[vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

2009-05-10 Thread ckubu
hi,

I'm running qmail+vpopmail+dovecot on FreeBSD stable system and all worked 
fine, almost all. I'm not able to bring non-plaintext authentication methods 
working on qmails pop3 service (APOP), and on dovecots imap service 
(CRAM-MD5).

Maybe this is an OS issue and this question isn't on he right place here, in 
this case sorry about that.

my versions:
(net)qmail with tls-smtp-auth patch
vpopmail 5.4.27
dovecot 1.1.14

i have tried older versions of vpopmail and dovecot, but with the same result: 
non-plaintext authentication methods doesn't work.

what did i wrong ? can aybody help me ?

regards christoph




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RE: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

2009-05-10 Thread Tren Blackburn
You're going to need to provide more details Christoph. I personally
don't use either qmail's POP3 or Dovecot (yet), but I've been running
POP3s and IMAP4s for many years with courier. If it's not working, your
logs should give you an idea why. Typically you have to compile support
in. I know you do with Courier. I can't see Dovecot being any different.


The TLS patch you're talking about has nothing to do with POP3 or IMAP.
And as far as I know, vpopmail doesn't really play into it either (or at
least not that much...but I might be wrong). 

For qmail POP3 look up how to setup recordio (part of the ucspi-tcp
package) in your POP3 startup so you can get the full conversation. Also
try posting your run file for POP3. As far as I know all you need to run
POP3s is stunnel, a certificate, and a proper setup. There's plenty of
guides around if you google.

I'm sorry I can't help with Dovecot, but their mailing list I'm sure
would be please to point you in the right direction, which will probably
be their documentation wiki :)

Hope that helps,

Tren

 -Original Message-
 From: ckubu [mailto:ck...@so36.net]
 Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:42 AM
 To: vchkpw@inter7.com
 Subject: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods
 
 hi,
 
 I'm running qmail+vpopmail+dovecot on FreeBSD stable system and all
 worked
 fine, almost all. I'm not able to bring non-plaintext authentication
 methods
 working on qmails pop3 service (APOP), and on dovecots imap service
 (CRAM-MD5).
 
 Maybe this is an OS issue and this question isn't on he right place
 here, in
 this case sorry about that.
 
 my versions:
 (net)qmail with tls-smtp-auth patch
 vpopmail 5.4.27
 dovecot 1.1.14
 
 i have tried older versions of vpopmail and dovecot, but with the same
 result:
 non-plaintext authentication methods doesn't work.
 
 what did i wrong ? can aybody help me ?
 
 regards christoph
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

2009-05-10 Thread Rick Macdougall

ckubu wrote:

hi,

I'm running qmail+vpopmail+dovecot on FreeBSD stable system and all worked 
fine, almost all. I'm not able to bring non-plaintext authentication methods 
working on qmails pop3 service (APOP), and on dovecots imap service 
(CRAM-MD5).


Maybe this is an OS issue and this question isn't on he right place here, in 
this case sorry about that.


my versions:
(net)qmail with tls-smtp-auth patch
vpopmail 5.4.27
dovecot 1.1.14

i have tried older versions of vpopmail and dovecot, but with the same result: 
non-plaintext authentication methods doesn't work.


what did i wrong ? can aybody help me ?



Hi,

The only reason I can think of that CRAM-MD5 doesn't work with pop or 
imap is that clear text passwords are disabled.


To use CRAM-MD5, you need a clear text password stored locally.

Did you perhaps compile vpopmail with the --disable-clear-passwd flag ?

Regards,

Rick


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RE: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

2009-05-10 Thread Ahmed Sabry
Dear all
sorry for interrupting you . but I am facing a serious problem , that my users 
get return mails ( mailer-daemon) for their sent mails  indicating that fake 
user is not exist ( although they never send this message for this recipient)

my mail design

 _____
|Qmail gateway |   |Qmail server that|
| Spamassasin , clamav |   | holds mail boxes|
|__|  --- |_|


And moreover users from others domains get return mail from my gateway 
indicating that they was sending for a fake user , although they never send to 
this recipient

And when I check the logs of gateway , I found another mail sent for this fake 
user.

Waiting your advice
Regards,
Ahmed Sabry

-Original Message-
From: ckubu [mailto:ck...@so36.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:42 PM
To: vchkpw@inter7.com
Subject: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

hi,

I'm running qmail+vpopmail+dovecot on FreeBSD stable system and all worked
fine, almost all. I'm not able to bring non-plaintext authentication methods
working on qmails pop3 service (APOP), and on dovecots imap service
(CRAM-MD5).

Maybe this is an OS issue and this question isn't on he right place here, in
this case sorry about that.

my versions:
(net)qmail with tls-smtp-auth patch
vpopmail 5.4.27
dovecot 1.1.14

i have tried older versions of vpopmail and dovecot, but with the same result:
non-plaintext authentication methods doesn't work.

what did i wrong ? can aybody help me ?

regards christoph








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Re: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

2009-05-10 Thread Tren Blackburn
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From: Ahmed Sabry asa...@nile-online.com
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Sent: Sun May 10 17:40:41 2009
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Dear all
sorry for interrupting you . but I am facing a serious problem , that my users 
get return mails ( mailer-daemon) for their sent mails  indicating that fake 
user is not exist ( although they never send this message for this recipient)

my mail design

 _____
|Qmail gateway |   |Qmail server that|
| Spamassasin , clamav |   | holds mail boxes|
|__|  --- |_|


And moreover users from others domains get return mail from my gateway 
indicating that they was sending for a fake user , although they never send to 
this recipient

And when I check the logs of gateway , I found another mail sent for this fake 
user.

Waiting your advice
Regards,
Ahmed Sabry

-Original Message-
From: ckubu [mailto:ck...@so36.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:42 PM
To: vchkpw@inter7.com
Subject: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

hi,

I'm running qmail+vpopmail+dovecot on FreeBSD stable system and all worked
fine, almost all. I'm not able to bring non-plaintext authentication methods
working on qmails pop3 service (APOP), and on dovecots imap service
(CRAM-MD5).

Maybe this is an OS issue and this question isn't on he right place here, in
this case sorry about that.

my versions:
(net)qmail with tls-smtp-auth patch
vpopmail 5.4.27
dovecot 1.1.14

i have tried older versions of vpopmail and dovecot, but with the same result:
non-plaintext authentication methods doesn't work.

what did i wrong ? can aybody help me ?

regards christoph








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Re: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

2009-05-10 Thread ckubu
hi,

 [..] I'm not able to bring non-plaintext 
 authentication methods working on qmails pop3 service (APOP), and on
 dovecots imap service (CRAM-MD5).

 The only reason I can think of that CRAM-MD5 doesn't work with pop or
 imap is that clear text passwords are disabled.

 To use CRAM-MD5, you need a clear text password stored locally.

 Did you perhaps compile vpopmail with the --disable-clear-passwd flag ?

yes, i did. i tried it without this flag and it was easy to point out that you 
are in right. thank you. 

so i think there is no possibility to bring non-plaintext authetication 
methods working afterwards, i mean for existing mailboxes, isn't it ?

regards christoph


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Re: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

2009-05-10 Thread Tren Blackburn
I think the learn passwords configuration option combined with the clear text 
passwords, would do exactly what you need. The learn password option works with 
qmails pop3 (please correct me if I'm wrong)...though I'm unsure about dovecot. 
It's been a long time since I've used that option.

Regards,

Tren

- Original Message -
From: ckubu ck...@so36.net
To: vchkpw@inter7.com vchkpw@inter7.com
Sent: Sun May 10 18:13:19 2009
Subject: Re: [vchkpw] non plaintext authentication methods

hi,

 [..] I'm not able to bring non-plaintext 
 authentication methods working on qmails pop3 service (APOP), and on
 dovecots imap service (CRAM-MD5).

 The only reason I can think of that CRAM-MD5 doesn't work with pop or
 imap is that clear text passwords are disabled.

 To use CRAM-MD5, you need a clear text password stored locally.

 Did you perhaps compile vpopmail with the --disable-clear-passwd flag ?

yes, i did. i tried it without this flag and it was easy to point out that you 
are in right. thank you. 

so i think there is no possibility to bring non-plaintext authetication 
methods working afterwards, i mean for existing mailboxes, isn't it ?

regards christoph





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