Re: [videoblogging] Black Woman YouTube Vlogger Murdered by Stalker
i assume everyone has seen this comments song http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1907543 On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gena wrote: > > > This needs to be known and I will not hold my breath for M$M to pay > attention. She is not white nor blond. I found out via other bloggers that > this has happened. This is the link for info: > > Post from What About Our Daughters blog http://is.gd/smml > > The stalker used YT and Facebook to harass and stalk this young lady. > Another YT person did alert the police but, yeah...well. > > I find myself split. I do believe women needs to participate in web video > and carry their voices forward. All women. But yes, I am biased. Especially > African-American women. Can't help it and don't want too. > > But there are old vicious rules about protecting yourself and one of those > rules is being silent and invisible. It does not matter. You still wind up > dead and no one outside of your family will known. > > For the record, I will not be silent. I will not be invisible. I don't post > on YT because of the type of nasty vile comments, behaviors and TOS. But I > do support freedom of speech. > > Do what this information what you will. I am angry and I am sad. > > Gena > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com > > > -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Black Woman YouTube Vlogger Murdered by Stalker
> And I just don't understand why the most popular video sharing site, > potentially a place with great positive impact and opportunity, should > allow itself to be turned into a big pile of shit. > Is it any wonder Google can't make any money from YouTube > advertising? Who wants to advertise their product next to all that? > Google should get with the program and crack down. I had that same thought last week. Youtube has continued to innovate for the past 3 years, adding a lot of cool new features. Throughout their history, they've always been able to handle the traffic with zero choking. Also, their player consistently works on every computer/browser/connection variation Ive seen. But why can't they figure out how to develop a strong positive community? I can't remember the last time Youtube has mentioned any new features or best practices when it comes to handling comments. And all the fucked-up comments are what anyone ever talks about when it comes to their site. "It's a great video site but the commenters suck." Ive always felt that a community follows the lead of the site's creators/managers. Think of Twitter. Evan Williams has a strong, public voice when it comes to his vision of how people should interact. He and his team get involved in situations that concern how people interact. I'm not a fan of Facebook, but at least Mark Zuckerberg is the guy who makes the decisions when the community protests. But then you have Youtube which has always been faceless. It's just the place where everyone goes to upload videos. I'm a fan of positive examples versus laying down restrictions. But I got a feeling Youtube, like most of google, is more about giving people enough rope to hang themselves. Or I guess do something really amazing. They dont seem interested in directing people on how to behave. Gena, that really sucks about the stalker. I know Ryanne has had times when she's been hesitant to put herself out there because of shitty anonymous attacks. Doesn't make it any easier for women online. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Black Woman YouTube Vlogger Murdered by Stalker
That's so awful and sad. I know this is only tangential to it, but I think YouTube's hands-off attitude towards violent, threatening, prejudiced behaviour is appalling. It's a breeding ground for hatred, where people can get themselves more and more worked up, more and more entrenched in their hatred. With the tacit blessing of Google. Yes, people can shout back, but we've all been online long enough to know that freedom of reply does nothing to combat trolls and haters. It just makes them worse, gives them attention. The only answer is to shut them down. I don't know why more people don't turn on comment approval on YouTube, or just turn commenting off altogether. The only reason I can think of is that they don't know they can. And I just don't understand why the most popular video sharing site, potentially a place with great positive impact and opportunity, should allow itself to be turned into a big pile of shit. Is it any wonder Google can't make any money from YouTube advertising? Who wants to advertise their product next to all that? Google should get with the program and crack down. They could start by removing people's anonymity. Google should insist on identifying people by email accounts linked to Google accounts. And/or have comments set to moderation/approval by default. I don't believe this is a freedom of speech issue. To say that Freedom of speech equals being able to say whatever you want on YouTube is nonsense. Stopping abusive and offensive comments isn't against freedom of speech. Shutting down abusive commenters on your site isn't repressing freedom of speech any more than forcibly ejecting someone who comes into your garden and starts shouting at you and threatening you. If someone wants to stand in their own garden and shout and threaten, fair enough. That's freedom of speech. Within the bounds of laws on incitement to violence. One reason to do it is because a huge part of YouTube's audience are kids. Another reason is that it helped a psychotic continually abuse one of their users and get so wound up by doing it that he finds her and kills her. He may have ended up doing it to someone else offline - that's another issue. But there should be a team of people at YouTube saying "In our house, this is not acceptable behaviour." instead of tacitly giving it Google's blessing and a podium. Yours fascistically, Comment Nazi http://twittervlog.tv On 14-Apr-09, at 3:51 PM, Gena wrote: > > > This needs to be known and I will not hold my breath for M$M to pay > attention. She is not white nor blond. I found out via other > bloggers that this has happened. This is the link for info: > > Post from What About Our Daughters blog http://is.gd/smml > > The stalker used YT and Facebook to harass and stalk this young > lady. Another YT person did alert the police but, yeah...well. > > I find myself split. I do believe women needs to participate in web > video and carry their voices forward. All women. But yes, I am > biased. Especially African-American women. Can't help it and don't > want too. > > But there are old vicious rules about protecting yourself and one of > those rules is being silent and invisible. It does not matter. You > still wind up dead and no one outside of your family will known. > > For the record, I will not be silent. I will not be invisible. I > don't post on YT because of the type of nasty vile comments, > behaviors and TOS. But I do support freedom of speech. > > Do what this information what you will. I am angry and I am sad. > > Gena > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Black Woman YouTube Vlogger Murdered by Stalker
This needs to be known and I will not hold my breath for M$M to pay attention. She is not white nor blond. I found out via other bloggers that this has happened. This is the link for info: Post from What About Our Daughters blog http://is.gd/smml The stalker used YT and Facebook to harass and stalk this young lady. Another YT person did alert the police but, yeah...well. I find myself split. I do believe women needs to participate in web video and carry their voices forward. All women. But yes, I am biased. Especially African-American women. Can't help it and don't want too. But there are old vicious rules about protecting yourself and one of those rules is being silent and invisible. It does not matter. You still wind up dead and no one outside of your family will known. For the record, I will not be silent. I will not be invisible. I don't post on YT because of the type of nasty vile comments, behaviors and TOS. But I do support freedom of speech. Do what this information what you will. I am angry and I am sad. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
