Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Dominic Evans]

On 20/05/12 22:48, Marx wrote:

Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards
works without any problems on stock linux kernel.


I use a pair of Technisat SkyStar USB HD (DVB-S/S2) tuners [1] for 
Satellite and a pair of Sony PlayTV devices for DVB-T.


This has been a stable setup for me. Currently running unmodified 3.2.0 
kernel.


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[1] These show in lsusb as 14f7:0500 TechniSat Digital GmbH DVB-PC TV 
Star HD



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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Dominic Evans]

On 21/05/12 11:40, Dominic Evans wrote:

On 20/05/12 22:48, Marx wrote:

Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards
works without any problems on stock linux kernel.


I use a pair of Technisat SkyStar USB HD (DVB-S/S2) tuners [1] for
Satellite and a pair of Sony PlayTV devices for DVB-T.

This has been a stable setup for me. Currently running unmodified 3.2.0
kernel.


In particular, I rate the Sony PlayTV tuners highly. The external USB 
box has good shielding, and provides a single antenna cable --> built-in 
dual tuner solution. Its also cheap and easy to find in regular shops :)



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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Dominic Evans]

On 21 May 2012 00:37, Torgeir Veimo  wrote:
> You can get a sony playtv, they are dual tuner and it's mostly plug
> and play, except for intermittent noise from time to time (suspecting
> retuning second tuner for eit scanning causing noise on first tuner).

Hmm, I've not seen this issue. Do you have it connected direct to
machine USB port? I have mine on an external powered USB hub.

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Re: [vdr] Betr: Bad choices of USB cards

[Marx]

On 21.05.2012 05:17, cedric.dew...@telfort.nl wrote:

PCTV NanoStick 73e SE (solo)

nice idea, it's cheap enough, thank you
Marx


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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Marx]

On 21.05.2012 01:37, Torgeir Veimo wrote:

You can get a sony playtv, they are dual tuner and it's mostly plug
and play, except for intermittent noise from time to time (suspecting
retuning second tuner for eit scanning causing noise on first tuner).


Thank you, but this tuner is DVB-T only and rather pricey
Marx


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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Marx]

On 21.05.2012 12:40, Dominic Evans wrote:

Technisat SkyStar USB HD
Hmm it's probably good choice, I had mantis based card (PCI) and it was 
working very good.


I today found patch from Igor Liplianin about Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD 
Rev.2

http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/0/
and will try to patch 3.2 source to try it. Has it chance to work or 
should I download all linux-media?
I was trying to use linux-media-dkms from yavdr but it din't work (it 
was giving errors that modules are bad symbols or sth)

Marx


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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Torgeir Veimo]

On 21 May 2012 21:46, Marx  wrote:
> On 21.05.2012 01:37, Torgeir Veimo wrote:
>>
>> You can get a sony playtv, they are dual tuner and it's mostly plug
>> and play, except for intermittent noise from time to time (suspecting
>> retuning second tuner for eit scanning causing noise on first tuner).
>
>
> Thank you, but this tuner is DVB-T only and rather pricey

Yes it's DVB-T only, but seems to be going very cheap everywhere at the moment.

>
> Marx
>
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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Marx]

On 21.05.2012 13:53, Marx wrote:

On 21.05.2012 12:40, Dominic Evans wrote:

Technisat SkyStar USB HD

Hmm it's probably good choice, I had mantis based card (PCI) and it was
working very good.

I today found patch from Igor Liplianin about Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD
Rev.2
http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/0/
and will try to patch 3.2 source to try it. Has it chance to work or
should I download all linux-media?
I was trying to use linux-media-dkms from yavdr but it din't work (it
was giving errors that modules are bad symbols or sth)


Can't apply patch to 3.2.17 sources. Does anybody knows what do I need 
to apply it?

Marx


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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Juergen Lock]

In article <5f5o89-7n7@wuwek.kopernik.gliwice.pl> you write:
>Hello
Hi!

>I use VDR a few years, but lately I changed my system into ITX (AMD 
>Brazos) and so changed PCI DVB-S2 card into USB. Additionaly I has 
>bought DVB-T tuner.
>While buying hardware I was sure I buy hardware which is supported 
>in-kernel, so no need to hunt for driver.
>Unfortunatelly every from three card I have doesn't work properly.
>
>The first: Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD.
>Kernel has drivers, but only for the first revision. Second revision 
>which I have need a patch. Patch is even on linux-media 
>http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/10294/ , but isn't finished so no 
>hope to have it in kernel soon.
>Anyway I have applied it's modified version from 
>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653026 to kernel 3.2 
>and it's almost work. Almost, because sometimes recording becames 
>unplayable. Recording recors eveything, but I can play only some part of 
>file from beginning. The rest is unplayable.
>
>Looking for something widely used I choosed Pinnacle PCTV SAT HDTV 452E 
>PRO USB. Problems with it i've described in thread: "[PATCH, RFC] 
>STB0899 signal strength (pctv452e, others too?)"
>
I have been using this card on FreeBSD as well as its `cousin'
TT S2-3600 which uses the same driver with various versions of
webcamd which used various versions of the Linux v4l/dvb tree
(media_tree), first with bits from s2-liplianin merged in and since
(I think) 3.2 using the pctv452e.c driver that was committed to the
vanilla media_tree, and rarely ever had issues.  Currently I'm using
webcamd 3.5.0.2 which uses a snapshot of the for_3.5 branch of
media_tree...

http://www.freshports.org/multimedia/webcamd


http://git.linuxtv.org/media_tree.git/shortlog/aa6d5f29534a6d1459f9768c591a7a72aadc5941

>The last miss was buying USB DVB-T stick based on Af9015. Generally it 
>works, but only a few minutes. I suspect it overheats...
>
>So I ask: if somebody has one of cards above working, please give me a 
>note with which kernel and with which driver it does work.
>
>Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards 
>works without any problems on stock linux kernel.

 I have been testing various other usb tuners (mainly dvb-t) on FreeBSD
with webcamd (which as mentioned above uses linux' media_tree), see
my (nox) entries on this page on the FreeBSD wiki:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/WebcamCompat

 Besides the pctv452e/TT S2-3600 dvb-s2 tuners which _I_ had not
many issues with I successfully tested the following dvb-t tuners
using dib0700 hardware:

PCTV NanoStick 73e SE (solo)[single tuner]
Hauppauge Nova-TD model 1172[dual tuner]

 The Sony PlayTV which was mentioned later in this thread seems to
use dib0700 hardware too, but at least here it seems to be much more
expensive than the Nova-TD.

 (And the two af9015 tuners I tested didn't overheat but used to
hang themselves up needing a temporary unplug when left running on
vdr for a day or less, this _seems_ to be better with recent media_tree
versions but I still had to restart at least vdr when it happened.
You can reduce the probability for this to happen with vdr tho:
change the osd setting "Setup -> DVB -> Update channels" to "names
and PIDs" or lower.)

 HTH,
Juergen

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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Henning Pingel]

Am 21.05.2012 15:09, schrieb Marx:


Can't apply patch to 3.2.17 sources. Does anybody knows what do I need 
to apply it?
Marx 


Hi,

The package linux-media-dkms (0~20120507.git265.301694~precise) [1] 
crafted by the yaVDR team for Ubuntu Precise (kernel 3.2) contains the 
patches to make the Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD Rev.2 work. I myself am 
currently testing such a USB box with this driver package. Except for a 
few glitches it works quite well for me (USB box are connected to an 
active multiswitch).


More information on different patch versions can be found here [2].

Cheers,
Henning

[1] 


[2] 

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Re: [vdr] Recording does not stop

[brian]

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Re: [vdr] Recording does not stop

[brian]

On 05/18/2012 05:04 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 18.05.2012 15:32, brian wrote:

On 05/18/2012 10:04 AM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 18.05.2012 09:49, brian wrote:

On 05/01/2012 01:28 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 01.05.2012 13:07, brian wrote:

On 05/01/2012 11:54 AM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 01.05.2012 07:50, brian wrote:

Hi,
doing some pretty heavy testing of VDR 1.7.21 as part of 
gen2vdr V3 and have now twice had the case
that a recording did not end. Supposed to end at 23:10 
yesterday, still going strong at 06:00 this
morning. Can't find anything in the history file of VDR that 
this is a know problem and has been fixed in

later versions.
Here is some of the log:

Apr 30 21:59:00 [vdr] [2496] timer 1 (1 2159-2310 'Silent 
Witness') start
Apr 30 21:59:00 [vdr] [2496] Title: 'Silent Witness' Subtitle: 
'Fear - Part Two'
Apr 30 21:59:00 [vdr] [2496] executing '/tmp/vdr/vdr_record 
before "/video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec"'
Apr 30 21:59:00 [logger] BJD g2v_record.sh Called: 0 = 
/tmp/vdr/vdr_record
Apr 30 21:59:00 [logger] 2012-04-30 21:59 /tmp/vdr/vdr_record 
before /video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec
Apr 30 21:59:00 [logger] /usr/sbin/mailtext: Started Start 
2012-04-30 21.59 Silent Witness.
Apr 30 21:59:00 [logger] [g2v_rec_msg.sh] Silent Witness: Warte 
auf Verzeichnis

- Last output repeated 2 times -
Apr 30 21:59:01 [sSMTP] Sent mail for brian_dorl...@t-online.de 
(221 2.0.0 fwd22.t-online.de closing. / Verbindung wird 
getrennt.) u
Apr 30 21:59:01 [logger] Apr 30 21:59:01 gen2vdr 
sendemail[3863]: Email was sent successfully!

Apr 30 21:59:01 [logger] /usr/sbin/mailtext: Done
Apr 30 21:59:01 [vdr] [2496] record 
/video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec
Apr 30 21:59:01 [vdr] [2496] creating directory 
/video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec
Apr 30 21:59:02 [vdr] [2496] recording to 
'/video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec/1.ts'



Doesn't seem to try to end at 23:10

Apr 30 22:59:50 [vdr] [2738] channel 1 (BBC 1 London) event Mon 
30.04.2012 23:00-23:25 'BBC News' status 4
Apr 30 23:00:01 [cron] (root) CMD (rm -f 
/var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly)
Apr 30 23:01:59 [vdr] [2734] read incomplete section - len = 
428, r = 214

Apr 30 23:12:36 [ntpd] peer 213.198.55.2 now valid
Apr 30 23:12:39 [ntpd] peer 129.70.132.36 now valid
Apr 30 23:12:48 [ntpd] peer 178.63.99.230 now valid
Apr 30 23:14:41 [vdr] [3935] recording to 
'/video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec/2.ts'
Apr 30 23:18:11 [kernel] lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 
4f9f0193 4f9f0190 87401 aa74b

Apr 30 23:20:41 [ntpd] skew change -36.162 exceeds limit
Apr 30 23:20:41 [ntpd] clock is now synced


Still going strong:

May 01 00:07:37 [vdr] [2738] channel 1 (BBC 1 London) event Tue 
01.05.2012 00:05-00:35 'Late Kick Off' status 4
May 01 00:19:30 [vdr] [3935] recording to 
'/video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec/3.ts'
May 01 00:24:40 [vdr] [2779] TVTV: Packed String: 
DKVxHLuoiXDxsDu98Eavvg==


May 01 01:23:04 [vdr] [3935] recording to 
'/video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec/4.ts'



Deleted the timer manually:

May 01 06:37:39 [vdr] [2496] timer 1 (1 2159-2310 'Silent 
Witness') stop
May 01 06:37:39 [vdr] [2496] executing '/tmp/vdr/vdr_record 
after "/video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec"'
May 01 06:37:39 [logger] BJD g2v_record.sh Called: 0 = 
/tmp/vdr/vdr_record
May 01 06:37:39 [logger] 2012-05-01 06:37 /tmp/vdr/vdr_record 
after /video/Silent_Witness/2012-04-30.21.59.1-0.rec
May 01 06:37:39 [logger] /usr/sbin/mailtext: Started End 
2012-04-30 21.59 Silent Witness.
May 01 06:37:39 [vdr] [3939] TS buffer on device 3 thread ended 
(pid=2496, tid=3939)

May 01 06:37:39 [vdr] [3936] buffer stats: 95316 (4%) used
May 01 06:37:39 [vdr] [3936] receiver on device 3 thread ended 
(pid=2496, tid=3936)


Any ideas?


Did this happen only once, or is it reproducible?

Is this "plain vanilla" VDR or are there any patches involved.
I never had this problem with plain vanilla VDR.

Klaus


Moin,

second time now. Its the standard gen2vdr distribution so various 
patches and plugins I guess.


I am not trying to use VPS, can I rule that out due to the 
messages shown?


Since there is no VPS keyword in the timer line at

Apr 30 21:59:00 [vdr] [2496] timer 1 (1 2159-2310 'Silent 
Witness') start


it's safe to assume that VPS is not being used.

>Apr 30 23:01:59 [vdr] [2734] read incomplete section - len = 
428, r = 214


Is the above message important?


No.


I'll try to strip it down then and see if it reoccurs.


Try to get rid of as many patches as possible (preferably all of 
them ;-).

And use only the plugin necessary for output, nothing else.

Klaus



Hi Klaus,

without plugins up till now no problems till yesterday evening. The 
VDR is still up, but not recording anything,

no disk activity at all.

May 17 21:59:03 [vdr] [2513] SVDRP message: 'Aufnahme: Close~Lost 
in Translation'

May 17 21:59:04 [vdr] [2513] info: Aufnahme: Close~L

Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Marx]

W dniu 2012-05-21 21:50, Henning Pingel pisze:

Am 21.05.2012 15:09, schrieb Marx:


Can't apply patch to 3.2.17 sources. Does anybody knows what do I need
to apply it?
Marx


Hi,

The package linux-media-dkms (0~20120507.git265.301694~precise) [1]
crafted by the yaVDR team for Ubuntu Precise (kernel 3.2) contains the
patches to make the Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD Rev.2 work. I myself am
currently testing such a USB box with this driver package. Except for a
few glitches it works quite well for me (USB box are connected to an
active multiswitch).



I've tried this dkms a few days ago and it didn't work. Modules made by 
dkms lacked some symbols (I don't know how it's possible if they 
compiled without problem). Maybe scripts doesn't play well with Debian 
kernel (3.2) or maybe I had bad version of kernel headers?


I will try it again, but it lasts very long time to install and 
uninstall this package (don't even think to remove some kernel if you 
have this dkms installed - better remove dkms and then remove kernel 
version)


A few minutes ago I've tried Igor Liplianin's tree from
http://pikacode.com/liplianin/s2-liplianin-v35/
but it also didn't work - card isn't recognized (no dev/dvb).
I've tried
modprobe dvb-usb-dw2102
but it only outputs:
[ 2926.380171] usbcore: registered new interface driver dw2102
and still no device available
Marx


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Re: [vdr] Bad choices of USB cards

[Mika Laitio]

> Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards
> works without any problems on stock linux kernel.

Hi, I just bought 19 euro Fujitech DVT Pro DVB-T usb stick which
seems to use Realtek RTL2832U chipset. USB stick also includes small
remote control, but I have not tested yet whether that can be used from
linux.

lsusb shows the device as:
1d19:1101 Dexatek Technology Ltd. DK DVB-T Dongle

Driver is not in the mainline kernel, but driver version which builded
ok with 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2 (mageia) kernel was available in
git://github.com/tmair/DVB-Realtek-RTL2832U-2.2.2-10tuner-mod_kernel-3.0.0.git.
According to it's readme the same chipset is also in use with following
other usb sticks:

  DIKOM USB-DVBT HD (ID 1b80:d394)
  NILOX DVB-T Stick N15 (ID 1b80:d393)
  TRUST 16738 (ID 0bda:2832)
  TERRATEC Cinergy T Stick BLACK (ID 0ccd:00a9)
  TX Hollywood DVTB (ID 1d19:1101)
  DIGIVOX mini II v3.0 (ID 1d19:1101)

Installation for me was easy operation with steps written down below:
1) git clone
git://github.com/tmair/DVB-Realtek-RTL2832U-2.2.2-10tuner-mod_kernel-3.0.0.git
2) cd
DVB-Realtek-RTL2832U-2.2.2-10tuner-mod_kernel-3.0.0/RTL2832-2.2.2_kernel-3.0.0
3) changed KDIR from makefile:
  -KDIR = /usr/src/kernels/`uname -r`
  +KDIR =/usr/src/linux-`uname -r`
4) Make
5) Make install
6) Plug the usb stick: --> dvb_usb_rtl2832u module gets loaded
7) scan channels: scan -5 -o vdr /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/fi-Kerimaki >
channels.conf

Scan util had from dvb-apps-1.1.1-8.hg1465.1.mga2 had some problems and
to be able to find out all channels, I needed to split the
/usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/fi-Kerimaki scan frequence file to multiple smaller
ones each containing single line.

I do not have any idea whether somebody is working at the moment for
trying to get this driver pushed to mainline kernel. At least for me it
has now worked ok for 1 week.

Mika

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