Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2014-05-08 Thread Baz
hi, you wrote thatNor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of it,.What it 
means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich bobbin(expensive) for rewind 
purposes. I used and have and had CF, Master bobbin of TMC, regular one 
and Griffins etc and resold them all and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3 
tube head. I think if you do not use them, you don't fill the right one. I 
saw rite bobbin too, but did not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/

On Friday, May 17, 2013 12:25:21 PM UTC-7, Conranch wrote:

 Alan, 

 Try it, you will like it far better than any auto bobbin. 
 I tried to tie with the Erich bobbin and found it not good for my usage. 
 I pd $50 for a Nor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of it, sold it 
 for $25. He ties on a Nor vise. 
 I have found the best for me in the rite bobbin. 

 Denny 


 On 5/17/2013 12:14 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote: 
  Denny: 
  
  I sell the Rite bobbin at Bass Pro but have not tied with one. 
  
  I used to have a Norvise with the automatic bobbins but never was able 
 to adjust it properly. 
  
  The one I was asking about is supposed to be easier to use. 
  
  I saw one advertised in one of the fly fishing mags but can't remember 
 the correct name or how to spell it. 
  
  
  Sent from my iPad 
  
  Thank You, 
  Alan Di Somma 
  Phoenix, AZ. 
  
  Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. 
  
  
  
  On May 17, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Conranch conr...@wildblue.netjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  Alan, 
  The bobbin I have switched to several years ago is the Rite Bobbin, 
 and may not be the one you are looking for but. 
  I enjoy placing a regular sized spool on it and not having to cobble 
 fill from an odd sized one. the two big things I enjoy are the ceramic tip 
  (I sometimes get a bit heavy handed) and it is easily adjusted for 
 tension. Really a big plus to me. 
  If interested, please contact me off list. 
  
  Denny 
  
  On 5/17/2013 11:19 AM, Alan Di Somma wrote: 
  Folks.I have just been looking thru 
 eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly Shop- and any other places looking for 
 a specific bobbin. 
  
  The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a 
 very expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
 anything about it? 
  
  
  BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 
 70 denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts 
 more tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies 
 with it I will give a report. 
  
  
  Sent from my iPad 
  
  Thank You, 
  Alan Di Somma 
  Phoenix, AZ. 
  
  Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. 
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2014-05-08 Thread Allan Fish

On 5/8/14, 3:16 PM, Baz wrote:
hi, you wrote thatNor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of 
it,.What it means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich 
bobbin(expensive) for rewind purposes. I used and have and had CF, 
Master bobbin of TMC, regular one and Griffins etc and resold them all 
and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3 tube head. I think if you do not 
use them, you don't fill the right one. I saw rite bobbin too, but did 
not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/



Baz,

Unlike Denny, I DO like the Norvise bobbin.  The ONLY trick to it is 
remembering to stop the end of the bobbin before you cut the thread 
off the fly.  Otherwise you'll spend all day re-threading the bobbin.


I picked up some rite bobbins recently and really don't care for them.  
They're going in the club auction next spring.


Allan

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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2014-05-08 Thread 'J Mck' via VFB Mail
The Rite Bobbins are the best
 
Jerry McKaughan, President 
CADDIS Fly Fishing Club 
P.O. Box 9104 
Russellville, AR 72811 
www.caddisflyfishers.org
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:30 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
On 5/8/14, 3:16 PM, Baz wrote:
 hi, you wrote thatNor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of 
 it,.What it means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich 
 bobbin(expensive) for rewind purposes. I used and have and had CF, 
 Master bobbin of TMC, regular one and Griffins etc and resold them all 
 and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3 tube head. I think if you do not 
 use them, you don't fill the right one. I saw rite bobbin too, but did 
 not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/


Baz,

Unlike Denny, I DO like the Norvise bobbin.  The ONLY trick to it is 
remembering to stop the end of the bobbin before you cut the thread 
off the fly.  Otherwise you'll spend all day re-threading the bobbin.

I picked up some rite bobbins recently and really don't care for them.  
They're going in the club auction next spring.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2014-05-08 Thread Allan Fish

Jerry,

It just goes to show that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 100 
different opinions.


I think the Nor-bobbins are the best. g

Allan



On 5/8/14, 3:34 PM, 'J Mck' via VFB Mail wrote:

The Rite Bobbins are the best
Jerry McKaughan, President
CADDIS Fly Fishing Club
P.O. Box 9104
Russellville, AR 72811
www.caddisflyfishers.org
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:30 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
On 5/8/14, 3:16 PM, Baz wrote:
 hi, you wrote thatNor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of
 it,.What it means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich
 bobbin(expensive) for rewind purposes. I used and have and had CF,
 Master bobbin of TMC, regular one and Griffins etc and resold them all
 and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3 tube head. I think if you do not
 use them, you don't fill the right one. I saw rite bobbin too, but did
 not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/


Baz,

Unlike Denny, I DO like the Norvise bobbin.  The ONLY trick to it is
remembering to stop the end of the bobbin before you cut the thread
off the fly.  Otherwise you'll spend all day re-threading the bobbin.

I picked up some rite bobbins recently and really don't care for them.
They're going in the club auction next spring.

Allan

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RE: [VFB] Bobbin

2014-05-08 Thread J Balmer
I agree, once I got the hang of the Norvise bobbin, I really liked it.

J

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On 5/8/14, 3:16 PM, Baz wrote:
 hi, you wrote thatNor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of 
 it,.What it means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich
 bobbin(expensive) for rewind purposes. I used and have and had CF, 
 Master bobbin of TMC, regular one and Griffins etc and resold them all 
 and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3 tube head. I think if you do not 
 use them, you don't fill the right one. I saw rite bobbin too, but did 
 not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/


Baz,

Unlike Denny, I DO like the Norvise bobbin.  The ONLY trick to it is 
remembering to stop the end of the bobbin before you cut the thread 
off the fly.  Otherwise you'll spend all day re-threading the bobbin.

I picked up some rite bobbins recently and really don't care for them.  
They're going in the club auction next spring.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2014-05-08 Thread Joyce M Westphal
I am amazed that you could not get the hang of either the Ekich or Novise
bobbins..all you have to do is let them rewind and, when they pull really
tight, on the Ekich, you simply release the spool and put it back on the
spindle again.  With the NorVise bobbin, you just remember it has an
automatic clutch so when you finish tying, hang it up or put a hackle
pliers on the end so it doesn't have the thread pull back in. On the
Norvise, you must wrap the thread once around the leg to have it wind back
properly.  Wish you'd have sold me your unusable bobbins at such a great
price.  I tie using only these two. Joyce


On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Baz baz...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi, you wrote thatNor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of it,.What it
 means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich bobbin(expensive) for rewind
 purposes. I used and have and had CF, Master bobbin of TMC, regular one
 and Griffins etc and resold them all and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3
 tube head. I think if you do not use them, you don't fill the right one. I
 saw rite bobbin too, but did not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/

 On Friday, May 17, 2013 12:25:21 PM UTC-7, Conranch wrote:

 Alan,

 Try it, you will like it far better than any auto bobbin.
 I tried to tie with the Erich bobbin and found it not good for my usage.
 I pd $50 for a Nor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of it, sold it
 for $25. He ties on a Nor vise.
 I have found the best for me in the rite bobbin.

 Denny


 On 5/17/2013 12:14 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote:
  Denny:
 
  I sell the Rite bobbin at Bass Pro but have not tied with one.
 
  I used to have a Norvise with the automatic bobbins but never was able
 to adjust it properly.
 
  The one I was asking about is supposed to be easier to use.
 
  I saw one advertised in one of the fly fishing mags but can't remember
 the correct name or how to spell it.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  Thank You,
  Alan Di Somma
  Phoenix, AZ.
 
  Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
 
 
 
  On May 17, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Conranch conr...@wildblue.net wrote:
 
  Alan,
  The bobbin I have switched to several years ago is the Rite Bobbin,
 and may not be the one you are looking for but.
  I enjoy placing a regular sized spool on it and not having to cobble
 fill from an odd sized one. the two big things I enjoy are the ceramic tip
  (I sometimes get a bit heavy handed) and it is easily adjusted for
 tension. Really a big plus to me.
  If interested, please contact me off list.
 
  Denny
 
  On 5/17/2013 11:19 AM, Alan Di Somma wrote:
  Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The
 Fly Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.
 
  The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a
 very expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows
 anything about it?
 
 
  BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a
 70 denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts
 more tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies
 with it I will give a report.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  Thank You,
  Alan Di Somma
  Phoenix, AZ.
 
  Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2014-05-08 Thread Alan Di Somma
Send me one and I will try it again

I do like the CF bobbin. Not an aout, but it really feels good in your hand.

Alan


On May 8, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Jerry,
 
 It just goes to show that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 100 different 
 opinions.
 
 I think the Nor-bobbins are the best.  g
 
 Allan
 
 
 
 On 5/8/14, 3:34 PM, 'J Mck' via VFB Mail wrote:
 
 The Rite Bobbins are the best
  
 Jerry McKaughan, President 
 CADDIS Fly Fishing Club 
 P.O. Box 9104 
 Russellville, AR 72811 
 www.caddisflyfishers.org
 On Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:30 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 On 5/8/14, 3:16 PM, Baz wrote:
  hi, you wrote thatNor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of 
  it,.What it means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich 
  bobbin(expensive) for rewind purposes. I used and have and had CF, 
  Master bobbin of TMC, regular one and Griffins etc and resold them all 
  and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3 tube head. I think if you do not 
  use them, you don't fill the right one. I saw rite bobbin too, but did 
  not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/
 
 
 Baz,
 
 Unlike Denny, I DO like the Norvise bobbin.  The ONLY trick to it is 
 remembering to stop the end of the bobbin before you cut the thread 
 off the fly.  Otherwise you'll spend all day re-threading the bobbin.
 
 I picked up some rite bobbins recently and really don't care for them.  
 They're going in the club auction next spring.
 
 Allan
 
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2014-05-08 Thread phxflytyer
That weird word-aoutwas supposed to be automatic.

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for 
being in the country illegally ...you might live in a country founded by 
geniuses but run by idiots.



From: Alan Di Somma 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 4:46 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Bobbin

Send me one and I will try it again 

I do like the CF bobbin. Not an aout, but it really feels good in your hand.

Alan


On May 8, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


  Jerry,

  It just goes to show that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 100 different 
opinions.

  I think the Nor-bobbins are the best.  g

  Allan



  On 5/8/14, 3:34 PM, 'J Mck' via VFB Mail wrote: 
The Rite Bobbins are the best

Jerry McKaughan, President 
CADDIS Fly Fishing Club 
P.O. Box 9104 
Russellville, AR 72811 
www.caddisflyfishers.org
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:30 PM, Allan Fish mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

On 5/8/14, 3:16 PM, Baz wrote:
 hi, you wrote thatNor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of 
 it,.What it means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich 
 bobbin(expensive) for rewind purposes. I used and have and had CF, 

 Master bobbin of TMC, regular one and Griffins etc and resold them all 
 and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3 tube head. I think if you do not 
 use them, you don't fill the right one. I saw rite bobbin too, but did 
 not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/


Baz,

Unlike Denny, I DO like the Norvise bobbin.  The ONLY trick to it is 
remembering to stop the end of the bobbin before you cut the thread 

off the fly.  Otherwise you'll spend all day re-threading the bobbin.

I picked up some rite bobbins recently and really don't care for them.  
They're going in the club auction next spring.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-18 Thread Joyce M Westphal
Check out the Norvise bobbin and Ekich automatic bobbin.  I have both and
use both.  The Novise automatically rewinds, but you do have to remember
that and hang it or put a hackle pliers on it when you are done with the
fly.  You have to rewind your bobbin thread on the round bobbin but it fits
the hand nicely.  The Ekich bobbin is neat in that it will accept a spool
of thread directly to the bobbin without having to rewind the thread thus
keeping the same tension on the thread that the manufacturer did. It has
the disadvantage that it does not have an automatic clutch, so when the
bobbin winds tight, you have to flick the thread spool up, let it rewind
and simply push the thread spool back again. You can find both of them on
the internet and, as previously stated, I have and love both. I couldn't
even think of tying without an automatic bobbin..it is the saving grace for
arthritic hands. Joyce


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

 Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The
 Fly Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.

 The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very
 expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows
 anything about it?


 BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70
 denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts more
 tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies with
 it I will give a report.


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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-18 Thread Alan Di Somma
Thanks to all for the great help and answers. Ain't this list great?

If any one out there has either of these two bobbins and do not like or do not 
use them, I would be willing to buy them.

Please let me know.


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On May 18, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com wrote:

 Check out the Norvise bobbin and Ekich automatic bobbin.  I have both and use 
 both.  The Novise automatically rewinds, but you do have to remember that and 
 hang it or put a hackle pliers on it when you are done with the fly.  You 
 have to rewind your bobbin thread on the round bobbin but it fits the hand 
 nicely.  The Ekich bobbin is neat in that it will accept a spool of thread 
 directly to the bobbin without having to rewind the thread thus keeping the 
 same tension on the thread that the manufacturer did. It has the disadvantage 
 that it does not have an automatic clutch, so when the bobbin winds tight, 
 you have to flick the thread spool up, let it rewind and simply push the 
 thread spool back again. You can find both of them on the internet and, as 
 previously stated, I have and love both. I couldn't even think of tying 
 without an automatic bobbin..it is the saving grace for arthritic hands. Joyce
 
 
 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:
 Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
 Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.
 
 The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
 expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
 anything about it?
 
 
 BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 
 denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts more 
 tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies with 
 it I will give a report.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Thank You,
 Alan Di Somma
 Phoenix, AZ.
 
 Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
 
 
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[VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Alan Di Somma
Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.

The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows anything 
about it?


BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 denier 
thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts more tension on 
the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies with it I will give 
a report.


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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Conranch

Alan,
The bobbin I have switched to several years ago is the Rite Bobbin, 
and may not be the one you are looking for but.
I enjoy placing a regular sized spool on it and not having to cobble 
fill from an odd sized one. the two big things I enjoy are the ceramic tip
(I sometimes get a bit heavy handed) and it is easily adjusted for 
tension. Really a big plus to me.

If interested, please contact me off list.

Denny

On 5/17/2013 11:19 AM, Alan Di Somma wrote:

Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.

The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows anything about it?


BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 denier 
thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts more tension on the 
thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies with it I will give a report.


Sent from my iPad

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Phoenix, AZ.

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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Martin Westbeek

Ekich?
Mart

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net

To: Vfb Fishing List vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:19 PM
Subject: [VFB] Bobbin


Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The 
Fly Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.


The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
anything about it?



BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 
denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts 
more tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies 
with it I will give a report.



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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Alan Di Somma
Denny:

I sell the Rite bobbin at Bass Pro but have not tied with one.

I used to have a Norvise with the automatic bobbins but never was able to 
adjust it properly.

The one I was asking about is supposed to be easier to use.

I saw one advertised in one of the fly fishing mags but can't remember the 
correct name or how to spell it.


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Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



On May 17, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Conranch conra...@wildblue.net wrote:

 Alan,
 The bobbin I have switched to several years ago is the Rite Bobbin, and may 
 not be the one you are looking for but.
 I enjoy placing a regular sized spool on it and not having to cobble fill 
 from an odd sized one. the two big things I enjoy are the ceramic tip
 (I sometimes get a bit heavy handed) and it is easily adjusted for tension. 
 Really a big plus to me.
 If interested, please contact me off list.
 
 Denny
 
 On 5/17/2013 11:19 AM, Alan Di Somma wrote:
 Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
 Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.
 
 The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
 expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
 anything about it?
 
 
 BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 
 denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts more 
 tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies with 
 it I will give a report.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Thank You,
 Alan Di Somma
 Phoenix, AZ.
 
 Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
 
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Alan Di Somma
That could be it. Do you have any info on it?




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On May 17, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl 
wrote:

 Ekich?
 Mart
 
 - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
 To: Vfb Fishing List vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:19 PM
 Subject: [VFB] Bobbin
 
 
 Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
 Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.
 
 The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
 expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
 anything about it?
 
 
 BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 
 denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts more 
 tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies with 
 it I will give a report.
 
 
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 Thank You,
 Alan Di Somma
 Phoenix, AZ.
 
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Allan Fish

On 5/17/13 2:19 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote:

Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.

The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows anything about it?
   
The only two automatic bobbins I know of are the Ekich and the Norvise 
(Nor-bobbin).  I have never used an Ekich, but I was given a 
Nor-bobbin.  I liked it so well I bought a second one.  I'm lost when I 
have to use a regular bobbin in occasion.


Dave Klausmeyer has an excellent review of both bobbins in the Spring 
2013 FlyTyer on page 12.


a.

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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Martin Westbeek

Alan,
This should give you what you need: http://www.automaticbobbin.com/
I have one. It has its good and weak points. Nicely made, it works as 
advertised but it's not balanced, which is awkward if you use split thread 
techniques a lot. Spinning the bobbin makes it wobble so gou must guide the 
thread and the tube if you need to spin the bobbin.


Mart

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Bobbin



Ekich?
Mart

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net

To: Vfb Fishing List vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:19 PM
Subject: [VFB] Bobbin


Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The 
Fly Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.


The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
anything about it?



BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 
denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts 
more tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few 
flies with it I will give a report.



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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Alan Di Somma
Great thnx Allan. I will look for my copy and read it.

Do you remember which one he liked best?


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On May 17, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On 5/17/13 2:19 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote:
 Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
 Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.
 
 The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
 expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
 anything about it?
 The only two automatic bobbins I know of are the Ekich and the Norvise 
 (Nor-bobbin).  I have never used an Ekich, but I was given a Nor-bobbin.  I 
 liked it so well I bought a second one.  I'm lost when I have to use a 
 regular bobbin in occasion.
 
 Dave Klausmeyer has an excellent review of both bobbins in the Spring 2013 
 FlyTyer on page 12.
 
 a.
 
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Conranch

Alan,

Try it, you will like it far better than any auto bobbin.
I tried to tie with the Erich bobbin and found it not good for my usage.
I pd $50 for a Nor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of it, sold it 
for $25. He ties on a Nor vise.

I have found the best for me in the rite bobbin.

Denny


On 5/17/2013 12:14 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote:

Denny:

I sell the Rite bobbin at Bass Pro but have not tied with one.

I used to have a Norvise with the automatic bobbins but never was able to 
adjust it properly.

The one I was asking about is supposed to be easier to use.

I saw one advertised in one of the fly fishing mags but can't remember the 
correct name or how to spell it.


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



On May 17, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Conranch conra...@wildblue.net wrote:


Alan,
The bobbin I have switched to several years ago is the Rite Bobbin, and may 
not be the one you are looking for but.
I enjoy placing a regular sized spool on it and not having to cobble fill from 
an odd sized one. the two big things I enjoy are the ceramic tip
(I sometimes get a bit heavy handed) and it is easily adjusted for tension. 
Really a big plus to me.
If interested, please contact me off list.

Denny

On 5/17/2013 11:19 AM, Alan Di Somma wrote:

Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.

The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows anything about it?


BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 denier 
thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts more tension on the 
thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies with it I will give a report.


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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Alan Di Somma
Thanks a lot Mart. That is the kind of info I was looking for.

I tie a lot of big flies for bass and pike, so I do have to spin the bobbin 
quite a few times to complete a fly. I also put half hitches in at every tie in 
point so I usually have to rewind the bobbin a lot.

I usually don't split the thread to install dubbing! So being offset doesn't 
come in to play for me.


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On May 17, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl 
wrote:

 Alan,
 This should give you what you need: http://www.automaticbobbin.com/
 I have one. It has its good and weak points. Nicely made, it works as 
 advertised but it's not balanced, which is awkward if you use split thread 
 techniques a lot. Spinning the bobbin makes it wobble so gou must guide the 
 thread and the tube if you need to spin the bobbin.
 
 Mart
 
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 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:13 PM
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 Ekich?
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 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:19 PM
 Subject: [VFB] Bobbin
 
 
 Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The Fly 
 Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.
 
 The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
 expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
 anything about it?
 
 
 BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 
 denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts more 
 tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies with 
 it I will give a report.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Thank You,
 Alan Di Somma
 Phoenix, AZ.
 
 Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
 
 
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Alan Di Somma
Thanks Denny. I think I will open a pkg today when I go to work and try 
it.real tough working in a fly shop?


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Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



On May 17, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Conranch conra...@wildblue.net wrote:

 Alan,
 
 Try it, you will like it far better than any auto bobbin.
 I tried to tie with the Erich bobbin and found it not good for my usage.
 I pd $50 for a Nor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of it, sold it for 
 $25. He ties on a Nor vise.
 I have found the best for me in the rite bobbin.
 
 Denny
 
 
 On 5/17/2013 12:14 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote:
 Denny:
 
 I sell the Rite bobbin at Bass Pro but have not tied with one.
 
 I used to have a Norvise with the automatic bobbins but never was able to 
 adjust it properly.
 
 The one I was asking about is supposed to be easier to use.
 
 I saw one advertised in one of the fly fishing mags but can't remember the 
 correct name or how to spell it.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Thank You,
 Alan Di Somma
 Phoenix, AZ.
 
 Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
 
 
 
 On May 17, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Conranch conra...@wildblue.net wrote:
 
 Alan,
 The bobbin I have switched to several years ago is the Rite Bobbin, and 
 may not be the one you are looking for but.
 I enjoy placing a regular sized spool on it and not having to cobble fill 
 from an odd sized one. the two big things I enjoy are the ceramic tip
 (I sometimes get a bit heavy handed) and it is easily adjusted for tension. 
 Really a big plus to me.
 If interested, please contact me off list.
 
 Denny
 
 On 5/17/2013 11:19 AM, Alan Di Somma wrote:
 Folks.I have just been looking thru eBay-Feathercraft-KStockard-The 
 Fly Shop- and any other places looking for a specific bobbin.
 
 The name escapes me, but it is something like Liecht and it is a very 
 expensive  automatic bobbin. Has any one ever tied with one or knows 
 anything about it?
 
 
 BTW I bought the CF bobbin but haven't tied on it yet but did load a 70 
 denier thread on it. It feels good in your hand but seems like it puts 
 more tension on the thread then a standard bobbin. After I tie a few flies 
 with it I will give a report.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Thank You,
 Alan Di Somma
 Phoenix, AZ.
 
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

2013-05-17 Thread Allan Fish

On 5/17/13 3:25 PM, Conranch wrote:

Alan,

Try it, you will like it far better than any auto bobbin.
I tried to tie with the Erich bobbin and found it not good for my usage.
I pd $50 for a Nor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of it, sold it 
for $25. He ties on a Nor vise.

I have found the best for me in the rite bobbin.

Denny


Denny, the choice of RIte, Norbobbin or Ekich bobbin is a matter of 
personal preference.


I was given one of Norm's bobbins by a friend.  It did take a few tries 
to get used to putting the cap on the end before cutting the thread (if 
you don't, it rewinds itself completely and then you have to rethread 
it).  I now like it so well I really don't care to try any other kind.


It's a shame there isn't some place where a person could sit down and 
try out all three before they decide which one to buy.


I'm glad to hear the Rite bobbin works well for you.

Best to you.

Al

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[VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?

2011-02-23 Thread Wes Wada
Hi VFB!

A question:  I am in the market for a fly tying bobbin holder that is meant
to handle those small stainless steel spools made for sewing machines.

In looking over the various manufacturers' catalogs, I see a confusing array
of bobbin holders:  some labeled small or midge but none saying
specifically that a sewing machine spool can be held by these without some
wire bending, Rube Goldberg inventiveness.

Budget is also a consideration.  Ceramic tips would also be nice.

What do you recommend as a value-priced bobbin holder meant for the small
sewing machine spools?

Any other alternatives or suggestions other than going that route?


Thanks,

Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon

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Re: [VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?

2011-02-23 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi Wes;
 
I use Cascade Crest tools ceramic midge bobbin for both Pearsalls spools and 
sewing machine bobbins.
 
Link:  
http://cascadecrest.com/index.php?page=shop.product_detailsflypage=shop.flypageproduct_id=81category_id=2manufacturer_id=0option=com_virtuemartItemid=32

Wayne

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From: Wes Wada wada@gmail.com
Subject: [VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?
To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 1:13 PM


Hi VFB!


A question:  I am in the market for a fly tying bobbin holder that is meant to 
handle those small stainless steel spools made for sewing machines.


In looking over the various manufacturers' catalogs, I see a confusing array of 
bobbin holders:  some labeled small or midge but none saying specifically 
that a sewing machine spool can be held by these without some wire bending, 
Rube Goldberg inventiveness.


Budget is also a consideration.  Ceramic tips would also be nice.


What do you recommend as a value-priced bobbin holder meant for the small 
sewing machine spools?


Any other alternatives or suggestions other than going that route?




Thanks,


Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?

2011-02-23 Thread The Smiths
Matarelli makes a bobbin holder just for the small spools. They list for $18.95 
in Feather-crafts fly fishing catalog. You can find them on line at 
feather-craft.com.

Gary S.
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Hi Wes;

I use Cascade Crest tools ceramic midge bobbin for both Pearsalls 
spools and sewing machine bobbins.

Link:  
http://cascadecrest.com/index.php?page=shop.product_detailsflypage=shop.flypageproduct_id=81category_id=2manufacturer_id=0option=com_virtuemartItemid=32

Wayne

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  From: Wes Wada wada@gmail.com
  Subject: [VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?
  To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 1:13 PM


  Hi VFB! 


  A question:  I am in the market for a fly tying bobbin holder that is 
meant to handle those small stainless steel spools made for sewing machines.


  In looking over the various manufacturers' catalogs, I see a 
confusing array of bobbin holders:  some labeled small or midge but none 
saying specifically that a sewing machine spool can be held by these without 
some wire bending, Rube Goldberg inventiveness.


  Budget is also a consideration.  Ceramic tips would also be nice.


  What do you recommend as a value-priced bobbin holder meant for the 
small sewing machine spools?


  Any other alternatives or suggestions other than going that route?




  Thanks,


  Wes Wada
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?

2011-02-23 Thread Anthony Spezio
Some years ago I bought a set of spools with a holder at a FF show in N.Y. It 
had 8 bobbins and a mini holder in a plastic box. I think it was less than 
10.00.
They might still be available at some shops. It was a name company but I don't 
remember it off hand. It is buried in one of my plastic tubs.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?
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Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 2:37 PM



 
 

Matarelli makes a bobbin holder just for the small 
spools. They list for $18.95 in Feather-crafts fly fishing catalog. You can 
find 
them on line at feather-craft.com.
 
Gary S.

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  Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:10 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Bobbin holder for 
  sewing machine size spools?
  

  


  
Hi Wes;
 
I use Cascade Crest tools ceramic midge bobbin for both Pearsalls 
spools and sewing machine bobbins.
 
Link:  
http://cascadecrest.com/index.php?page=shop.product_detailsflypage=shop.flypageproduct_id=81category_id=2manufacturer_id=0option=com_virtuemartItemid=32

Wayne

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From: 
  Wes Wada wada@gmail.com
Subject: [VFB] Bobbin holder 
  for sewing machine size spools?
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Date: Wednesday, February 23, 
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  Hi VFB! 
  

  A question:  I am in the market for a fly tying bobbin 
  holder that is meant to handle those small stainless steel spools 
made 
  for sewing machines.
  

  In looking over the various manufacturers' catalogs, I see a 
  confusing array of bobbin holders:  some labeled small or 
  midge but none saying specifically that a sewing machine spool can 
  be held by these without some wire bending, Rube Goldberg 
  inventiveness.
  

  Budget is also a consideration.  Ceramic tips would also be 
  nice.
  

  What do you recommend as a value-priced bobbin holder meant for 
  the small sewing machine spools?
  

  Any other alternatives or suggestions other than going that 
  route?
  

  

  Thanks,
  

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Re: [VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?

2011-02-23 Thread Peggy Brenner
Wes, I use those bobbins with a very inexpensive Griffin (I think) 
bobbin, the one with the black rubberish part to hold the bobbin in it.


Peggy

On 2/23/2011 1:13 PM, Wes Wada wrote:

Hi VFB!

A question:  I am in the market for a fly tying bobbin holder that is
meant to handle those small stainless steel spools made for sewing machines.

In looking over the various manufacturers' catalogs, I see a confusing
array of bobbin holders:  some labeled small or midge but none
saying specifically that a sewing machine spool can be held by these
without some wire bending, Rube Goldberg inventiveness.

Budget is also a consideration.  Ceramic tips would also be nice.

What do you recommend as a value-priced bobbin holder meant for the
small sewing machine spools?

Any other alternatives or suggestions other than going that route?


Thanks,

Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon



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Re: [VFB] Bobbin holder for sewing machine size spools?

2011-02-23 Thread Rodger Oleson

 --- On Wed, 2/23/11, Wes Wada wada@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi VFB!
   A question:  I am in the market for a fly tying bobbin holder that 
is meant to handle those small stainless steel spools made for sewing 
machines.



Wes,  Parnelli sent me a little plastic box of Pearsall Silks with a 
tiny bobbin included.  It is just the right size for those little 
bobbins.  Don't know where it came from or what brand it is, but I'll 
write and ask him if he remembers.


Rodger

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