[videoblogging] ooking for mpeg4 camera. Pocketsize and awesome.

2005-07-21 Thread kylefasanella





Looking at 4 mpeg camera to get possibly tomorrow. I really only care about video for 
blogging. I need it to be pocketsize and have no problem caring it everyday and 
everywhere. High quality video is ideal. I have no need for digital zoom. At least 640X480 
resolution. And a doc station that can automatically capture my videos be god to. I herd 
jake Lobrick was doing this. 

Does the sd500 perform better than the M1in video picture quality? 

I can wait up to 2 months if its worth the wait for new technology. 



M1
Im looking at http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/m1_qtvr.html cyber shot 
M1
Great reviews on Cnet 
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_Cyber_Shot_DSC_M1/4505-6501_7-31117284-5.html?
tag=top

SD500
Only problem I'm reading is the LCD goes bad on a LOT of them. And I will be carrying 
mine everywhere. Might be ruff up a bit. 


chuck says its terrible in low light and decided with the canon sd500
http://blogumentary.typepad.com/chuck/2005/03/sony_cybershot_.html


What do you think and recommend. I have up to a grand to spend on it. 


Kyle Fasanella






  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread kylefasanella




I def consider my blogs art. In a very true form at that !

http://vilekylefasanella.blogspot.com/

you have to watch them to understand check out before I die again 

kyle fasanella



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whether I stay there or not, definitely begin each vlog entry with art at 
 heart.
 
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 - Original Message - 
 From: pomoartchick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:38 PM
 Subject: [videoblogging] Vlogs As Art
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  I am interested in the unique qualities of vlogs that set them apart
  from or add to the dialogue of video. Do you see a difference between
  vlogs and other video productions? How would you describe those
  differences? Is it in the vlogs themselves, the mode of
  production/distribution, or is it a bit of both? If a televison show
  is offered exclusively online, is it a vlog?
 
  I'm curious as to how many here view their vlogs as art. Do you
  consider what you do art? would you be interested in showing your
  vlogs in an art context?
 
  I'm not much for tech talk but I do love to talk about the theoretical
  implications of vlogging. Any thoughts?
 
  Anne
  http://8bitme.blogspot.com
  http://nopractice.blogspot.com
 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Vlogger += 1, my introduction

2005-07-21 Thread Chris Nolan.ca




Hey there,

 I thought I'd post a short little introduction. I am Chris
Nolan.ca, and my site is http://ChrisNolan.ca/ - easy eh? 

 I live in Toronto, with my wife Jen (http://mewren.com/ - sometimes
blogger too). Since my website is home grown (I do all the coding
myself) it has taken me a little while to get around to updating the
system to handle enclosures but yesterday I finally did (and learnt
this morning that I messed up because I allowed multiple enclosures
per item, whoops). I'm a geek at heart, with interests in movies,
technology, comicsbooks - you know the usual geekdom properties.
 
 My first day and I've managed to post 3 new videos - I think I'm
hooked! It is liberating to know that there is an audience out there! 

 My latest, entitled A Great Fire May Follow a Tiny Spark (
http://chrisnolan.ca/archive/ID/515 ) is a play on the growth of the
vlogosphere taken from the begining of 2005 to the end. Check it out
if you get a moment, and don't be shy about leaving comments.

 If you just want to add my vlog only feed, using
http://chrisnolan.ca/feed/category/vlog

 I hope this post hasn't been too much self promotion? I look
forward to learning from all of you and being able to contribute to
the group as well.

Chris Nolan.ca





  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: itunes censorship?

2005-07-21 Thread kelly belly




But ... I already do this! Did it from the first day I started using 
Feedburner.

Sidenote: In Mefeedia only my original (technically dead) feed is 
showing my recent videos; the Feedburner feed is stuck on one from 
April, though the feed is alive and well and working fine elsewhere. 
Don't know what that's all about.

/Kelly
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On Jul 19, 2005, at 11:55 AM, andrew michael baron wrote:
 On Jul 19, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Rick Klau wrote:


 You've always had the option of using .htaccess to redirect your feed
 (so you can publicize a feed at your domain and just redirect those
 requests to us) - details are here:
 http://forums.feedburner.com/viewtopic.php?t=17 . That's free (since
 it doesn't require any effort on our part, just a line of code on
 yours).



 This is great news! I suggest ALL of these videobloggers take the
 time to do this

 http://feeds.feedburner.com/kellybelly



  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread duncan speakman




oh.. an interesting topic.. for me the quality that sets vlogs
apart is the 'single viewer' idea.. i try to approach mine like those
mini-polaroid pictures (the credit card size ones).. i like the sense
of intimacy that a 320x240 image brings (or other aspect rations.. 
quicktime lets me make videos in a portrait aspect ration and not
leave any dead space my videos are always made with the intention of
only being seen by one person at a time.

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[videoblogging] Re: Permission and releases?

2005-07-21 Thread Zadi




Usually for expos and events of that nature it's okay to film the
public if it's for a news story (press). There is always press present
and the public generally understands that their face may show up
somewhere. You can always check with each individual establishment for
their rules.

When I've filmed in public places, such as coffee shops/bars/offices -
usually I put up a sign on the doorway (with manager's permission)
that once they pass this doorway they will be filmed. I record the
sign that I've put up on video with a date stamp.

It's tricky and a bit of a gamble when filming on the street.
Generally, you should get a permit from your local film and television
office to film at the actual location. Sometimes you need permits to
film certain buildings, architecture, etc - you'd be surprised. 

Generally, for us videobloggers, it hasn't been an issue because
generally there is no profit being made. Also, most indie
documentarians chance it at times, especially if it's limited release
or if filming overseas.

But what you're talking about is for a company. If it's a corporation
or a feature film, you have to make sure you're cleared on everything.
There's usually more danger when there is a possibility of large
profit being made and someone's image being attached to an idea, or
product, etc.

With my personal vlogs I've still asked for on-camera releases, which
are quick and painless - but not the most legally clearing. I'm not
making any money off of it but if I ever decided to put my vlogs on a
DVD and sell it, I would have to track all those people down and ask
permission to use their image. So, it's good to get a signed release
if you think there is a possiblity in the future of making money off
of your films/videos. It never hurts to carry a folder with extra
releases just in case.

Always tricky.

Z.
http://smashface.com/vlog




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 So while pitching videoblogging to a company today, the question came
 up of, what sort of permission or release form do we need people to
 sign if they appear in video we are publishing on the internet?
 
 I know Steve Garfield shot footage at Macworld Expo. I assume it's ok
 to bring a video camera to such an event. Did the people Steve
 interviewed need to give permission to be recorded? Verbal? Written?
 What? For most people here it may not be a concern, but companies are
 always afraid of being sued for not dotting the i's and crossing the
 t's in the stuff they publish.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Dvorak is an idiot (bashes Creative Commons)

2005-07-21 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)




Hi everyone:
At 03:29 PM 7/19/2005, you wrote:
There are hundreds of blog
flamewars every day, but this is about 
Creative Commons, so it hits kinda close to home for this
community.
I don't know why ZD lets John C. Dvorak keep writing. I so enjoyed
his 
work in the 90s as I was growing up learning computers, but he's such a

shadow of his former self. It's incredibly sad. Dvorak has
written an 
article titled Creative Commons
Humbug:
[snip...]
How much do you wanna bet he's PAID to bash CC?
Afterall, Ziff-Davis *is* a BIG COMMERCIAL PUBLISHER ya know.
In other wordsCONSIDER THE SOURCE. 
Cheers for now :)
Pat Cook
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Re: [videoblogging] New Member Intro

2005-07-21 Thread Deirdre Straughan




On 7/21/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 great intro.
 in my book, RSS is the magic bullet...it the thing we've been looking for.
 a free and powerful way to distribute video worldwide.

Let's make sure the newbies don't get confused: RSS does not solve the
big problem of bandwidth. What it does is syndicate your content
such that lots of feedreaders (web-based or standalone) can
subscribe to it and show your loyal readers the latest from you as
soon as you publish it. So it's a great way to increase and maintain
your audience. The more that happens, however, the more you'll have to
deal with the question of how to afford the bandwidth.


 im not sure if Flash files show up in RSS feeds...il let ithers chime in here.

They do, you just have to code them right. Feel free to copy my feed
at http://www.straughan.com/feeds/rss.xml for examples; several people
on this list were instrumental in helping me get this to work.

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[videoblogging] amsterdam

2005-07-21 Thread severn




Amsterdam!!!

Don't remember very much but thats why I like it!

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coughing  waving from amsterdam


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http://blakkbyrd.blogspot.com/
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[videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread Gena




They can be. Currently mine are more documenting what I see because I
am still learning how to do this. But I have some ideas down the road
that are much more in the art catagory. Come to think of it I don't
like catagories - I like the freedom to do what I want.

Years ago i was involved in public access tv and when I tried to step
over the line, well, you know...

What is different about vblogging is that you don't have a bunch of
input from other people into what it is that you want(or should)do. It
is much more your vision. This is not to diss other ways of
producing video. But I think video blogging allows for a more
intensive contact with the viewer.

I am surprised more artists are not doing this - I think it is because
they don't know or understand the accessibility of medium just yet. 

Oh well, each one - teach one

Gena
http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, pomoartchick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am interested in the unique qualities of vlogs that set them apart
 from or add to the dialogue of video. Do you see a difference
between
 vlogs and other video productions? How would you describe those
 differences? Is it in the vlogs themselves, the mode of
 production/distribution, or is it a bit of both? If a televison show
 is offered exclusively online, is it a vlog?
 
 I'm curious as to how many here view their vlogs as art. Do you
 consider what you do art? would you be interested in showing your
 vlogs in an art context?
 
 I'm not much for tech talk but I do love to talk about the
theoretical
 implications of vlogging. Any thoughts?
 
 Anne
 http://8bitme.blogspot.com
 http://nopractice.blogspot.com





  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Vlogger += 1, my introduction

2005-07-21 Thread David Meade




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris Nolan.ca
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought I'd post a short little introduction. I am Chris
 Nolan.ca, and my site is http://ChrisNolan.ca/ - easy eh? 
 ...{snip}...
 Since my website is home grown (I do all the coding
 myself) it has taken me a little while to get around to updating the
 system to handle enclosures but yesterday I finally did

Welcome Chris! Nice site you have there! My stuff is largely custom
built too so I can relate. 

 I hope this post hasn't been too much self promotion? I look
 forward to learning from all of you and being able to contribute to
 the group as well.

Nah, we like hearing about the new vloggers out there. :-)

I really liked the TFC posts, that's exciting. I havent had time to
read them fully yet, but I'll be catching up on them soon. (Is the
final product there?) Oh, and, your glowing eyes post is freaky/cool!
(yeah you should post the lightsaber ones :-))

Anyway - nice site / welcome.

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[videoblogging] Re: Permission and releases?

2005-07-21 Thread Zadi




You can google talent release form and a slew of examples will show
up. All of them are pretty similar and you can tailor it for what you
need.

As far as on-camera releases, I just ask them if I can tape them for
whatever it is I'm working on and hopefully they say yes with their
name with any additional contact info. I also give them a card with my
contact info. If they say no I move on.

I haven't really worried about signed releases for my vlog so far.
It's usually for more structured/professional projects or times where
I know there may be a chance that I can use the footage later on for
something else I may work on.

That fourdocs site is pretty cool.

Z.
http://smashface.com/vlog


 
 Would you mind sharing examples of the text you have signed and what
 you have people read? That would be extremely helpful, thanks.
 
 I'd also suggest everyone have a look at the Be Legal section of
 http://www.channel4.com/fourdocs/ (thanks to whoever it was the
 pointed out this project to the group the other day). It's very good,
 at least as regards UK law (and I suspect the points it makes are at
 least minimums for every other country).
 
 
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[videoblogging] INCIDENTS IN LONDON BREAKING

2005-07-21 Thread civanyi




NY TIMES VIDEO FEED AND http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ RADIO FIVE/LLIVE





  




  
  
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[videoblogging] INCIDENTS IN LONDON BREAKING

2005-07-21 Thread civanyi




NY TIMES VIDEO FEED AND http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ RADIO FIVE/LLIVE





  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: New Member Intro

2005-07-21 Thread Peter Paddon




Hey Deirdré, thanks for the input

 Let's make sure the newbies don't get confused: RSS does not solve 
the
 big problem of bandwidth.

I'm familiar with RSS from my research into podcasting audio... my 
take is that bandwidth can be at least mitigated if everyone 
exercises common sense regarding compression - but common sense 
isn't that common...

 What it does is syndicate your content
 such that lots of feedreaders (web-based or standalone) can
 subscribe to it and show your loyal readers the latest from you 
as
 soon as you publish it. 

That is the part that interests me.

 So it's a great way to increase and maintain
 your audience. The more that happens, however, the more you'll 
have to
 deal with the question of how to afford the bandwidth.

I have a decent bandwidth allowance on my server, so hopefully my 
obscure little experiments won't eat into it too much.

 
  im not sure if Flash files show up in RSS feeds...il let ithers 
chime in here.
 
 They do, you just have to code them right. Feel free to copy my 
feed
 at http://www.straughan.com/feeds/rss.xml for examples; several 
people
 on this list were instrumental in helping me get this to work.

I was planning on using WMVs - the Flash is just how I display video 
at the moment - but it is useful to know that Flash can be used with 
RSS too. Thanks!

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[videoblogging] CBS Blog not a VLog yet, still not using Enclosures

2005-07-21 Thread Christopher Bergeron




http://www.cbsnews.com/feeds/rss/video.rss

Although it's a great feed and usefull it's not using enclosures. 
Kinda sux a bit, but a good first step for a major news company.

I tossed it into FireANT to get the new news about London today but no
enclosures...

ALthough their PodCasting so enclosures aren't too foreign to their
technical team.

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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen




(Video)blogs are a medium and as such they are no more art than tv, radio, 
books or any other medium. It's a blank canvas (to stay in the art 
metaphor), you can use it both for art and for non-art. Just as a sketch 
book can be used to create Picasso as well as a tax return.

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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread Markus Sandy




oh, I agreee
but have you ever noticed how there is nowhere near the activity on the 
wikipedia canvas page as there is on the vlog page?


Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:

(Video)blogs are a medium and as such they are no more art than tv, radio, 
books or any other medium. It's a blank canvas (to stay in the art 
metaphor), you can use it both for art and for non-art. Just as a sketch 
book can be used to create Picasso as well as a tax return.

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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread Cadejo Andante




Hello there,

I think your questions are a very interesting topic to
discuss.Please, allow me to introduce my vlog and
perhaps you can give me some comments/advice to
improve it.

Thanks for your time

Harold

--- pomoartchick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I am interested in the unique qualities of vlogs
 that set them apart
 from or add to the dialogue of video. Do you see a
 difference between
 vlogs and other video productions? How would you
 describe those
 differences? Is it in the vlogs themselves, the mode
 of
 production/distribution, or is it a bit of both? If
 a televison show
 is offered exclusively online, is it a vlog?
 
 I'm curious as to how many here view their vlogs as
 art. Do you
 consider what you do art? would you be interested in
 showing your
 vlogs in an art context?
 
 I'm not much for tech talk but I do love to talk
 about the theoretical
 implications of vlogging. Any thoughts?
 
 Anne
 http://8bitme.blogspot.com
 http://nopractice.blogspot.com
 
 
 



  

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Re: [videoblogging] FCP help

2005-07-21 Thread ryanne hodson




yes
FCP hates mpeg4
dv is native to it so anything else is really choppy and must be
rendered if you want to see it.
i've managed to find settings to match certain mpeg 4 cameras for the
timeline sequence
still sometimes doesnt want to play correctly until you add a filter and render.

so yeah your best bet, like adrian said, make dv clips and import.

-ryanne

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Re: [videoblogging] FCP help

2005-07-21 Thread Christopher Ivanyi




You could import the MP3 into QT and export them as a WAV or AIF 48khz
-- no compression -- should be okay to import them into FCPro at that
point.

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[videoblogging] Re: New Member Intro

2005-07-21 Thread Chris Nolan.ca




  What it does is syndicate your content
  such that lots of feedreaders (web-based or standalone) can
  subscribe to it and show your loyal readers the latest from you 
 as
  soon as you publish it. 
 
 That is the part that interests me.
 

I haven't come across the usage of 'pings' in any of the vlog
directories or aggregators yet. Is that something that is planning on
being added and just not done yet, or has there been a conscious
decision not to go that route?

For those not familar, a ping is basically a webserver that allows
your blog software to notify remote systems that you have new content
- helps speed up the distribution of the content and also allows them
to poll you less frequenty if you're not a super regular poster. More
information at http://newhome.weblogs.com/directory/11 

Imagine FireANT instead of @ 3:30 downloading you stuff for you, but
downloading it within minutes of it being published?

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[videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread Chris Nolan.ca




 Like Baron, I see that we are approaching a tipping point, and Fast.
 Before Christmas, we will have video iPods, and already we have the
 PSP. In less than two months we will have PSP here in Norway
 (Norwegian version, not just some import from Japan via UK).
 Videoblogging will be all over the place, and these next 6 months will
 be Crucial.

How much as the cellphone content been looked @? 3G? I noticed
Rocketboom is on the bandwagon, but are others? In conversation last
month with the cellphone producer for comedy central, he says that
only 30,000 subscribers exist in the US so far (those are cellphone
video subscribes, not subscribes to comedy central) - but overseas it
is much, much higher. Are there many vloggers in areas that cellphone
video is popular that can share their thoughts on that growth as well?

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[videoblogging] Summarizing what's happening in the Vlogging sphere

2005-07-21 Thread chrbaudry




What are the 3 leading articles in magazines or online newspapers that 
give the best overview of what's happening in the Vlogging sphere and 
where it is going? I read the Wired 2:0 article but it was a while 
ago, I suppose there is new stuff.

Same thing with links, what would be the 3 links/ blogs / sites to go 
to get an updated and global perspective of what's happening?

I like this forum a lot but there is so much stuff that it takes a lot 
of time to read all, and then I am looking for a synthesis that would 
always be up to date.

Did Jupiter write something on Vlogging?

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[videoblogging] Re: verdi remix.

2005-07-21 Thread johngaltsjournal




Im that someone!!

My favorite part of tagging in mefeedia is accidently coming up with a new tag it's like the 
early days of Flickr when there were just a couple of us tagging things like crazy...Aaah, the 
good old days; by good old days I mean about a year and a half ago.

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  let's tag all these electrikverdi
 
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[videoblogging] Videoblogging Calendar

2005-07-21 Thread Chris Ritke




Hi Jan - I got your comment at meetthevloggers.blogspot.com - and I 
posted the July 31st event to the videoblogging calendar. Thanks for 
reminding me.

As for how to tackle the calendar problem - I could build something into 
49Media which would be a list of events sorted by date etc, with a login 
for editing/deleting and all that. I don't know if people would be too 
happy with having the calendar in 49Media - but that's the only place 
where I can make something like this happen.

So let me know what you think and how we'd go about deciding if this is 
what the group wants to do - it'd probably take me a day or two to put 
up - and I wouldn't have a problem with tweaking it later to make sure 
it meets the needs of the group...

-Chris

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[videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread pettisb




Ever read your own post and just feel like a dork? I'm sorry for my
art snob outburst and I'll try and keep it in check.

In my heart, I actually believe that the more creativity there is in
the world, the better. In truth, it doesn't matter if I think you're
an artist or not. Go forth and let creativity burst from your vlogs.

-Bre


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, pettisb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you've got a vlog is art, I want to see it. I've seen very few
 video art vlog posts. Video art is probably my favorite art form. 
 Send me your links and if I like it, I'll send you the link love from
 imakethings
 
 On the other side of that, I get a little ruffled when people take the
 thing they are doing and call it art. Last year at an entrepreneur
 workshop, I had a guy expound on the parallels between being an artist
 and entrepreneur. While he may have felt a sense of creativity
 starting businesses, I really don't think starting a business makes
 you an artist.
 
 I don't think starting a blog or vlog makes you an artist either. 
 That being said, there are lots of people using their vlogs as a
 platform for their art, video and otherwise and there are lots of
 artists making vlogs. I sometimes make video art and post it on my
 blog, but mostly I just like interviewing people who make things,
 which is not an art form.
 
 I suppose that editing and creating vlogs could be considered an art
 form by some, but for me, I have to agree with Andreas, it's the
 content and execution of the vlog that holds the potential for artistry.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread Stephanie Bryant




Bre,

I consider my vlog art in the performance art sense.

I just don't consider it to be very *good* art.

;)

--Stephanie

On 7/21/05, pettisb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ever read your own post and just feel like a dork? I'm sorry for my
 art snob outburst and I'll try and keep it in check.
 
 In my heart, I actually believe that the more creativity there is in
 the world, the better. In truth, it doesn't matter if I think you're
 an artist or not. Go forth and let creativity burst from your vlogs.
 
 -Bre
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, pettisb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you've got a vlog is art, I want to see it. I've seen very few
  video art vlog posts. Video art is probably my favorite art form.
  Send me your links and if I like it, I'll send you the link love from
  imakethings
 
  On the other side of that, I get a little ruffled when people take the
  thing they are doing and call it art. Last year at an entrepreneur
  workshop, I had a guy expound on the parallels between being an artist
  and entrepreneur. While he may have felt a sense of creativity
  starting businesses, I really don't think starting a business makes
  you an artist.
 
  I don't think starting a blog or vlog makes you an artist either.
  That being said, there are lots of people using their vlogs as a
  platform for their art, video and otherwise and there are lots of
  artists making vlogs. I sometimes make video art and post it on my
  blog, but mostly I just like interviewing people who make things,
  which is not an art form.
 
  I suppose that editing and creating vlogs could be considered an art
  form by some, but for me, I have to agree with Andreas, it's the
  content and execution of the vlog that holds the potential for artistry.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread Michael Verdi




Wow Bre, I have to totally disagree with you. I have a much 
different view art and artist. To me it's much more about a way of 
thinking. In my mind an artist is someone who immerses themselves in 
something that they are passionate about and then expresses their 
thoughts, feelings, conclusions, ideas, etc. in some way. To me this 
can take the form of a painting, a sculpture, a line of code, a 
formula, a film, a company, a slam dunk, and even a video of 
something mundane posted to their blog.

What I hear you say is that there is something special about being an 
artist and not everyone can do it. I disagree. It's something to be 
an artist but not something special. Not any more special than to be 
a garbageman. There's nothing I'd rather do than be an artist but I 
certainly don't think it makes me different or special.

So now, as I'm writing this I see your response to your own email.
 Ever read your own post and just feel like a dork? I'm sorry for my
 art snob outburst and I'll try and keep it in check.

So to answer your question, ever feel like a dork? All the time! 
I can't believe some of things that just fly out of my mouth 
sometimes. Anyway, I'm still sending this because I do stand behind 
the ideas expressed above.

Peace,
Verdi


On Jul 21, 2005, at 12:49 PM, pettisb wrote:

 If you've got a vlog is art, I want to see it. I've seen very few
 video art vlog posts. Video art is probably my favorite art form.
 Send me your links and if I like it, I'll send you the link love from
 imakethings

 On the other side of that, I get a little ruffled when people take the
 thing they are doing and call it art. Last year at an entrepreneur
 workshop, I had a guy expound on the parallels between being an artist
 and entrepreneur. While he may have felt a sense of creativity
 starting businesses, I really don't think starting a business makes
 you an artist.

 I don't think starting a blog or vlog makes you an artist either.
 That being said, there are lots of people using their vlogs as a
 platform for their art, video and otherwise and there are lots of
 artists making vlogs. I sometimes make video art and post it on my
 blog, but mostly I just like interviewing people who make things,
 which is not an art form.

 I suppose that editing and creating vlogs could be considered an art
 form by some, but for me, I have to agree with Andreas, it's the
 content and execution of the vlog that holds the potential for 
 artistry.

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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread duncan speakman




 (Video)blogs are a medium and as such they are no more art than tv, radio, 
 books or any other medium. 

this may be true... but the medium of videoblogs influences the work
that i create, i would not make the same kind of pieces for television
or video installation, just as i would not create the same picture
using oils as i would using watercolours,
it is a blank canvas, but is a very specific kind of canvas, 
and as usual (for me!) i would refer it all to McLuhan's most
misunderstood quote 'the medium is the message'

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[videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread ro9core




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Its a VERY big and growing market with consumers that don't blog or 
 have websites necessarily.

Where do these people post their video phone videos? I want to see
them. But if they're just watching videos, where do they find sites
to watch?

Can we just start re-encoding our videos into 3gp and then get the
people with videophones to watch them?

That would be neat, but I know that, I for one, venturing little into
the outside world, would usually watch the videos on my main computer.

When the price of video phones comes down and I can watch people on
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread andrew michael baron





(1) Open video in Quicktime.

(2) Export to 3gp

(3) upload file to server

(4) Tell people where the file is.

See http://www.rboom.com for example.




On Jul 21, 2005, at 3:18 PM, ro9core wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Its a VERY big and growing market with consumers that don't blog or
 have websites necessarily.


 Where do these people post their video phone videos? I want to see
 them. But if they're just watching videos, where do they find sites
 to watch?

 Can we just start re-encoding our videos into 3gp and then get the
 people with videophones to watch them?

 That would be neat, but I know that, I for one, venturing little into
 the outside world, would usually watch the videos on my main computer.

 When the price of video phones comes down and I can watch people on
 it, that will be COOL.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread Charles HOPE




Jay dedman wrote:

 unless theres someting i dont know...the video cellphjones in the US
 are clunky and expensive.


The phones are cheap and getting cheaper. Mine (which shoots video) cost 
only $130 and that was a year ago.


 i just dont see it on the web.


http://www.textamerica.com/moblogs.aspx?_media=M

It's better for shooting video than playback. I have no interest besides 
novelty in watching Daily Show clips on my phone. Even the 3gp videos it 
shoots look better on a desktop machine; my phone screen has high 
persistence. And while the quality of its video is terrible, it's 
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[videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread johngaltsjournal




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, pettisb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Often! Especially when I one of those late night Drink and Post-a-thons. That's the worst.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread Halcyon Lujah




This is a very interesting idea.

I have been frustrated by the web sized video of vlogging. But I like
this thinking of it as something different than a show. Something more
intimate.

Would your vlog have different content if you made a bigger size? One
that a viewer would watch on a TV in their living room?

-Halcyon

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 oh.. an interesting topic.. for me the quality that sets vlogs
 apart is the 'single viewer' idea.. i try to approach mine like those
 mini-polaroid pictures (the credit card size ones).. i like the sense
 of intimacy that a 320x240 image brings (or other aspect rations.. 
 quicktime lets me make videos in a portrait aspect ration and not
 leave any dead space my videos are always made with the intention of
 only being seen by one person at a time.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread Pete Prodoehl




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r
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 anyone know how long takes to transfer 3 minutes of 3gp via bluetooth?

3 minutes equals how many megs?

I transferred a recent Rocketboom to my phone via bluetooth and it
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread robert a/k/a r




thanks, dunno how many megs. made simplifying assumption re 3gp using 
average (is 3gp different bit rates?).

am asking question to understand feasibility of an idea lurking in the 
dark recesses of my mind.

so you're guessing the transfer time equals the runtime?




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[videoblogging] Telephone Files [WAS -Vloggercon II]

2005-07-21 Thread andrew michael baron
3gp have setting to tweak to optimize for your particular desire.

I came up with these settings for a good (good
quality I mean) 3GP file, determined by people’s comments when I was
doing compression tests:

video:
+mpeg-4
+approx 125 kb/sec
+8 fps

Audio:
AMR-NB (Speech)
12.2 kbs
mono
5 frames per sample
encoding quality: best


On Jul 21, 2005, at 4:08 PM, robert a/k/a r wrote:

 thanks, dunno how many megs. made simplifying assumption re 3gp using
 average (is 3gp different bit rates?).

 am asking question to understand feasibility of an idea lurking in the
 dark recesses of my mind.

 so you're guessing the transfer time equals the runtime?




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 anyone know how long takes to transfer 3 minutes of 3gp via  
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[videoblogging] Cheryl, borg queen

2005-07-21 Thread wazman_au




Yeah, so I got an e-mail from the Big C inviting me to join her 
own little vlogging group. It went straight to the recycle bin.

For mine, I couldn't buy that We are the people, let's start a 
revolution... I am woman, hear me roar stuff. It all felt more like 
an attempt to assimilate us to one person's end.

I'm one of those who's posted her offlist a few times; I think once 
in the early days I said she might want to check out my vlog, 
another time I tried to give some gentle pointers on getting her 
technical/vlogging questions answered, such as searching the 
message archive.

In summary I found her presence annoying, despite trying to 
convince myself to be charitable.

Anyway, predicted responses from Cheryl:
Would you say that to my face, or are you one of those geeks 
who hides behind e-mail etc. etc.
You posted me offlist a while back and here's what you said ... 
you can the media but you still want publicity etc. etc. (actually 
I'm PART of the mainstream media so you won't hear me 
canning them too much).
I am celebrity borg woman, HEAR ME ROR! etc etc.

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Re: [videoblogging] Cheryl, borg queen

2005-07-21 Thread Jay dedman




 Yeah, so I got an e-mail from the Big C inviting me to join her
 own little vlogging group. It went straight to the recycle bin.
 
 For mine, I couldn't buy that We are the people, let's start a
 revolution... I am woman, hear me roar stuff. It all felt more like
 an attempt to assimilate us to one person's end.
 
 I'm one of those who's posted her offlist a few times; I think once
 in the early days I said she might want to check out my vlog,
 another time I tried to give some gentle pointers on getting her
 technical/vlogging questions answered, such as searching the
 message archive.
 
 In summary I found her presence annoying, despite trying to
 convince myself to be charitable.

lets avoid speaking about Cheryl on this list since she is no longer
here to answer for herself.
i think many of us spoke to her offline to help educate her...but
unfortunately, she did seem happy here.
glad she formed her own group.
let us spawn.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread Michael Sullivan



not to mention that anything extra done on a cell phone costs more money, right?
i just use mine to talk and dont see cell phones getting 20gb drives anytime soon... 

cell phone biz is mostly driven on hype 
i'd much rather see the little pocket cameras do awesome mp4 compression and wireless internet.
i'd rather the camera be the core of the device, not a cell phone. 
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 network for people to watch - on the subway, waiting for a bus whatever.It really opened my eyes.Heck, they even pay you for existing content (not much, but still it's non-exclusive license), and
 are even putting development money towards series.Recently I also read about a tv show in Singapore which was going to launch on cell phones.The first 30 minutes ( split up into 10 segments) was going
 to premiere on the phones and then move to teevee.im in the US and can only speak for my expeirnce here in NYC.has anyone ever SEEN someone watch video on their cellphone?i see ads on the subway for some new verizon network on cellphones.
to me, it smells of HYPE.like Nokia's LifeBLOG or ATT's mMode.down the toilet.the phones that take video...is it easy to email it to a blog without a hack?im glad of any technology that helps us spread each others video.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread andrew michael baron


The main problem now with phone distribution in the US is that there is no content.Videobloggers have the right format for creating content. 1-3 minute, 1mb shows, not 30min 30meg shows.Sure, if you only care about a US audience, and you would rather drive on a road instead of blaze the trail yourself, sit back and wait for awhile and maybe you can jump on board later.I alsways loved Judo Dog for Virgin Mobile, content made specifically for the tele:http://dogjudo.co.uk/On Jul 21, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: not to mention that anything extra done on a cell phone costs more money, right? i just use mine to talk and dont see cell phones getting 20gb drives anytime soon...   cell phone biz is mostly driven on hype  i'd much rather see the little pocket cameras do awesome mp4 compression and wireless internet. i'd rather the camera be the core of the device, not a cell phone.   On 7/21/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm not talking about video phone in the sense of using it to record video.  I mean to watch video on it.  Comedy Central for example publishes 3-6 new videos a week on their "channel" on the sprint  network for people to watch - on the subway, waiting for a bus whatever.  It really opened my eyes.  Heck, they even pay you for existing content (not much, but still it's non-exclusive license), and  are even putting development money towards series.  Recently I also read about a tv show in Singapore which was going to launch on cell phones.  The first 30 minutes ( split up into 10 segments) was going  to premiere on the phones and then move to teevee.im in the US and can only speak for my expeirnce here in NYC.has anyone ever SEEN someone watch video on their cellphone?i see ads on the subway for some new verizon network on cellphones. to me, it smells of HYPE.like Nokia's LifeBLOG or ATT's mMode.down the toilet.the phones that take video...is it easy to email it to a blog without a hack?im glad of any technology that helps us spread each others video. i just want some grounded evidence that its feasible.jay--URL: http://www.momentshowing.netAdventures in VideobloggingYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -http://vlogdir.com  -is- The Videoblog Directoryhttp://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread Jay dedman




 cell phone biz is mostly driven on hype 
 i'd much rather see the little pocket cameras do awesome mp4 compression
 and wireless internet.
 i'd rather the camera be the core of the device, not a cell phone. 


agreed.
cell phone companies want so much control that innovation is slow and
retarded. (maybe just US)
i saw a new Kodak camera (prototype) that took photos/video and was wi-fi.
when i told the engineer i could email videos directly to my blog, he
said wow.
they plan to let you sedn photos directly to ophoto(a kodak company)
so you can order prints online.

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[videoblogging] PSP

2005-07-21 Thread Clark ov Saturn




An anecdote:
There's this huge PSP billboard in New York on Houston and Lafayette
(I think), that is basically a giant model of a PSP. I saw it the
other day and it has this huge screen and was showing a video on it.
But the video was all messed up, the frames, scan rate, etc. I guess
they could be being arty but i think it was a glitch. 

hopefully they'll find a way to mix the video in with the games, so
that you can fire some sweet missiles at the dude with the guitar or
jump chuck over rocks and get him some mushrooms ;)

otherwise, i'd say with the video ipod and itunes kicking, the psp,
and stuff like SprintTV, BuzzTV, etc. yep, it's just starting to
sprinkle. next year (or maybe 2) by this time i predict a hard rain's
gonna fall. 

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Re: [videoblogging] Meeting in San Francisco

2005-07-21 Thread Chris Baudry



Are both event confirmed and is there an agenda for the meeting at the Apple store?

Chris
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Re: [videoblogging] The iTunes Podcast Directory

2005-07-21 Thread Richard




Stephanie,

(The rookie continues)

... everything is set up, as in I went to feedburner and

1) Opened Smart Cast
2) Selected any kind of audio or video recording from the create
podcast enclosures from links to drop down
3) checked included iTunes Podcasting Elements
4) Filled stuff out and, in the description including videoblog and vlog

?

... just trying to make sure my ducks are in a row before submitting ... Richard

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 before you submit it, or it'll definitely be delayed (and you can't
 re-submit!)
 
 --Stephanie
 
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  Other rookie questions about i-tunes ...
 
  I downloaded i-tunes ... to submit my vlog, do I go to submit a podcast?
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As TV

2005-07-21 Thread Michael Sullivan



i have very little interest at this point in watching vlogs on a television, regularly.

if a vlog reaches a persons TV, yeah its still a vlog.
if the vlog is scratched (blog post/media permalinks, RSS and
commenting) and instead their is just a video feed (RSS and Video
stored on server), then no, thats not a vlog. 
both of these can make it to a TV for viewing, but one is not a vlog... their needs to be a blog+rss to be a vlog ;-) 
i think a blog must provide permalinks, which can be permalinks of
posts where media is referenced, or permalinks of the media itself,
with metadata and description etc... 

a videoblog is the site which houses the media and an RSS feed (feed can be provided by 3rd party like feedburner).
a videoblog doesnt necessarily need to have enclosures (my opinion),
but if it does, i tend to refer to that as a videoblog's vodcast.

the video itself can be anything... it can be a personal video diary or a zany show like http://thisorthat-video.blogspot.com/

the medium that we use is obviously not restricted to video...
audioblogs/podcasts and photoblogs and text blogs all can
use the same technologies. 

I also like to not forget about the logical approach of rich media blogging... where one blog contains mixed media. 

a term to descibe generalized multimedia in blogs has barely been
discussed... but it is basically mediacasting or mediablogging. 
Clint was called a a podcast session that he captured on video as a hybridcast... 

TV doesnt change anything. TV set-top boxes will be able to grab
internet media using a variety of methods and technologies.
videoblogs are one source.

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thanks to everyone for your responses so far on the topic of vlogs asart. some interesting thoughts on the matter are being raised.vlogging as art is a subject i have been hashing around for a while onmy blog and in discussions with video artists.
a good point was raised about what happens when the vlog post isviewed in a different context, ie: a show at an art gallery. does thevideo need to be seen in the context for which it was made in orderfor it to maintain it's vloginess? i think, perhaps, it does.
i,too, enjoy the intimate size of the viewing window and theone-to-one feeling vlogs inspire. while many people may be viewing thesame vlogs as i am, i am able to have a direct, one-to-onerelationship with the video maker. i am able to respond to the video
with a video of my own and link to the original piece. i am part of adialogue. i retain my individuality in a way that a televisionaudience does not.i wonder, as thestructure of video on the internet continues to
expand, if the tv model will become more prevelant and makers willscrap the blog model and use feedreaders and directories as a solemeans of distributing their video. is it still a vlog if there is nolink to a home? will the nature of vlogging change from
intercommunication to spectatorship? when broadcasting networks maketheir own online video shows, will they be vlogs or will they be tv onthe internet and does it matter?anne
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Re: [videoblogging] A Proposition

2005-07-21 Thread Richard




Jamie,

First of all, I'm sort of bumbed out that, for some reason, this video
of yours and the one before did not show up in fireANT even though I'm
subscribed to your feed. I even went specifically to your feed in the
channels and clicked refresh, but it didn't bring up anything. I
really like your videos, so that bumbed me out, in that I've missed
some because of this. You might want to check with the fireANT guys.

Second of all, most of my videos are sort of about my life 

http://www.richardshow.com

... I would be honored if you created an interpretation of anything
... knock yourself out, but be sure and let me know, so I can enjoy it
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[videoblogging] Re: Vlogs As TV

2005-07-21 Thread ro9core




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, pomoartchick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 thanks to everyone for your responses so far on the topic of vlogs as
 art. some interesting thoughts on the matter are being raised.
 vlogging as art is a subject i have been hashing around for a while on
 my blog and in discussions with video artists.
 
 a good point was raised about what happens when the vlog post is
 viewed in a different context, ie: a show at an art gallery. does the
 video need to be seen in the context for which it was made in order
 for it to maintain it's vloginess? i think, perhaps, it does.
 
 i,too, enjoy the intimate size of the viewing window and the
 one-to-one feeling vlogs inspire. while many people may be viewing the
 same vlogs as i am, i am able to have a direct, one-to-one
 relationship with the video maker. i am able to respond to the video
 with a video of my own and link to the original piece. i am part of a
 dialogue. i retain my individuality in a way that a television
 audience does not.
 
 i wonder, as the structure of video on the internet continues to
 expand, if the tv model will become more prevelant and makers will
 scrap the blog model and use feedreaders and directories as a sole
 means of distributing their video. is it still a vlog if there is no
 link to a home? will the nature of vlogging change from
 intercommunication to spectatorship? when broadcasting networks make
 their own online video shows, will they be vlogs or will they be tv on
 the internet and does it matter?

They will be tv on the internet, no doubt. Vloginess is something you
get from interacting with your viewers. It's the 1-1 communication
that is so joyous, not the beaming into your brain of mass communication.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread andrew michael baron




It would be nice for others to speak up.

I'm going to shut up for awhile, though I would like to finally say 
this:

I think I would like to retire my proposal-for-consideration and vote 
now to keep vloggercon in mid Jan, though I do think the resolve 
would be to get to work hardcore on this now so that we can get the 
word out, get some great speakers, maybe even some sponsors if that 
is a route anyone wants to consider, but mainly start setting an 
agenda, times, dates, etc, etc, and let the world know, basically, 
whats coming down the pipeline, as soon as this stuff can be worked out.

Cheers for now!
Andrew

p.s. btw, not Amsterdam.

On Jul 21, 2005, at 9:02 AM, R. Kristiansen wrote:

 I sense a ripple in the Force.

 Like Baron, I see that we are approaching a tipping point, and Fast.
 Before Christmas, we will have video iPods, and already we have the
 PSP. In less than two months we will have PSP here in Norway
 (Norwegian version, not just some import from Japan via UK).
 Videoblogging will be all over the place, and these next 6 months will
 be Crucial.

 We should take action, but action is surely not bound to holding
 Vloggercon II in this fall.

 However, I agree. Yes, I agree with both sides, as represented by
 Andrew Baron vs. Markus Sandy.

 We have not much to lose by holding the Vloggercon this autumn, and
 neither will we lose much by holding it in 2006 as planned.

 However, here is my take on the current situation:

 1) We need to do Our thing, without trying to control what others
 does. If the guys who 'own' the vloggercon and who arranged the Con I
 want to do it this autumn, then go ahead. Make the preparations, find
 the date, and start advocating Vloggercon II. If I can at all make it,
 I will. If someone wants to have a conference about videoblogging in
 San Francisco, they should go ahead and do it. Personally, I have
 about 3x as much chance of getting to NYC than San Francisco. The
 flights from Norway to NYC are pretty cheap, whereas SF is half a
 world away literally.

 2) The vlogosphere is beginning to form a sphere with several centres,
 and I am very very happy about that. Remember how it was in December?
 Personally I would rather focus on making a European Videoblogging
 Convention than being a mere participant at an event in the US.
 However, I would of course love to attend both.

 3) Overall, I am very happy about how things are moving. Yes, you have
 the FCC and etc, and there are reasons why we should fear the USA
 controlling the Internet, but we Norwegians will fight back, at least!

 I am positive about how things are working now. But there are ripples
 in the Force, and the crack will come soon.

 Let a thousand vlogospheres bloom, and let us not forget the past, and
 let us not fear the future.

 Just my take on it :)

 Greetings from Copenhagen, where I am having a 6-day vacation together
 with Johannes, my brother. He is 23 years old, but does not want to
 vlog. Damn.

 Best,

 Raymond M. Kristiansen
 http://dltq.org
 http://vlogeurope.com

 ps. Who considers themselves to be behind Vloggercon I in January?
 Jay, Peter, Steve, Chuck, Ryanne? Andrew, Jay, Peter, Joshua? I
 suggest those people get together, consider the options, take in all
 the facts (including tipping point condition) and make a Decision.
 Then those who feel left out can organize their own convention.

 There are a zillion blogging conventions. Why should we think only in
 terms of One videoblog convention? Just wondering :)

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 NYC is ok with me ... but it would be cool to at least consider some
 other places because a) there are some really cool other places that
 b) truely are just as easy to get to (flights = flights). and c) the
 NYC-centric attitude is REALLY strong here ... makes everyone else
 feel somehow removed, when other places aren't considered just 
 because
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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As Art

2005-07-21 Thread Michael Sullivan



my last round of vlogging was called 'life and art commingled'

this is because i was just capturing my surroundings as i found myself in them. 
everything can be considered art... and i mean everything. everyone can be an artist.
so, i wont get into what is and isnt art... that conclusion is almost universally accepted now ;-)

vlogs do allow an immense freedom since their are no rules or restrictions. 
add some music and maybe an effect here and there...or just rant.. or silence... darkness or brightness...
and you accomplish something that some will find interesting.

vlogs are perfect for doubling as an online dynamic media portfolio.. for musicians or anyone really.
it can be a great reference mark in a resume or what have you 'want to see more of me and my work... watch my vlog'

as soon as i get out of my geek dimentia of coding up vlog tools i
want to create a new vlog with some fresh ideas... take it a little
more seriously... and i'll goof around seperately

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differences? Is it in the vlogs themselves, the mode ofproduction/distribution, or is it a bit of both? If a televison showis offered exclusively online, is it a vlog?I'm curious as to how many here view their vlogs as art. Do you
consider what you do art? would you be interested in showing yourvlogs in an art context?I'm not much for tech talk but I do love to talk about the theoreticalimplications of vlogging. Any thoughts?
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Re: [videoblogging] new

2005-07-21 Thread David Holliday





Hello,
I bought a reconditioned one that has rca outputs. I
use a video amp to boost the signal and capture the
whole thing using a pinnacle capture card. I either
use rca inpits or the svideo, via a adaptor. I also
use a Game Boy Advance with a video adaptor as a field
monitor. That way I can adjust the brightness.
I made the short film using Muvee and the song is from
a very old video game.
Thanks for the encouragement,
I will probably be posting some wedding footage shoot
with it.
Pixel on!!
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 i have one too.. been wanting to vlog with it...
 hassle though
 
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   Check out the video,
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   any feedback?
  
  Awesome! Another Pixelator user... ;)
  
  I've threatened using mine for some videoblogging,
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Re: [videoblogging] Online Press Kit - NOTES

2005-07-21 Thread Richard




the page is very cool ... one minor detail is that I'm pretty sure you
want that background image to be a .gif since there aren't too many
colors ... you're getting some really funky .jpg artifacts around the
edges of the letters ... Richard

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 Touch base later today.
 
 Btw, http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com/ looks terrific.
 Everyone holla holla for jan!
 
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  Whilst aggregating information / links with an eye toward the press in
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  Vlog Calendar. We might make more use of our calendar at 
 http://tinyurl.com/d9eyn Plan to link to the calendar but if we don't use
 it, doesn't do the press much good. Would like to get a better group
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[videoblogging] NY Independent TV Festival

2005-07-21 Thread Joshua Kinberg




This looks cool!

http://newyorktelevisionfestival.com/festival.htm

The New York Television Festival will launch in Manhattan from
September 28th through October 3rd in 2005. As the first creative
festival for the medium, the NYTVF will pioneer the movement of
Independent Television and construct a new path for program
development. Writers, directors and producers will be selected from a
national and international grassroots search and given the
unprecedented opportunity to showcase their originally produced Pilot
Programs directly to network and cable executives in a festival
competition.

Held in various locations in Manhattan's historic Greenwich Village,
the NYTVF will celebrate television as an institution and an art form,
from its distinguished history with New York City to its role in
contemporary society. In addition to the competitions, the festival
will honor television's rich heritage with classic screenings, panel
discussions, and interactive events paying tribute to the industry and
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[videoblogging] Re: Making 3gp happen

2005-07-21 Thread Eric Rice




One grassroots initiative is to make it feasible. Get a cell phone that has video playback 
capabilities and put video on it. Do it with the PSP. Watch it in public. Don't apologize. 
Explain to anyone who asks.

Video publishing from cellphones is still ugly as far as usability is concerned. I have four 
phones from four different providers and each (if at all) handles video extraction 
differently (from the horrifically lame to the sublime).

Since I now do vlog consulting (weird, eh?), I make it imperative that everyone does mobile 
video as an option for any early adopters---from the indie to the studios. It's non-
negotiable.

ER



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm not talking about video phone in the sense of using it to record
  video. I mean to watch video on it. Comedy Central for example
  publishes 3-6 new videos a week on their channel on the sprint
  network for people to watch - on the subway, waiting for a bus
  whatever. It really opened my eyes. Heck, they even pay you for
  existing content (not much, but still it's non-exclusive license), and
  are even putting development money towards series. Recently I also
  read about a tv show in Singapore which was going to launch on cell
  phones. The first 30 minutes ( split up into 10 segments) was going
  to premiere on the phones and then move to teevee.
 
 
 im in the US and can only speak for my expeirnce here in NYC.
 has anyone ever SEEN someone watch video on their cellphone?
 i see ads on the subway for some new verizon network on cellphones.
 to me, it smells of HYPE.
 like Nokia's LifeBLOG or ATT's mMode.
 down the toilet.
 
 the phones that take video...is it easy to email it to a blog without a hack?
 
 im glad of any technology that helps us spread each others video.
 i just want some grounded evidence that its feasible.
 
 jay
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon II

2005-07-21 Thread Jay dedman




 I think I would like to retire my proposal-for-consideration and vote
 now to keep vloggercon in mid Jan, though I do think the resolve
 would be to get to work hardcore on this now so that we can get the
 word out, get some great speakers, maybe even some sponsors if that
 is a route anyone wants to consider, but mainly start setting an
 agenda, times, dates, etc, etc, and let the world know, basically,
 whats coming down the pipeline, as soon as this stuff can be worked out.

as of now, its assumed its going to be in NYC.
if we want Vloggercon somewhere else...someone must step and be
prepared to take on the responsibility of putting it on...for
basically not much money.
the key is to be creative with connections.

i also would like to hear other voices.
we should have a plan by september...give people 4 months to plan their travel.

jay

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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As TV

2005-07-21 Thread Devlon




 i wonder, as the structure of video on the internet continues to
 expand, if the tv model will become more prevelant and makers will
 scrap the blog model and use feedreaders and directories as a sole
 means of distributing their video. is it still a vlog if there is no
 link to a home? will the nature of vlogging change from
 intercommunication to spectatorship? when broadcasting networks make
 their own online video shows, will they be vlogs or will they be tv on
 the internet and does it matter?
 
 anne

You make me think far too often :)

Here's something...as the content that vlogging produces gets more
widely accessed it (hopefully) also will create a very large desire to
make it even more accessible (like a couple of months maybe?). As the
means to distribute and view vlogs expands, it will escape it's
definitions. Just like movies that are now available on tv, etc. 
Radio on satelitte...

I think we already can post a clip to a site and it houses it, and has
a feed available to be picked up by the aggregators. (Not sure where
'cause I like my vlog sites too much) No site, just profile info,
that's all. Would this be more widely used? It would remove the
interactivity (comments) from the current vlog 'model'...is that part
of the definition of a vlog?

Will vlogging also slip loose the RSS and enclosure ties then?

Once the interactivity is gone, it would be no different than other
forms of visual media. So, the question then is what differentiates
these different forms of media? If you take all the commercialism,
means of viewing the media and the subject of the media what is left?

I pick motive. What motive drove the creator to create? Commercials
want to sell you something, television shows and movies want to
entertain you/move you, documentaries want to educate you and news
shows want to inform you. What motive was behind a vlog...could be
any of the above. Unfortunately the movies and television, news and
maybe even documentaries are in most cases on a profit model. Even if
the documentary wasn't, the channel that brings it to you is selling
the air time to commercials.

A vlog was born from a blog and a blog was born from a log, a journal...
(jour·nal n. A personal record of occurrences, experiences, and
reflections kept on a regular basis;)

So the motive behind a vlog (and I think in almost every case I seen
this is still true) is to record our occurrences, experiences, and
reflections. Boiled down to it's core, isn't that it?

So, vlogs that would be commercials, will be. Would-be actors and
actresses will or won't be famous via their vlogs. Will that stop any
of us from 'writing in our log'?


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[videoblogging] Re: watch YOU tonight!

2005-07-21 Thread ro9core




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ryanne hodson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i didnt realize that the MNN stream was up again
 so you can watch jay and my cable access show from anywhere in the
world.
 
 go to mnn.org
 click on channel 56
 one hour from now
 that's 11:30 eastern standard time in the states.
 
 we'll show some vids and also act like total assholes.


Can't wait... can you give a shout out to my mom?

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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs As TV

2005-07-21 Thread Halcyon Lujah




On 7/21/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i have very little interest at this point in watching vlogs on a
 television, regularly.


Interesting! This thread has made some things much more clear to me.

For example, *my* eventual goal is to have people watch my videos on a
TV, not via their computer.

(You can't even buy a new PC now without being offered the Media
center...so this is not far off.)

The computer is a terrible place to present video. People are in
multi-tasking mode. Personally, It is rare that I watch more than 2
minutes of video without checking my email at some point (and I don't
think my habits are unique.)

I long for the great convergence when my self-produced, self-published
videos will be available and viewable in a TV setting...when people
have their feet kicked up. When they settle in to their sofa with a
beer and actually focus on my work.

I am new to vlogging and am now understanding that maybe I don't want
to be a vlogger at all. (I still think it is SUPER cool, but not my
end goal.)

I just started working with a company that is focussed on full-screen,
all-can-publish, TV-like programming. At first I thought the overlap
with vlogging was substancial, but I am learning that they quite
distinct. They address similar ideas and I'm excited about both!
(I'll post about the new company soon.)

In any case, thanks for the great brain food!
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[videoblogging] Re: watch YOU tonight!

2005-07-21 Thread Chris Nolan.ca




Do you guys have to worry about rights for that station? For the
video's that you did show, did you just clear things? Or was it in
their CC license to allow that?

Jay, I appreciated the evangalism even if Ryan was giving you a hard
time about it. 

The one good thing about it being dark was we didn't have to see *all*
of Michael ;-)

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[videoblogging] More than one feed?

2005-07-21 Thread Chris Nolan.ca




My system is programmed to allow for a seperate feed for every
category (tag), and gives the most recent 15 entries for that tag. I
also have a 'main' feed which shows the most recent over all. Because
my blog is both video and text, when I first started I updated some of
my older videos so that they'd be available, as well I wasn't sure how
aggregators and stuff would handle a post that didn't have any
enclosure (i.e. my text posts).

Now it seems that the aggregators (mefeedia and fireant) ignore the
non-video posts, which is good - but to make a long story short I
added both to mefeedia originally and so now there are two different
entries over there :-( This could confuse people? (and also split my
subscribes in half, diluting my rank :-)

The question is, do people foresee a time when more generic
aggregators will exist that will handle the text entries and the
enriched entries? My system is going to have the extra feeds anyway,
but should I push people to use just the video only feed or push them
to use the main feed?

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