Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On 11/28/10 4:37 PM, RA Brown wrote: That is strange as here it does. I opened a jpg in gimp, cut and pasted it into a new Writer document. Saved the doc then closed Writer open the ODT with Archive Manager and the directory is there with the picture, in PNG format. This all done under Ubuntu and Go-oo v 3.2 will test with OOo 3.3RC6. Andy Is what I get from this that OOo indeed converts JPGs (and GIFs and PICTs?) into PNG as its native image state? That I should rename these mystery Picture folder image files with long number filenames with PNG extensions to render them right in viewers or re-pasting? On Sun Nov 28 2010 13:28:16 GMT-0800 (PST) Guy Voets wrote: Hello, Did a quick test: - a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures' in the odt folder - an inserted picture (Insert Picture From File) appears in the 'Pictures' folder in the odt zip This would explain a lot with one of my frustrating hangups, like maybe why I can't get imbedded MOVs to cut their links and be standalone image files, no matter whether I use the insert menu or direct cut-paste. Might this be related to why images in RTF documents created in other WPs won't be rendered in OOo a'la No QT decompressor available? A image/mov insertion bug perhaps? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On Mon Nov 29 2010 07:19:13 GMT-0800 (PST) James Greenidge wrote: On 11/28/10 4:37 PM, RA Brown wrote: That is strange as here it does. I opened a jpg in gimp, cut and pasted it into a new Writer document. Saved the doc then closed Writer open the ODT with Archive Manager and the directory is there with the picture, in PNG format. This all done under Ubuntu and Go-oo v 3.2 will test with OOo 3.3RC6. Andy Is what I get from this that OOo indeed converts JPGs (and GIFs and PICTs?) into PNG as its native image state? That I should rename these mystery Picture folder image files with long number filenames with PNG extensions to render them right in viewers or re-pasting? It would appear that pasted images are saved in PNG format, though inserted images use the original format. The system should be able to detect the proper file type without the extension. You can try adding the extension to see if it helps. The offer is still open if you wish a second set of eyes to look at it. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
Den 2010-11-29 16:19:13 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com: On 11/28/10 4:37 PM, RA Brown wrote: That is strange as here it does. I opened a jpg in gimp, cut and pasted it into a new Writer document. Saved the doc then closed Writer open the ODT with Archive Manager and the directory is there with the picture, in PNG format. This all done under Ubuntu and Go-oo v 3.2 will test with OOo 3.3RC6. Andy Is what I get from this that OOo indeed converts JPGs (and GIFs and PICTs?) into PNG as its native image state? That I should rename these mystery Picture folder image files with long number filenames with PNG extensions to render them right in viewers or re-pasting? On Sun Nov 28 2010 13:28:16 GMT-0800 (PST) Guy Voets wrote: Hello, Did a quick test: - a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures' in the odt folder - an inserted picture (Insert Picture From File) appears in the 'Pictures' folder in the odt zip This would explain a lot with one of my frustrating hangups, like maybe why I can't get imbedded MOVs to cut their links and be standalone image files, no matter whether I use the insert menu or direct cut-paste. Might this be related to why images in RTF documents created in other WPs won't be rendered in OOo a'la No QT decompressor available? A image/mov insertion bug perhaps? I personally don't trust Go-oo or the Ubuntu OpenOffice.org. It seems to be made of bugs; I found quite a few before I switched to the ”vanilla OpenOffice.org” on my Ubuntu machine. My impression of Ubuntu OpenOffice.org was that very much simply doesn't work (and we have four Ubuntu machines altogether, me and my wife, and we had the same problems will all of them). However, if this is relevant in this particular case, I don't know. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
I have been using Open Office 3.1 for a while now. But, today, I could not use any of the features. Instead, a message pops up for me to register my OpenOffice 3.1. Is this a new thing? Or, is it a virus? Nothing on the OO website, as far as I can see. Should I register? Will I have to do it daily? I am dead in the water. Thanks for your help Rodd On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM, James Greenidge ji...@mac.com wrote: On 11/28/10 4:37 PM, RA Brown wrote: That is strange as here it does. I opened a jpg in gimp, cut and pasted it into a new Writer document. Saved the doc then closed Writer open the ODT with Archive Manager and the directory is there with the picture, in PNG format. This all done under Ubuntu and Go-oo v 3.2 will test with OOo 3.3RC6. Andy Is what I get from this that OOo indeed converts JPGs (and GIFs and PICTs?) into PNG as its native image state? That I should rename these mystery Picture folder image files with long number filenames with PNG extensions to render them right in viewers or re-pasting? On Sun Nov 28 2010 13:28:16 GMT-0800 (PST) Guy Voets wrote: Hello, Did a quick test: - a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures' in the odt folder - an inserted picture (Insert Picture From File) appears in the 'Pictures' folder in the odt zip This would explain a lot with one of my frustrating hangups, like maybe why I can't get imbedded MOVs to cut their links and be standalone image files, no matter whether I use the insert menu or direct cut-paste. Might this be related to why images in RTF documents created in other WPs won't be rendered in OOo a'la No QT decompressor available? A image/mov insertion bug perhaps? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On Mon Nov 29 2010 08:03:22 GMT-0800 (PST) Roddey Caughman wrote: I have been using Open Office 3.1 for a while now. But, today, I could not use any of the features. Instead, a message pops up for me to register my OpenOffice 3.1. Is this a new thing? Or, is it a virus? Nothing on the OO website, as far as I can see. Should I register? Will I have to do it daily? I am dead in the water. Thanks for your help Rodd There is no requirement to register OOo. Is there a reason you have not upgraded to the latest version? Have you ran a virus scan? There should be an option to Never register or I have already registered select one of those and you should not be seen again. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
Thanks, Andy. What is the latest version? Rodd On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:18 AM, RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote: On Mon Nov 29 2010 08:03:22 GMT-0800 (PST) Roddey Caughman wrote: I have been using Open Office 3.1 for a while now. But, today, I could not use any of the features. Instead, a message pops up for me to register my OpenOffice 3.1. Is this a new thing? Or, is it a virus? Nothing on the OO website, as far as I can see. Should I register? Will I have to do it daily? I am dead in the water. Thanks for your help Rodd There is no requirement to register OOo. Is there a reason you have not upgraded to the latest version? Have you ran a virus scan? There should be an option to Never register or I have already registered select one of those and you should not be seen again. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
Hi Rodd, 2010/11/29 Roddey Caughman signing...@gmail.com Thanks, Andy. What is the latest version? The latest version is 3.2.1. If you wait a few days, the next version (3.3) should come out soon. Sigrid
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On Mon Nov 29 2010 08:22:17 GMT-0800 (PST) Roddey Caughman wrote: Thanks, Andy. What is the latest version? Rodd Available at www.openofffiec.org is 3.2.1 with 3.3RC6 waiting in the wings, hopefully released soon. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
I don't know yet - Original Message - From: RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images? On Mon Nov 29 2010 08:22:17 GMT-0800 (PST) Roddey Caughman wrote: Thanks, Andy. What is the latest version? Rodd Available at www.openofffiec.org is 3.2.1 with 3.3RC6 waiting in the wings, hopefully released soon. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 10.0.1170 / Virusdatabase: 426/3287 - datum van uitgifte: 11/29/10 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On Monday, November 29, 2010 02:04:33 pm alida en arie wrote: I don't know yet - Original Message - From: RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images? On Mon Nov 29 2010 08:22:17 GMT-0800 (PST) Roddey Caughman wrote: Thanks, Andy. What is the latest version? Rodd Available at www.openofffiec.org is 3.2.1 with 3.3RC6 waiting in the wings, hopefully released soon. Andy 3.3 RC7 is now available. And as Andy stated, hopefully, this will become the 3.3.0 stable version. It all depends upon whether anyone finds a show stopper in this version or not. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com: A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files pasted into a Write doc? Thanks! Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in a separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com: A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files pasted into a Write doc? Thanks! Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in a separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that. The images are stored in their own folder within the odf file. This folder is named Picture. As mentioned by the previous poster, the images are stored in the odf file only if they have been embedded into the writer document. If you had chosen to only link the images, the ODF file will only contain a link to where the images were located when you made the link to the images. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On 11/28/10 10:04 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com: A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files pasted into a Write doc? Thanks! Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in a separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that. The images are stored in their own folder within the odf file. This folder is named Picture. As mentioned by the previous poster, the images are stored in the odf file only if they have been embedded into the writer document. If you had chosen to only link the images, the ODF file will only contain a link to where the images were located when you made the link to the images. Dan Thanks for the swift answer! I found several files in Pictures folder which have several files with long random numbers as filenames which my Mac image readers won't even list. Are they real image files and are they PNG or PICT or JPG and MOV like my image readers are expecting? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
James Greenidge wrote: On 11/28/10 10:04 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com: A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files pasted into a Write doc? Thanks! Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in a separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that. The images are stored in their own folder within the odf file. This folder is named Picture. As mentioned by the previous poster, the images are stored in the odf file only if they have been embedded into the writer document. If you had chosen to only link the images, the ODF file will only contain a link to where the images were located when you made the link to the images. Dan Thanks for the swift answer! I found several files in Pictures folder which have several files with long random numbers as filenames which my Mac image readers won't even list. Are they real image files and are they PNG or PICT or JPG and MOV like my image readers are expecting? They are real images. I save an embedded picture (JPEG file) in a Writer document. When I unzipped the document, the file in the Picture folder contained a JPEG file. When I did the same thing when embedding a PNG picture in a Writer document, the Picture folder contained a PNG file. My conclusion: the image files in the Picture folder are the image formats as the image format of the image embedded in the Writer document. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On 11/28/10 2:20 PM, Daniel Lewis wrote: James Greenidge wrote: On 11/28/10 10:04 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Den 2010-11-28 15:03:15 skrev James Greenidge ji...@mac.com: A Write document is corrupt but I can use Stuffit to open it and get at the files but I can't find the very important images. Does OOo store then as PNG or PICT or JPG? Also, does OOo convert image files pasted into a Write doc? Thanks! Are your images in your writer document or are they linked to from writer? If the latter, there are no images in the ODF. Otherwise I guess OpenOffice.org Writer stores them in their original format in a separate folder (”Images”?), but I'm not 100 % sure about that. The images are stored in their own folder within the odf file. This folder is named Picture. As mentioned by the previous poster, the images are stored in the odf file only if they have been embedded into the writer document. If you had chosen to only link the images, the ODF file will only contain a link to where the images were located when you made the link to the images. Dan Thanks for the swift answer! I found several files in Pictures folder which have several files with long random numbers as filenames which my Mac image readers won't even list. Are they real image files and are they PNG or PICT or JPG and MOV like my image readers are expecting? They are real images. I save an embedded picture (JPEG file) in a Writer document. When I unzipped the document, the file in the Picture folder contained a JPEG file. When I did the same thing when embedding a PNG picture in a Writer document, the Picture folder contained a PNG file. My conclusion: the image files in the Picture folder are the image formats as the image format of the image embedded in the Writer document. Dan O.K, now that you state that things might get more complex, so please bear with this non-techie and that this all on Mac OOo. Firstly, I learned that the Writer images were not file imported into the Writer document but directly cut-and-pasted from Graphic Converter (a fine Photoshop workalike) after being resized from both JPG and GIF and PNG originals (we found only BMP can be directly imported as a file without the Sections menu appearing). So, would these images be cut and pasted into Writer in their original format or converted by OOo into a native OOo image format? That said, how can we tell what image formats these files in the Picture folder are to do anything with them, and more, how do you make image viewers (and future re-pasting) see them with their odd long all numbers non-image format file names? Hope I spelled it out coherently! Thanks! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On Sun Nov 28 2010 12:48:29 GMT-0800 (PST) James Greenidge wrote: O.K, now that you state that things might get more complex, so please bear with this non-techie and that this all on Mac OOo. Firstly, I learned that the Writer images were not file imported into the Writer document but directly cut-and-pasted from Graphic Converter (a fine Photoshop workalike) after being resized from both JPG and GIF and PNG originals (we found only BMP can be directly imported as a file without the Sections menu appearing). So, would these images be cut and pasted into Writer in their original format or converted by OOo into a native OOo image format? That said, how can we tell what image formats these files in the Picture folder are to do anything with them, and more, how do you make image viewers (and future re-pasting) see them with their odd long all numbers non-image format file names? Hope I spelled it out coherently! Thanks! The pictures are stored in the format/ext they were imported in. You are saying cut and pasted it seem that is dependent on the native format of where they were cut from. Are you not seeing a file extension? You can extract the picture folder from the archive and rename the files with a shorter name to see if your viewer will recognize them. Use your archive tool to extract them. If all else fails you can send me a copy and I will extract them for you. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
The pictures are stored in the format/ext they were imported in. You are saying cut and pasted it seem that is dependent on the native format of where they were cut from. Are you not seeing a file extension? You can extract the picture folder from the archive and rename the files with a shorter name to see if your viewer will recognize them. Use your archive tool to extract them. If all else fails you can send me a copy and I will extract them for you. Andy Hello, Did a quick test: - a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures' in the odt folder - an inserted picture (Insert Picture From File) appears in the 'Pictures' folder in the odt zip -- Guy using LibO 3.3.0 and OOo 3.3.0on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard -- please reply only to users@openoffice.org -- Dodoes can't afford to have headaches - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
On Sun Nov 28 2010 13:28:16 GMT-0800 (PST) Guy Voets wrote: The pictures are stored in the format/ext they were imported in. You are saying cut and pasted it seem that is dependent on the native format of where they were cut from. Are you not seeing a file extension? You can extract the picture folder from the archive and rename the files with a shorter name to see if your viewer will recognize them. Use your archive tool to extract them. If all else fails you can send me a copy and I will extract them for you. Andy Hello, Did a quick test: - a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures' in the odt folder - an inserted picture (Insert Picture From File) appears in the 'Pictures' folder in the odt zip That is strange as here it does. I opened a jpg in gimp, cut and pasted it into a new Writer document. Saved the doc then closed Writer open the ODT with Archive Manager and the directory is there with the picture, in PNG format. This all done under Ubuntu and Go-oo v 3.2 will test with OOo 3.3RC6. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How does OOo store Writer images?
RA Brown wrote: On Sun Nov 28 2010 13:28:16 GMT-0800 (PST) Guy Voets wrote: The pictures are stored in the format/ext they were imported in. You are saying cut and pasted it seem that is dependent on the native format of where they were cut from. Are you not seeing a file extension? You can extract the picture folder from the archive and rename the files with a shorter name to see if your viewer will recognize them. Use your archive tool to extract them. If all else fails you can send me a copy and I will extract them for you. Andy Hello, Did a quick test: - a cut and pasted picture doesn't seem to trigger a folder 'Pictures' in the odt folder - an inserted picture (Insert Picture From File) appears in the 'Pictures' folder in the odt zip That is strange as here it does. I opened a jpg in gimp, cut and pasted it into a new Writer document. Saved the doc then closed Writer open the ODT with Archive Manager and the directory is there with the picture, in PNG format. This all done under Ubuntu and Go-oo v 3.2 will test with OOo 3.3RC6. Andy Since the question involved Mac OS X, I created a writer document and saved it using my MacBook (10.4) with OOo from the OOo website. Then I cut an paste a PNG file into the document and saved it again. I do not have Stuffit on my MacBook. (Both saves was to my thumb drive (flash drive). I then opened the writer document on my Ubuntu 10.4 LST so that I could use my archive manager. The Picture folder was present with one file: the same PNG file that I had pasted into the writer document with a very long file name. While I do not have Stuffit, when a compressed file is opened in Stuffit; can you Control+Click on the file in the Picture folder and open it with Preview? (For people who do not use a Mac, Control+Click does the same thing that a right click does on Linux and Windows versions.) Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
