By Pass the rendering strategie and set the HTTP return code
Hi all, I've got a public website on which I fight against spammer. In the case of a form submit by a spamer, I would like to return a basic response with an error code 500 (I hope that the tools used by spamer check the return code to optimize the list of sites they spam). I don't find where and how to do that. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks, Gaetan,
Re: By Pass the rendering strategie and set the HTTP return code
This is actually the easiest way. No control on the rendering but a good 500 code status. Thanks, 2013/1/9 francois meillet francois.meil...@gmail.com throw new AbortWithHttpErrorCodeException(HttpServletResponse.SC_INTERNAL_SERVER_ERROR)
Using AutocompleteTextField with database entries (without a converter)
Hello, I don't know what is the best way of impleting that in Wicket That's my use case: - the user has to select a customer in a field of a form, - he starts to type some characters, - the list shows some possibilities based on a database request using the first and last names, the email, ... - then he selects one item in the list, - the field just shows few informations (Last Name for exemple). I don't want to use a converter because the data in the field could eventually match more than one entry in the database. I can give more context in the list to make the user be sure of his selection. When the selection is made, I can put a title so that on a mouse over event the user visualize the full information on the customer selection. The best solution would be to use the database id of the customer as a key during the selection phase. I don't know what is the best way of implementing this behaviour. Thanks a lot for any ideas, Gaetan,
Re: Using AutocompleteTextField with database entries (without a converter)
Thanks for the input. I'm going to have a look. Gaetan 2012/10/24 Paul Bors p...@bors.ws Take a look at Select2 developed by Ivan Vaynberg one of Wicket's contributors: http://ivaynberg.github.com/select2/ You should try out the Loading Remote Data and Infinite Scroll with Remote Data examples. Thanks Ivan for a great job! ~ Thank you, Paul Bors -Original Message- From: Gaetan Zoritchak [mailto:g.zoritc...@moncoachfinance.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:39 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Using AutocompleteTextField with database entries (without a converter) Hello, I don't know what is the best way of impleting that in Wicket That's my use case: - the user has to select a customer in a field of a form, - he starts to type some characters, - the list shows some possibilities based on a database request using the first and last names, the email, ... - then he selects one item in the list, - the field just shows few informations (Last Name for exemple). I don't want to use a converter because the data in the field could eventually match more than one entry in the database. I can give more context in the list to make the user be sure of his selection. When the selection is made, I can put a title so that on a mouse over event the user visualize the full information on the customer selection. The best solution would be to use the database id of the customer as a key during the selection phase. I don't know what is the best way of implementing this behaviour. Thanks a lot for any ideas, Gaetan, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Using Autocomplete with a
Hi, I want to have a behavior similar to AutoCompleteTextField but without the conversion. That's my use case: - the user has to select a customer in a field, - he starts to type some characters, - the list shows some possibilities based on a database request using the first and last names, the email, ... - then he selects one item in the list. I don't want to use a converter because the data in the field could eventually match more than one entry in the database. I can give more context in the list to make the user be sure of his selection. When the selection is made, I can put a title so that on a mouse over event the user visualize the full information on the customer selection. The best solution would be to use the database id of the customer as a key during the selection phase. I don't know what is the best way of implementing this behaviour. Thanks a lot for any ideas, Gaetan,
Bookmarkablepagelink with anchor
Hi all, I wanted to make a link on a Bookmarkablepage with an anchor. I didn't find how to do it. The link has a setAnchor(Component) method but it can't be that because the targeted anchor does not exist yet. My hope was that the method would take a String as parameter: myLink.setAnchor(#8765); What is the best way of doing it under wicket 1.5.x? Thanks,
Re: Bookmarkablepagelink with anchor
Thanks for the tip. It was simple... I must be very tired. Regards, Gaetan, 2012/5/15 Alexander Cherednichenko lex...@gmail.com Hi! For this case we have subclassed protected CharSequence getURL() which is in BookmarkablePageLink. And - we just append anchor to it while passing it in the constructor or even model to the BookmarkablePageLink. In the override we call super.getURL() and then append an anchor. I see pretty much the same logic in some inner class of AutoLinkResolver -- so we are on the right way :) Regards, Alex. 2012/5/15 Gaetan Zoritchak g.zoritc...@moncoachfinance.com Hi all, I wanted to make a link on a Bookmarkablepage with an anchor. I didn't find how to do it. The link has a setAnchor(Component) method but it can't be that because the targeted anchor does not exist yet. My hope was that the method would take a String as parameter: myLink.setAnchor(#8765); What is the best way of doing it under wicket 1.5.x? Thanks, -- Alexander Cherednichenko [ the only way out is the way up ]
Injection in a Resource
Hi all, I use guice in my applications. I need to inject some code (service) in a DynamicImageResource. It is not straightforward because a Resource is not a component. Does anybody has already done that? What would be the best way? Thanks in advance,
Re: Injection in a Resource
Thanks for that quick answer. 2012/2/7 Carl-Eric Menzel cmen...@wicketbuch.de On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 16:08:37 +0100 Gaetan Zoritchak g.zoritc...@moncoachfinance.com wrote: Hi all, I use guice in my applications. I need to inject some code (service) in a DynamicImageResource. It is not straightforward because a Resource is not a component. Does anybody has already done that? What would be the best way? You can call the Injector directly in your constructor: Injector.get().inject(this); The effect is the same as in Components: It will inject all your annotated fields. Carl-Eric www.wicketbuch.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Access Denied with AjaxEditableLabel ant AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel under chrome and safari #wicket1.5
I had this problem during the migration from wicket 1.4 to wicket 1.5
The problems occurs under chrome, safari and wicket 1.5
Scenario with an AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel :
1. The user puts the focus on the AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel and edit the
field.
2. Without focusing out of the editable label, the user clicks on another
tab of chrome.
= coming back to the first tab, the browser shows an Access Denied Page.
The log shows the warn :
WARN - RequestListenerInterface - behavior not enabled; ignore call.
Behavior
org.apache.wicket.extensions.ajax.markup.html.AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel$5@18fa85at
component [ [Component id = editor]]
At that time, Martin proposed me a first workaround :
http://markmail.org/message/uyjns2njjpo22xoj#query:+page:1+mid:laq7whb4urciyz6n+state:results
The problem appeared again because of my migration to wicket 1.5.3.
I tried to further analyze the problem. It seems that the AJAX call is
done 2 times.
When the user switches tabs chrome, the updating of the html triggers
another onblur event and a new ajax call:
Wicket.replaceOuterHtmlSafari = function(element, text) {
// if we are replacing a single script element
if (element.tagName == SCRIPT) {
// create temporal div and add script as inner HTML
var tempDiv = document.createElement(div);
tempDiv.innerHTML = text;
// try to get script content
var script = tempDiv.childNodes[0].innerHTML;
if (typeof(script) != string) {
script = tempDiv.childNodes[0].text;
}
element.outerHTML = text; Trigger another blur event when the user
has already changed of tab.
try {
eval(script);
} catch (e) {
Wicket.Log.error(Wicket.replaceOuterHtmlSafari: + e + : eval - +
script);
}
return;
}...
As I'm not a javascript expert, does anybody know how to correct the
problem in javascript instead of using a workaround?
Thanks,
Gaetan,
Re: Apache Wicket is a Flawed Framework
I didn't have a look one the wicket books for quite while. Good you told us. I orderered yours yesterday on Amazon. :) 2011/11/18 Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com * there are three books written about wicket: two for beginners and one for intermediate-advanced users. * there is a searchable mailing list archive that spans years upon years of users asking questions and getting answers. * there is a wiki that lists examples and has some good articles. * there is stack overflow questions and answers. is there an answer to every single possible question out there? of course not. no framework has that. look at projects like spring and hibernate. do those have great documentation? i bet you would say yes. are their mailing lists any less busy than our own? no. so what does that say? if i had to make up a number i would say that armed with the resources i listed you would be able to answer about 80% of your own questions. and i think that is a pretty good number. there is a very active user list to help you answer questions you cant answer yourself, usually faster then a commercial support contract. for free. not too shabby. -igor On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Gaetan Zoritchak g.zoritc...@moncoachfinance.com wrote: I must admit that I agree with you. While I think Wicket is a great framework, the documentation is not up to par. This tool seems a little too elitist. If you're strong enough you will find a great framework. It's a shame because even if the mailing list is very effective it slows down the adoption of wicket. 2011/11/17 geraldkw geral...@gmail.com This is not an april fool's day, it is just an opinion of an inexperienced developer. This illustrates one of the traditional logical fallacies. If you can't effectively attack the argument, attack the speaker. My biggest problem with Wicket is that I haven't found any documentation on the web that really lets me get a solid grasp on the key concepts. I read a lot of poorly written documentation, weak examples and forum posts dealing with something that is only vaguely related to my goals, maybe learn a fragment of useful info, and then suffer while trying to apply it. I haven't looked a Wicket in Action or other Wicket Books, but I have not heard good things. Also, this is the Internet Age and this is web programming. I have no problem finding documentation on other web programming languages/frameworks like I do with Wicket. If I am wrong, point me to some solid learning materials, and you stand a chance of changing my mind. geraldkw -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Wicket-is-a-Flawed-Framework-tp4080411p4081206.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Apache Wicket is a Flawed Framework
Super cool list, thanks a lot. 2011/11/18 robert.mcguinness robert.mcguinness@gmail.com i'm baffled when people say the documentation is poor, the javadocs are excellent and like igor said there are some great books (blogs too!). books and blogs get outdated fast since technlogy is rapidly advancing, so *use the source luke!*. Not only will you learn Wicket, but I guarantee your Java skills will improve. awesome examples: https://github.com/apache/wicket https://github.com/apache/wicket (scan over the unit test, best way to learn any framework not just wicket) https://github.com/55minutes/fiftyfive-wicket https://github.com/55minutes/fiftyfive-wicket (fantastic) https://github.com/42Lines https://github.com/42Lines https://github.com/wicketstuff/core https://github.com/wicketstuff/core (a gem, tons of examples on how to pretty much do anything) http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/checkout http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/checkout https://github.com/jolira/wicket-stateless https://github.com/jolira/wicket-stateless (wicket stateless is excellent, even easier with wicket 1.5) https://github.com/reaktor/oegyscroll https://github.com/reaktor/oegyscroll (endless pagination) http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/browse/core http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/browse/core (jquery) http://code.google.com/p/jqwicket/source/browse/ http://code.google.com/p/jqwicket/source/browse/ (jquery, learn from the code and roll your own if it doesn't fit your needs, super easy https://github.com/rjnichols/visural-wicket https://github.com/rjnichols/visural-wicket (great ui tools) https://xaloon.googlecode.com/svn/ https://xaloon.googlecode.com/svn/ (excellent!) rob -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Wicket-is-a-Flawed-Framework-tp4080411p4082034.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Apache Wicket is a Flawed Framework
I started with the book wicket in action so it was ok. Before choosing a technology I look at the number of existing books and I buy the best one. But I'm not sure that every body does like me. My main problem is the wiki. The pages are often very old explaining things that do not apply with the last version of wicket and the wiki si so slow that I can't imagine working on it to update the pages :( 2011/11/18 robert.mcguinness robert.mcguinness@gmail.com i'm baffled when people say the documentation is poor, the javadocs are excellent and like igor said there are some great books (blogs too!). books and blogs get outdated fast since technlogy is rapidly advancing, so *use the source luke!*. Not only will you learn Wicket, but I guarantee your Java skills will improve. awesome examples: https://github.com/apache/wicket https://github.com/apache/wicket (scan over the unit test, best way to learn any framework not just wicket) https://github.com/55minutes/fiftyfive-wicket https://github.com/55minutes/fiftyfive-wicket (fantastic) https://github.com/42Lines https://github.com/42Lines https://github.com/wicketstuff/core https://github.com/wicketstuff/core (a gem, tons of examples on how to pretty much do anything) http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/checkout http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/checkout https://github.com/jolira/wicket-stateless https://github.com/jolira/wicket-stateless (wicket stateless is excellent, even easier with wicket 1.5) https://github.com/reaktor/oegyscroll https://github.com/reaktor/oegyscroll (endless pagination) http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/browse/core http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/browse/core (jquery) http://code.google.com/p/jqwicket/source/browse/ http://code.google.com/p/jqwicket/source/browse/ (jquery, learn from the code and roll your own if it doesn't fit your needs, super easy https://github.com/rjnichols/visural-wicket https://github.com/rjnichols/visural-wicket (great ui tools) https://xaloon.googlecode.com/svn/ https://xaloon.googlecode.com/svn/ (excellent!) rob -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Wicket-is-a-Flawed-Framework-tp4080411p4082034.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Apache Wicket is a Flawed Framework
The Play Framework has the right idea: stateless and restful. No clunky components and over-engineered objected-oriented baggage. Play has some advantages but also shortcomings and presents significant risks. The transition from version 1 to version 2 will require re-writing the code. No migration possible! The new version seems to focus on scala (the views are now coded in scala instead of groovy). The business code can be in java and scala. What will happen to the java version in 2 years? Play's vision is a fully integrated technology stack with fairly fixed choices (JPA data access for java, Anorm - single layer over jdbc - for scala). This is not the approach of wicket which is much more modular and simply treat the presentation layer. In short, there is no silver bullet ... just find the framework that best meets your needs.
Re: Apache Wicket is a Flawed Framework
I must admit that I agree with you. While I think Wicket is a great framework, the documentation is not up to par. This tool seems a little too elitist. If you're strong enough you will find a great framework. It's a shame because even if the mailing list is very effective it slows down the adoption of wicket. 2011/11/17 geraldkw geral...@gmail.com This is not an april fool's day, it is just an opinion of an inexperienced developer. This illustrates one of the traditional logical fallacies. If you can't effectively attack the argument, attack the speaker. My biggest problem with Wicket is that I haven't found any documentation on the web that really lets me get a solid grasp on the key concepts. I read a lot of poorly written documentation, weak examples and forum posts dealing with something that is only vaguely related to my goals, maybe learn a fragment of useful info, and then suffer while trying to apply it. I haven't looked a Wicket in Action or other Wicket Books, but I have not heard good things. Also, this is the Internet Age and this is web programming. I have no problem finding documentation on other web programming languages/frameworks like I do with Wicket. If I am wrong, point me to some solid learning materials, and you stand a chance of changing my mind. geraldkw -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Wicket-is-a-Flawed-Framework-tp4080411p4081206.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Access Denied with AjaxEditableLabel ant AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel under chrome and safari #wicket1.5
So is it a bug or a regression (because it was working on W1.4)? Even, if the event is fired when leaving the tab, I don't understand why the server reacts differently. How can it knows that the component isn't visible anymoree??? Should I drop all these widget from my app? We use them a lot in my backoffice app. Gaetan, 2011/10/19 Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org Hi, The EditableLabel's editor (the text field/area) saves the value on 'blur' event. It is interesting when this event is fired - when the user leaves the first tab or when she comes back. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Gaetan Zoritchak g.zoritc...@moncoachfinance.com wrote: The problems occurs under chrome, safari and wicket 1.5. Scenario with an AjaxEditableLabel : 1. The user puts the focus on the AjaxEditableLabel and edit the field. 2. Without focusing out of the editable label, the user clicks on another tab of chrome. = the value is not put in the model. Scenario with an AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel : 1. The user puts the focus on the AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel and edit the field. 2. Without focusing out of the editable label, the user clicks on another tab of chrome. = coming back to the first tab, the browser shows an Access Denied Page. The log shows the warn : WARN - RequestListenerInterface - behavior not enabled; ignore call. Behavior org.apache.wicket.extensions.ajax.markup.html.AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel$5@18fa85 at component [ [Component id = editor]] After some debugs it appears that under chrome the call on isVisibleInHierarchie() returns false. These scenario were ok with wicket 1.4 Gaetan, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Access Denied with AjaxEditableLabel ant AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel under chrome and safari #wicket1.5
Thank you, It's working but the code is quite ugly (lot of duplication just to override the canCallListenerInterface() ). I still doesn't understand how wicket is able to know that the component is not visible in the browser. Furthermore, I find problematic the fact that the behavior depends on the browser implementation. Gaetan, 2011/10/20 Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org There is an improvement in Wicket 1.5 to not allow execution of invisible component or even worse on disabled behavior for security reasons. It is possible to extend AjaxEditableLabel and configure it to allow such executions. Override org.apache.wicket.extensions.ajax.markup.html.AjaxEditableLabel.newEditor(MarkupContainer, String, IModelT) and instead of adding org.apache.wicket.extensions.ajax.markup.html.AjaxEditableLabel.EditorAjaxBehavior you'll have to extend that Behavior and override its org.apache.wicket.behavior.Behavior.canCallListenerInterface(Component) On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Gaetan Zoritchak g.zoritc...@moncoachfinance.com wrote: So is it a bug or a regression (because it was working on W1.4)? Even, if the event is fired when leaving the tab, I don't understand why the server reacts differently. How can it knows that the component isn't visible anymoree??? Should I drop all these widget from my app? We use them a lot in my backoffice app. Gaetan, 2011/10/19 Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org Hi, The EditableLabel's editor (the text field/area) saves the value on 'blur' event. It is interesting when this event is fired - when the user leaves the first tab or when she comes back. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Gaetan Zoritchak g.zoritc...@moncoachfinance.com wrote: The problems occurs under chrome, safari and wicket 1.5. Scenario with an AjaxEditableLabel : 1. The user puts the focus on the AjaxEditableLabel and edit the field. 2. Without focusing out of the editable label, the user clicks on another tab of chrome. = the value is not put in the model. Scenario with an AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel : 1. The user puts the focus on the AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel and edit the field. 2. Without focusing out of the editable label, the user clicks on another tab of chrome. = coming back to the first tab, the browser shows an Access Denied Page. The log shows the warn : WARN - RequestListenerInterface - behavior not enabled; ignore call. Behavior org.apache.wicket.extensions.ajax.markup.html.AjaxEditableMultiLineLabel$5@18fa85 at component [ [Component id = editor]] After some debugs it appears that under chrome the call on isVisibleInHierarchie() returns false. These scenario were ok with wicket 1.4 Gaetan, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Removing jsessionid in wicket 1.5
Thanks it's working. That is simpler than what I thought but I didn't fully
understand the new request engine.
I updated the wiki.
By the way, the redirection is another important point for SEO optimization
with wicket 1.5. Wicket should never perform a redirect when a robot ask for
a page as it can't follow the redirect.
I resolved it using a SEORequestMapper that delegates to the systemMapper
for all request except is the user-agent is a bot. In that case I block the
redirect.
Do you think, it's the good solution?
public class SEORequestMapper implements IRequestMapper {
private final IRequestMapper delegate;
public SEORequestMapper(IRequestMapper delegate) {
this.delegate = delegate;
}
public IRequestHandler mapRequest(Request request) {
IRequestHandler requestHandler = delegate.mapRequest(request);
BotUtil botUtil = new BotUtil();
if(botUtil.isBotAgent() requestHandler instanceof
IPageRequestHandler) {
IPageClassRequestHandler handler = (IPageRequestHandler)
requestHandler;
return renderPageWithoutRedirect(handler.getPageClass(),
handler.getPageParameters());
}
return requestHandler;
}
private IRequestHandler renderPageWithoutRedirect(Class? extends
IRequestablePage pageClass, PageParameters pageParameters) {
PageProvider pageProvider = new PageProvider(pageClass,
pageParameters);
pageProvider.setPageSource(Application.get().getMapperContext());
return new RenderPageRequestHandler(pageProvider,
RenderPageRequestHandler.RedirectPolicy.NEVER_REDIRECT);
}
... delegation of other methods.
2011/10/11 Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org
protected WebResponse newWebResponse(final WebRequest
webRequest, final HttpServletResponse httpServletResponse){
return
new ServletWebResponse((ServletWebRequest)webRequest,
httpServletResponse) {
@Override
public String encodeURL(CharSequence url)
{
final String agent = webRequest.getHeader(User-Agent);
return isAgent(agent) ? url : super.encodeURL(url);
}
};}
Please update the wiki page if that works.
Thanks!
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Gaetan Zoritchak
g.zoritc...@moncoachfinance.com wrote:
Hi,
Removing the jsessionid for scrawling robots is important to avoid the
duplicate content problem.
The solution proposed in the wiki
https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/seo-search-engine-optimization.html is
not
working anymore. Does anyone knows the new way of doing it in wicket 1.5?
Thanks in advance,
Gaetan,
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Hi, Removing the jsessionid for scrawling robots is important to avoid the duplicate content problem. The solution proposed in the wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/seo-search-engine-optimization.html is not working anymore. Does anyone knows the new way of doing it in wicket 1.5? Thanks in advance, Gaetan,
Re: Community tools
2011/10/7 Clint Checketts checke...@gmail.com So what is the best way (official? permanent?) to link to a previous response? In 6 months when someone has a similar question, what is the official way to link to previous answers? Equally, what is the best way to improve those answers if the answer 6 months back worked at that time, but now is invalid and a 'bad practice' due to wicket improvements? That is part of the problem. On the wiki, the pages are not tagged WICKET-1.4 or WICKET-1.5 so you don't know if you can use them. Is's the same with mail. The avantage with a QA tool is that you tag, rename and edit the question and the answers. At the end you have a good question with the best answer and no duplicates. When you search something you just have to look at the tags to know if you can use the answer. Folks so rarely use the mailing list archives ( http://wicket.apache.org/help/email.html), (not easily searched!) I doubt that is the solution. -Clint On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 7:32 AM, manuelbarzi manuelba...@gmail.com wrote: it sounds great, but why not fully concentrate on wicket. apache will adopt whatever magic-solution asa it'll be licence compliant, and affordable by resources and directives. for the moment this mailing list has been a very successful machine, and still has much to bring. outside, whatever wrapper (wicket-based or not, may be assembled to pull all posts, order and make them as far confortable-searcheable as low-patience eager-brains demand). as other expressed: markmail and nabble are pretty enough, and managing issues by mail - on smart or not phones - is simply a pleasure. .
Re: Community tools
I fully understand the risk of relying on an external and uncontrolled party. The best of breed solution would be to have SO like a Q A for wicket based on an open source implementation like Bert mentionned. For the mailing list, I think the advantage of reading the messages on his phone is less important than the gate of a partially closed system that requires a subscription by email. See on http://softwareandsilicon.com/chapter:2 # toc2 - Freedom of Access and - Weak Group Identity Markmail: The traffic is constantly increasing from 1999 until late 2009 early 2010 before being reduced significantly. I think the reason is due to the tool a little bit old. Even if the interface allows to search for messages, ergonomics and the quality of responses is not equivalent to what is available on intenet today. My point is not to criticize but to point out that this is negative for the adoption of wicket. Today when I choose a technology for a project, even though I prefer Wicket for its design, I have to sell the framework to a team that does not necessarily find it very sexy. Gaetan 2011/10/7 Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com The biggest issue with moving to Stack Overflow is that we deliver our community to an external party which can do anything with the questions, show stupid ads, etc. Have no mistake: stack exchange is a commercial venture. So one criterium is to be able to pull the plug on it whenever it goes sour. While the content of stack overflow is publicly available, it is not licensed with an Apache friendly license (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/). This issue was the biggest hurdle SO needs to take to become a viable alternative for the user list at Apache. As for this list not being visible, you can always shop around for list archive providers. Nabble has a nice forum like interface, Mark mail provides awesome search tooling. Martijn On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Bert taser...@gmail.com wrote: I had a discussion about this with martin dashorst when we meet this year at a conference. Apparently, he does like the idea of a SO like QA site for wicket. But wicket being an Apache project, there are certain requirement if i recall our discussion correctly. One of the problems is the hosting of such a side. The mailing list, bugtracker, wicki,... are all hosted and maintained by the apache admins. Getting a new tool into there is not easy. One could host a solution outside of apache, but this opens questions about long term support of the infrastructure, privacy issues and so forth. There are a few opensource implementations available: http://gitorious.org/shapado (used by debian at http://ask.debian.net/) http://www.osqa.net/ I do like the SO style (never been a fan of mailing lists), but on the other side registering here is not much of a hassle. My 2 cent Bert On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:25, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: I like the mail. Atleast i can get the answers even on my not so smart phone. Josh. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Chris Colman chr...@stepaheadsoftware.comwrote: Source management and bugs are also outdated. The version on github is much better. I recently had to get up to speed with github. Not sure what all the fuss is about. The learning curve was about 20x that of Subversion and I'm still not confident about how to do things or whether what I'm doing is the 'right' thing to be doing. Subversion on the other hand is really easy to understand (and most developers already know it) and even though it has 'theoretical' shortcomings compared to a distributed VCS like git in practice I never saw any difference in performance or usage apart from git being a lot 'weirder' ;) My 2 cents, Gaetan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Community tools
First of all, I love wicket. I think it's a very effective framework, with an active community. But ... I regret that some tools reduce its visibility. I think, in particular, the mode of exchange based on a mailing list is quite outdated. This mailing list which requires subscription limits the number of participants. Moreover, research on old messages are poorly referenced. I have recently experienced it one more time during the migration of my project on Wicket 1.5. The solution to my problem has already been discussed and resolved but it took me a long time to find it. Why not drop this mailing list and discuss all questions onStackOverflow. The business community would be more visible. Source management and bugs are also outdated. The version on github is much better. My 2 cents, Gaetan
Re: Community tools
Heh. You just said we have a very active community. While I do like Stack Overflow for many things, it's not a true way of building a community. It's a way of asking questions. (Yes, this is just my opinion - not meaning to start a flamewar). We have a vibrant community here - I don't think the mailing list is limiting the community. I think but it's just an opinion, that the need of subscribe to a mailing list is a little barrier. Some people won't do the effort which means less interactions. Plus, mailing lists are still THE way to communicate in open source. Especially is this true with Apache projects. Moreover, research on old messages are poorly referenced. I have recently experienced it one more time during the migration of my project on Wicket 1.5. The solution to my problem has already been discussed and resolved but it took me a long time to find it. Why not drop this mailing list and discuss all questions onStackOverflow. The business community would be more visible. How can we quantify such a statement? If you can provide some kind of proof that it's easier to find an answer by searching SO rather than mailing list archives, we could look into alternatives. But such a statement just isn't easily (if at all) quantifiable. Difficult to quantify but the nable mailing list is flat. There no way for google to know which question is more important. For the reader it's not very obvious neither. In a system like StackOverflow, the votes on questions, on answers, the use of comments rather than answer allow the filtering of the noise. I think the links beetween questions take the votes in count and as a result google shows you rapidly the best question/answer. Moreover when you are reading a question, you see the other questions in relation. I don't exactly how SO works but I find it very very efficient for me (not for wicket questions ;) ) Source management and bugs are also outdated. The version on github is much better. Github is awesome. I don't care about the issue management on it. JIRA has a ton more features and support. It works for us. I think that we would like to move to git at some point - but it's not (yet) supported for all projects at the ASF. There is a public beta running of git for one project at the ASF right now. If it succeeds, I think we'll be one of the first projects to switch as soon as they make it available to all projects. Good news. Thanks! Hope to see you around this antiquated mailing list :) :) Of course!!!
Re: updating page version after an ajax request
I'm waiting for a long time for the resolution of this bug wich is very important in regards on the use of Ajax nowadays. Unfortunately, the resolution has always been delayed and I don't know enough Wicket to try to resolve it. :( 2010/9/17 Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com hello, Is there a way of updating the page version after an ajax request in order to support the back button for a 100% component based application (i.e an application based on a single page)? i think my question is related to this https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-271. Has any of the 1.5 milestones implemented this? kind regards. Josh
Wicket Pattern to reduce session size
Hi all, I was debugging my sessions size in order to reduce it and I saw that one of my page spend 20ko because of an dynamic image generated with JFreeChart. JFreeChart was serialized with my DynamicImageRessource. My first optimisation is to make JFreeChart a static field initialized in a static bloc. Is it an valid way of handling that problem? Gaetan Zoritchak,
Re: Wicket Pattern to reduce session size
In fact, I just put the reference to JFreeChart as static. All the commons values are initialized in the static bloc (ie, Font, definition on the axis, ...). I keep the image generation done in the getImageData using the pageParameters. So every session or even page request can have its own version on the graph. 2010/1/28 Pedro Santos pedros...@gmail.com Then this image will to be the same for all sessions. If you don't want that object on your session, make sure at getImageData method implementation that you are always creating your chart object, and not keeping it in any instance variable. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Gaetan Zoritchak g.zoritc...@virtual-soft.com wrote: Hi all, I was debugging my sessions size in order to reduce it and I saw that one of my page spend 20ko because of an dynamic image generated with JFreeChart. JFreeChart was serialized with my DynamicImageRessource. My first optimisation is to make JFreeChart a static field initialized in a static bloc. Is it an valid way of handling that problem? Gaetan Zoritchak, -- Pedro Henrique Oliveira dos Santos
