Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Chuck,

Does this look familiar to you? 

/Nick


*- Original Message -*
*From: Chuck Alexander *
*To: v...@troutnet.com *
*Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:03 PM*
*Subject: [VFB] Any More Bream Flyfishers here???*

*Folks: I live in N.E. but more like E Central as I'm 60 miles due East of
Birmingham, AL, and the only trout here are a few in the mountain stream,
but it is ALL Nat'l forrest and of course, all but impossible to get to
without hiking fo rdays, and with my bad back and hip it's just not an
option.. So, I flyfish for bream and sunfish  (cause in Bama there have
been four pound bluegill caught NO fish tale there LOL)...Anyway, went to
my favorite watershed here yesterday afternoon to try out my early fathers
day fish/deptfinder, and the surface water temp is about 84.5 degrees, and
85 degrees drives the bluegills etc back into deeper (cooler) water.. So, I
didn't catch anything much cause I have been using bream killer "water bug"
flies, and tearin em up on the bed.. But, now, any suggestions to pull em
out of the deeper water??? I know I'll have to go to a sinking wet fly, but
which types would be best??? Thanks in advance.. Chuck da Newbie Flyfisher*

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 12:18 AM Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

> Nick et al: I just tried to look up older post from the group on it’s
> website but it would only scroll back to April 1, 2014. How did you get it
> to go back in time earlier than that?? Thanks, Chuck
>
>
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Niclas (Gmail)
> *Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2019 7:43 AM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore
>
>
>
> I didn't see this until today and I'm very sad to hear this. Jimmy has
> meant much to me. He was one of the guys who grabbed me and got me going
> from the very start when I first joined the VFB in 2004. Checking back in
> my inbox now I can see that the very first VFB-mail I actually got was from
> him... one of his many *QUOTE FOR THE DAY*:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *" When you are next complaining about the selectivity of trout, bear the
> thought in mind: were it not for this fortunate trait, how long would our
> stream fishing last?"Art FlickArt Flick's Streamside Guide [1947]*
>
>  **
>
> *Jimmy D. Moore - Scout Exec. BSA (Ret.)*
>
>
>
> *Author - "MOON HOLLER MISFITS Fishing & Hunting Club", ©  *
>
> *Humorist, half-assed poet,  and sometimes red-neck Texan.*
>
> **
>
> *"Being able to read trout streams is just as valuable to a fly fisherman as 
> the ability to read a defense is to an NFL Quarterback."*
>
>
>
> *Jimmy D. Moore - © [2004]*
>
> **
>
>
>
> /Nick Runarsson
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 5:51 PM Alan Di Somma  wrote:
>
> It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my
> good friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.
>
>
>
> I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it
> if you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.
>
>
>
> When I get more info I will pass it on.
>
>
>
>
>
> *phxflytyer*
>
> *Phoenix,AZ*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> * "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the
> Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American
> Indian."Henry Ford*
>
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Niclas (Gmail)]

30 or 30.000 emails stored on Google's servers makes no difference in the
performance of my own computer, so I've never felt the need to keep my
Gmail inbox nice and tidy. It's inbox and archive in one.

/Nick

Den lör 5 okt. 2019 00:18Chuck Alexander 
skrev:

> Nick et al: I just tried to look up older post from the group on it’s
> website but it would only scroll back to April 1, 2014. How did you get it
> to go back in time earlier than that?? Thanks, Chuck
>
>
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Niclas (Gmail)
> *Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2019 7:43 AM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore
>
>
>
> I didn't see this until today and I'm very sad to hear this. Jimmy has
> meant much to me. He was one of the guys who grabbed me and got me going
> from the very start when I first joined the VFB in 2004. Checking back in
> my inbox now I can see that the very first VFB-mail I actually got was from
> him... one of his many *QUOTE FOR THE DAY*:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *" When you are next complaining about the selectivity of trout, bear the
> thought in mind: were it not for this fortunate trait, how long would our
> stream fishing last?"Art FlickArt Flick's Streamside Guide [1947]*
>
>  **
>
> *Jimmy D. Moore - Scout Exec. BSA (Ret.)*
>
>
>
> *Author - "MOON HOLLER MISFITS Fishing & Hunting Club", ©  *
>
> *Humorist, half-assed poet,  and sometimes red-neck Texan.*
>
> **
>
> *"Being able to read trout streams is just as valuable to a fly fisherman as 
> the ability to read a defense is to an NFL Quarterback."*
>
>
>
> *Jimmy D. Moore - © [2004]*
>
> **
>
>
>
> /Nick Runarsson
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 5:51 PM Alan Di Somma  wrote:
>
> It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my
> good friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.
>
>
>
> I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it
> if you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.
>
>
>
> When I get more info I will pass it on.
>
>
>
>
>
> *phxflytyer*
>
> *Phoenix,AZ*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> * "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the
> Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American
> Indian."Henry Ford*
>
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I didn't see this until today and I'm very sad to hear this. Jimmy has
meant much to me. He was one of the guys who grabbed me and got me going
from the very start when I first joined the VFB in 2004. Checking back in
my inbox now I can see that the very first VFB-mail I actually got was from
him... one of his many *QUOTE FOR THE DAY*:





*" When you are next complaining about the selectivity of trout, bear the
thought in mind: were it not for this fortunate trait, how long would our
stream fishing last?"Art FlickArt Flick's Streamside Guide [1947]*

*

Jimmy D. Moore - Scout Exec. BSA (Ret.)

Author - "MOON HOLLER MISFITS Fishing & Hunting Club", ©
Humorist, half-assed poet,  and sometimes red-neck Texan.

"Being able to read trout streams is just as valuable to a fly
fisherman as the ability to read a defense is to an NFL Quarterback."

Jimmy D. Moore - © [2004]
*


/Nick Runarsson


On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 5:51 PM Alan Di Somma  wrote:

> It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my
> good friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.
>
> I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it
> if you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.
>
> When I get more info I will pass it on.
>
>
> *phxflytyer*
> *Phoenix,AZ*
>
>
>
> * "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the
> Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American
> Indian."Henry Ford*
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Re: [VFB] PRogress from Don Ordes

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Glad to read about progress. Not that I would expect anything else from a
superhero like yourself, but still glad that also you can see it. Mental
health has never been our thing, but there has never been anything wrong
with our mental strength... and that's what counts when it comes to
recovery.

Best wishes from the Swedish Redneck with family. You're in our prayers.

//Nick

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:07 PM, DonO  wrote:

> To all my friends on vfb..  THANKS FOR ALL OFF YOUR PRAYERS AND WELL
> WISHES.
>
> it's me, well, a good part of me anyway.
> The stroke hit my right half (left side of brain) so lost all movement and
> feeling on right side of my body.
> also lost the vision on right side of both eyes.
> so I'm typing with left hand with a small arc of vision.  This is my 1st
> email work since stroke.
>
> I've been home two weeks now and am progressing with therapy and recovery
> very well according to therapists.
> Using my right hand for some things, but still have no feeling, which is
> weird.
> I am doing some walking therapy, but again no feeling.  Hope all feeling
> comes back with time.
>
> Still have appt. with eye doctor next week. Hope he can do something.
> Don't know about the numbness in my face, will have to check later- big
> fallout
> of that is drooling at times, and then the constant numbness..
>
> Had to sell the new home we just bought to get a single level.  All went
> amazingly fast and well. Will post new address soon.
>
> Can't tell you how much of a blessing it is to have a fantastic wife who
> stepped up to the plate as hit nothing but homers since that night.  My
> incredible sister came up from Mesa as has been an a incredible helper for
> both Cheryl and me.
>
> Alan DiSomma is due here Sunday and we will be discussing my fly business
> and what of mine to sell. Plus we'll discuss fate of video projects.
>
> All input is welcome.  Have no idea on what I'll recover after time, but I
> have a lot to get sold to simplify and cover meds.
>
> Well, at the limit of my endurance for now.  Took over an hour for this 5
> minute email.
>
> As you can imagine, I have a lot of recovery time on my hands, so reading
> emails from my friends would be much appreciated and great for my mental
> therapy.  Hope you are all having wonderful summers.
>
> Very Best Regards,
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Neville Gosling
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: VFB
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes
>
> This is a real blow after he was looking so good following loosing weight,
> but time heals and lets pray that he recovers as fully as possible.
> I have a friend in my fishing club that also suffered a stroke that was
> followed my more strokes and it came as a complete shock to everybody. He
> like Don is still in hospital.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> BC Canada
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2018, at 10:58 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> In my prayers
> Arkansas Tony
> 
> On Tue, 5/1/18,   wrote:
>
> Subject: RE: [VFB] Don Ordes
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 12:47 PM
>
> Hello to everyone, this is his
> son, Donny.
>
> Thank you so
> much for all the kind well wishes and words. I was able to
> open Don's email and we read all of your messages to
> him, as he is unable to read much.  He asked me to thank
> everyone and to say hello.
>
> He is still recovering in the therapy unit of
> St. Al's hospital in Boise. When he had the stroke he
> lost the use of the right side of his body. So his arm and
> hand, leg, and even his vision on the right half of his body
> were all affected (he can see out of both eyes, but only
> from his nose to his left side). Unfortunately he is right
> handed, so using his left hand for everything is also
> difficult by itself.
>
> However, he is steadily making progress in his
> recovery and has regained the ability to move his limbs and
> use them to some extent. He still requires a great deal of
> assistance to get up and move, but the therapists are
> optimistic that he will continue to improve. Only time will
> tell how much capability he will recover. He is scheduled to
> be released from the hospital to go home this Thursday, but
> we will continue with having therapists come in to work with
> him to help with his rehab.
>
> Again, thank you all  for your kind words and
> support, I will continue to monitor his emails and forward
> your thoughts and questions to him.
>
> Thank you.
>
> DVO
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> On Behalf Of Rene Zillmann
> Sent: Tuesday,
> May 1, 2018 8:58 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes
>
> All,
>
> are there any updates on Don?
>
> KR
>
> Rene
>
>
> On 04/23/2018 03:44 AM, Phxflytyer wrote:
>
>> Fellow VFB’ers..
>>
>> About two weeks ago
>>
> Don Ordes had a stroke.
>

Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[Niclas (Gmail)]

*"Jack,*
*Are those #32 Tiemco or #32 Mustad?Big/Tiny difference."*

Picture illustrates what Don means with that... Tiemco #32 around Mustad
#32.

/Nick




On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Michael Bliss  wrote:

> Post the url when you are done.  It should be fun to watch
>
> Mike
>
> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:59 PM, DonO  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Well, I surprised myself. My old eyeballs are still up to it.  3 -naked
>> eye #32 RCs.
>>
>> [image: P1010094][image: OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA][image: P1010138]
>> [image: P1010084][image: P1010088]
>>
>> Making a tying video for You tube, worked on it today.  Should post next
>> week. Technically difficult to film.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> DonO
>>
>>
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Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Entertainment is the key to success. Some of us have to stay away from
singing and dancing though. :)

/Nick

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 PM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

> I’m going to work on making the video more entertaining than a normal
> tutorial.  That means a lot of clips of the materials and tools used,
> comparing them to normal.  Then I’ll have section of the actual tie.  Since
> the tie itself is not practical for most tiers, I would think entertainment
> is the ultimate goal. And it’s even very hard to get ahold of the hooks
> these days. I’ll make sure the video clips migrate time to time to me tying
> without glasses or a magnifying glass just for proof of naked-eye tying.  A
> few years more and I’ll probably need a magnifying glass to tie these.
>
> Thread check. I would not know what denier this is, but it’s close to 50/0
> denear as I can tell.  The hand-selected thread I use is so fine that one
> 12”+/- strand of it floats up and away and disappears in a couple of
> seconds, like real baby-spider float-silk strands.  I sent Hans some awhile
> back.  It’s from a clothes-line that was clear tube over a spun
> multi-filament core.  I hope to be able to show all of this on the video,
> if I can still find a piece of the clothes-line in my stock-piles. The
> bobbin looks like it is hanging in space unless the light shines off of it
> just right.  My camera can catch it, don’t know if the video camera can.
>
> I’ll try to mix some humor in also, as I am want to do.  AAMOF, a fishing
> sequence with me catching a small trout on a #32 dropper would be sweet.  A
> #32 Copper John would be the ticket for a dropper.
>
> DOnO
>
> *From:* Pacres <pac...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 03, 2017 9:12 AM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>
> Can't wait to see the video, Don. I have a couple spools of the UNI-Caenis
> thread. Label says it is a 20 denier thread and is really fine. I've only
> ever tried tying with it a couple times and it is quite fragile. Cudos to
> you Don for tying at both extremes of the size scale.
>
> On 3 April 2017 at 09:51, Phxflytyer <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I am sure that you have a much lighter touch then me. I am too heavy with
>> my pressure and no matter how I try I still break the Guedebrod, even when
>> I take it off the spools and use a regular bobbin?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Phoenix, AZ.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:20 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
>> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I never really had any problem with the 10/0 breaking. I have not tried
>> the Vee?  thread.
>> > Tony
>> > 
>> > On Mon, 4/3/17, Alan Di Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>> > To: "VFB List" <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>> > Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 8:16 AM
>> >
>> > I also
>> > should have mentioned that the Veveeus?12/0 is still
>> > stronger then the Guedebrod 10/0.
>> >
>> >
>> > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>> >
>> >  "Any man who thinks he can be
>> > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
>> > him; better take a closer look at the American
>> > Indian."
>> > Henry
>> > Ford
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Alan Di
>> > Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > When I fished the San Juan
>> > River in New Mexico a couple of years back I brought my
>> > tying stuff and tied some 28 and 30’s.I had Bennecci 16/0 and I liked it
>> > better then the Guedebrod 10/0 which I thought broke too
>> > easily. Never did like that Guedebrod.
>> >
>> >
>> > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>> >
>> >  "Any man who thinks he can be
>> > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
>> > him; better take a closer look at the American
>> > Indian."
>> > Henry
>> > Ford
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at
>> > 8:00 AM, Niclas (Gmail) <n.runars...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > I
>> > started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller
>> > than #26. Picked out a few filaments from a piece of GSP
&g

Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller than #26. Picked out a
few filaments from a piece of GSP thread, waxed, twisted and put it on a
little spool. That was TRUE spiderweb... à la super strong. Using that on a
video it would look like the fly was tying itself while you were just
moving your hand around it.  ;o)

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:39 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I tyed mine with 10/0 Gudebrod. Too bad they don't make  any more. It was
> a finer thread than the 14/0 thread that I once had. This hook is real
> small, it will fit in the gape of the sx 32 you might find today.
> 
> On Mon, 4/3/17, Pete Gramp  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>  To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
>  Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 3:40 AM
>
>  I am
>  anxiously awaiting that video - I can'r say I've
>  ever tied anything smaller than 26, mostly because I never
>  felt that fish would take anything smaller, but I admit also
>  because my skill level just isn't there for it.  I can
>  hardly fathom tying a 32 of any type (tiemco, mustad, any
>  type), much less a naked/ blind eye!
>  I've used caenis thread on
>  26's, and that was "big" thread for those (in
>  my opinion), I can't imagine the special materials you
>  had to procure to tie that small of a fly.  Any insights
>  into the materials - were any "unusual" or special
>  for the task?
>  Well done
>  my friend!-Pete
>  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:06
>  AM, Hans Weilenmann 
>  wrote:
>  Technically difficult to film would be right. Well
>  done, m'friend. Looking forward to the video.
>  Cheers,HansNearsighted
>  Flytiers United
>
>  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:59
>  AM, DonO 
>  wrote:
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>
>  Well, I surprised myself. My old eyeballs are still up
>  to it.  3
>  -naked eye #32 RCs.
>
>
>
>
>  Making a tying video for You tube, worked on it
>  today.  Should post
>  next week. Technically difficult to film.
>
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Re: [VFB] Large attachments...

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... but you uploaded it in my folder. :D

Doesn't matter. I just made my folder as an example. I'll move your
picture.

The whole point with it was just *not spreading heavy mails into inboxes
you don't know anything about*. If the photos are uploaded into folders or
together in a big bunch doesn't really matter since you can link direcly to
the picture you want to share..

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> Nick,
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> uploaded it directly without making a folder.  I suggest we make a "Sowbug
> 2016" folder, then a new one next year.
>
> Everyone who has pics to send please do NOT send them to VFB. Instead,
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Re: [VFB] sent to the Fly Tying Forum

[Niclas (Gmail)]

*Posted on FlyTyingForum by my supportive friend Neville:*

*I am posting this on behalf of Niclas Runarsson, whose access to this
forum was removed unfairly. Niclas lives in Söderhamn, Sweden which is 9
hours different than my local time in Vancouver, BC. By the way, I am not a
bait fisherman but a long time fly fisherman.*

**

*First: Tup's Indespensable is a friend of mine who I told this to. He
was just trying to help me to get my access to the forum back and should
not be frowned upon for that.*

*From my side, this has never been complaining about anything. I just
politely asked(!) admin to remove it. The picture is hardly the pride of my
website, but since I saw that the account owner himself already had asked
for the same thing, I didn't think it would be a problem. I just expected
an Aha... we must have missed that back then.*

*I did read the FTF rules before I asked and they clearly state: You agree
not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you
or this bulletin board. - So the material was owned by me but posted by
someone else... the account owner had already asked for the same thing. Why
would I feel uncomfortable with at least asking for it to be removed
myself?*
*The only reason that my own request took me more than one message was that
the admin didn't seem to understand what I meant, so I just tried to
clarify what I thought I was failing to explain. If he simply had said NO
(or just ignored my message), everything would have ended right there. But
obviously I tried too hard to explain (maybe I'm a bad explainer) and I got
deactivated. Maybe he thought it was all about complaining. But the only
thing I was doing was trying to clarify what I thought I'd been unclear
about.*

*I never wished to complain or disrupt anything (which was also why I
contacted the admin by PM). I've been an FTF member since 2008 and have
never misbehaved on this forum. My only wish now is to get activated again
so I can continue to use the forum... with or without the photo still in
the database.*

*What I can't understand, is why my request was more offensive than that of
Mickalo who also asked for the picture to be removed as he did not post it.
Only one of us had their access removed from the list.*

*/Niclas Runarsson*

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 I had expected more from a forum like that. I'm in the leading team for
 the forum at Edgeflyfishing.com and there we consequently do a three-step:

 1: Warning point.
 2: Additional warning point + 2 week suspension.
 3: 2 year ban.

 ... and that's for what happens on the open forum.

 Here I didn't do anything on the forum and without even a *warning in
 words *he took away all my access.

 We have the same kind of forum on Edgeflyfishing and there's a block
 person as PM sender right inside the message panel. He could have put an
 end to the conversation with a click right there. But instead he took the
 longer road... log into the admin control panel, look me up in member list
 there... and finally put restrictions to everything. The only thing I can
 do today is logging in. I can't even open and view my own profile...

 [image: Inline image 1]

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 This is one of those times when arrogant and idiot fit into the same
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Re: [VFB] sent to the Fly Tying Forum

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I had expected more from a forum like that. I'm in the leading team for the
forum at Edgeflyfishing.com and there we consequently do a three-step:

1: Warning point.
2: Additional warning point + 2 week suspension.
3: 2 year ban.

... and that's for what happens on the open forum.

Here I didn't do anything on the forum and without even a *warning in words
*he took away all my access.

We have the same kind of forum on Edgeflyfishing and there's a block
person as PM sender right inside the message panel. He could have put an
end to the conversation with a click right there. But instead he took the
longer road... log into the admin control panel, look me up in member list
there... and finally put restrictions to everything. The only thing I can
do today is logging in. I can't even open and view my own profile...

[image: Inline image 1]

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Re: [VFB] Copyright and discussion forums...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

 normally has metadata attached to it which should include the
 original creation date and camera used.

 Neville (Nev) Gosling


 On Jul 27, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Doesn't really matter now. I got banned for thinking that I still owned
 the riights to my photo... :(


 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
 wrote:

 Hi Nick:

 I’m guessing that you are referring to the flytyingforum.com that also
 has a fly pattern database that patterns may be uploaded to?



 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver
 BC  Canada




 On Jul 27, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 So, guys - here's one for you...

 Background:
 I'm getting tired of people posting my flies and stating that they are
 their own. The more flies with different owners showing up in picture
 searchs makes the ownership of the material on my own website unclear.
 I know what copyright is about and until today I thought it was the same
 over there but on a certain discussion forum where you also can upload
 patterns to a pattern database I ran into a brick wall. The discussion with
 the administrator has been ridiculous But as an administrator I'd like to
 assume that he should have some knowledge about rules and laws... and since
 he's not bending one inch (and getting more and more rude), it's not that I
 start to wonder if I'm wrong myself.

 Someone else has used a photo (taken by myself) from my site and used it
 for uploading a pattern in the forum's pattern database. First he thought I
 meant that it was my pattern and he wanted to see a patent ID. I explained
 that the pattern was beside the point and that it was the picture that was
 the issue. I think I got that through. But he's still wants to see a patent
 ID to remove it or stop wasting his time because I'm bringing up shit that
 noone but I even care about.

 Question:
 Is copyright different in US. Has a US discussion forum more rights than
 a private person to publish copyrighted pictures?

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Re: [VFB] Copyright and discussion forums...

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The worst thing is really what he did... not what he didn't do.

IF I had had the contact information that any other person would have
used for an email about something like this, I would have used it. But I
didn't find it, so the only way was to log in and use a personal message.
But it doesn't change it from being an any other person issue...
During the 7 years I've been a member I have never said a bad word on that
forum. But tired of a discussion he took the forum away for something I
didn't even do as a member... just any other person with a website.  :(

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Rights to the fly was what he thought I meant from the start but then it
 didn't matter how many times I pointed out that it was the rights to the
 PICTURE... he just couldn't let go of his patent ID request.
 Now I have that photo with a waterstamp on my page and am about to do the
 same with the rest of the photos there. (This was just a part of the work
 to clean out the other ones.) If THAT photo had been the one uploaded I
 wouldn't have cared (and I told the admin that too)... and I even asked if
 replacing was possible myself.
 I also said that I still had the original photo, taken 2007, full
 resolution, totally unedited/unresized/uncropped (including a bit of my
 tying room wall) if he had any doubts. Did he care to ask me for it? No, he
 still demanded a patent number.

 Funny fact... if you can call it 'funny':
 When it was uploaded 2011, a forum topic started, with the picture and a
 link to the pattern database (automatically generated I guess). The user
 immediately posted and said that *he hadn't uploaded it*... someone must
 have uploaded it with his user name and *he asked admin to remove it*...
 but it wasn't removed.
 The even more funny(?) fact. As I linked to this forum topic (twice) in
 last night's discussion *the admin could see that other user saying it
 wasn't his and requesting to have it removed!!!* But still the only thing
 removed is user Runarsson's rights to use the forum.

 http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?showtopic=63177hl=%2Bemerger+%2Bbuzzer

 I never had any complaints against the forum. FTF wasn't the one
 uploading. I just asked for help. I wish I had started my discussion on
 open forum instead, so people could have seen him refuse to remove my pic,
 seen who was the polite part of the conversation and finally seen him put
 an end to the conversation (and all my other FTF conversations) with a
 simple *Your done budbye, Welcome to USA*

 ... or maybe he wouldn't have in front of all the others.


 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com
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 Consider water marking your photos with your website or company name and
 copyright year. I was always told that in the world of flies you can
 copyright a fly by name but not really patent one. All it would take is
 someone to change one material or change the quantity or size in a material
 used. Tie it in another sequence, color, etc and the patent is useless. But
 your picture is your picture and the laws are a little more straight
 forward in regards to pictures. Watermark them so that if someone does link
 to your server as they have done in the past or outright download the
 images and then upload them somewhere else that there is at least a visual
 clue to the reader what is really going on. You are due fair credit for
 creation of those flies and there should be some ethics on the part of the
 forum in question in giving and ensuring due credit is given. Now if
 someone ties and photographs say an old but publicly known fly then the
 credit to the pattern should go to the originator and the credit for the
 photo (and tyer) should go to that individual. Please note that if you post
 pictures to social media (including said forum) that generally in the fine
 print you can find some legalese that claims ownership of everything you
 post including pictures. Some media companies scour social networks for
 original artwork to use in magazines, websites, etc. So be careful what you
 post online because unless you own the server there is a good chance that
 you don't own what you post there. And if set to publicly available, if may
 even be interpreted as public domain. I can tell you without a doubt that
 Facebook, twitter, etc all claim ownership over what you upload whether you
 delete it or not (they don't really delete anything, just hide it). I think
 we may find some humor and plenty of fodder for people seeking public
 office, especially 20 - 30 years from now when many people don't take what
 they post online very seriously. This is still the early days of social
 media. I will say that Facebook does provide provisions on how to handle
 theft of copyrighted material including words and photos, but you must
 prove that you are the rightful owner. Nobody but you can file a claim.
 YouTube has the same mechanisms and probably a few others.

 I

Re: [VFB] sent to the Fly Tying Forum

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I'm grateful for the support. However I would like it edited and leave the
quote outside. He is not the person to burn on even more...

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Re: [VFB] sent to the Fly Tying Forum

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I have found user 'mickalo' on another forum, so I have now sent him a PM
there (since I can't on FTF anymore). Have asked him to say something in
the topic, not necessarily much different from what he have already said
there... just to show that he *still* doesn't want to take credit for
someone else's work (and at the same time, with the post give the topic a
little extra time in the New Content list).

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 I'm grateful for the support. However I would like it edited and leave the
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[VFB] Copyright and discussion forums...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

So, guys - here's one for you...

Background:
I'm getting tired of people posting my flies and stating that they are
their own. The more flies with different owners showing up in picture
searchs makes the ownership of the material on my own website unclear.
I know what copyright is about and until today I thought it was the same
over there but on a certain discussion forum where you also can upload
patterns to a pattern database I ran into a brick wall. The discussion with
the administrator has been ridiculous But as an administrator I'd like to
assume that he should have some knowledge about rules and laws... and since
he's not bending one inch (and getting more and more rude), it's not that I
start to wonder if I'm wrong myself.

Someone else has used a photo (taken by myself) from my site and used it
for uploading a pattern in the forum's pattern database. First he thought I
meant that it was my pattern and he wanted to see a patent ID. I explained
that the pattern was beside the point and that it was the picture that was
the issue. I think I got that through. But he's still wants to see a patent
ID to remove it or stop wasting his time because I'm bringing up shit that
noone but I even care about.

Question:
Is copyright different in US. Has a US discussion forum more rights than a
private person to publish copyrighted pictures?

/Nick

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Re: [VFB] Copyright and discussion forums...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Doesn't really matter now. I got banned for thinking that I still owned the
riights to my photo... :(


On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
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 Hi Nick:

 I’m guessing that you are referring to the flytyingforum.com that also
 has a fly pattern database that patterns may be uploaded to?



 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver
 BC  Canada




 On Jul 27, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, guys - here's one for you...

 Background:
 I'm getting tired of people posting my flies and stating that they are
 their own. The more flies with different owners showing up in picture
 searchs makes the ownership of the material on my own website unclear.
 I know what copyright is about and until today I thought it was the same
 over there but on a certain discussion forum where you also can upload
 patterns to a pattern database I ran into a brick wall. The discussion with
 the administrator has been ridiculous But as an administrator I'd like to
 assume that he should have some knowledge about rules and laws... and since
 he's not bending one inch (and getting more and more rude), it's not that I
 start to wonder if I'm wrong myself.

 Someone else has used a photo (taken by myself) from my site and used it
 for uploading a pattern in the forum's pattern database. First he thought I
 meant that it was my pattern and he wanted to see a patent ID. I explained
 that the pattern was beside the point and that it was the picture that was
 the issue. I think I got that through. But he's still wants to see a patent
 ID to remove it or stop wasting his time because I'm bringing up shit that
 noone but I even care about.

 Question:
 Is copyright different in US. Has a US discussion forum more rights than a
 private person to publish copyrighted pictures?

 /Nick


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Re: [VFB] Vfb Joke of the day

[Niclas (Gmail)]

You enjoy... we enjoy: *YAE*

/Swedish Redneck

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 6:35 PM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I used to to the JFTD on the VFB back when things on the list were slow.
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 It was fun.  Let me know yae or nae.

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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

[Niclas (Gmail)]

A good and user friendly way to share megabyte pictures is DropBox.
Uploading to a DropBox folder and then send the link to this folder in the
email makes it possible to share lots and lots using very little server
space.

/Nick

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 That would be great!!

 af

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 31, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  I didn't post the dinner pictures, we just got to Tucumcari, NH today
 the terminus of this trip, my phone is charging, when it's ready I'll post.
 
  Also Al, when we know what day we'll be near your neck of the woods I'll
 email, maybe we can stop for a hour break near Greenwood, IN.
 
  Peggy
 
  On 3/31/2015 9:51 AM, Allan Fish wrote:
  On 3/31/15 10:22 AM, Don Ordes wrote:
  Thanks for posting these.
  Did anyone get a group photo of the VFBers in attendance?Then we start
 the drive home through the midwest,
 
  Not that I am aware of.  The closest would be Peggy's pictures from the
  other day that she took at the dinner get-together the night before.
 
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[VFB] Fishermen family

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Together with Ted Kraimer and Jerry Coviello I got this mail earlier today:

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*Taking credit for your work too?*

*Niclas:*

*http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/stimulator/stimulator.htm
http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/stimulator/stimulator.htm*

*http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/stimulator_steps.htm
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/stimulator_steps.htm*

*Ted:*
*http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/egg/egg-flies.htm*
http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/egg/egg-flies.htm
*http://www.current-works.com/how-to-tie-fly/mcfly-foam-egg-pattern/*
http://www.current-works.com/how-to-tie-fly/mcfly-foam-egg-pattern/

*Jerry:*
*http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/henryville-special/henryville-special.htm*
http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/henryville-special/henryville-special.htm
*http://www.jerrysflyfishingtips.com/August_Fly_Month.htm*
http://www.jerrysflyfishingtips.com/August_Fly_Month.htm

*Regards,*
*/P*
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It wasn't hard to tell that he had gotten the origin of the Stimulator pics
right so I replied and verified his guess... and a few minutes later Jerry
did the same. I haven't seen anything from Ted yet (but it doesn't have to
mean more than that I wasn't a CC in his reply). But comparing the egg
SBS's I'm sure it's the same thing there (since his also includes both more
and larger pictures). They have already made the pictures for me... all I
need to do is the writing.

Is it so damn hard to ask... or at least include a link to the actual
originator?

That's how much fishermen family is worth... when you can't trust your
own brothers. :(

/Nick

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Re: [VFB] Fishermen family

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I did it too for a while but thought it was sad that I had to qut on
quality to remain the owner... kind of having to scratch up your car to
make people not wanting to steal it. So I stopped. I guess it's time to
start again, at least on the step-by-steps. It's too easy for people to sit
back and wait for others to do the work for them.

/Nick

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:40 PM, MartinWestbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl
wrote:

 Nick,

 That’s why I started to put my name/website in the pix.



 http://www.flylab.nl/?p=206



 Of course they could remove them I guess, but it’s better than nothing.

 Mart



 *Van:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] *Namens
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 *Verzonden:* dinsdag 31 maart 2015 15:55
 *Aan:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Onderwerp:* [VFB] Fishermen family



 Together with Ted Kraimer and Jerry Coviello I got this mail earlier today:



 ---

 *Taking credit for your work too?*



 *Niclas:*

 *http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/stimulator/stimulator.htm
 http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/stimulator/stimulator.htm*

 *http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/stimulator_steps.htm
 http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/stimulator_steps.htm*



 *Ted:*

 *http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/egg/egg-flies.htm*
 http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/egg/egg-flies.htm

 *http://www.current-works.com/how-to-tie-fly/mcfly-foam-egg-pattern/*
 http://www.current-works.com/how-to-tie-fly/mcfly-foam-egg-pattern/



 *Jerry:*


 *http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/henryville-special/henryville-special.htm*
 http://www.lavaguada.cl/moscasymontajes/henryville-special/henryville-special.htm

 *http://www.jerrysflyfishingtips.com/August_Fly_Month.htm*
 http://www.jerrysflyfishingtips.com/August_Fly_Month.htm



 *Regards,*

 */P*

 ---



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 pics right so I replied and verified his guess... and a few minutes later
 Jerry did the same. I haven't seen anything from Ted yet (but it doesn't
 have to mean more than that I wasn't a CC in his reply). But comparing the
 egg SBS's I'm sure it's the same thing there (since his also includes both
 more and larger pictures). They have already made the pictures for me...
 all I need to do is the writing.



 Is it so damn hard to ask... or at least include a link to the actual
 originator?



 That's how much fishermen family is worth... when you can't trust your
 own brothers. :(



 /Nick

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Re: [VFB] Prayers also needed.

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Prayers from Sweden on their way.


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 Done, Tony, for a speedy recovery!

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[VFB] Prayers needed...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

We got a phone call last week... Teresa's sister is getting worse in her
lung cancer. Booked tickets and today she left with the girls (I'm going
later). But this morning they called and said that it was really bad. That
was 14hrs ago and she's still in the car on the way to Coventry. Prayers
needed... that she gets there in time.

/Nick

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Re: [VFB] CORRECTION

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I don't know how to read that. If it was taken as anything but a joke, I
apologize for that. The real reason for that lock screen is really that
when I bought the tablet Emelie wanted to show all her friends the iPad
that daddy had bought. It was just a joke. I do have an iPad too, which
was given to me from work. But I hardly ever use it. Personally I don't
like iOS products one bit. They make you so limited as a user since they've
left no room for customizing. There's no your way to talk about... only
their way. I use it for streaming movies since the screen is better than
on the tablet... and it's a welcome complement so the girls have one each
to play on. But that's the only place it has here. I'd chose an Android any
day of the week.

/Nick


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wrote:

 Nick, we don't own a I anything at our house. And it is a simple reason,
 nothing to do with the product, they are really a marketing company. But,
 Jerry works with a couple of very talented guys who started at Apple, and
 were poorly paid and treated! One for 15 years..



 Peggy


 On 6/5/2014 1:52 AM, Niclas (Gmail) wrote:

 It's not without reason that I have a lock screen like this on my
 Samsung tablet:


 ​


 On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net
 mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 CORRECTION.  The word DonO used was speyed, not sorted.  I think
 I'll turn auto-correct off in my phone.
 Sorted doesn't come anywhere close to speyed, except it starts
 with an S.   Gr!!!

 af

 On 6/4/14, 6:40 PM, Allan Fish wrote:

 You're right on your assumption about Don, Nick.
 Although the actual veterinary term here is spayed, Don was
 making a pun with the rhyming word sorted. After all, Don
 really is a rather punny guy.
 af

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Niclas
 (Gmail)n.runars...@gmail.com
 mailto:n.runars...@gmail.com__  wrote:


 If Don says something that I don't understand, then it's
 probably something bad.



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Re: [VFB] CORRECTION

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Maybe that's why I don't like it... everything is done for you. I'm not a
dummy when it comes to these things, so I want room to make it better than
it was when it was taken out of the box. But you can't with that. It
doesn't get better... and it doesn't get worse... so it's just boooring.
That's what it is. It's like buying flies. Where's the fun in in that? LOL

/Nick


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 I thought it was funny, Nick.  I'm kind of a Mac Bigot because everything
 is done for you on the Mac.  I consider Macs as computers for dummies.
 Maybe you can't customize them, but on the other hand you don't have to
 customize them.  g

 Not knowing anyone who works/worked for Apple, I have no biases, but I can
 certainly see where Peggy is coming from.  On the other hand, I have a good
 friend who was down-sized from Microsnot, as he so lovingly calls it. I
 hear a lot of negative stuff about MS products from him.  He's really gone
 to the dark side - he's now a Unix fan.  G

 Nick, I took it your no iPad as a really cute jest.  It's like saying
 Or**.  [image: *:)) laughing]


 Allan Fish
 Greenwood, IN
 afi...@sbcglobal.net

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 *Sent:* Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:40 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] CORRECTION

 I don't know how to read that. If it was taken as anything but a joke, I
 apologize for that. The real reason for that lock screen is really that
 when I bought the tablet Emelie wanted to show all her friends the iPad
 that daddy had bought. It was just a joke. I do have an iPad too, which
 was given to me from work. But I hardly ever use it. Personally I don't
 like iOS products one bit. They make you so limited as a user since they've
 left no room for customizing. There's no your way to talk about... only
 their way. I use it for streaming movies since the screen is better than
 on the tablet... and it's a welcome complement so the girls have one each
 to play on. But that's the only place it has here. I'd chose an Android any
 day of the week.

 /Nick


 On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Nick, we don't own a I anything at our house. And it is a simple reason,
 nothing to do with the product, they are really a marketing company. But,
 Jerry works with a couple of very talented guys who started at Apple, and
 were poorly paid and treated! One for 15 years..



 Peggy


 On 6/5/2014 1:52 AM, Niclas (Gmail) wrote:

 It's not without reason that I have a lock screen like this on my
 Samsung tablet:


 ​


 On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net
 mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 CORRECTION.  The word DonO used was speyed, not sorted.  I think
 I'll turn auto-correct off in my phone.
 Sorted doesn't come anywhere close to speyed, except it starts
 with an S.   Gr!!!

 af

 On 6/4/14, 6:40 PM, Allan Fish wrote:

 You're right on your assumption about Don, Nick.
 Although the actual veterinary term here is spayed, Don was
 making a pun with the rhyming word sorted. After all, Don
 really is a rather punny guy.
 af

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Niclas
 (Gmail)n.runars...@gmail.com
 mailto:n.runars...@gmail.com__  wrote:


 If Don says something that I don't understand, then it's
 probably something bad.



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Re: [VFB] CORRECTION

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Especially since it changed because of Allan's iPhone... that isn't even
allowed to customize anything. It must be a cheap copy. LOL

/Nick


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

   I think it’s funny how the conversation changed from Nick needing to be
 speyed to i-junk.

 Is that Buggs I hear off in the distance?

 DonO

  *From:* Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:46 AM
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] CORRECTION

  Maybe that's why I don't like it... everything is done for you. I'm not
 a dummy when it comes to these things, so I want room to make it better
 than it was when it was taken out of the box. But you can't with that. It
 doesn't get better... and it doesn't get worse... so it's just boooring.
 That's what it is. It's like buying flies. Where's the fun in in that? LOL

 /Nick


 On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Fish Allan afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  I thought it was funny, Nick.  I'm kind of a Mac Bigot because
 everything is done for you on the Mac.  I consider Macs as computers for
 dummies.  Maybe you can't customize them, but on the other hand you don't
 have to customize them.  g

 Not knowing anyone who works/worked for Apple, I have no biases, but I
 can certainly see where Peggy is coming from.  On the other hand, I have a
 good friend who was down-sized from Microsnot, as he so lovingly calls
 it. I hear a lot of negative stuff about MS products from him.  He's really
 gone to the dark side - he's now a Unix fan.  G

 Nick, I took it your no iPad as a really cute jest.  It's like saying
 Or**.  [image: *:)) laughing]


 Allan Fish
 Greenwood, IN
 afi...@sbcglobal.net

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 *Sent:* Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:40 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] CORRECTION

  I don't know how to read that. If it was taken as anything but a joke,
 I apologize for that. The real reason for that lock screen is really that
 when I bought the tablet Emelie wanted to show all her friends the iPad
 that daddy had bought. It was just a joke. I do have an iPad too, which
 was given to me from work. But I hardly ever use it. Personally I don't
 like iOS products one bit. They make you so limited as a user since they've
 left no room for customizing. There's no your way to talk about... only
 their way. I use it for streaming movies since the screen is better than
 on the tablet... and it's a welcome complement so the girls have one each
 to play on. But that's the only place it has here. I'd chose an Android any
 day of the week.

 /Nick


 On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net
  wrote:

 Nick, we don't own a I anything at our house. And it is a simple reason,
 nothing to do with the product, they are really a marketing company. But,
 Jerry works with a couple of very talented guys who started at Apple, and
 were poorly paid and treated! One for 15 years..



 Peggy


 On 6/5/2014 1:52 AM, Niclas (Gmail) wrote:

 It's not without reason that I have a lock screen like this on my
 Samsung tablet:


 ​


 On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net
 mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 CORRECTION.  The word DonO used was speyed, not sorted.  I think
 I'll turn auto-correct off in my phone.
 Sorted doesn't come anywhere close to speyed, except it starts
 with an S.   Gr!!!

 af

 On 6/4/14, 6:40 PM, Allan Fish wrote:

 You're right on your assumption about Don, Nick.
 Although the actual veterinary term here is spayed, Don was
 making a pun with the rhyming word sorted. After all, Don
 really is a rather punny guy.
 af

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Niclas
 (Gmail)n.runars...@gmail.com
 mailto:n.runars...@gmail.com__  wrote:


 If Don says something that I don't understand, then it's
 probably something bad.



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Re: [VFB] Now it's time...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Teresa just told me what 'speyed' meant there... and I was right yet again.
If Don says something that I don't understand, then it's probably something
bad.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

   I always thought Nick needed to be speyed.

 DonO

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  Nice Film. There are a few two handers starting to show up here.
 Tony


   On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:31 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com
 wrote:


  I never thought I would take that step. 2-hand is not for me. I'm
 always going to be a 1-handed fisherman. Today I was just about to buy
 another rod, a Scott A4 #5. It went for $300 and I was JUST about to buy
 when I stumbled on a topic from another guy. If he had phrased it
 differently, I would probably just have bought the Scott without thinking
 twice. But Do you want to try 2-hand fishing made me look another time...
 even though I had seen that it was a 9-weight rod. $115 for the rod
 including three lines to it. That was too cheap to just ignore... so I kept
 it open in another window while I looked a little deeper into the BuySell
 board. Soon I found a Loop reel that matched it... for $200.
 I leaned back and sank into thinking. I complain and complain because it's
 so far to good waters and I'm stuck with the PT-waters here. But just
 around the corner, only 20 kilometers from here, I have Ljusne, which is a
 really good salmon/sea trout water, visited by people from all around
 Sweden...

 ... and in front of me I had the gear for it, to a price that was even
 better than reasonable. Instantly I felt that this was something long
 overdue. I never bought the #5 Scott. Coming is instead a #9 Broman Big
 River and a Loop reel to it. A new world is opening...

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[VFB] Now it's time...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I never thought I would take that step. 2-hand is not for me. I'm always
going to be a 1-handed fisherman. Today I was just about to buy another
rod, a Scott A4 #5. It went for $300 and I was JUST about to buy when I
stumbled on a topic from another guy. If he had phrased it differently, I
would probably just have bought the Scott without thinking twice. But Do
you want to try 2-hand fishing made me look another time... even though I
had seen that it was a 9-weight rod. $115 for the rod including three lines
to it. That was too cheap to just ignore... so I kept it open in another
window while I looked a little deeper into the BuySell board. Soon I found
a Loop reel that matched it... for $200.
I leaned back and sank into thinking. I complain and complain because it's
so far to good waters and I'm stuck with the PT-waters here. But just
around the corner, only 20 kilometers from here, I have Ljusne, which is a
really good salmon/sea trout water, visited by people from all around
Sweden...

... and in front of me I had the gear for it, to a price that was even
better than reasonable. Instantly I felt that this was something long
overdue. I never bought the #5 Scott. Coming is instead a #9 Broman Big
River and a Loop reel to it. A new world is opening...

/Nick

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Re: [VFB] Back in biz...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I haven't been anywhere special. The only reason for the break was that the
tying started to feel like an obligation. In the end I tied just because I
hadn't tied in a couple of days. That feeling when you get an idea or see
something and just NEED to put it on a hook was gone. So I decided to take
a break... instead of continue tying for the sake of tying with the risk
to kill something completely. It felt right. Months passed and I didn't
miss it at all. But everytime I was into the tying room (now Teresa's extra
storage room) and saw the vises standing there, I knew that I would be
coming back. I could feel that it wasn't gone... just a little bit worn out.

/Nick


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am getting old like Allan.  I retire this month.  So, tell me again
 where have you been and why have you been away?  Like my mother the only
 thing I know is that you have not been visiting me :)


 On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Nick?  NICK?  Nick Runarrssn I remember him!!

 Delllighted you're back with us.

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Thank you for your prayers guys. Maybe they did a difference. This morning
he was quite alert and didn't settle for his youghurt, but wanted to have
the second half of my sisters shrimp sandwich too. During the day he was
like I said earlier... nothing or a little better, but not worse. But a
couple of hours ago I got that international phone call from my sister that
I was afraid of...

He had felt pretty good during his last day. It was not like that horrible
night when I was with him. He just didn't wake up from that nap. Maybe it
was your prayers...

Thanks.

/Nick


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM, J Mck jmck1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Nick

 Our prayers are with you all.


 Jerry McKaughan
 P.O. Box 85
 Pottsville, AR 72858
 www.caddisflyfishers.org


   On Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:17 AM, Niclas (Gmail) 
 n.runars...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just been in England for two weeks, where the sister of my (English)
 fiancé has got a stage 4 lung cancer. She was going to get married before
 she got too weak and we were attending it. But this mail isn't about her...
 yet.
 Three days after coming home from England I was at work when I got a phone
 call... Your father is really really sick now. So I just packed my bags
 again and booked a ticket to Iceland, where I have my (Icelandic) father's
 side of the family. He's got a stage 4 prostate cancer and has now been
 placed at a hospice in Kopavogur. Lately his health has been like a roller
 coaster and he has gone in and out of hospital. Now he had gotten an
 infection and was also constantly losing blood.
 His cancer had now spread to the bones and the treatment didn't do
 anything anymore. But an alternate treatment was planned, though he had to
 be both stronger and more stabile than he was for the moment. So he hadn't
 been placed at that hospice for the same reason as the other patients
 there, to get as much life quality in their last days. It was just better
 for him to be there for now.
 I had been there for 5 days and my sister for 2 and we sat alone with him.
 The fever rised and everything got worse. The situation reached the level
 where the nurses got other faces, offered us a book with the title At The
 End to prepare us... and finally also offered us a priest to help us with
 support. And when people with extensive experience of dying patients are
 doing things like that... you more or less know what to expect and we
 called his fiancé and my other sister. So for a couple of hours we all then
 sat there looking at his breathing and wondering if there would come
 another breath after that... when he suddenly stopped moaning and started
 to breath normally again and finally fell asleep. The man surprised
 everyone, including staff... and when we came back the next day we couldn't
 believe our eyes when we entered the room and saw him in sitting in his
 chair laughing at the TV.
 I had to go back home to Sweden the 23:th. Christmas Eve at home is the
 price of having children. But daily reports from my family has said that
 after this horrible night he has slowly but steadily gotten better and
 better... one foot in front of the other... and optimism has found its way
 into us again. Maybe he would get a chance to get that treatment after all.
 Isolating his cancer to his bones could give him a considerable amount of
 time.
 But this morning I talked to my sister. Yesterday her husband (also a
 doctor) had spoken to my father's doctor, who said something none of us had
 expected after seen him climbing like this. We should hope for weeks
 rather than months. My sister didn't catch the reason why but obviously
 something still is very wrong, despite the looks of it.
 This got a little bit longer than planned. Making long stories short has
 never been my field. The only thing I wanted with it was to ask for
 prayers... that this probably rather short time that he has left will be as
 pain free as possible.

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[VFB] Prayers needed...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Just been in England for two weeks, where the sister of my (English) fiancé
has got a stage 4 lung cancer. She was going to get married before she got
too weak and we were attending it. But this mail isn't about her... yet.

Three days after coming home from England I was at work when I got a phone
call... Your father is really really sick now. So I just packed my bags
again and booked a ticket to Iceland, where I have my (Icelandic) father's
side of the family. He's got a stage 4 prostate cancer and has now been
placed at a hospice in Kopavogur. Lately his health has been like a roller
coaster and he has gone in and out of hospital. Now he had gotten an
infection and was also constantly losing blood.
His cancer had now spread to the bones and the treatment didn't do anything
anymore. But an alternate treatment was planned, though he had to be both
stronger and more stabile than he was for the moment. So he hadn't been
placed at that hospice for the same reason as the other patients there, to
get as much life quality in their last days. It was just better for him to
be there for now.
I had been there for 5 days and my sister for 2 and we sat alone with him.
The fever rised and everything got worse. The situation reached the level
where the nurses got other faces, offered us a book with the title At The
End to prepare us... and finally also offered us a priest to help us with
support. And when people with extensive experience of dying patients are
doing things like that... you more or less know what to expect and we
called his fiancé and my other sister. So for a couple of hours we all then
sat there looking at his breathing and wondering if there would come
another breath after that... when he suddenly stopped moaning and started
to breath normally again and finally fell asleep. The man surprised
everyone, including staff... and when we came back the next day we couldn't
believe our eyes when we entered the room and saw him in sitting in his
chair laughing at the TV.
I had to go back home to Sweden the 23:th. Christmas Eve at home is the
price of having children. But daily reports from my family has said that
after this horrible night he has slowly but steadily gotten better and
better... one foot in front of the other... and optimism has found its way
into us again. Maybe he would get a chance to get that treatment after all.
Isolating his cancer to his bones could give him a considerable amount of
time.
But this morning I talked to my sister. Yesterday her husband (also a
doctor) had spoken to my father's doctor, who said something none of us had
expected after seen him climbing like this. We should hope for weeks
rather than months. My sister didn't catch the reason why but obviously
something still is very wrong, despite the looks of it.
This got a little bit longer than planned. Making long stories short has
never been my field. The only thing I wanted with it was to ask for
prayers... that this probably rather short time that he has left will be as
pain free as possible.

/Nick

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Re: [VFB] Awful Situation.....(Scott Sickau)

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Scott has been here for quite a while. My VFB mail on this address goes back
to Feb-05... and so does Scott.
He's even one of us infamous IOFF Charter Members. He's not a name without a
man.

/Nick

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM, J Balmer jbal...@betadigm.com wrote:

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 Do any of you know Scott? If so, can you verify his whereabouts? Otherwise,
 this looks like a scam that is prevalent right now, especially since he's
 asking for british pounds..

 J

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 *To:* undisclosed recipients:
 *Subject:* [VFB] Awful Situation.(Scott Sickau)

 Hello,

 I'm sorry for this odd request because it might get to you too urgent but
 it's because of the situation of things right now.

 I’m with family on vacation in London, United Kingdom, we got mugged last
 night in an alley by a gang of thugs on our way back from shopping, one of
 them had a knife poking my neck for almost two minutes and everything we had
 on us including my cell phone, credit cards were all stolen,quite honestly
 it was beyond a dreadful experience for us but looking on the bright side we
 weren't seriously hurt or injured and we are still alive so that is whats
 important. I've reported to the cops here and canceled all our cards,it
 appeared I had acted quickly enough or they almost would have succeeded in
 cleaning out my bank account. I'm really having some difficulties clearing
 our hotel bills and also need to pick up a voucher ticket at the counter for
 us to catch a flight back home as soon as possible.

 All we need right now is £1,650pounds, but anything you can spare pending
 when we get things straighten out will be appreciated and I promise to
 refund as soon as we arrive home safely.

 Write me back and let me know how soon you can get it to us asap.

 Scott.

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Re: [VFB] Whiting hackle rumour

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Charlie Craven thinks about our best. He has marked his saddles: These
saddles are NOT sold for hair extensions, only real fly tyers!

How well he can control this in a web-shop is hard to tell, but at least the
thought is there... :o)

/Nick




On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:22 PM, J Balmer jbal...@betadigm.com wrote:

  Can’t confirm that, but I’ve talked to several fly shops about shortages
 due the hair thang.

 ** **

 J

 ** **

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 *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:47 AM
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 *Subject:* [VFB] Whiting hackle rumour

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 Hi all, 

 Can anyone confirm or not the rumour that Dr. Tom Whiting is no longer
 supplying flytyers bit selling to the fashion people.

 Thanks

 Ashley

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Re: Re: [VFB] Super article!!!

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Like said: As long as it didn't pass me by, I wouldn't forget it.
I saw it... and I didn't forget. So here it is.

'HOW TO ACT RIGHT'

Looking and behaving right on the water matters. Act or look
the wrong way, and fellow anglers will spot you as a...

... and the rest on http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/like-a-pro-2/


/Nick

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:14 AM, n.runars...@gmail.com wrote:

 As long as I don't forget about the article, I will post it. I won't forget
 that part. It's a must share just as much as it's a must read and I
 hadn't even finished reading it before my head started to list recievers of
 the link... VFB and Edgeforum being the first ones... 6000 people in a
 flash. LOL

 /Nick


 Den, skrevJeff Frye bighawk...@yahoo.com:
   That's good stuff. I guess that my Jayhawk t-shirt, sweat-stained
 Titleist cap, nylon shorts and Crocs are not going to pass muster. Nick, if
 you can remember, will you post part 2 when it comes out?
 
 
 
  From: Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 7:01:10 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Super article!!!
 
 
 
  Martin Joergensen... the guy who knows what it's about. This is a 'must
 read' to every fly-fisherman.
 
 
 
 
 
  'HOW TO LOOK GOOD'
 
  Appearance and behavior are two very important aspects of fly fishing.
  Act or look the wrong way, and fellow anglers will immediately...
 
 
 
  ... and the rest on http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/like-a-pro-1/
 
 
 
 
 
  Valuable information. I thought it was my jokes... but after reading this
 I have understood that it's ME they laugh at.
 
 
 
 
 
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[VFB] Super article!!!

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Martin Joergensen... the guy who knows what it's about. This is a 'must
read' to every fly-fisherman.

*'HOW TO LOOK GOOD'*

*Appearance and behavior are two very important aspects of fly fishing.
Act or look the wrong way, and fellow anglers will immediately...*

... and the rest on http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/like-a-pro-1/

Valuable information. I thought it was my jokes... but after reading this
I have understood that it's ME they laugh at.

/Nick

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Re: [VFB] Sowbug Alumni Swap...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Thanks,

There's one picture missing on the page though. So when yo've
boxed the shadows and taken it, please send it and I'll complete it.

/Nick

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:36 AM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote:

  Thanks Nic.  Great job. You make my piddlin Meister job appear half way
 decent.  LOL

 JIMMY D

 rom: Niclas Runarsson



 Sent: Feb 19, 2011 4:33 PM
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [VFB] Sowbug Alumni Swap...

  Result, for the ones who might be curious:
 http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/sowbugswap2011.htm

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Re: [VFB] Fw: Nice birds

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Chicks trying to look chique. But, like Tony said, just a waste of time and
tying material.

/Nick

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

   What a waste of hackle.
 Tony

 --- On *Thu, 2/17/11, glw...@gundluth.org glw...@gundluth.org* wrote:


 From: glw...@gundluth.org glw...@gundluth.org
 Subject: [VFB] Fw: Nice birds
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 7:43 AM




 - Forwarded by Gary L Webb/IS/LAX/GUNDLUTH on 02/17/2011 07:43 AM -







 Remember you're a fly tyer.  Maintain your focus. Look at the feathers.

 http://www.finefeatherheads.com/

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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D... Another try

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I have tried Teresa's address too with the same result. That's the same mail
server. Just now I tried my WORK address, with a different mail server...
and the same again.

Not address problem, not provider problem... it's a Swedish suckers thing.

But it's not an actual 'problem' anymore. I can get through to him with my
Gmail address and 'AT ALL' is enough to me. I'm not picky...

/Nick

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Rene Zillmann
rene.zillm...@t-online.dewrote:

 Hi Jimmy, Nick,
 It's not the email addy, the prob is that Jimmy's provider (ISP,
 Earthlink) is blocking Nick's addy.
 In the error message is mentioned, that you have to go to

 earthlink.net/block


 where you can get more infos and hopefully can unblock. I assume, only
 Jimmy can do this.

 Rene

 On 02/12/2011 10:26 PM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote:
  NIC, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT - HERE AGAIN IS MY EMAIL ADDRESS;
 
  ray...@earthlink.net
 
  AND I DIDN'T LAUGH AT YOU, MUST BE SOMEONE ELSE.
 
  jimmy d
  -Original Message-
 
  From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
  Sent: Feb 12, 2011 10:37 AM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D... Another try
 
  I tried to reply(!) again, to ensure I hadn't clicked the wrong corner
 of
  the reply button. Is this enough to show that I can't get through (note
 the
  address)... and think a laugh in my face is a poor substitute for an
 answer
  to the question I actually had?
 
  --
  A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
  recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
 
   ray...@earthlink.net
 SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL
  FROM:niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com SIZE=3761:
 host mx2.earthlink.net [209.86.93.227]: 550 IP 81.94.71.71 is
 blocked by
  EarthLink. Go to earthlink.net/block for details.
  ---
 
  /Nick
 
 
 
 
  -Ursprungligt meddelande-
  Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För
  Niclas Runarsson
  Skickat: den 12 februari 2011 16:20
  Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Ämne: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D
 
 
  I know what I left out. I just figured what I had was enough to describe
  which
  address I meant (and obviously it was).
  The good thing with the reply button is that you always get the address
  right.
  So I'm more than sure that my mails to Mr Mail Delivery System haven't
 had
  anything left out in the address field.
 
  /Nick
 
 
 
  -Ursprungligt meddelande-
  Från: ray...@earthlink.net [mailto:ray...@earthlink.net]
  Skickat: den 12 februari 2011 15:48
  Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; Niclas Runarsson
  Ämne: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D
  Prioritet: Hög
 
 
  Nuck,  my email address is ray...@earthlink.net  YOU'VE BEEN LEAVING
 the
  .net off.  LOL
 
  JIMMY
 
  -Original Message-
 
  From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
  Sent: Feb 12, 2011 8:34 AM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Jimmy D
 
  How do I get through to him offlist? His rayado@earthlink address
 never
  seems to work.
 
  Does he have another one?
 
  /Nick
 
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[VFB] So, Donny...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

... how's your planning going? Is there a rope dub sequel coming any day
soon?
Just watched the first one again. I have watched it so many times now that
Emelie's English, that turned into Swenglish the more Swedish she heard,
has taken a step further into some form of broad Swyomglish.

Popcorn is bought, beer is on ice. Only one thing missing... and it ain't Al
Pacino. LOL

/Nick

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Re: [VFB] Gudebrod

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Didn't know that. But the situation was like I said in the beginning. I was
member of their pro staff (together with Tony. They terminated their tying
program (together with the pro staff) and Chris Helm bought a big part of
what was left from their threads. I only got half of my yearly pro staff
share, but I had to turn to Chris to buy the colors I didn't get. Fly-tying
stuff disappeared from their page, but the rest, rod building products
included, remained unchanged. I didn't know something had happened since
then.

/Nick

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote:

  Hi Nick:

 I beg to differ. They ran into serious financial difficulties and layed off
 the entire staff. Production was ended for a period of time while the owners
 sought financial help. I believe that they sold off the medical and dental
 floss side of the business and the electronics division assets only.



 They are now back concentrating on what they do best – Fishing threads etc.



 See:



 http://carwild.net/gudebrod/







 Neville (Nev) Gosling


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 Gudebrod was never out from business. They only terminated their *
 fly-tying* program, but they never quit supplying their rod wrapping
 thread.



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Re: [VFB] I feel like an idiot..... So what else is new LOL...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Me neither... but I'm an idiot anyway. People don't seem to expect very
much from the idiot, so I think it's quite relaxing to be one. LOL

/Nick

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 You're not an idiot.  I haven't received the list either. So, kindly
 repost. Joyce


 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Chuck Alexander 
 chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote:

  Folks: My half timers kicking in again, but could somebody please repost
 that list of tying items that Kevin  Slater needs the most??? I seem to have
 lost it, although my server has been having problem, so it may not be ALL
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Re: [VFB] Re: Off-topic Kicking somebody out !!!!1

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Nothing left to say from my side either...

/Nick

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I give up.

 JIMMY D


 Niclas (Gmail) wrote:

 Now you know me better. I belong to the group of people who react badly
 if they get barked at in front of everyone... especially if it's uncalled
 for.

 Maybe it's just the way we moderate that differ. I do it politely, offlist
 and see no need for patronizing... and have never(!) gotten a bad reaction,
 even though we have 4000+ members and the list of people I've corrected is
 way longer than yours.

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Re: [VFB] prayers for Tony

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Prayers for a speedy recovery also from the Swedish Redneck family.

/Nick

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:23 PM, J McK woodenleg...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Praying for a speedy and good recovery.

 Jerry McKaughan,President
 Caddis Fly Fishing Club
 P. O. Box 9104
 Russellville, AR 72811
 www.caddisflyfishers.org




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 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:45:02 -0700
 From: kc5...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: Re: [VFB] FYI
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

   He's got my prayers for a speedy and complete recovery.

 Salty Dan

 If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving!

 --- On *Tue, 9/14/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net* wrote:


 From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: [VFB] FYI
 To: Virtual Flybox vfb-mail@googlegroups.com,
 flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 8:43 PM

 For your info.

 Tony Spezio had major surgery on his lower esophagus yesterday, in Little
 Rock.

 Tony is doing well and was due to be given a little solid food this
 evening.  He will be in the hospital till at least Thursday.

 Prayers for a speedy recovery are appreciated.

 a.


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Re: [VFB] test

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I know. Just joking back at you.

/Nick

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net
 wrote:

  I wasn't trying to be smart, Chuck


  - Original Message -
 *From:* Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
   *Sent:* Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:07 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] test

 Well, if I don't get it back so my home inbox can verify it, I can
 still see it
 on the GoogleGroups page and on my web mail account.

 Better not try to be smart with me Chuck. The 'LOL' will be mine... ;o)

 /Jester

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 If we don't reply, how do you know if it got through?? LOL, Chuck


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Re: [VFB] Intro

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Dito. No cabin, very(!) seldom grumpy.. and still in my 30's.

Today I'm grumpy though. Got a(nother) nasty phonecall from my supervisor
this morning, that was the drop making the water flow over the edges. But
I'll be happy again after lunch... when I have gone over her head and
told her boss about how I've been treated the last week. I can already say
that her behaviour will have to change quite a bit if she wants to park her
butt (and her broom) in that office tomorrow.

It's a word-against-word situation, but her boss and I have been friends
since the days his drum sticks were setting the tempo of my guitar
solos. What I have to say won't flow out from his other ear... he knows
me really(!) well and won't for a split of a second even consider the fact
that my summary might be exaggerated. She has never been that popular among
the people in my seat, but today words will be taken for EXACTLY what they
mean, even though they will come from a person in a much lower chair.

I feel pretty (to say the least) certain that this will put a stop to her
taking advantage of the fact that unemployed can be miserable with life in
general, giving them a tendency to spice up any complaints they might be
having. But I bet she didn't see the trustworthy stage  beer pal
coming... LOL

/Nick

/Nick


On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:28 AM, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote:

  I may be grumpy  old, but I’m old  grumpy. Plus, I don’t even HAVE a
 cabin…



 *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Don Ordes
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:36 AM

 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Intro



 Hi Wayne,

 Yeah, you picked a heck of a day to join up.  LOL

 Buggs, Dr. Demento, and Veronica say 'hi and welcome', also.

 DonO

  - Original Message -

 *From:* Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com

 *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2010 6:40 AM

 *Subject:* [VFB] Intro



 Hi All;



 Just joined yesterday, there's quite a few people I know already here.



 I've been Flyfishing  Tying for about 4 years now, mostly for warmwater
 species but getting into trout.



 Enjoyed the conversations so far, gotta laugh it almost seems like a grumpy
 old men's group from posting yesterday afternoon.  It looks like you guys
 have cabin fever worse than me!



 Wayne Blake-Hedges, Port Tobacco MD



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Re: [VFB] Peak Vise

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I see nothing wrong with your comment about the Peak... never said I did
either.


On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote:

  It seems that John Ridderbos isn't the only one who was grumpy today. I
 was just making a simple (I thought) comment that the Peak vise was
 underrated. I am sorry I even bothered now.

 'nuff said


 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver,
 B.C. Canada


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 *Sent:* April 12, 2010 2:41 PM

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 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Peak Vise

  I wasn't reading into your Peak comments *at all*. I was only wondering
 what you meant with 'equivalent'... the word... to reach a position where I
 could actually START to see what you were saying in your comment. Regarding
 this subject, I saw two possible definitions. 'Similar functioning' was one
 of them... and that was all my question was about.

 My link to Dyna-King (or even Dyna-King all together) had nothing to do
 with why I asked the question. I mention Dyna-King simply because I
 know more about them than I know about Renzetti. If Dyna-King hadn't been
 one of the vises in the basket, I would have picked the one I knew most
 about from the ones that were there.

 But now, with 'similar functioning' from you, my initial
 question is answered. So to fill you in on your own wondering...

 I don't need painting reminders *until* I've actually started pushing...
 which I don't think *queries* about *what someone is saying* qualify
 as. The day I find that the reminder is not uncalled for and when it comes
 from a moderator is the day my reaction will be different.

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Re: [VFB] Tiny flies unrevealed...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Together with flies tied on them, I also have them beside a millimeter ruler
(1 inch=25.4 millimeters - 1 millimeter = 0.03937).
http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/32s.htm

TMC518 #32 is 3.5 millimeters (0.138). Straight part of hook shank, fly
part, is about 2 mm (0.079)... which is also the total length of a Mustad
277... that gives a fly part of about 1 mm (0.039).

/Nick



On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

  I put a couple'a Mustad/Tiemco #32 comparison photos on my website:
 http://www.fantasyflies.com/32_flies.php

 DonO

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 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Tiny flies unrevealed...

 Great Job Nick.  Mine is a #32 TMC

 BobH

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 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:08:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [VFB] Tiny flies unrevealed...

 Here's a chance to see what once couldn't be seen...

 '*VFB Tiny Fly Swap 2010*' at:
 http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/tinyfly2010.htm

 Some info is missing... a few fly names and hook sizes. If the tiers
 want this additional info to be there, just shout and I'll fix it.

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Re: [VFB] Tiny flies unrevealed...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Is that the name of the fly too?

/Nick

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:27 AM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote:

  Great Job Nick.  Mine is a #32 TMC

 BobH


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 '*VFB Tiny Fly Swap 2010*' at:
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Re: SV: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - Fly Fishing Friends

[Niclas (Gmail)]

You should have booked the penthouse at the Baits Motel...
... that sure is a spot for crazy celebrities. LOL

/Nick

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Nick,
  Next time I will get a box to stand on. LOL
  Shorty Tony

 --- On *Wed, 2/3/10, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com*wrote:


 From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
 Subject: SV: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - Fly Fishing Friends

 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 11:57 AM


  *RIGHT ON... PC to PC is good. Phone to phone is better. But face to face
 is the best!!*
 **
 */Nick*



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 *Ämne:* [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - Fly Fishing Friends



 I wrote this one for the book, but maybe it needs a little explaining.

 Good fly fishing friends should meet face to face and rod to rod.

 What I've written below and in the attachment, explains the quote
 We have fly fishing friends we can see and visit. Then we have those
 friends hat we've met and grown to call friend, on fly fishing e-mail
 lists.
 Some of my fly fishing list friends are as close to me as other friends
 I've had
 for years, although I haven't met most of them in person.

 I'm sure you know what I mean.. . . Allan Fish, Tony Spezio, Don Ordes,
 LarryJohnson, Doyle Sowersby, Iain Short, Jeff Frye, Deb Duran, Chuck
 Alexander, Bruce Whittle, Dean Larson, Joe Fusco, Joyce Westfall, Keith
 Passant, ReneZillmann, Nick Runarsson, Rick Zieger, Chris Cook, Ian
 Mitchell,
 and on and on . .

 If I left you out, I'm truly sorry, for I count all of you on the fly
 fishing lists to which I belong as friends. Those above were the ones that
 came to mind mosteadily

 My wife Jody will second that. She has a warm place in her heart for the
 friends she made on the VFB, FFW, and HCFF lists who participated in
 the Courage Swap, which Rick Zieger suggested - Jody calls the 50 fly tyers
 who participated in the swap her RAINBOW ANGELS. Believe me, they
 made a difference in Jody's bout with breast cancer. BTW, she's been cancer
 free now for 6 years. To see the Courage swap flies, cilck on the
 attachment..

 Have a Goodun !

 JIMMY D

   º *
 JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits
 Fishing  Hunting Club, Member, TOWA Past VP Guadalupe
 River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
 Texas Fish  Game Magazine, VFB  FFW Moderator, Scout
 Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman. tripod.com/ 
 index.htmlhttp://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html
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Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

If Teresa had a fur coat in that color I would have dumped it without asking
her... dark blood red. Are you sure we mean the same patch. There were many
patches of different furs in that bag. I'm sending you a picture offlist
with the fly (to not spoil for swappers), to make sure we mean the same one.


/Nick

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Nick,
 That is a patch of Russian Seal from Dot's fur  coat that I hated. She had
 that coat before I even knew her. Finally one day she said to dump it. I
 cut it up and gave a lot of it away. Some of the old timers before this list
 have chunks of it when I gave away bags of fur to whoever wanted it.
 Glad to see it being used.

 Tony

 --- On *Tue, 12/15/09, Niclas Runarsson 
 niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com*wrote:


 From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:49 PM


  And not to forget the BONUS that came with this DVD:

 For the Fanatic Swap I'm currently tying a fly with a wing of something
 that Tony gave me in a (quite
 full) Bits  Pieces bag, when I stayed at his house. I had no idea what it
 was. I sat in front of the TV
 and saw him fiddling with a black hair patch, saying I believe this is
 Russian Sable... long dense
 underfur and very few guard hairs... and then saw the bunch of hairs after
 he had cut it... I felt that
 chill again. THAT'S THE 'JOHN DOE' PATCH THAT'S LYING BY MY VISE!!!

 So, thank's DonO. The DVD made my day... twice!!

 /Nick



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 *Till:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Ämne:* Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...

 Nick: Thanks a  lot. I'll order some. The price is right as well, Chuck


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Niclas Runarssonhttp://mc/compose?to=niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:56 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...

 A quick search in the 'IMDB' (not the Internet Movie Data Base... but in
 the Infamous Material Data Base) shows that it is a dubbing from Wapsi
 called 'Natural Nymph Blend' (80% squirrel - 20% rabbit). It was bought in a
 sport shop in Gävle in Sweden. I can't find the dubbing in Wapsi's product
 catalogue though. But I found it here:
 http://shopflyfishingspecialties.com/wapsi-squirrel-dubbing-pr-16669.html

 /Nick

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 *Från:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *För
 *chuckalexan...@hughes.net
 *Skickat:* den 15 december 2009 23:22
 *Till:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 *Ämne:* Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...

 Nick: That is an awesome looking fly. It looks JUST LIKE a certain insect
 that I'm trying to place but can't right now. A hellmagranite??? Or a
 certain type stonefly?? I can't find the book I found it in right now, but
 it looks IDENTICAL to that particular insect. Where do you get that squirrel
 dubbing??? Can you make it yourself?? Thanks, Chuck
  Chuck



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 *From:* Niclas Runarssonhttp://mc/compose?to=niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:53 AM
 *Subject:* [VFB] Rope-Dub result...

 I got the DVD yesterday. It was a big Aha!!! I have had the technique
 explained to me in text
 format once, but it seems that I had misunderstood some. That's why I have
 only used it with a
 limited number of materials. But now the pieces fell into place... and I 
 understood
 what he had
 meant with the words 'easy' and 'simple'. and 'using any form of'.

 I have a squirrel dubbing that has seemed like it was made for the purpose
 of giving me headache.
 Short, stiff and sticky... and the noodles have been breaking into
 fragments and fallen of the thread.
 If someone, yesterday, had told me that it was possible to make a rock
 hard and segmented body
 out of that one, I would have answered: Of course... laminate sand and you
 can make a rock hard
 and segmented body out of that too.

 Watched the DVD around 3 o'clock this morning (didn't yawn once). Today I
 dug
 out that squirrel, just to give it a try (for the sake of it). First try
 attached...

 *GO DON! WHEN'S THE NEXT ONE COMING*

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Re: [VFB]Strange and Unusual hooks discussion

[Niclas (Gmail)]

It is bronzed (sloppy lighting), but it's not a Mustad 79666.
It's a Sealey, model 1768.B (which I haven't found anywhere either).

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  Nick,


 Third hook is something I won on an auction, 'Sealey 1768.B'. Haven't got a

 clue what the purpose of the design is. Up-side-up caddis maybe. (Feel

 free to take it as a question.) Well, it looked cool... so naturally I

 needed to have it. LOL

 That looks like the Mustad 79666 (no longer available) if it's bronzed.
 Those are getting to be collectors items.  If it's stainless steel (which
 this one looks like it might be), it's the Mustad 79666S, which is still
 available.

 It's a Keel hook. If you put a little weight on the angled portion of the
 hook and the hook point faces up.

 I've got some of the 79666 hooks - you can only find them in spare-hook
 bins in the stores.  Mustad apparently didn't sell enough of them to make
 them worthwhile.

 Dick Pobst wrote a book about them in 1974 - they're nearly weedless since
 he point of the hook rides up:
 *Fish the Impossible Places: The Story of the Keel Fly* by Dick
 Pobst

 Wow!  I just looked it up on Amazon.  Gee.  I could get wealthy - they only
 show one used copy for $73.50.

 I'll sell my copy for $500to my estate!  G


 a.

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[VFB] Re: testend

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I'm sure Buggs is the one who has inactivated or removed it. Don't be hard
on him. He can't help that his twisted mind has made him starting to worship
himself like the one and true. He'd never accept the fact that someone elses
humour is better than his... or someone elses anything at all is better
than his own anything at all. To him it was no need for the folder.

It's who he is. Some people just can't be reached LOL

/Jester

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:


 I don't have that folder.  I do have one called weird European humor less
 funny than mine.  Yours are not even getting that far, tho.

 DonO

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 Have you checked the category 'funnier jokes than me' in your spam filter?

 I guess you have tons of mine in there...

 /Jester


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 Don't know, Rene ... I'm not seeing some of Nick's mail, either.  See it as
 attached when others reply, but not the original.

 Who else's am I not getting?  How would I know?

 DonO


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 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:45 PM
 Subject: [VFB] Re: testend


 
  Hi Don,
  seems to work now, would like to know why some mails do not show up...
  Rene
 
  Don Ordes wrote:
  And now what?  That.  Who's on first.
 
  Buggs
 
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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:28 AM
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  Ok, I can post from the googlegroups page, but not using my mail
  account.
  And now?
 
  Rene wrote:
 
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[VFB] Re: Record Grayling

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I'd say it's my state of mind affecting everything around me.
With a fish like that in your hands, there can be no darkness. LOL

/Nick

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Bill wsparr...@cox.net wrote:


 Very bright flash i would guesslol


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 Subject: [VFB] Record Grayling


 
 
  Nick - If you were night fishing , why is the photo taken in daylight!
 
  You are a cheeter but very good with Photshop!
 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
  Greater Vancouver,
  B.C. Canada
 
  Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the
  impossible.
 
  
 


 


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[VFB] Re: Record Grayling...

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Remember who you're talking to...

To me, EVERY DAY is 'fools' day.

/Jester

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Bill.better point

 NICK.it's Holloween, NOT Aprils fools day, lmao.

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 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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 Subject: [VFB] Re: Record Grayling...


 Night fishing a few days ago and caught one heck of a grayling.

 Released it quickly... so I can catch it again tonight. LOL


 WOW!  Pretty fish!

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[VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?

[Niclas (Gmail)]

Not sure if I got you right there, but if you mean having the thread tied in
during the weaving process, this is hard... since one hand will be moving
back and forth under the hook and the bobbin will be hanging in the way.
Holding both strands in one hand and wrapping with the other when securing
it, is on the other hand nothing different from what I mean... once the
thread has been tied in again.

/Nick

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:14 PM, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote:

  I liked both, the parallel weave in particular. One way to solve the end
 of weave process is to have the thread tied in where you end ahead of time,
 hold both strands of woven material in one hand  wrap thread w/ the other.
 As to the touch dubbing, I'll try it on smaller hooks. Not sure why, but
 I've gotten away from waxing thread when dubbing. This would save some time.

 J

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   I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and
 Touchdubbing. It's online but has not been linked to from the main site
 yet. I thought I would fish some on the list first (and with 'fish', I
 don't mean just from you, Allan).

 Anyone having any comments on them?

 http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm
 http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/touchdubbing_steps.htm

 /Nick
 


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[VFB] Re: Fw: phxflytyer, I 'cracked the code' and made $94,532.44 in 24 hours.

[Niclas (Gmail)]

I got 433 mails in my Gmail spam folder this minute... about half of
them has the same characters as my own keyboard. Lots of languages there.
;o)

/Nick

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Chris Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I get hundreds of spam e-mails a day, most of them go to the Spam folder as
 the Gmail filter is very good. Just delete those mails.




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 *Byard do you have filters for this?*
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 *I know this is very recent becuse I change my Sig line often. So someone
 has gotten me on a list that they sell to advertisers. It takes days to get
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 clicked on the unsubscribe on the bottom of the SPAM's and more often than
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