VCL 2.0
Hi, I need the official release of VCL 2.0 to calculate the diff with a customized version, so I can know the exact changes and re-apply the customization to VCL 2.2. But 2.0 is nowhere to be found. Does anyone know the URL to download VCL 2.0? Or if you are the lucky one still have the original tar, please send me a copy. Thanks in advance, John Ma Marist College
Re: VCL 2.0
John, There was no official release of VCL 2.0 from ASF. That was the transition point at which we moved code from NCSU to ASF. You can get it from subversion though, because we tagged it when we did the initial checkin at ASF. svn export https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/vcl/tags/VCL-2.0.0/ Josh On Thursday January 13, 2011, John Ma wrote: Hi, I need the official release of VCL 2.0 to calculate the diff with a customized version, so I can know the exact changes and re-apply the customization to VCL 2.2. But 2.0 is nowhere to be found. Does anyone know the URL to download VCL 2.0? Or if you are the lucky one still have the original tar, please send me a copy. Thanks in advance, John Ma Marist College -- --- Josh Thompson VCL Developer North Carolina State University my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu
New here: Question about backend
Hello all, I'm new here. I'm a PC Systems Administrator and we're looking to setup a VCL here (test environment first, obviously). Please tell me if this question is not appropriate for this list but is anyone using anything besides VMWare for the back-end VMs with their VCL? It's part of my job to get appropriate pricing, etc. for the long term and all I see on the wiki is mention of VMWare products. Also, if anyone is willing to enter into an email dialog with specifically what they're running I'd really appreciate it. Send me an email. I have a lot of learning to do. Thanks, Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edu Rensselaer at Hartford http://www.ewp.rpi.edu/tis
Re: New here: Question about backend
Hello Adam, The VCL uses VMware Server which is a free release. Good luck. Cordially, GIBET TANI Hicham
Re: New here: Question about backend
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 VCL can also use ESXi with a free license. Josh On Thursday January 13, 2011, Hicham Gibet Tani wrote: Hello Adam, The VCL uses VMware Server which is a free release. Good luck. Cordially, GIBET TANI Hicham - -- - --- Josh Thompson VCL Developer North Carolina State University my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0vM2UACgkQV/LQcNdtPQO0NwCaA9HpkuuUMUFWghIvEKaiJhwH KrYAnA7/WkesJz37Pig39+wFu9w6uWRM =w1Fv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: New here: Question about backend
Thank you, What I was curious about is whether or not anyone is using Citrix XenDesktop, Microsoft VDI/System Center or anything else? Does VCL only work with VMWare products? Thanks, Adam -Original Message- From: Josh Thompson [mailto:josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:16 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: New here: Question about backend -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 VCL can also use ESXi with a free license. Josh On Thursday January 13, 2011, Hicham Gibet Tani wrote: Hello Adam, The VCL uses VMware Server which is a free release. Good luck. Cordially, GIBET TANI Hicham - -- - --- Josh Thompson VCL Developer North Carolina State University my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0vM2UACgkQV/LQcNdtPQO0NwCaA9HpkuuUMUFWghIvEK aiJhwH KrYAnA7/WkesJz37Pig39+wFu9w6uWRM =w1Fv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New here: Question about backend
Here is pretty usefull apache VCL incubator link: https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/vcl-22.html Good luck, GIBET TANI Hicham
Re: New here: Question about backend
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Currently, out of the box, VCL only supports VMware for it's the virtualization (using VMware's Perl SDK). There have been a few members of this list who have gotten VirtualBox and KVM to work (Using their own custom modules). The next release of VCL may include support for 'libvirt'(libvirt.org). Libvirt currently supports Xen, Qemu, KVM, LXC, OpenVZ,User Mode Linux, VirtualBox, and VMware. (It has bindings for Perl, Java, PHP, Python, and Ruby) Btw, many Linux systems already have 'libvirt' bundled (RedHat, CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu, etc) But, the windows port is still experimental. So, unless that Citrix or Microsoft VDI support libvirt, I kind of doubt they'll be supported any time soon. If there were a Perl SDK for them, someone may be able to build a custom module for them. Hope this helps, __Jim On 1/13/2011 9:21 AM, Hechler, Adam wrote: Thank you, What I was curious about is whether or not anyone is using Citrix XenDesktop, Microsoft VDI/System Center or anything else? Does VCL only work with VMWare products? Thanks, Adam -Original Message- From: Josh Thompson [mailto:josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:16 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: New here: Question about backend VCL can also use ESXi with a free license. Josh On Thursday January 13, 2011, Hicham Gibet Tani wrote: Hello Adam, The VCL uses VMware Server which is a free release. Good luck. Cordially, GIBET TANI Hicham - -- Jim O'Dell Network Analyst California State University Fullerton Email: jod...@fullerton.edu Phone: (657) 278-2256 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0vPvsACgkQREVHAOnXPYRufwCdE16CUwYJ9nc8HWmFTMAOhH1o ygAAoMswm8IxT7IPG6CPy4OI4jwPnmoI =Hxjw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New here: Question about backend
James writes: ... For most part the VCL works really well. (I've heard that at NCSU they've replaced almost all the computer labs with VCL) We've stopped adding computer labs a few years ago even through student enrollment has been growing, we've significantly lengthened the computer lab equipment refresh time, and we've just started on a path of closing down labs. I expect that we'll retain some of the general use labs. Our specialized labs - such as the ones where the computer equipment is modified as part of the course work - will remain. The only problem I've run into is that the remote desktop screen doesn't keep up if you are using high end graphics, or full motion video(ie. flash). Intermediate level graphics such as Flash animations work well. An intricate 3D drawing in SolidWorks will look fine - but spin it *fast* and you'll likely get some video artifacts - which will heal as soon as the spin slows down and stops. The research I've down seems to indicate the problem is with the RDP protocol used by windows remote desktop. There are many alternatives to windows remote desktop. I just haven't had time to try them yet. I keep on hearing hopeful things, but haven't seen anything concrete. Please keep us in the loop if you find something promising. --henry schaffer
