[vchkpw] Re: Upgrade to Vpopmail 5.4.26 and .qmail-default issues

2008-01-02 Thread Stephane Bouvard (ML)
Hi,

My opinion, if it can help :

If it works when you have a .qmail, it's probably because this file use a 
different delivery agent (maildrop), thus it means that your default delivery 
agent does not work correctly, and for me according you are using gentoo, 
honnestly, the .maildir / Maildir difference remain a clue...  could you try 
creating a symlink .maildir ?

Anyway, it should be the default delivery program wich is not able to do their 
job, try it manualy to see if you have a specific output.

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> I do agree, that the ebuilds are not always very useful. I had edited the
> build to eliminate the changes from Maildir to .maildir. It is
> accomplished through a simple sed command across the vpopmail source
> before compiling.

> I interrupted this process by commenting it out and the build itself
> should be operating as normal from source, which would be Maildir.

> You do raise a good point, I wish Gentoo would get that part of it right.
> Deviating from the standards are not a good idea.

> Matt

>> Hi,

>> Be carefull with the Gentoo ebuilds : they are modyfied by the Gentoo team
>> to use ".maildir" (dot maildir) in place of "Maildir", it can be the
>> source of your problems if you've mixed "official" Gentoo ebuilds
>> (expecting .maildir) with others made by hand (using Maildir).

>> ,- - [ Le mercredi 2 janvier 2008 vers 20:13 Matthew Goodman écrivait: ] -
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>>> netqmail-1.05, qmail-scanner-2.01-st, vpopmail 5.4.26 - all compiled
>>> from
>>> Gentoo ebuilds. The vpopmail ebuild I sort of made by hand, so as much
>>> as
>>> possible I investigate the ebuilds carefully for strange/rogue settings
>>> and such.

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Re: [vchkpw] Re: Upgrade to Vpopmail 5.4.26 and .qmail-default issues

2008-01-02 Thread Matthew Goodman
I tend to agree with you on all points, however, once a production level
system is up and running (quite smoothly for years up until recently here)
I try not to upset the chi.

Now if I were to do it all over, I'd probably do it very differently. It's
always a learning process.

Back onto point though, any thoughts as to where I could look for why
email is so backed up? And why all of a sudden .qmail-default was not good
enough to deliver mail with?

Matt

>> You do raise a good point, I wish Gentoo would get that part of it
>> right.
>> Deviating from the standards are not a good idea.
>>
> I love Gentoo, but every now and then the do something boneheaded that
> makes me think that I should bail on it for KUbuntu or something like
> that.  The only thing that's kept me on it lately is that while I'm no
> longer on the bleeding edge (I use a thinkpad R50p - at the time I got it,
> Gentoo was the only flavor I could tweak things with properly and still
> use "official" packages rather than rolling my own and having to remember
> to upgrade it manually), I still do occasionally tweak things (and
> rebuilding my primary workstation is a pain :)).  Most notably they seem
> to have had some people with strange ideas of how to maintain
> qmail/vpopmail etc., but since it was their sandbox they got to make it
> so...
>
> Personally, no matter how good the maintainer, I prefer doing source for
> qmail/vpopmail et. al. - that way I _know_ what it's gonna do (or at least
> what I'm expecting it to do :)).
>
> Josh
>
> Joshua Megerman
> SJGames MIB #5273 - OGRE AI Testing Division
> You can't win; You can't break even; You can't even quit the game.
>   - Layman's translation of the Laws of Thermodynamics
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Re: [vchkpw] Re: Upgrade to Vpopmail 5.4.26 and .qmail-default issues

2008-01-02 Thread Joshua Megerman
> You do raise a good point, I wish Gentoo would get that part of it right.
> Deviating from the standards are not a good idea.
>
I love Gentoo, but every now and then the do something boneheaded that
makes me think that I should bail on it for KUbuntu or something like
that.  The only thing that's kept me on it lately is that while I'm no
longer on the bleeding edge (I use a thinkpad R50p - at the time I got it,
Gentoo was the only flavor I could tweak things with properly and still
use "official" packages rather than rolling my own and having to remember
to upgrade it manually), I still do occasionally tweak things (and
rebuilding my primary workstation is a pain :)).  Most notably they seem
to have had some people with strange ideas of how to maintain
qmail/vpopmail etc., but since it was their sandbox they got to make it
so...

Personally, no matter how good the maintainer, I prefer doing source for
qmail/vpopmail et. al. - that way I _know_ what it's gonna do (or at least
what I'm expecting it to do :)).

Josh

Joshua Megerman
SJGames MIB #5273 - OGRE AI Testing Division
You can't win; You can't break even; You can't even quit the game.
  - Layman's translation of the Laws of Thermodynamics
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [vchkpw] Re: Upgrade to Vpopmail 5.4.26 and .qmail-default issues

2008-01-02 Thread Matthew Goodman
I do agree, that the ebuilds are not always very useful. I had edited the
build to eliminate the changes from Maildir to .maildir. It is
accomplished through a simple sed command across the vpopmail source
before compiling.

I interrupted this process by commenting it out and the build itself
should be operating as normal from source, which would be Maildir.

You do raise a good point, I wish Gentoo would get that part of it right.
Deviating from the standards are not a good idea.

Matt

> Hi,
>
> Be carefull with the Gentoo ebuilds : they are modyfied by the Gentoo team
> to use ".maildir" (dot maildir) in place of "Maildir", it can be the
> source of your problems if you've mixed "official" Gentoo ebuilds
> (expecting .maildir) with others made by hand (using Maildir).
>
> ,- - [ Le mercredi 2 janvier 2008 vers 20:13 Matthew Goodman écrivait: ] -
> -
> |
>
>> netqmail-1.05, qmail-scanner-2.01-st, vpopmail 5.4.26 - all compiled
>> from
>> Gentoo ebuilds. The vpopmail ebuild I sort of made by hand, so as much
>> as
>> possible I investigate the ebuilds carefully for strange/rogue settings
>> and such.
>
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[vchkpw] Re: Upgrade to Vpopmail 5.4.26 and .qmail-default issues

2008-01-02 Thread Stephane Bouvard (ML)
Hi,

Be carefull with the Gentoo ebuilds : they are modyfied by the Gentoo team to 
use ".maildir" (dot maildir) in place of "Maildir", it can be the source of 
your problems if you've mixed "official" Gentoo ebuilds (expecting .maildir) 
with others made by hand (using Maildir).

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> netqmail-1.05, qmail-scanner-2.01-st, vpopmail 5.4.26 - all compiled from
> Gentoo ebuilds. The vpopmail ebuild I sort of made by hand, so as much as
> possible I investigate the ebuilds carefully for strange/rogue settings
> and such.

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