[VFB] Help for a VFB member
Fellow VFB member Birdie aka Brian Burgess is back in hospital again following his previous hospitalization over Christmas. Perhaps we can let him know that we are all thinking and praying for him and that we care about him. Birdie's email address is brian.burge...@btinternet.com and although and he may have some difficulty to access his e-mail account, he did eventually respond to me off list. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Help for a VFB member
Thanks ChucK. Birdie is having a tough time right now. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada On Mar 22, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Neville: Good idea. Thanks for the notification. Chuck -Original Message- From: Neville Gosling Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:54 PM To: Virtual Fly Box Subject: [VFB] Help for a VFB member Fellow VFB member Birdie aka Brian Burgess is back in hospital again following his previous hospitalization over Christmas. Perhaps we can let him know that we are all thinking and praying for him and that we care about him. Birdie's email address is brian.burge...@btinternet.com and although and he may have some difficulty to access his e-mail account, he did eventually respond to me off list. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Help for a VFB member
I hate to hear that. He seems like one heck of a nice guy, Chuck -Original Message- From: Neville Gosling Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 4:33 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Help for a VFB member Thanks ChucK. Birdie is having a tough time right now. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada On Mar 22, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Neville: Good idea. Thanks for the notification. Chuck -Original Message- From: Neville Gosling Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:54 PM To: Virtual Fly Box Subject: [VFB] Help for a VFB member Fellow VFB member Birdie aka Brian Burgess is back in hospital again following his previous hospitalization over Christmas. Perhaps we can let him know that we are all thinking and praying for him and that we care about him. Birdie's email address is brian.burge...@btinternet.com and although and he may have some difficulty to access his e-mail account, he did eventually respond to me off list. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4311/9358 - Release Date: 03/22/15 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[VFB] Help !
Nev. Ihave a Mac in garage.same problems. send and receive get messed up. IThink it's me, not the computers.'TX JIMMY D Will somebody let me know if I'm getting out now -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Help !
On 1/3/15, 12:44 PM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote: Nev. Ihave a Mac in garage.same problems. send and receive get messed up. IThink it's me, not the computers.' Aw, surely not!! G It's Earthlink. My sister had the same problems. af -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
It's not a matter of the thinner the better. I know several sources who could solve as thin as possible, if it came to that. No, the ones on the fly are exactly the ones I wan't for the job. No tractor tires and no miniature spaghetthi. Just a matter of dedication and perseverance. My version is the tyers way of saying I give up. But I'm a man who's ready to fight for his cause. I won't rest until they close the wooden lid... /Jester (Remember me ;o) ) -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För Michael Bliss Skickat: den 18 juli 2012 01:16 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... I have the MS legs and they are very thin. I can use them on tiny flies 18-24. Yours look nice but I think the smaller diameter would have more movement in the water. Mike On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: Here are a few of my named ones for comparison: * Spirit River Tarantu-Leggs, size MINI * Original fly * Wag's, size SMALL * Wapsi, size MEDIUM Beside eachother and full-size cuts... /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För Rick Zieger Skickat: den 17 juli 2012 14:40 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... Could you show the original fly against a few sizes of rubber? I have some very fine rubber legs that might work for you. Rick --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote: From: Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 9:32 AM Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com http://www.linesend.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
Nick, Good to see you post even though the Chili Pepper failed you. LOL It has seldom failed me but it has at times. All flies will at times. I am saying this with tongue in cheek. Those flies look like it would be a killer here on Crooked Creek. Sorry I can't shed more light on the tail material. I am sure someone will be able to give you the answer. Nice story you posted about you two girls and fishing. I bet they are really growing up fast. Dot and I would like to have you back to stay with us again. Tony From: Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:32 AM Subject: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
Could you show the original fly against a few sizes of rubber? I have some very fine rubber legs that might work for you. Rick --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote: From: Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 9:32 AM Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
Check out shrimp legs at blueribbonflies.com they also have spandex legs but I did not see any in white. I really like this company for their great service. Joyce Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2012, at 3:32 AM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote: Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com fly.jpg tails.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
Nick; If you have an old bungee cord, you may have the rubber legs you are looking for. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Rick Zieger rdzieg...@yahoo.com wrote: Could you show the original fly against a few sizes of rubber? I have some very fine rubber legs that might work for you. Rick --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote: From: Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 9:32 AM Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
The link opens my own Gmail inbox which says that the conversation no longer exists...? /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För Michael Bliss Skickat: den 17 juli 2012 20:15 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... Nick look at this https://mail.google.com/mail/#inbox/1389234b40881e07 Mike On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote: Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
If it's a specific VFB topic/conversation you're refering to, give me the time of it. All VFB-mails go to my Outlook too, so it might be found there... -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För Niclas Runarsson Skickat: den 17 juli 2012 21:10 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... The link opens my own Gmail inbox which says that the conversation no longer exists...? /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För Michael Bliss Skickat: den 17 juli 2012 20:15 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... Nick look at this https://mail.google.com/mail/#inbox/1389234b40881e07 Mike On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote: Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
Usually the smaller diameter bungee cords have the finer strands. I have seen some though that were just one solid strand. Luck of the draw as to which you get. Gary L Webb From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Di Somma Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:22 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... Nick; If you have an old bungee cord, you may have the rubber legs you are looking for. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Rick Zieger rdzieg...@yahoo.commailto:rdzieg...@yahoo.com wrote: Could you show the original fly against a few sizes of rubber? I have some very fine rubber legs that might work for you. Rick --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.commailto:n.runars...@gmail.com wrote: From: Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.commailto:n.runars...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.commailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 9:32 AM Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.commailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.comhttp://www.linesend.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.commailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.commailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
I might have come up with something now. To begin with, it wasn't Dan Bailey's like I first said. I confused it thanks to that I at the same time was looking through bags of Dan Bailey's long flash chenille, to that other ugly fly I was going to replicate. The rubber leg bag says 'Wag's Fly Tying Materials'... and on the back the address to 'The Fly Den' (Lewistown, ID). The back of the label shows a range of four sizes (large, medium, small, fine), of which I have the small one. This 'Fine' is a size I'm curious about. I can't find Wag's or The Fly Den anywhere. But another one who has a size 'Fine' is Hareline... and at J Stockard it's described as about 1/2 mm. Sounds about right (even though I know that little means much here). So it might be worth a shot. If it's what I want, then good. If it's the same about 1/2 mm as my 'Small' one... well, at least I'll have a spare. LOL /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För Webb, Gary Skickat: den 17 juli 2012 21:22 Till: 'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com' Ämne: RE: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... Usually the smaller diameter bungee cords have the finer strands. I have seen some though that were just one solid strand. Luck of the draw as to which you get. Gary L Webb From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Di Somma Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:22 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... Nick; If you have an old bungee cord, you may have the rubber legs you are looking for. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Rick Zieger rdzieg...@yahoo.com wrote: Could you show the original fly against a few sizes of rubber? I have some very fine rubber legs that might work for you. Rick --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com wrote: From: Niclas (Gmail) n.runars...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 9:32 AM Last week I tried out a new fly that I (just because it was so ugly) bought earlier this summer in a fly shop up north. As ugly as it was, it turned out to be quite effective. When everything else I tried (including the Chili Pepper) struck out, this one seemed to work. But a couple of days ago, when Teresa and the girls were with me, I lost one in a tree almost immediately after losing the first fish. I didn't want to risk losing the second (last) one before I had copied it, so I chose something else that had a little of the same features - very visible, very slowly sinking... and ugliness: a white bugger with a bunch of round rubber legs for tail. MAN was that a good choice!!! It turned out to be a fish magnet. Before they had even left I had lost another fish... and at the end of the day I had caught three, lost another two, and missed three or four takes (and naturally lost the two white flies). Considering that I was only there for three hours (and that also other club members say that it seems slow there now)... it was something out of the ordinary. If it wasn't the lake that suddenly had a very good day, this will probably be my new goto fly. (Sorry Tony... the Chili Pepper is out. LOL) I'm quite sure I got these rubber tailed buggers from someone at the VFB, two black and two white (unfortunately now lost), either as bonus flies in a swap or along with one of the kick off boxes which were sent to me when I first got stuck in here. They have been sitting untouched in my flybox for quite a while so I can't remember which. Last night I was going to tie up more of the white ones but even though I thought that the thinnest rubber legs I had were very thin... these ones were even thinner. I took a picture for comparison: The left fly is the original black version. The right fly is my (as it turned out: fat tailed) test replica... with Dan Bailey's rubber legs size Small. Anyone who recognizes this fly and can tell me what kind of rubber legs they are? Pictures 'fly.jpg' and 'tails.jpg' attached. Direct links in case they don't get through: http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/fly.jpg http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/runarsson/tails.jpg /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com http://www.linesend.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
You may also want to look at the baby legs alive? at fly tyers dungeon they are pretty fine. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs...
I actually sat in the fly-tying room experimenting with substitutes when I got this mail. One of them also was the standard size Legs Alive, by picking out the really small ones from the hank (the sizes aren't very consistent)... but they weren't really the same thing. I do love those Legs Alive and often prefer them before round rubber legs. But this time it was the round ones I wanted. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För Robert Morger Skickat: den 17 juli 2012 23:19 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Help with fly / rubber legs... You may also want to look at the baby legs alive? at fly tyers dungeon they are pretty fine. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help
2012 Summertime Hopper Swap Here are the particulars on this swap. Have 13 swappers so we will tye 14 flies. Tie 14 flies Fly hook size 10 or smaller Please toe tag all flies Flies due by July 15th 2012 One set will go to a auction to support Arkansas Children’s Hospital Mail files to the address below with self addressed stamped envelope for the return postage. Jerry McKaughan P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 Current Swappers 1. Jerry McKaughan 2. George Vincent 3. Gary Webb 4. Rick Zieger 5. Rene Zillmann 6. Robert Zillmann 7. Chuck Alexander 8. Robert Morger 9. Joseph Fusco, Sr. 10. Ashley Strutt 11. Salty Dan 12. Alan D Somma 13. Wayne Blake-Hedge Jerry McKaughan P.O. Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 www.caddisflyfishers.org 15 flies to Jery 2012 Summertime Hopper Swap Here are the particulars on this swap. Have 13 swappers so we will tye 14 flies. Jerry McKaughan P.O. Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 www.caddisflyfishers.org - Yo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help
Allan, If you lay off the juice you won't have a sop story. ;) Mike On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** I'll preface my sop story with the following whine: I sadly had to get a new computer. Although everything was backed up, the new system won't read mail files created buy the old system. Gee thanks! ANYWAY - I signed up to be in a grasshopper swap and have lost all information about it. I don't even remember who the host is, let alone remembering how many to tie nor when the deadline is. Any help to jog my memory or kick me in the wazoo would be greatly appreciated. Tks, af -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Help
I'll preface my sop story with the following whine: I sadly had to get a new computer. Although everything was backed up, the new system won't read mail files created buy the old system. Gee thanks! ANYWAY - I signed up to be in a grasshopper swap and have lost all information about it. I don't even remember who the host is, let alone remembering how many to tie nor when the deadline is. Any help to jog my memory or kick me in the wazoo would be greatly appreciated. Tks, af -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
Don, I agree with you. * I started out with a cheap chinese clamp jaw vice, graduated to a thompson ultra, and then to a renzetti traveler with the screw type jaws, which has been modified to a cam. Drilled and tapped it myself to lock the rotary shaft as needed, and added tube fly head, accessories such as the hackle holder and hackle gauge, as well as the ever present waste basket below. * Started out with my moms sewing scissors. Have now graduated to 5 pairs of Dr. Slick scissors, and a pair of Anvil finger loop offset scissors. * Started out with a close pin for a hackle plier. Now have several types of hackle pliers lying around. * Started out with an a upholstry needle for a bodkin. Now have a nice one by thompson, doesn't roll around when I need it. * Started out using my hands for a bobbin, and whip finished by hand. Now have 6 or so bobbins, and several whip finishers. Also have a set of hitch tools. * Lord knows how many other tools I have in my bag and on my desk-hair stackers, cauterizer, several dubbing loop tools, blender, wire brush tool, tweezers, etc., etc. Damn, I picked up a bunch of stuff over 30 years LOL Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 8:42:22 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Bob, Let'em learn like I did- no vise, tools, tying supplies, or instruction. Give them some road-kill parts- feathers and furs, and some photos of finished flies with the basic sequences. Might sound like I being facetious, but in actually, they'll always appreciate for the rest of their tying days having the right materials and tools once they get them. I know this won't happen, but it would do them good and teach them how important dexterity is. Beginning tiers today take for granted the incredible array of materials, tools, and training available, and I think the lack of all of that to start would enhance the appreciation once the good stuff in incorporated. From Thompson A vices and Chinese necks to Renzetti's and Whiting super-saddles- everything has come so far. DonO Will be signing off for another week starting tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: [VFB] Help needed. Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
Eric, I quit using a whip finisher about 25 years ago, Doing a hand whip finish is quicker. When doing commercial tying, every second you save is a bonus. Started out tying off with half hitches then learned how to whip finish by hand. That was over 60 years ago. When I got back into tying again in 1988 I found the whip finisher. I found that I liked using my hand better than the tool so I stayed with it. My first vise was a home made vise, then I went to a Thompson B. Now I own about 20 vises and only use two or three of them. I have a small Dyna King that I use while traveling to our monthly tying sessions. A Norlander for tying Bugger type flies and a larger Dyna King for show tying. The others are just ones that I collected over the years. I am just posting this to see if we can get some life back on the list, I miss the posts. Tony From: Eric Worm flytyer...@yahoo.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Don, I agree with you. * I started out with a cheap chinese clamp jaw vice, graduated to a thompson ultra, and then to a renzetti traveler with the screw type jaws, which has been modified to a cam. Drilled and tapped it myself to lock the rotary shaft as needed, and added tube fly head, accessories such as the hackle holder and hackle gauge, as well as the ever present waste basket below. * Started out with my moms sewing scissors. Have now graduated to 5 pairs of Dr. Slick scissors, and a pair of Anvil finger loop offset scissors. * Started out with a close pin for a hackle plier. Now have several types of hackle pliers lying around. * Started out with an a upholstry needle for a bodkin. Now have a nice one by thompson, doesn't roll around when I need it. * Started out using my hands for a bobbin, and whip finished by hand. Now have 6 or so bobbins, and several whip finishers. Also have a set of hitch tools. * Lord knows how many other tools I have in my bag and on my desk-hair stackers, cauterizer, several dubbing loop tools, blender, wire brush tool, tweezers, etc., etc. Damn, I picked up a bunch of stuff over 30 years LOL Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 8:42:22 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Bob, Let'em learn like I did- no vise, tools, tying supplies, or instruction. Give them some road-kill parts- feathers and furs, and some photos of finished flies with the basic sequences. Might sound like I being facetious, but in actually, they'll always appreciate for the rest of their tying days having the right materials and tools once they get them. I know this won't happen, but it would do them good and teach them how important dexterity is. Beginning tiers today take for granted the incredible array of materials, tools, and training available, and I think the lack of all of that to start would enhance the appreciation once the good stuff in incorporated. From Thompson A vices and Chinese necks to Renzetti's and Whiting super-saddles- everything has come so far. DonO Will be signing off for another week starting tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: [VFB] Help needed. Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr
Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
Somehow similar story here. But later I started to whip by hand, use some flee market sissor and a hatpin as dubing needle. So, only 2 or 3 tools on the bench, makes life easier. The remaining stuff is in a box. Some how downgrade process G Ahh stop: Dubbing wirl for some pattern. Rene On 12/21/2011 06:27 PM, Eric Worm wrote: Don, I agree with you. * I started out with a cheap chinese clamp jaw vice, graduated to a thompson ultra, and then to a renzetti traveler with the screw type jaws, which has been modified to a cam. Drilled and tapped it myself to lock the rotary shaft as needed, and added tube fly head, accessories such as the hackle holder and hackle gauge, as well as the ever present waste basket below. * Started out with my moms sewing scissors. Have now graduated to 5 pairs of Dr. Slick scissors, and a pair of Anvil finger loop offset scissors. * Started out with a close pin for a hackle plier. Now have several types of hackle pliers lying around. * Started out with an a upholstry needle for a bodkin. Now have a nice one by thompson, doesn't roll around when I need it. * Started out using my hands for a bobbin, and whip finished by hand. Now have 6 or so bobbins, and several whip finishers. Also have a set of hitch tools. * Lord knows how many other tools I have in my bag and on my desk-hair stackers, cauterizer, several dubbing loop tools, blender, wire brush tool, tweezers, etc., etc. Damn, I picked up a bunch of stuff over 30 years LOL *Eric Worm* *Reed City, MI 49677* ** *And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms* *From:* Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tue, December 20, 2011 8:42:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Bob, Let'em learn like I did- no vise, tools, tying supplies, or instruction. Give them some road-kill parts- feathers and furs, and some photos of finished flies with the basic sequences. Might sound like I being facetious, but in actually, they'll always appreciate for the rest of their tying days having the right materials and tools once they get them. I know this won't happen, but it would do them good and teach them how important dexterity is. Beginning tiers today take for granted the incredible array of materials, tools, and training available, and I think the lack of all of that to start would enhance the appreciation once the good stuff in incorporated. From Thompson A vices and Chinese necks to Renzetti's and Whiting super-saddles- everything has come so far. DonO Will be signing off for another week starting tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com mailto:rmor...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: [VFB] Help needed. Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com http://www.linesend.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr
Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) I am still amazed by people that can whip finish by hand quickly, with a great not at the end. I miss seeing the posts and posting as well... Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 21, 2011 1:15:08 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Eric, I quit using a whip finisher about 25 years ago, Doing a hand whip finish is quicker. When doing commercial tying, every second you save is a bonus. Started out tying off with half hitches then learned how to whip finish by hand. That was over 60 years ago. When I got back into tying again in 1988 I found the whip finisher. I found that I liked using my hand better than the tool so I stayed with it. My first vise was a home made vise, then I went to a Thompson B. Now I own about 20 vises and only use two or three of them. I have a small Dyna King that I use while traveling to our monthly tying sessions. A Norlander for tying Bugger type flies and a larger Dyna King for show tying. The others are just ones that I collected over the years. I am just posting this to see if we can get some life back on the list, I miss the posts. Tony From: Eric Worm flytyer...@yahoo.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Don, I agree with you. * I started out with a cheap chinese clamp jaw vice, graduated to a thompson ultra, and then to a renzetti traveler with the screw type jaws, which has been modified to a cam. Drilled and tapped it myself to lock the rotary shaft as needed, and added tube fly head, accessories such as the hackle holder and hackle gauge, as well as the ever present waste basket below. * Started out with my moms sewing scissors. Have now graduated to 5 pairs of Dr. Slick scissors, and a pair of Anvil finger loop offset scissors. * Started out with a close pin for a hackle plier. Now have several types of hackle pliers lying around. * Started out with an a upholstry needle for a bodkin. Now have a nice one by thompson, doesn't roll around when I need it. * Started out using my hands for a bobbin, and whip finished by hand. Now have 6 or so bobbins, and several whip finishers. Also have a set of hitch tools. * Lord knows how many other tools I have in my bag and on my desk-hair stackers, cauterizer, several dubbing loop tools, blender, wire brush tool, tweezers, etc., etc. Damn, I picked up a bunch of stuff over 30 years LOL Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 8:42:22 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Bob, Let'em learn like I did- no vise, tools, tying supplies, or instruction. Give them some road-kill parts- feathers and furs, and some photos of finished flies with the basic sequences. Might sound like I being facetious, but in actually, they'll always appreciate for the rest of their tying days having the right materials and tools once they get them. I know this won't happen, but it would do them good and teach them how important dexterity is. Beginning tiers today take for granted the incredible array of materials, tools, and training available, and I think the lack of all of that to start would enhance the appreciation once the good stuff in incorporated. From Thompson A vices and Chinese necks to Renzetti's and Whiting super-saddles- everything has come so far. DonO Will be signing off for another week starting tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: [VFB] Help needed. Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I
WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) snip Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 Eric, It's a shame you're a 6 hour drive from here. I'll be tying at a fly show at the IN State Fairground on Jan. 7th. I could have you doing a reliable whip finish in 5 minutes. Well, no more than 6 or 7, anyway. I will admit, however, I STILL use the Matarelli tool on midges and other small flies. Just a matter of preference. But maybe it's just as well you live so far away. Just think about it a minute. Having a Worm and a Fish together would definitely generate too many snarky comments. :-P Al -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classesHaving a Worm and a Fish together would definitely generate too many snarky comments. ROTFL! Good thing Buggs is no longer around... He wouldn't have passed that one up for anything. My trip was postponed today. First, the truck heater blower switch quit. And then the storm we were trying to beat moved in. Hope we can still make it out tomorrow. There's a sunny day at the other end of the drive. DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
It's all related to finger size. Long slender fingers = easy by hand. Fat stubby fingers like mine = Tuff to whip finish by hand. Hate those Matarelli tools. Too much slippage. JIMMY D Allan Fish wrote: I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) snip Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 Eric, It's a shame you're a 6 hour drive from here. I'll be tying at a fly show at the IN State Fairground on Jan. 7th. I could have you doing a reliable whip finish in 5 minutes. Well, no more than 6 or 7, anyway. I will admit, however, I STILL use the Matarelli tool on midges and other small flies. Just a matter of preference. But maybe it's just as well you live so far away. Just think about it a minute. Having a Worm and a Fish together would definitely generate too many snarky comments. :-P Al -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
Been tying for 35 years and still haven't figured out how to use a Griffin whip finisher. Materelli for smaller flies and presentation finishes, hand whip for larger flies. Jack Austin On 12/21/2011 2:21 PM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote: It's all related to finger size. Long slender fingers = easy by hand. Fat stubby fingers like mine = Tuff to whip finish by hand. Hate those Matarelli tools. Too much slippage. JIMMY D Allan Fish wrote: I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) snip *Eric Worm* *Reed City, MI 49677* Eric, It's a shame you're a 6 hour drive from here. I'll be tying at a fly show at the IN State Fairground on Jan. 7th. I could have you doing a reliable whip finish in 5 minutes. Well, no more than 6 or 7, anyway. I will admit, however, I STILL use the Matarelli tool on midges and other small flies. Just a matter of preference. But maybe it's just as well you live so far away. Just think about it a minute. Having a Worm and a Fish together would definitely generate too many snarky comments. :-P Al -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired,http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html *º*** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
all this whipfinish talk...once the Christmas and New Years are in the books, i gotta review my knots and stuff!!! Tom in Vermont On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Jack Lehman jklepo...@sbcglobal.netwrote: ** Been tying for 35 years and still haven't figured out how to use a Griffin whip finisher. Materelli for smaller flies and presentation finishes, hand whip for larger flies. Jack Austin On 12/21/2011 2:21 PM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote: It's all related to finger size. Long slender fingers = easy by hand. Fat stubby fingers like mine = Tuff to whip finish by hand. Hate those Matarelli tools. Too much slippage. JIMMY D Allan Fish wrote: I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) snip *Eric Worm* *Reed City, MI 49677* Eric, It's a shame you're a 6 hour drive from here. I'll be tying at a fly show at the IN State Fairground on Jan. 7th. I could have you doing a reliable whip finish in 5 minutes. Well, no more than 6 or 7, anyway. I will admit, however, I STILL use the Matarelli tool on midges and other small flies. Just a matter of preference. But maybe it's just as well you live so far away. Just think about it a minute. Having a Worm and a Fish together would definitely generate too many snarky comments. :-P Al -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- *I never met a true angler who is not by nature at least a somewhat hopeful person.* * Charles Gauvin* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes- Griffin
Jack, I use Griffin feathers, but not a Griffin whip finisher... DonO - Original Message - From: Jack Lehman To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:26 PM Subject: Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Been tying for 35 years and still haven't figured out how to use a Griffin whip finisher. Materelli for smaller flies and presentation finishes, hand whip for larger flies. Jack Austin On 12/21/2011 2:21 PM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote: It's all related to finger size. Long slender fingers = easy by hand. Fat stubby fingers like mine = Tuff to whip finish by hand. Hate those Matarelli tools. Too much slippage. JIMMY D Allan Fish wrote: I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) snip Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 Eric, It's a shame you're a 6 hour drive from here. I'll be tying at a fly show at the IN State Fairground on Jan. 7th. I could have you doing a reliable whip finish in 5 minutes. Well, no more than 6 or 7, anyway. I will admit, however, I STILL use the Matarelli tool on midges and other small flies. Just a matter of preference. But maybe it's just as well you live so far away. Just think about it a minute. Having a Worm and a Fish together would definitely generate too many snarky comments. :-P Al -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.comGriffon.jpg
Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
I have nothing against using a whip finisher. We all have different traits, that is why we all have out choice of women. If you have a problem doing it by hand then by all means do it the way it is best for yourself. Because I do it by hand does not mean all have to do it that way. Maybe we can get a tread going on why we whip finish like we do. Tony From: Eric Worm flytyer...@yahoo.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) I am still amazed by people that can whip finish by hand quickly, with a great not at the end. I miss seeing the posts and posting as well... Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 21, 2011 1:15:08 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Eric, I quit using a whip finisher about 25 years ago, Doing a hand whip finish is quicker. When doing commercial tying, every second you save is a bonus. Started out tying off with half hitches then learned how to whip finish by hand. That was over 60 years ago. When I got back into tying again in 1988 I found the whip finisher. I found that I liked using my hand better than the tool so I stayed with it. My first vise was a home made vise, then I went to a Thompson B. Now I own about 20 vises and only use two or three of them. I have a small Dyna King that I use while traveling to our monthly tying sessions. A Norlander for tying Bugger type flies and a larger Dyna King for show tying. The others are just ones that I collected over the years. I am just posting this to see if we can get some life back on the list, I miss the posts. Tony From: Eric Worm flytyer...@yahoo.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Don, I agree with you. * I started out with a cheap chinese clamp jaw vice, graduated to a thompson ultra, and then to a renzetti traveler with the screw type jaws, which has been modified to a cam. Drilled and tapped it myself to lock the rotary shaft as needed, and added tube fly head, accessories such as the hackle holder and hackle gauge, as well as the ever present waste basket below. * Started out with my moms sewing scissors. Have now graduated to 5 pairs of Dr. Slick scissors, and a pair of Anvil finger loop offset scissors. * Started out with a close pin for a hackle plier. Now have several types of hackle pliers lying around. * Started out with an a upholstry needle for a bodkin. Now have a nice one by thompson, doesn't roll around when I need it. * Started out using my hands for a bobbin, and whip finished by hand. Now have 6 or so bobbins, and several whip finishers. Also have a set of hitch tools. * Lord knows how many other tools I have in my bag and on my desk-hair stackers, cauterizer, several dubbing loop tools, blender, wire brush tool, tweezers, etc., etc. Damn, I picked up a bunch of stuff over 30 years LOL Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven. -Steve Grooms From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 20, 2011 8:42:22 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Bob, Let'em learn like I did- no vise, tools, tying supplies, or instruction. Give them some road-kill parts- feathers and furs, and some photos of finished flies with the basic sequences. Might sound like I being facetious, but in actually, they'll always appreciate for the rest of their tying days having the right materials and tools once they get them. I know this won't happen, but it would do them good and teach them how important dexterity is. Beginning tiers today take for granted the incredible array of materials, tools, and training available, and I think the lack of all
Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
I never did figure how to use it either though I have seen it used. Have no intention on learning how to use it now. I give credit to those that know how to use it. Tony From: Jack Lehman jklepo...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:26 PM Subject: Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes Been tying for 35 years and still haven't figured out how to use a Griffin whip finisher. Materelli for smaller flies and presentation finishes, hand whip for larger flies. Jack Austin On 12/21/2011 2:21 PM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote: It's all related to finger size. Long slender fingers = easy by hand. Fat stubby fingers like mine = Tuff to whip finish by hand. Hate those Matarelli tools. Too much slippage. JIMMY D Allan Fish wrote: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) snip Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 Eric, It's a shame you're a 6 hour drive from here. I'll be tying at a fly show at the IN State Fairground on Jan. 7th. I could have you doing a reliable whip finish in 5 minutes. Well, no more than 6 or 7, anyway. I will admit, however, I STILL use the Matarelli tool on midges and other small flies. Just a matter of preference. But maybe it's just as well you live so far away. Just think about it a minute. Having a Worm and a Fish together would definitely generate too many snarky comments. :-P Al -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
Eric, I have heard that so many times or I just can't do a whip finish by hand. I have them doing it by hand in a few minuets. I will have to admit, I am pretty good at teaching it. Now this may sound as a brag but it is not at all. Those that know me can attest to that. Tony From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: WHip Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes span id=misspell-2 class=markWHip/span Finish - was Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes I could never consistently get a good whip finish by hand, so I definately enjoy that crutch :) snip Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 Eric, It's a shame you're a 6 hour drive from here. I'll be tying at a fly show at the IN State Fairground on Jan. 7th. I could have you doing a reliable whip finish in 5 minutes. Well, no more than 6 or 7, anyway. I will admit, however, I STILL use the Matarelli tool on midges and other small flies. Just a matter of preference. But maybe it's just as well you live so far away. Just think about it a minute. Having a Worm and a Fish together would definitely generate too many snarky comments. :-P Al -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Help needed.
Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
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My problem with that is I am not affiliated with FFF or an FFF Club On 12/20/11, J Mck jmck1...@yahoo.com wrote: Robert Check with the Federation of Fly Fishers Education department. Jerry McKaughan, President CADDIS Fly Fishers P.O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org From: Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:14 PM Subject: [VFB] Help needed. Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help needed.
Then you might check with Peak Fy Fishing and you local Game and Fisheries. Our Libaray has five fly tying kits to check out donated by the Arkansas Game and Fish. Jerry McKaughan, President CADDIS Fly Fishers P.O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org From: Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Help needed. My problem with that is I am not affiliated with FFF or an FFF Club On 12/20/11, J Mck jmck1...@yahoo.com wrote: Robert Check with the Federation of Fly Fishers Education department. Jerry McKaughan, President CADDIS Fly Fishers P.O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org From: Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:14 PM Subject: [VFB] Help needed. Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help needed. Fly-tying classes
Bob, Let'em learn like I did- no vise, tools, tying supplies, or instruction. Give them some road-kill parts- feathers and furs, and some photos of finished flies with the basic sequences. Might sound like I being facetious, but in actually, they'll always appreciate for the rest of their tying days having the right materials and tools once they get them. I know this won't happen, but it would do them good and teach them how important dexterity is. Beginning tiers today take for granted the incredible array of materials, tools, and training available, and I think the lack of all of that to start would enhance the appreciation once the good stuff in incorporated. From Thompson A vices and Chinese necks to Renzetti's and Whiting super-saddles- everything has come so far. DonO Will be signing off for another week starting tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Robert Morger rmor...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: [VFB] Help needed. Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing - After they have exhausted all other possibilities. --Winston Churchill Robert Morger Central Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help needed.
When I started my community ed classes at a local high school I got the tool s from Cascade Crest, they have some nice basic tools that have lasted 3 seasons. For the vises I use Regal vises, they are made less than 100 miles from me and the class location. The town I teach in is very big on buying local, carbon footprint watching and all that, also helps that is is higher income for the area. Peggy COn 12/20/2011 4:14 PM, Robert Morger wrote: Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- Peggy Brenner http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Help needed.
Check with Parks and Wildlife educat...@tpwd.state.tx.us Jack Austin On 12/20/2011 3:14 PM, Robert Morger wrote: Hey folks I am thinking about starting up some Beginners Fly Tying Classes with my local Community Education program. Does anyone know where I can rent, borrow or buy cheaply vises and tools for such an endeavor. I was thinking max of 8-10 people per scheduled class. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
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I had someone ask me if I knew anyone who could teach her to tie flies. She lives in Town Creek, Al. Let me ow if you could do this. I will put you in contact with her. Thanks Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] help
Sorry for sending this way... Rodger this is what happens when I send to you direct I have received flies rodger...@argontech.net: 64.202.224.2 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [98.138.82.217] blocked using bl.spamcop.net; Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?98.138.82.217 Giving up on 64.202.224.2. Jerry McKaughan, President CADDIS Fly Fishers P.O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] help
I just received a e-mail about updating some information on my hotmail account, if anyone is a hotmail user did you receive an e-mail and is it real? Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P. O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] help
Don't use hotmail, but be cautious of any emails requiring you to give account information, or having you open attachments. DonO - Original Message - From: J McK To: Fly Swap Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: [VFB] help I just received a e-mail about updating some information on my hotmail account, if anyone is a hotmail user did you receive an e-mail and is it real? Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P. O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org -- The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] help
I just received a e-mail about updating some information on my hotmail account, if anyone is a hotmail user did you receive an e-mail and is it real? Nope. It's Phishing for your information. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] help
I get this on my Yahoo account several times a month. It is received in my Spam File Arkansas Tony --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] help To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 8:39 PM I just received a e-mail about updating some information on my hotmail account, if anyone is a hotmail user did you receive an e-mail and is it real? Nope. It's Phishing for your information. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] help
Gotcha here in Utah Larry Johnson Brian Burgess brian.burge...@btinternet.com 3/23/2010 8:22 AM if anyone on the group has my email address please let me know if this got through as I dont seem to be recieving anything from the list. Birdie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
