[videoblogging] Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread digitalfilmmaker



We have crossed a milestone with this weekend's 
announcement
  that TiVo has entered into an agreement with the popular web show Rocketboom. Finally a model for independent television is upon us.
Right now the television shows are developed by a handful of trusted writer/producers in Hollywood who have become trusted enough to pitch there show ideas to the Networks. They've gained this trust by working on other television shows or by being incredibly success in another medium such as film, or books, or porn. If you're not one of these trusted people, the networks will not talk to you about your ideas.
These pitches are then considered by the network suits and a few are chosen to be turned into full fledged pilot scripts. These scripts are then read and fewer still are made into actual pilots and then the best pilots make it to air where most of them fail to generate the 8-15 million viewers required to stay on the air.
In the last year with maturity of mRSS  and the wide dispersal of high-quality digital video production tools, video podcasting has exploded. For the new kids on the block, video podcasting allows programs like 
iTunes and 
FireAnt  to automatically download video content. It's like signing up for a season pass on TiVo. Once you find a podcast you like, you can tell these programs to always download the newest content when it appears on the net.
That's the groundwork, and now with this TiVo deal you can add that same sort of functionality to your television set through TiVo.Great. But how does that change anything? Well, it changes things because it gives TiVo an incentive to make other deals with indie producers so that they can distinguish themselves from the generic PVR boxes more and more cable and satellite providers are giving to their customers.
It also will allow for a model where indie producers will have incentive to create longer DVD-length pilots for their shows on the cheap. Why go to a big network that's just going to shit all over your idea when you can produce your own content the way you want it and then take it to the network when you have built a following through TiVo and iTunes. If you can prove your show is being watched by a million people, you're getting close to what the average viewership is on basic cable.
How will the producers make money? Subscribers, DVD sales, and small interactive ads for the people who don't subscribe. The subscribers is a simple extension of how people pay for cable today. ESPN gets around $2.50 out of your monthly cable bill to support it's programming. That works out to $30 a year and about eight cents for each day's Sports Center.
If you charge people $5 or $10 a year to subscribe to your entire archive and get extra content and early access to your new shows you should see a fairly sizable subscriber base (10%-ish). It's important to not that you still give away your content freely on the net and TiVo, but you just charge a reasonable fee for subscription and you treat your free customers with respect.
The market for DVDs is impressive. Sales of TV show DVD is very strong, and it costs under $2 to physically produce a DVD. Add the usual bevvy of special features and DVD only content and you should be able to sell enough discs to recoup your costs with a healthy profit.
Advertising. Again this should not be intrusive. But a simple ad at the end of your content will bring in enough money to fund the project and not be annoying to the viewers. And this ad would not appear on the subscriber's content, this would only be for your free viewers.
So that's where the money comes from, but where does the content come from?On the indie film front, one of the most innovative companies in film is 
InDigEnt. They produce films for $150,000 where everyone on the crew gets paid $100 a day and then receives profit participation when the film sells. This is the model for how indie television should be made.
A typical network pilots costs in the millions of dollars, cable a little less. 15 indie pilots could be made for each network pilot. And the indie pilot would be a lot longer than a network pilot.If you look at shows like the original BBC series The Office, the first season consists of six episodes, with a running time of around 170 minutes. The show did a second season and a few specials in Great Britain and was developed into a full fledged American sitcom too.
Indie Television would do the same thing. We'd create 90-120 minutes of original content that would be divided into weekly episodes. Episodes would be from 5-15 minutes, released weekly for 10-20 weeks and then sold as a DVD. Successful shows would have multiple seasons and have the possibility of moving up to a bigger network if the audience is there.
Projects would have budgets no larger than $150,000 for an entire season with everyone paid the same and have a share of the profits (the more involved you are the bigger the percentage). And the copyrights and intellectual property would 

Re: [videoblogging] mefeedia blogroll issue

2005-12-12 Thread Devlon
It was I who suggested a discussion about it, but I suggested the
mefeedia users list :)

...this works too though.

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  I have been using the blogroll 'java script' through mefeedia.  I just
  got a message from the sites manager that I should bring this up in
  this chat to see what everyone thinks about it.  Recently they deleted
  this feature because not many people were using it, maybe just me :) .
  So what do you think, should they keep it, should the feature be
  modified somehow, or should the blogroll 'java script' be available
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[videoblogging] NY Times Magazine Article

2005-12-12 Thread Steve Garfield
Weblog safe link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/magazine/11ideas_section4-15.html? 
ex=1291957200en=ccb4b0d8c576d4d5ei=5090partner=rssuserlandemc=rss

http://tinyurl.com/blosp

With all the talk about the newspaper article yesterday, I didn't  
realize that there was a magazine article too.

Nice to see Michael Verdi, Chuck Olsen, Josh Leo, Charlene Rue in there.

I find it both funny and ironic that the photo they use of Josh is one  
where he is doing an impression of Clark ov Saturn.
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[videoblogging] What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Lisa Williams
So, what camera should I ask Santa for?

I've got a pocket digital camera that I like, but it limits video clips
to three minutes.  I'd like to get a small digital camcorder, nothing
too pricey.  Thoughts?

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Re: [videoblogging] new poster, long time lurker, blah blah blah

2005-12-12 Thread Jay dedman
 So I'm new here. And have been reading everything as it slowly
 developed for several months now. Usually I'd fly in and just start
 posting without any formal introduction. So here it is. Cheers to
 beers and future posts. Sometime soon, hopefully, I'll be able to
 contribute something more than just text.

welcome to the group.
id ove to see some video from you.
just ask questions as they come.
freevlog.org is the place to start.

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[videoblogging] Re: NY Times Magazine Article

2005-12-12 Thread Jack Olmsted



 With all the talk about the newspaper article yesterday, I didn't  realize that there was a magazine article too.Today, CNET (News.com) republished the NY Times article-Jackhttp://view-point.blogspot.com





  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] new poster, long time lurker, blah blah blah

2005-12-12 Thread Markus Sandy
welcome joey

please tell us a little more about yourself
what are your related affiliations, if any?

please see the welcome message for more info

do you have a videoblog?

cheers to you
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[videoblogging] Re: Yet another NYT article on vlogging

2005-12-12 Thread Bill Streeter
I think you nailed it.

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am happy that My vlog was mentioned in the video Podcast 
article...I am
 happy that my picture wound up on there too...However I am not 
happy that my
 Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world 
with this
 phrase like a college kid in Michigan playing drunken miniature
 golfhttp://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini-
golf_113003256933347945.html,
 Really? is that all my Vlog is? I would love it If when I got a 
mention in a
 international news paper that it said something like:
 
 Josh Leo's Vlog is really well done and entertaining Josh Leo 
is a very
 good story teller Josh Leo's Vlog is consistent and always fun
 
 Instead, I get lumped with all the college kids who make videos 
of their
 friends puking, crashing their bikes, shooting fireworks out of 
their mouths
 and getting drunk in front of the camera. I would like to think 
that what II
 am doing is more than just some college kid getting drunk in front 
of a
 camera. I would like to get proper representation. I know that 
Really I am
 asking for too much. I should be saying it is so sweet that they 
even chose
 to mention me an dI do feel that way, but it is my natural 
insecure-self
 that wants more...I don't expect to be lifted above everyone else 
and
 praised for some amazing feat, I just want to be mentioned without
 cringing...I want to be recognized as what I am...whatever that is!
 
 ok, begin the Josh you are a self-centered ass who is never 
satisfied with
 anything who should be grateful for all you have gotten so far 
emails
 flow...
 
 On 12/10/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well I thought that overall that was a very good article. It has 
lots
  of good thing to say about the videoblogs (like mine :) ) it
  references and generally makes videoblogging sound like this new 
and
  exciting thing that's happening - which I certainly think is 
true.
 
  There is one subtle point that they hit on a number of times in 
the
  article that I think is off base. And the NY Times isn't the 
only one
  to this, it happens in almost every article written in the 
mainstream
  press.
  Some quotes from the article:
  What makes Rocketboom so different from most of the other video
  blogs, or vlogs, that have popped up in the last year or so is 
that
  the daily episodes are consistently entertaining.
 
  Many of the world's other vlogs are closer in form to diaries or
  home movies - with all the tedium that can imply.
 
  Most of the vlogs are quite boring
 
  So here's where I think they miss the point: The value judgement 
of
  consistently entertaining or boring is holdover from 
commercial
  TV or film where everyone's goal is to be entertaining to as many
  people as possible so that they can sell advertising or movie 
tickets
  to recoup the enormous costs of production and distribution. 
While
  this might still hold somehwhat true in the context of talking 
about
  Rocketboom, it's not relevant to the vast majority of videoblogs.
  It's personal media. For the most part videoblogs are narrowly
  targeted to a small audience who I'm sure finds them consistently
  entertaining. They are not necessarily meant to be or try to be
  entertaining to a general audience. And because, unlike 
Rocketboom,
  an episode really only costs $20 or more likely $2, they can 
afford
  to be specific in what audience they aim for.
 
  To be clear here, I'm not saying that I personally think that 
every
  videoblog out there is fantastic (my tastes aren't THAT 
eclectic). It
  just doesn't matter whether I think of them at all. What matters 
is
  that they can videoblog for what ever reason they choose to - to 
keep
  in touch with friends, document their lives, whatever. That in 
and of
  itself is a powerful thing. They don't have to be everything to
  everyone. The beauty is they can just be what they are and you 
can
  freely pick and choose the ones that seem to be made just for 
you.
  There are already enough people doing it that I have about 80
  videoblogs that I personally subscribe to that create more 
commercial
  free content than I have time to watch and that I find more
  entertaining and informative than most TV or movies.
 
  I believe that when people learn that an alternative exists where
  they can create and share their own media, tell their own 
stories,
  and write the history of their own communities, the face of media
  will change forever. I think that blogging, podcasting and
  videoblogging could make that a reality in 2006. That's why I
  personally think, like the article says at the end, the 
revolution
  may just be vloggerized.
 
  Verdi
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Yet another NYT article on vlogging

2005-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan



JOsh,add a new tagline to your videoblogNot just some drunk college kid with a video camera.. Josh Leo is a story teller!sullOn 12/11/05, 
Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am happy that My vlog was mentioned in the video Podcast article...I am happy that my picture wound up on there too...However I am not happy that my Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world with this phrase like a college kid in Michigan playing 
drunken miniature golf, Really? is that all my Vlog is? I would love it If when I got a mention in a international news paper that it said something like:
Josh Leo's Vlog is really well done and entertaining Josh Leo is a very good story teller Josh Leo's Vlog is consistent and always funInstead, I get lumped with all the college kids who make videos of their friends puking, crashing their bikes, shooting fireworks out of their mouths and getting drunk in front of the camera. I would like to think that what II am doing is more than just some college kid getting drunk in front of a camera. I would like to get proper representation. I know that Really I am asking for too much. I should be saying it is so sweet that they even chose to mention me an dI do feel that way, but it is my natural insecure-self that wants more...I don't expect to be lifted above everyone else and praised for some amazing feat, I just want to be mentioned without cringing...I want to be recognized as what I am...whatever that is!
ok, begin the Josh you are a self-centered ass who is never satisfied with anything who should be grateful for all you have gotten so far emails flow...
On 12/10/05, 
Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well I thought that overall that was a very good article. It has lotsof good thing to say about the videoblogs (like mine :) ) itreferences and generally makes videoblogging sound like this new andexciting thing that's happening - which I certainly think is true.
There is one subtle point that they hit on a number of times in thearticle that I think is off base. And the NY Times isn't the only oneto this, it happens in almost every article written in the mainstream
press.Some quotes from the article:What makes Rocketboom so different from most of the other videoblogs, or vlogs, that have popped up in the last year or so is thatthe daily episodes are consistently entertaining.
Many of the world's other vlogs are closer in form to diaries orhome movies - with all the tedium that can imply.Most of the vlogs are quite boringSo here's where I think they miss the point: The value judgement of
consistently entertaining or boring is holdover from commercialTV or film where everyone's goal is to be entertaining to as manypeople as possible so that they can sell advertising or movie tickets
to recoup the enormous costs of production and distribution. Whilethis might still hold somehwhat true in the context of talking aboutRocketboom, it's not relevant to the vast majority of videoblogs.It's personal media. For the most part videoblogs are narrowly
targeted to a small audience who I'm sure finds them consistentlyentertaining. They are not necessarily meant to be or try to beentertaining to a general audience. And because, unlike Rocketboom,an episode really only costs $20 or more likely $2, they can afford
to be specific in what audience they aim for.To be clear here, I'm not saying that I personally think that everyvideoblog out there is fantastic (my tastes aren't THAT eclectic). Itjust doesn't matter whether I think of them at all. What matters is
that they can videoblog for what ever reason they choose to - to keepin touch with friends, document their lives, whatever. That in and ofitself is a powerful thing. They don't have to be everything toeveryone. The beauty is they can just be what they are and you can
freely pick and choose the ones that seem to be made just for you.There are already enough people doing it that I have about 80videoblogs that I personally subscribe to that create more commercialfree content than I have time to watch and that I find more
entertaining and informative than most TV or movies.I believe that when people learn that an alternative exists wherethey can create and share their own media, tell their own stories,and write the history of their own communities, the face of media
will change forever. I think that blogging, podcasting andvideoblogging could make that a reality in 2006. That's why Ipersonally think, like the article says at the end, the revolutionmay just be vloggerized.
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Re: [videoblogging] Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Christopher Weagel

On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All it takes now is someone with a little money and vision to  
 really start doing it.


Some people have been doing this for quite a goddamn while.

Not that anyone scribbling these inane articles cares unless it's  
McDonald's TV.


Good god, Indie TV? Just as awful as Indie Film? PUKE.

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[videoblogging] Re: Yet another NYT article on vlogging

2005-12-12 Thread Enric
You're correct Josh.  Being a college student is not a correct
representation of what your videos are.  It's a generalization for the
purposes of the article.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am happy that My vlog was mentioned in the video Podcast
article...I am
 happy that my picture wound up on there too...However I am not happy
that my
 Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world with
this
 phrase like a college kid in Michigan playing drunken miniature

golfhttp://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini-golf_113003256933347945.html,
 Really? is that all my Vlog is? I would love it If when I got a
mention in a
 international news paper that it said something like:
 
 Josh Leo's Vlog is really well done and entertaining Josh Leo is
a very
 good story teller Josh Leo's Vlog is consistent and always fun
 
 Instead, I get lumped with all the college kids who make videos of
their
 friends puking, crashing their bikes, shooting fireworks out of
their mouths
 and getting drunk in front of the camera. I would like to think that
what II
 am doing is more than just some college kid getting drunk in front of a
 camera. I would like to get proper representation. I know that
Really I am
 asking for too much. I should be saying it is so sweet that they
even chose
 to mention me an dI do feel that way, but it is my natural
insecure-self
 that wants more...I don't expect to be lifted above everyone else and
 praised for some amazing feat, I just want to be mentioned without
 cringing...I want to be recognized as what I am...whatever that is!
 
 ok, begin the Josh you are a self-centered ass who is never
satisfied with
 anything who should be grateful for all you have gotten so far emails
 flow...
 
 On 12/10/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well I thought that overall that was a very good article. It has lots
  of good thing to say about the videoblogs (like mine :) ) it
  references and generally makes videoblogging sound like this new and
  exciting thing that's happening - which I certainly think is true.
 
  There is one subtle point that they hit on a number of times in the
  article that I think is off base. And the NY Times isn't the only one
  to this, it happens in almost every article written in the mainstream
  press.
  Some quotes from the article:
  What makes Rocketboom so different from most of the other video
  blogs, or vlogs, that have popped up in the last year or so is that
  the daily episodes are consistently entertaining.
 
  Many of the world's other vlogs are closer in form to diaries or
  home movies - with all the tedium that can imply.
 
  Most of the vlogs are quite boring
 
  So here's where I think they miss the point: The value judgement of
  consistently entertaining or boring is holdover from commercial
  TV or film where everyone's goal is to be entertaining to as many
  people as possible so that they can sell advertising or movie tickets
  to recoup the enormous costs of production and distribution. While
  this might still hold somehwhat true in the context of talking about
  Rocketboom, it's not relevant to the vast majority of videoblogs.
  It's personal media. For the most part videoblogs are narrowly
  targeted to a small audience who I'm sure finds them consistently
  entertaining. They are not necessarily meant to be or try to be
  entertaining to a general audience. And because, unlike Rocketboom,
  an episode really only costs $20 or more likely $2, they can afford
  to be specific in what audience they aim for.
 
  To be clear here, I'm not saying that I personally think that every
  videoblog out there is fantastic (my tastes aren't THAT eclectic). It
  just doesn't matter whether I think of them at all. What matters is
  that they can videoblog for what ever reason they choose to - to keep
  in touch with friends, document their lives, whatever. That in and of
  itself is a powerful thing. They don't have to be everything to
  everyone. The beauty is they can just be what they are and you can
  freely pick and choose the ones that seem to be made just for you.
  There are already enough people doing it that I have about 80
  videoblogs that I personally subscribe to that create more commercial
  free content than I have time to watch and that I find more
  entertaining and informative than most TV or movies.
 
  I believe that when people learn that an alternative exists where
  they can create and share their own media, tell their own stories,
  and write the history of their own communities, the face of media
  will change forever. I think that blogging, podcasting and
  videoblogging could make that a reality in 2006. That's why I
  personally think, like the article says at the end, the revolution
  may just be vloggerized.
 
  Verdi
 
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Blue Screen/Green Screen Was: Re: [videoblogging] Some rules to vlog by.

2005-12-12 Thread Jeffrey
Okay... any good tutorials on how to Green/Blue Screen in Premiere or a 
general tutorial?

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Blue Screen/Green Screen Was: Re: [videoblogging] Some rules to vlog by.

2005-12-12 Thread Enric
This is a tutorial on Chroma Keying in Final Cut Pro.  But many of the
ideas and principals apply to any fully featured editing system like
Premiere:

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/chroma_key_fcp_hd_monahan.html

  -- Enric


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay... any good tutorials on how to Green/Blue Screen in Premiere or a 
 general tutorial?
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry Edits Wikipedia Anon

2005-12-12 Thread Enric
Be not unclean in fields during the time...

http://www.betterbadnews.com:2080/bbn/video/12070501bbncurry.mov
or
http://tinyurl.com/c6c3c

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Re: [videoblogging] Sound editor features (was Re: New poll for videoblogging)

2005-12-12 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Frank Carver wrote:
 Friday, December 9, 2005, 6:04:25 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:

If you don't feel comfortable editing a wiki, email me your review and I
will add it.

 My main problem is that I simply don't have enough experience of big
 name audio editing software to know what features might be missing
 from Audacity.  I don't even know what audio-editing software other
 people are using.
 
 For example, a lot of people here seem to be using Macs with
 GarageBand. How does that differ from Audacity? What does it offer
 that Audacity doesn't, and what does Audacity offer that GarageBand
 doesn't.
 
 I can't help, because I've never used a Mac or GarageBand.

Well, I think it would be valuable to hear about what you *have* used, 
and what you like and dislike about it. :)

That's pretty much all I can offer. I hope someone finds it useful.

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Blue Screen/Green Screen Was: Re: [videoblogging] Some rules to vlog by.

2005-12-12 Thread wtrainbow
Hey Jeffrey,

This is a good tutorial - not specific to any software.

http://www.macmoviemaker.com/index.php?id=5

Will
http://www.tiny-tube.com

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Steve Garfield
On Dec 12, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Enric wrote:

 video podcasting allows programs like iTunes 
 http://apple.com/itunes and
 FireAnthttp://getfireant.comto automatically download video content.

 Video podcasting does not apply to products like fireAnt that allow
 the blog and feedback that makes a videoblog.

Video podcasting does apply to FireAnt.  It automatically downloads 
content and MORE. ;-)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry Edits Wikipedia Anon

2005-12-12 Thread Ted Tagami



OMG..why have I never seen betterbadnews before?! Incredible!!! hhahaaOn 12/12/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Be not unclean in fields during the time...

http://www.betterbadnews.com:2080/bbn/video/12070501bbncurry.mov
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Re: [videoblogging] another win for Andrew and Amanda

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Re: [videoblogging] What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Steve Garfield
Hi Lisa!

I'm glad you asked that question.

I get it all the time.

I hope we see a really good response from the group.

When I tell people that I use my Canon S400 for video they are usually 
surprised.  I really like being able to drag the video clips to the 
desktop without having to deal with tapes.

The quality though is not as good as my Canon GL/2 and when we watch on 
TV, you notice a difference.  It's pretty good for web video though.

One good thing about miniDV tapes is that you always have a backup of 
you do not reuse your tapes.

I'd look into one of the cameras like the Canon SD400 or SD500 for a 
portable, Flash based camera.

Other than that, I'd like to hear about people's suggestions for a 
miniDV camera from maybe Canon or Sony.

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 So, what camera should I ask Santa for?

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[videoblogging] Re: Yet another NYT article on vlogging

2005-12-12 Thread missbhavens1969
Oh, hey, don't sweat it. They have to generalise to keep things brief, and 
sure, they could 
have written about your Germany trip or mango-slicing, but they have to go for 
something 
a great number of people can relate to, and really, Putt-Putt golf and boozing 
are pretty 
much a major USA activity--particularly when they're done at the same time.  
New people 
can check out your work based on having read the article and see it's true 
value for 
themselves. People who WANT to see ...a college kid playing drunken miniature 
golf will 
see that you have more to offer and people who don't will STILL see that you 
have more to 
offer. I wouldn't really want to be known as ...the woman who films her 
boyfriend in a 
Darth Vader mask in his underwear..., but whatever!


I think kudos are in order for the college kid in Michigan whether he golfs 
drunk or not,
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 Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world with this
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Re: [videoblogging] What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Loiez D.
I have a Panasonic NV-GS120
3CCD
with a good optic Leica
This is too small to make good films ( i want to buy an HDV)
and this his too big ( and expensive) to be alway on my pocket.

When you buy a camera ( AMHA) the only question is :
what do you want to do with your camera ?

Regards

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 Other than that, I'd like to hear about people's suggestions for a
 miniDV camera from maybe Canon or Sony.




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[videoblogging] Re: What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread missbhavens1969
Although I loove my camera, I DO regret not simply getting a decent still 
camera that 
shoots short movie clips. In the videoblogging world, three minutes is plenty, 
although the 
3 shooting limit  does restrict you if you want to keep shooting all day and 
edit stuff later! 
It would be perfect to carry around all the time to capture quickie moments 
(DAD IF YOU 
ARE READING THIS THAT IS A CHRISTMAS HINT)

I bought a Canon Optura 60, which doesn a billion things I don't need it to do, 
nor have I 
really read the manual. It shoots, I can work the zoom, it has a nice motion 
stabilizer. 
Prices vary wildly: It hovers in the $650-$850 range. I ended up with a large 
package deal 
full of stuff (some of which I also don't really need--but then also extra 
tapes, battery, 
case, speedy charger, memory card, card reader, longer warantee)  for $850 and 
there a 
$100 Canon rebate till the end of the year. It's the only video camera I've 
ever owned so I 
can't compare it to anything.

I think you may be better off with your good still camera than a too-low-end DV 
camera--
image-quality wise. Oh, what do I know.

Bekah
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry Edits Wikipedia Anon

2005-12-12 Thread Deirdre Straughan



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Re: [videoblogging] What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Jay dedman
 So, what camera should I ask Santa for?
 I've got a pocket digital camera that I like, but it limits video clips
 to three minutes.  I'd like to get a small digital camcorder, nothing
 too pricey.  Thoughts?

this is it: Canon SD400 or SD500
canon's are great cameras for video.
extremely small and cheap.
Ryan just bought one online for 175$.
takes literally several hours of video with a big SD card.
30 frames a second, shoots as long as you have memory.

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Re: [videoblogging] another win for Andrew and Amanda

2005-12-12 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:34:19 +0100, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The new video formatting in rocketboom is fantastic, and is precisely  
 where
 video needs to go.  Very exciting stuff.

Since Yahoo is being slow and haven't processed my first reply I can still  
amend it. :o)

This is great from rocketboom. I keep talking about links in video (like  
Steve of Elbows keep talking about MP4) - it's been the big thing for me  
since I was exposed to Adrian Miles' stuff some time in the summer of last  
year (and I've been doing examples here and there since). I couldn't ask  
for a better example than rocketboom. It always helps when the cool kid on  
the block joins the army. :o)

I saw the chapter tracks on rocketboom last week (I think?) and was all  
very nice use of chapters. This is even better. I'm missing a visual  
clue that there are links - people are not used to 'reading' hypervideo so  
unless authors tell them (in the beginning, at least) they won't know that  
they can click. Back in the previous rocketboom vs. bloggy video  
discussion I was going to post an example of time based links using go to  
story buttons on rocketboom.

Andrew if you're reading this: Are you using HREF tracks or some software  
solution (LiveStage, eZedia etc.)?

It just proves to the suckers on Tivo that videoblogs are much cooler than  
tv. Remember: Video in a blog must be more than video in a blog.

This is also where I'd post a link to the old Quicktime Thingie that could  
add text links to quicktime movies. But after having seen eZedia I would  
use that instead (using images for links instead of text). It just looks  
nicer. URL: http://www.ezedia.com/store/eZediaQTI.html 
Or if you just want a 'bug' or want to make a video quote with a link back  
there's my own URL: http://www.solitude.dk/archives/linkubator/ 

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[videoblogging] Re: What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah I think that's one of the Euro cousins of my little Panasonic 
PV-GS70. Which was the first sub-$1000 3 chip that Panasonic made. 
They now have a line of them the 75, 150 and 250 (I think). I love 
mine. It's not real good in low light but the newer models are 
better. I got mine used on ebay for about $600 but I bet it's 
cheaper than that now. You can get the 150 for about $450-500 from a 
reputable dealer. It also shoots MP4 video to an SD card if you need 
it too, so that would be good for a vlogger and save some bucks on 
tape. But the camera isn't Macintosh compatible for reading the SD 
card (works fine for tape). So you would need a separate card reader 
for it, which is not a big deal. It's kind of the best of all 
worlds, it's small, shoots good quality video, has good manual 
features, and can record to a card or tape. I also have a wide angle 
lens attachment for it which is very useful. 

I've also shot with a Panasonic DVX 100a, a Canon GL2 and an Canon 
XL2, all of which are excellent cameras but kind of over kill for a 
video blogger. Plus they are very expensive. And in the case of the 
XL2, size is really an issue--it's just too damn big!! But all of 
these would be great choices if you ever planned on making broadcast 
quailty video. 

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I have a Panasonic NV-GS120
 3CCD
 with a good optic Leica
 This is too small to make good films ( i want to buy an HDV)
 and this his too big ( and expensive) to be alway on my pocket.
 
 When you buy a camera ( AMHA) the only question is :
 what do you want to do with your camera ?
 
 Regards
 
 Loiez
 http://www.loiez.org
 
 
 Le 12 déc. 05 à 20:18, Steve Garfield a écrit :
 
  Other than that, I'd like to hear about people's suggestions for 
a
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[videoblogging] Re: Yet another NYT article on vlogging

2005-12-12 Thread johngaltsjournal
Eh, when I was in the NYT, they were more exicted about some video on YouTube 
that 
consisted of still images of a one-eyed dog on a sailboat... And the video they 
liked of 
mine is where I eat Mountain Oysters for the first time.

Then quoted me out of context saying, show me the money or something... 

In the end, it didn't really get me more eyes watching my videos... I fact, the 
only thing 
that came out of the article was the happiness in my moms eyes.  I was a hit at 
her 
ceramics class.
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 I think you nailed it.
 
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 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am happy that My vlog was mentioned in the video Podcast 
 article...I am
  happy that my picture wound up on there too...However I am not 
 happy that my
  Vlog (which has around 70 videos) has been brought to the world 
 with this
  phrase like a college kid in Michigan playing drunken miniature
  golfhttp://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini-
 golf_113003256933347945.html,
  Really? is that all my Vlog is? I would love it If when I got a 
 mention in a
  international news paper that it said something like:
  
  Josh Leo's Vlog is really well done and entertaining Josh Leo 
 is a very
  good story teller Josh Leo's Vlog is consistent and always fun
  
  Instead, I get lumped with all the college kids who make videos 
 of their
  friends puking, crashing their bikes, shooting fireworks out of 
 their mouths
  and getting drunk in front of the camera. I would like to think 
 that what II
  am doing is more than just some college kid getting drunk in front 
 of a
  camera. I would like to get proper representation. I know that 
 Really I am
  asking for too much. I should be saying it is so sweet that they 
 even chose
  to mention me an dI do feel that way, but it is my natural 
 insecure-self
  that wants more...I don't expect to be lifted above everyone else 
 and
  praised for some amazing feat, I just want to be mentioned without
  cringing...I want to be recognized as what I am...whatever that is!
  
  ok, begin the Josh you are a self-centered ass who is never 
 satisfied with
  anything who should be grateful for all you have gotten so far 
 emails
  flow...
  
  On 12/10/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Well I thought that overall that was a very good article. It has 
 lots
   of good thing to say about the videoblogs (like mine :) ) it
   references and generally makes videoblogging sound like this new 
 and
   exciting thing that's happening - which I certainly think is 
 true.
  
   There is one subtle point that they hit on a number of times in 
 the
   article that I think is off base. And the NY Times isn't the 
 only one
   to this, it happens in almost every article written in the 
 mainstream
   press.
   Some quotes from the article:
   What makes Rocketboom so different from most of the other video
   blogs, or vlogs, that have popped up in the last year or so is 
 that
   the daily episodes are consistently entertaining.
  
   Many of the world's other vlogs are closer in form to diaries or
   home movies - with all the tedium that can imply.
  
   Most of the vlogs are quite boring
  
   So here's where I think they miss the point: The value judgement 
 of
   consistently entertaining or boring is holdover from 
 commercial
   TV or film where everyone's goal is to be entertaining to as many
   people as possible so that they can sell advertising or movie 
 tickets
   to recoup the enormous costs of production and distribution. 
 While
   this might still hold somehwhat true in the context of talking 
 about
   Rocketboom, it's not relevant to the vast majority of videoblogs.
   It's personal media. For the most part videoblogs are narrowly
   targeted to a small audience who I'm sure finds them consistently
   entertaining. They are not necessarily meant to be or try to be
   entertaining to a general audience. And because, unlike 
 Rocketboom,
   an episode really only costs $20 or more likely $2, they can 
 afford
   to be specific in what audience they aim for.
  
   To be clear here, I'm not saying that I personally think that 
 every
   videoblog out there is fantastic (my tastes aren't THAT 
 eclectic). It
   just doesn't matter whether I think of them at all. What matters 
 is
   that they can videoblog for what ever reason they choose to - to 
 keep
   in touch with friends, document their lives, whatever. That in 
 and of
   itself is a powerful thing. They don't have to be everything to
   everyone. The beauty is they can just be what they are and you 
 can
   freely pick and choose the ones that seem to be made just for 
 you.
   There are already enough people doing it that I have about 80
   videoblogs that I personally subscribe to that create more 
 

[videoblogging] Re: What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Bill Streeter
I might be wrong about this but that camera might be able to record 
MP4 video to it's memory card as well. Maybe you should read that 
manual.

Bill Streeter
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Although I loove my camera, I DO regret not simply getting a 
decent still camera that 
 shoots short movie clips. In the videoblogging world, three 
minutes is plenty, although the 
 3 shooting limit  does restrict you if you want to keep shooting 
all day and edit stuff later! 
 It would be perfect to carry around all the time to capture 
quickie moments (DAD IF YOU 
 ARE READING THIS THAT IS A CHRISTMAS HINT)
 
 I bought a Canon Optura 60, which doesn a billion things I don't 
need it to do, nor have I 
 really read the manual. It shoots, I can work the zoom, it has a 
nice motion stabilizer. 
 Prices vary wildly: It hovers in the $650-$850 range. I ended up 
with a large package deal 
 full of stuff (some of which I also don't really need--but then 
also extra tapes, battery, 
 case, speedy charger, memory card, card reader, longer warantee)  
for $850 and there a 
 $100 Canon rebate till the end of the year. It's the only video 
camera I've ever owned so I 
 can't compare it to anything.
 
 I think you may be better off with your good still camera than a 
too-low-end DV camera--
 image-quality wise. Oh, what do I know.
 
 Bekah
 http://missbhavens.blogspot.com
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  So, what camera should I ask Santa for?
  
  I've got a pocket digital camera that I like, but it limits 
video clips
  to three minutes.  I'd like to get a small digital camcorder, 
nothing
  too pricey.  Thoughts?
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Kent Nichols
Who is doing what I described?  Producing 100 minutes of show for $150k?  I'd 
love to talk to them!

The great thing about video podcasting is that it can scale to every level.  
From tiny video diaries to heavily produced shows.  You decide which level 
you're going to play at.

You rebuke Indie film -- and sure a lot of it is self-absorbed claptrap, but 
does that mean you only accept summer blockbusters as truly great cinema?  Or 
do you reject all films?

What I'm describing is way for people like me who want to be in show business.  
 This is how to get to the business part using these tools.  To recoup $150,000 
you need to sell less than 10,000 DVDs.  And with the other revenue models you 
should be able to break even even if it's not a hit, and be comfortable if it 
does strike a chord.

-K

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 On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  All it takes now is someone with a little money and vision to  
  really start doing it.
 
 
 Some people have been doing this for quite a goddamn while.
 
 Not that anyone scribbling these inane articles cares unless it's  
 McDonald's TV.
 
 
 Good god, Indie TV? Just as awful as Indie Film? PUKE.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Kent Nichols
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Media RSS has not been widely adopted outside of Yahoo.  Look at some
 of the prior posts on here about multiple enclosures.

That's like saying Microsoft Word has not been widely adopted outside
of Microsoft.  Are there competitors?  Sure.  Can it be easier for
people to find and subscribe to feeds, absolutely, but right now
FireAnt and iTunes use mRSS.  Done and done.

 
 Video podcasting does not apply to products like fireAnt that allow
 the blog and feedback that makes a videoblog.

You're right I did not address the interactive potential of video
blogging.  But Video Blogging is still a push media much like
television.  Part of the attraction to video blogs is the
responsiveness from the creators of the shows to the audience.  Emails
and comments can be incorporated into the next show.  Try emailing
your favorite show now and see what happens.


   Once you find a podcast you like, you can tell these programs
  to always download the newest content when it appears on the net.
  
 
 Again, this is only the distribution aspect, not the interaction and
 response capabilities in blogs.
 
 Here and following is shown how to fit into the current model of one
 way television communication, rather than the disruptive change of
 incorporating the ability of linking and comment response in blogging.
  The one-way non-interactive large audience broadcast model hasn't
 evolved, just opened up to more people with less resources.

Yes, exactly.  This opens up creation to practically everyone.  I
still think we're in the middle of evolving the model of how
interactive the media can be, but I've seen studies and heard
anecdotes that people want to be engaged and told a story -- the
dislike too many options or adventures to choose from during an actual
story.

But the interaction after the fact -- emails, comments, etc. -- that
is where the video podcasts are alive.

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Re: [videoblogging] another win for Andrew and Amanda

2005-12-12 Thread David Meade
I'm using eZedia on my vids now and really like it.  however the geek
in me wants to learn how to do it the hard way :-P ...

I like the linkubator tool ... but is there a way to make it just give
me the clicky-tracks so that I can see how it was done?  (especially
the image overlay part)

But back to RB, yeah I like the clicky-ness of it.  It would be cool
to see a little RB rocket in the corner as a visual cue that the video
is clicky or something.  some sort of click me rocket.  This would
indeed remind Tivo viewers that there is a whole interactive thing
goin' on at the website.

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 On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:34:19 +0100, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is also where I'd post a link to the old Quicktime Thingie that could
 add text links to quicktime movies. But after having seen eZedia I would
 use that instead (using images for links instead of text). It just looks
 nicer. URL: http://www.ezedia.com/store/eZediaQTI.html 
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[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kent Nichols
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Media RSS has not been widely adopted outside of Yahoo.  Look at some
  of the prior posts on here about multiple enclosures.
 
 That's like saying Microsoft Word has not been widely adopted outside
 of Microsoft.  Are there competitors?  Sure.  Can it be easier for
 people to find and subscribe to feeds, absolutely, but right now
 FireAnt and iTunes use mRSS.  Done and done.
 

Joshua Kinberg could probably address the usage of media RSS bettter.
 My impression is that most people don't post in multiple enclosures.

  
  Video podcasting does not apply to products like fireAnt that allow
  the blog and feedback that makes a videoblog.
 
 You're right I did not address the interactive potential of video
 blogging.  But Video Blogging is still a push media much like
 television.

Actualy RSS and therefore videoblogs are in a pull mechanism.  The
aggregators have to poll the sites for pulling updates, they're not
notified and pushed content.

  Part of the attraction to video blogs is the
 responsiveness from the creators of the shows to the audience.  Emails
 and comments can be incorporated into the next show.  Try emailing
 your favorite show now and see what happens.
 
 
Once you find a podcast you like, you can tell these programs
   to always download the newest content when it appears on the net.
   
  
  Again, this is only the distribution aspect, not the interaction and
  response capabilities in blogs.
  
  Here and following is shown how to fit into the current model of one
  way television communication, rather than the disruptive change of
  incorporating the ability of linking and comment response in blogging.
   The one-way non-interactive large audience broadcast model hasn't
  evolved, just opened up to more people with less resources.
 
 Yes, exactly.  This opens up creation to practically everyone.  I
 still think we're in the middle of evolving the model of how
 interactive the media can be, but I've seen studies and heard
 anecdotes that people want to be engaged and told a story -- the
 dislike too many options or adventures to choose from during an actual
 story.

I think that's absolutely correct.  And after they've finished seeing
the show they're very motivated to respond:  That's great, I really
love the..., That sucks the way you showed that guy..., etc.

 
 But the interaction after the fact -- emails, comments, etc. -- that
 is where the video podcasts are alive.

Yup!  The more immediately after, the better.  Sometimes people are
into it during.  Like, Hey, why did you bring that character into the
story? (which they may forget by the time it's over.)

 
 -Kent


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:10:52 +0100, Kent Nichols  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Media RSS has not been widely adopted outside of Yahoo.  Look at some
 of the prior posts on here about multiple enclosures.

 That's like saying Microsoft Word has not been widely adopted outside
 of Microsoft.  Are there competitors?  Sure.  Can it be easier for
 people to find and subscribe to feeds, absolutely, but right now
 FireAnt and iTunes use mRSS.  Done and done.

To the best of my knowledge iTunes only supports their own RSS extension,  
not Media RSS. Don't get me wrong, I like Media RSS and was pretty active  
when the original spec was being formulated, but it hasn't gotten wide  
adoption (yet).

 Video podcasting does not apply to products like fireAnt that allow
 the blog and feedback that makes a videoblog.

 You're right I did not address the interactive potential of video
 blogging.  But Video Blogging is still a push media much like
 television.  Part of the attraction to video blogs is the
 responsiveness from the creators of the shows to the audience.  Emails
 and comments can be incorporated into the next show.  Try emailing
 your favorite show now and see what happens.

E-mail is the two-dollar whore of interactivity.
Videoblogging is not a push medium (if it was it would not be blogging),  
and you have to stop thinking of interactivity as 'flying pigs' and Other  
Stuff You Can Click On. There are other types of interactivity. In the  
most basic form video is placed on blogs. Viewers click from blog to blog  
and connects the pieces into wholes. Doesn't work on tv.

 Here and following is shown how to fit into the current model of one
 way television communication, rather than the disruptive change of
 incorporating the ability of linking and comment response in blogging.
  The one-way non-interactive large audience broadcast model hasn't
 evolved, just opened up to more people with less resources.

 Yes, exactly.  This opens up creation to practically everyone.  I
 still think we're in the middle of evolving the model of how
 interactive the media can be, but I've seen studies and heard
 anecdotes that people want to be engaged and told a story -- the
 dislike too many options or adventures to choose from during an actual
 story.

30 minute videos don't work well on the web for a reason. The computer is  
an interactive experience - if you force tv on it it gets really boring  
really fast. Videoblogging isn't about copying the tv concept to the web.  
There are over 22 million blogs tracked by Technorati. People do want to  
create content that fits into an interactive enviroment and they do want  
to consume it because it is valuable. It's not tv, and if you try to force  
a tv concept on it you will fail. Adapt video to the blog concept and you  
will succeed.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Christopher Weagel
Me.

I hate shitty blockbuster films just as much as I hate shitty indie  
films just as much as I hate bullshit dichotomies.

You want to be in show business? Well god bless you.

You tell me what level I should be playing at.

Chris Weagel
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On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Kent Nichols wrote:

 Who is doing what I described?  Producing 100 minutes of show for  
 $150k?  I'd love to talk to them!

 The great thing about video podcasting is that it can scale to  
 every level.  From tiny video diaries to heavily produced shows.   
 You decide which level you're going to play at.

 You rebuke Indie film -- and sure a lot of it is self-absorbed  
 claptrap, but does that mean you only accept summer blockbusters as  
 truly great cinema?  Or do you reject all films?

 What I'm describing is way for people like me who want to be in  
 show business.   This is how to get to the business part using  
 these tools.  To recoup $150,000 you need to sell less than 10,000  
 DVDs.  And with the other revenue models you should be able to  
 break even even if it's not a hit, and be comfortable if it does  
 strike a chord.

 -K

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All it takes now is someone with a little money and vision to
 really start doing it.


 Some people have been doing this for quite a goddamn while.

 Not that anyone scribbling these inane articles cares unless it's
 McDonald's TV.


 Good god, Indie TV? Just as awful as Indie Film? PUKE.

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Re: [videoblogging] another win for Andrew and Amanda

2005-12-12 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:20 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 I'm using eZedia on my vids now and really like it.  however the geek
 in me wants to learn how to do it the hard way :-P ...

I haven't been using eZedia much yet, but I'm really looking forward to  
using it more. At $50 it seems like a steal. It'll do 90% of what I want  
to use LiveStage for but for one tenth of the price. What *I* like about  
it is that I *don't* have to do it the hard way!

 I like the linkubator tool ... but is there a way to make it just give
 me the clicky-tracks so that I can see how it was done?  (especially
 the image overlay part)

Linkubator creates SMIL files. They're text-based, so you can just open  
the file in a text editor (Notepad will work fine) to see what's going on.  
The details are probably a little bit too technical for this list. You can  
email me off-list if you want to know more about the format. It's pretty  
simple.

 But back to RB, yeah I like the clicky-ness of it.  It would be cool
 to see a little RB rocket in the corner as a visual cue that the video
 is clicky or something.  some sort of click me rocket.  This would
 indeed remind Tivo viewers that there is a whole interactive thing
 goin' on at the website.

Personally I would probably send a non-clicky version to the Tivo (with  
URLs shown at the bottom. Old school.). If nothing else because there's  
nothing more frustrating than the promise of a link you can't click. I  
just think of how annoyed I get whenever I click on a dead link. :o)

One of the advantages of Quicktime is that you can have the video as the  
base track and then dump other tracks on top of it (links tracks, bugs,  
flying pigs etc.). It's a big advantage to have things seperated like that.

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Re: [videoblogging] SMIL Question

2005-12-12 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:24:57 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 So my question is this ... If I wanted to use this SMIL stuff on my
 vlog, arent aggregators going to download just the xml file and not
 really the movie file itself?  (the linkubator tool references a
 remote hosted mov file) ... and couldnt this be a problem?

Yes, just the XML will be downloaded and not the movie file. And it  
depends on what you want to do whether this is a problem or not. Generally  
I don't see it as a problem - with Fast Start the click-wait scenario is  
mostly a thing of the past.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread robert a/k/a r
Someone with a geeky predisposition might write a skype plugin so that 
one could assigns a skype-in number to their (wordpress) vlog and with 
a wordpress plugin the audio comments could go directly into the post. 
I guess you would need to indicate a suffix (i.e., and extension) that 
would associate the vlog post with the audio message.

BTW on a different matter, anyone else finding YAHOO mail posts to this 
board slower/worse than ever then past few days, it's completely 
dropped one I sent earlier this afternoon.



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On Dec 12, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:

 Enric wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kent Nichols
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think that's absolutely correct.  And after they've finished seeing
 the show they're very motivated to respond:  That's great, I really
 love the..., That sucks the way you showed that guy..., etc.

 But the interaction after the fact -- emails, comments, etc. -- that
 is where the video podcasts are alive.

 Yup!  The more immediately after, the better.  Sometimes people are
 into it during.  Like, Hey, why did you bring that character into the
 story? (which they may forget by the time it's over.)

 Maybe the videobloggers should follow what many of the podcasters do, 
 at
 the end of the video supply a phone number: Comments on this video?
 Call 206-555-

 Of course it's not exactly as bloggy as text, but you could use the
 calls in a video, or as audio on the site, or in it's own feed, or...
 there are some interesting possibilities I'd imagine...

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Re: [videoblogging] What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread robert a/k/a r
I've found portability to be key.

Whilst I heart my Sony PD150 and the amazing quality, I find I prefer 
to have a camera I can keep in my pocket or backpack all the time. This 
cam takes up too much room in my pack, though if it's a planned shoot I 
don't mind this particularly since it has powered XLR inputs so you can 
easily grab a pair of lavs or shotguns and have great audio too. I 
can't say enough great things about this cam other.

I'm experimenting now with the Canon S80, which has a higher resolution 
video setting than most still cams; my recent post of the cube was shot 
with that camera (though I compressed the heck out of it to put it on 
the interweb but it still looks pretty darn good).
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On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Loiez D. wrote:

 I have a Panasonic NV-GS120
 3CCD
 with a good optic Leica
 This is too small to make good films ( i want to buy an HDV)
 and this his too big ( and expensive) to be alway on my pocket.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread David Meade
Oh one more thing .. the canon digital still (and most digital still I
think) capture the AVIs using the MJPEG codec.  I've run into a few
video editors (Sony Vegas comes to mind) that dont support that ...
there are wasy around this, but FYI.

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 entirely possible...likely even. But even if it does, my issue is with the 
 coolness of slipping a
 teeny camera that does MP4s  in your jeans pocket and hitting the town! My 
 camera is nice
 and compact, but it's not like I can take it absolutely everywhere...

 ...well, I guess I could, actually.
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Re: [videoblogging] true life: i'm a band geek

2005-12-12 Thread David Meade
yeah I sent him an email earlier ... his feed doesnt seem to have
enclosures.  Either needs SmartCast turned on, or the pop-up viewer is
messin' up (since links to the media files aren't in the actual post
body).

I dont use feedburner, but I think there's a simple fix.

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  delve into the world of marching band as my new video takes you behind the 
  scenes for a
  football game performance!
  go san diego state!
  http://www.khoadl.com/2005/12/02-true-life-im-band-geek.html

 subscribed.
 here's his feed:
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/Khoavlog

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[videoblogging] good example of remixing

2005-12-12 Thread Jay dedman
not a videoblog, but someone did tag it so it showed up in my FireAnt:
http://www.aaronvaldez.com/bigscreenversion.mov
from
http://www.aaronvaldez.com/a-two.htm

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[videoblogging] Re: good example of remixing

2005-12-12 Thread Jay dedman
 not a videoblog, but someone did tag it so it showed up in my FireAnt:
 http://www.aaronvaldez.com/bigscreenversion.mov

i take it back.
he does have a videblog:
http://www.aaronvaldez.blogspot.com/

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Re: [videoblogging] SXSW Interactive

2005-12-12 Thread Ted Tagami



There is a good (90% chance) that I'll be there. If there are a few of us, maybe we can set up a vloggers venue?

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Re: [videoblogging] another win for Andrew and Amanda

2005-12-12 Thread WWWhatsup





clicking thru to subscribe to RB on http://blog.tivo.com/

it would seem

1) that they are oversubscribed (what's the linit I wonder?)

2) TIVO are accepting submissions from other vloggers

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[videoblogging] Re: What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Bill Streeter
Oh I totally agree. I was just thinking that if you were interested in
saving some cash on tape you could always opt for the record to card
option. 

I've been thinking about how cool it would be to have a little tiny
camera for video too. I'm actually conflicted about this because I've
been thinking of upgrading my digital still camera and I dunno if I
want to go bigger (as in more professional like one of those new digi
slrs) or smaller (like a little canon that will do decent video).
Choices choices--if only I had the cash to do both.

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969
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 entirely possible...likely even. But even if it does, my issue is
with the coolness of slipping a 
 teeny camera that does MP4s  in your jeans pocket and hitting the
town! My camera is nice 
 and compact, but it's not like I can take it absolutely everywhere...
 
 ...well, I guess I could, actually.
 B
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  I might be wrong about this but that camera might be able to record 
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[videoblogging] Re: What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Bill Streeter
Wow that looked really good! How did you compress that?

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r
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 I've found portability to be key.
 
 Whilst I heart my Sony PD150 and the amazing quality, I find I prefer 
 to have a camera I can keep in my pocket or backpack all the time. This 
 cam takes up too much room in my pack, though if it's a planned shoot I 
 don't mind this particularly since it has powered XLR inputs so you can 
 easily grab a pair of lavs or shotguns and have great audio too. I 
 can't say enough great things about this cam other.
 
 I'm experimenting now with the Canon S80, which has a higher resolution 
 video setting than most still cams; my recent post of the cube was shot 
 with that camera (though I compressed the heck out of it to put it on 
 the interweb but it still looks pretty darn good).
 http://www.24x7.com/blog/2005-11/cube-astor-place/
 
 
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 On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Loiez D. wrote:
 
  I have a Panasonic NV-GS120
  3CCD
  with a good optic Leica
  This is too small to make good films ( i want to buy an HDV)
  and this his too big ( and expensive) to be alway on my pocket.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Joan Khoo



I have a little canon which does excellent stills and videos. Be warned
though that the 576 card (or something like that) can only take up to 3
mins of video. But its well worth it in terms of size and being able to
carry it around.
Joan
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On 12/13/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh I totally agree. I was just thinking that if you were interested insaving some cash on tape you could always opt for the record to cardoption.I've been thinking about how cool it would be to have a little tiny
camera for video too. I'm actually conflicted about this because I'vebeen thinking of upgrading my digital still camera and I dunno if Iwant to go bigger (as in more professional like one of those new digi
slrs) or smaller (like a little canon that will do decent video).Choices choices--if only I had the cash to do both.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: entirely possible...likely even. But even if it does, my issue is
with the coolness of slipping a teeny camera that does MP4sin your jeans pocket and hitting thetown! My camera is nice and compact, but it's not like I can take it absolutely everywhere...
 ...well, I guess I could, actually. B http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
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[videoblogging] understanding stats....

2005-12-12 Thread Share
okay. i'm confused about the stats on videoblogs and am hoping someone
can explain it a bit more to me.
we use blip.tv to upload our media. on their site, i can view how many
people have viewed each piece. 
then, we have feedburner as well.

why are the two numbers s different?

for example: on blip, one episode mov/windows combined shows over 2000
downloads but the feedburner feed only shows around 150 in a 24 hour
period.

even considering that there could 150 for 3 days running (how long
it's been up for), it still
doesn't add up to over 2000 viewers. this is where i'm completely baffled.

can anyone explain this to me in layperson terms?

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[videoblogging] Vimeo / No such thing as an objective viewpoint video clip

2005-12-12 Thread Steve Garfield
I love this video:

http://www.vimeo.com/clip=26638

Steven Greenstreet just sent this to me.

I watched the first 13 minutes and the best part is these 17 seconds. I 
could watch this all day long.

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Re: [videoblogging] another win for Andrew and Amanda

2005-12-12 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:34:19 +0100, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The new video formatting in rocketboom is fantastic, and is precisely  
 where
 video needs to go.  Very exciting stuff.

I'm glad Andrew listened even though he was very offended when I said  
rocketboom video could get more bloggy. :o)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Knight


I have always said that Rocketboom is too good for vlogging.  Good luck to all at rocketboom, I just wish you well.On 12 Dec 2005, at 16:34, Enric wrote:  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   We have crossed a milestone with this weekend's  announcementhttp://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/arts/television/11mack.html?ex=1291957200en=902af87c8ba6ddf4ei=5090partner=rssuserlandemc=rssthat  TiVo has entered into an agreement with the popular web show  Rocketboom http://rocketboom.com.  Finally a model for independent  television is upon us.Right now the television shows are developed by a handful of trusted  writer/producers in Hollywood who have become trusted enough to pitch there  show ideas to the Networks.  They've gained this trust by working on other  television shows or by being incredibly success in another medium such as  film, or books, or porn.  If you're not one of these trusted people, the  networks will not talk to you about your ideas.These pitches are then considered by the network suits and a few are chosen  to be turned into full fledged pilot scripts.  These scripts are then read  and fewer still are made into actual pilots and then the best pilots make it  to air where most of them fail to generate the 8-15 million viewers required  to stay on the air.In the last year with maturity of mRSS  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRSS  Media RSS has not been widely adopted outside of Yahoo.  Look at some of the prior posts on here about multiple enclosures.  and the wide dispersal of  high-quality digital video production tools, video  podcasting has exploded.  For the new kids on the block, video podcasting  allows programs like iTunes http://apple.com/itunes and  FireAnthttp://getfireant.comto automatically download video content.  "Video podcasting" does not apply to products like fireAnt that allow the blog and feedback that makes a videoblog.    It's like signing up for a season  pass on TiVo.  fireAnt, mefeedia, etc. allow linking and response, unlike TiVo.    Once you find a podcast you like, you can tell these programs  to always download the newest content when it appears on the net.Again, this is only the distribution aspect, not the interaction and response capabilities in blogs.   That's the groundwork, and now with this TiVo deal you can add that same  sort of functionality to your television set through TiVo.Great.  But how does that change anything?  Well, it changes things because  it gives TiVo an incentive to make other deals with indie producers so that  they can distinguish themselves from the generic PVR boxes more and more  cable and satellite providers are giving to their customers.  Here and following is shown how to fit into the current model of one way television communication, rather than the disruptive change of incorporating the ability of linking and comment response in blogging. The one-way non-interactive large audience broadcast model hasn't evolved, just opened up to more people with less resources.    -- Enric      http://www.cirne.com   Determine the Media It also will allow for a model where indie producers will have incentive to  create longer DVD-length pilots for their shows on the cheap.  Why go to a  big network that's just going to shit all over your idea when you can  produce your own content the way you want it and then take it to the network  when you have built a following through TiVo and iTunes.  If you can prove  your show is being watched by a million people, you're getting close to what  the average viewership is on basic cable.How will the producers make money?  Subscribers, DVD sales, and small  interactive ads for the people who don't subscribe.  The subscribers is a  simple extension of how people pay for cable today.  ESPN gets around $2.50  out of your monthly cable bill to support it's programming.  That works out  to $30 a year and about eight cents for each day's Sports Center.If you charge people $5 or $10 a year to subscribe to your entire archive  and get extra content and early access to your new shows you should see a  fairly sizable subscriber base (10%-ish).  It's important to not that you  still give away your content freely on the net and TiVo, but you just charge  a reasonable fee for subscription and you treat your free customers with  respect.The market for DVDs is impressive.  Sales of TV show DVD is very strong, and  it costs under $2 to physically produce a DVD.  Add the usual bevvy of  special features and DVD only content and you should be able to sell enough  discs to recoup your costs with a healthy profit.Advertising.  Again this should not be intrusive.  But a simple ad at the  end of your content will bring in enough money to fund the project and not  be annoying to the viewers.  And this ad would not appear on the  subscriber's content, this would only be for your free viewers.So that's where the money comes from, but where does the content 

[videoblogging] Re: from Tokyo, what vlogging should be...

2005-12-12 Thread Enric
Funny!

  ;)

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 Here is a quick forum...
 what a handful of folks across Japan think about
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[videoblogging] Re: Embed Html in Wordpress

2005-12-12 Thread LeanBackVids.com
The TextControl plugin will do the trick and works great...
http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/TextControl

More WP plugins here...
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[videoblogging] Re: What camera should I ask Santa for?

2005-12-12 Thread Tim Stotz
Some of Sony's new hi-def options are cool. and cheaper, smaller than you might 
think.  
and they downconvert to sd quite easilty.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I've found portability to be key.
 
 Whilst I heart my Sony PD150 and the amazing quality, I find I prefer 
 to have a camera I can keep in my pocket or backpack all the time. This 
 cam takes up too much room in my pack, though if it's a planned shoot I 
 don't mind this particularly since it has powered XLR inputs so you can 
 easily grab a pair of lavs or shotguns and have great audio too. I 
 can't say enough great things about this cam other.
 
 I'm experimenting now with the Canon S80, which has a higher resolution 
 video setting than most still cams; my recent post of the cube was shot 
 with that camera (though I compressed the heck out of it to put it on 
 the interweb but it still looks pretty darn good).
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 On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Loiez D. wrote:
 
  I have a Panasonic NV-GS120
  3CCD
  with a good optic Leica
  This is too small to make good films ( i want to buy an HDV)
  and this his too big ( and expensive) to be alway on my pocket.
 
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[videoblogging] New here. hi.

2005-12-12 Thread Tim Stotz
I have a video blog (I call it a VODcast) that's been going for a while at 
timstotz.com/vodcast 
(and soon at theprogrum.com.)

I am getting off on gandering at all of your stuff.

Take care.

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Re: [videoblogging] SMIL Question

2005-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan



If you use SMIL, great... but dont let it be some sort of replacement for serving the video files directly too.SMIL can be fun to experiment with and is also used for playlists (ie. vlogdir videoblog playlists).
sullOn 12/12/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So a previous post got me thinking and I started to do some researchinto SMIL.I figured this must be how the image overlay worked fromthe linkubator tool and opened up the mov it saved me in a texteditor.Sure enough ... xml :-)
So my question is this ... If I wanted to use this SMIL stuff on myvlog, arent aggregators going to download just the xml file and notreally the movie file itself?(the linkubator tool references aremote hosted mov file) ... and couldnt this be a problem?
I've seen some 'interactive' movies with constant lag like symptomsand I'm guessing its related ... that the file keeps gettinre-downloaded each time the small xml file is viewed rather thangettin played locally.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SXSW Interactive

2005-12-12 Thread Steve Garfield
Isn't Verdi on this panel?

We Got Naked, Now What?

On Dec 12, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Chuck Olsen wrote:

 http://2006.sxsw.com/interactive/programming/panels/

 Hmm, many panels look good but I don't see anything on videoblogs?!

 Last year's vlog panel was deeply flawed, but at least they had one.
 I sent Hugh a long email this year explaining what I'd like to see
 in a vlog panel and got no response. Too bad.

 I believe Verdi stood up last year from the audience and told the crowd
 Next year, half this freakin' conference is gonna be about vlogs!
 Alas, twas not to be.

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[videoblogging] Re: SXSW Interactive

2005-12-12 Thread JD Lasica
I'm moderating a panel on Darknets at sxsw on March 14, and Dave Toole
will be a panelist, so that's 2 more in the vlogging corner ... we
should definitely do a get-together!

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Joshua Kinberg
  Joshua Kinberg could probably address the usage of media RSS bettter.

I have a feeling that the person misused the term Media RSS. I don't
think they were referring to the Media RSS specification developed
collaboratively by Yahoo! and others. I think they were simply
referring to the process of syndicating media via RSS.

Unfortunately, MRSS as a spec is not flourishing and I haven't seen
all that much commitment to it even from Yahoo! It really shows the
power of developing supporting software when it comes to propagating
adoption. The iTunes spec is a lump of steaming turd. But because it
is supported by iTunes creators bend over backwards despite the
annoyance (there is very little in the iTunes spec that isn't already
in RSS to begin with, or had started to gain traction because of the
groundwork done by Yahoo with MRSS... reinvent the wheel much,
Apple?). If Yahoo! had developed, or helped develop technology to
publish MRSS and made that easier, then we probably would have seen
more adoption... maybe we still will see this, but it seems to have
been stunted a bit.

-Josh


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: The Indie TV Movement is Here

2005-12-12 Thread Joshua Kinberg
 However Media RSS wasn't designed to replace or embellish what we
 the public know and love as syndication and distribution (at least
 from what I read at the time, and from the design of the schema). It
 was designed primarily for the more traditional meaning
 of syndication, large media outlets pushing media streams to
 affiliates, which includes program guide metadata. Think broadband TV
 providers digitally pushing content to an affiliate station.

I really think it was designed to accomodate both.

-Josh



On 12/12/05, Richard Bennett-Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Joshua Kinberg could probably address the usage of media RSS
 bettter.
 Unfortunately, MRSS as a spec is not flourishing and I haven't seen
 all that much commitment to it even from Yahoo!

 I'm not sure if people are expecting Media RSS to suddenly pop up in
 the blogosphere wilderness or not. When it was announced, a lot of
 people who should probably know better, got excited about it
 pervading our space.

 However Media RSS wasn't designed to replace or embellish what we
 the public know and love as syndication and distribution (at least
 from what I read at the time, and from the design of the schema). It
 was designed primarily for the more traditional meaning
 of syndication, large media outlets pushing media streams to
 affiliates, which includes program guide metadata. Think broadband TV
 providers digitally pushing content to an affiliate station.

 So Media RSS may well not be flourishing, but we mustn't make that
 judgement on whether we've seen it pop up on peoples' web sites,
 because it wasn't designed for that. (again, based on what the
 schema looks like, and what was announced by Yahoo! at the time)

 Regards,
  Richard







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[videoblogging] Teaching seniors videoblogging

2005-12-12 Thread Joan Khoo



Hi everyone,
I've been toying with the idea of being a volunteer trainer for seniors who want to learn to use computers. 
However I'm not sure how much time I can commit to being a trainer.
After emailing a secretary of one such clubs, they've suggested giving
a talk instead on certain softwares (e.g. using photoshop or word). I
would like some feedback on what you think of this idea? I've been
tossing the idea around but don't really know how to go about it. 
Cheers,
Joan
http://rantingsofjoan.blogspot.com


  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Offensive Police Video

2005-12-12 Thread teaspace
I was of course just re-iterating a point from the wonderful nyc.node101 
anthology on blip.tv, because it was relevant to the discussion.  Who is 
the blue-haired English fellow who said it, by the way?

Regurgitation is something I haven't practiced since my exam-writing 
days, although I hear it's popular in countries where pickled herring is 
consumed :)


Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:21:04 +0100, teaspace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Privacy is dead.
 
 
 Regurgitated one-liners are useless.
 


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