Re: [SOGo] New here, question about email services/shared cal+addressbook in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Harry M. Aasterud

	Mr Marcotte,

	Please forgive me for being direct. I just checked the SOGo web site (again) and am reading both the first page and the press release. It clearly states:

	 SOGo2.0.0beta1with native Outlook compatibility. SOGo is the first Free and Open Source groupware to offer this feature!

	New features in 2.0.0beta1

	This prerelease allows Microsoft Outlook 2003, 2007 or 2010 to talk directly to SOGo - just like if it was a Microsoft Exchange server.No plugins are required for Microsoft Outlook to make this work.

	Nowhere in the documentation it is written that the native Outlook compatibility is only supported up to a certain degree due to missing features. When SOGo users on this mailing list inform that certain functions do not work, use time and effort (and time is money for some of us...) to see what this new feature is all about, it is only correct to say that they are reporting bugs. If those are not bugs, it should be stated what functions are not included, since people expect an alternative to their Exchange server (as so nicely presented in the press release).
	
	I am not here to make bad publicity. But when somebody tells me to refrain from responding, I find it more then correct to point out the above. Again, forgive me for being direct. I guess I must have been mislead by the way the software was announced. But I know there is one thing we all can agree on: it is a beta release. Other then that let me add that SOGo is a great piece of software, and I hope to install it on a production server soon. There are still a few things I need to work out, hopefully by using this mailing list. I have send a commercial request earlier to Inverse, but never got a reply. But well manage.

	To all of those who work had on this project: keep up the great work, youre doing an incredible job !

	Regards,

	Harry
	

	On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:40 PM CET, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
	

	On 17/01/12 17:14, Harry M. Aasterud wrote:
	 Read the e-mails from today Outlook connector. Here is the
	 discussion and conclusion that the Outlook connector still is in beta
	 for SOGo V2. So not stable for production. To many bugs...
	You have to differentiate bugs and missing features in a beta software.
	If you cant due to your lack of knowledge on the solution, refrain from
	responding.
	
	Such comments are far from motivating for all of those who work hard on it.
	
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Re: [SOGo] New here, question about email services/shared cal+addressbook in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread André Schild

Hello Harry,

Am 18.01.2012 09:05, schrieb Harry M. Aasterud:


Mr Marcotte,

Please forgive me for being direct. I just checked the SOGo web site 
(again) and am reading both the first page and the press release. It 
clearly states:


 SOGo*2.0.0beta1*with native Outlook compatibility. SOGo is the 
first Free and Open Source groupware to offer this feature!



  New features in 2.0.0beta1

This prerelease allows Microsoft Outlook 2003, 2007 or 2010 to talk 
directly to SOGo - just like if it was a Microsoft Exchange server.*No 
plugins are required for Microsoft Outlook to make this work.*


Nowhere in the documentation it is written that the native Outlook 
compatibility is only supported up to a certain degree due to missing 
features.




BETA BETA BETA

What do you think that word means ?
The intention is to make it fully working, but that's not done in one day.
Features are added step by step and when it will be complete to work in 
a LAN environment we will see a final version.


Of course some features like rpc over https will probably be missing, 
but these are features which will be added later on. (Exchange 2010 was 
not built in one day either)


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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector

2012-01-18 Thread Christian Mack
Absolutely correct.


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

On 2012-01-17 17:55, Harry M. Aasterud wrote:
 Thank you all for spontaneous reaction :o) Great ! The way I understand
 it the status is as follows:
 
 The latest 1.3.xx release is ready for production, and so is the TB
 connector/integrator. This combination can be offered as a hosted
 multi-domain groupware solution. Funambol syncing is also to be
 considered to work on a production platform at this stage.
 
 Outlook compatibility is still in beta. And even then it can only be
 used via LAN, not as a hosted solution where a local Outlook user
 connects to an external server over http(s) and synchronizes data from
 his local PC to the hosted server.
 
 
 Correct? Just to know what expectations to have, and what we can promise
 our users we can deliver ;o)
 
 Regards,
 
 Harry
  
 
 On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 05:08 PM CET, Ludovic Marcotte
 lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
  
 
 On 17/01/12 10:58, Julian Robbins wrote:
  But that said, I don't think it will be too long before it will be
  perfectly usable as a real alternative.
 Everybody has different expectations.

 SOGo is *already* an Exchange alternative - used in very (if not
 extremely) large-scale environments.

 When it comes to native Outlook compatibility, we have a radically
 different approach. We never stated it was ready for production and
 that's why we've created the SOGo v2 branch - to let people test it
 quite easily (together with the ZEG/Outlook).

 For those who want to offer hosted native Outlook compatibility, the
 Outlook Anywhere (RPC over HTTP) protocol will have to be added first
 to the whole solution (mostly in Samba4).

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Re: [SOGo] Question about provisioning users in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
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On 2012-01-18 00:28, Georg Bretschneider wrote:
 Hi Fabian,
 
 please take a look into the SOGo documentation. There is an example ldif
 file shown for creating an ordinary user.
 With the informations provided there you should be able to create a user
 using Webmin, too.
 
 But it looks like you are having a general problem here. Take a look
 into this
 conversation: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.groupware.sogo.user/8325
 
 Bye
 Georg


Georg,

My point here is I am using the Zero Effort Groupware version of SOGo,
which is supposed to be, well, zero effort. I thought having a quick
demo with the ZEG virtual machine would work immediately, which sadly
isn't the case.

If you look the documentation bit you mention, you'll notice it's a cut
 paste of the admin bit, which is why I cloned the user via the web
interface. If such obvious assumptions don't work when documentation is
missing, I am all for experimenting all the options, digging into LDAP
and filing the bug reports but my context is different right now.

I have taken notes of what could be improved in the ZEG image, I'll post
that next.

F.


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Re: [SOGo] New here, question about email services/shared cal+addressbook in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
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On 2012-01-17 17:14, Harry M. Aasterud wrote:
 Hi Fabian,
 
 Read the e-mails from today Outlook connector. Here is the discussion
 and conclusion that the Outlook connector still is in beta for SOGo V2.
 So not stable for production. To many bugs...

Actually the comments are pretty positive and progress is very good from
my point of view. For once being an Outlook user is not better than
using Thunderbird ;)

In my context I already have the OK to ditch Outlook and go for
Thunderbird. The recent announcement from Mozilla about enterprise
versions and support makes this easier. We'll still have people that
don't want to leave Outlook in other projects, so I'll follow that closely.

For anyone that has the time and resources to do so right now, it's an
ideal time to help with the Outlook connector testing  QA, as you stand
a high chance of influencing its development and tackle your issues.
Beta is where you get the most of dev attention.

Cheers,

F.

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Re: [SOGo] New here, question about email services/shared cal+addressbook in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
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On 2012-01-18 03:05, Harry M. Aasterud wrote:
 Mr Marcotte,
 
[...]
 Nowhere in the documentation it is written that the native Outlook
 compatibility is only supported up to a certain degree due to missing
 features. 

It's actually pretty clear in the documentation:

The current version of the Native Microsoft Outlook compatibility layer
has some limitations.

Those limitations will be overcome in the upcoming beta. If you are
interested in having those limitations fixed more rapidly, please
contact Inverse by sending an email to supp...@inverse.ca.

(page 14 of
http://www.sogo.nu/files/docs/SOGo%20Native%20Microsoft%20Outlook%20Configuration.pdf
at http://www.sogo.nu/downloads/documentation.html)

Not sure if that doc was posted after b1 but it looks good.

Having a PDF handy to forward to the Windows admins with an exact quote
in 2 sentences, which also covers commercial support (pay if you can't
wait) is as good as it gets.

Great work, indeed.

Cheers,

F.

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Re: [SOGo] New here, question about email services/shared cal+addressbook in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Christian Mack
On 2012-01-18 00:26, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 On 12-01-17 05:46 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:
 On 17/01/12 16:43, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 The users I need this for already have email provisioned elsewhere.

 Where? What kind of software is used for provisioning? SOGo can reuses
 existing LDAP or SQL-based infrastructures to authenticate users.
 
 A commercial ISP.
 

Ludovic didn't ask for the name of your Provider or your contracts ;-)

How are users authenticated there?
LDAP, ActiveDirectory, Database?
Do you have access to this authentication store?

If the answer is yes, then you can integrate this authentication into SOGo.
This means no local copy of it, but direct access from SOGo to it.


   Will
 their IMAP remote account be able to integrate shared contacts and
 calendar from a local SOGo server ?
 Define remote account. If it's a GMail account, for example. SOGo
 will be able to pull mails over IMAP just fine. You can also likely
 pull the ICS version of your calendar from GMail to SOGo. As for
 contacts, no.
 
 IMAP remote account = email account on ISP's server.
 
 I didn't mean to integrate the remote CAL/adrbook (there are none in
 this case), but rather the local ones provided with SOGo (instead of
 Outlook's data in workstation-local .PST files).
 
   I understand the need for the local
 mail server (notifications, primarily), but I want to keep those
 separate. Is it possible ?
 Depends on your answer above ;-)
 
 My conclusion is yes - if I read this correctly, SOGo would pull IMAP
 the external IMAP account locally to its own IMAP store. Where does that
 configuration (for remote pull/sync) happen ? I have much to learn about
 this.

No, SOGo doesn't pull emails from external IMAP into its own IMAP store.
It uses one IMAP store which can be located anywhere.
The difficult part is authentication.
SOGo needs to know how to authenticate at this IMAP store.
See the above questions.


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

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Re: [SOGo] Somme suggestions to improve the ZEG VM image

2012-01-18 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
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On 2012-01-18 03:37, Fabián Rodríguez wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Yesterday when trying the ZEG VM Sogo image for the first time I took
 some notes that would make it better for first-timers.[...]
 - The in-depth documentation only has a brief LDIF-only example of
 adding a user, which was cutpast of creating the administrator (which
 isn't needed in ZEG - or is it?), I am trying this next but will have to
 restart from scratch.
 
 - Once the appliance has finished booting, a URL will be shown. Please
 follow the next instructions from there.
 There were many options but no clear use-case for a first time test. My
 use case was:
 1- Add two users
[...]
 
 Got stuck at #1 which really wasn't expected.
 

This bit from another (current) thread on SQL authentication seems to
support the need for a bit more hand-holding when adding users (within
the ZEG or not):

 I?m trying to add the Admin user and a regular user, and I?m stuck.
 There doesn?t seem to be a sogo_view table, which seems to be logical
 given the other DB options added and their corresponding tables in the
 DB. Also, the other tables don?t have enough fields to make me think
 they?re relevant for adding users. The documentation shows how to add
 users using LDAP, but nothing on SQL.

Furthermore, what are the pros/cons of authenticating via and SQL db /
LDAP ? Stating this in the documentation would help shape a SOGo install
for future needs.

F.

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Re: [SOGo] New here, question about email services/shared cal+addressbook in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
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On 2012-01-18 03:55, Christian Mack wrote:
 On 2012-01-18 00:26, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 On 12-01-17 05:46 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:
 On 17/01/12 16:43, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 The users I need this for already have email provisioned elsewhere.

 Where? What kind of software is used for provisioning? SOGo can reuses
 existing LDAP or SQL-based infrastructures to authenticate users.

 A commercial ISP.

 
 Ludovic didn't ask for the name of your Provider or your contracts ;-)
 
 How are users authenticated there?
 LDAP, ActiveDirectory, Database?
 Do you have access to this authentication store?
 
 If the answer is yes, then you can integrate this authentication into SOGo.
 This means no local copy of it, but direct access from SOGo to it.

It's just IMAP email accounts part of a standard web hosting service at
a commercial ISP. *Not* Gmail, that tends to confuse the whole
addressbook/calendar part. No, I don't have access to the authentication
store (other than the IMAP/POP3 protocols).

Ludovic knows exactly where I work and who I work with, as anyone can
find from my very public information. ;)

Please don't CC me, I am on the list.

F.

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Re: [SOGo] Does SOGo handle SMTP error codes in Webmail?

2012-01-18 Thread Julian Robbins

On 17/01/12 18:28, Francis Lachapelle wrote:

In here  
http://www.sogo.nu/english/nc/support/faq/article/cant-send-mail-via-the-the-web-interface-2.html

it claims that

Note that SOGo doesn't currently handle SMTP error codes.

is this still true? The FAQ entry is from Jan 2009, so not sure whether this is 
still accurate.

It's no longer true. I updated the FAQ. SOGo does handle SMTP error codes.


Many thanks

I thought it might be the case.

I think sometimes the FAQ is a little overlooked by everyone. Perhaps 
understandably as the manulas really are excellent, but there are very 
useful nuggets in the FAQ.


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[SOGo] change ldap attributes displayed in a sogo LDAP adress book

2012-01-18 Thread Eric Jourdan

Hello all,

 Is there any way to cutomize a sogo LDAP adress book ?
I would like to replace fields screen name or organization (no value 
in ldap) by others attributes valued in our ldap .


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[SOGo] Autocomplete question

2012-01-18 Thread Nicolas - Lileo

Hi,

When i'm inviting someone of my organisation to a event, the 
autocompletion is looking in all my addressbooks, but i only need him to 
look in my ldap directory (which contains only my collegue contacts).
If in thunderbird i turn off the autocomplete search in local 
addressbook, i loose - of course - the autocompletion search in all my 
addressbooks, when i'm write a message.

My question is :
Is there a way to separate autocompletion between ldap directory search 
and local addressbook search?


Thanks

Thunderbird 3.1.17
Sogo 1.3.11


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Re: [SOGo] Question about provisioning users in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Georg Bretschneider
Hi Fabian,

you are right, both ldifs are more or less the same. I forgot about that. 
Nevertheless, I pointed you to the documentation so you can reassure yourself 
that everything you did was correct.

The fact you're using ZEG...well, I did not parse this piece. It was too early 
in the morning and I just woke up. :)
Sorry about that.

And you are correct, again. ZEG should work out of the box. As I tried it with 
SOGo v1.3.9, I couldn't complain.

Right now, I can't take a deeper look into your problem. I'll try after work. 
Hopefully, can support you much faster.


Bye,
Georg

Am 18.01.2012 um 09:21 schrieb Fabián Rodríguez magic...@member.fsf.org:

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 On 2012-01-18 00:28, Georg Bretschneider wrote:
 Hi Fabian,
 
 please take a look into the SOGo documentation. There is an example ldif
 file shown for creating an ordinary user.
 With the informations provided there you should be able to create a user
 using Webmin, too.
 
 But it looks like you are having a general problem here. Take a look
 into this
 conversation: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.groupware.sogo.user/8325
 
 Bye
 Georg
 
 
 Georg,
 
 My point here is I am using the Zero Effort Groupware version of SOGo,
 which is supposed to be, well, zero effort. I thought having a quick
 demo with the ZEG virtual machine would work immediately, which sadly
 isn't the case.
 
 If you look the documentation bit you mention, you'll notice it's a cut
  paste of the admin bit, which is why I cloned the user via the web
 interface. If such obvious assumptions don't work when documentation is
 missing, I am all for experimenting all the options, digging into LDAP
 and filing the bug reports but my context is different right now.
 
 I have taken notes of what could be improved in the ZEG image, I'll post
 that next.
 
 F.
 
 
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Re: [SOGo] Funambol?

2012-01-18 Thread Matthias Petermann
Anthony,

thanks for this summary. The information was very helpful to me. The time zone issue workaround solved one of my problems.

Greetings,
Matthias

Am Dienstag, 17. Januar 2012 17:02 CET, Anthony Callegaro cally...@free.fr schrieb:


	On 17/01/12 14:54, Matthias Petermann wrote:
	 could you please point me to a ressource where I can find the known
	 bugs? We are using SOGo 1.3.11 with Funambol 9 and the current connector
	 but have some issues.
	
	Bugs that I encountered while deploying Sogo Funambol connector with
	Funambol 10 :
	* Need to set up your TZ in Sogo before trying a sync :
	http://www.mail-archive.com/users@sogo.nu/msg03882.html or it will crash
	and you will most likely end up with duplicates in Sogo and in your
	mobile phone calendar.
	* Issue with \r\r : This issue is a Thunderbird bug. You can either use
	the Sogo WebGUI ICS import or if you already uploaded a corrupted ics
	use the following query on your db server :
	
	select * from YOURCALENDARTABLE where c_content like %\r\r%;
	update sogoanthonyl0031cea2039 set c_content=replace(c_content,
	\r\r, \r) where c_content like %\r\r%;
	
	see :
	http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=904
	https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists/arc/users/2010-05/msg00281.html
	* In order for iPhone to work with Funambol you need the following in
	Sogos configuration :
	
	WOUseRelativeURLs
	YES
	
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Re: [SOGo] New here, question about email services/shared cal+addressbook in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Christian Mack
On 2012-01-18 10:20, Fabián Rodríguez wrote:
 On 2012-01-18 03:55, Christian Mack wrote:
 On 2012-01-18 00:26, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 On 12-01-17 05:46 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:
 On 17/01/12 16:43, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 The users I need this for already have email provisioned elsewhere.

 Where? What kind of software is used for provisioning? SOGo can reuses
 existing LDAP or SQL-based infrastructures to authenticate users.

 A commercial ISP.

 
 How are users authenticated there?
 LDAP, ActiveDirectory, Database?
 Do you have access to this authentication store?
 
 If the answer is yes, then you can integrate this authentication into SOGo.
 This means no local copy of it, but direct access from SOGo to it.
 
 It's just IMAP email accounts part of a standard web hosting service at
 a commercial ISP. *Not* Gmail, that tends to confuse the whole
 addressbook/calendar part. No, I don't have access to the authentication
 store (other than the IMAP/POP3 protocols).

Then you have to manage all access credentials (usernames and passwords)
for SOGo either in LDAP/AD or in a MySQL/Postgresql Database yourself.
Usernames and passwords in SOGo have to be the same as used for
accessing your external IMAP store.
With this you have to change passwords in SOGo AND your external IMAP
store simultaneously in order to use email.


 Ludovic didn't ask for the name of your Provider or your contracts ;-)
 
 Ludovic knows exactly where I work and who I work with, as anyone can
 find from my very public information. ;)

I just wanted to say, that you are not answering his question.
Obviously I didn't succeed.

 Please don't CC me, I am on the list.
 

OK.


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[SOGo] HowTo delete Thunderbird 3.1.17 Lightning (Inverse) Cache (using Connector/integrator)

2012-01-18 Thread Martin Seener

Hello,

can anyone tell me how to delete the calendar cache, so after a TB 
restart he reloads everthing through LDAP.


Which files to delete/modify!? Have no clue :(

Thank you!

Best Regards,
Martin

On 1/18/12 11:56 AM, Georg Bretschneider wrote:

Hi Fabian,

you are right, both ldifs are more or less the same. I forgot about that. 
Nevertheless, I pointed you to the documentation so you can reassure yourself 
that everything you did was correct.

The fact you're using ZEG...well, I did not parse this piece. It was too early 
in the morning and I just woke up. :)
Sorry about that.

And you are correct, again. ZEG should work out of the box. As I tried it with 
SOGo v1.3.9, I couldn't complain.

Right now, I can't take a deeper look into your problem. I'll try after work. 
Hopefully, can support you much faster.


Bye,
Georg

Am 18.01.2012 um 09:21 schrieb Fabián Rodríguezmagic...@member.fsf.org:


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On 2012-01-18 00:28, Georg Bretschneider wrote:

Hi Fabian,

please take a look into the SOGo documentation. There is an example ldif
file shown for creating an ordinary user.
With the informations provided there you should be able to create a user
using Webmin, too.

But it looks like you are having a general problem here. Take a look
into this
conversation: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.groupware.sogo.user/8325

Bye
Georg


Georg,

My point here is I am using the Zero Effort Groupware version of SOGo,
which is supposed to be, well, zero effort. I thought having a quick
demo with the ZEG virtual machine would work immediately, which sadly
isn't the case.

If you look the documentation bit you mention, you'll notice it's a cut
  paste of the admin bit, which is why I cloned the user via the web
interface. If such obvious assumptions don't work when documentation is
missing, I am all for experimenting all the options, digging into LDAP
and filing the bug reports but my context is different right now.

I have taken notes of what could be improved in the ZEG image, I'll post
that next.

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Re: [SOGo] HowTo delete Thunderbird 3.1.17 Lightning (Inverse) Cache (using Connector/integrator)

2012-01-18 Thread Martin Rabl

Under Windows 7:
Delete the following file:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\some-profile-name\calendar-data\cache.sqlite

Under Mac
/Users/username/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/some-profile-name/calendar-data/cache.sqlite

Similiar with Linux, I guess.

Helped me and some collegues.

Greetings,
  Martin

Am 18.01.2012 12:25, schrieb Martin Seener:

Hello,

can anyone tell me how to delete the calendar cache, so after a TB
restart he reloads everthing through LDAP.

Which files to delete/modify!? Have no clue :(

Thank you!

Best Regards,
Martin

On 1/18/12 11:56 AM, Georg Bretschneider wrote:

Hi Fabian,

you are right, both ldifs are more or less the same. I forgot about
that. Nevertheless, I pointed you to the documentation so you can
reassure yourself that everything you did was correct.

The fact you're using ZEG...well, I did not parse this piece. It was
too early in the morning and I just woke up. :)
Sorry about that.

And you are correct, again. ZEG should work out of the box. As I
tried it with SOGo v1.3.9, I couldn't complain.

Right now, I can't take a deeper look into your problem. I'll try
after work. Hopefully, can support you much faster.


Bye,
Georg

Am 18.01.2012 um 09:21 schrieb Fabián
Rodríguezmagic...@member.fsf.org:


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On 2012-01-18 00:28, Georg Bretschneider wrote:

Hi Fabian,

please take a look into the SOGo documentation. There is an
example ldif
file shown for creating an ordinary user.
With the informations provided there you should be able to create
a user
using Webmin, too.

But it looks like you are having a general problem here. Take a look
into this
conversation:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.groupware.sogo.user/8325

Bye
Georg


Georg,

My point here is I am using the Zero Effort Groupware version of
SOGo,
which is supposed to be, well, zero effort. I thought having a quick
demo with the ZEG virtual machine would work immediately, which sadly
isn't the case.

If you look the documentation bit you mention, you'll notice it's a
cut
 paste of the admin bit, which is why I cloned the user via the web
interface. If such obvious assumptions don't work when
documentation is
missing, I am all for experimenting all the options, digging into LDAP
and filing the bug reports but my context is different right now.

I have taken notes of what could be improved in the ZEG image, I'll
post
that next.

F.


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Re: [SOGo] HowTo delete Thunderbird 3.1.17 Lightning (Inverse) Cache (using Connector/integrator)

2012-01-18 Thread Martin Seener

Great, but there are some more sqlite files (acl and local)
what about these?

Greets,
Martin (again)

On 1/18/12 12:48 PM, Martin Rabl wrote:

Under Windows 7:
Delete the following file:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\some-profile-name\calendar-data\cache.sqlite 



Under Mac
/Users/username/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/some-profile-name/calendar-data/cache.sqlite 



Similiar with Linux, I guess.

Helped me and some collegues.

Greetings,
  Martin

Am 18.01.2012 12:25, schrieb Martin Seener:

Hello,

can anyone tell me how to delete the calendar cache, so after a TB
restart he reloads everthing through LDAP.

Which files to delete/modify!? Have no clue :(

Thank you!

Best Regards,
Martin

On 1/18/12 11:56 AM, Georg Bretschneider wrote:

Hi Fabian,

you are right, both ldifs are more or less the same. I forgot about
that. Nevertheless, I pointed you to the documentation so you can
reassure yourself that everything you did was correct.

The fact you're using ZEG...well, I did not parse this piece. It was
too early in the morning and I just woke up. :)
Sorry about that.

And you are correct, again. ZEG should work out of the box. As I
tried it with SOGo v1.3.9, I couldn't complain.

Right now, I can't take a deeper look into your problem. I'll try
after work. Hopefully, can support you much faster.


Bye,
Georg

Am 18.01.2012 um 09:21 schrieb Fabián
Rodríguezmagic...@member.fsf.org:


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On 2012-01-18 00:28, Georg Bretschneider wrote:

Hi Fabian,

please take a look into the SOGo documentation. There is an
example ldif
file shown for creating an ordinary user.
With the informations provided there you should be able to create
a user
using Webmin, too.

But it looks like you are having a general problem here. Take a look
into this
conversation:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.groupware.sogo.user/8325

Bye
Georg


Georg,

My point here is I am using the Zero Effort Groupware version of
SOGo,
which is supposed to be, well, zero effort. I thought having a quick
demo with the ZEG virtual machine would work immediately, which sadly
isn't the case.

If you look the documentation bit you mention, you'll notice it's a
cut
 paste of the admin bit, which is why I cloned the user via the web
interface. If such obvious assumptions don't work when
documentation is
missing, I am all for experimenting all the options, digging into LDAP
and filing the bug reports but my context is different right now.

I have taken notes of what could be improved in the ZEG image, I'll
post
that next.

F.


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Re: [SOGo] HowTo delete Thunderbird 3.1.17 Lightning (Inverse) Cache (using Connector/integrator)

2012-01-18 Thread Martin Rabl

are the other files containing the string cache? No. ;-)
Only delete cache.sqlite, it will recreated.

Am 18.01.2012 12:54, schrieb Martin Seener:

Great, but there are some more sqlite files (acl and local)
what about these?

Greets,
Martin (again)

On 1/18/12 12:48 PM, Martin Rabl wrote:

Under Windows 7:
Delete the following file:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\some-profile-name\calendar-data\cache.sqlite


Under Mac
/Users/username/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/some-profile-name/calendar-data/cache.sqlite


Similiar with Linux, I guess.

Helped me and some collegues.

Greetings,
Martin

Am 18.01.2012 12:25, schrieb Martin Seener:

Hello,

can anyone tell me how to delete the calendar cache, so after a TB
restart he reloads everthing through LDAP.

Which files to delete/modify!? Have no clue :(

Thank you!

Best Regards,
Martin

On 1/18/12 11:56 AM, Georg Bretschneider wrote:

Hi Fabian,

you are right, both ldifs are more or less the same. I forgot about
that. Nevertheless, I pointed you to the documentation so you can
reassure yourself that everything you did was correct.

The fact you're using ZEG...well, I did not parse this piece. It was
too early in the morning and I just woke up. :)
Sorry about that.

And you are correct, again. ZEG should work out of the box. As I
tried it with SOGo v1.3.9, I couldn't complain.

Right now, I can't take a deeper look into your problem. I'll try
after work. Hopefully, can support you much faster.


Bye,
Georg

Am 18.01.2012 um 09:21 schrieb Fabián
Rodríguezmagic...@member.fsf.org:


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On 2012-01-18 00:28, Georg Bretschneider wrote:

Hi Fabian,

please take a look into the SOGo documentation. There is an
example ldif
file shown for creating an ordinary user.
With the informations provided there you should be able to create
a user
using Webmin, too.

But it looks like you are having a general problem here. Take a
look
into this
conversation:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.groupware.sogo.user/8325

Bye
Georg


Georg,

My point here is I am using the Zero Effort Groupware version of
SOGo,
which is supposed to be, well, zero effort. I thought having a quick
demo with the ZEG virtual machine would work immediately, which
sadly
isn't the case.

If you look the documentation bit you mention, you'll notice it's a
cut
 paste of the admin bit, which is why I cloned the user via the web
interface. If such obvious assumptions don't work when
documentation is
missing, I am all for experimenting all the options, digging into
LDAP
and filing the bug reports but my context is different right now.

I have taken notes of what could be improved in the ZEG image, I'll
post
that next.

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Re: [SOGo] New here, question about email services/shared cal+addressbook in SOGo

2012-01-18 Thread Harry M. Aasterud

	
	Oops, my mistake. Sorry, hadnt read the Outlook docs. Came as far as the sogo admin install and config docs, and made my assumption based on the info available on the web site. But it is an indicator that tells us that many people read the web site back and forward to get their information. Important info like the one I didnt find could have been there, and not only in the downloadable pdfs... just my two cents...
	
	Sorry guys ;o), and Thanks Fabin for bringing this to my attention.
	

	On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 09:51 AM CET, Fabin Rodrguez magic...@member.fsf.org wrote:
	

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	[...]
	 Nowhere in the documentation it is written that the native Outlook
	 compatibility is only supported up to a certain degree due to missing
	 features.
	
	Its actually pretty clear in the documentation:
	
	The current version of the Native Microsoft Outlook compatibility layer
	has some limitations.
	
	Those limitations will be overcome in the upcoming beta. If you are
	interested in having those limitations fixed more rapidly, please
	contact Inverse by sending an email to supp...@inverse.ca.
	
	(page 14 of
	http://www.sogo.nu/files/docs/SOGo%20Native%20Microsoft%20Outlook%20Configuration.pdf
	at http://www.sogo.nu/downloads/documentation.html)
	
	Not sure if that doc was posted after b1 but it looks good.
	
	Having a PDF handy to forward to the Windows admins with an exact quote
	in 2 sentences, which also covers commercial support (pay if you cant
	wait) is as good as it gets.
	
	Great work, indeed.
	
	Cheers,
	
	F.
	
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RE: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector

2012-01-18 Thread Bartłomiej Kluska
Hi

one more time many thanks for such a load of information about Outlook 
compatibility in SOGo2 beta.

Regarding to this stated below (RPC for HTTPS, Outlook anywhere). I don't know 
if I got it right, so please confirm it once more.

Lack of Outlook anywhere functionality in the current beta of SOGo2 prevents 
it from being able to use it outside LAN?
What LAN means in this case, one, the same broadcast domain?
So I wouldn't be able to use it in example in routed corporate network?
Let's say I take the current SOGo2 and open it to Internet and assign to it a 
public domain. Will hosts with outlook clients located in the Internet be able 
to connect to this server as to Exchange server (like for example to IMAP)?

Regards,
Bartek



 -Original Message-
 From: Christian Mack [mailto:christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:15 AM
 To: users@sogo.nu
 Cc: Harry M. Aasterud
 Subject: Re: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector
 
 Absolutely correct.
 Kind regards,
 Christian Mack
 
 On 2012-01-17 17:55, Harry M. Aasterud wrote:
-cut-
  Outlook compatibility is still in beta. And even then it can only be
  used via LAN, not as a hosted solution where a local Outlook user
  connects to an external server over http(s) and synchronizes data from
  his local PC to the hosted server.
  Correct? Just to know what expectations to have, and what we can promise
  our users we can deliver ;o)
 
  Regards,
  Harry
-cut-
  For those who want to offer hosted native Outlook compatibility, the
  Outlook Anywhere (RPC over HTTP) protocol will have to be added first
  to the whole solution (mostly in Samba4).
 
  Regards,
  Ludovic Marcotte

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Re: [SOGo] Question about provisioning users in SOGo [SOLVED using LDAP+CLI]

2012-01-18 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
On 12-01-17 04:52 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 Hi,

 [...]
 The documentation [...] mentions using an LDIF file. I used the LDAP
 web admin to clone an existing user [at the top hierarchy, should have
 looked into people] yet it won't authenticate.


I managed to create a new valid user by using an LDIF file and command
line tools.

Here is my example LDIF file contents:

dn: uid=fab,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com
objectClass: top
objectClass: inetOrgPerson
objectClass: person
objectClass: organizationalPerson
uid: fab
cn: Fabian Rodriguez
mail: f...@example.com
sn: Fabian
givenName: Rodriguez

These two commands added the user and set it password to fab,
respectively:

$ ldapadd -f fab.ldif -x -w sogo -D cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com

$ ldappasswd -h localhost -x -w sogo -D cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com
uid=fab,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com -s fab

(the second command will wrap in this email but should be in one single
line)

$ above indicates I did this while logged in as sogo in the ZEG VM.
In the above example I am using default credentials for the admin user
(ie. user:admin, password:sogo).

I wish at some point an easy web GUI becomes part of the SOGo interface,
or perhaps documenting how to do this in minute detail via Webmin will
be enough.

Now on to some testing with Thunderbird.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my many questions (and messages)
since yesterday!

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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector

2012-01-18 Thread Christian Mack
On 2012-01-18 14:52, Bartłomiej Kluska wrote:
 Hi
 
 one more time many thanks for such a load of information about
 Outlook compatibility in SOGo2 beta.
 
 Regarding to this stated below (RPC for HTTPS, Outlook anywhere). I
 don't know if I got it right, so please confirm it once more.
 
 Lack of Outlook anywhere functionality in the current beta of SOGo2
 prevents it from being able to use it outside LAN? What LAN means in
 this case, one, the same broadcast domain? So I wouldn't be able to
 use it in example in routed corporate network? Let's say I take the
 current SOGo2 and open it to Internet and assign to it a public
 domain. Will hosts with outlook clients located in the Internet be
 able to connect to this server as to Exchange server (like for
 example to IMAP)?

It means you have to use RPC Port 135.
RPC isn't encrypted or secured in any way.
Believe me you don't want to open that Port to the internet.

What you could do is adding a VPN between your home user or branch
office and your SOGo server.
But that means you can't use Outlook from public machines e.g. in
internet cafes, as you must install and configure this VPN first.


Hope that clarified it a bit.


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector

2012-01-18 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 18/01/12 08:52, Bartłomiej Kluska wrote:

one more time many thanks for such a load of information about Outlook 
compatibility in SOGo2 beta.

Regarding to this stated below (RPC for HTTPS, Outlook anywhere). I don't know 
if I got it right, so please confirm it once more.

Lack of Outlook anywhere functionality in the current beta of SOGo2 prevents 
it from being able to use it outside LAN?
What LAN means in this case, one, the same broadcast domain?
So I wouldn't be able to use it in example in routed corporate network?
It would work in a routed network. It would even work if the server was 
exposed entirely on the Internet but of course, that's far from being a 
good practice.

Let's say I take the current SOGo2 and open it to Internet and assign to it a 
public domain. Will hosts with outlook clients located in the Internet be able 
to connect to this server as to Exchange server (like for example to IMAP)?
Yes but it would be very insecure and might not traverse firewalls well. 
For this, there is Outlook Anywhere, and it'll likely be our next big 
endeavor once we get the first end-user consumable version of our native 
Outlook compatibility layer out.


Thanks,

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RE: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector

2012-01-18 Thread Bartłomiej Kluska
I think I'm getting it. SOGo or Exchange server must be able to communicate 
with the client (eg Outlook) in order to push to it new emails, events etc.
In Internet, users rarely have public IP assigned to their computers and in 
case of NAT the SOGo server is not able to push anything to the client because 
it doesn't have the direct IP communication.
Outlook anywhere solves it by creating some kind of VPN between Outlook and the 
server.
Am I more or less right with this?

If yes, I assume that in this rare case when my notebook would have assigned a 
public Internet IP, I would be able to connect my Outlook to the 
Internet-exposed SOGo server and synchronize it (as with Exchange) but it would 
by simply very unsecure, right?

Regards,
BK



 -Original Message-
 From: Ludovic Marcotte [mailto:lmarco...@inverse.ca]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:56 PM
 To: users@sogo.nu
 Subject: Re: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector
 
 On 18/01/12 08:52, Bartłomiej Kluska wrote:
  one more time many thanks for such a load of information about Outlook 
  compatibility in SOGo2 beta.
 
  Regarding to this stated below (RPC for HTTPS, Outlook anywhere). I don't 
  know if I got it right, so please confirm it once more.
 
  Lack of Outlook anywhere functionality in the current beta of SOGo2 
  prevents it from being able to use it outside LAN?
  What LAN means in this case, one, the same broadcast domain?
  So I wouldn't be able to use it in example in routed corporate network?
 It would work in a routed network. It would even work if the server was
 exposed entirely on the Internet but of course, that's far from being a
 good practice.
  Let's say I take the current SOGo2 and open it to Internet and assign to it 
  a public domain. Will hosts with outlook clients located in the
 Internet be able to connect to this server as to Exchange server (like for 
 example to IMAP)?
 Yes but it would be very insecure and might not traverse firewalls well.
 For this, there is Outlook Anywhere, and it'll likely be our next big
 endeavor once we get the first end-user consumable version of our native
 Outlook compatibility layer out.
 
 Thanks,
 
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[SOGo] Alarms on Shared Calendars

2012-01-18 Thread Ben
If I set an alarm on an event on my main calendar, and another person is 
sharing my calendar (read only), my alarm alerts them of the event in 
addition to me. Is this intentional behavior? If so, is there a 
recommend way to change that / work around it? There are people who need 
to know when/what meetings I have, but they don't need to be reminded 
about the meeting (as they aren't invited).


Thanks,

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RE: [SOGo] Authentication using MySQL

2012-01-18 Thread Brian KREULEN
Thanks!

In the meantime, I'm trying to make things work on my own, and I've got an 
error message while connecting to Sogo that is a little wierd.

Here's the code (very basic):

HttpClient httpClient = new HttpClient();
Credentials credentials = new UsernamePasswordCredentials(brian, );

AuthScope as = new AuthScope(rd4-was7, 80);
httpClient.getState().setCredentials(as, credentials);
httpClient.getParams().setAuthenticationPreemptive(true);

HostConfiguration hostConfig = new HostConfiguration();
hostConfig.setHost(XXX);

GenerateQuery gq = new GenerateQuery();
gq.setComponent(VEVENT : UID, ATTENDEE, DTSTART, DTEND);

CalDAVCollection cdCollection = new CalDAVCollection(
/SOGo/dav/brian/Calendar/personal,
hostConfig,
new CalDAV4JMethodFactory(),
E-Deal_Prod
);

try {
ListCalendar rtrn = cdCollection.queryCalendars(httpClient, 
gq.generate());

// Parse the list
} catch (Exception e) {
// Blah, blah
}

The program seems to connect to Sogo, as I don't get any IO errors, but I still 
get the following error:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
body
h3
An error occurred during object publishing/h3p
Could not parse XML of WebDAV REPORT./p
/body
/html

I'm using CalDAV4J, if that helps at all.

Bien cordialement,

Brian KREULEN
E-DEAL



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De : Martin Rabl [mailto:martin.r...@rablnet.de] 
Envoyé : mardi 17 janvier 2012 21:24
À : users@sogo.nu
Objet : Re: [SOGo] Authentication using MySQL

Hi,

ok, I will make a bundle and put it online ASAP - I wrote on the list, when its 
ready, expected  end of next week.

Greetings,
   Martin

Am 17.01.12 19:54, schrieb Peter Peltonen:
 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Brian KREULENb.kreu...@e-deal.com  wrote:
 Would it be possible to get a copy of this web app? Or maybe some code 
 snippets? I'm having some difficulties accessing the calendar, and there 
 seems to be a lack of examples on the net Thanks in advance.

 +1

 I'd like to get my hands on this web app as well:

 I wrote an webapplication which retrieves all events of a week from all 
 users (current 30) and displays them in a week-calendar-like table.
 The events of every user are retrieved by CalDAV - runs quite good!

 Greetings,
 Martin Rabl

 Best,
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Re: [SOGo] Autocomplete question

2012-01-18 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
On 12-01-18 05:54 AM, Nicolas - Lileo wrote:
 Hi,

 When i'm inviting someone of my organisation to a event, the
 autocompletion is looking in all my addressbooks, but i only need him
 to look in my ldap directory (which contains only my collegue contacts).
 If in thunderbird i turn off the autocomplete search in local
 addressbook, i loose - of course - the autocompletion search in all my
 addressbooks, when i'm write a message.
 My question is :
 Is there a way to separate autocompletion between ldap directory
 search and local addressbook search?

 Thanks

 Thunderbird 3.1.17
 Sogo 1.3.11

I have the same question here, except the other way around: is it
possible to limit autocomplete to remote addressbooks (and exclude LDAP)
? I can't seem to enable autocomplete using a remote addressbook.

Thunderbird 3.1.17
Sogo (ZEG) 1.3.11

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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector

2012-01-18 Thread André Schild

Hello Bartlomiej,

Am 18.01.2012 17:28, schrieb Bartłomiej Kluska:

I think I'm getting it. SOGo or Exchange server must be able to communicate with the 
client (eg Outlook) in order to push to it new emails, events etc.
In Internet, users rarely have public IP assigned to their computers and in 
case of NAT the SOGo server is not able to push anything to the client because 
it doesn't have the direct IP communication.
Outlook anywhere solves it by creating some kind of VPN between Outlook and the 
server.
Am I more or less right with this?

If yes, I assume that in this rare case when my notebook would have assigned a 
public Internet IP, I would be able to connect my Outlook to the 
Internet-exposed SOGo server and synchronize it (as with Exchange) but it would 
by simply very unsecure, right?

Not completly correct

Normal communication between exchange and outlook is done via TCP Port 
135 in a completly unencrypted way.

So anyone can read/interfere the whole mails/events/contacts etc.
In private networks this is not so much a issue (but one could still 
capture data with whireshark etc.)


But as soon as your outlook client is connecting to your Exchange/Sogo 
server via Internet,

then plenty of others might be able to:

a) Read the unencrypted traffic
b) Do some unwanted things to your server on port 135

To prevent this, with Outlook 2003 and Windows XP SP2? MS did introduce 
the possibility to tunnel

the traffic between exchange and outlook in a https tunnel.
Thats what rpc-over-https means, and in previous outlook versions it was 
named that way,

now they call it outlook anywhere, but it's basically the same.

For sogo this means:

- You could safely use sogo+outlook in your corporate network.
- When you wish to connect to your corporate sogo server from the 
internet, then you will either have to open that port (tcp 135) or use 
some tunnel/vpn software, since samba4 is currently lacking the 
rpc-over-https feature.
- If you wish to host your sogo server on a public server, then your 
only hope for safety is to use a tunnel/vpn until rpc-over-https is 
implemented in samba4 and sogo (Personally I fear it will not be 
available this year)



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Re: [SOGo] Why not move from Funambol to Z-Push? Many features will be obtained.

2012-01-18 Thread Donny Brooks

On 1/18/2012 12:42 PM, Heiner Markert wrote:

Am Wednesday 18 January 2012 07:39:20 schrieb André Schild:

There already exists a sogo backend for Z-Push, a few posts ago is a
link for download.
I will try to make it better available, so we can work on improving it.

Hello André,

unfortunately I am unable to find a download link a few posts ago. Would you
mind to post the link again, if you have a link different from
http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/sogo/z-push/ ?

Best regards
Heiner


On January 9, 2012 I posted the link to the modified z-push we are 
running. I will repost it here too: 
http://www.mdah.state.ms.us/emailupload/uploads/sogosync.zip


Donny B.



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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Outlook connector

2012-01-18 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 18/01/12 12:49, André Schild wrote:
- If you wish to host your sogo server on a public server, then your 
only hope for safety is to use a tunnel/vpn until rpc-over-https is 
implemented in samba4 and sogo (Personally I fear it will not be 
available this year) 

I'm a bit more optimistic ;-)

The effort was evaluated to 3-6 weeks.

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Re: [SOGo] Why not move from Funambol to Z-Push? Many features will be obtained.

2012-01-18 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 18/01/12 01:39, André Schild wrote:
I don't see why we should drop SyncML support, it's working after all 
and a OPEN standard...
The Problem with Activesync stuff is always the potential license 
question, what if MS will start claim license violations by Z-Push 
(Justified or not does not matter) ?

I fully agree here about the licensing violation.
There already exists a sogo backend for Z-Push, a few posts ago is a 
link for download.

I will try to make it better available, so we can work on improving it.
We could also import it on our source repository. We did this a while 
ago from the connector developed by Philipp Kewisch, but he soon after 
abandoned its development.
The one big advantage I see of ActiveSync is, that you have only one 
setup to do for Email,Calendar,Contacts and Tasks and all traffic 
flows via HTTP(S)


There are several disadvantages of ActiveSync compared to native 
Cardav/Caldav support:

- Only ONE Calendar, Contacts and Tasks can be synched
- Only one ActiveSync account is possible
- Mail handling is very limited

Indeed but it should be compared with SyncML/Funambol, not CalDAV/CardDAV.

I would still very much like to open a discussion about this - ie., 
Funambol (SyncML) backend vs. Z-Push (ActiveSync) backend.


To offer a very good mobile experience, I feel we'll have to make a 
choice and focus our efforts into one or the other. We chose Funambol 
many years ago. It might have been a good choice back then but it 
doesn't mean it's still the best.


On my end (and speaking for myself only), there are some things I 
dislike about Funambol such as a worthless bug tracker, patches taking 
decades to get accepted (or even bugs getting acknowledged), Java-based 
(enough said here), requires more resources than all other SOGo 
components and requirements combined together and multiplied by your 
favorite factor of the day (must be greater than 2), almost impossible 
to package together with SOGo and more.


What I mostly fear about Z-Push is that we'll revisit all the device 
synchronization bugs we had over the past few years with Funambol/SyncML 
and we'll have to hack around like we did. This is very valuable time 
and know-how here. Getting the Z-Push connector up and running can be 
done in a snap, but refining it will take some time. Also, having the 
Sword of Damocles on top of my head regarding the licensing agreement 
doesn't make me a happy, happy, joy man.


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Re: [SOGo] Why not move from Funambol to Z-Push? Many features will be obtained.

2012-01-18 Thread Donny Brooks

On 1/18/2012 1:16 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:

On 18/01/12 01:39, André Schild wrote:
I don't see why we should drop SyncML support, it's working after all 
and a OPEN standard...
The Problem with Activesync stuff is always the potential license 
question, what if MS will start claim license violations by Z-Push 
(Justified or not does not matter) ?

I fully agree here about the licensing violation.
There already exists a sogo backend for Z-Push, a few posts ago is a 
link for download.

I will try to make it better available, so we can work on improving it.
We could also import it on our source repository. We did this a while 
ago from the connector developed by Philipp Kewisch, but he soon after 
abandoned its development.
The one big advantage I see of ActiveSync is, that you have only one 
setup to do for Email,Calendar,Contacts and Tasks and all traffic 
flows via HTTP(S)


There are several disadvantages of ActiveSync compared to native 
Cardav/Caldav support:

- Only ONE Calendar, Contacts and Tasks can be synched
- Only one ActiveSync account is possible
- Mail handling is very limited
Indeed but it should be compared with SyncML/Funambol, not 
CalDAV/CardDAV.


I would still very much like to open a discussion about this - ie., 
Funambol (SyncML) backend vs. Z-Push (ActiveSync) backend.


To offer a very good mobile experience, I feel we'll have to make a 
choice and focus our efforts into one or the other. We chose Funambol 
many years ago. It might have been a good choice back then but it 
doesn't mean it's still the best.


On my end (and speaking for myself only), there are some things I 
dislike about Funambol such as a worthless bug tracker, patches taking 
decades to get accepted (or even bugs getting acknowledged), 
Java-based (enough said here), requires more resources than all other 
SOGo components and requirements combined together and multiplied by 
your favorite factor of the day (must be greater than 2), almost 
impossible to package together with SOGo and more.


What I mostly fear about Z-Push is that we'll revisit all the device 
synchronization bugs we had over the past few years with 
Funambol/SyncML and we'll have to hack around like we did. This is 
very valuable time and know-how here. Getting the Z-Push connector up 
and running can be done in a snap, but refining it will take some 
time. Also, having the Sword of Damocles on top of my head regarding 
the licensing agreement doesn't make me a happy, happy, joy man.


The biggest selling point for the z-push style email for us was that we 
could run it on port 80/443 and was approved to pass through the state 
firewall. That and all apple and android phones already have clients for 
it without having to download something else.


Donny B.



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[SOGo] Thunderbird 10 (Extended Support release) release is on Jan 31st, beta available

2012-01-18 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
Hi,

I'd encourage any SOGo admins/users using Thunderbird and awaiting for
their release 10 (and corresponding updated SOGo extensions) to join the
tb-enterprise Google Group or mailing list (both are the same):
http://groups.google.com/group/tb-enterprise
https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-enterprise

Another beta for TB 10 will be available tomorrow so it's a great time
to report bugs there, and make sure TB 10 works, getting ready for next
SOGo versions. Having several SOGo users/testers there can only help the
SOGo project too. TB 10 target for release is Jan. 31st.

You may also be interested in these resources:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Enterprise
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Thunderbird/Modern_Address_Book

Cheers,

F.





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Re: [SOGo] Why not move from Funambol to Z-Push? Many features will be obtained.

2012-01-18 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:16:08PM -0500, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:
 I would still very much like to open a discussion about this - ie.,
 Funambol (SyncML) backend vs. Z-Push (ActiveSync) backend.

I'm struggeling with seeing why one would push Funambol/SyncML. It
requires 3. party agent on all phones (except nokia), and then one could
just as well use a 3. party caldav/carddav client.

While activesync is supported on all (?) phones, with single config for
mail/contacts/calendar. That's what we want!


 
 What I mostly fear about Z-Push is that we'll revisit all the device
 synchronization bugs we had over the past few years with
 Funambol/SyncML and we'll have to hack around like we did. This is
 very valuable time and know-how here. Getting the Z-Push connector
 up and running can be done in a snap, but refining it will take some
 time. Also, having the Sword of Damocles on top of my head regarding
 the licensing agreement doesn't make me a happy, happy, joy man.

Is z-push that much different of a threat than the Open^H^H^H^Hchange-
replacement you seem to be doing in v2.0 ? 


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Re: [SOGo] Why not move from Funambol to Z-Push? Many features will be obtained.

2012-01-18 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:14:38PM +0100, André Schild wrote:
 the licensing agreement doesn't make me a happy, happy, joy man.
 Is z-push that much different of a threat than the Open^H^H^H^Hchange-
 replacement you seem to be doing in v2.0 ?
 OpenChange has nothing to do with ActiveSync.
 
 OpenChange implements MAPI on the server, so (all) mapi compatible
 can talk to the server
 z-Push implements ActiveSync on the server, so all active sync
 clients can talk to the server

I see it as:

z-push implements microsofts proprietary ActiveSync protocol.
OpenChange implements microsofts proprietary MAPI protocol.


 The current z-push sogo backend uses CalDav/CardDav to access Sogo
 resources,
 the Funambol client directly accesses the database

Yes, I know. I tested the sogosync-version about a year ago, and it
looked like a very nice solution that could be run as a completely
separate service from the rest of sogo (pure caldav/carddav/imap-client). 

Funambol looked like a very intrusive solution, poking inside the sogo
database directly, having it's own userdatabase (if I remember correctly).
And probably introducing version dependencies between funambol server and
sogo server. I'd much rather push my users towards installing a 3. party
caldav/carddav client, and avoid the need for anything serverside.



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Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird 10 (Extended Support release) release is on Jan 31st, beta available

2012-01-18 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 18/01/12 15:50, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

I'd encourage any SOGo admins/users using Thunderbird and awaiting for
their release 10 (and corresponding updated SOGo extensions) to join the
tb-enterprise Google Group or mailing list (both are the same):
http://groups.google.com/group/tb-enterprise
https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-enterprise

Another beta for TB 10 will be available tomorrow so it's a great time
to report bugs there, and make sure TB 10 works, getting ready for next
SOGo versions. Having several SOGo users/testers there can only help the
SOGo project too. TB 10 target for release is Jan. 31st.

You may also be interested in these resources:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Enterprise
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Thunderbird/Modern_Address_Book

Regarding this, in order to validate the proper behavior of our ACL 
hooks (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586276), folks are 
required to install the attached extension. That code will eventually be 
included in SOGo Integrator once we go final on this for Thunderbird 
10/Lightning 1.2.


You also need to do one more thing to enable the ACL hooks on your SOGo 
Calendars. Once you've installed the extension, quit Thunderbird. Edit 
the prefs.js manually and add something like:


user_pref(calendar.registry.42a2ce67-bafe-034d-8ff0-2db8c266faad.aclManagerClass, 
@inverse.ca/calendar/caldav-acl-manager;1);


Where 42a2ce67-bafe-034d-8ff0-2db8c266faad is the GUID of your SOGo 
calendar as defined by Lightning. Do a grep 'calendar.registry' 
prefs.js | grep uri to see the list you have. Then, start Thunderbird.


This will also be included in SOGo Integrator at some point.

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Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird 10 (Extended Support release) release is on Jan 31st, beta available

2012-01-18 Thread Martin Seener
btw TB10b3 just told me he cannot install your ACL Extension you send 
around with your last mail since its not compatible with TB10b3!?


On 1/18/12 10:49 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:

On 18/01/12 15:50, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

I'd encourage any SOGo admins/users using Thunderbird and awaiting for
their release 10 (and corresponding updated SOGo extensions) to join the
tb-enterprise Google Group or mailing list (both are the same):
http://groups.google.com/group/tb-enterprise
https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-enterprise

Another beta for TB 10 will be available tomorrow so it's a great time
to report bugs there, and make sure TB 10 works, getting ready for next
SOGo versions. Having several SOGo users/testers there can only help the
SOGo project too. TB 10 target for release is Jan. 31st.

You may also be interested in these resources:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Enterprise
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Thunderbird/Modern_Address_Book

Regarding this, in order to validate the proper behavior of our ACL 
hooks (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586276), folks 
are required to install the attached extension. That code will 
eventually be included in SOGo Integrator once we go final on this for 
Thunderbird 10/Lightning 1.2.


You also need to do one more thing to enable the ACL hooks on your 
SOGo Calendars. Once you've installed the extension, quit 
Thunderbird. Edit the prefs.js manually and add something like:


user_pref(calendar.registry.42a2ce67-bafe-034d-8ff0-2db8c266faad.aclManagerClass, 
@inverse.ca/calendar/caldav-acl-manager;1);


Where 42a2ce67-bafe-034d-8ff0-2db8c266faad is the GUID of your SOGo 
calendar as defined by Lightning. Do a grep 'calendar.registry' 
prefs.js | grep uri to see the list you have. Then, start Thunderbird.


This will also be included in SOGo Integrator at some point.



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Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird 10 (Extended Support release) release is on Jan 31st, beta available

2012-01-18 Thread Mirko Stoffers

On 01/18/2012 04:49 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:

On 18/01/12 15:50, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

I'd encourage any SOGo admins/users using Thunderbird and awaiting for
their release 10 (and corresponding updated SOGo extensions) to join the
tb-enterprise Google Group or mailing list (both are the same):
http://groups.google.com/group/tb-enterprise
https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-enterprise

Another beta for TB 10 will be available tomorrow so it's a great time
to report bugs there, and make sure TB 10 works, getting ready for next
SOGo versions. Having several SOGo users/testers there can only help the
SOGo project too. TB 10 target for release is Jan. 31st.

You may also be interested in these resources:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Enterprise
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Thunderbird/Modern_Address_Book


Regarding this, in order to validate the proper behavior of our ACL hooks
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586276), folks are required to 
install the
attached extension. That code will eventually be included in SOGo Integrator 
once we go
final on this for Thunderbird 10/Lightning 1.2.

You also need to do one more thing to enable the ACL hooks on your SOGo 
Calendars. Once
you've installed the extension, quit Thunderbird. Edit the prefs.js manually 
and add
something like:

user_pref(calendar.registry.42a2ce67-bafe-034d-8ff0-2db8c266faad.aclManagerClass,
@inverse.ca/calendar/caldav-acl-manager;1);

Where 42a2ce67-bafe-034d-8ff0-2db8c266faad is the GUID of your SOGo calendar 
as defined by
Lightning. Do a grep 'calendar.registry' prefs.js | grep uri to see the list 
you have.
Then, start Thunderbird.

This will also be included in SOGo Integrator at some point.



Maybe, I'm just too blind... Where are the connector and integrator extensions 
for TB 10?
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[SOGo] BTS activities for Wednesday, January 18 2012

2012-01-18 Thread SOGo reporter
Title: BTS activities for Wednesday, January 18 2012





  
BTS Activities

  Home page: http://www.sogo.nu/bugs
  Project: SOGo
  For the period covering: Wednesday, January 18 2012

  
  
idlast updatestatus (resolution)categorysummary
	
	
	  
	
1582
	2012-01-18 20:48:53
	new (open)
	sogo-tool
	SOGoLDAPUserDefaults.m issues
	
	  
	
1583
	2012-01-18 21:11:14
	new (open)
	sogo-tool
	Uncaught exception NSInternalInconsistencyException, reason: Class posing is not supported
	
	  
	
1466
	2012-01-18 10:20:01
	updated (open)
	Web Mail
	Reply Email formatting issue
	
	  
	
1553
	2012-01-18 06:28:27
	updated (open)
	Web Mail
	Email from opera is displayed as attachment
	
	  
	
1581
	2012-01-18 10:01:46
	updated (open)
	Web Mail
	"text/html" content type is not handled correctly by SOGO webmail UI, message shows as empty however there are text
	
	  
	
1580
	2012-01-18 16:18:06
	resolved (open)
	sogo-tool
	SOGO Compile Fatal Error