Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with that and they're not related to your project in any case Neither do mine, but they are all related, if your passion is video. There are stories to be told about all kinds of things - dog sports, outrigger racing, geocaching, brewing beer, I've touched on a couple of things that some people here have interest in. What if I were in Fiji during a large outrigger event and decided to shoot it? If rambo were aware of it and selling pay to play short videos for say, $2, then I could have a 50/50 split with him. A dollar a video. Video gets 200 hits, I make a hundred bucks - do this with rambo, a dog sport site, a brewmeister, a winery, a gaming community, or some other well developed community interest that is doing pay to play, and you've made yourself a thousand dollars for 20 minutes of video on ten outings. There's no reason this could not be done with ad revenue either. I should be able to do well with ads placed on free video and our live radio (online) and audio podcasts. I don't think it's a bad deal, and it's residual. It keeps coming in if the community has staying power. Of course it's not there yet, nobody's doing pay to play, but we will be, and we'll be doing it faster and better if people like those on this list are involved. And let's be serious, it's not like there's anything coming down the pike from Coca Cola or GM for advertising on independent media. The future of independent media is to hook up with cottage media entities and independent mom pop operations and fill their needs for content and advertising. I don't want to beat a dead horse, though, and I can see that there's little interest on the list in entertaining the concept of making money through profit sharing with community developers and small businesses. It's a bummer though. It could be the big thing that makes producing independent video profitable, or at least not a total money pit. It also could put different kinds of creative people in the same room and on the same page fostering who knows what kind of exciting possibilities. I appreciate your responses, Kath. Good luck in all you do. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: 2009/1/7 Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com: Well, have you found something that is your passion that is for sale? most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with that and they're not related to your project in any case maybe ask people on the dog lists - the true fans in your area as u mentioned? or if they don't make videos - have some training workshops and teach them first. Brook had some great advice. the idea would work. I know an ex-colleague did this in late 90s-current with AFL football videos on a website is making a great living out of it - granted he was a tv sports cameraman and knew all the teams players and advertisers could partner with the tv broadcaster too + go on o/s tours etc and do exclusive interviews etc for a subscription site that many people subscribe to. (I'm not a fan myself so don't pay for his videos). at the time he just hooked up with a web person to build the site. another of the station's weekly shows (produced externally but aligned with the station) did a similar site for weather, surfing fishing reports (video/text) special reports (as he's a leader in this field in his region - he's a known personality for past 30years or so on tv) in late 90s too is still going. best of luck with it. I'm sure you'll do well. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
It definitely something I'm looking at Ron. There were 700 mostly international paddlers competing at that event in the Cook Islands over 10 days and all of them are potential customers as they want to see themselves competing and relive the fun they had at the event. The organizers employed me to shoot video from a jet ski and land to play back at the presentations and pubs on a big projection screen each nite to attract the paddlers to the sponsors venue, the Trader Jacks Bar and Restaurant. The footage was raw straight from the camera so it just played clip after clip and was actually pretty good. Then from all that footage I have to compile a DVD. But putting it online and charging per download would be cheaper for everyone. Sure there is still the problem of people sharing downloads, but they do the same with DVD's anyway. But if it was say $2 per download, I doubt many people would bother copying and sharing it. It also gives the sponsors more exposure by having subtle ads within the video, which could also be another income stream. I'm already capturing video of events for Surf ski, outrigger paddling and stand up paddling and supplying footage or finished media to other web sites, but it's kind of specialized and I have participated in these events for over 20 years. If I had to video a dog show, I would not have a clue on what to do, so I don't see how a community effort would be advantageous. But I'm all ears. Cheers Rambo Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Watson Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 7:12 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with that and they're not related to your project in any case Neither do mine, but they are all related, if your passion is video. There are stories to be told about all kinds of things - dog sports, outrigger racing, geocaching, brewing beer, I've touched on a couple of things that some people here have interest in. What if I were in Fiji during a large outrigger event and decided to shoot it? If rambo were aware of it and selling pay to play short videos for say, $2, then I could have a 50/50 split with him. A dollar a video. Video gets 200 hits, I make a hundred bucks - do this with rambo, a dog sport site, a brewmeister, a winery, a gaming community, or some other well developed community interest that is doing pay to play, and you've made yourself a thousand dollars for 20 minutes of video on ten outings. There's no reason this could not be done with ad revenue either. I should be able to do well with ads placed on free video and our live radio (online) and audio podcasts. I don't think it's a bad deal, and it's residual. It keeps coming in if the community has staying power. Of course it's not there yet, nobody's doing pay to play, but we will be, and we'll be doing it faster and better if people like those on this list are involved. And let's be serious, it's not like there's anything coming down the pike from Coca Cola or GM for advertising on independent media. The future of independent media is to hook up with cottage media entities and independent mom pop operations and fill their needs for content and advertising. I don't want to beat a dead horse, though, and I can see that there's little interest on the list in entertaining the concept of making money through profit sharing with community developers and small businesses. It's a bummer though. It could be the big thing that makes producing independent video profitable, or at least not a total money pit. It also could put different kinds of creative people in the same room and on the same page fostering who knows what kind of exciting possibilities. I appreciate your responses, Kath. Good luck in all you do. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc. http://k9disc.blip.tv blip.tv http://k9disc. http://k9disc.com com http://discdogradio http://discdogradio.com .com http://pawsitivevyb http://pawsitivevybe.com e.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: 2009/1/7 Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com mailto:k9disc%40mac.com : Well, have you found something that is your passion that is for sale? most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with that and they're not related to your project in any case maybe ask people on the dog lists - the true fans in your area as u mentioned? or if they don't make videos - have some training workshops and teach them first. Brook had some great advice. the idea would work. I know an ex-colleague did this in late 90s-current with AFL football videos on a website is making a great living out of it - granted he was a tv sports cameraman and knew all the teams players and advertisers could partner with the tv broadcaster too
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
There are tremendous opportunities with this kind of stuff, Rambo. I'm already capturing video of events for Surf ski, outrigger paddling and stand up paddling and supplying footage or finished media to other web sites, but it's kind of specialized and I have participated in these events for over 20 years. If I had to video a dog show, I would not have a clue on what to do, so I don't see how a community effort would be advantageous. Well, there is a lot more overlap than you'd think in shooting flying dogs and shredding surfers. Simple things like not zooming constantly, white balancing choosing the best place to set up so the crowd is visible. So, I do think there would be some possibilities there, but it might not be for you. You've got a schtick, a niche market. I'd actually see you more as the community curator, farming out the work to wet video people on the coasts, as opposed to shooting dog stuff for me. I'd be more likely to shoot a paddling session on Lake Michigan for you, and if you had a good track record of selling vids online, I'd probably do it - I like paddling (lived on Oahu for a few years - kind of majored in surfing and scuba), and it wouldn't be that much of a big deal to go shoot some nice stuff then cut it and upload it to your site. Then you cut checks to me as the videos fly out of the server. It would be a nice supplement to my personal economy. All it would really take are the technical skills to get the job done - good in low light? Shoot some band stuff at local bars to supplement your wedding videography business. Good at shooting high action sport? Shoot some dog video for my site. Good at getting telling story? Shoot it all! I'm with you Rambo. I think pay to play could be big in 2009. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Rambos Locker wrote: It definitely something I'm looking at Ron. There were 700 mostly international paddlers competing at that event in the Cook Islands over 10 days and all of them are potential customers as they want to see themselves competing and relive the fun they had at the event. The organizers employed me to shoot video from a jet ski and land to play back at the presentations and pubs on a big projection screen each nite to attract the paddlers to the sponsors venue, the Trader Jacks Bar and Restaurant. The footage was raw straight from the camera so it just played clip after clip and was actually pretty good. Then from all that footage I have to compile a DVD. But putting it online and charging per download would be cheaper for everyone. Sure there is still the problem of people sharing downloads, but they do the same with DVD's anyway. But if it was say $2 per download, I doubt many people would bother copying and sharing it. It also gives the sponsors more exposure by having subtle ads within the video, which could also be another income stream. I'm already capturing video of events for Surf ski, outrigger paddling and stand up paddling and supplying footage or finished media to other web sites, but it's kind of specialized and I have participated in these events for over 20 years. If I had to video a dog show, I would not have a clue on what to do, so I don't see how a community effort would be advantageous. But I'm all ears. Cheers Rambo Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Watson Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 7:12 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with that and they're not related to your project in any case Neither do mine, but they are all related, if your passion is video. There are stories to be told about all kinds of things - dog sports, outrigger racing, geocaching, brewing beer, I've touched on a couple of things that some people here have interest in. What if I were in Fiji during a large outrigger event and decided to shoot it? If rambo were aware of it and selling pay to play short videos for say, $2, then I could have a 50/50 split with him. A dollar a video. Video gets 200 hits, I make a hundred bucks - do this with rambo, a dog sport site, a brewmeister, a winery, a gaming community, or some other well developed community interest that is doing pay to play, and you've made yourself a thousand dollars for 20 minutes of video on ten outings. There's no reason this could not be done with ad revenue either. I should be able to do well with ads placed on free video and our live radio (online) and audio podcasts. I don't think it's a bad deal, and it's residual. It keeps coming in if the community has staying power. Of course it's not
[videoblogging] Blip feature request/is it already there?
Hey, How do I turn off the thumbnails/suggestions in the end of my videos in Blip? How do I stop people from clicking to other videos in the end? Have a great 2009, Miguel.
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
Gee I don't get much of a chance to set white balance, focus and compose the shots on the back of a Jet Ski. I just put the Canon HF100 in Easy mode press record and hang on.hahaha But seriously, there are plenty of people who buy paddling magazines every month to catch up on the events around the world so why not pay for online content but in video form. I guess it's about changing peoples media habits from one to the other. For me video has far more impact and content, and is entertaining. Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Watson Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 8:08 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews There are tremendous opportunities with this kind of stuff, Rambo. I'm already capturing video of events for Surf ski, outrigger paddling and stand up paddling and supplying footage or finished media to other web sites, but it's kind of specialized and I have participated in these events for over 20 years. If I had to video a dog show, I would not have a clue on what to do, so I don't see how a community effort would be advantageous. Well, there is a lot more overlap than you'd think in shooting flying dogs and shredding surfers. Simple things like not zooming constantly, white balancing choosing the best place to set up so the crowd is visible. So, I do think there would be some possibilities there, but it might not be for you. You've got a schtick, a niche market. I'd actually see you more as the community curator, farming out the work to wet video people on the coasts, as opposed to shooting dog stuff for me. I'd be more likely to shoot a paddling session on Lake Michigan for you, and if you had a good track record of selling vids online, I'd probably do it - I like paddling (lived on Oahu for a few years - kind of majored in surfing and scuba), and it wouldn't be that much of a big deal to go shoot some nice stuff then cut it and upload it to your site. Then you cut checks to me as the videos fly out of the server. It would be a nice supplement to my personal economy. All it would really take are the technical skills to get the job done - good in low light? Shoot some band stuff at local bars to supplement your wedding videography business. Good at shooting high action sport? Shoot some dog video for my site. Good at getting telling story? Shoot it all! I'm with you Rambo. I think pay to play could be big in 2009. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc. http://k9disc.blip.tv blip.tv http://k9disc. http://k9disc.com com http://discdogradio http://discdogradio.com .com http://pawsitivevyb http://pawsitivevybe.com e.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Rambos Locker wrote: It definitely something I'm looking at Ron. There were 700 mostly international paddlers competing at that event in the Cook Islands over 10 days and all of them are potential customers as they want to see themselves competing and relive the fun they had at the event. The organizers employed me to shoot video from a jet ski and land to play back at the presentations and pubs on a big projection screen each nite to attract the paddlers to the sponsors venue, the Trader Jacks Bar and Restaurant. The footage was raw straight from the camera so it just played clip after clip and was actually pretty good. Then from all that footage I have to compile a DVD. But putting it online and charging per download would be cheaper for everyone. Sure there is still the problem of people sharing downloads, but they do the same with DVD's anyway. But if it was say $2 per download, I doubt many people would bother copying and sharing it. It also gives the sponsors more exposure by having subtle ads within the video, which could also be another income stream. I'm already capturing video of events for Surf ski, outrigger paddling and stand up paddling and supplying footage or finished media to other web sites, but it's kind of specialized and I have participated in these events for over 20 years. If I had to video a dog show, I would not have a clue on what to do, so I don't see how a community effort would be advantageous. But I'm all ears. Cheers Rambo Cheers Rambo http://rambos- http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Watson Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 7:12 PM To: videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with that and they're not related to your project in any case Neither do mine, but they are all
Re: [videoblogging] Blip feature request/is it already there?
How do I turn off the thumbnails/suggestions in the end of my videos in Blip? How do I stop people from clicking to other videos in the end? If yo use the blip Show Player, then I think it automatically brings up the thumbnails at the end for the next videos. Someone else may know how to turn this off. I think you can also program it to just show vieos that you have made. But you can also just embed the single video itself. Use the Legacy player in the embed options on the right side of your blip page. This will just play the single video. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Help! I'm Blogged Out.
Have you tried deleting blogger cookies? Something may have happened which is confusing your login process. -- David Terranova www.davidterranova.com | blog.davidterranova.com | www.rebelrave.tv From: paulvideoprez paulvideop...@yahoo.com Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:30:37 - To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Help! I'm Blogged Out. Thanks! I have not been able to break through on the problem. It's been a cycle of Blogger sending me a message saying click to to change your password and I respond and get a statement they're sending me a message and I respond to it and it continues. I have found no opening to either obtain and change a password. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM, paulvideoprez paulvideop...@... wrote: I have an account with blogger. Indeed, that's the sight of my videoblog. Today I could not access it. Blogger would not accept me. I used my standard information which I have written down. I sort of could reset, but that resetting ignors my ongoing, working videoblog. It's a new start with nothing there. Hey Paul-- I'll be glad to help you with your issue offlist. Sometimes Blogger has issues. We'll get you squared away. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
All right. I'm getting it. Let's just say - for instance - my dad's one of the top border collie working dog kinda trainers on the planet. Or was when he was doing it full time. He's got a lotta knowhow - having studied for years with Grand champion Highland Shepherd Jock Murray - and I could easily get 10 3-minute pieces of him talking about the old ways. That would appeal to your niche, no? Is THAT what you're talking about? Jan [Snip] Does nobody see what I am seeing here? If you, as a video producer (shoot, cut, encode) were to hook up with people like me and create 50 videos for a rabid community like mine, or more likely 10 videos for me and 10 videos for five other sites like mine, and sold 200 units on each of them at $1 profit per, that's $10K. I think the key is to get hooked up with people who know their niche and have a solid community. They can fill you in on what will do well. I see this as a great hookup for the online video world. It could immediately create all kinds of strong independent media opportunities. It could create a new, non-ad-based media market, where only the passionate play - passionate content creator, the passionate producer/ curator and the passionate viewer. I'd really like to see this happen. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:38 PM, liza jean wrote: we use e-junkie.com for our digital download provider. monthly rent for your library no matter how many (or few) you sell. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9d...@... wrote: I'm kicking around an idea for a pay to play jam session video application. World class disc dog events are held in every region of the country several times per year. The same can be said of agility and flyball tournaments as well as rally-obedience and dock diving. I'd like to sell good footage (or production pieces) a la carte, pay to play-style with revenue share for the talent. I think that's pretty much the concept. I could see 10,000 users on my site when completed. With high quality content, I think it's a sure thing. Training video's $5-10 for 5-10 minutes. Jamming videos 2 minutes - $2-4, or god forbid we make them collectors items! I'll also be bringing in vendors for hard-goods sales - all the vendors and trainers and businesses that service the dog sport community and taking a cut of their sales generated by the site. Big money advertising is an afterthought. So, my question is would any of you be interested in profit sharing for projects such as a training video or jam session (could be 10 great jam sessions in a big contest), and if so, how do we get working together? I know it's not much money straight away, but at $1 profit a video, if you had 30 videos that did 1000 views, that'd be $30k. If the right niche markets were hit with the right people setting up communities and creating content this could be a viable alternative to corporate media. Any thoughts? Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Help! I'm Blogged Out.
I had not the same, but similar problem. Some of this technique may help: http://fauxpress.blogspot.com/2007/03/bloggers-indentified-faux-press-as-spam.html Good luck! Make sure you add a second email account @ gmail so you're notified if someone logs in as you and that email has to authorize any changes. Jan On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:33 AM, David Terranova da...@davidterranova.com wrote: Have you tried deleting blogger cookies? Something may have happened which is confusing your login process. -- David Terranova www.davidterranova.com | blog.davidterranova.com | www.rebelrave.tv From: paulvideoprez paulvideop...@yahoo.com Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:30:37 - To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Help! I'm Blogged Out. Thanks! I have not been able to break through on the problem. It's been a cycle of Blogger sending me a message saying click to to change your password and I respond and get a statement they're sending me a message and I respond to it and it continues. I have found no opening to either obtain and change a password. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM, paulvideoprez paulvideop...@... wrote: I have an account with blogger. Indeed, that's the sight of my videoblog. Today I could not access it. Blogger would not accept me. I used my standard information which I have written down. I sort of could reset, but that resetting ignors my ongoing, working videoblog. It's a new start with nothing there. Hey Paul-- I'll be glad to help you with your issue offlist. Sometimes Blogger has issues. We'll get you squared away. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
yes. Most definitely. Profits split down the middle. That's a great angle, Jan, having a family member trip your awareness about the stories sitting around you, but it's doesn't just have to be those angles. I could see conferences and expositions being good content for this kind of gig. Parkour, skating, surfing, inline, would probably rock in terms of jamming video. My project, is really focused on training, but the other day I thought of jams and jam sessions, and thought a profit sharing set up might be a good gig for all. Then I read Rosenbaum's article, and thought that the profit share could be a good catalyst for rapid development of independent media. Combine that with local and well placed niche ads, and I think it's a winner for everybody: producer, content creator, vendors and interested viewers. Let me know if you are interested in following up on the project, and if your dad's game, it might be nice to have him on our radio show when we do a herding segment sometime. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: All right. I'm getting it. Let's just say - for instance - my dad's one of the top border collie working dog kinda trainers on the planet. Or was when he was doing it full time. He's got a lotta knowhow - having studied for years with Grand champion Highland Shepherd Jock Murray - and I could easily get 10 3-minute pieces of him talking about the old ways. That would appeal to your niche, no? Is THAT what you're talking about? Jan [Snip] Does nobody see what I am seeing here? If you, as a video producer (shoot, cut, encode) were to hook up with people like me and create 50 videos for a rabid community like mine, or more likely 10 videos for me and 10 videos for five other sites like mine, and sold 200 units on each of them at $1 profit per, that's $10K. I think the key is to get hooked up with people who know their niche and have a solid community. They can fill you in on what will do well. I see this as a great hookup for the online video world. It could immediately create all kinds of strong independent media opportunities. It could create a new, non-ad-based media market, where only the passionate play - passionate content creator, the passionate producer/ curator and the passionate viewer. I'd really like to see this happen. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:38 PM, liza jean wrote: we use e-junkie.com for our digital download provider. monthly rent for your library no matter how many (or few) you sell. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9d...@... wrote: I'm kicking around an idea for a pay to play jam session video application. World class disc dog events are held in every region of the country several times per year. The same can be said of agility and flyball tournaments as well as rally-obedience and dock diving. I'd like to sell good footage (or production pieces) a la carte, pay to play-style with revenue share for the talent. I think that's pretty much the concept. I could see 10,000 users on my site when completed. With high quality content, I think it's a sure thing. Training video's $5-10 for 5-10 minutes. Jamming videos 2 minutes - $2-4, or god forbid we make them collectors items! I'll also be bringing in vendors for hard-goods sales - all the vendors and trainers and businesses that service the dog sport community and taking a cut of their sales generated by the site. Big money advertising is an afterthought. So, my question is would any of you be interested in profit sharing for projects such as a training video or jam session (could be 10 great jam sessions in a big contest), and if so, how do we get working together? I know it's not much money straight away, but at $1 profit a video, if you had 30 videos that did 1000 views, that'd be $30k. If the right niche markets were hit with the right people setting up communities and creating content this could be a viable alternative to corporate media. Any thoughts? Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Would love your input
There are all very helpful thoughts. Thanks. Would love to hear how you view it on your phone and what phone you are using! Appreciate the help! John www.triponadeal.com A weekly webcast of vacation ideas and unbiased travel deals --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pope Hal Tse Kometes KSC hal...@... wrote: Greetings John, Firstly looks good, like the intro, graphics, content and would watch more of these . Short enough, looks good on full size monitor( will try it later on a phone) The sound for the presenters is panned hard to a single channel which is a little off putting, I wear my cans half cocked at work so all I was hearing was the music, effects until I realized what was happening it's particularly off putting during the You Tube clip which has the sound on both channels and gets in the way of the dialog. I can't believe it's a deliberate choice given the quality of the rest of the show but i Lastly the ending. The fair use titles are pretty meaningless as far as any culpability is concerned and maybe your own logo, promotion ending on the URL is more beneficial? best of luck with the new show. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, triponadeal jp@ wrote: Hello all. I am an ex-TV producer who is attempted a foray into your world. We have just started our first weekly show called Trip on a Deal and would love your input. What do you think? Good content? Length? Delivery? You can find the show at triponadeal.com or on most video hosting sites (blip, youtube, revver, etc). We're still working on the trip on a deal site ... hope to debut a travel related social network to surround the show soon. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks for your help. John Palacio jp@ http://www.triponadeal.com twitter.com/triponadeal
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
I don't want to beat a dead horse, though, and I can see that there's little interest on the list in entertaining the concept of making money through profit sharing with community developers and small businesses. It's a bummer though. It could be the big thing that makes producing independent video profitable, or at least not a total money pit. It also could put different kinds of creative people in the same room and on the same page fostering who knows what kind of exciting possibilities. I think you just need to change your strategy. Why approach this group who aren't passionate about dog training? Just not something I want to spend my time doing for any amount of money. BUT I'm sure you know a whole community of dog lovers who now have access to cameras. Harness them to gather video for you. I'm sure they'd love some bucks, but passionate hobbyists often just do it because they love it. I'm also certain that it'll be easier to get people to record video and send it to you...then actually getting the to edit the videos as well. Editing videos is where the real time and skill is. Then you would need to talk serious money because editing video is not a light task. I personally don't think Michael Rosenbaum's article is very groundbreaking. Porn has done the pay for download thing for years. We all could have been doing it as well. Is this THE YEAR when people start paying for non-porn content? Doubtful. Because it's so easy to get free content online...and folks usually just route around pay to view barriers, a more likely scenario is that people will give you money just because they want to support the content. They WANT to support you vs they HAVE to pay you to watch. It's the NPR model vs the Comcast model. A small, but committed, fan base will fund you because they know that if they don't, you wont exist. This means your creations must be really important to them so take chances and make the things no one else is or can. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
[videoblogging] Re: Blip feature request/is it already there?
How do I turn off the thumbnails/suggestions in the end of my videos in Blip? How do I stop people from clicking to other videos in the end? If yo use the blip Show Player, then I think it automatically brings up the thumbnails at the end for the next videos. Someone else may know how to turn this off. I think you can also program it to just show vieos that you have made. But you can also just embed the single video itself. Use the Legacy player in the embed options on the right side of your blip page. This will just play the single video. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Jay you´re right about the legacy player but... (theres always a but somewhere) Blip is warning users that they will probably discontinue the legacy player. Also, I really like the showplayer, just don´t want the final thumbs to other videos. I double checked the show player settings and couldn´t find a way to do it. Vimeo supports this feature, but in theyr pro accounts only. And I´m a cheap bastard ;). Any thoughts? Also, why isn´t blip answering in the blip yahoo group? Miguel.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
I don't care about people doing this for me, it's not about dog sports. It's not about me. My stuff was only an example. This is about the concept of profit sharing with producers and supplementing income of video producers and giving much needed help to community developers. It's the idea that I'm pushing, I don't want to push anybody into doing anything for me, but I do think this idea has merit and am a bit confused about the lack of interest on the list here. I hate this kind of communication, email lists, it's so easy to get a mixed message. I do like the latter part of your post, Jay, and think you are on it. I don't think Rosenbaum's piece was very groundbreaking either, other than the fact that it was in print (large blog) and it reinforced what I've believed and have been in the process of doing for a couple years now. And it did so with a little bit of anecdotal evidence and experience. I'm not used to seeing my thoughts and ideas in media until several years after they develop. You are right about the passionate hobbyist supporting their community, but I think it goes further than that. I think we're all about to realize just how important community is. We've been having our eyes opened it here Michigan for a few years now and as the economy takes it's final spins around the toilet bowl we're all going to get a look at how worthless our lives as consumers feeding an economy have become and how damaging it was to our society. We're all going to want to belong to and we're all going to *need* to belong to something in the near future. I think that profit sharing for niche content is a viable method for keeping a cottage studio afloat and for getting great content for niche communities. Creating daylight between spectator quality video and decent production has to happen in order to get the concept of pay to play video working. Getting past the flash in the pan YT viral score / instant celebrity thing has to happen as well. Thanks for the thoughts Jay. Enlightening as always. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Jay dedman wrote: I don't want to beat a dead horse, though, and I can see that there's little interest on the list in entertaining the concept of making money through profit sharing with community developers and small businesses. It's a bummer though. It could be the big thing that makes producing independent video profitable, or at least not a total money pit. It also could put different kinds of creative people in the same room and on the same page fostering who knows what kind of exciting possibilities. I think you just need to change your strategy. Why approach this group who aren't passionate about dog training? Just not something I want to spend my time doing for any amount of money. BUT I'm sure you know a whole community of dog lovers who now have access to cameras. Harness them to gather video for you. I'm sure they'd love some bucks, but passionate hobbyists often just do it because they love it. I'm also certain that it'll be easier to get people to record video and send it to you...then actually getting the to edit the videos as well. Editing videos is where the real time and skill is. Then you would need to talk serious money because editing video is not a light task. I personally don't think Michael Rosenbaum's article is very groundbreaking. Porn has done the pay for download thing for years. We all could have been doing it as well. Is this THE YEAR when people start paying for non-porn content? Doubtful. Because it's so easy to get free content online...and folks usually just route around pay to view barriers, a more likely scenario is that people will give you money just because they want to support the content. They WANT to support you vs they HAVE to pay you to watch. It's the NPR model vs the Comcast model. A small, but committed, fan base will fund you because they know that if they don't, you wont exist. This means your creations must be really important to them so take chances and make the things no one else is or can. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blip feature request/is it already there?
You can use the Show Player to show single episodes. And you can customise the Show Players a huge amount via the Manage Show Players link in the Dashboard. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 7-Jan-09, at 5:24 AM, Jay dedman wrote: But you can also just embed the single video itself. Use the Legacy player in the embed options on the right side of your blip page. This will just play the single video. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] blip.tv and ActiveVideo Networks to bring online shows to TV
http://www.streamingmedia.com/press/view.asp?id=11025
[videoblogging] I'm bloggered in today!
Yesterday I had an unsuccesful time with a password obstacle for my Blogger account. Today I was able to work it out. I'm good now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Television and Online Communities
Hey all - I've written up a blog post about Television and Online Communities and looking for some feedback from folks on their thoughts about content delivery and building communities around them. Reading the post isn't entirely necessary but I'd really appreciate some comments in response to the questions I've thrown up at the end of the post. http://www.scottstead.com/2009/01/07/television-and-online-communities/ Thanks in advance all! Cheers, Scott
[videoblogging] Anyone going to Sundance?
Love to meet up if you are going, shoot me an email and we can chat. Thanks, -sinohui Best regards, Sinohui Hinojosa Co-Founder/Creative Director Emerging Artist Productions shinoj...@emergingartist.org 408-898-4944 (office) 310-857-8991 (cell) EXIT Stage Left-The Web Series produc...@lowrytheatercompany.com www.lowrytheatercompany.com http://www.youtube.com/LowryTheaterCompany http://twitter.com/EXIT_Stage_Left
[videoblogging] Desperately trying to change Blip player to a continuous stream
Hey everyone, I've been desperately trying to change my Blip player to one that has a continuous stream. I am trying to eliminate the showmorebutton function that comes on after the first episode. Though the Blip help staff has been outstanding in their response to my calls for help, I still have not been able to obtain a player with this desired effect. I'll go through the steps I have attempted and maybe a mistake can be detected: step 1. From the Dashboard, click manage player button 2. At top right, select working on 'new player' 3. top line: select name of player(i.e.nick's streaming player) 4. select multi-episode player(i.e. chronological player) 4a. Hit the save button 5. select the Advanced tab. 6. Where the bottom two boxes are, type showmorebutton in the left box and false in the right box. Hit the save button. 7. Now If I understand correctly, this new player should be available to me on the show page when I hit the embed command on the right(show player) and then the custom player style button above. At that point the player that I have gone to the trouble to create and save is never shown. I must be missing a step somewhere along the line. If someone can help me with this I will quickly fire off a mug from my pottery showroom tomorrow morning (www.duckpondpotter.etsy.com)as they will bring my hours of frustration to an end. Thanks for any help that can be provided, Nick Friedman The Duckpond Pottery Brevard, North Carolina www.DUCKPONDtv.blip.tv www.DUCKPONDtv.blogspot.com www.myspace.com/duckpondatdusk
[videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
My opinions, for the one thing Im not short of is opinions: Training videos that are useful to a niche are one of the more likely sorts of videos that some people will pay for. I did not like the example prices you gave at all. Depending on the subject matter, training dvds and suchlike sometimes command a high price tag, and different niche's will have their own ideas about how much their stuff is worth, but I dont know as the internet customer will bite at prices that may not compare well in terms of cost/minute compared to dvd. I think the subscription model is more of a winner, but again it depends on the niche in question. And it works best if there is a fairly prolific quantity of new material added on a regular basis. When I think of multiple people shows collaborating, a subscription model also makes sense to me, if it adds enough value quantity of material to make a viewer more likely to bite. Collaboration has a number of big hurdles to overcome, such as all the issues that can make human collaboration in general quite tricky (clash of ego's, who is in control, differences of opinion, viewing others in the same niche as competition, etc etc). Then there are the technical issues, and also an apparent lack of large numbers of people with both the passion for the niche and the video skills, and the time, to pull this sort of thing off. This stuff can be overcome but it goes part of the way to explaining why we havent seen more of this sort of thing thus far. Whether its because of economic woetime, or issues of future sustainability of our ways of life, local and community sounds like an important part of the future. The internet, and video, will surely figure into this in important ways, but I can hardly begin to guess how it may turn out or exactly what form it will take. Still there are some possible scenarios where it doesnt figure into things much at all, never happens, where other forces lead us down a very different path. So far I have not gotten a sense that videoblogging other forms of video on the internet have opened up many lucrative opportuinities for many people. Those who make it through traditional mass media are still the vast majority, and in honesty I havent seen a video for years that made me think different or that there was about to be a big change. The long tail has made me a tad more hopeful about humanity but has massively failed to live up to the hype so far, in almost every respect. Cheers Steve Elbows
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
Yet people pay $50 - $70 for an event DVD ? Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2009 9:13 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews My opinions, for the one thing Im not short of is opinions: Training videos that are useful to a niche are one of the more likely sorts of videos that some people will pay for. I did not like the example prices you gave at all. Depending on the subject matter, training dvds and suchlike sometimes command a high price tag, and different niche's will have their own ideas about how much their stuff is worth, but I dont know as the internet customer will bite at prices that may not compare well in terms of cost/minute compared to dvd. I think the subscription model is more of a winner, but again it depends on the niche in question. And it works best if there is a fairly prolific quantity of new material added on a regular basis. When I think of multiple people shows collaborating, a subscription model also makes sense to me, if it adds enough value quantity of material to make a viewer more likely to bite. Collaboration has a number of big hurdles to overcome, such as all the issues that can make human collaboration in general quite tricky (clash of ego's, who is in control, differences of opinion, viewing others in the same niche as competition, etc etc). Then there are the technical issues, and also an apparent lack of large numbers of people with both the passion for the niche and the video skills, and the time, to pull this sort of thing off. This stuff can be overcome but it goes part of the way to explaining why we havent seen more of this sort of thing thus far. Whether its because of economic woetime, or issues of future sustainability of our ways of life, local and community sounds like an important part of the future. The internet, and video, will surely figure into this in important ways, but I can hardly begin to guess how it may turn out or exactly what form it will take. Still there are some possible scenarios where it doesnt figure into things much at all, never happens, where other forces lead us down a very different path. So far I have not gotten a sense that videoblogging other forms of video on the internet have opened up many lucrative opportuinities for many people. Those who make it through traditional mass media are still the vast majority, and in honesty I havent seen a video for years that made me think different or that there was about to be a big change. The long tail has made me a tad more hopeful about humanity but has massively failed to live up to the hype so far, in almost every respect. Cheers Steve Elbows [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Desperately trying to change Blip player to a continuous stream
You need to click the + sign to the right of the two boxes when you add a new field like showmorebutton. Have you tried also creating a Playlist player - they play through all episodes automatically. Or just embed the default Show player, which shows the latest episode followed by all others without clicking further. On your main blip page - for instance http://twittervlog.blip.tv click Syndicate Show at top right, then you can get embed code for the default player. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 7-Jan-09, at 3:05 PM, duckpondpotter wrote: Hey everyone, I've been desperately trying to change my Blip player to one that has a continuous stream. I am trying to eliminate the showmorebutton function that comes on after the first episode. Though the Blip help staff has been outstanding in their response to my calls for help, I still have not been able to obtain a player with this desired effect. I'll go through the steps I have attempted and maybe a mistake can be detected: step 1. From the Dashboard, click manage player button 2. At top right, select working on 'new player' 3. top line: select name of player(i.e.nick's streaming player) 4. select multi-episode player(i.e. chronological player) 4a. Hit the save button 5. select the Advanced tab. 6. Where the bottom two boxes are, type showmorebutton in the left box and false in the right box. Hit the save button. 7. Now If I understand correctly, this new player should be available to me on the show page when I hit the embed command on the right(show player) and then the custom player style button above. At that point the player that I have gone to the trouble to create and save is never shown. I must be missing a step somewhere along the line. If someone can help me with this I will quickly fire off a mug from my pottery showroom tomorrow morning (www.duckpondpotter.etsy.com)as they will bring my hours of frustration to an end. Thanks for any help that can be provided, Nick Friedman The Duckpond Pottery Brevard, North Carolina www.DUCKPONDtv.blip.tv www.DUCKPONDtv.blogspot.com www.myspace.com/duckpondatdusk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Blip feature request/is it already there?
Yes, true. Jay forwarded my qestions to blip tech support and they answered: Hi there, You can create a custom player that does not show the more button at the end. Follow these steps: 1. Go to the player editor and create a new Single Episode player, make sure you name it something you'll recognize. 2. Customize the player however you'd like. 3. Go to the Advanced tab 4. Use the blank boxes at the bottom of the page to enter showmorebutton in the first one, and false in the second. (Don't include the quotes) 5. Click the plus button 6. Click Save Player So I only had to change my show player, works perfect. The strange thing is I posted first in the blip yahho group and got no answer Miguel. You can use the Show Player to show single episodes. And you can customise the Show Players a huge amount via the Manage Show Players link in the Dashboard. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 7-Jan-09, at 5:24 AM, Jay dedman wrote: But you can also just embed the single video itself. Use the Legacy player in the embed options on the right side of your blip page. This will just play the single video. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip feature request/is it already there?
Yeah, from what Nick said about what he was doing, it seems like he wasn't clicking the plus button. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 7-Jan-09, at 3:33 PM, miglsd27 wrote: Yes, true. Jay forwarded my qestions to blip tech support and they answered: Hi there, You can create a custom player that does not show the more button at the end. Follow these steps: 1. Go to the player editor and create a new Single Episode player, make sure you name it something you'll recognize. 2. Customize the player however you'd like. 3. Go to the Advanced tab 4. Use the blank boxes at the bottom of the page to enter showmorebutton in the first one, and false in the second. (Don't include the quotes) 5. Click the plus button 6. Click Save Player So I only had to change my show player, works perfect. The strange thing is I posted first in the blip yahho group and got no answer Miguel. You can use the Show Player to show single episodes. And you can customise the Show Players a huge amount via the Manage Show Players link in the Dashboard. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 7-Jan-09, at 5:24 AM, Jay dedman wrote: But you can also just embed the single video itself. Use the Legacy player in the embed options on the right side of your blip page. This will just play the single video. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
Well, it all comes down to what people think something is worth to them I guess. I cannot really tell Ron what his particular prices should be because Im not a potential customer, I dont know what the stuff is worth. I was meaning to say that when talking about the wider theory of selling video online, the sorts of numbers Ron was using as examples might not apply to too many niches, with big implications for the profitability of such ideas, and thus perhaps an explanation for the relative lack of enthusism compared to what Ron was hoping for from this thread. I know Apple have some developer videos that costs hundreds of dollars, I dont know the runtime, I assume its many hours, and that its price can be justified for some developers because the knowledge it contains will help them make money. It also occurs to me that yesterdays Apple keynote included details of music tutorial videos that could be purchased, as part of Garageband or something - I wasnt really paying attention to the detail at the time, I forget how much they charge and dont know how long the videos are, but I think the main selling point was that they featured known musicians doing the training, and thus have the promise of a certain level of professionalism and desirability. Plus as Apple are pushing these things, they can sell bucketloads due to their promotional powers, a subject I always rant about when thinking of indie video on the net, promotion is one area the mass media and other corporations still rule supreme. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rambos Locker rambos_loc...@... wrote: Yet people pay $50 - $70 for an event DVD ? Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
Steve, Great post! I've been thinking about this a lot, and I agree with your assessment that different groups will have different cost structures and will be watered down to what the market will bear. In terms of Frisbee dogs, a highly complex activity with only a few people qualified or capable of delivering instruction that is worthwhile, I think we're all set in terms of pricing. I'm not selling fish, I selling a fishing manuals. Flyball on the other hand is a much more simple sport in terms of behavior - run jump over some hurdles and get the ball on your box turn, jump some more hurdles and do it quickly. Not much serious instruction opportunities there. A friend of mine produced an instructional DVD for flyball with the world's best team, and the 20 minute piece retails for $30. It's good stuff, but can it be broken down into bite sized chunks? Not sure. They'll hang out for the community interaction. Agility is another highly complex sport and instruction is very expensive. It's a great fit. Dock diving? Not much serious training there. This is just to show that there are different possibilities with different topics. The specific idea I mentioned to start this thread, the jamming videos, could not retail for more than a buck or 2, but at a buck or 2 with the right players, they'd sell like hotcakes - a couple hundred should be easy, not bad for a 2-4 minute video with limited editing. While this is kind of selling the fish, and not the manual, it is also selling the manual as the disc dog world goes round by stealing tricks. This could not happen with all dog sports, and could not happen with all kinds of activities. The people we are bringing in for instructional video are not just some people. We have, perhaps, the best discdog instruction in the world (not like we have many competitors) - it's certainly world class. I'm pretty sure we can get the price I'm talking about for instructional pieces, at least in agility and Frisbee. The other stuff not so sure. I'm betting on some good crossover numbers (agility trainers looking at frisbee after good healthy exposure) and solid hardgoods sales from the various small business vendors that service the community. Rambo, I think you and I are in the same place on this. The passion that paddlers have is very close to dog sport people's passion - we're just friggin' crazy about it. I don't think many people realize how disconnected many of these communities are from 'reality'. Who spends thousands of dollars to Fiji (and pays to ship a boat!) to beat themselves up in the water for some Kukui nut lei or something. It's crazy. Who has 30 leashes and collars for their dog? Or has 13 dogs, 8 of which sleep in bed with us at a time like we do? We exist in our own little reality and there is no corporate media organization that is going to go there. It's the long tail or nothing. I am doing my best to create a community that allows for the kind of support that Jay mentioned in his earlier post. All I have to do is put them all in the same place Vendors, trainers and participants, let them interact freely, and bring their preferred commercial interests (vendors and instructors) to them on a daily basis. I'm pretty sure it'll work. I'll be happy to talk about the project offlist and give you some details. I think it could benefit your gig. BTW, your fig rig pics got me fired up to create a new one of my own. It's kind of nice. Thanks! peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Rambos Locker wrote: Yet people pay $50 - $70 for an event DVD ? Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2009 9:13 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews My opinions, for the one thing Im not short of is opinions: Training videos that are useful to a niche are one of the more likely sorts of videos that some people will pay for. I did not like the example prices you gave at all. Depending on the subject matter, training dvds and suchlike sometimes command a high price tag, and different niche's will have their own ideas about how much their stuff is worth, but I dont know as the internet customer will bite at prices that may not compare well in terms of cost/minute compared to dvd. I think the subscription model is more of a winner, but again it depends on the niche in question. And it works best if there is a fairly prolific quantity of new material added on a regular basis. When I think of multiple people shows collaborating, a subscription model also makes sense to me, if it adds enough value quantity of material to make a viewer more likely
[videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews
Yup you're right, crazy and passionate. That Fig rig is up to version No 11, I just enclosed the Cam fully in a water proof casing and it mounts with a quick connect tripod mount to the rig. I'll post pics later today of the complete version. The details of how i built the Fig Rig are on the HV20 forum http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=20113 Contact you off list further about your project Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9d...@... wrote: Steve, Great post! I've been thinking about this a lot, and I agree with your assessment that different groups will have different cost structures and will be watered down to what the market will bear. In terms of Frisbee dogs, a highly complex activity with only a few people qualified or capable of delivering instruction that is worthwhile, I think we're all set in terms of pricing. I'm not selling fish, I selling a fishing manuals. Flyball on the other hand is a much more simple sport in terms of behavior - run jump over some hurdles and get the ball on your box turn, jump some more hurdles and do it quickly. Not much serious instruction opportunities there. A friend of mine produced an instructional DVD for flyball with the world's best team, and the 20 minute piece retails for $30. It's good stuff, but can it be broken down into bite sized chunks? Not sure. They'll hang out for the community interaction. Agility is another highly complex sport and instruction is very expensive. It's a great fit. Dock diving? Not much serious training there. This is just to show that there are different possibilities with different topics. The specific idea I mentioned to start this thread, the jamming videos, could not retail for more than a buck or 2, but at a buck or 2 with the right players, they'd sell like hotcakes - a couple hundred should be easy, not bad for a 2-4 minute video with limited editing. While this is kind of selling the fish, and not the manual, it is also selling the manual as the disc dog world goes round by stealing tricks. This could not happen with all dog sports, and could not happen with all kinds of activities. The people we are bringing in for instructional video are not just some people. We have, perhaps, the best discdog instruction in the world (not like we have many competitors) - it's certainly world class. I'm pretty sure we can get the price I'm talking about for instructional pieces, at least in agility and Frisbee. The other stuff not so sure. I'm betting on some good crossover numbers (agility trainers looking at frisbee after good healthy exposure) and solid hardgoods sales from the various small business vendors that service the community. Rambo, I think you and I are in the same place on this. The passion that paddlers have is very close to dog sport people's passion - we're just friggin' crazy about it. I don't think many people realize how disconnected many of these communities are from 'reality'. Who spends thousands of dollars to Fiji (and pays to ship a boat!) to beat themselves up in the water for some Kukui nut lei or something. It's crazy. Who has 30 leashes and collars for their dog? Or has 13 dogs, 8 of which sleep in bed with us at a time like we do? We exist in our own little reality and there is no corporate media organization that is going to go there. It's the long tail or nothing. I am doing my best to create a community that allows for the kind of support that Jay mentioned in his earlier post. All I have to do is put them all in the same place Vendors, trainers and participants, let them interact freely, and bring their preferred commercial interests (vendors and instructors) to them on a daily basis. I'm pretty sure it'll work. I'll be happy to talk about the project offlist and give you some details. I think it could benefit your gig. BTW, your fig rig pics got me fired up to create a new one of my own. It's kind of nice. Thanks! peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Rambos Locker wrote: Yet people pay $50 - $70 for an event DVD ? Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2009 9:13 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews My opinions, for the one thing Im not short of is opinions: Training videos that are useful to a niche are one of the more likely sorts of videos that some people will pay for. I did not like the example prices you gave at all. Depending on the subject matter, training dvds and
Re: [videoblogging] Fig Rig
My new fig rig is v2.0, and is simply a 20 aluminum rim from a bicycle with the spokes cut out, and the valve stem whole bored out just enough to fit a bolt that attaches to the bottom of my manfrotto pistol grip head. It's real nice as the head articulates allowing me to put the unit on the ground and get a quick and dirty tripod function out of it. It's real sturdy and super light compared to my steel monster that was featured in my homemade fig rig video here: http://blip.tv/file/ 653663 . I really need a lanc controller though, and tried to mount my remote control to the frame, but it didn't work. I've got a little jiggle in the mounting mechanism, as the manfrotto head is really tall and it sways a bit. I'm going to try to tack it down a little better, but it's real nice if your being careful. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:13 PM, rambos_locker wrote: Yup you're right, crazy and passionate. That Fig rig is up to version No 11, I just enclosed the Cam fully in a water proof casing and it mounts with a quick connect tripod mount to the rig. I'll post pics later today of the complete version. The details of how i built the Fig Rig are on the HV20 forum http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=20113 Contact you off list further about your project Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9d...@... wrote: Steve, Great post! I've been thinking about this a lot, and I agree with your assessment that different groups will have different cost structures and will be watered down to what the market will bear. In terms of Frisbee dogs, a highly complex activity with only a few people qualified or capable of delivering instruction that is worthwhile, I think we're all set in terms of pricing. I'm not selling fish, I selling a fishing manuals. Flyball on the other hand is a much more simple sport in terms of behavior - run jump over some hurdles and get the ball on your box turn, jump some more hurdles and do it quickly. Not much serious instruction opportunities there. A friend of mine produced an instructional DVD for flyball with the world's best team, and the 20 minute piece retails for $30. It's good stuff, but can it be broken down into bite sized chunks? Not sure. They'll hang out for the community interaction. Agility is another highly complex sport and instruction is very expensive. It's a great fit. Dock diving? Not much serious training there. This is just to show that there are different possibilities with different topics. The specific idea I mentioned to start this thread, the jamming videos, could not retail for more than a buck or 2, but at a buck or 2 with the right players, they'd sell like hotcakes - a couple hundred should be easy, not bad for a 2-4 minute video with limited editing. While this is kind of selling the fish, and not the manual, it is also selling the manual as the disc dog world goes round by stealing tricks. This could not happen with all dog sports, and could not happen with all kinds of activities. The people we are bringing in for instructional video are not just some people. We have, perhaps, the best discdog instruction in the world (not like we have many competitors) - it's certainly world class. I'm pretty sure we can get the price I'm talking about for instructional pieces, at least in agility and Frisbee. The other stuff not so sure. I'm betting on some good crossover numbers (agility trainers looking at frisbee after good healthy exposure) and solid hardgoods sales from the various small business vendors that service the community. Rambo, I think you and I are in the same place on this. The passion that paddlers have is very close to dog sport people's passion - we're just friggin' crazy about it. I don't think many people realize how disconnected many of these communities are from 'reality'. Who spends thousands of dollars to Fiji (and pays to ship a boat!) to beat themselves up in the water for some Kukui nut lei or something. It's crazy. Who has 30 leashes and collars for their dog? Or has 13 dogs, 8 of which sleep in bed with us at a time like we do? We exist in our own little reality and there is no corporate media organization that is going to go there. It's the long tail or nothing. I am doing my best to create a community that allows for the kind of support that Jay mentioned in his earlier post. All I have to do is put them all in the same place Vendors, trainers and participants, let them interact freely, and bring their preferred commercial interests (vendors and instructors) to them on a daily basis. I'm pretty sure it'll work. I'll be happy to talk about the project offlist and give
[videoblogging] MVK with subtitles to mp4 mov or other file transcode
My son stumped me with a question...he has an original file in MVK with a subtitle track that he also extracted as ass file. Does anyone know a way to transcode a MVL file to a movie file with subtitles intact? Thanks Daniel p.s. we are MAC...
[videoblogging] Re: MVK with subtitles to mp4 mov or other file transcode
Hey Daniel, The open source Perian plugin supports MKV and will transcode in Quicktime. http://www.perian.org Rick --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar danielmcvi...@... wrote: My son stumped me with a question...he has an original file in MVK with a subtitle track that he also extracted as ass file. Does anyone know a way to transcode a MVL file to a movie file with subtitles intact? Thanks Daniel p.s. we are MAC...
