[users] Re: PDF Conversion
In article aanlktinssvik7erg7kfkd1xkmbybsbfixtan7r7pv...@mail.gmail.com, hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com (Harold Fuchs) wrote: *From:* Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com *To:* users@openoffice.org *Date:* Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:49:18 + On 16 December 2010 10:41, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: Il 16/12/2010 11:08, Harold Fuchs ha scritto: On 16 December 2010 07:15, Marcello Romanimrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: snip PDF is not meant for editing. Period. snip So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ... No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that one can edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature. Why bother to write the Acrobat software if PDF is not *designed* to be edited? Under your assumption a pseudo printer would be all that was necessary. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org The purpose of producing a pdf is twofold: to generate a platform independent document; and to produce one that can be circulated but one that is not subject to editing by other hands, so that the receiver gets a document that can be relied on to be in the form that the originator intended. Niall Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: PDF Conversion
---Original Message--- From: R N D Martin Date: 12/19/2010 2:23:45 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] Re: PDF Conversion In article aanlktinssvik7erg7kfkd1xkmbybsbfixtan7r7pv...@mail.gmail.com, hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com (Harold Fuchs) wrote: *From:* Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com *To:* users@openoffice.org *Date:* Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:49:18 + On 16 December 2010 10:41, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: Il 16/12/2010 11:08, Harold Fuchs ha scritto: On 16 December 2010 07:15, Marcello Romanimrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: snip PDF is not meant for editing. Period. snip So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ... No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that one can edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature. Why bother to write the Acrobat software if PDF is not *designed* to be edited? Under your assumption a pseudo printer would be all that was necessary. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org The purpose of producing a pdf is twofold: to generate a platform independent document; and to produce one that can be circulated but one that is not subject to editing by other hands, so that the receiver gets a document that can be relied on to be in the form that the originator intended. Niall Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: PDF Conversion
On 12/12/10 07:08, NoOp wrote: On 12/11/2010 02:45 PM, Douglas Hinds wrote: NoOp mentioned: While doubling the size of the PDF, you can save as a 'hybrid' PDF. That way you can open the PDF directly in Writer and edit. That's definitely worth a try. But if I open a pdf file as such from oo write it will open it in oo draw which does not offer that format when I try to save it. I didn't say that the hybrid feature will work with existing PDFs. Please read what I wrote. If I a export a PDF as a hybrid file, and then open OOo and select File|Open|path to the hybrid PDF, the file opens in Writer. There is some information about the hybrid PDF format in the OpenOffice.org Help Tips and Tricks blog: http://blogs.sun.com/oootnt/entry/openoffice_org_exports_and_imports Uwe -- Uwe Fischer | Technical Writer Oracle Office GBU ORACLE Deutschland B.V. Co. KG | Nagelsweg 55 | 20097 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Rijnzathe 6, 3454PV De Meern, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Kunz, Marcel van de Molen, Alexander van der Ven - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: PDF Conversion
Den 2010-12-12 01:33:24 skrev RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net: On Sat Dec 11 2010 14:45:54 GMT-0800 (PST) Douglas Hinds wrote: One more thing: My own posts are not returning (so I'm bbc-ing myself) and I'm wondering if this can be changed via my account's configuration. That is a Gmail thing. For some reason they figure that if you send it you do not need a copy. Go figure. Well, the Gmail idea is, as far as I know, that you are not supposed to delete anything, so everything you ever wrote or received is still searchable in Gmail and you can also find your written messages by clicking ”Sent messages”. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: PDF Conversion
On 12/11/2010 06:33 PM, RA Brown wrote: On Sat Dec 11 2010 14:45:54 GMT-0800 (PST) Douglas Hinds wrote: One more thing: My own posts are not returning (so I'm bbc-ing myself) and I'm wondering if this can be changed via my account's configuration. That is a Gmail thing. For some reason they figure that if you send it you do not need a copy. Go figure. Yayhoo also does this. When I want to send myself something from work and be sure I can get it at home, I merely click on Send, then go into the Sent folder on the yayhoo site and move the message to the Inbox. Then Thunderbird will DL it at home. Only way I ever see anything I post to any group or list is if someone replies to it and quotes it back. -- The hinge of history is on a stable door in Bethlehem Earl -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: PDF Conversion
On 12/10/2010 10:39 AM, Douglas Hinds wrote: OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. I installed the extension OO offers for doing that but the results were not adequate. I no longer use Windows. Can anyone suggest a Linux Application (I'm running Mint - a version of Ubuntu) that would allow me to convert PDF files to a format editable in OO? Thanks in advance for your suggestions. While doubling the size of the PDF, you can save as a 'hybrid' PDF. That way you can open the PDF directly in Writer and edit. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pdf_Import_Extension/Announcement http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=openoffice+%2Bpdf+%2BhybridbtnG=Search For existing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software#Unix_.2F_Linux PDF Edit is good, but rather complex and can take some time to master (I never have). http://pdfedit.petricek.net/en/index.html http://pdfedit.petricek.net/en/user_doc.html If you plan to edit quite a few, particularly in a commercial environment, I'd recommend PDF Studio: http://www.qoppa.com/index.html Give the free trial a spin: http://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: PDF Conversion
NoOp mentioned: While doubling the size of the PDF, you can save as a 'hybrid' PDF. That way you can open the PDF directly in Writer and edit. That's definitely worth a try. But if I open a pdf file as such from oo write it will open it in oo draw which does not offer that format when I try to save it. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pdf_Import_Extension/Announcement http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=openoffice+%2Bpdf+%2BhybridbtnG=Search For existing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software#Unix_.2F_Linux PDF Edit is good, but rather complex and can take some time to master (I never have). http://pdfedit.petricek.net/en/index.html http://pdfedit.petricek.net/en/user_doc.html If you plan to edit quite a few, particularly in a commercial environment, I'd recommend PDF Studio: http://www.qoppa.com/index.html Give the free trial a spin: http://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/index.html More than EDIT pdf files, my goal is to EXTRACT or EMPHASIZE info contained in them. Converting to a .txt file would allow that but of course, I'd lose the preexisting formatting and graphics. I will follow up on your suggestions and links, which should help me arrive sooner at a more or less workable solution. One more thing: My own posts are not returning (so I'm bbc-ing myself) and I'm wondering if this can be changed via my account's configuration. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: PDF Conversion
On Sat Dec 11 2010 14:45:54 GMT-0800 (PST) Douglas Hinds wrote: One more thing: My own posts are not returning (so I'm bbc-ing myself) and I'm wondering if this can be changed via my account's configuration. That is a Gmail thing. For some reason they figure that if you send it you do not need a copy. Go figure. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: PDF Conversion
On 12/11/2010 02:45 PM, Douglas Hinds wrote: NoOp mentioned: While doubling the size of the PDF, you can save as a 'hybrid' PDF. That way you can open the PDF directly in Writer and edit. That's definitely worth a try. But if I open a pdf file as such from oo write it will open it in oo draw which does not offer that format when I try to save it. I didn't say that the hybrid feature will work with existing PDFs. Please read what I wrote. If I a export a PDF as a hybrid file, and then open OOo and select File|Open|path to the hybrid PDF, the file opens in Writer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
