Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.39
Hi Klaus, On 03.03.2013 14:46, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: - When sorting recordings by name, folders are now always at the top of the list. I installed 1.7.39 last night and the new sorting is what bugs me most. Would it be possible to introduce an option for the sorting order under settings in the menu? I prefer the sorting the way it was, because with the new method, a folder and a recording with the same name are not next to each other anymore. If you take the burn plugin e.g. I think it is rater painful if you try to archive those scattered recordings. Regards André ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.39
On 04.03.2013 10:03, André Weidemann wrote: Hi Klaus, On 03.03.2013 14:46, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: - When sorting recordings by name, folders are now always at the top of the list. I installed 1.7.39 last night and the new sorting is what bugs me most. Would it be possible to introduce an option for the sorting order under settings in the menu? I prefer the sorting the way it was, because with the new method, a folder and a recording with the same name are not next to each other anymore. If you take the burn plugin e.g. I think it is rater painful if you try to archive those scattered recordings. OK, I'll add a parameter to setup.conf. I've already suggested this here http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130488-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130488 However, this won't show up in the Setup menu of version 2.0.0, because it's too late for introducing another i18n text (most of the *.po files are already complete). Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.39
On 04.03.2013 10:18, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 04.03.2013 10:03, André Weidemann wrote: Hi Klaus, On 03.03.2013 14:46, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: - When sorting recordings by name, folders are now always at the top of the list. I installed 1.7.39 last night and the new sorting is what bugs me most. Would it be possible to introduce an option for the sorting order under settings in the menu? I prefer the sorting the way it was, because with the new method, a folder and a recording with the same name are not next to each other anymore. If you take the burn plugin e.g. I think it is rater painful if you try to archive those scattered recordings. OK, I'll add a parameter to setup.conf. I've already suggested this here http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130488-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130488 However, this won't show up in the Setup menu of version 2.0.0, because it's too late for introducing another i18n text (most of the *.po files are already complete). Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr Hi Klaus, is it really necessary to make this sorting stuff configurable? Is it not better just to stick to 0 for toggeling though all these different Sort Algorithms (date up/down, lexicalic up/down, lexicalic filemanager style up/down,...). Sometimes, when I search for an recording (a 8TByte Raid could held a lot of recordings) it could also be helpfull to have a list only with all recordings without directories (only with the title base dir of this recording), also again with up down. I think its more important to have a config possibility for the columns to show ( yes I like extrec-Plugin also for the renaming facility). And the more people you ask, the more strange sort wishes you will get... But its only a suggestion, feel free to implement your style. -- --- Manfred Schmidt-Voigt --- -www.mannitec.de - --- mailto:manfred.schmidt-vo...@mannitec.de--- ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.39
On 04.03.2013 10:38, Manfred Schmidt-Voigt wrote: On 04.03.2013 10:18, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 04.03.2013 10:03, André Weidemann wrote: Hi Klaus, On 03.03.2013 14:46, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: - When sorting recordings by name, folders are now always at the top of the list. I installed 1.7.39 last night and the new sorting is what bugs me most. Would it be possible to introduce an option for the sorting order under settings in the menu? I prefer the sorting the way it was, because with the new method, a folder and a recording with the same name are not next to each other anymore. If you take the burn plugin e.g. I think it is rater painful if you try to archive those scattered recordings. OK, I'll add a parameter to setup.conf. I've already suggested this here http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130488-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130488 However, this won't show up in the Setup menu of version 2.0.0, because it's too late for introducing another i18n text (most of the *.po files are already complete). Klaus Hi Klaus, is it really necessary to make this sorting stuff configurable? Is it not better just to stick to 0 for toggeling though all these different Sort Algorithms (date up/down, lexicalic up/down, lexicalic filemanager style up/down,...). Sometimes, when I search for an recording (a 8TByte Raid could held a lot of recordings) it could also be helpfull to have a list only with all recordings without directories (only with the title base dir of this recording), also again with up down. I think its more important to have a config possibility for the columns to show ( yes I like extrec-Plugin also for the renaming facility). And the more people you ask, the more strange sort wishes you will get... And that's probably why it's best to not even begin to ask ;-). I want to keep things simple. There are two basic ways of sorting, that's by name and by time. There's no need for an explicit up/down, because with a single keypress you can go to the end of the list (provided you have set Setup/OSD/Scroll wraps to yes). Whether folders are sorted alphabetically within the recordings, or always appear at the top of the list, is a more general setting, which I don't think people will want to set differently for each directory. I'll see about implementing a list of all recordings after version 2.0. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first The patch for this new option can be found at http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130105-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130105 but it would suffice if you could just send me (or post here) the translation of the string shown above. Thanks Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On 04.03.2013 15:30, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first The patch for this new option can be found at http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130105-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130105 but it would suffice if you could just send me (or post here) the translation of the string shown above. Sorry, the link above is the one to the start of the thread. The actual posting with the patch is here: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130602-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130602 Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
Am Montag, 4. März 2013, 15:30:23 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Always sort folders first how about Always show folders first? I do not really care which items your sorting algorhythm sorts first. -- Wolfgang ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On 04.03.2013 15:37, Wolfgang Rohdewald wrote: Am Montag, 4. März 2013, 15:30:23 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Always sort folders first how about Always show folders first? I do not really care which items your sorting algorhythm sorts first. Well, the call for translations is already out... Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:30:23PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first Swedish: Sortera alltid mappar först /Richard ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:42:23PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 04.03.2013 15:37, Wolfgang Rohdewald wrote: Am Montag, 4. März 2013, 15:30:23 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Always sort folders first how about Always show folders first? I do not really care which items your sorting algorhythm sorts first. Well, the call for translations is already out... I agree with Wolfgang, here is a new translation in Swedish (which better describes the actual meaning of the configuration parameter) Visa alltid mappar överst /Richard ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On 04.03.2013 15:50, Richard Lithvall wrote: On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:42:23PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 04.03.2013 15:37, Wolfgang Rohdewald wrote: Am Montag, 4. März 2013, 15:30:23 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Always sort folders first how about Always show folders first? I do not really care which items your sorting algorhythm sorts first. Well, the call for translations is already out... I agree with Wolfgang, here is a new translation in Swedish (which better describes the actual meaning of the configuration parameter) Visa alltid mappar överst Well, I really would like to have the fact that it's about *sorting* in that name. Show could be anything... Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 04:44:41PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 04.03.2013 15:50, Richard Lithvall wrote: On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:42:23PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 04.03.2013 15:37, Wolfgang Rohdewald wrote: Am Montag, 4. März 2013, 15:30:23 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Always sort folders first how about Always show folders first? I do not really care which items your sorting algorhythm sorts first. Well, the call for translations is already out... I agree with Wolfgang, here is a new translation in Swedish (which better describes the actual meaning of the configuration parameter) Visa alltid mappar överst Well, I really would like to have the fact that it's about *sorting* in that name. Show could be anything... Ok, fair enough... Sortera alltid mappar överst /Richard ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] Betr: Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
-- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:30:23 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de To: VDR mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org Subject: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed Reply-To: VDR Mailing List vdr@linuxtv.org While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first The patch for this new option can be found at http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130105-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130105 but it would suffice if you could just send me (or post here) the translation of the string shown above. Thanks Klaus Dutch: Altijd mappen eerst sorteren Regards, Cedric ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On 03/04/2013 03:30 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first The patch for this new option can be found at http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130105-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130105 but it would suffice if you could just send me (or post here) the translation of the string shown above. Thanks Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr Hi Klaus, Czech: Adresáře řadit vždy na začátek Regards, Ales ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
Le lundi 04 mars 2013 15:34:21, Klaus Schmidinger a écrit : On 04.03.2013 15:30, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first The patch for this new option can be found at http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130105-f eature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-au fnahmen/#post1130105 but it would suffice if you could just send me (or post here) the translation of the string shown above. Sorry, the link above is the one to the start of the thread. The actual posting with the patch is here: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130602-featu re-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/# post1130602 Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr In French language Toujours trier les dossiers en premier Best regards ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
4.03.2013 16:30, Klaus Schmidinger kirjutas: While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first The patch for this new option can be found at http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130105-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130105 but it would suffice if you could just send me (or post here) the translation of the string shown above. Thanks Klaus Estonian translation: Sorteerida kaustad alati ette -- br, Arthur ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
Ukrainian: Завжди сортувати теки першими Regards, Yarema 2013/3/4 Dominique d...@free.fr Le lundi 04 mars 2013 15:34:21, Klaus Schmidinger a écrit : On 04.03.2013 15:30, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first The patch for this new option can be found at http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130105-f eature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-au fnahmen/#post1130105 but it would suffice if you could just send me (or post here) the translation of the string shown above. Sorry, the link above is the one to the start of the thread. The actual posting with the patch is here: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130602-featu re-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/# post1130602 Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr In French language Toujours trier les dossiers en premier Best regards ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
Hello! Well, I really would like to have the fact that it's about *sorting* in that name. Show could be anything... Always sort folders first means your first doing a sorting on the folders, than on the rest (films) - but it does not state what you're doing with the two(!) results. Always show folders first means the folders are on top (I would expect them to be sorted somehow) and then the films, what I think the option is about. So this is my +1 to Wolfgang. Ciao, Eike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Eike eikesa...@t-online.de wrote: Hello! Well, I really would like to have the fact that it's about *sorting* in that name. Show could be anything... Agreed. Always sort folders first means your first doing a sorting on the folders, than on the rest (films) - but it does not state what you're doing with the two(!) results. Sorting by folders first means the folders are places and the front/top of the list. Always show folders first means the folders are on top (I would expect them to be sorted somehow) and then the films, what I think the option is about. Like Klaus said, show can mean a number of things. So this is my +1 to Wolfgang. This is my -1 to Wolfgang. Let's keep in mind we're talking about _sort ordering_ here. There's no good reason for back forth about it. There's no benefit to making it harder than it needs to be either. If the option is really that confusing to the user he should just leave it alone and be accustomed to whatever the default behavior is. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
Il 04/03/2013 15:30, Klaus Schmidinger ha scritto: While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first The patch for this new option can be found at http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board97-vdr-core/p1130105-feature-request-sortierreihenfolge-verzeichnisse-zuerst-im-osd-unter-aufnahmen/#post1130105 but it would suffice if you could just send me (or post here) the translation of the string shown above. Thanks Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr Here it's in italian: Ordina sempre per prima le cartelle Regards, Diego Pierotto -- Member of the Italian VDR Wiki http://vdr.spaghettilinux.org/ ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
Al 04/03/13 15:30, En/na Klaus Schmidinger ha escrit: While implementing an option to turn on/off sorting folders first in the Recordings menu, one more string was necessary and needs to be translated: Always sort folders first es_ES Siempre ordenar primero carpetas ca_ES Sempre ordenar primer carpetes Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Call for translations for VDR version 2.0.0: one more string needed
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Eike eikesa...@t-online.de wrote: Sorting by folders first means the folders are places and the front/top of the list. I'm not sure that sorting by folders first makes any sense in English at all (any native speaker here?), but it's not what Klaus wrote anyway. Of course it makes sense when you put the quotes in the correct place -- sorting by folders first, not sorting by folders first. Let's keep in mind we're talking about _sort ordering_ here. Yeah, _we_ are talking about sort ordering here, but it's not contained in the proposed text. Sort order: Folders first seems clear and short to me, how about that? That's just another way of saying the same thing. Nothing about this is confusing in my opinion but if people are having difficulty getting it, go with whatever works I guess. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
