.1 - no cross-references, no hyperlinks within document
Hi, Using 3.2.1 on opensuse 11.3 / KDE 4.4.95 Cross-reference and hyperlinks within the same document work as they should with the odt file, but when the file is exported to PDF both vanish. It seems hyperlinks to external sites (such as websites) work fine when exported. The PDF export works fine in windows XP (at least for the couple of files I tried). Please help, I have to use cross-references and hyperlinks quite a lot right now, and my only solution is to move the file to windows before exporting it. Thanks, johnM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF not shown up
When I tried to save a document the PDF option did not show up. I have saved PDF files before. Support solar power in the developing world. http://www.everyclick.com/solaraid http://www.solar-aid.org/
Re: [users] PDF not shown up
You do not use the Save or Save As options for creating PDF files. There should be a button beside your print button that looks like the PDF symbol. Otherwise you can use File - Export as PDF... John On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Abdul Hai ahai11lon...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: When I tried to save a document the PDF option did not show up. I have saved PDF files before. Support solar power in the developing world. http://www.everyclick.com/solaraid http://www.solar-aid.org/ -- Did you know that it costs forty thousand dollars a year to house each prisoner?...I don't think we should give free room and board to criminals. I think they should have to run twelve hours a day on a treadmill and generate electricity. And if they don't want to run, they can rest in the chair that's hooked up to the generator. -George Carlin
Re: [users] PDF not shown up
On May 28, 2010, at 22:13 , John Kennedy wrote: You do not use the Save or Save As options for creating PDF files. There should be a button beside your print button that looks like the PDF symbol. Otherwise you can use File - Export as PDF... John ...and on the Mac, at least, you can click on print (Cmd-P) and choose PDF. //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF not shown up
Abdul Hai wrote: When I tried to save a document the PDF option did not show up. I have saved PDF files before. PDF formats are not available via the Save As option -- you need one of the others, like Export as PDF. Or if you have a pseudo-printer like PDF Creator or Primo PDF (on Windows -- there are native ones in most Linux distros, I think), you can create a PDF file by printing to that. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF Import capability (was RE: Scribus and OpenOffiece.org )
Lars Nooden [mailto:larsnoo...@openoffice.org] suggested: On 4/7/10 1:25 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote: ...In either case, converting the PDF to an editable format seems to me to be quite a legitimate requirement. Only until the format is understood, after that, no. The purpose of PDF is for display, not editing. If you want to edit the document, keep the original. If you don't have it, contact the author and request a copy. Formats are tools and like with any tool set there is the matter of choosing the right tool for the job. The nature of a PDF is that it probably does not contain anything that you can still edit. In many cases, the even the glyphs are converted to outlines so even the text is gone. If you don't have the file that was used to create the PDF, then it is necessary to face the fact that the original is gone. OOo does a great job of exporting to PDF, but you have to keep the original around if you wish to continue editing. Lars, My crystal ball says that you've never worked for a company that has bought/merged another company. It's common for companies to have repositories of released documents - as PDF or however they are distributed to customers and the public. It's also common to have the original source documents in the possession of the techwriters who created them. They might be lovingly backed up to portable media, or even to company servers, and the locations of the source files (and their backups) are known to the writer and to his/her manager[s]. Then the smaller company gets bought. Certain people are offered positions with the new-owner company... others are let go, offices are closed or moved, say from Australia to the USA. Months later (perhaps longer), after the amalgamation and streamlining, it's time to make a new release of some of the products of the former smaller company. The source code and the hardware designs are all available to the engineers. The assigned techwriter has... wait for it... wait for it... nothing but a mess of PDFs. Nobody can find the source docs. The former writers are long gone, perhaps living in the streets and unreachable. The former manager is now clawing his way up some other corporate employer hierarchy or has taken his severance package to start an emu ranch, and is equally unavailable... even if he could remember where to look for his former minions' backup files on servers that have been de-commissioned. PDF it is then. Dozens of them. No source text. No source drawings or screen-caps or photos. Everybody who's a middle-to-senior exec knows that if you've got the docs (the PDFs in the released-product repository), you've got the docs, and some grunt-labor techwriter will handle the details. Or they'll just rewrite 'em from scratch. It's not hard or time-consuming to write multi-hundred-page reference and toolkit manuals if you've got the product, is it? Piece of cake! Been there. Done that. By the third time, I was being proactive and begging to have the source files secured as an early step in the amalgamation - but it's still hard to train executives in some other country when they are dealing with big legal and fiscal issues of acquiring an entire company from a third country. Also, when a multi-division company is being acquired by another multi-division company, it is not always clear until well into the process which of the acquired divisions will be merged into which of the acquiring company's divisions... or just sold off. All of that to say, you have to know where the source files are, what they were called, how they were organized, and you have to have a way to contact the original authors, sometimes beyond the grave. Quite often, not possible. It's not like in government or some rarified areas of academia. By the way, aren't there signs - in recent versions of Acrobat Pro and other offerings - that Adobe is beginning to tackle the routine editing of PDFs? Cheers, - Kevin (in Canada, eh?) The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Import capability (was RE: Scribus and OpenOffiece.org )
On 4/7/10 5:30 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote: My crystal ball ... Save the speculation for the stock market and the sob story for someone who cares. Having a metric buttload of legacy documents and a great wish to be able to recover them in editable form, won't make them editable. Even needing the documents to be editable won't make them so unless they already are in a source format, like ODF. PDF it is then. Dozens of them. No source text. No source drawings or screen-caps or photos. If you have to change them, then you are looking at rekeying. That's similar as when businesses started to scan in their old paper records. By the way, aren't there signs - in recent versions of ... There are signs that OpenOffice.org is being adopted more in the public sector to fulfill the requirements to use ODF. As ODF includes more complete SVG support, then it will be easier to work with Scribus and other DTP tools. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
RE: [users] PDF Import capability (was RE: Scribus and OpenOffiece.org )
Lars Nooden [mailto:larsnoo...@openoffice.org] On 4/7/10 5:30 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote: My crystal ball ... Save the speculation for the stock market and the sob story for someone who cares. Hee hee. :-) Having a metric buttload of legacy documents and a great wish to be able to recover them in editable form, won't make them editable. Even needing the documents to be editable won't make them so unless they already are in a source format, like ODF. I think my point, later on, was that more-recent flavors from Adobe might be turning that around. I know all about what PDF is _supposed_ to be for. I've been making that same argument to ignorant folk (often with budgetary and decision-making power) for years. I used to refer them to the Adobe web site, where Adobe said a lot of the same thing. But... I think even Adobe is beginning to bow to the inevitable. PDF it is then. Dozens of them. No source text. No source drawings or screen-caps or photos. If you have to change them, then you are looking at rekeying. That's similar as when businesses started to scan in their old paper records. By the way, aren't there signs - in recent versions of ... There are signs that OpenOffice.org is being adopted more in the public sector to fulfill the requirements to use ODF. As ODF includes more complete SVG support, then it will be easier to work with Scribus and other DTP tools. Spoken like a true politician. My primary reason for choosing OOo is its non-MS-ness. Next is that the price is right. I've owned MS-Office before, personally, at roughly a thousand bucks (circa 1997) - won't do that again. Next is that OOo is cross-platform - though that's become less strictly important as I use my MacBook Pro more and my Linux boxes less-and-less. After that, there are a few things that Word 2003 does nasty that OOo doesn't break as badly. However, for some things that OOo breaks, or makes difficult for me, I now have InDesign at work. That's WAY overkill for the small handful of small docs that I'll be using it to produce, but hey... they were willing to buy it for me. The majority of my big work is now WebHelp, created in MadCap Flare. That leaves OOo for some lengthy reference guides and toolkit docs that I would formerly have done in FrameMaker. I could probably use OOo for a wider selection of my stuff (except the WebHelp), but there's no pressing incentive. At least I've been able to minimize any use of Word. That counts for a lot in my book. :-) The next time we get a clump of PDFs with no source, I'll be trying every tool at my disposal to avoid having to re-type 'em. Haven't seen a way to fit Scribus into my workflow. Not yet, anyway. - KThe information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF Export Default Folder
I've recently updated from OpenOffice 2.2.0 (rather old, I know) to the latest 3.2.0, running under Windows Vista. Previously, when exporting a document to PDF with version 2.2, the default folder for the PDF was the one containing the document, which is usually what I want. Now, with version 3.2, the default folder seems to be the last folder I exported to, meaning that I have to change the folder almost every time (which currently I usually forget to do, so have to track down the exported PDF after it's been saved in the wrong folder!) This is using either the Export Directly as PDF button on the toolbar or File menu Export as PDF... Is this the way the new version is supposed to work? The old behaviour seems more sensible to me. I've looked through the options and couldn't find a way to change the default export folder to always be that of the current document, but I may have missed something. Thanks, Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF export: no hyperlinks in PDF/A?
Hi. I have a document containing a hyperlink. I export it with the option PDF/A-1a enabled. When I open the resulting PDF in Adobe and rover the mouse cursor over the hyperlink, it shows a floating tag saying URI: http://...;, but clicking on it does not open the hyperlink. Now, if I export the PDF from OO with the option PDF/A _disabled_ (and option Tagged PDF enabled), I am able to click and open hyperlinks in Adobe. I'm trying to narrow down the problem. Can you please confirm whether PDF/A allows hyperlinks? Can you reproduce the problem, please? Also, I noticed that KPDF viewer is able to open the hyperlinks that Adobe can't (i.e., PDFs exported in PDF/A mode), suggesting that Adobe Read is the problem, not OO nor PDF/A. I'm wondering if this is a compatibility issue, though; could the PDF/A specification leave some latitude in the way hyperlinks are implemented? I'm using OO 3.1.0 and Adobe Reader 9 on Red Hat Linux. Thanks, Felipe. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Export Problem
Pu Taang Zomi wrote: This is a problem I encountered today. 1. I wrote a document in OpenOffice.org Writer 3.0.1. I saved it as Man.odt. When I tried export as PDF, I got the following: == Confirm Save As Man.odt already exists. You saved it as a PDF with an ODT extension. If you force open it in adobe I believe you will see your document. When you export as a pdf, delete the .odt extension. You should have Automatic File Extension checked as well. -- Gene Y. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] PDF Export Problem
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:51 -0500 Pu Taang Zomi putaangz...@gmail.com wrote: This is a problem I encountered today. 1. I wrote a document in OpenOffice.org Writer 3.0.1. I saved it as Man.odt. When I tried export as PDF, I got the following: I clicked OK, and when I looked at the document on my hard disk, it was not in PDF, but in ODT. == 2. I launched a new document and wrote the same in ODT again, but I did not save it. It was titled Untitled 1. I tried to export as PDF, and saved as Man.pdf. I found out that the document was in PDF, not in ODT. == There must be something I did wrong. How can I export a saved ODT document as PDF again? I just tried it on my system - OOo 3.0.1 Unbuntu Linux- and export to PDF works fine. In the second case, did it save as a pdf or did it really save as an odt file with .pdf on the end instead of odt? Did you use the Export to PDF button on the toolbar or did you go to File- Export as PDF or even File- Export then select PDF format. So many options to do the one thing! It's possible that trying different methods would yield different results. For example using the toolbar button just asks for a filename and location, but going File-Export to PDF lets you sepcify a whole lot of other options... I usually just click on the button so I was surprised to find the other method takes a different result -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF Export Problem
This is a problem I encountered today. 1. I wrote a document in OpenOffice.org Writer 3.0.1. I saved it as Man.odt. When I tried export as PDF, I got the following: == Confirm Save As Man.odt already exists. Do you want to replace it? [Yes] [No] == I clicked Yes, and got the following: == OpenOffice.org 3.0 Error saving the document Man: Write Error. The file could not be written. [OK] == I clicked OK, and when I looked at the document on my hard disk, it was not in PDF, but in ODT. == 2. I launched a new document and wrote the same in ODT again, but I did not save it. It was titled Untitled 1. I tried to export as PDF, and saved as Man.pdf. I found out that the document was in PDF, not in ODT. == This is the first time that I could not export a saved titled document in ODT as PDF. I was successful in exporting only an Untitled document as PDF. There must be something I did wrong. How can I export a saved ODT document as PDF again?
Re: [users] PDF export in 3.0
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:17:09 -0800 Russ Fineman russbuc...@nwi.net dijo: On Sunday 14 December 2008 19:01:51 John Jason Jordan wrote: Somewhere there has to be a bug report list or some documentation. Can someone point me to it? There are apparently some problems with Okular and printing PDF files. I am on openSUSE11.0 and working on a problem with Okular, if I open a pdf with Okular, the print options (margins, paper size etc are wrong. When I go to advanced options, and it prints black only). If I do a pdftops conversion then open the ps file with Okular, it prints fine, options etc are all correct. It appears to be a QT problem. I have reported it to QT . Also see kde bug 177360. Okular's print dialog boxes are a mess. I just gave up on it completely. I love Okular, but I won't use it for anything I am going to have to print until there is a major upgrade to address the print problems. I also have Evince and Adobe Reader 8.1. Evince printed the troublesome file perfectly. Adobe Reader printed random characters scattered on the page like throwing a pinch of black pepper onto a sheet of paper. But Adobe Reader did display the file perfectly. That is weird. Eventually I found that Adobe Reader would print the file correctly if I unchecked Save Printer Memory. At this time I think the problem lies in upgrades to CUPS that occurred when I upgraded Hardy to Intrepid. In other words, the problem does not appear to be in OOo. So I withdraw my question to the list. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF export in 3.0
John Jason Jordan wrote: I could swear I have seen messages on this e-list regarding exporting to PDF from OOo 3.0. Of course, I wasn't using 3.0 until just today, so I didn't save anything about 3.0. I can search in the archives, but the search function doesn't seem to allow sorting by date. So I get pages and pages of posts in random date order back to 2002. I am using 3.0 on Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64, installed from the download file. I have used OOo since 0.9 and I have never had a problem with a PDF exported from OOo. However, today I exported a simple text file to PDF and Adobe Reader 8.1 prints garbage. Okular prints it, but its print dialog box is messed up - lots of bugs. Evince, the least fully featured PDF reader I have, prints it just fine. And all three of them display it fine on screen. It's just that Adobe Reader prints stray garbled characters randomly on the page and that's all. I am printing to a Laserjet 4M+, which has both PCL5 and genuine Adobe PostScript Level 2. The output from Adobe Reader is messed up regardless of which driver I use, although the mess is slightly different. Somewhere there has to be a bug report list or some documentation. Can someone point me to it? Here is a thought. Have you looked into the printer? How about the file itself? I run into trouble with the same printer using XP/pro. File reads fine on the screen, but it prints out 1/4 normal size on the paper. There were two problems that crept up. One: Some stray hidden characters got into the file at the beginning and caused the trouble. All I had to do was cut/paste the whole file EXCEPT the first few words to a new document. The other cause was something did something to the Laser 4M+'s driver. If the cut/paste did not work, then reinstall the driver did. If all else failed, I deleted the user install info files and did a clean install. Once and a while I get something changed in the user's system setup file for OOo and the only way I get it fixed is to do a clean install with no user preference file on the system. I know you use Linux, but this is what happened to me. I know use Vista and my Laser 4M+ is in need of repair, so I have not had to deal with it for a while. This error was a problem with both OOo 2.x and 3.x. So it may be in your version of OOo coding as well. I hope this gives you a thought on what may be wrong. [ Also, for you Vista haters, like me, older Acrobat printers do not work as well as doPDF does. Acrobat gave me trouble with images and errors. doPDF works better and faster than Adobe's product. I had Acrobat 6 and then 7.] Tim L. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1851 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 8:53 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF export in 3.0
On Sunday 14 December 2008 19:01:51 John Jason Jordan wrote: I could swear I have seen messages on this e-list regarding exporting to PDF from OOo 3.0. Of course, I wasn't using 3.0 until just today, so I didn't save anything about 3.0. I can search in the archives, but the search function doesn't seem to allow sorting by date. So I get pages and pages of posts in random date order back to 2002. I am using 3.0 on Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64, installed from the download file. I have used OOo since 0.9 and I have never had a problem with a PDF exported from OOo. However, today I exported a simple text file to PDF and Adobe Reader 8.1 prints garbage. Okular prints it, but its print dialog box is messed up - lots of bugs. Evince, the least fully featured PDF reader I have, prints it just fine. And all three of them display it fine on screen. It's just that Adobe Reader prints stray garbled characters randomly on the page and that's all. I am printing to a Laserjet 4M+, which has both PCL5 and genuine Adobe PostScript Level 2. The output from Adobe Reader is messed up regardless of which driver I use, although the mess is slightly different. Somewhere there has to be a bug report list or some documentation. Can someone point me to it? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org There are apparently some problems with Okular and printing PDF files. I am on openSUSE11.0 and working on a problem with Okular, if I open a pdf with Okular, the print options (margins, paper size etc are wrong. When I go to advanced options, and it prints black only). If I do a pdftops conversion then open the ps file with Okular, it prints fine, options etc are all correct. It appears to be a QT problem. I have reported it to QT . Also see kde bug 177360. -- Russ Registered Linux User #441463 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF export in 3.0
I could swear I have seen messages on this e-list regarding exporting to PDF from OOo 3.0. Of course, I wasn't using 3.0 until just today, so I didn't save anything about 3.0. I can search in the archives, but the search function doesn't seem to allow sorting by date. So I get pages and pages of posts in random date order back to 2002. I am using 3.0 on Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64, installed from the download file. I have used OOo since 0.9 and I have never had a problem with a PDF exported from OOo. However, today I exported a simple text file to PDF and Adobe Reader 8.1 prints garbage. Okular prints it, but its print dialog box is messed up - lots of bugs. Evince, the least fully featured PDF reader I have, prints it just fine. And all three of them display it fine on screen. It's just that Adobe Reader prints stray garbled characters randomly on the page and that's all. I am printing to a Laserjet 4M+, which has both PCL5 and genuine Adobe PostScript Level 2. The output from Adobe Reader is messed up regardless of which driver I use, although the mess is slightly different. Somewhere there has to be a bug report list or some documentation. Can someone point me to it? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF Backward Compatibility
Hi everyone, I'm trying to take a current-generation PDF document (a form, actually) and resave or recreate it so that it becomes fully Acrobat 3 (PDF 1.2) compatible. I do NOT need to preserve the form fields, only the visible portions of the document. If anyone has an idea about how to do this or whom to ask, I'd be most grateful! I've looked at the Sun extension and at PDF Creator, and I don't really see how to accomplish this using those tools. I have a licensed copy of Acrobat 7 Pro, don't see how to do it there, either. Sigh ... Thank you kindly, Elchanan
Re: [users] PDF Import for Linux OOo v3.
Installed and ran with no problems when I tested for a magazine article that I wrote. I use Fedora 9 64-bit... James Knott wrote: I've been trying to install the PDF Import extension for Linux. First off, the automatic install doesn't work on either 32 or 64 bit versions of OpenSUSE 11.0. However, on the 64 bit system, I was able to download the extension and then install it. On the 32 bit system, after accepting the licence, I get an error message: loading component library failed file:///home/jknott/.ooo3/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/9Be 5QJ_/pdfimport.oxt/pdfimport.uno.so Any ideas about what's causing this or how to get around it? tnx jk -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt My Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php See Also: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] PDF Import for Linux OOo v3.
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Installed and ran with no problems when I tested for a magazine article that I wrote. I use Fedora 9 64-bit... Any luck on a 32 bit system? That's where I'm having the problem. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] PDF Import for Linux OOo v3.
I've been trying to install the PDF Import extension for Linux. First off, the automatic install doesn't work on either 32 or 64 bit versions of OpenSUSE 11.0. However, on the 64 bit system, I was able to download the extension and then install it. On the 32 bit system, after accepting the licence, I get an error message: loading component library failed file:///home/jknott/.ooo3/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/9Be 5QJ_/pdfimport.oxt/pdfimport.uno.so Any ideas about what's causing this or how to get around it? tnx jk -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:34:31 -0700 norseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Joe Grech wrote: What advantages are there if any in saving a file in pdf for printing? Tks In addition to Steve's response, there is one additional advantage - also related to printing. Many have heard of PostScript, a page description language, and some have also heard of Page Composition Language (PCL). Adobe owns PostScript, but publishes the spec and allows others to use it. Some printers come with PostScript built in, but if the printer manufacturer wants genuine Adobe PostScript they must pay a royalty to Adobe. To get around this Hewlett Packard developed PCL as an alternative. Hewlett-Packard owns PCL and requires other printer manufacturers to pay them royalties if they want to include in on their printers. To get around the royalty problem there are emulation packages available that printer manufacturers can license from third parties. For example, if a printer comes with PostScript emulation instead of genuine Adobe PostScript, chances are that the PostScript emulation was licensed from Xionics. Ditto for PCL - there are third party vendors who will license a PCL clone to a manufacturer to get around Hewlett-Packard's ownership of PCL. Hewlett-Packard doesn't seem to be concerned with the clone vendors, but Adobe does. Adobe makes quite a bit of money licensing genuine Adobe PostScript to printer manufacturers. In the past Adobe could always rely on the fact that the vendors of PostScript clones didn't do a perfect job. Users would get occasional print errors. But nowadays the PostScript clones are darn near perfect. Adobe sees its revenue from licensing PostScript to printer vendors diminishing. To get around this Adobe has come up with a brand new idea - the Adobe PDF print engine. I own a Xerox Phaser 7400DN which comes with genuine Adobe PostScript level 3, a PCL clone, and genuine Adobe PDF print engine. If I send a PDF file to this printer it images almost instantly. Why did Adobe come up with the Adobe PDF print engine? Because they have lost control of the PostScript market to the clone vendors. So far no one has cloned the Adobe PDF print engine, so Adobe can push it to vendors of high end laser printers. Adobe claims it is the wave of the future. For now I can say that it is really cool. I print a lot of textbooks from PDF files, and printing to the Phaser 7400DN is a dream. So the bottom line to all I have said is that printing from PDF files is a definite advantage if you are printing to a high end printer. And in the future more and more printers will come with the Adobe PDF print engine, so it will become even more advantageous. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] pdf
What advantages are there if any in saving a file in pdf for printing? Tks _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE
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Joe Grech wrote:
What advantages are there if any in saving a file in pdf for printing? Tks
It will display and print exactly as shown, regardless of the OS.
This is most useful if you are sending the document elsewhere to be
viewed/printed
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Bill Drescher
william {at} TechServSys {dot} com
Re: [users] pdf
Joe Grech wrote: What advantages are there if any in saving a file in pdf for printing? Tks If printed from your own computer, none. However, if you're sending the file to someone else, then you can be certain of how it will look and you don't have to worry if the recipient has a word processor that can handle the file format you use. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: James Knott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 7:25 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] pdf Joe Grech wrote: What advantages are there if any in saving a file in pdf for printing? Tks If printed from your own computer, none. However, if you're sending the file to someone else, then you can be certain of how it will look and you don't have to worry if the recipient has a word processor that can handle the file format you use. _- I use PDF for 2 purposes: 1. Distribution, as James describes above. 2. Archiving. It's SO easy to archive all manner of content by turning it into PDF. Then I can store things as I wish, send them to others, etc. Best, Elchanan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joe Grech wrote: What advantages are there if any in saving a file in pdf for printing? Tks _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE === It pretty much eliminates accidental changes to the file. It makes it tough to willfully change the file. (Adobe ain't cheep) All most the entirety of the Internet users can print it. Sometimes the pdf file is smaller than the original file(s) used in making it. If the file is destined to another for printing, PDF is the choice. If the file is destined to the 'no change allowed' shelf, same. You get a file that can have lots of eye candy, can be fully text searchable and is very hard for all but the very few to mess with. Don't get me wrong - nothing made by mankind is perfect. But PDF is the best choice for it's niche. HTH Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] PDF Conversions
I have a pdf document that contains both graphics and text. I was wondering if there was anyway to convert this to odt format, so that I can edit it. Thank you for your help. -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed OpenSUSE 11.0 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.25.16-0.1-default Current Linux uptime: 2:13, days user hours minutes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 06:28, bill wrote: It will display and print exactly as shown, regardless of the OS. That isn't always the case. :( There are some subtle differences between operating systems, and output devices, when PDF is involved. xan jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:34:31 -0700 norseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Joe Grech wrote: What advantages are there if any in saving a file in pdf for printing? Tks In addition to Steve's response, there is one additional advantage - also related to printing. Many have heard of PostScript, a page description language, and some have also heard of Page Composition Language (PCL). Adobe owns PostScript, but publishes the spec and allows others to use it. Some printers come with PostScript built in, but if the printer manufacturer wants genuine Adobe PostScript they must pay a royalty to Adobe. To get around this Hewlett Packard developed PCL as an alternative. Hewlett-Packard owns PCL and requires other printer manufacturers to pay them royalties if they want to include in on their printers. To get around the royalty problem there are emulation packages available that printer manufacturers can license from third parties. For example, if a printer comes with PostScript emulation instead of genuine Adobe PostScript, chances are that the PostScript emulation was licensed from Xionics. Ditto for PCL - there are third party vendors who will license a PCL clone to a manufacturer to get around Hewlett-Packard's ownership of PCL. Hewlett-Packard doesn't seem to be concerned with the clone vendors, but Adobe does. Adobe makes quite a bit of money licensing genuine Adobe PostScript to printer manufacturers. In the past Adobe could always rely on the fact that the vendors of PostScript clones didn't do a perfect job. Users would get occasional print errors. But nowadays the PostScript clones are darn near perfect. Adobe sees its revenue from licensing PostScript to printer vendors diminishing. To get around this Adobe has come up with a brand new idea - the Adobe PDF print engine. I own a Xerox Phaser 7400DN which comes with genuine Adobe PostScript level 3, a PCL clone, and genuine Adobe PDF print engine. If I send a PDF file to this printer it images almost instantly. Why did Adobe come up with the Adobe PDF print engine? Because they have lost control of the PostScript market to the clone vendors. So far no one has cloned the Adobe PDF print engine, so Adobe can push it to vendors of high end laser printers. Adobe claims it is the wave of the future. For now I can say that it is really cool. I print a lot of textbooks from PDF files, and printing to the Phaser 7400DN is a dream. So the bottom line to all I have said is that printing from PDF files is a definite advantage if you are printing to a high end printer. And in the future more and more printers will come with the Adobe PDF print engine, so it will become even more advantageous. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] pdf export only in RGB colorspace!
NoOp-4 wrote: Actually cups-pdf can print to custom formats, you just need to use a ppd that allows this. For example; if you use the Ghostscript ghostpdf.ppd you can set PDF settings to Default, Screen, Ebook, Print, and Prepress. The colour model to Default, RGB, CMYK, or Grey. You can also set Color, Grey, and Monochrome Image Compression, PDF Compatibility, etc., etc. EUREKA! solved! modifying ppd file located in /etc/cups/ppd/ adding in proper sections, == *PageSize 17x24: /PageSize [482 680] /ImagingBBox null setpagedevice *End == *PageRegion 17x24: /PageSize [482 680] /ImagingBBox null setpagedevice *End == *ImageableArea 17x24: 0 0 482 680 == *PaperDimension 17x24: 482 680 == Now I am able to print, from OpenOffice, 17x24 cm format. - OpenOffice for Puppy Linux http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/programs:office_suite == puppy linux packages wiki http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/pdf-export-only-in-RGB-colorspace%21-tp19350700p19789080.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Pdf assasinates MacOSX
Hi, I rountinely make PDFs with Open Office 3.0 for Mac for distributing to my students. However it seems that as of OSX 10.5.5 the pdfs from open office crash quicklookd. Quicklook generates thumbnails for Finder and I cannot prevent this from happening. I've posted this on the MacOSX support forums, but I'm wondering if anyone has an idea of what is going on here. Here is an example document http://sites.google.com/a/barnett.id.au/interactive-workshop/Home/bugs/AttenuationScatterCorrectionPartialVolumeEffect.corrupt?attredirects=0 -- Robbie Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0431864709 Skype Name: retsil42
Re: [users] Pdf assasinates MacOSX
Robert Barnett wrote: Hi, I rountinely make PDFs with Open Office 3.0 for Mac for distributing to my students. However it seems that as of OSX 10.5.5 the pdfs from open office crash quicklookd. Quicklook generates thumbnails for Finder and I cannot prevent this from happening. I've posted this on the MacOSX support forums, but I'm wondering if anyone has an idea of what is going on here. Here is an example document http://sites.google.com/a/barnett.id.au/interactive-workshop/Home/bugs/AttenuationScatterCorrectionPartialVolumeEffect.corrupt?attredirects=0 That link doesn't work in Linux either. Are you sure it's OK? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] pdf export only in RGB colorspace!
NoOp-4 wrote: Actually cups-pdf can print to custom formats, you just need to use a ppd that allows this. For example; if you use the Ghostscript ghostpdf.ppd you can set PDF settings to Default, Screen, Ebook, Print, and Prepress. The colour model to Default, RGB, CMYK, or Grey. You can also set Color, Grey, and Monochrome Image Compression, PDF Compatibility, etc., etc. I'd be willing to bet that if you do a locate ghostscrip.ppd you'll probably get back something like: $ locate ghostpdf.ppd /usr/share/ghostscript/8.61/lib/ghostpdf.ppd Set up a separate cups-pdf printer using that ppd and you'll see what I mean. first of all, thanks for your golden suggestions I will check later the colorspace, now, meanwhile, I have settled another pdf printer as you suggested. Only one problem: my page size is 17 x 24 cm and this pagesize is not provided among printable formats. the most similar format is ISO B5 (17,6 x 25 cm) but if try to print in ISO B5 a 17 x 24 cm page, this page is not centered: in fact, right margin is bigger than left and bottom is bigger than top, so document is altered in its proportions. Can I set a 17 x 24 cm pagesize in a ppd file and how? - OpenOffice for Puppy Linux http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/programs:office_suite == puppy linux packages wiki http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/pdf-export-only-in-RGB-colorspace%21-tp19350700p19356418.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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NoOp-4 wrote: I've not tried this, but the ppd file is a text file. Copy ghostpdf.ppd someplace and open with a text editor. Have a look through it and you'll see the page sizes; modify accordingly and then save the file with a different name (perhaps myghostpdf.ppd). Now create a new pdf printer using myghostpdf.ppd and see if that works for you. You may also need to experiment with the OOo page settings as well. If ISO B5 isn't setting up properly it may be your OOo settings that are causing the problem. Yes, you say right, I have tried adding a line in ghostpdf.ppd /usr/share/ghostscript/8.60/lib/ghostpdf.ppd == *PageSize 17x24: /PageSize [482 680] /ImagingBBox null setpagedevice *End == *PageRegion 17x24: /PageSize [482 680] /ImagingBBox null setpagedevice *End == *ImageableArea 17x24: 0 0 482 680 == *PaperDimension 17x24: 482 680 == *note: width and hight are expressed in postscript points all times is required in file (more than one) but, I don't see 17x24 custom format after this addition, so I have further investigate and I think I must add new page value also in: gs_stadt.ps /usr/share/ghostscript/8.60/lib/gs_statd.ps but, this may be useless to have gray /100 black pdf colorspaces. I have not yet done the second step (modify gs_statd.ps adding my custom format). but printed via CUPS on a wrong page format only to send output to friend and verifying colorspace even I have settled gray in cups options, my friend tells to me that colorspace of pdf sent is RGB! so, to not annoy any time my friend, I'm looking for a free online preflight service or linux app. can you suggest to me? thanks meanwhile for tips! - OpenOffice for Puppy Linux http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/programs:office_suite == puppy linux packages wiki http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/pdf-export-only-in-RGB-colorspace%21-tp19350700p19363163.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] pdf export only in RGB colorspace!
Dear openofficers some time ago I have discovered a serious bug (or lacking) in export function from openoffice I have made a book ready to print with offset tecnique, once finished I have exported as pdf, but publisher has called to me to say that my pdf has RGB colorspace instead 100 black only. this is very important when you print in offset. RGB produces four plates instead 100 black /gray produces only one plate for printing (lesser expensive) I have also discovered other people having same problem *PDF output produces CMYK text and not just black* http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic ... ht=#295889 here there is a page with this issue you can vote to solve this problem: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=81097 I hope many many people vote for enhancement. in Windows, a partial solution is using pdf creator, but in Linux we don't have alternative. CUPS is unable to print special custom format whay do you think? - OpenOffice for Puppy Linux http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/programs:office_suite == puppy linux packages wiki http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/pdf-export-only-in-RGB-colorspace%21-tp19350700p19350700.html Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] PDF files
I need to open PDF files sent from my work. I tried the FileExport as PDF and nothing works. When I go to the Adobe website the page just freezes. Please guide me through how I can open PDF files using Open Office. I'm desperate! Thanks.
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I need to open PDF files sent from my work. I tried the FileExport as PDF and nothing works. When I go to the Adobe website the page just freezes. Please guide me through how I can open PDF files using Open Office. I'm desperate! Thanks. OpenOffice is not designed to open PDF files. It is designed to create PDF files. Your on the right track with Adobe website - however there are other PDF readers that can be used. Simply google PDF readers and select a free one that will work with your operating system. /paul -- For those in NZ that want cheaper petrol - have a look here http://www.thecheappetrolproject.co.nz/index.php
