Re: [videoblogging] looking for examples of good direct to camera video diary type vlogs
you mentioned fred! -1 ;) On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Now I'm back, I'll briefly add... most video diaries are not the classic to-camera video diaries that you see characters on TV shows films doing - those that are to-camera tend to be somewhere between being editorial opinions and stand up comedy. Personal video diaries online have tended to be more like classic home movies - people pointing the camera away from them, videoing the people and things around them, and then cutting them into simple sequences. Like Jay's video of his mother's last days, posted in November: http://momentshowing.net/2009/11/video-sure/ One of my favourite types of video diary has been the videoblog travelogue as mastered by Ryanne Jay - just filming moments without commentary or music and stitching them together - the natural sounds forming a rhythm: http://tinyurl.com/ryanne I have taught videoblogging to teenagers, and most of them were quite bored by videoblogs and video diaries - even those that I thought were amazing or funny. I figured that this was because most video diaries and blogs are by adults, about adult lives. This is one of the reasons Anne Frank is so accessible to young people - she's young. And one of the reasons why the nightmarish fake video diary of Fred, which I linked to before, has been so phenomenally popular - he's a kid. Ditto the other fictional phenomenon, LonelyGirl15... Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 2 Feb 2010, at 08:48, Rupert Howe wrote: I would recommend some of my own stuff: http://twittervlog.tv/popular-videos/ but i fear the language may be a little rich for 13 year olds. Ze Frank's The Show is a good place to start. Very creative to-camera videoblogging - it ran from 2006-7. He defined the style that you can see a lot of on YouTube now - with fake video diaries like Fred http://www.youtube.com/user/Fred and videobloggers you see popping up in the Most Viewed section on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/videos From this list, Mike Moon does a great regular video diary at the moment: http://vlog.mikemoon.net People like Ryanne Hodson and Michael Verdi did awesome video diary work from 2004-6. http://ryanedit.blogspot.com http://michaelverdi.com I'll let others jump in with specific examples of videos because I suddenly have to run to take my daughter to school! Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 2 Feb 2010, at 01:54, Christopher wrote: Hi all, I got question. Just started a new WGBH Lab open call inspired by The Diary of Anne Frank. For this call for entries, we are asking for video diary entries, hence the connection to Anne Fank It's targeted to youth media makers 13 and up so I started a section called video to inspire...basically it's section for me share example videos of what we might be looking for but also so show methods that kids might be able to express themselves via video. can you all suggest some good examples out the video blogging community that I could link to or embed? Let me know. Chris The WGBH Lab e-mail: chris_hasti...@wgbh.org chris_hastings%40wgbh.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] 2010 the year of internet TV videoblogging
ha! http://www.steenbeck.com never knew. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.auwrote: sort of like a Steenbeck? :-) On 19/01/2010, at 10:16 AM, Richard Amirault wrote: I would LOVE to edit with a touch screen. just seems like it'd be more fun and direct. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au adrian.miles%40rmit.edu.au Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Youtube supports HTML5 (No more Flash?)
I still have high hopes for the future of Ogg. Will be interesting to see what the next phase entails and if Google will even contribute to Ogg or put out it's own project (typical). Regarding Flash... We should frame this properly Flash obviously has infinite uses beyond the standard web video player and will continue to be heavily used by developers and consumers. What I welcome is the ability to not depend on Flash for the standard web video player and let it be supported by native browser/html standards and get consensus on codecs and/or let web browser users configure it (prompt). Sull On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really bummed that Google and Apple are doing this with h264 and Mozilla is using Ogg. The more I look into ogg the more that I see that for most cases it can be just as good as h264. It would really help if someone made a fucking compression app (with a GUI) for it. Firefogg is pretty darn good though. Holy shit! Verdi this is a breakthrough! This summer I know you were pretty down on Ogg/Theora because it would never be as good as H264. Just as good wasnt good enough. Because Google and Apple are now separating ways and competing head to head, Id be interested to see if Google doesnt put out a version of Ogg/Theora that kicks ass because they have a team of engineers working on it. There would be profit in the investment because they'd no longer have to pay a codec license fee for their phones or websites. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Fwd: 48 Hours to go: The all new Frameline 47
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Re: [videoblogging] Video Editor urgently needed for Utopian Road Movie
i like unbiased commentary preludes to forwarded call-outs etc. it should be required ;) On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: oohh, i got all grumpy, ignore me. it might actually be of interest to someone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Fwd: Advocate Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1
-- Forwarded message -- From: advocate-requ...@playogg.org Date: Jan 1, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: Advocate Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1 To: advoc...@playogg.org Send Advocate mailing list submissions to advoc...@playogg.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to advocate-requ...@playogg.org You can reach the person managing the list at advocate-ow...@playogg.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Advocate digest... Today's Topics: 1. A good year for Ogg, plus Ogg activism in 2010 (Free Software Foundation) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:25:14 -0500 (EST) From: Free Software Foundation i...@fsf.org Subject: [Advocate Play Ogg] A good year for Ogg, plus Ogg activism in 2010 To: advoc...@playogg.org Message-ID: 60209.71.162.225.98.1262287514.squir...@webmail.fsf.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Hi everyone, 2009 has been a very good year for Ogg and the goals of the PlayOgg campaign! The work we've done, encouraging the community to insist on free formats, is finally paying off. Here are some highlights from 2009: * Support for the HTML5 audio and video tag brought Ogg Vorbis and Theora support into the browser and into the mainstream. Wikipedia started publishing more and more video in Ogg format (aww... http://ur1.ca/ihe7) and popular video site Dailymotion coverted over 300,000 videos to Ogg. * Ogg supporters successfully debunked doubts expressed about Theora quality, even forcing Google to back-down over claims they had made against it. People started taking Ogg seriously as a way to do online video and it's now seen as a realistic alternative to h.264 and Flash. * The Theora 1.1 release made Ogg Theora videos look better for a given bitrate, faster to decode, and easier to size (for streaming, or burning to a disc). * A personal highlight: I got to participate in the FLOSS Manuals Theora Book Sprint http://flossmanuals.net/TheoraCookbook/ where Ogg experts came together to make a complete guide to Ogg Theora. Meanwhile, the FSF started using more Ogg-encoded media on our own site. Check out this new video from Lawrence Lessig [1], or this introduction to free software from FSF's John Sullivan [2], or these testimonials from free software users on the importance of software freedom [3]. We're even working on a short film (about the out-of- control problem of software patents) that will be edited using free software and published (of course) in Ogg. 1. http://www.fsf.org/appeal/2009/lawrence-lessig/ 2. http://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software 3. http://www.fsf.org/video/?u=important_sm The tools are in place. But achieving the next milestone in Ogg adoption will require more than improving tools. We need a wave of activism and grassroots evangelization to bring Ogg support into the sites and services people use every day. That's the mission of the FSF's PlayOgg campaign in 2010. To support this work, join the FSF as a member, and convince a friend to join. Your contribution is tax deductible in the US. http://www.fsf.org/join Happy New Year! --Holmes Wilson and the FSF team -- ___ Advocate mailing list advoc...@playogg.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate End of Advocate Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1 *** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Video website payments and accountability
you need to be a phenom or a spammer. else, you're a dreamer. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Recently a fellow filmmaker contacted me about 5min.com. He had concerns about them putting his videos on other sites like Bukisa.com and Watchdoit, something that wasn't discussed when he gave permission for 5min's to use his vids. There are only two sites that I would recommend to video producers with regard to ad revenue. Youtube and blinkx. Other sites (like blip.tv) despite running ads in my videos, have never returned one cent! As an Australian, dealing with these online video sites (based in locations as diverse as Israel and the US) what legal recourse to I have to checking a video sites accounting practices, and withdrawing my content? These are good questions. I imagine it's all about reputation. Since this practice of ad revenue/sharing on videos is relatively new, I imagine that people will start talking as they experience each service. Like you're doing now. Shady services will wither quickly. We was just recently invited by Youtube to put ads on some of our videos (I guess your video must hit a certain viewer threshold first). As an experiment, we went through the process. Funny enough, they sent us an email saying we had to prove we owned the video/audiowanting us to fax signed releases. So by accepting their offer for ads, we've put our videos existence in jeopardy. Because we haven't been able to confirm that you have the necessary rights, including publicity rights, to commercially use all the video material and music, we ask that you provide written documentation substantiating your claim. Please email us or fax us this information at 650-362-9648. The document should either be a written contract between yourself and the rights owner, or a letter from the rights owner stating that you are permitted to use their content commercially. Please provide a signature along with contact information for the rights owner. A faxed hard copy of the document is preferable, but you may also email us the information with an electronic signature attached. We ask that the document also includes the url for the video(s) and your channel name. Please note that we reserve the right to make the final determination on whether to enable revenue sharing for a video. You must also respond within 7 business days of receiving this letter, or the video may be removed from the YouTube site. If you need more time to acquire the proper documents, you may consider disabling revenue sharing yourself. For instructions on disabling revenue sharing on a video, please visit our Help Center article at http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=94522. Please note that disabling revenue sharing will NOT remove your video from the YouTube site. Sincerely, Olga The YouTube Team We emailed back that we shot the video and used CC-licensed music (which is listed in the credits). Sent them links to the audio and the license. Have not heard back. Hopefully they dont take down our video. They are putting quite a few I'm really skeptical of advertising in videos. Not out of moral issuesI just cant believe it's an effective payback for sponsors. Is any one here making any kind of money at all from ads on their videos? Jay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Online video portfolio
i agree. in 2009, i returned to basics in many ways. and have enjoyed building rather complex things with simplistic methods. you could also argue that its a bit more secure as their are virtually no input forms and not commonly used app so not a target like wordpress is. though i like staceyapp, i'm tempted to deploy/rewrite some of my own similar software. but i am very much interested in this evolution/de-evolution of web app philosophy. i also want to pick up and dust off a little side project i had started that uses email to create a short messaging feed/stream/page and uses no database, just text files - http://nudg.es example feed: http://nudg.es/feeds/feed.php?user=sullele...@gmail.com simple, pretty, effective. ;) sull On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.auwrote: hi all yes, the first one I saw had no video support and was going to get in touch about it, then hey presto, new version out with very nice video support. While lots of us use CMS for all sorts of things if you're the only contributor then things like WordPress are becoming a bit like Word for simple wordprocessing. There's just a ton of stuff there when realistically most of us want just a small part of it. This makes things like Stacey interesting as they step in between the big CMS's and hand coding. This is an interesting development in the ecology of CMS's. On 14/12/2009, at 3:35 PM, sull wrote: I've been playing around with it over the past week. New version was just released. Good stuff. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au adrian.miles%40rmit.edu.au Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Online video portfolio
I've been playing around with it over the past week. New version was just released. Good stuff. On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a cool site that Adrian Miles pointed me too: http://www.staceyapp.com/ Seems a nice solution for folks trying to make portfolio page thats not just a blog page. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Dickens and videoblogging
Last year, I bought this book for my wife and read some of it it makes for an interesting stocking stuffer ;) The Man Who Invented Christmas: How Charles Dickens's A Christmas Carol Rescued His Career and Revived Our Holiday Spirits http://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Invented-Christmas-Dickenss/dp/0307405788 Sull On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.comwrote: Definitely agree Jay. I love that aspects of videoblogging have become prevalent in feature filmmaking and vice versa. It's good to share. Also, Dickens basically invented Christmas as we know it. So there's that. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.comjay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: nice points Adam. I'd push them a bit further. Dicken's didn't write novels. He wrote serialised pieces for serial publication that were later turned into novels. This makes his example even more relevant in the terms you point out. Yeah, Stephen King revived this model with Green Mile, where he published the book in pieces. Supposedly he didnt know the ending when he began. Everyone wants to push a known format onto videovlogging...but having fun with the medium and showing life in different ways makes more sense. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Day 30: 30 Day 30 People 30 Videos
one hack technique that i almost was going to spend an hour on the other night is the literally screen capture every video and then just stitch them all together. i use screenflow on the mac (and sometimes snapz pro as well). i've done this in some cases in the past and though it is unconventional, it does work well (enough). sull On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: What I'd really like, though, is to edit together the whole thing into one video as was suggested at the start. I tried earlier in the month, but was unable to download several of the entries from their various video hosting sites. Does anyone have the requisite download-fu to grab all of the videos and place them into a single sequence? I realize that the interactive and looping entries would need to be dumbed down for this sort of presentation, but I'd still love to bable to watch the whole game from start to finish. Any thoughts? Here we run into the wall of video formats/codecs. There's no easy way to grab all these videos. You have to go to each page and figure how to pull them off. Each format has its different requirements and tools to strip it off the page. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyright Music?
I agree with both of you. The issue begins with us backed into a corner. That's why Creative Commons was born. As a sensible alternative. But their should not have been a need for Creative Commons to begin with. You can look at this issue from the perspective of reality or one of assumed etiquette or both. For me, I tend to use copyrighted media if I bought the media myself. I also tend to email some relevant source that I am using a piece of content and even have gone so far to instruct them to send me proper legal takedown notice as needed (so I could consider it). The reality is, no harm, no foul, always. Just last month I posted a video that was nothing more than a screencast of a 360 degree animation of a camera that was accidentally published on Motorola's website. I found out vie Twitter and before they took the page offline, I captured it and added a soundtrack and uploaded it to Youtube. This took 15 minutes of my time. The track was a free download from a band that I like but is not well-known. I added attribution at the end of the video. The video got over 20k views. All those people heard this track and if they went to the end or read the description, they also knew who it was and where to find them on the web. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbbO9NnrLE8 - That was courtesy of me. A fan. Maybe some of those people will listen to more of their music and become a fan as well. This case is so common that I have just stopped caring about using copyright content in my own non-commercial personal hobby videos. I am not doing any harm, not making any money and only promoting the content for free. I could receive a takedown notice and weigh my options at that point. But to not use the content at this stage for me is not an option. I've moved beyond that idealistic phase. I think to some degree... so has the industry. sull On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Michael Verdi michaelve...@gmail.comwrote: Heath you're totally right. I made a short film a few years ago based on my brother and I playing Star Trek when we were kids. I actually wrote to Paramount to ask for permission to use a few sound clips (transporter, bridge beeps, etc). Not only did they say no, they reminded me that the words, Enterprise, Spock and Phaser were trademarks and also couldn't be used. The thing is, when we were kids we played Star Trek. Not Star Journey or Space Trek or some other bullshit. It's insane that Copyright and Trademark laws can reach into your childhood memories and make the expression of them illegal subject to the whim of a corporation. - Verdi On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:50 AM, hpbatman7 heathpa...@msn.comheathparks%40msn.com wrote: A sound reasoned, thought out responsesweet...but I would expect no less from Michael...me, well here is my take. What I think is disgenious is the following, record labels, corporations, marketing people, all for years, heck decades have done is try to get us as consumers to think of their products in our everyday lifes...rememeber the old Kodak slogan, Share moments, share life, Coke, it's the real thing, and so on or the way music is used now in commercials, to envoke a certain feeling or moment from your life...I mean in itself music takes us to a certain place in time in our lives, music video's help convey this process by putting pictures to words and so on They have spent a lot of money to get us to identify certain brands, certain music with events in our lives. It's how they have made a lot of money...it's just that now...anyone can take these things and share them...I mean what did they think was going to happen, a whole generation and a half has been rasised to think of their lives around brands, around music, around TV shows...and now they bitch and complain when we use tools to share OUR lives with the very things that we identify our lives with? It's nuts...I mean they still want us to think in the terms that they want us to think in, we just can't share it, show it or let anyone know we like or dislike it... I don't freakin think so Heath http://heathparks.com/blog I do agree you should alwasy give attribution though, something I need to be better at and I wouldn't ever use copyrighted music for a clientor for profit. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michaelve...@... wrote: Hey Pete, I'm cool with that. It would be great to get attribution (or even $) but really I just want people to see what I make. I don't pretend that I've made anything wholly original (I don't think anyone has) and I'm happy for people to use it as inspiration. Artists build off of the work of others without permission all of the time and to pretend otherwise is dishonest. In this world I think (and it's the case for myself personally) artists are more often negatively impacted by obscurity than by someone using
Re: [videoblogging] Day 22 - ReTurn (The Chain Continues)
that was very cool! On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:34 PM, mgmoon mgm...@yahoo.com wrote: http://mikemoon.net/vlog/2009/11/22/day-22-return-vlomo-2009/ My contribution to the 30 videos by 30 vloggers in 30 days chain. @David Lee King - The torch has been passed. Vlog on my friend... Mike Site: http://vlog.mikemoon.net RSS: http://feeds.feedburner.com/MoonEchoes My 30in30 all-in-one player: http://mikemoon.net/vlog/30-things-countdown/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Day 22 - ReTurn (The Chain Continues)
that was very cool! On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:34 PM, mgmoon mgm...@yahoo.com wrote: http://mikemoon.net/vlog/2009/11/22/day-22-return-vlomo-2009/ My contribution to the 30 videos by 30 vloggers in 30 days chain. @David Lee King - The torch has been passed. Vlog on my friend... Mike Site: http://vlog.mikemoon.net RSS: http://feeds.feedburner.com/MoonEchoes My 30in30 all-in-one player: http://mikemoon.net/vlog/30-things-countdown/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] roku now with blip.tv, facebook and other media channels
I was just complaining about netflix and roku today. I suppose this bit of news will appease me for a while longer. Some new channels: blip.tv, Facebook Photos, Flickr, FrameChannel, Mediafly, MobileTribe, Motionbox, Pandora, Revision3 and TWiT http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/22/roku-announces-roku-channel-store-adds-facebook-and-pandora-and-maybe-porn/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Copyright Music?
for a client i would not even consider using any assets that were not legally cleared. for personal hobby videos... i am willing to risk it and promote music for free :) i plan to do this for an entire album soon. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Roxanne Darling oke...@gmail.com wrote: Ok so I got hood-winked - a little - as I figured you would know this stuff Mr John but then why ask the question? Sorry I was gone while you were in Hawaii... And yes, I to am in favor of push back - but like Jay, for client work I'm not gonna go there unless they insist. Like David says, there are lots of missed opportunities here due to old world thinking. And, there are missed royalties too, as you can't squeeze 'em out of an old system that people just don't respect anymore. If people weren't pushing against the rules, the enforcers wouldn't realize how much they are due for change. Carry on, Rox On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:02 PM, David King davidleek...@gmail.com wrote: Don't remember who, but I heard someone say music companies should embrace the personal copying/reuse of their music, and instead of blocking it in YouTube, for example ... notice it, and then add targeted ads when the song is played. Music companies would end up with more money, individuals wouldn't hate the music company for blocking their perfect song for the video, and everybody would kiss and make up. Ok, probably not quite to that extent, but you get my drift... :-) David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com jay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: Jay, I thought you like to break the rules? haha yeah. break away. I dot see how music companies will slow down the use of music in personal creation. and as we all know, its free advertising for them. jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] SuperHeadz Digital Cam
ah so this is the one i was told about over the summer. i did not recall the name so was unable to find anything about a sort of new pxlesque camera. thank you! i would love to own this! On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Michael Sean Kaminsky kaminsky...@gmail.com wrote: that was from a GQ review i tore from a paper magazine. but i found a link to a review with some video: http://nicnichols.com/FourCornersDark/?page_id=2434 and also more here: http://nicnichols.com/FourCornersDark/?page_id=3549 i'm impressed with the image texture. i'm sure the same can be done in after effects but cool to not have to bother. from nicnichols.com: Their goal was to build a digital camera that had the spirit of 110 film and the nostalgia of your parents 8mm home movies. To do this they purposely designed what some would call flawed chip to capture less then perfect colors and contrast. But it was not that simple, the chip was the result of careful design to find a balance between image quality and image distortion- They took very special care to balance the color just a little away from normal- and created a small plastic lens instead of the large glass ones used on many digital cameras today. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone heard of this cam? It seems a bit gimmicky and is overpriced, but still i am curious. the visual sensor is tweaked to capture video reminiscent of super 8: the colors are saturated, the edges mysteriously dark, the images soft and forgiving. like original 8mm cameras it doesn't pick up sound, but it does add an ambient hiss to the background'. Is there a specific link where you reading this review? Sounds cool but could be gimmicky depedning on how they pull it off. jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo Day 19
That said, there is more to it than just capturing them - there's what you do with them. Thats the real issue. I capture often and have compiled a very large library of clips. It is rare for me to post them raw or to use them as part of an edited video project. I don't share much. I never planned to post my vlomo footage but with little time and no plan, i scanned my recent clips and proceeded to quickly stitch a few personal moments i had with my grandmother in her final days and shared them. I was a bit uncomfortable with it. But it was real and relevant and i'm glad that i did. I also am very dependent on a layer of music. Like Verdi had said recently regarding his use of copyrighted music - Fuck copyright - I too often disregard it (though it's right to give proper attribution). Now that I have a decent phone/camera I'll prob be posting more raw moments. The question is where will I post to. Ideally, we'll get together and pool our moments for collaborative use an easy to use media database. Would also be useful for generative media experiments. sull On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Michael Verdi michaelve...@gmail.comwrote: I don't want to take anything away from Jay's video but I'd like to point out that one part of what makes the video great (and easy to shoot) is Jay's idea of Momentshowing. I've been really taking that to heart over the last year and made some things that I really like and, I think, capture the truth of the moment, by just capturing tiny, random, moments (usually on my phone). That said, there is more to it than just capturing them - there's what you do with them. It doesn't take long to get that there's a method to Jay's madness in something like this: http://momentshowing.net/2007/04/video-crazy_arms/ Here's a few of mine; inspired by Jay: http://michaelverdi.com/2009/03/10/hanging-out/ http://michaelverdi.com/2009/07/10/leveling-up/ http://michaelverdi.com/2009/10/04/dog-cat-cows-airplanes/ http://michaelverdi.com/2009/11/02/kids/ Anyway, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the process or the constraints can make your art smarter if you let it. - Verdi On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ernie djsh...@googlemail.comdjshabb%40googlemail.com wrote: Jay I thought it was awesome. It made me feel like I really do not deserve to be sharing the label video blogger. Powerful, emotional and perfect. I loved it. Ernie http://www.ernmander.com On 20/11/2009 18:55, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.comjay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: Jay, that was amazing that told that story. Thank you. Adam, for the love of God man, lower the bar, lower the bar! yeah guys, I dont mean to over-emotionalize the project. I just happened to have a camera during a pretty crazy life moment. I feel its good to share this stuffversus keep all quiet. death especially. remember that when we all started, the excitement was recording life. Being able to make movies out of the drama of our everyday lives while still working and going about the day. No longer do we hav to stop everything to make a movie. So me being able to record at my mom's death bed was just a function of always having a camera on me...and being in the habit of recording my life. I hope I see other people's experience with all kinds things as time moves on. Ultimately though it's about being ready when these opportunities arise. I recorded those 3 days with ZERO plan. I was just there. Actually recording even helped me focus on what was actually happening with my family and mom. Made me appreciate the moments much more. If anyone is too sad, watch the video we made a baby being born this year: http://ryanishungry.com/2009/01/21/home-birth-diy-labor-and-delivery/ Ryanne and I shot all this on a $150 Flip camera with no mic. Videoblogging: birth, death, and everything in between! Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Michael Verdi http://michaelverdi.com http://talkbot.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] New Flip camera will have wifi
if only wifi were available everywhere. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: More and more it feels luke the iPhone and Flip are going head to head: http://bit.ly/1NYb1q Flip camera doesnt have a contrcat though and is available everywhere. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Has a wheel fallen off the VloMo cart?
yeah a few emails were exchanged (with the help of Rupert). Prob didnt help that I submitted mine at the end of my day but looks like Topher's is added to http://videobloggers.mirocommunity.org/listing/featured/ sull On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see a video for November 12th? Should Sean carry on? Topher posted his link on time, I think there were some cross-wires in communicating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOmwp9KNCfQ all is well. it's a challenge to get everyone talking since we're so spread out. but so far so good. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] NatVlogMonth
But I don't know what that tag should be - this game doesn't even have a name yet. Is it the Navlo game, or the video chain, or the Navlopomo chain? This popped into my head when i read the lack of name. The Video Incremental #TVI1109 ? Might be good to not name it in association with navlopomo even though it is a subset... but if by chance people want to do this again in a few months, it can be done using its own name and month/year. I don't know, just a thought. n Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: I've just sent an email to all the players with advice about contacting and passing videos to each other. But I'm not specifying any way to publish the videos. We've tried a few ways of curating, centralizing aggregating NaVloPoMo videos community, and everybody gets hung up on finding the best way to do it. But this is a decentralized game, a decentralized medium and a decentralized community. So, as far as I'm concerned, anything goes. Publish wherever you want, in whatever codec. Publish round animated gifs if you want. How we aggregate it, navigate it, reconstruct it, replay it, will be part of the game. Everybody can do it their own way, or create their own places to gather the videos and people. It'll no doubt change and develop as we go along through the month. You want to set up a Miro Community, a Posterous blog, a Twitter hashtag, a Facebook page, a wiki, a Yahoo Pipe RSS Feed? Or post all the video links here on the group? Go for it. I'm looking forward to seeing whether the videos will just be allowed to stand alone scattered around the web with simple links between them, or if people will want to get creative about how to collect display them. The only thing I recommend is that we use a tag for the game in addition to Navlopomo Navlopomo2009 - since it's different from NaVloPoMo. But I don't know what that tag should be - this game doesn't even have a name yet. Is it the Navlo game, or the video chain, or the Navlopomo chain? I don't know - you decide - I've done enough talking :) Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 30-Oct-09, at 11:09 AM, Topher wrote: So where do we post our videos and how do we link from one to the other? Did I miss the memo? Topher [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: GLOBALVLOMO
That's already taken. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.com wrote: How about the Burger King Tibetan Freedom Sequential Aping Video Marathon? BK_TFSAVM for short. I think it's important to use the underscore at the beginning to delineate the sponsor from the content. Or maybe we drop the sponsor altogether and just go with Sequential Aping Video Marathon? I'm not sure if we even need the sponsor at this point considering our recent quarterly earnings report. I'll leave that up to the board. Sent via dynamic wireless technology device -Original Message- From: mgmoon mgm...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:56:20 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: GLOBALVLOMO In 2007 we went with NaVloPoMo. In 2008 we changed that to VloMo08 If we have to name it anything, I like VloMo (Vlogging Month) Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Cardenas johndkarfi...@... wrote: correct me if I am wrong NABLOPOMO (national blog posting for a month) and I guess it was about for USA residents or local gringos then changed into NAVLOPOMO -but still with the national thing my suggestion is to change to GLOBALVLOMO since there are many international videobloggers who would like to be in regards John http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://twitwall.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar --- On Fri, 10/30/09, sull sullele...@... wrote: From: sull sullele...@... Subject: Re: [videoblogging] NatVlogMonth To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:15 AM But I don't know what that tag should be - this game doesn't even have a name yet. Is it the Navlo game, or the video chain, or the Navlopomo chain? This popped into my head when i read the lack of name. The Video Incremental #TVI1109 ? Might be good to not name it in association with navlopomo even though it is a subset... but if by chance people want to do this again in a few months, it can be done using its own name and month/year. I don't know, just a thought. n Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog. tv wrote: I've just sent an email to all the players with advice about contacting and passing videos to each other. But I'm not specifying any way to publish the videos. We've tried a few ways of curating, centralizing aggregating NaVloPoMo videos community, and everybody gets hung up on finding the best way to do it. But this is a decentralized game, a decentralized medium and a decentralized community. So, as far as I'm concerned, anything goes. Publish wherever you want, in whatever codec. Publish round animated gifs if you want. How we aggregate it, navigate it, reconstruct it, replay it, will be part of the game. Everybody can do it their own way, or create their own places to gather the videos and people. It'll no doubt change and develop as we go along through the month. You want to set up a Miro Community, a Posterous blog, a Twitter hashtag, a Facebook page, a wiki, a Yahoo Pipe RSS Feed? Or post all the video links here on the group? Go for it. I'm looking forward to seeing whether the videos will just be allowed to stand alone scattered around the web with simple links between them, or if people will want to get creative about how to collect display them. The only thing I recommend is that we use a tag for the game in addition to Navlopomo Navlopomo2009 - since it's different from NaVloPoMo. But I don't know what that tag should be - this game doesn't even have a name yet. Is it the Navlo game, or the video chain, or the Navlopomo chain? I don't know - you decide - I've done enough talking :) Rupert http://twittervlog. tv On 30-Oct-09, at 11:09 AM, Topher wrote: So where do we post our videos and how do we link from one to the other? Did I miss the memo? Topher [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
SInce you are a WordPress guy, why not try using VideoPress? On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Rupert, Thanks for your reply and sharing your knowledge. You make many good points. I do have advertising turned on in my videos but did just realize that one was set as Private and therefore didn't display the ads. I've changed that video to Public and now the ads are showing. I am hoping for a positive response from Blip as confirmation for me to continue. Sincerely, Adam W. Warner http://LearnWebTools.com http://WordPressModder.org My Recommended Web Hosting From: Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv rupert%40twittervlog.tv To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 10:51:56 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Seems to me that you're being misunderstood. The weird thing is that it seems almost deliberate. It reads like their stock position is that if anybody asks whether something they're doing breaches the ToS, they should err on the side of caution in their response and just say No. My personal reading of what you're doing is that it's fine under their ToS, but it's a bit depressing to see this kind of response from them, that doesn't seem to be trying to help you out or understand what it is that you're trying to do. Especially when they used to handle all support requests more quickly and positively than anyone else. I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. But perhaps the weight of HD content being uploaded to their servers, which they have to transcode and stream out, is costing them too much to be worth it. And I guess videoblogs and marketing and commercial videos often opt out of advertising, therefore don't make Blip any money. I know Vimeo banned videogame screencasts because they were costing too much in terms of processing time and bandwidth. Perhaps that's why Blip say We are not a good solution for screencasts - even though they're actually a great solution for your kind of screencasts. So. Add some post-roll adverts onto your videos, make them some money, and see how keen they are to nuke your account after that ;) Rupert On 28-Oct-09, at 1:24 PM, Adam Warner wrote: Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
with all due respect to the services... i say fuck'em all. if needed, i will create a page with a player and playlist. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Yes - I thought we could do this with a Blip playlist and player with browsable list of videos on the right hand side. Have two embeddable players - one during November that shows the latest video at the top, and one for afterwards that plays through all the videos in chronological sequence. I think Blip's playlist player is nicer than YouTube, and it plays H264 videos in their original format without conversion, whereas YouTube still crunches quality even in HQ mode . Just today Kath and I were wrangling with YouTube because it was unnecessarily buggering up thin animated lines in a video she'd made, even using their recommended upload settings. That said, though, it would also be great to have these on YouTube. I'm using YouTube annotations for another similar game I'm doing at the moment. I've recently started using Pixelpipe to easily upload to multiple sharing services at once. Makes it easy to upload to Blip, YouTube, Facebook, Myspace, Vimeo, Viddler, Flickr, Blogs - pretty much anywhere. On 20-Oct-09, at 11:22 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: Rupert, If everyone posts thier video to YouTube, you could make a playlist and add a new video everyday. Then you could play them in sequence with the contols that allow skiping ahead. --Steve --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: H YEAH! Brilliant. Every date is now taken - unless anybody drops out or needs to change, in which case please say so here as soon as possible. Adrian, I've left you at the start. Roll on November 1st! R On 20-Oct-09, at 1:03 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: Nov 29th --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote: Yup - no conflicts so far - it's all first come first served - will put into the Calendar whoever replies here with a date. http://tinyurl.com/navlocal On 19-Oct-09, at 11:08 PM, ernmander wrote: I'll go for the 18th if it's free :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell aliak77@ wrote: I'm in. could I do 15th (any day is ok if u need to shift me though) great idea Rupert! 2009/10/20 Ian Beaumont i.beaumont@ I'll volunteer to take the 14th Ian B - Original Message - From: Rupert Howe To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging %40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009 Brilliant! I've created a Google Calendar for it, which you can see here: http://tinyurl.com/navlocal Added Sull, Verdi, Quirk, Dee, Sean, Heath. Great start :) If anybody feels like tweeting it for those people who don't check this list daily, that'd be great - I'm away from Twitter today. Figure the hashtag should just be #navlopomo Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
i love rupert. just needed to put that out there. carry on. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: i can see advantages and disadvantages of adding more people formally on certain dates. And I'm reluctant to be the Dungeon Master here :) on the one hand there's a simplicity in the idea of a single chain of 30 videos. for this game. on the other hand, NaVloPoMo is an open month of making videos, and should be kept wide open - it's great when a whole bunch of people make videos responding to one thing. but i think we can have both. this game has a closed structure of the 30 dates with people definitely signed up to do videos on those dates - but that doesn't stop anybody who wants to responding to any of the videos at any time. i mean, i think it would be good if those people who have signed up would make a video that is influenced or inspired by the person who's signed up to do it on the day before. to keep the chain. but of course other people can also join in, responding to videos and maybe even starting their own tangential threads and conversations. I'd quite like to do that myself throughout the month. then the people who are signed up can respond to those other videos *as well as* the video they're scheduled to follow in this game. after all, we haven't defined the way that one video might inspire the next - people can respond to any element of a video - and they don't have to explain themselves, so it'll probably get pretty abstract in places. which provides room for all kinds of connections with multiple videos, not just one. So - yeah - don't feel like you have to only make one video next month if you want to make more - and don't feel like you can't play if you didn't bagsy a date before they were all taken. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 10:12 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: could we double up on days so everyone can play? maybe the person on the next day could choose one of the two or be inspired by both? 2009/10/21 Richard (Show) Hall rich...@richardshow.orgrichard%40richardshow.org All taken ... how sad :( ...richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day
agreed. previous years, it was just like trying to watch as many videos as you could because they were all posted in novemember. madness! and posting a video each day? no thanks. a week is ok. a month is not. not for me at least. but i tend to not want to post any old raw video. i've done it, but dont like doing it. i really wanted a smaller subset pool of videos/people to focus on. like reminiscent of 2004/2005 videoblogger days. that was a special time of net video realization where it got more social. i was posting video to blog posts since 2002. but not until i joined this mailing list in 2004 did the social element really get interesting to me. that time quickly ended as the online video boom emerged. and i've always missed it. NaVloPoMo as per Rupert's initiative is a perfect way to get some of that spirit back. 11/11 sull[eleven] On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: TOTALLY. I really want to encourage all those who want to do the NaVloPoMo challenge the way it was supposed to be - making 30 videos in 30 days - it's a great buzz, and I'll be watching! Who's up for it? Tag your videos Navlopomo, and I'll adjust the Twitter feed at @Navlopomo so that it's tweeting every video. I see the two really big draws of NaVloPoMo as 1) the challenge and 2) community/collaboration. I've enjoyed the challenge for the last two years - even if I was only 75% successful each time. Last year, though, I realised that finding time to make a video every day for a month was interfering with my enjoyment of watching responding to other people's videos. Especially with new baby and new job in a new house and new country. In the end, finding the time was causing too much stress, so I stopped. This year, with all the things I'm supposed to be doing for other people, there's no way I could let myself even start to do the daily challenge. So I thought that, instead of doing nothing, I'd like to suggest a small game that would build on the community/collaboration part of NaVloPoMo. Hopefully, I'll find some time to post quite a few other videos, too. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Oct-09, at 6:28 PM, Juan John Cardenas wrote: cool I am not saying that the group project is not great ... this is just my opinion..I think we are shortening the original Navloplomo deal...I see it like retreating instead of keep on trying to make a video a day per videoblogger.. I do remember it was taken as a CHALLENGE...and thats one of the reasons I got interested bout it John Dkar http://www.twitwall.com/johndkarfilms http://www.twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com From: drpoule...@gmail.com Drpoulette%40gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:56:09 + Subject: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009-we should -still try 1 video a day I may do one a day, too, but I will definitely play the game with everyone else. I think it will be a great group project. I look forward to seeing what you do, John. Dennis www.ymimexico.org/vlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, John Cardenas johndkarfi...@... wrote: one video a day is much better�..it looks great to�have�a variety of videobloggers trying to post their videos everyday ...I will keep on with the traditional- 1 video a day for November2009- �from my youtube channel... � regards � John Dkar � http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar � http://twitwall.com/johndkarfilms � http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms � � � [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links __ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] NaVloPoMo 2009
11:11 squat ;) On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] NaVloPoMo 2009
nice initiative. after last year, i actually wished for a smaller pool. more intimate. this will be a cool subset to follow. thanks for making it happen. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Sports highlight footage?
Consider the use of sports highlight footage by competing television networks. The networks have a mutual agreement whereby they can air the highlight footage, in return for letting other networks air the highlights to which they have exclusive rights. Even though the highlights are short, they are the most valuable part of a recording of a sports event. To the extent that it might be argued that fair use applied, it would not be to the highlights, but would be to the routine play in between the highlights - the type of footage that doesn't make for compelling news coverage. Also, there are exceptions to the mutual agreement, which is why you will frequently find that highlight footage from Olympic events is broadcast only on the network which purchased the rights to broadcast the Olympic games. http://www.expertlaw.com/library/intellectual_property/fair_use.html (first google result for: sports highlights fair use) Unless the point of the project is to rise this issue/debate of fair use for sports highlights (that would be an interesting experiment) then i think you may eventually risk the possibility of wasting your time by having to respond to some lawyers and take down the content. In the spirt of IDGAF, good luck finding more footage. I don't know of any specific repoz. sull On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.comwrote: Not when you don't care about outdated laws. There are people in Texas practicing sodomy right now, and I don't think they're worried about its legality. But yeah I should rephrase that. Copyrights are an issue, because they make it hard to get the source footage. What I'm going to do with it will fall under Fair Use. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Ian Beaumont i.beaum...@virgin.neti.beaumont%40virgin.net wrote: Copyrights are not an issue for this project. Erm, I hate to break this to you, but when it comes to sports, copyrights and other rights issues are ALWAYS an issue. Ian B - Original Message - From: Adam Quirk To: Videobloggers Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Sports highlight footage? Hey all, I'm making a couple videos featuring highlights from baseball and football. I've found some pretty decent stuff by torrenting some 100 best football plays DVDs and such, but I'm wondering if any of you know of any good online repositories for sports clips? Youtube is pretty quick to delete stuff from ESPN, and ESPN.com and MLB.com are both pretty worthless for this sort of thing. Copyrights are not an issue for this project. Thanks, Adam Quirk wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Keeping tapes
ditto, these are invaluable! On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:54 AM, scott stead scott.st...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah! Thanks Rupert for posting the link JC's 80's vids. I had only seen one or two of them so far - and don't visit enough! I love these. I wonder how many folks have drawers of this stuff sitting around. I think it's interesting - and John I'm glad you decided to revive them. Ahhh glorious VHS 80's awesome-ocity. -- Scott Stead www.scottstead.com www.documentaryclub.org c) 202.557.1291 e) scott.st...@gmail.com scott.stead%40gmail.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Sports highlight footage?
Copyrights are not an issue for this project. ha! Tell me more. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.comwrote: Hey all, I'm making a couple videos featuring highlights from baseball and football. I've found some pretty decent stuff by torrenting some 100 best football plays DVDs and such, but I'm wondering if any of you know of any good online repositories for sports clips? Youtube is pretty quick to delete stuff from ESPN, and ESPN.com and MLB.com are both pretty worthless for this sort of thing. Copyrights are not an issue for this project. Thanks, Adam Quirk wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] VideoPress from Automattic, Kaltura
very cool. http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/video/ Would you still use blip + wordpress? On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo.com wrote: Automattic is now offering VideoPress to wordpress.com users to allow for uploaded video hosting and several other features. Watch the video here and pay special attention when you get to 1:48. They briefly discuss self-hosted wordpress blogs. http://videopress.com/ You can learn more about using videopress with self hosted blogs on that same page in the lower right. Adam W. Warner [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] FTC rules on blogger Payola
Before I read through this long thread... Does this apply to anyone who makes a blog post or do you have to be some sort of professional blogger? Thanks. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:38 AM, elbowsofdeath st...@dvmachine.com wrote: I am pleased that the FTC has revised its guidelines so that they cover bloggers who do not disclose fee's or freebies they receive from companies: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8291825.stm I have not yet had time to read the full arguments of those who are against this, though I start from the position of viewing their stance with quite some skepticism. Thou shalt not shill without disclosure sounds fair enough to me. Cheers Steve Elbows [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Wave the state of the net in general
Anything you do could be the first time its been done. - Jay Dedman, October 2009 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: And I finally remembered the name of the video host of old: ourmedia. Ive just been catching up with where this and some other sites have ended up, they are still alive but not exactly bursting with momentum or giving us much to talk about. Speaking of which, are some of the conversations that used to happen on this group now taking place on twitter or friendfeed or peoples blogs or other communities, or are they not happening much at all now? Its nice to see this group busier of late, and Im just a wondering how to get a sense of the state of things, everything is so fragmented and based on popularity or social connections these days, Im a bit lost. It comes and goes. As you say, there are a lot more places where conversations are happening. Videoblogging has also become more and more ubiquitous. I still think we're in the new phase that is two-pronged: - Now that we have this great distribution mechanism for video, what video did we wanted to make in the first place? After three generations sucked in by broadcast TV, what do we want to say to each other now? - Much of online video is still based on the TV/film model (ie edited stories). Can we tell stories in different ways online? It's a pretty exciting time if you avoid getting overwhelmed. Anything you do could be the first time its been done. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] imac as an electronic kiosk
I tried this once on a thin client machine that i have http://webconverger.com Might be worth a shot. Also have used this product: http://www.screentime.com Sull [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] imac as an electronic kiosk
Jay, that is very cool. - sull http://vocal.ly On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a product that may or may not exist. Basically I want to turn my iMac into an electronic kiosk. I looking for kiosk software that plays or displays specific files on my Mac, at random. My goal is to select 25 video files (.mov), 400 still photos (.jpg) and 50 music files (,mp3) and let the software randomly display or play each fileno user input required. Anyone ever heard of such a thing? I suppose there are scripting tools that might allow me to do it myself, but I'm looking for a software app that makes it easy. This isnt really what you want, but I ran across this guy over the summer: http://www.perpetualartmachine.com/content/view/46/53/lang,en/ It's a system to let people submit videos that would then play publicly. I believe its open source using Joomla. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] should youtube just start a new brand for Pro Content?
i think it can be wedged while also being separated. an example would be a google search where you are presented with top youtube video results first. On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM, @sull sullele...@gmail.comsulleleven%40gmail.com wrote: Does anyone think that at this point YouTube/Google should just start a new site (company) specifically for Pro Content (professionally produced entertainment) and just promote the hell out of it on Youtube.com and various other Google owned sites/pages? Let YouTube continue to be the Broadcast Yourself service and filter out their partner content? Why mix it all together? Curious of your thoughts. I think Youtube knows they benefit from mixing it all together. Videobloggers/regular people are thousands of clips every hour helping grow their library and search ability. Commercial content then wedges itself in between all this. You even see advertising/promotion/pro-content feeling more amateur so it has a whiff of authenticity. By making a Pro/Commercial siteit lets me know here is where they will try to sell me on stuff. it wont feel like a cool playground anymore where anything can happen. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] should youtube just start a new brand for Pro Content?
Does anyone think that at this point YouTube/Google should just start a new site (company) specifically for Pro Content (professionally produced entertainment) and just promote the hell out of it on Youtube.com and various other Google owned sites/pages? Let YouTube continue to be the Broadcast Yourself service and filter out their partner content? Why mix it all together? Curious of your thoughts. sull [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Open Video
i try to look at how things might be in 5 years if x happens or y doesnt happen etc. i wouldnt discourage any efforts to make a premium open standard especially if a widely popular web browser will give you native support of that format. look back, and what did we have for video on the web? RealMedia ( http://real.com). they owned audio/video on the web. back then, flash was a joke. now barely anyone thinks about Real and all focus is on Flash. point is, anything can change. the future wont show us flash being obsolete. but it certainly can give us a competing open format that can co-exist and like i said, potentially be a critical component for open media producers to leverage if/when the current crop of formats that are not open become costly to use for profit. sull On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Steve Watkins st...@dvmachine.com wrote: It will be tough to displace h.264... Its everywhere now, new DivX for Windows is h.264 based (though uses .mkv file wrapper format). And from what I can tell both Windows 7 and Silverlight 3 will support h.264. Increasingly, hardware that we record and watch video on supports h.264. And as you point out, its hard sell the open stuff because of lack of practical advantage to most, an even tougher problem now than when we had these discussions a few years back. Mozilla want an open standard because one of the most interesting aspects of the new generation of browsers, based on new standards for html and friends, is embedded video tags. But there needs to be a good format available that browsers support, for there to be much reason for developers to use such tags. It would have been easier for them to get somewhere with that if Flash had not come to support h.264. But it does, so its likely to remain the dominant in-browser way to deliver video to the widest range of users, different operating systems browsers. Its a mess. And the codec itself will struggle to beat h.264 for quality/filesize/cpu use balance, because so many of the things that made h.264 better than mpeg4 are patented, which defeats the whole point of the open codec. And its not like the license fee issues of h.264 trap enough people to cause a large enough stink and legal inconvenience / something that feels like the trampling of our freedoms. Youtube didnt get where it is today because of h.264 licensing issues preventing the competition from existing. If something beyond normal video, eg interactivity, genuine multi media, really captured the public imagination, there would be a chance to try to fight that battle in that space. But it hasnt really happened, and even if it did, flash h.264 platforms run by some web 2.0 startup would move quickly to provide the winning user experience on that front. Personally the only battle I think is worth the effort in the browser video space, is the issue of energy consumption. There is some sizeable waste here that can be eliminated by sane use of existing technology, whether open or not. h.264 decoding built into computer chipsets exists, but needs to be pushed harder, especially for netbooks. And I havent seen an implementation thats working in-browser, I know flash tries to use some GPU for certain parts of the decoding but much more needs to be done. Theora will struggle to get dedicated decoding stuff for their format into chipsets, but they might be able to harness GPU's really well with their browser video players, if they choose to go in that direction. I might investigate pushing that agenda. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Brook Hinton bhin...@... wrote: My only concern is that we don't have ANY high quality web video codecs yet, and I fear the results of settling for mediocrity as a standard prematurely. I mean h.264-level quality in an open video format would be great for now, but even h.264 has to be carefully encoded to get acceptably mediocre results for anything beyond news, straight documentation, and talking head videos, and even that's at data rates many people can't download. As a video artist who looks to the web as a new format and venue, this concerns me. Yep...the video creators are WAY ahead of the developers. But I think we just got to jump in. we need a community of FOSS (free and open source) developers who become as passionate about video codecs as you do, Brook. it's going to probably take 5 years for a solid foundation is built so open source codecs can be at the cutting edge. I know a big question is simply: why should I care about open codecs? aren't codecs free now? Flash and quicktime are monetarily free for the most part. Its difficult to find arguments for this now. The concern is when either/both these codecs become totally dominant...and web video is the new TV for lack
Re: [videoblogging] Open Video
an inevitable initiative that finally is getting some legs. won't be meaningful for awhile but in time, it will be a HUGE deal i think. eventually, this playground will turn into a country club. so it will be critical to have open video to sustain the people that make-up the longtail/torso. net video is the new tv. steps need to be made now to assure that we can all play/work within this venue in the coming years. can't just assume corporate interests wont step in and make things difficult. i'd even support a government backing of this initiative as well. good time for it ;) sull On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Andrew Baron and...@rocketboom.com wrote: Anyone have any thoughts on this open video initiative? http://www.techmeme.com/090126/p99#a090126p99 CODEC: http://theora.org/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: feeds into mogulus
thanks jan. i've been wondering if mogulus is the bliptv of live broadcasting so to speak ;) been itching to try some live stuff myself... not to necessarily do a live show but just get familiar with the tech/services around this. its an area i had decided long ago to ignore because the quality was godawful and i personally was not turned on by LIVE stuff like some were/are. but not tech is better and its def more interesting to me. 24artists24hours also was inspiring/motivating. sull On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jan McLaughlin jannie@gmail.comwrote: Having used a bunch of these services in various applications (including the live broadcast of 35 and VlogEurope 07), I've stuck with Mogulus for my own stuff. Not that I do altogether that much live... That said, I like that I can easily 'go' live and create a storyboard that lives on with material around that 'live' work. I like that I can auto import media via RSS. I like that the vids and their site can be branded. That their pro level exists indicates a commitment to scaling the thing. Should the need arise, it's there. Some comfort in that... If anyone's interested in playing around with two remote location producers working back and forth live, I've been looking for someone to fool around with that interface...let me know off-list. Best, Jan On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:11 PM, danielmcvicar danielmcvi...@yahoo.comdanielmcvicar%40yahoo.com wrote: I think I found my solution...mix the video and audio, and then advc 110 it into my computer. I been playing with mogulus, I like it. I use Cam Twist to get my webcam (MAC) to read. I'd like to hear opinions about Mogulus, Justin.tv, Ustream and all... What do you think? D --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar danielmcvi...@... wrote: Hi! I am loking to do a feed from a separate camera through a computer (hopefully Mac) into mogulus. Anyone been doing this? Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] More than 10 minutes
part 1 and part 2 ? On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: Apparently if you were approved as a Director before they reduced the limit for Directors, you can still upload long videos. Has anybody here retained that superpower?! Jay and Ryanne have a fantastic 20 minute video that *needs* to be available on YouTube so it can get wider viewing. http://ryanishungry.com/2009/01/21/home-birth-diy-labor-and-delivery/ If not, Jay, you could upload it in 2 parts. Before birth and after...? Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 22-Jan-09, at 5:32 PM, Jay dedman wrote: Is there anyway to upload a video longer than 10 minutes on Youtube? I know in the old days, you could become a Director. But is there anyway around this limitation? Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ Creative Mobile Filmmaking Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Feedburner is over, but
warnings of this have been posted here years ago ;) On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: It's a good thing. I was wondering why Google were keeping Feedburner separate - I thought it showed a lack of commitment. But badly handled. Seems like they're rushing to make changes and save costs. Only a month to transfer all your feeds? After February 28th, you won't be able to access your account at feedburner.com How many people won't know about this, and will get caught out? I certainly didn't get an email, and I have a lot of different feeds with them. If you have a Feedburner feed, go login now and transfer your account to Google. I just did it. Three clicks. Took less than a minute to do it all. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 19-Jan-09, at 10:15 AM, Jay dedman wrote: seems to just turn into something else: https://www.google.com/support/feedburner/bin/answer.py?answer=126303 Our vision when FeedBurner joined Google was to help bring the best of what FeedBurner offered in syndication publisher tools and solutions to the AdSense platform, and vice versa. In the time since the merger, the FeedBurner engineering team has joined the Google engineering team (but still focuses on the same set of tools for RSS monetization, analysis, and optimization) and is not managed as a separate company or subsidiary. jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ Creative Mobile Filmmaking Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Youtube to TV (duh)
though i am hoping for a better UI, the roku box i bought last year has been solid. http://www.roku.com i'm sure youtube will be made available on it along with the default netflix and amazon vod etc. prob hulu too. my tv is like a decade old... so the next tv i get will have all this built in... including an actual computer/os. it's this type of evolution that will at least make the Cable TV companies upgrade their antiquated piece of crap software and the 50 button remote control! sull On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Youtube announced some deals so you can watch videos on your TV. I highlighted the sentence where they talk about Open TV. It's interesting the language they use. I guess if anyone can pry open the doors to network/cable TV, it would be them. Jay http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=sDFlZe7FwJI Have you ever wanted to just sit on your couch and watch YouTube on your TV? Well, now that's possible via YouTube for Television, initially available through the Sony PS3 and Nintendo Wii game consoles at www.youtube.com/tv. Currently in beta, the TV Website offers a dynamic, lean-back, 10-foot television viewing experience through a streamlined interface that enables you to discover, watch and share YouTube videos on any TV screen with just a few quick clicks of your remote control. With enlarged text and simplified navigation, it makes watching YouTube on your TV as easy and intuitive as possible. Optional auto-play capability enables users to view related videos sequentially, emulating a traditional television experience. The TV Website is available internationally across 22 geographies and in over 12 languages. As previously blogged, YouTube has partnered directly with major TV and set-top box manufacturers to bring YouTube into the living room. Still, very few such devices today contain a Web browser or provide access to YouTube. *Our hope is that this site may help to accelerate an industry evolution towards open television access to Web video. *Over time, we plan to add support for additional TV devices that provide Web browsers. So grab some popcorn, gather your friends and sit back and enjoy the YouTube TV Website. -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] welcome to my dream
nice. just watched 2001:A Space Odyssey last night actually. On 1/16/09, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a petty awesome series of videos made by folks inside the International Space Station. A Day In The Life Onboard The ISS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyjRc_oxKV4 It's totally in the style of a personal videoblog. This feeds my obsession with space. when I first started videoblogging, I dreamed of folks making short videos while hanging out up in the space to help convey what it's like. the more home movies of the banality of space, the more it's demystified. Much better than an IMAX creation. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Boing Boing Video seeks new production space
yep On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM, David King davidleek...@gmail.comdavidleeking%40gmail.com wrote: FYI xeni - this list is set up to auto post to twitter, so it has the potential for rather public viewing... though it's probably only geeky list members who are subscribed to the twitter feed! Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?
I created a new mailing list today: Artists in the Cloud http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud I remembered this thread afterward so it may be of interest to some here who are looking for a new source of discourse. This list is for those interested in the techniques, style, hardware, economics, sustainability, collaboration theory and anything else related to using the cloud as a primary venue and medium for artists and where the global culture is concentrating. sull On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Brook Hinton bhin...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Videoblogginglistfolk. I'm considering starting a list for folks making or interested in work made for the web (or using the web as a venue) that is coming from an experimental film / video art / installation direction. The list would focus on aesthetics and theory as well as tech help, economics/sustainability, and anything else about online cinema art and its relationship to its offline context. Would love to hear from anyone who would be interested and also any concerns or desires about such a list. Thanks. -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?
nice, i need to carve out some time to watch the archive! nice job, michael! On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: Me too. And since he's too shy, let me link to the 24hours24artists archive - you can see almost all the 24 hours at the site, at: http://24hours24artists.com/archive/ You all might be interested to check out the videoblogger contributions: Loiez, Robert Croma, Jen Proctor, Wreck and Salvage and Jay Dedman Ryanne Hodson, Richard BF - and, of course, Verdi and Aren. But there's a lot of other artists doing all kinds of other performances there, too. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 9-Jan-09, at 9:30 AM, Michael Verdi wrote: After having done the 24 hour 24 artists project this idea makes a lot more sense to me :-) Subscribed. - Verdi On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM, @sull sullele...@gmail.comsulleleven%40gmail.com wrote: I created a new mailing list today: Artists in the Cloud http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud I remembered this thread afterward so it may be of interest to some here who are looking for a new source of discourse. This list is for those interested in the techniques, style, hardware, economics, sustainability, collaboration theory and anything else related to using the cloud as a primary venue and medium for artists and where the global culture is concentrating. sull On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Brook Hinton bhin...@gmail.combhinton%40gmail.com wrote: Howdy Videoblogginglistfolk. I'm considering starting a list for folks making or interested in work made for the web (or using the web as a venue) that is coming from an experimental film / video art / installation direction. The list would focus on aesthetics and theory as well as tech help, economics/ sustainability, and anything else about online cinema art and its relationship to its offline context. Would love to hear from anyone who would be interested and also any concerns or desires about such a list. Thanks. -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://michaelverdi.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Boxee: open source media player
i recently installed it and it's all good. it fills a void where joost failed, boxee will succeed. i'd like to look into building plugins for this thing. and using it with a cheap touch screen tablet as a controller for a TV. nice to see an open platform for interfacing with any media source. happy09- sull On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: Enric mentioned this site recently which I just now checked out: http://www.boxee.tv They have a video explainer on the front page. It's not open yet accept through invite, but look interesting. Supposedly it lets you watch stuff from around the web in one place. The wikipedia article explains more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxee It's licensed GPL which is encouraging because people can build on it. anyone actually try it yet? Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Does the Blog format work for Vlogging anymore?
pt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_RSS On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Pat Cook patsbl...@live.com wrote: Hi everyone: The problem isn't with the blog format itself, but rather with the aggregation protocol used (RSS). I say this because for MONTHS now, I've been wanting to add 3GP versions of my videos so that people with cell phones and other 3G portable devices can subscribe to my videos just like people with iPods can since there are MANY more phones and other devices out there than there are iPods themselves (Mind you, this DOES NOT include the iPhone, which of course can just as easily play anything encoded/transcoded for the iPod itself), but with RSS 2.0 being as (For lack of a better word) archaic as it is, THE ONLY way I know of that this can be done is if a SEPARATE blog is created. It's time for RSS 3.0 to be rolled out (And the sooner THE BETTER). Just my opinion... Cheers Pat Cook patsbl...@live.com patsblogs%40live.com Denver, CO BLOGS PODCASTS AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturns.blogspot.com/ AS MY WEIGHT LOSS WORLD TURNS - http://asmyweightlossworldturns.blogspot.com/ KB0OXD CYBERSHACK | HAM MUSINGS - http://kb0oxd.blogspot.com/ KB0OXD CYBERSHACK | SITE STATION NEWS - http://kb0oxdcybershacknews.blogspot.com/ THE LEFT WING CONSERVATIVE - http://www.geocities.com/theleftwingconservative/ **COMING NOVEMBER 21 - Pat's OTR Podcast - http://backtothefutureradio.blogspot.com/ **AND** THE RETURN OF Back To The Future TV | THE COMMERCIALS (BOTH the iPod Flash Versions) **COMING SOON - Back To The Future TV | THE SHOWS (In iPod Flash) From: schlomo rabinowitz Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:01 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Does the Blog format work for Vlogging anymore? I've never been a fan of the blog format for video (even when putting together the last Vloggercon, I was against making the site in the blog format, but was alone in that thought). Though I ended up not using it for my own personal videoblog site (many hours of discussion with web/dev friends steered me away), I still believe using something like Sweetcron could be an interesting way of showing your work. http://www.sweetcron.com/ Especially when people are putting various sorts of videos on a variety of video hosts. For instance, some people put teasers on youtube and Behind The Scenes on Vimeo. But you want a site that will aggregate all of that content. Anyway, my two cents. Blog is Dead, Long Live the Blog. Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking AIM:schlomochat On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: I did a video rant about this a couple of weeks ago. I've been thinking about different layouts and ways of presenting things since then. Great thoughts, Ron - particularly what you note how we're comfortable with line-by-line communication in a vertical format, but how it's limited the success of the traditional videoblog - and how daunting it is for a viewer to face a bunch of videos in a line down the page. I've seen this problem when watching people go to my videoblog. It's not just a problem for the viewer, it's a problem for the producer. Reading your post made me realise how much I've forced myself to like the blog format because that's what everyone uses - even though initially I thought it sucked. But when we started out, it was the easiest way to do publishing and podcasting. Now I've totally fallen out of love with the blog format. So much so that I can't seem to drum up the motivation to put any energy into making videos until I can feel good about how I publish them. I've been thinking about the successful shows you mentioned - FU, Ninja, Rocketboom. Wreck Salvage and LoFi St Louis have good new designs, too - which encourage people to browse more freely and don't force the reader to deal with this heirarchy of freshness/relevance. For me, I think there may be an element of needing more interlinked networking between producers - to allow people to browse outside of your own videos. Jesus, that sounds like a web-ring. But isn't that the best thing about YouTube? That you can choose to see more videos by the same person or jump to something related but made by someone totally different? I don't know. I'm stuck. But it's good to read your thoughts on it. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 10-Dec-08, at 10:05 AM, Ron Watson wrote: Great topic, Heath! I've been doing online video since 1998, and I was very excited with the explosion of digital video in 2005. It was awesome! I dabbled with wordpress and the blog format for a while, but it was obvious to me rather quickly that the long vertical videoblog (and blog, for that matter) was a
Re: [videoblogging] No blogging: different visual creations
back when i was playing with the showinabox people, one of my propositions was to utilize your wordpress rss feed (or other xml flavor) using the simplepie wordpress plugin (parser) and then build templates however you want and inject whatever data from the feed that you want. this was an alternative to staying within the confines of the wordpress theming engine. an example of this is located here: http://videobloggers.org/vlogwall/ although this is not using the wordpress feed, instead using a mefeedia feed. the nice thing about it is that you can leave your blog as is and have an alternative presentation of your content made available to visitors. i also like just uisng the flash player + playlisting approach with some javascript api usage to handle contextual content and comments etc. sull On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM, J. N. P. zen...@art.com.pt wrote: Hi! I had a project last year that actually didn't went forward enough to go public, but i had started building the concept and tried the geeky details of it. What i ended up doing was: 1) The wordpress was used to create the content with the categories and tags and from that i extracted various things: 1.1) (video) RSS per categorie; 1.2) archives with the videos on it just as wordpress show content by categories; 1.3) the wordpress view of things is the second way of watch/search the content (very blog like always) 2) But i took the various RSS and with those i created a first page that is actually the Jeroen FLV player ( http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=JW_FLV_Media_Player ), because that playes is very flexible and is capable of being feed with our RSS wordpress... I think you can build a nice TV like that. In alternative you could just use the play lists from blip and use the blip player, but doing it the other way you can integrate the flash player in such a way that when you are playing a particular video you end up with that wordpress post/article also showing up somewhere in a frame, so that you can still have comments and such. This concept is nothing new and unfortunately i never build it up completely to test it further but i hope some day i will have a new project to build and test it further and hopefully add more to this conversation theme. thats my 2 cents of Euro. ;) Rgds, ZN On Dec 11, 2008, at 17:20 , Jay dedman wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: One of the options I'm considering is still using my WP backend, and having a front page which was big image map with various hotspots leading to different videos, categories pages - either a picture that I could either draw scan make amendments to, or a collage I'd make in Illustrator/Photoshop. I've made some sites for clients like this - eg http:// www.sydneyraewhite.com - it'd be like a manual version of your drag drop desktop idea, Jay. im looking forward t what people come up with. http://www.vbs.tv/ is another example of making the page looks interesting. (though i hate the autoload video). the whole background image is part of the actual function of the page. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Does the Blog format work for Vlogging anymore?
was just going to write the same thing, jay ;) On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, I think there may be an element of needing more interlinked networking between producers - to allow people to browse outside of your own videos. Jesus, that sounds like a web-ring. But isn't that the best thing about YouTube? That you can choose to see more videos by the same person or jump to something related but made by someone totally different? it would be a webring which isnt a bad thing. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Presenting stills in video
that sounds very interesting. as is the topic. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm too tired to remember the name, but I saw a British TV documentary last year that took old archive photos and subtly animated elements in the background or foreground. So parts of a photo behind or in front of people which were sky or grass or sea would be replaced by video of the same. Was done very well - not drawing too much attention to itself - so there'd be a slight shimmer on the sea, or a slight blowing in the grass. Then sometimes a slight Ken Burns effect was added, but with a 3D effect created by splitting the foreground, middleground and background elements into separate layers and animating them appropriately. Creating a slight feeling of tracking towards the subject rather than just zooming. I expect a slight grain/flicker was added to the image to make it seem like a video GV rather than a still, too. People who weren't film- savvy might not even have noticed. It definitely brought a little life to old pictures and blurred the boundary between them and the film/video clips they were intercut with. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 7-Dec-08, at 9:17 PM, Brook Hinton wrote: There's a clever section in Plagues and Pleasures on the Salton Sea that uses a physical set, tricky camerawork and speed control to deal with archival photos in an historical background segment. I don't think it's online though. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Fwd: SMIL 3.0 is a now W3C Recommendation
nice. :) On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all you SMIL fans... -- Forwarded message -- From: Thierry Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmichel%40w3.org Date: Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM Subject: SMIL 3.0 is a now W3C Recommendation To: www-smil [EMAIL PROTECTED] www-smil%40w3.org SMIL 3.0 is a now W3C Recommendation http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-SMIL3-20081201/ Here's the news item (currently top story on home page): http://www.w3.org/News/2008#item202 Thierry Michel W3C Team Contact for the SYMM Working Group. --- Quoting from the Recommendation --- This version: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-SMIL3-20081201/ Latest SMIL 3 version: http://www.w3.org/TR/SMIL3/ Latest SMIL Recommendation: http://www.w3.org/TR/SMIL/ Previous version: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PR-SMIL3-20081006/ Editors: Dick Bulterman, CWI - Jack Jansen, CWI - Pablo Cesar, CWI - Sjoerd Mullender, CWI - Eric Hyche, RealNetworks - Marisa DeMeglio, DAISY Consortium - Julien Quint, DAISY Consortium - Hiroshi Kawamura, NRCD - Daniel Weck, NRCD - Xabiel García Pañeda, Universidad de Oviedo - David Melendi, Universidad de Oviedo - Samuel Cruz-Lara, INRIA - Marcin Hanclik ACCESS Co., Ltd - Daniel F. Zucker, Nokia - Thierry Michel, W3C. Abstract This document specifies the third version of the Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language (SMIL, pronounced smile). SMIL 3.0 has the following design goals: * Define an XML-based language that allows authors to write interactive multimedia presentations. Using SMIL, an author may describe the temporal behaviour of a multimedia presentation, associate hyperlinks with media objects and describe the layout of the presentation on a screen. * Allow reusing of SMIL syntax and semantics in other XML-based languages, in particular those who need to represent timing and synchronization. For example, SMIL components are used for integrating timing into XHTML [XHTML10] and into SVG [SVG]. * Extend the functionalities contained in the SMIL 2.1 [SMIL21] into new or revised SMIL 3.0 modules. * Define new SMIL 3.0 Profiles incorporating features useful within the industry. Status of this document [excerpts] This document has been reviewed by W3C Members, by software developers, and by other W3C groups and interested parties, and is endorsed by the Director as a W3C Recommendation. It is a stable document and may be used as reference material or cited from another document. W3C's role in making the Recommendation is to draw attention to the specification and to promote its widespread deployment. This enhances the functionality and interoperability of the Web. This SMIL 3.0 edition is a new version, it extends the functionalities contained in SMIL 2.1 [SMIL21], incorporating new features useful within the industry. This SMIL3.0 W3C Recommendation supersedes the 13 December 2005 SMIL 21 Recommendation [SMIL21]. The SMIL 3.0 test suite along with an implementation report are publicly released and are intended solely to be used as proof of SMIL 3.0 implementability. It is only a snapshot of the actual implementation behaviors at one moment of time, as these implementations may not be immediately available to the public. The interoperability data is not intended to be used for assessing or grading the performance of any individual implementation. This document has been produced by the SYMM Working Group as part of the W3C Synchronized Multimedia Activity, following the procedures set out for the W3C Process. The goals of the SYMM Working Group are discussed in the SYMM Working Group Charter. The authors of this document are the SYMM Working Group members. Different parts of the document have different editors. Please report errors in this document to [EMAIL PROTECTED]www-smil%40w3.org- (public archives) including the prefix '[SMIL30 REC]' in the subject line. This document was produced by a group operating under the 5 February 2004 W3C Patent Policy. W3C maintains a public list of any patent disclosures made in connection with the deliverables of the group; that page also includes instructions for disclosing a patent. An individual who has actual knowledge of a patent which the individual believes contains Essential Claim(s) must disclose the information in accordance with section 6 of the W3C Patent Policy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] My best link of this year
good stuff! On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't resist ;-) For me is the best link of this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM Enjoy it Peace and change Loiez Loiez Deniel http://www.loiez.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] l.deniel%40modele11.com ! new cell phone : +33 06 08 31 96 98 Skype : ultimcodex M'appeler gratuitement de votre PC sur mon portable http://call.mylivio.com/loiez [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
No doubt that there is truth in the expressed misconceptions of what Independent Net Media encompasses. I dont even know the best terminology these days and language always helps define ( whats a vlog? ;) User Generated Content is NOT EpicFu. So yeah that must be annoying to hear. But I wonder if it is a deliberate misinterpretation in order to make a weak point about where their focus is today. I mean, how can they not know that some UGC uploaded to YouTube (ie. webcam talking head or silly cat videos) with zero production is not in the same category as the episodic productions (aka webisodes) that have fans/audience/community/brand/merch/influence/value/market share etc? They know. They just don't want to add any more value to their own competition... especially if they know that they may end up buying that competition up Why drive up the price? I understand the dire straits involved in being a full-time Internet Entertainment Production Studio or whatever term fits... Starving Artist? I know these past 3 or 4 years have been difficult experimental times for both content creators and startups. With risk and failure comes valuable knowledge. And that's not to say that there have not been many forms of success. Amazing success stories. But it is still early and the landscape has become more unpredictable in the short-term. There is also bad short-sighted or overhyped data being thrown around which doesnt help. I think a crossroads has to be reached if you are in this business. Do you want to (can you?) continue creaitng your own market and controlling your own destiny or do you want to pitch to the big networks to sell your brand and assets and lose control? You know who will be driving the terms of those contracts. Even the best established Indie brands will have to succumb to less than desirable contracts with a high risk of the brand dissolving after a short run (which may or may not be what the big network wants to happen). It's a tough situation. Damned if you do, Damned if you dont. Some may feel exhausted and just want some decent financial exit for all their hard work so that they can move on with new creative projects. And that is fine. I'm just trying to put things in perspective even if its my own unique perspective. And a little devils advocate to keep the conversation going ;) sull On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really enjoy saying all the thing you do as well, Jacek. The problem is that it's time the funding sources of all types stop seeing this as experimental and something for later. The goods are there NOW. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bid for Placement on YouTube
true that may be. but youtube stands alone. the same can be said of TV, and like it or not, youtube has become TV of the Internet in the context of audience. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: No no no no no. No. Nobody makes money on this shit except google. Vloggers will make peanuts, and traditional clients aren't up to spending money on such a risky spend. This is the devaluation of content that I fear may be the ass end of the democratization of media. I guess freedom ain't free. Serial and artistic content does NOT belong on YouTube. They have put the creator last from the beginning. 2008/11/13 liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] daredoll%40gmail.com we figured this was coming. first two times youtube deleted us it was after we got a million channel views. seemed we were required to upgrade somehow to continue being seen. so, i wonder if my money is good with them. wonder if i am protected from being deleted. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know many of you would be opposed to buying ads to get your content noticed, but what makes this auction process different? You are effectively buying an ad. I know Gary V has purchased google adwords to promote some of his content, depending on his motive buying placement on YouTube might also make sense. If you have a crappy video, no amount of money will get people to watch it. Buying an ad can be the only option for a great video to escape obscurity. As for Brooks' comment re: ignoring ads, someone must click on them because they pay me quite nicely. This will be no different. Some people will ignore promoted videos, some people won't. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com On Nov 12, 2008 4:44 PM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point. but there must be some value in featured spots. maybe they have some metrics to share. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My eyes automatically... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor Mobile: +33625497654 Fax: +33177722734 Skype: thejeffreytaylor Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
Why do they NEED TO GET IT? Why do we feel like we NEED THEM TO GET IT? Co-Existing not feasible? Is this about getting picked up by the old suits or is this about Independents being able to leverage technology to publish their works and fins a market? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
I'd venture to say that NBC could start a digital studio AND cut a deal with the well-established net shows, if they wanted to. And maybe they do. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube
well said. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any more of a problem with this than I do the Sponsored Ads on Google. Like Brook, I filter them out, but a lot of people don't - so Google make billions of dollars of profit from them and from Adsense ads on other sites. As I noted here before, Google's revenue and profit were up a third and a quarter respectively in Q3 2008 largely off the back of these things. You're wrong if you think YouTube popular and featured videos aren't already gamed and bought. It's a stinking den of corruption in there. You should see the kind of bullshit tricks that 'viral' production and advertising companies pull to get their videos featured. This is just making an honest and open auction of it. If I had a client or a video that I think should get top billing for a niche subject, instead of trying to orchestrate some kind of incredibly spammy and unethical view-ramping campaign (and risk getting caught and deleted), I could just buy a sponsored slot. On a site where something like 10 hours of video are being uploaded every minute, that's about as organic and fair a way of buying attention as I can imagine. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
of interest... http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/13/online-video-wheres-the-money/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
wow, just noticed this new post on rrw. synchronicity. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/netflix_ceo_thinks_the_time_is.php On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:34 AM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm watching netflix on TV with http://www.roku.com And soon you can use your TiVo to access the netflix VOD catalog. Personally, i'd like to see netflix become more involved with distributing independent net video. I always admired Red Envelope, which was shut down recently ( http://www.indiewire.com/biz/2008/07/netflix_exits_a.html). But since they want to focus on digital media distribution technology, then tapping into the content found on the web seems obvious and the time is ripe. It could bolster their catalog in a positive way by simply having current content. So more than NBC, CBS, BBC etc... I want to see netflix dig in. besides, their name jives :) On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:01 AM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of interest... http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/13/online-video-wheres-the-money/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
I agree, Rupert. I had written an additional 2 paragraphs about TV as it is and tonights experience trying to sit down with no interruptions, no puter... just sit down and watch some show i never heard of (Life on Mars - weird!). And it was intolerable with all the commercial breaks. I felt like i was getting way off-topic with a rant. and there ya go talking some on that point. Now i'm reading this rrw netflix article after i was mentioning netflix. even used the word ripe! maybe it was me who invented YouTube! ;) @sull On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for posting, but it and the comments that followed were just annoying. Totally misses the point. One day soon someone will come up with a video interface that truly brings internet TV to the couch for more than just geeks, which shows more than just badly encoded 5 minute YouTube funnies and stolen archive clips. Then some money will come. And not the kind of money that they extort for TV. On top of that, the video content will be densely interwoven with a mass of other videos and media and text pages and social networks. All of which provide their own monetisation opportunities. Adverts will be related to the content in some way. It won't just be advertisers having a single one-way chance to interrupt your favourite shows for five minutes every quarter of an hour to fire shouty messages at you that are totally unrelated to what you're watching, hoping that some of their shit sticks next time you're out shopping. Thank god. I don't even really care about this that passionately - I don't intend to make my living from internet TV or a web 2.0 startup. But all this seems so obvious to me that I'm just amazed when other people rail against it as if online video is just some kind of passing fad. Whatever. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 13-Nov-08, at 10:01 PM, @sull wrote: of interest... http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/13/online-video-wheres-the-money/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type
I'm watching netflix on TV with http://www.roku.com And soon you can use your TiVo to access the netflix VOD catalog. Personally, i'd like to see netflix become more involved with distributing independent net video. I always admired Red Envelope, which was shut down recently ( http://www.indiewire.com/biz/2008/07/netflix_exits_a.html). But since they want to focus on digital media distribution technology, then tapping into the content found on the web seems obvious and the time is ripe. It could bolster their catalog in a positive way by simply having current content. So more than NBC, CBS, BBC etc... I want to see netflix dig in. besides, their name jives :) On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:01 AM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of interest... http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/13/online-video-wheres-the-money/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
In other words, video is the new webpage. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I agree; I think some viewers will click and purchase. I also predict that videos on the youtubes will be obscured with dozens of little text boxes. All of them linking/selling/contextualizing the video to death so that the video is just the delivery mechanism for these little boxes of commerce and comments. I'm only kinda kidding. But I do kinda believe it. Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] cheap xactiHD cam on Amazon
I bought this camera last December for this same price special (although the 8gb card i bought was $30). For $300, It's been a great camera. Though I think it should permanently be at around this price point. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:05 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey all Ran into a great deal on the XactiHD 700 on Amazon and thought some folks here may be interested. I've played around with it before (though I dont own this model) and liked it. Great cam for the price: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9Z0T0?ie=UTF8tag=factorycity-20link_code=as3camp=211189creative=373489creativeASIN=B000W9Z0T0#productPromotions And for $17 more, they throw in an 8gb card for it. Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube
interesting. imagine this together with crowdfunding efforts. you can tap your network/community to raise money to get your video noticed. maybe it's an important video message, or for promoting independent artists or for local political campaigns etc etc. i see nothing wrong with this. it is, afterall, almost 2009. we should be ready to accept such net video concepts. @sull On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ok, I promise to stop emailing the list for the rest of the day. I know I've been kinda talky today. BUT! I thought you may want to read about how you can pay for placement on the Youtubes. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/youtube_puts_placement_of_user.php Personally, this makes my stomach queasy, but you may be into paying for placement. Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube
good point. but there must be some value in featured spots. maybe they have some metrics to share. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My eyes automatically block out google's sponsored links in searches, in the same way they do ads, and I suspect any sponsored you tube video will also be brain-filtered. It seems like a natural response and I would think most people end up doing this - so I'm not sure spending any effort on winning a sponsored video auction will prove worthwhile unless its an overtly selling-something (like a pasta maker/espresso machine hybrid or something) video. But maybe it's just me. I know if I search for something in google, a few minutes later I can tell you the first few hits that came up, but I can't tell you any of the stuff that was in that sponsored section. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Upload Cinema (Amsterdam)
nice. i was just thinking about similar concepts the other night after a movie night at my friends house. i'd like to host a net video night where i basically do what Rupert has done in curating some of his favorite videos into a playlist and injecting his own brief commentaries (http://vimeo.com/groups/vlomo/videos/2186025). i would also like to capture some of the evening and post that footage together with the curated videos. and i think it would be interesting if people around the globe did this as well and connect it all. having access to a theatre is obviously a treat... but intimate showings in our homes with small groups of people is feasible as well. it's a concept with legs. it's very intimate and helps promote all sorts of independent folks who are participating in todays net video culture. sull On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've spoken on this list about a system where people can put on screenings in their home town. This project in Amsterdam is getting close to this system. Jay __ http://www.uploadcinema.nl/about.php ABOUT UPLOAD CINEMA Upload Cinema is a film club that takes the best web films to the big screen. Every fist Monday of the month at 9.30 PM a fresh program of Internet shorts is screened at movie theater De Uitkijk in Amsterdam. Upload Cinema is a cozy get-together for people who enjoy watching, sharing and making web films. Our aim is simple: to offer each month an inspiring and entertaining one-hour program of Internet shorts. We don't have a fixed formula. It seems fun to start with a monthly theme to which everyone can contribute. But we might also invite a guest curator to compile his/her own film program. Or have a 'no concept' mix of crazy stuff that we've seen online. Upload Cinema is for members only. The movie theater is small and we appreciate a friendly and committed crowd. You can become a member by invitation only, or by entering a film that has been accepted in the program. WHY? The web is changing film. Not only the way film content is being distributed, but also the way film is being produced and watched. The whole interactive process of making, mixing, choosing, uploading, commenting, recommending and reacting is what is truly revolutionizing the industry. Film is becoming more and more a collaborative, social activity. But unfortunately this activity is taking place behind the computer at home or at work. Which is, lets face it, not the best possible place to enjoy movies. Upload Cinema wants take this exciting new way of making and sharing film out of the domestic realm, away from the internet and the tiny computer screen and into a space that's designed for a collective experience: the cinema. WHO? Upload Cinema is initiated by Dagan Cohen and Barbara de Wijn and presented by movie theater De Uitkijk - the oldest art house cinema in the Netherlands. Advertising agency Draftfcb is our proud sponsor. START YOUR OWN UPLOAD CINEMA Shouldn't every creative city in the world have an Upload Cinema? If you are triggered by this idea and have an old and cozy cinema in your town, don't hesitate to drop us a line. We'll be happy to provide you with everything you need to get started. [EMAIL PROTECTED] info%40uploadcinema.nl -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] crowdsourced news reporting
looks GREAT on paper ;) good read http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2007/07/assignment_zero_final sull On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:38 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey all From the Knight-Ridder challenge/contest, here is one of the winners: http://spot.us/ From the site: Spot.Us is a nonprofit project to pioneer community funded reporting. Through Spot.Us the public can commission investigations on important and perhaps overlooked stories. Donations are tax deductable and if a news organization buys exclusive rights to the content, your donation will be reimbursed. Otherwise content is made available through a Creative Commons license. br More and more of these sorts of sites are popping up; I'm starting to think about them as UGC 2.0 sites, where now you are still making all the content, but the site is trying to make you feel good about it (and hopefully give you a couple dollars to boot, but dont count on it). Do you think there is a long-term market for this sort of stuff? Or does it just sound good on paper? -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] crowdsourced news reporting
jay rosen (http://newassignment.net/about_newassignment_net) is on the board of advisors. so he is still a part of these efforts which is good to see. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:52 PM, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looks GREAT on paper ;) good read http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2007/07/assignment_zero_final sull On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:38 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey all From the Knight-Ridder challenge/contest, here is one of the winners: http://spot.us/ From the site: Spot.Us is a nonprofit project to pioneer community funded reporting. Through Spot.Us the public can commission investigations on important and perhaps overlooked stories. Donations are tax deductable and if a news organization buys exclusive rights to the content, your donation will be reimbursed. Otherwise content is made available through a Creative Commons license. br More and more of these sorts of sites are popping up; I'm starting to think about them as UGC 2.0 sites, where now you are still making all the content, but the site is trying to make you feel good about it (and hopefully give you a couple dollars to boot, but dont count on it). Do you think there is a long-term market for this sort of stuff? Or does it just sound good on paper? -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Well, i've been enjoying vlomo so much. . .
phil- everything you make, i'll be watching you. yeah vlomo on vimeo is great, though have had problems with playback. not sure why. i've seen phil's *things* - looks cool to me. sull On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:09 PM, sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen some of these *things* of which Phil speaks. Very effing awesome. Mike On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED]irinaski%40gmail.com wrote: welcome what kinds of things! On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM, dm0use [EMAIL PROTECTED]dmouse%40gmail.com wrote: . .. that i decided to drop by and see what was going on in the textual land that is videoblogging group on yahoo. How ya doing. I've got some cool things for you videobloggings. Coming really soon now! :) Cheers! Phil Campbell http://me.dm -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Mike Atherton Saying the wrong thing since 1972 Writer | Tech Hipster | 9 Kinds of Wrong http://www.sizemore.co.uk http://twitter.com/sizemore [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
interesting observation. let's find some info on it. quick search only brought be to http://www.techshout.com/internet/2008/08/youtube-amazon-and-itunes-collaborate-to-offer-click-to-buy-service/ dont have time now to delve but will later. On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont know if this is new, but i just noticed this on youtube. Miss B linked to this home video of a guy dancing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLBmniQbGX0 If you scroll down, you see that it says buy this song on Amazon or iTunes. I wonder if the guy just uploaded the video using copyrighted music, but Youtube discovered the song and added the pay link. Does this fix the problem of copyrighted music? People can use commercial music and upload it to youtube, and they just add a link for purchase? Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] This is kind of kick ass
anybody is an artist... nobody is an artist... On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:49 AM, David Terranova [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: He also has a lot of free time by the looks of it. Some people just have the free time part, yet get considered as artists by making [time-consuming but not-so-clever] gimmicks. Nothing wrong with that. It¹s just fascinating who gets considered artists sometimes. I don¹t really know much about this guy, so I may be wrong in including him in this generalization... -- David Terranova davidterranova.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu
Drew, Good thoughts. I'd ignore hulu etc in the context of the independent scene. It's a consortium of old media getting their content on the net. I've written about how I feel that it is a flawed strategy overall but certainly accomplishes some goals for those involved. hulu, as popular as it has become, will always struggle with the costs of their popularity and the cost of the content and the lack of exclusivity rights etc. i would not put it out of the realm of possibility that hulu.com (the website) will eventually phase itself out as the primary destination and become part of the backend infrastructure for the content owner websites themselves (nbc, fox etc). i've always felt that surfing the web for TV shows should not have to be any different than surfing your TV for TV shows. You go to the channel that has the show you want to watch. simple. done. a website is that enhanced channel... and often is accessed on a TV as well. the merge is happening.. slowly but surely. web tv. hulu also has competitors in the backend infrastructure arena. take a look at abc.com which is powered by http://www.movenetworks.com. so i am actually happy that hulu exists. always knew i would benefit from it since i dont subscribe to cable TV except in October for baseball. So more Internet options for me is great. And as a company, they are different. Not a typical online video startup (joint venture between NBC Universal and News Corp). It will probabaly get absorbed by one of the partners anyway or phased out or whatever. point is, hulu is NOT important to the independent scene. Be glad it exists while it exists and then be glad that you can watch TV on the channels websites etc etc. TV on the web. yay! i agree that we need Rev3 type of companies to exist and do well. and I agree that we need to carefully look at the bandwidth control issue. and I also agree that in ways, we are where we were 4 years ago... as far as needing innovation and pioneers for the independent media scene. though we probably dont need to discuss what a vlog is anymore :) the quality of content is ALWAYS critical. so whether you are into making internet/tech/youth/entertainment culture tpye of news shows or you are making short films or documentaries or whatever it's gotta obviously be good if you are needing an audience (you are spending money, have started an actual company and have a staff etc). not much of this has to do with personal vlogging where youtube has become the mecca but also still many blogs out there with authors putting up their own videos. that's still the audience of ten genre. maybe rocketboom should be more involved? what better company than yours? sure there is blip.tv but they are no rocketboom. it may be too late for them in a sense to be much help here. yes no maybe? sull On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What concerns me most of all is that we really need companies like Revision3 to succeed. The independent content creator, and in turn, independent production companies and studios, are really being overshadowed by the efforts of the Hollywood studios and entertainment conglomerates. For example, look at the lineups at Digital Hollywood and the NewTeeVee Live conferences -- there was a terrible lack of independent content creators sitting on panels alongside people from LucasFilm and Hulu. This is a major concern I have too, maybe the biggest issue on the table. I don't really think of Revision3 as independent. They are new, like a new cable station, but they have been trying to emulate an old model of TV and they are owned now by investors, so their #1 mission is likely to sell to a mainstream entity. This is going to be an uphill battle if rumors are true that this setback happened not due to an economic meltdown, but because they did not receive their next, anticipated round of funding. In case anyone didn't notice, the people who you tend to think of as independent, like Kevin Rose, for instance, has no control whatsoever over the company and apparently no say even. From his blog post, we can infer that he didn't even know about the layoffs until he was told by Jim, without discussion. Maybe Kevin should be more involved, that might help. Not sure. Nevertheless, setting aside Rev3, what is starting to happen is that Hulu and iTunes for instance are becoming so popular, that they are starting to control the programming for the masses. ***Hulu is a place where MOST people are not allowed to distribute.*** Same old game as before. Because Hulu is becoming so popular, it's starting to divide and this is destructive not only for independents, but for the future of media in general. Why cant Hulu continue to curate their favorite content in the same way, but allow anyone to distribute on a back channel like iTunes? Probably because they believe in a business model that will not include open
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Revision 3 cuts back on shows including Epic Fu
the union or guild stuff was a focus late 2006/early 2007. i had setup a blog/group called ourtu.be at the time for discussions on that but it died out. group is still out there though - http://groups.google.com/group/ourtube/ maybe someone should refresh those ideas somewhere. bypass the msm sponsorships. be the new pbs or something. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further to what Rox said about collective action, it seems to me that all the things Drew set out in his post would be much more easily achieved by an organised association or union or company of independent producers. Those of you who produce shows and treat it like a business. You know who you are. You've got businesses to protect and the regular distribution deals are not doing it for you, and the big media studio money is going elsewhere. I'm stunned that Kevin Rose didn't have a seat on the board at Rev3. I totally agree that if we let big media electronics companies design the interfaces and hardware that people will use to watch Internet TV, the game will be up for independent commercial producers and the general public. They'll shut us out. Drew was right to say that A few talented programmers and UI developers should find a very open space. It's not rocket science to come up with an alternative open platform, but it does take commitment over a long time and therefore needs the backing of serious content providers. Why start from scratch? Why not organise and help promote and improve an open independent-friendly rival to iTunes Hulu like Mefeedia? More than anything, though, I think collective action by small production businesses is a great way to go. You all know each other. You're all smart. And you're not competitors. Why not get organised? Rupert http://twittervlog.tv . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fw: [podcasters] NaPodPoMo: National Podcast Post Month Nov. 1-30
been having some problems getting mefeedia to load. i'll try to get some vids out to the channel. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most people hated Ning last year, and it made it a real pain in the ass to view and archive things. So this year we're doing it at http://Mefeedia.com Frank is working on tweaking some things for us. They just launched a new site. Go check it out. Our channel will be: http://www.mefeedia.com/channels/navlopomo2008 Everybody adds their feed to that channel, and any videos on those feeds will show up in the channel. It's more reliable than using Tags. (tag your videos anyway - navlopomo2008) Mefeedia are going to set it up so that only videos shot in November show up, and so that we can filter by day. I think we'll have a cool Theater View as well, for a lean back big screen experience. At the bottom of the channel you can see all comments (those on Mefeedia) and activity. So we can comment and discuss there. On each video page there's a link back to the original post on your blog. There's a feed for the channel, so you can subscribe to all Navlopomo videos in Miro, FireAnt, iTunes, AppleTV, whatever you like. Low maintenance, maximum features. The only thing it doesn't have is a discussion forum, but almost all the discussion happens in the comments and in the videos themselves anyway. And I like it better that way. I think it's going to rock. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 24-Oct-08, at 2:24 PM, Mike Moon wrote: Rupert, how are things looking for NaVloPoMo message forum? I will be participating in NaVloPoMo again this year. Should be a hoot. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Pat - I was going to post about NaVloPoMo later today, but you've pre-empted and prompted me. Hope you're up for it! On 24-Oct-08, at 12:15 PM, Pat Cook wrote: From: Jen Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] podcasters%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [podcasters] NaPodPoMo: National Podcast Post Month Nov. 1-30 Greetings Fellow Podcasters, It's that time of year again. No, not Fall, NaPodPoMo! From November 1-30th we'll be participating in the annual event which is the National Podcast Post Month. Last year was the first time a month long daily podcasting marathon had ever been attempted on such a large scale. By the time it was all said and done there were 50 ambitious podcasters who participated in NaPodPoMo. The conversations are already happening on the NaPoPoMo Ning site so swing on by to add your voice. http://napodpomo.ning.com The rules for the November 1-30th NaPodPoMo are simple: .Post audio in any form every day That's it! Feel free to be creative. You can post a traditional podcast or use Utterli, BlogTalkRadio, TalkShoe, etc... Some folks have even incorporated video into their posts. There is no time limit. Got a one minute tip show or an hour long diatribe? As long as you post audio every day, it all counts. The site is open for new registrations. Tell your friends and start training now for the podcast marathon that is NaPodPoMo. http://napodpomo.ning.com Remember, hydration is key ;-D Cheers, Jennifer Navarrete http://twitter.com/epodcaster -- Morning BrewCast http://morningbrewcast.com/blog -- Living the Dream http://jennifernavarrete.com Visit National Podcast Post Month at: http://napodpomo.ning.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: video in schools?
Markus, Nice! I am in the middle of deep discussions with people in my area about schooling and will share this link. We are researching how to start a charter school, co-op school, home schooling, co-schooling, partial schooling and unschooling ;) Regarding video in school I am ok with creating video but against watching videos in most cases. I am into experiential education. Sull On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of any k-12 schools that are doing cool stuff with video? I'm writing a primer article for a magazine on video on the web for schools, and they want examples... I recently helped out with a YouTube-based, video contest held by a locally based, distance learning school for K-12. Their students are all over the world and they asked them to make videos explaining why home schooling is cool. Three age categories. I viewed every one of the 60+ entries and learned a lot about how students completed their projects and in some cases, collaborated. http://www.laurelsprings.com/videocontest/index.asp An interesting side note: since the contest, I have seen one of the winners videos remade as a commercial on television. The TV version is very polished, but virtually word for word the original. I've been meaning to inquire if that student was involved in that, or just ripped off by some ad maker. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] videobloggers for Obama
does Obama need videobloggers? please explain. can't you just post a page with the details? facebook/myspace/ning or something? thanks, sull On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:43 PM, synchronistv [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi guys! In between web series I have become immersed in the presidential election. I am working on a very grass roots project in support of the Obama/ Biden campaign that is specific to the online video community, and which I believe has the potential to have a powerful impact on the outcome of the election. This is a community oriented, community powered project. If you are an Obama supporter and are looking for a way to use your video skills in support of the campaign shoot me an email-I'll send you all the details. all my best, kathryn jones kjonesjones at earthlink.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Michael Moore follows the Radiohead model
i was an urging voice in 2004 for Mr. Moore to distribute his works for free and not profit from the political atmosphere and the war as he was. i guess he had to make lots more money first before he could be willing to give his candid films away. here is a nice open letter to Michael Moore: http://www.counterpunch.org/mayer09222008.html *Whatever Happened to Voting Your Conscience? * *An Open Letter to Michael Moore (AKA God's Pen Pal) * By CARL J. MAYER Dear Michael: I apologize for writing you an open letter because you are busy corresponding with God.[1] I did not want to write an open letter, but I penned a private one to you some time ago and received no response. We have met on numerous occasions and have known each other for almost a decade, so I would appreciate an answer. The point of this letter is to ask you to reconcile your completely contradictory written statements and public pronunciations about voting your conscience on the one hand (Independent Ralph Nader in 2000) and supporting candidates who oppose all the key issues you support on the other (Democrats Barack Obama in 2008 and John Kerry in 2004.) I'm concerned that your written and oral statements are so contradictory that you are losing any residual political credibility you might have enjoyed. I think the youth of America and non-voters deserve answers, as you have anointed yourself as their representative. We first met back in 2000 when you supported the Ralph Nader for President Campaign. We met at numerous Super Rallies that Nader held all over the country to sold-out crowds ranging from 20,000 in Madison Square Garden to 15,000 in Portland, Oregon to 12,000 in Minneapolis. Your message at each rally was crystal clear: vote your conscience. At Madison Square Garden you bellowed while inveighing 20,000 people not to vote for of Al Gore: The lesser of two evils is still evil! One week before the 2000 election, you wrote a letter to Gore: Look, Al, you have screwed up -- big time. By now, you should have sent that smirking idiot back to Texas You should have wiped the floor with him during the three debates. But you didn't You don't realize that it's YOU and the Democrats that are responsible for the possibility of Bush winning next Tuesday Instead of...owning up to your mistakes, you and your people are blaming some rumpled senior citizen lawyer who is only following his conscienceRalph Nader has devoted his entire life to making the rest of our lives better. Because of him we have the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the EPA, OSHA, airbags and seatbelts, the Freedom of Information Act -- the list goes on and on. What have YOU done to save a few million lives? ...You and your New Democrats abandoned the poor, the working class, and the middle classYou and the Democrats have created the monster know as W... I want Ralph Nader to get millions of votes on Tuesday. I have seen the response to Ralph at numerous huge rallies across the country. There is a progressive movement afoot in America and it needs to explode into a majority movement -- beginning now, not four years from now I will not feel one iota of guilt should you screw up and lose on Tuesday. The blame I do share is that I voted for you and Bill in 1992...[2] Your position in 2000 could not have been more steadfast. By 2004 you decided to back John Kerry and the Democrats. You traveled around the country telling college students NOT TO VOTE for Nader after telling them TO VOTE for Nader in 2000. By 2008 you have become a full-on cheerleader for the Democratic Party. You basically endorsed Edwards in the primary (good call!) and now you are campaigning all out for Obama; I even saw you on Larry King the other night saying that Obama's convention speech sent chills up your spine. (Do corporate ads for Pepto-Bismol get you misty as well?) Last month you wrote a piece calling anyone who voted for Nader crazy. [3] Earlier in the year you appeared on Larry King and a fan of yours called in and observed that since none of the Democratic candidates support single-payer national health insurance which you do that you should support Nader. Your response was surprising: you called Ralph a sad reflection of his former self and urged people not to vote for him. (I can't remember if this was before or after you told King that one of your top priorities as president would be to give all Americans HBO.) Many progressives are quite puzzled by your behavior regarding Nader given that he once employed you when nobody would and helped bankroll your first film. But apparently, gratitude is not your long suit. I ran into you late in January, 2006 when we happened to stay at the same hotel during a vacation. I approached you at dinner, introduced myself (you, of course, had no idea who I was despite having met me numerous times) and then you proceeded to tell me yourself that Ralph Nader is crazy. (Fortunately for you, Ralph is a public
[videoblogging] Open The Debates - videos
If anyone is interested in a more open and democratic election process with improvements to the main televised corporate controlled debates BETWEEN, not AMONG, candidates... here are some links. YouTube Search: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Open+The+Debatessearch_type= http://www.votenader.org/debates/ A video/slideshow I threw together this morn: http://openthedebates.blip.tv/ or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5pHc65fIiU No matter who you lean towards voting for it's hard to argue against opening up the debates to other worthy 3rd party candidates, especially those who are on most state ballots and polling respectively despite no msm coverage (blackout). Spread the word... if you care - if you dare. I would not promote personal works here if it were not about something beyond me, and in this case critical to election reform in the united states. Tis the season. Cheers, Sull [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] random art for the day?
ok i will have ot make one of these with my kid. loved it. 2008/9/16 noel hidalgo [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ3hC4Za2kc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Two NYTimes articles on Web Video
i tend to agree with mister schlomo. depends what your personal videos are too. are they produced, artistic, entertaining, stylistic? or are they talking head vids with the primary purpose of basic communication? if the latter, than i dont know if that can be called an art form. it's a video message. unless you are being fake. still, i wouldnt consider it art. On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:50 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Actually, I think for personal vlogging its even more so that face-to-face interaction helps readership to your blog. Well, that, and just being a part of various communities. I would be hard-pressed to think that someone actually watches my personal vids without knowing me on some sort of level. Otherwise, why would you? My personal videoblog was made primarily for my Mom to keep up with me; its something that only friends would really be interested in watching/commenting. The personal revolution is not dead, its just PERSONAL. small, intimate. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Michael Moore follows the Radiohead model
http://www.boondockfans.com On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, obviously it's not a bad thing if a director just doesn't want to do it. Nobody's forcing anyone. My point - and maybe it was badly made - is that so many other people in unexpected places are using online video to promote ongoing projects... it seems absurd to me that filmmakers aren't at the forefront of that phenomenon. And they're not. Quite the opposite. And yet how many of these feature films will have a Making of movie being shot expensively for the DVD (or, in past times, for a momentary cable broadcast)? On 5-Sep-08, at 4:25 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote: I don't think its exactly Negative if a director doesnt want to blog his activites or post dailies onto the web. Maybe the director just wants to show a finished product; many people are like that. Kent, you're making a movie (Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!!!), do feel the need to blog the production process? I assume you guys have talked to the producer about this sort of stuff. Is there anything you can share about that? On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: I mean, REALLY - it's now 4-5 years since the people on this list started mucking about with this stuff. And Jan's director is unusual in his use of social media and video to document the production of his independent movie?? Even politicians are now well-versed in using videoblogging and all kinds of web video to sell their message as they go along. http://johnmccain.blip.tv/ The Queen has her own YouTube channel, for god's sake. And it's quite good. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRoyalChannel When John McCain and Elizabeth II are more innovative in their use of online video than professional moviemakers, you know something is seriously rotten in the state of Denmark. I edited out a lot of swear words from this post. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 5-Sep-08, at 4:05 PM, Rupert wrote: Good for Michael Moore. Yes, some of them are starting to get it. But even the ones who are getting it are only partly getting it, and - like your director, Jan - are bullied by producers and funders who are still a long way from getting it. In May, I was at a talk about the future of documentaries given by Deborah Scranton, who directed War Tapes. In the end, she advocated YouTube as the best way to get your films seen by people. I asked her how she thought that kind of free distribution fitted with getting the considerable funding needed to make big documentaries like hers. She didn't have an answer. And then I asked her whether it was OK for The War Tapes to be distributed on YouTube so that it got viewed by more people. She said Oh, that's a question for the producer. I was really disappointed with her. One moment, she was saying It's great for you little people to get your films in front of an audience on YouTube - and the next, she wouldn't even give her personal view about her own film being shown that way, to a room full of emerging documentary filmmakers. These questions are no brainers to me, and yet she was supposed to be giving an authoritative view about the future of documentaries. It's all very easy for established filmmakers to say Up and coming filmmakers should use YouTube - but if they say that, then they have to be able to justify why THEY should use it, too - regardless of what the studio's lawyers say in 2008. Otherwise it's just a bullshit platitude to make them sound like they get it. And it doesn't address the problem of how big documentaries will be funded ten years from now. I'm always amazed at how long it takes TV and Film professionals to understand and get excited about this stuff, instead of seeing it as a financial threat. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 5-Sep-08, at 3:29 PM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: Great news, really. They begin to 'get it'. Ha! Bwah-hahaha. Yes! The director of the indie movie I just finished mixing (City Island) is putting clips from dailies (bloopers such) online on his blog through YouTube. http://moviestildawn.blogspot.com/2008/09/city-island-empire-diner- moment.html The producers had him cease and desist for about a week during production, but blog comments convinced 'em it was the right thing to do. One producer at a time... The director also wants to break his previous movie (Two Family House) into 10-minute segments and put the whole thing on YouTube - and WILL eventually. The director definitely gets it. Jan On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.comjay.dedman%40gmail.com wrote: Michael Moore is putting out his new film, Slacker Rising, on the web through blip.tv (for free).
[videoblogging] Nader Flix
Interruption! Finally, a chance to push Nader on this list without being off-topic ;) http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/08/24/nader-flix/ --- We now return you to regular programming - Lesser Of Two Evils. ;) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Nader Flix
that is of course a great vid but shit, got to keep it real and stay ideal. or some horseshit like that ;) On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 25, 2008, at 7:31 AM, Sull wrote: Interruption! Finally, a chance to push Nader on this list without being off- topic ;) http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/08/24/nader-flix/ --- We now return you to regular programming - Lesser Of Two Evils. ;) thanks sull! your post made me wonder what the state of youtube UG content was around Nader these days speaking of lesser of two evils, this video made me laugh even though I don't agree with it same voice as that guy who did that singing woodchuck thing ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIFEceopAUI markus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
I watched Henry Fool last night. First time in quite a while. It reminded me of this thread. Enjoyed the Internet references. Gets better over time. Always enjoyed Hal Hartley stuff. Bukowski is interesting to inject here. But only to the effect that he relentlessly submitted his works... So that he could make money at it and quit his shit job. Maybe he also wanted recognition but it was mostly about sustaining a life directed by himself. And the man liked to write. So the times evolved and caught up to his type, his style. That dirty old man would have his way in the end. After a long bitch of a beginnning. On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM, ractalfece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bukowski hated dealing with people. He wrote a poem about murdering a young admirer who approached him at the race track. In his letters he constantly complained about people mailing him poetry and expecting him to read it. As soon as he had enough money to stop giving readings, he did. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, ruperthowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your fellow LA poet Bukowski had to deal with a lot of crazy people too. And it took him quite a long time to make any money from his poems. People didn't tend to buy poetry in such large numbers. Eventually he started writing novels, a more commercial and accessible form, he got published because of his notoriety as a poet and the beauty of his writing, and the cash started coming in. He still wrote the poems and dealt with the crazy people, partly because he loved it, partly because it was just an integral part of the way he chose to live his life and make his art. The nine-to-five is one of the greatest atrocities sprung upon mankind. You give your life away to a function that doesn't interest you. This situation so repelled me that I was driven to drink, starvation, and mad females, simply as an alternative. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, ractalfece john@ wrote: I see the philosophical difference. I understand starving for art. Knut Hamsun's Hunger. Great book. But here's the difference between Knut and me. I'm starving and dealing with people. Why should I have to accept the hardships of fame without compensation? I don't. That's why I can't guarantee in the future you'll be able to see my work without paying. - john@ - --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jen Proctor proctorjen@ wrote: I'm sorry that you've had hard financial times. I could go into the financial straits my family and I have endured as well, but I don't think that's the point. I don't think the hardship of living out of a car is still any kind of justification that art is best served within commodity culture. I'm not saying that YOU should remove your work from commodity culture. That's not my argument - you should do whatever you feel is right for your work and your life, and I completely respect that. I just take issue with the notion that asking viewers to pay the individual maker for online video is any kind of revolution or, ultimately, a viable solution. It's simply a philosophical disagreement - power to ya to do whatever is right for you. I just can't guarantee that I'll pay to watch your work. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, ractalfece john@ wrote: So I guess my point regarding Information Dystopia is that as much as I'd like to see artists better compensated for their work, whether through public funding or individual donations, as requested in the video, the disconnect from this larger history makes the call for compensation feel more like hubris than a revolution. The situation we are in as artists on the web is nothing new in terms of trying to make money. To me, as Rupert has stated earlier, the greater revolution of the web is in the possibilities for removing our work from commodity culture - making the work free, accessible, open, and remixable. Jen, watch this video response I did to Mark Horowitz's 7 Days in a Sentra ad campaign. Mark Horriblewitz's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eMXE2Z58QI My response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHFPsx_7id0 Then tell me about removing my work from commodity culture. - john@ - [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
I think i'll watch Fay Grim tonight (roku, yo) http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2712011033/ On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Henry Fool last night. First time in quite a while. It reminded me of this thread. Enjoyed the Internet references. Gets better over time. Always enjoyed Hal Hartley stuff. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
good references and truths. i dont know/follow kent. never watched the ninja thing except unavoidable clips. i know that their is this history, as you point out Rufus, of the clash of highly creative media and diluted processed media (mass media). net video creators exercised a freedom from corporate ties. some of them are actually talented. And some of those will get scooped up to be advertising puppets. some will cut better deals to maintain their creative freedom and receive fair returns from success (if any). Good for them. i think what may be disturbing to some is when net video producers/actors/creators play on an angle geared towards the indie creator revolution... and do so with an aggression that makes it inevitable for them to contradict themselves. it's not too different than politics where you have Obama, as an example, playing to an audience so that he can be propelled and then his tune changes a bit when he no longer fully depends on that initial audience. The same could be said about the starving artist of today seemingly being the independent new media creator/entertainer. The only point here is that some people will say and do anything to get crowd support... and they may even believe what they say... but success brings hard choices of reality which always comes down to money and the deals that are taken help to maintain the momentum (or illusion) of success with the assumption that people will understand the tough choices that must be made. Besides, it's 2008 now and you can't be revolutionary for too long. A new breed may be needed to follow those before them. Until the day that the dollar bill is flapped in their faces too and the decisions will be made once again. i believe that if art is what you are looking for, whatever art is to you you will have to sift and seek and filter. it cannot be expected out of this new crop of media creators. it may exist here and there... again, dependent on what you think is quality Art. so we cannot easily define it here in some thread on a mailing list. The key is not to expect it from independent media creators but hope that it seeps out now and again. befriending good people that you trust will help to find interesting things. Which is why Schlomo is on to something with the Tracker idea. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7-Aug-08, at 7:35 PM, ractalfece wrote: This crisis is a wet dream for marketers. Media becomes all about the metrics. Just find the content with the highest hit count and cover it with ads. You no longer have to worry about quality. You just worry about the positioning of the clickable ad. In this new game, the perfect content is titillating and exciting but lacking in any real substance or depth. Get the web surfers in and make sure the ad is there for them when they get bored or when the two minutes is up. That's why it's now possible to make an easy $6000 by putting ads on top of promos. Ask Tim Street how it's done. - When our heroes fail us, they deserve our special scorn. - I can't believe that I actually have to say this... but this is *not* a new crisis, or a new problem for artists and journalists. This existed just as powerfully long before the web came along. You think TV and other media were better in the... 90s... 80s... 70s... 60s?? Media has *always* been about the metrics. It's *always* been about finding the content with the biggest hit count and covering it with adds. It's *never* been about quality, except when quality brings audience. Quality comedy writing, usually. The perfect content has *always* been about titillating and exciting but lacking in any real substance or depth. Ads on US TV are obnoxiously frequent, and there have been a lot of people making a lot of money out of making promos for a very long time. I don't know why Kent is a 'hero' who has failed us - he's just someone, as you say, whose success has put him in a leadership position so he tells people how to make money from online video. What he's telling us is not new. It's the same thing that commissioning editors at TV channels have been saying for decades - the same thing that 'quality' film and documentary producers have been complaining about for decades. What you're saying is the same thing Paddy Chayefsky so brilliantly observed in Network in 1976, James L Brooks so brilliantly observed in Broadcast News in the 1987 and Altman so brilliantly observed in The Player in 1992. And it goes back to things like His Girl Friday in 1940 and Sullivan's Travels in the 40s. And probably further. Almost every time someone tackles mediamaking, it comes down to the same thing - the artist versus what the producer and the public want. Is it really all about the evil corporate overlords restricting the quality of what's produced for so many years? Or is it about the public? Kent's just telling us what
Re: [videoblogging] remix video footage source material?
noticed that spinxpress Get Media blip.tv results are all dead for me. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://spinxpress.com/getmedia allows searching by type of content and also by licence type. On 8-Aug-08, at 2:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] chris3306%40yahoo.comwrote: http://lab.wgbh.org/sandbox Sent from my BlackBerry� smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] jensimmons%40gmail.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:28:29 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] remix video footage source material? Help me remember what the best resources are for finding archival footage for remixing. Where do you download footage? http://archive.org http://politicalvideo.org http://remixamerica.org http://youtube.com What else? Especially high-res. Jen Jen Simmons http://jensimmons.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Goes Underground
intimacy anti-hype uncommercialized art tech open good thread. it's cool to promote BT but i dont think it is usefukl unless you have a decent sized subsciber base who are all willing to seed your video. other underground file sharing tech/concepts can be used to avoid the mainstream/trolls and mesh with a more intimate audience. reminds me a little of what brought about http://forthoseof.us john, email me as well. thanks. sull On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:50 PM, ractalfece [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... ... ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Video Goes Underground
my underground tool of choice was always KDX (haxial.com). it's been rewritten and KDX2 will be released at some point (or not). is BitTorrent overkill for this though? i think it might be. unless you are not underground and make a SHOW ;) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: John from TotalVom, whose work has often discussed his role within a world of online content creators (as well as comment on them), has had enough of the youtube comments and decides to go BitTorrent only. I can see a whole slew of bittorrents by small artists that dont need the ubiquitous nature of posting content everywhere and just put out a torrent that you send to friends. http://totalvom.blip.tv/file/1127884/ I envision a bittorrent tracker only for original longish form video content; people friending each other in Vuse to share the workload (does anyone actually friend each other in their trackers? I dont, seems weird). Awesome and easy to set up, where creators create to dialog with each other without the need/care of Views and Comments. I own moneythong.com, sounds like a good name for an Underground Video Bittorrent tracker site. Does someone know how to make one of these? And yes, I'm inspired and serious. -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Loren Feldman = Technigga
which just came back to bite him a year later. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/07/1938-media-loses-verizon-deal-over-racism-charges/ 2007/8/3 Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Loren Feldman = Technigga http://1938media.blip.tv/file/326972/ -- sull.outputs.it [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] McCain video: I hate bloggers
nice find! jay dedman recently notified me of speechology.org worth checking out. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:50 AM, jarosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a resource on the web that has over 700 video of McCain from events he went from around the country...Town Halls, House Parties, small events and large. My favorite is the one where McCain says, I hate bloggers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wset9i4b0b4 Here's the archive: http://www.youtube.com/user/IssueAlliance -- sull.outputs.it [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Blip farked? The Website is Down: Sales Guy vs Web Dude
http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/dpt/node/16#comments http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/dpt/node/1 http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/salesguy.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcQ7RkyBoBceur hillarious video! -- sull.outputs.it [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] mail to friendfeed
http://www.mail2ff.com/ would be interesting to forward mailing lists to friendfeed rooms. or not. -- sull.outputs.it [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Easy code generator for High Quality YouTube embeds
i'll follow you. wherever you go, wherever you are, there i am. http://sull.outputs.it is tumblr. On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome! Especially since most of my Video Bathroom is filled with YouTube videos. Who else uses tumblr? Mine is: http://schlomo.tumblr.com One thing I love about tumblr is how people are using the service. Obviously, most are re-blogging, but many are not. And, like they tell me in all the Social Network books, its good to Follow each other. I want to be a follower of you! On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: I've created a tool which generates the right HTML code to embed High Quality YouTube videos. Instead of you having to fiddle around altering the code yourselves with the code I posted here last night. Most people I've told today seem pretty indifferent - but it makes a phenomenal difference to the quality of the video. If you play the two versions of Epic FU I've embedded on http:// twittervlog.tumblr.com/ together, you can see that difference for yourselves, especially in shots of Zadi in the studio. The colours and resolution are better than you get with a Blip flash player. And you get to use YouTube without sacrificing quality. Anyway, for anybody who does see the difference and wants it, my embed code generator is here: http://www.twittervlog.tv/high-quality-youtube-embed-generator.html Rupert http://twittervlog.tv Begin forwarded message: From: ruperthowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.orgrupert% 40fatgirlinohio.org Date: June 25, 2008 1:32:08 AM PDT (CA) To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] How to embed high quality MP4 versions of YouTube videos! Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com I've been reading about how to make YouTube videos look really good. There's quite a good article here: http://tinyurl.com/6lz636 BUT the most useful thing I discovered was how to link to and embed the High Quality MP4 versions that you can toggle to watch on the site. If you're posting/linking to a YouTube video, add fmt=18 to the end of the URL and it'll play in HQ. Doesn't work for embeds, but I found a way to cheat it: add ap=%2526fmt%3D18 to the end of both URLs in the embed code and it'll embed as a High Quality MP4 video. NO MORE SHITTY YOUTUBE EMBEDS! http://tinyurl.com/5c9e3h [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- sull.outputs.it [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Decline in posts to this group.
Good analogy. sull On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that can understand this: This list is like The Well. Very few people think about The Well anymore, but its place in history is undisputed. And there are sexier people on this list than that were on The Well in its early days:) -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] David Howell's Iowa flooding coverage picked up by BBC
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Should Google Kill Youtube?
People want: - Professional content - Viral content - Important content Most user-gen content does not fit within these constructs. At least not on a consistent basis. And most people should not care. The Audience of 10. If you do care about how large of an audience you have and you do want to try and monetize, then you will need to output professional and/or important content. You'll have to fill in the blanks here. sull On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that yes, there are more users of online video than ever, I just wonder how many of those people though are really interested in user generated content, on a mass adoption level. I mean let's face it, if Google can't figure out a way to make money off YouTube, then all the VC money with these other companies are going to dry up. It will happen. I think most of the people who are online watching video's want to see professional contentI hope I am wrong, but I fear that I'm not Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fascinating Heath - thank you for posting it. It may be one of the harbingers of the bursting bubble of internet video. The main thing I see different between this bubble and the first bubble, is that back then, it was the creators who got the investors all excited about their ideas. Now, it is the users who are driving demand. There still is an absence of many sustainable finance models, but to me there is a huge difference between a few geeks with cool ideas and millions of users demanding their daily fix of video. Think of the research value the political campaigns are getting from being to search all the old stuff (embarrassing speeches) that are steadily being posted online. Aloha, Rox On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting indeed. I couldn't believe how badly they botched Google Video. They never should have had to buy Youtube in the first place. I'm surprised though that Youtube isn't bringing in much money. On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]heathparks%40msn.com wrote: Very instering article on cnet today http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-9968220-17.html?tag=cnetfd.mt The big points are that Google overpaid for Youtube, (who didn't know that?) But the idea that they could actually dump it, because they can't figure out a way to make money off user generated video...I think that is a real possibility. And I fear what that would mean for all of the other video hosting sites if it happens. Read below.. Do you remember the good ol' days of YouTube? Back when a private company owned it and you could post and view whatever you wanted up there and no one would say a word because, well, it was practically bankrupt and copyright owners knew they wouldn't get anything out of a lawsuit? Those were the days, weren't they? Now, after a $1.65 billion buyout by Google, YouTube is not only a veritable junkyard for all the crap we didn't watch a couple years ago, but a bloated mess that costs too much to operate, has a huge lawyer target on it, and barely incurs revenue. And to make matters worse, Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, has no idea what to do about it. Speaking to The New Yorker, Schmidt said that it seemed obvious that Google should be able to generate significant amounts of money from YouTube, but so far, it has no idea what to do. The goal for YouTube is to build a tremendous communityIn the case of YouTube we might be wrong, he said. We have enough leverage that we have the leverage of time. We can invest for scale and not have to make money right now, he said. Hopefully our system and judgment is good enough if something is not going to pay out, we can change it. But is changing it really the best idea? Since Google acquired YouTube, the company has tried desperately to make something, anything, from its $1.65 billion investment, but so far, it has failed miserably. Of course, it thinks that 'pre- and post-roll' advertisements may work, but the company isn't too sure. And therein lies the rub. If Google is unsure of how it can turn a profit on YouTube and it still has no idea if it will be able to get a return on its investment, why shouldn't it cut its losses and do something drastically different? Now I know that you're probably thinking that I've lost it and my editor overlords will finally put me out to pasture, but think about it for a minute: why should a company that overpaid for a service continue to dump significant amounts of cash into it (not to mention
