[vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
Hello, Now that I have an hd tv set, I'm looking at revamping my ageing vdr system for hd. Oh, and I want it to be really cheap ;-) It seems that the only reasonable option is a motherboard/graphic card supported by nvidia vdpau. I need a parallel port and a pci slot (I want to use my current dvb-s card), so the revo and similar nettops are out. The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? According to this page http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU the only limitation is that it cannot do Advanced 2x for HD content, everything else is covered (I'm currently using temporal on my laptop and, while acceptable, it doesn't seem top-notch). Or should I better buy a cheap motherboard and add an external nvidia graphic card? Any suggestion? Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message, but it seems it isn't available anywhere, at least here in Spain :-( I'm just at the same task at the moment. Vdpau enabled IGP motherboards except ION systems seem not to be available at all for some reason. Same for passive Nvidia GT220 cards (not yet available (Zotac Zone Edition or ECS)). Even if its german, this might give you a good overview: http://wbreu.htpc-forum.de/vdpaukompendium/leistungsvergleichgrafikchipsonboardchips/index.php To me that means, at decoding they are close to each other, but big difference at de-interlacing. i'm trying my luck at the moment with the passive cooled Gainward GT210, maybe later moving on to the GT220 once passive cooled models are available. It was told me that dual core CPU are preferable for OSD responiveness. Just to share a bit my findings from last days/weeks. I'm not quite sure if i will be able to keep the same noise level (nearly 0) with the HD components, but my plan is: C2D E7x00 Mainboard w/o IGP GT210/220 For AMD system it should be a K10 according to wb...@vdrportal.de, since the K8 models could cause problems with vdpau with CnQ enabled. HTH Steffen ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message, but it seems it isn't available anywhere, at least here in Spain :-( I'm just at the same task at the moment. Vdpau enabled IGP motherboards except ION systems seem not to be available at all for some reason. Same for passive Nvidia GT220 cards (not yet available (Zotac Zone Edition or ECS)). agree П210 or Gt220 or new ION2 can be good choice Goga ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Luca Olivetti l...@ventoso.org wrote: En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message, but it seems it isn't available anywhere, at least here in Spain :-( Bye -- Luca The P5N7A-VM seems to have been discontinued by ASUS. We have a number at customer sites and the this motherboard does a good job using Temporal 2x with VDPAU. Andrew ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
En/na Steffen Barszus ha escrit: Vdpau enabled IGP motherboards except ION systems seem not to be available at all for some reason. Maybe because they are old. It's a pity because they seems a good choice: cheap, small, powerful and passively cooled. Same for passive Nvidia GT220 cards (not yet available (Zotac Zone Edition or ECS)). Even if its german, this might give you a good overview: http://wbreu.htpc-forum.de/vdpaukompendium/leistungsvergleichgrafikchipsonboardchips/index.php Thanks, that's a good overview. According to it the GT210 only supports temporal, so it doesn't seem such a good choice, and the ones I can find over here are with forced cooling. Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
En/na Andrew Herron ha escrit: The P5N7A-VM seems to have been discontinued by ASUS. We have a number at customer sites and the this motherboard does a good job using Temporal 2x with VDPAU. As I said to Steffen it's a pity that they're no longer available. Maybe there is some newer model coming soon? Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: Even if its german, this might give you a good overview: http://wbreu.htpc-forum.de/vdpaukompendium/leistungsvergleichgrafikchipsonboardchips/index.php Thanks, that's a good overview. According to it the GT210 only supports temporal, so it doesn't seem such a good choice, and the ones I can find over here are with forced cooling. Mmmh, in that table, the 9400GT is said to support only temporal, while here http://wbreu.htpc-forum.de/vdpaukompendium/leistungsvergleichgrafikchipsonboardchips/index.php he says than the 9400GT has enough power to advanced deinterlacing at 1980x1080. A glitch of google translate or is the table wrong? Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
Check the linux forums at http://www.nvnews.net/. Sounds like the GT220 would be a good choice. Maybe even the GT210. I have an 8400 with the newer chip and it's is marginal at best and won't do the advanced deint. Luca Olivetti wrote: Hello, Now that I have an hd tv set, I'm looking at revamping my ageing vdr system for hd. Oh, and I want it to be really cheap ;-) It seems that the only reasonable option is a motherboard/graphic card supported by nvidia vdpau. I need a parallel port and a pci slot (I want to use my current dvb-s card), so the revo and similar nettops are out. The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? According to this page http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU the only limitation is that it cannot do Advanced 2x for HD content, everything else is covered (I'm currently using temporal on my laptop and, while acceptable, it doesn't seem top-notch). Or should I better buy a cheap motherboard and add an external nvidia graphic card? Any suggestion? Bye ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
NewEgg or ZipZoomFly don't ship to spain? Steffen Barszus wrote: Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message, but it seems it isn't available anywhere, at least here in Spain :-( I'm just at the same task at the moment. Vdpau enabled IGP motherboards except ION systems seem not to be available at all for some reason. Same for passive Nvidia GT220 cards (not yet available (Zotac Zone Edition or ECS)). Even if its german, this might give you a good overview: http://wbreu.htpc-forum.de/vdpaukompendium/leistungsvergleichgrafikchipsonboardchips/index.php To me that means, at decoding they are close to each other, but big difference at de-interlacing. i'm trying my luck at the moment with the passive cooled Gainward GT210, maybe later moving on to the GT220 once passive cooled models are available. It was told me that dual core CPU are preferable for OSD responiveness. Just to share a bit my findings from last days/weeks. I'm not quite sure if i will be able to keep the same noise level (nearly 0) with the HD components, but my plan is: C2D E7x00 Mainboard w/o IGP GT210/220 For AMD system it should be a K10 according to wb...@vdrportal.de, since the K8 models could cause problems with vdpau with CnQ enabled. HTH Steffen ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
En/na Timothy D. Lenz ha escrit: NewEgg or ZipZoomFly don't ship to spain? No, but even if they did the shipping, taxes and customs fees would cost more than the wares. Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 13:17 +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: Hello, Now that I have an hd tv set, I'm looking at revamping my ageing vdr system for hd. Oh, and I want it to be really cheap ;-) I was thinking along the same lines and I have just bought an ION board. The main board comes with a CPU and with GeForce 9400 graphics, so that will be cheaper than the sum of a normal board + CPU + GeForce 9400 graphics. Here in Germany, there are only two Atom boards with 1 PCI slot and GeForce 9400 graphics: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=mb1ppga_ddrxf=597_GeForce+9400~489_1 All you need in addition to that is some memory, the DVB-S2 card and a case. Cases start at 30 Euros: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=gehitxv=esort=pxf=534_Mini-ITX~549_220 Carsten. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
En/na Steffen Barszus ha escrit: C2D E7x00 Isn't that overkill? (I mean, with hw accelerated people are using an atom) Mainboard w/o IGP GT210/220 If I go this route (separate motherboard and graphic card) what about audio through hdmi? Any card will do or should I look for a specific one with some form of spdif pass-through? Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
En/na Carsten Koch ha escrit: Here in Germany, there are only two Atom boards with 1 PCI slot and GeForce 9400 graphics: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=mb1ppga_ddrxf=597_GeForce+9400~489_1 Yes, but the problem is that I need a parallel port for the actuator (though maybe I could adapt the circuit to use the serial port instead, and the point of view has one, but then I should find a replacement for my homebrew lirc receiver). Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Moving to a stream mpeg or h264 with vdr-1.7.9
Hi, Am 12.11.2009 22:05, schrieb Senufo: I just found an error when I use the keys 4 or 7 for me to move in the mpeg2 stream (vdr-17.9 with vdr-xine 0.9.3). Clear(1785)! StillPicture: 0x191da2a0, 0 FIXME: xineDevice.c:1321 FIXME: xineDevice.c:2075 Clear(1786)! StillPicture: 0x19179110, 0 FIXME: xineDevice.c:1321 FIXME: xineDevice.c:2075 There is still a bug in VDR-1.7.9's I-frame detector which is used to generate the index file. The index position is off by one TS packet so that the first TS packet of the I-frame is missing when VDR sends the still picture data to vdr-xine. Hence, the image cannot be decoded, so you won't see a change on screen. The bug is going to be fixed -- see [vdr] FF/RW problems with xine. Bye. -- Dipl.-Inform. (FH) Reinhard Nissl mailto:rni...@gmx.de ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Steffen Barszus ha escrit: C2D E7x00 Isn't that overkill? (I mean, with hw accelerated people are using an atom) Yes it is, but * the CPU should have some potential for undervolting * configuration on speedstep i hope i can tweak I hope to get some potential for easy converting/whatever??? and have a not so hungry CPU otherwise (i read something like 8W idle which matches my current CPU which i used last years and it should idle most of he time assuming vdpau works as expected) Mainboard w/o IGP GT210/220 If I go this route (separate motherboard and graphic card) what about audio through hdmi? Any card will do or should I look for a specific one with some form of spdif pass-through? I don't have experience on this and its not a concern for me, but maybe still give you some facts: * the cards all have an audio pass trough, no connector though * the card reports to have an audio device * this audio device is not supported yet, but some people reported success to at last get it recognized with some patches, not sure if its working for anyone allready ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
I have seen USB to serial and parallel adapters, but the parallel ones are kind of rare and you might need to mod your software Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Carsten Koch ha escrit: Here in Germany, there are only two Atom boards with 1 PCI slot and GeForce 9400 graphics: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=mb1ppga_ddrxf=597_GeForce+9400~489_1 Yes, but the problem is that I need a parallel port for the actuator (though maybe I could adapt the circuit to use the serial port instead, and the point of view has one, but then I should find a replacement for my homebrew lirc receiver). Bye ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Hulu for Linux
I've tried to start looking through the posted threads, but they are 40-60 pages long :( google tends to take me back to the same pages. Michael Stepanov wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Steffen Barszus st_bars...@gmx.de mailto:st_bars...@gmx.de wrote: Michael Stepanov schrieb: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com wrote: I already have debain linux/vdr setup. 64 bit on my system and 32 on my dads. I don't want to rip it all out and start over with another flavor of linux. Then XBMC will help you ;) Here is one way to integrate VDR and XBMC using streamdev plugin - http://blog.mymediasystem.net/avchd/xbmc-on-karmic-with-vdpau-and-vdr/ There is also another way without streamdev, which is better as people talk. And then, how does it related to the OP question ? http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=42041 Michael Stepanov wrote: Hi Timothy, You may try LinuxMCE - http://linuxmce.com, which includes VDR, MythTV and now Hulu :) Or you can try XBMC+VDR On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com mailto:tl...@vorgon.com wrote: Hulu now has a linux interface. And it seems MythTv can use it. what about vdr? Can it be done without installing a desktop? http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139868 To my understanding, yes and no, depends on what you understand to be a desktop. You need X for it and something to launch it. (Flash interface) + Flashplayer (i believe Gnash can't do it yet ?) The XBMC could be your Desktop and i believe, what the answers before trying you to say is you could launch Hulu Desktop from within XBMC (not proven as i can't - neither XBMC here yet, nor can i use hulu) So whatever else, you need X and display X on your TV. HTH Steffen ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org mailto:vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr -- Cheers, Michael ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
