Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Gerald Dachs 
Am Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:18:51 +0100
schrieb Nicolas Huillard :

> Torgeir Veimo a écrit :
> >> Does somebody know the gpu that is used by the 8200 chipset? Is it
> >> not G98?
> > 
> > Some information here;
> > http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/11036/PureVideo_Product_Comparison.pdf
> 
> Is PureVideo the same as VDPAU ?

Definitively not, maybe PureVideo HD, but never PureVideo.
Currently even not all PureVideo HD devices are supported.
as I told already in my other post, this document is not very helpful.

Gerald

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread VDR User 
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Nicolas Huillard  wrote:
> If so, my old (1 year) GeForce 6150 desktop mobo should accelarate H264,
> which is a good news, since in my understanding, VDPAU was only for real
> new hardware.

One of my boxes has a 6150 so of course I would love if it could
accelerate h264 in hardware!  I don't think it does though.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Nicolas Huillard 
Torgeir Veimo a écrit :
>> Does somebody know the gpu that is used by the 8200 chipset? Is it not
>> G98?
> 
> Some information here; 
> http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/11036/PureVideo_Product_Comparison.pdf

Is PureVideo the same as VDPAU ?

If so, my old (1 year) GeForce 6150 desktop mobo should accelarate H264, 
which is a good news, since in my understanding, VDPAU was only for real 
new hardware.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Gerald Dachs 
Quoting Torgeir Veimo :

> Some information here;   
> http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/11036/PureVideo_Product_Comparison.pdf

Not very helpful, it doesn't contain the mentioned chipsets.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Torgeir Veimo 

Gerald Dachs schrieb:
> Quoting Pertti Kosunen :
>
>
>> Gerald Dachs wrote:
>>
>>> What makes you so sure that the 8200 chipset is not supported?
>>>
>> It is VDPAU supported, but AFAIK can't decode VC-1.
>>
>
> But what about this post:
> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showpost.php?p=53474&postcount=39
> He must be wrong or you.
>
> Does somebody know the gpu that is used by the 8200 chipset? Is it not
> G98?

Some information here; 
http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/11036/PureVideo_Product_Comparison.pdf

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread vdr.tuxnet 
Gerald Dachs schrieb:
> Quoting Pertti Kosunen :
>
>   
>> Gerald Dachs wrote:
>> 
>>> What makes you so sure that the 8200 chipset is not supported?
>>>   
>> It is VDPAU supported, but AFAIK can't decode VC-1.
>> 
>
> But what about this post:
> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showpost.php?p=53474&postcount=39
> He must be wrong or you.
>
> Does somebody know the gpu that is used by the 8200 chipset? Is it not
> G98?
>
> Gerald
>
>   
Hi,

the 8200/8300 chipsets are based on the G86, the frontend bitstream 
pipeline is still decoded by the CPU.
The 9300/9400 chipsets should support full VC-1 hardware decode, they 
are based on the 98.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Pertti Kosunen 
Gerald Dachs wrote:
> He must be wrong or you.

I could be wrong, G98 should be ok.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Gerald Dachs 
Quoting Pertti Kosunen :

> Gerald Dachs wrote:
>> What makes you so sure that the 8200 chipset is not supported?
>
> It is VDPAU supported, but AFAIK can't decode VC-1.

But what about this post:
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showpost.php?p=53474&postcount=39
He must be wrong or you.

Does somebody know the gpu that is used by the 8200 chipset? Is it not
G98?

Gerald



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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Pertti Kosunen 
Gerald Dachs wrote:
> What makes you so sure that the 8200 chipset is not supported?

It is VDPAU supported, but AFAIK can't decode VC-1.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Gerald Dachs 
Sorry for the direct mail.

Quoting Chris Silva <2manybi...@gmail.com>:

>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_8200_mobos&num=3
>> If I would need anyway a graphics card, then a big cooler would only
>> block a pci-e slot. The cpu socket is more near to the back side of the
>> motherboard than on many other mainboards. So I would get more space
>> between the cpu cooler and the cd rom drive in my S16T case.
>
> But the problem remains. I need at least 3 PCI slots. So, any
> suggestions on other boards with VDPAU *supported* chips?

What makes you so sure that the 8200 chipset is not supported? Of  
course I have read this
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=124458, but I have
found this too:  
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showpost.php?p=53474&postcount=39 .
On other places I could read that the only differences between 8200 and 9300
are the smaller manufacturing process, clock speed and number of shaders.

Here it is even mentioned explicitly  
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1873716

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-15 Thread Oleg Roitburd 
If PCI slots not enough on board, you can switch to USB DVB-S/S2 devices.
For example Tevii S650 (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TeVii_S650)

Regards
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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-14 Thread VDR User 
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Chris Silva <2manybi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was thinking on getting this one: Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H with a
> VDPAU working GeForce 9400 integrated onboard.
>
> But the problem remains. I need at least 3 PCI slots. So, any
> suggestions on other boards with VDPAU *supported* chips?

The EVGA 113-YW-E115-TR has 3 PCI slots and an on-board 9300.  I don't
think you'll find that many options available if you want a newer gpu
with 3+ old PCI slots.  Everything is being transitioned to PCI-E so
that many slots of an old bus technology while everything else is new
is asking a lot.

Good luck though.  Please let us know the outcome!

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-14 Thread Chris Silva 
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Gerald Dachs  wrote:
> Am Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:55:52 +0200
> schrieb Lauri Tischler :
>
>> Andrew Herron wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > This ASUS board would be suitable;
>> >
>> > http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=2579&l1=3&l2=11&l3=812&l4=0
>>
>> Too small, not enough pci-slots, minimum three pci-slots needed.
>> Four or five pci-slots would be nice.
>
> And wrong cpu, I think I will buy this one:
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_8200_mobos&num=3
> If I would need anyway a graphics card, then a big cooler would only
> block a pci-e slot. The cpu socket is more near to the back side of the
> motherboard than on many other mainboards. So I would get more space
> between the cpu cooler and the cd rom drive in my S16T case.
>
> Gerald
>

Hi.

I was thinking on getting this one: Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H with a
VDPAU working GeForce 9400 integrated onboard.

But the problem remains. I need at least 3 PCI slots. So, any
suggestions on other boards with VDPAU *supported* chips?

Chris

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-14 Thread Gerald Dachs 
Am Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:55:52 +0200
schrieb Lauri Tischler :

> Andrew Herron wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This ASUS board would be suitable;
> > 
> > http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=2579&l1=3&l2=11&l3=812&l4=0
> 
> Too small, not enough pci-slots, minimum three pci-slots needed.
> Four or five pci-slots would be nice.

And wrong cpu, I think I will buy this one:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_8200_mobos&num=3
If I would need anyway a graphics card, then a big cooler would only
block a pci-e slot. The cpu socket is more near to the back side of the
motherboard than on many other mainboards. So I would get more space
between the cpu cooler and the cd rom drive in my S16T case.

Gerald 

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-14 Thread Lauri Tischler 
Andrew Herron wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This ASUS board would be suitable;
> 
> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=2579&l1=3&l2=11&l3=812&l4=0

Too small, not enough pci-slots, minimum three pci-slots needed.
Four or five pci-slots would be nice.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-14 Thread Andrew Herron 
Hi,

This ASUS board would be suitable;

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=2579&l1=3&l2=11&l3=812&l4=0

Andrew

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Halim Sahin wrote:

> Hi,
> There are some mainboard chips available.
> i think we can build vdr's based on a onboard nvidia chip with vdpau.
> BR.
> halim
>
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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-14 Thread Halim Sahin 
Hi,
There are some mainboard chips available.
i think we can build vdr's based on a onboard nvidia chip with vdpau.
BR.
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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-14 Thread Jan Willies 
Goga777 schrieb:
> new nice benchmarks from Phoronix
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_vdpau_gpu&num=1
> HD Video Playback With A $20 CPU & $30 GPU On Linux

As far as I can see there is no (cheap) PCI/AGP-Version of a 
VDPAU-enabled nvidia chip available :/

I guess it needs to be a cheap IGP then, like the GeForce 8200 or 8300.


- jan

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-12-11 Thread Goga777 
new nice benchmarks from Phoronix
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_vdpau_gpu&num=1
HD Video Playback With A $20 CPU & $30 GPU On Linux

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-27 Thread Newsy Paper 
isn't there support for VDPAU support for xine if you compile xine with option 
--with-externel-ffmpeg ?

kind regards


Newsy


--- HighlyCaffeinated <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Di, 25.11.2008:

> Von: HighlyCaffeinated <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Betreff: Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia
> An: vdr@linuxtv.org
> Datum: Dienstag, 25. November 2008, 15:13
> I'm new to using git to obtain sources, and can't
> seem to get the vdpau sources into my
> local ffmpeg git tree. In /usr/local/src/VDPAU i've
> pulled the ffmpeg
> sources creating a ffmpeg-git directory with the usual
> ffmpeg data in
> it. I then try to pull the vdpau sources with  "git
> clone --reference
> /usr/local/src/VDPAU/ffmpeg-git
> git://repo.or.cz/FFMpeg-mirror/ffmpeg-vdpau.git". This
> creates a
> ffmpeg-vdpau directory with nothing but .git in it; no
> sources. Anyone
> with more experince in this have any pointers on what I am
> doing wrong? 
> I'm in the US running vdr 1.6.0-2 on an AMD x2 4600+
> using ffmpeg
> and xine and have no problems with HD MPEG2 and H264 up to
> 1080i (some
> occasional stuttering), but the 1080p channels fail
> miserably. While
> waiting patiently for xine to support VDPAU, I'd like
> to get the driver
> and ffmpeg working with Mplayer to try things out.
> 
> Thanks
> Todd
> 
> 
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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-25 Thread VDR User 
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Niels Wagenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yes it's nice!  My goal is diskless, fanless, low power consumption
>> dedicated HDTV box.  Very small, very low cost!
>
> I again agree :) I would like an additional HDTV box in my bedroom. It
> needs to have the options you wrote. But I don't want a Popcorn or some
> other kind of device. I want the option to enhance it myself (flexability)
> so I'm waiting desperately for GPU based decoding of H264 and VC-1
> transport streams :)

I know many guys who have their mouth watering at Popcorn Hour but I
just don't see the reason to be so excited.  I guess I'm more the kind
of guy who likes the flexibility as you've stated.  I've never been a
fan of stb's either.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-25 Thread HighlyCaffeinated 
I'm new to using git to obtain sources, and can't seem to get the vdpau sources 
into my
local ffmpeg git tree. In /usr/local/src/VDPAU i've pulled the ffmpeg
sources creating a ffmpeg-git directory with the usual ffmpeg data in
it. I then try to pull the vdpau sources with  "git clone --reference
/usr/local/src/VDPAU/ffmpeg-git
git://repo.or.cz/FFMpeg-mirror/ffmpeg-vdpau.git". This creates a
ffmpeg-vdpau directory with nothing but .git in it; no sources. Anyone
with more experince in this have any pointers on what I am doing wrong? 
I'm in the US running vdr 1.6.0-2 on an AMD x2 4600+ using ffmpeg
and xine and have no problems with HD MPEG2 and H264 up to 1080i (some
occasional stuttering), but the 1080p channels fail miserably. While
waiting patiently for xine to support VDPAU, I'd like to get the driver
and ffmpeg working with Mplayer to try things out.

Thanks
Todd



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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-25 Thread Theunis Potgieter 
On 24/11/2008, Petri Helin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Nicolas Huillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > It seems that things are really moving, and VDR-HD may finally work with
> > cheap hardware by the time HD material is commonplace.
> >
>
>
> Well, in that case it is a good time for broadcasters to implement
> copy protection, chipset pairing in CAM etc...
>
>
> -Petri


If that is the case, how will have to proceed?
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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-25 Thread Niels Wagenaar 
Op Di, 25 november, 2008 03:59, schreef VDR User:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Nicolas Huillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> It's still good news to know that open-source software allowing current
>> fanless integrated motherboards to decode HDTV at ~10% CPU is on its
>> way...
>>
>> Going from 87% of 2 cores, to ~10% of an entry level CPU is good,
>> specially when the load is taken care of by existing chips.
>

I agree on that point. I would rather have ~10% or ~20% then the regular
57% per core on my Core 2 Quad system when I view H264 channels of my
provider.

> Yes, I agree.  Just pointing out that you certainly do not need a quad
> core, that's all.  Also, the price of the cpu is the same whether
> you're using 87% or 10% of it. ;)  The point is you can already have
> cheap HDTV without using the new Nvidia api.
>

Well, in my case I do. When I view BBCHD, ArteHD, AnixeHD or the AstraHD
channels I don't encounter many problems. Image is clear and no stutter.
But as soon as I watch the 1080i/H264 channels of my provider (Canal
Digitaal) on Astra 23.5e, I have major stuttering. BravaTV in HD doesn't
have much problems, but NGC HD and Discovery HD is an other matter. My
Core 2 Duo just couldn't handle it with FFMPeg and Xine-lib 1.2. But since
I've put in a Core 2 Quad, I'm able to watch those channels even with fast
moving images :)

>> I'd like to have full-HDTV on a single x86 mini-ITX board. I'm now
>> seeing this will happen soon enough, and I'll wait until then before I
>> spend money on new hardware.
>
> Yes it's nice!  My goal is diskless, fanless, low power consumption
> dedicated HDTV box.  Very small, very low cost!
>

I again agree :) I would like an additional HDTV box in my bedroom. It
needs to have the options you wrote. But I don't want a Popcorn or some
other kind of device. I want the option to enhance it myself (flexability)
so I'm waiting desperately for GPU based decoding of H264 and VC-1
transport streams :)

Niels Wagenaar



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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread VDR User 
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Nicolas Huillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's still good news to know that open-source software allowing current
> fanless integrated motherboards to decode HDTV at ~10% CPU is on its way...
>
> Going from 87% of 2 cores, to ~10% of an entry level CPU is good,
> specially when the load is taken care of by existing chips.

Yes, I agree.  Just pointing out that you certainly do not need a quad
core, that's all.  Also, the price of the cpu is the same whether
you're using 87% or 10% of it. ;)  The point is you can already have
cheap HDTV without using the new Nvidia api.

> I'd like to have full-HDTV on a single x86 mini-ITX board. I'm now
> seeing this will happen soon enough, and I'll wait until then before I
> spend money on new hardware.

Yes it's nice!  My goal is diskless, fanless, low power consumption
dedicated HDTV box.  Very small, very low cost!

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread Nicolas Huillard 
VDR User a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Niels Wagenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Currently I need to use a Core 2 Quad (Q6600 @ 2.40GHz) to get decent and
>> stutter-free H264 decoding using software (FFMpeg SVN, Xine-lib 1.2,
>> Xine-UI and vdr-xine plugin). With my Core 2 Duo (E7300 @ 2.53Ghz) I
>> didn't had enough juice (stuttering, framedrops, etc).
> 
> You absolutely do not need a quad-core CPU and your Core 2 Duo should
> easily handle h264 decoding.  I'd say something was misconfigured or
> so.
> 
> Btw, I use CoreAVC here and the cpu usage doesn't go above about 87%
> on that x2 4400.  The h264 implimentation in ffmpeg was very unstable
> when I tried it although I heard it's gotten much better.

It's still good news to know that open-source software allowing current 
fanless integrated motherboards to decode HDTV at ~10% CPU is on its way...

Going from 87% of 2 cores, to ~10% of an entry level CPU is good, 
specially when the load is taken care of by existing chips.
I'd like to have full-HDTV on a single x86 mini-ITX board. I'm now 
seeing this will happen soon enough, and I'll wait until then before I 
spend money on new hardware.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread Artem Makhutov 
Hi,

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:43:14AM -0800, VDR User wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Niels Wagenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Only, in the US most of the HDTV transports don't use H264. At least, I
> > heard from several people that it's HDTV through MPEG2. Over here (Europe)
> > it's mostly HDTV through H264 (only a very small number of MPEG2 HDTV
> > channels over here).
> 
> You've been given bad information.  There are _some_ HDTV channels
> broadcast in mpeg2 but most are h264.
> 
> > Currently I need to use a Core 2 Quad (Q6600 @ 2.40GHz) to get decent and
> > stutter-free H264 decoding using software (FFMpeg SVN, Xine-lib 1.2,
> > Xine-UI and vdr-xine plugin). With my Core 2 Duo (E7300 @ 2.53Ghz) I
> > didn't had enough juice (stuttering, framedrops, etc).
> 
> You absolutely do not need a quad-core CPU and your Core 2 Duo should
> easily handle h264 decoding.  I'd say something was misconfigured or
> so.
> 
> Btw, I use CoreAVC here and the cpu usage doesn't go above about 87%
> on that x2 4400.  The h264 implimentation in ffmpeg was very unstable
> when I tried it although I heard it's gotten much better.

And what resolution?

720p ?

I have no problems in decoding 720p, but 1080i is a bit more difficult to 
decode.
I have also tried out CoreAVC, but ffmpeg worked better for me.

Regards, Artem

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread VDR User 
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Niels Wagenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Only, in the US most of the HDTV transports don't use H264. At least, I
> heard from several people that it's HDTV through MPEG2. Over here (Europe)
> it's mostly HDTV through H264 (only a very small number of MPEG2 HDTV
> channels over here).

You've been given bad information.  There are _some_ HDTV channels
broadcast in mpeg2 but most are h264.

> Currently I need to use a Core 2 Quad (Q6600 @ 2.40GHz) to get decent and
> stutter-free H264 decoding using software (FFMpeg SVN, Xine-lib 1.2,
> Xine-UI and vdr-xine plugin). With my Core 2 Duo (E7300 @ 2.53Ghz) I
> didn't had enough juice (stuttering, framedrops, etc).

You absolutely do not need a quad-core CPU and your Core 2 Duo should
easily handle h264 decoding.  I'd say something was misconfigured or
so.

Btw, I use CoreAVC here and the cpu usage doesn't go above about 87%
on that x2 4400.  The h264 implimentation in ffmpeg was very unstable
when I tried it although I heard it's gotten much better.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread Niels Wagenaar 
Op Ma, 24 november, 2008 16:50, schreef VDR User:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Nicolas Huillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> It seems that things are really moving, and VDR-HD may finally work with
>> cheap hardware by the time HD material is commonplace.
>
> You must live under a rock if HD content isn't already common where
> you live/from your provider!  Here is NA there's tons of HD channels,
> with many more coming soon.

Only, in the US most of the HDTV transports don't use H264. At least, I
heard from several people that it's HDTV through MPEG2. Over here (Europe)
it's mostly HDTV through H264 (only a very small number of MPEG2 HDTV
channels over here).

And H264 is the real problem over here and it all comes down to CPU
decoding (FFMpeg or CoreAVC for Linux) or by using a device like the Reel
HD Extension.

Currently I need to use a Core 2 Quad (Q6600 @ 2.40GHz) to get decent and
stutter-free H264 decoding using software (FFMpeg SVN, Xine-lib 1.2,
Xine-UI and vdr-xine plugin). With my Core 2 Duo (E7300 @ 2.53Ghz) I
didn't had enough juice (stuttering, framedrops, etc).

That's why I do enjoy all this news about hardware accelerated H264
decoding on the GPU. Most of the motherboards have a GPU with this kind of
features, to bad we can't use it in Linux/Xorg :(

Regards,

Niels Wagenaar



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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread VDR User 
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Nicolas Huillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems that things are really moving, and VDR-HD may finally work with
> cheap hardware by the time HD material is commonplace.

You must live under a rock if HD content isn't already common where
you live/from your provider!  Here is NA there's tons of HD channels,
with many more coming soon.

Also, building a HD-capable pc is already cheap.  You don't need some
expensive cpu with GB's of ram and so on.  My test box (which uses the
on-board gpu) does HD and was only cpu-$40 + ram-$25 + mainboard-$65.
cpu is amd x2 4400, corsair 2x1GB stick ram kit, mainboard is msi
k9n6sgm-v.  $130 USD and I had a new dvb test box that does HDTV.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread Petri Helin 
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Nicolas Huillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems that things are really moving, and VDR-HD may finally work with
> cheap hardware by the time HD material is commonplace.
>

Well, in that case it is a good time for broadcasters to implement
copy protection, chipset pairing in CAM etc...

-Petri

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread Nicolas Huillard 
Goga777 a écrit :
>> Competition with Intel benefits us all :)
> 
> the first test report here is
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_vdpau&num=2
> 
> NVIDIA VDPAU Benchmarks

Starting from there, I stumbled upon VIA open-source initiative now 
effective:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01253.html
http://wiki.openchrome.org/pipermail/openchrome-devel/2008-November/000121.html

iDCT, MC and MPEG4 acceleration are low on the list, but the goal is to 
replace the VIA driver with Openchrome, meaning that VIA will support 
FOSS developpers...

It seems that things are really moving, and VDR-HD may finally work with 
cheap hardware by the time HD material is commonplace.

-- 
NH

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-15 Thread Tony Houghton 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:23:49 -0800 (PST)
lucian orasanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Man this is awesome , nice mouve from Nvidia guys, and wen I think about I 
> give aweay for free my GF8500 and switcht to ati! now i have to buy a new one 
> or wait ati to mouve?

I just bought a new HTPC motherboard with ATI graphics this week :-(.
It's not all bad news for ATI users though:


-- 
TH * http://www.realh.co.uk

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[vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-15 Thread lucian orasanu 
Hy all

  Man this is awesome , nice mouve from Nvidia guys, and wen I think about I 
give aweay for free my GF8500 and switcht to ati! now i have to buy a new one 
or wait ati to mouve?


  

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-14 Thread Alex Betis 
Good news!

Competition with Intel benefits us all :)

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Goga777 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> FROM XORG lIST
>
>
> I'm pleased to announce a new video API for Unix and Unix-like platforms,
> and a technology preview implementation of this API from NVIDIA.
>
> The API is called VDPAU (Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix).
>
> The current API documentation is here:
>
> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/vdpau/doxygen/html/index.html
>
> Some highlights of VDPAU:
>
> * Defines an API for GPU-accelerated decode of MPEG-1, MPEG-2, H.264,
> and
>   VC-1 bitstreams.
> * Defines an API for post-processing of decoded video, including
>   temporal and spatial deinterlacing, inverse telecine, and noise
>   reduction.
> * Defines an API for timestamp-based presentation of final video
>   frames.
> * Defines an API for compositing sub-picture, on-screen display,
>   and other UI elements.
>
> Note that VDPAU does not address content protection.
>
> Some highlights/limitations of NVIDIA's current implementation:
>
> * Supported on NVIDIA GPUs with the NVIDIA second generation video
>   processors (see the end of this announcement for a complete GPU
> list).
> * Currently, only one video stream can be decoded at a time; we hope
>   to lift this restriction eventually.
> * Available in the 180.06 NVIDIA public beta release:
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.06.html
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.06.html
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_180.06.html
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris_display_180.06.html
>
> The VDPAU support in the NVIDIA 180.06 beta release is still very
> preliminary.  We are aware of cases of visual corruption and in some
> cases GPU hangs.  We will be working on these issues over the next
> several NVIDIA driver releases.
>
> While NVIDIA's VDPAU implementation is not ready for end user use yet,
> it should be far enough along that interested application developers
> can begin working with it.
>
> Additionally, NVIDIA has developed patches to ffmpeg and MPlayer to
> demonstrate a video player using VDPAU:
>
> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/vdpau/mplayer-vdpau-3076399.tar.bz2
>
> These patches include changes against libavcodec, libavutil, ffmpeg,
> and MPlayer itself; they may serve as an example of how to use VDPAU.
>
> Once we do some further testing, bugfixing, and cleanup, we will
> contribute the MPlayer patches to the MPlayer developers.
>
>
> If other hardware vendors are interested, they are welcome to also
> provide implementations of VDPAU.  The VDPAU API was designed to allow
> a vendor backend to be selected at run time.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Andy Ritger
> Manager, NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver
>
>
>
> VDPAU is currently supported on the following NVIDIA GPUs:
>
> Desktop GPUs:
>  GeForce 200 Series
>  GeForce 9 Series
>  GeForce 86xx Series
>  GeForce 85xx Series
>  GeForce 84xx Series
>  GeForce 8800 GTS 512
>  GeForce 8800 GT
>  GeForce 8800 GS
>
> Mobile GPUs:
>  GeForce 98xxM
>  GeForce 9700M
>  GeForce 96xxM
>  GeForce 9500M
>  GeForce 9300M
>  GeForce 9200M
>  GeForce 8800M
>  GeForce 8800M GTS
>  GeForce 8800M GTX
>  GeForce 8600M
>
> Motherboard GPUs:
>  GeForce 9400
>  GeForce 9300
>  GeForce 9100
>  GeForce 8300
>  GeForce 8200
>
> VC-1 support in NVIDIA's VDPAU implementation currently requires GeForce
> 9300 GS, GeForce 9200M GS, GeForce 9300M GS, or GeForce 9300M GS.
>
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[vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-14 Thread Goga777 
FROM XORG lIST


I'm pleased to announce a new video API for Unix and Unix-like platforms,
and a technology preview implementation of this API from NVIDIA.

The API is called VDPAU (Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix).

The current API documentation is here:

 ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/vdpau/doxygen/html/index.html

Some highlights of VDPAU:

 * Defines an API for GPU-accelerated decode of MPEG-1, MPEG-2, H.264, and
   VC-1 bitstreams.
 * Defines an API for post-processing of decoded video, including
   temporal and spatial deinterlacing, inverse telecine, and noise
   reduction.
 * Defines an API for timestamp-based presentation of final video
   frames.
 * Defines an API for compositing sub-picture, on-screen display,
   and other UI elements.

Note that VDPAU does not address content protection.

Some highlights/limitations of NVIDIA's current implementation:

 * Supported on NVIDIA GPUs with the NVIDIA second generation video
   processors (see the end of this announcement for a complete GPU list).
 * Currently, only one video stream can be decoded at a time; we hope
   to lift this restriction eventually.
 * Available in the 180.06 NVIDIA public beta release:
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.06.html
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.06.html
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_180.06.html
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris_display_180.06.html

The VDPAU support in the NVIDIA 180.06 beta release is still very
preliminary.  We are aware of cases of visual corruption and in some
cases GPU hangs.  We will be working on these issues over the next
several NVIDIA driver releases.

While NVIDIA's VDPAU implementation is not ready for end user use yet,
it should be far enough along that interested application developers
can begin working with it.

Additionally, NVIDIA has developed patches to ffmpeg and MPlayer to
demonstrate a video player using VDPAU:

 ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/vdpau/mplayer-vdpau-3076399.tar.bz2

These patches include changes against libavcodec, libavutil, ffmpeg,
and MPlayer itself; they may serve as an example of how to use VDPAU.

Once we do some further testing, bugfixing, and cleanup, we will
contribute the MPlayer patches to the MPlayer developers.


If other hardware vendors are interested, they are welcome to also
provide implementations of VDPAU.  The VDPAU API was designed to allow
a vendor backend to be selected at run time.


Thanks,
Andy Ritger
Manager, NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver



VDPAU is currently supported on the following NVIDIA GPUs:

 Desktop GPUs:
  GeForce 200 Series
  GeForce 9 Series
  GeForce 86xx Series
  GeForce 85xx Series
  GeForce 84xx Series
  GeForce 8800 GTS 512
  GeForce 8800 GT
  GeForce 8800 GS

 Mobile GPUs:
  GeForce 98xxM
  GeForce 9700M
  GeForce 96xxM
  GeForce 9500M
  GeForce 9300M
  GeForce 9200M
  GeForce 8800M
  GeForce 8800M GTS
  GeForce 8800M GTX
  GeForce 8600M

 Motherboard GPUs:
  GeForce 9400
  GeForce 9300
  GeForce 9100
  GeForce 8300
  GeForce 8200

VC-1 support in NVIDIA's VDPAU implementation currently requires GeForce
9300 GS, GeForce 9200M GS, GeForce 9300M GS, or GeForce 9300M GS.

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