RE: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Hey; -Original Message- From: Quey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 2:57 PM To: vpopmail-list Subject: [vchkpw] Domain limits Hi, Yes I know they are Broken, however... I saw a recent post (I think on this list) claiming it works to 2G, is this the case? In other words, If I wanted to introduce a low cost Email only plan, that allows them to have unlimited email accounts and aliases but cant occupy more than 2G of disk space, will this in fact actually work? Is this the only thing that it is broken with, not being able to exceed 2G ? I actually used domain limits for about a year. This was on a fairly busy set of servers, and I couldn't figure out why the load was always so high on the servers and there was so much network traffic. Domain limits are horrible. On every message that goes through the system, vpopmail adds up the size of all the messages in all the mailboxes. I'm still not sure why it's even a configuration option still... If you want to provide a domain wide limit, use the kernels quota tools and create the domain with a unique user ID. It's pretty well documented in the archives of the list. HTH, Tren
Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Hi Tren, Tren Blackburn wrote: Hey; -Original Message- From: Quey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 2:57 PM To: vpopmail-list Subject: [vchkpw] Domain limits Hi, Yes I know they are Broken, however... I saw a recent post (I think on this list) claiming it works to 2G, is this the case? In other words, If I wanted to introduce a low cost Email only plan, that allows them to have unlimited email accounts and aliases but cant occupy more than 2G of disk space, will this in fact actually work? Is this the only thing that it is broken with, not being able to exceed 2G ? I actually used domain limits for about a year. This was on a fairly busy set of servers, and I couldn't figure out why the load was always so high on the servers and there was so much network traffic. Domain limits are horrible. On every message that goes through the system, vpopmail adds up the size of all the messages in all the mailboxes. I'm still not sure why it's even a configuration option still... Ahhh bugger, thanks, it makes sense Cheers Q If you want to provide a domain wide limit, use the kernels quota tools and create the domain with a unique user ID. It's pretty well documented in the archives of the list. HTH, Tren
Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Tren Blackburn wrote: Hey; -Original Message- From: Quey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 2:57 PM To: vpopmail-list Subject: [vchkpw] Domain limits Hi, Yes I know they are Broken, however... I saw a recent post (I think on this list) claiming it works to 2G, is this the case? In other words, If I wanted to introduce a low cost Email only plan, that allows them to have unlimited email accounts and aliases but cant occupy more than 2G of disk space, will this in fact actually work? Is this the only thing that it is broken with, not being able to exceed 2G ? I actually used domain limits for about a year. This was on a fairly busy set of servers, and I couldn't figure out why the load was always so high on the servers and there was so much network traffic. Domain limits are horrible. On every message that goes through the system, vpopmail adds up the size of all the messages in all the mailboxes. I'm still not sure why it's even a configuration option still... Changelog 5.4.12 - released 4-Jul-04 Tom Collins - configure: remove enable-domainquotas option until the domain quota code is fixed. If you can show me it is back, I'll delete it again. I don't see it in ./configure --help for 5.4.20 though... Don't hold your breath on a fix. Someone has to figure out how to stop the system hogging effect of enabling domain quotas on an existing machine that does not already use it. This problem shows up as a self-inflicted DOS attack on your server when every message received results in the file usage of its domain. I would have expected it to level out once it finally had totals in place for all maildirs, but Tren's experience seems to show that is false. I think we can safely say that domain quotas within vpopmail are dead, and if you need them follow Tren's advice below... If you want to provide a domain wide limit, use the kernels quota tools and create the domain with a unique user ID. It's pretty well documented in the archives of the list.
RE: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Hey Rick; -Original Message- From: Rick Widmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 6:02 PM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits Tren Blackburn wrote: Hey; -Original Message- From: Quey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 2:57 PM To: vpopmail-list Subject: [vchkpw] Domain limits Hi, Yes I know they are Broken, however... I saw a recent post (I think on this list) claiming it works to 2G, is this the case? In other words, If I wanted to introduce a low cost Email only plan, that allows them to have unlimited email accounts and aliases but cant occupy more than 2G of disk space, will this in fact actually work? Is this the only thing that it is broken with, not being able to exceed 2G ? I actually used domain limits for about a year. This was on a fairly busy set of servers, and I couldn't figure out why the load was always so high on the servers and there was so much network traffic. Domain limits are horrible. On every message that goes through the system, vpopmail adds up the size of all the messages in all the mailboxes. I'm still not sure why it's even a configuration option still... Changelog 5.4.12 - released 4-Jul-04 Tom Collins - configure: remove enable-domainquotas option until the domain quota code is fixed. If you can show me it is back, I'll delete it again. I don't see it in ./configure --help for 5.4.20 though... Good to see...I assumed that since someone was asking about them, it was still an option. My bad. Don't hold your breath on a fix. Someone has to figure out how to stop the system hogging effect of enabling domain quotas on an existing machine that does not already use it. This problem shows up as a self-inflicted DOS attack on your server when every message received results in the file usage of its domain. I would have expected it to level out once it finally had totals in place for all maildirs, but Tren's experience seems to show that is false. There isn't any way, unless you decided to only do the counts at certain intervals or times of day...one of the domains had about 500 users, and a bunch of them had 1GB+ mailboxes. We had delivery times of up to 15 minutes. I tell ya I kicked myself when I finally tracked it down. Disk space is cheap now so quota isn't quite as big an issue as it used to be. It can be more hassle to enforce quota then to just buy another disk array. I think we can safely say that domain quotas within vpopmail are dead, and if you need them follow Tren's advice below... If you want to provide a domain wide limit, use the kernels quota tools and create the domain with a unique user ID. It's pretty well documented in the archives of the list. Thanks for the correction Rick, I'll sleep better knowing domain quotas won't haunt anyone else. Regards, Tren
Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Bastiaan van der Put wrote: Hi, I have been using vpopmail with user quota's for some time now. I want to move to domainlimits, is it possible to set the user quota to -1 and domainquota to say 500 MB on a domain. If the 500 MB is reached for the domain will the emails be bounced or does vpopmail accept it because the user limit has -1? Hi, Domain quotas do not work. The only available option is to use system quotas and create a new user for each domain. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Bastiaan van der Put wrote: Hi, I have been using vpopmail with user quota's for some time now. I want to move to domainlimits, is it possible to set the user quota to -1 and domainquota to say 500 MB on a domain. If the 500 MB is reached for the domain will the emails be bounced or does vpopmail accept it because the user limit has -1? Domainquotas don't work. See the README or changelog. You could use OS-quotas, which should result in the message being deferred for some time in your queue and then bounced (I presume - someone correct me if I'm wrong) I haven't done this, but I had the impression that you would need to create a new group for each domain and then use group-quotas, because the directory still have to be owned by the vpopmail-user. cheers, Rainer
Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Thanks for the quick reply. I will turn it back off, I noticed it didn't work as I expected. Bas At 18:00 8/5/2005, you wrote: Bastiaan van der Put wrote: Hi, I have been using vpopmail with user quota's for some time now. I want to move to domainlimits, is it possible to set the user quota to -1 and domainquota to say 500 MB on a domain. If the 500 MB is reached for the domain will the emails be bounced or does vpopmail accept it because the user limit has -1? Hi, Domain quotas do not work. The only available option is to use system quotas and create a new user for each domain. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Hmm I noticed I didnt compile with domainquota's the first time. After compiling with the support, I do get a bounce msg now the user is overquota?? user limit = -1 Domainquota = 16 MB(just to test) What exact is broken about it? Bas At 18:00 8/5/2005, you wrote: Bastiaan van der Put wrote: Hi, I have been using vpopmail with user quota's for some time now. I want to move to domainlimits, is it possible to set the user quota to -1 and domainquota to say 500 MB on a domain. If the 500 MB is reached for the domain will the emails be bounced or does vpopmail accept it because the user limit has -1? Hi, Domain quotas do not work. The only available option is to use system quotas and create a new user for each domain. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits
What exact is broken about it? Seems it only bounces emails with attachments. Bas At 18:00 8/5/2005, you wrote: Bastiaan van der Put wrote: Hi, I have been using vpopmail with user quota's for some time now. I want to move to domainlimits, is it possible to set the user quota to -1 and domainquota to say 500 MB on a domain. If the 500 MB is reached for the domain will the emails be bounced or does vpopmail accept it because the user limit has -1? Hi, Domain quotas do not work. The only available option is to use system quotas and create a new user for each domain. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] Domain limits
Bastiaan van der Put wrote: Hmm I noticed I didnt compile with domainquota's the first time. After compiling with the support, I do get a bounce msg now the user is overquota?? user limit = -1 Domainquota = 16 MB(just to test) What exact is broken about it? Hi, Everything about it is broken. It plain doesn't work and if you get any number of users in that domain, mail delivery might take 5 or 6 minutes as it tries to re-calculate the domain quota. I think Tom took the code out of the 5.4.12 release completely. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] Domain Limits
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 05:11, Clayton Milos wrote: I am running a mail serer and i enabled domain quotas. I would like to know how to set the quotas for each domain. it never fails to amaze me how many people don't bother to read the documentation that comes with the software... first read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html then read the file README.quotas in the source. -- --- | John Simpson - KG4ZOW - Programmer At Large | | http://www.jms1.net/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- pgp0.pgp Description: signature
