Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Jan
I am experimenting with using PDF's for the vlog press kit site - because 
the target RSS audience is the press. The thinking is that they wouldn't 
mind having a thing to print out with official looking letterhead, etc. The 
actual text would appear in an entry but the enclosure would be a PDF file.

Thoughts?

The thing is, I'm going to have to convince the vlogworld to produce PDF 
press releases for delivery. Or make them myself. Don't know if that works 
for me.

One would think folks would produce press releases in .txt, word processed 
(.wpd or .doc) as well as PDF.

Or am I just wacked?

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 Do you get any feedback from users regarding the use of these PDFs?
 I would think it just creates an obstacle as its another thing I have
 to download and view in a separate application... if it were me, I
 wouldn't want to deal with it. But maybe your target users are
 different. What do they think? Do they need the PDF because its like a
 printable newsletter? Just curious...

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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Michael Sullivan



PDF has its place of course.
It should not be the sole medium for transmitting content though especially if you are a blogger. 
Need to have logical balance and understand who your target audience is. 
Obviously, PDFs targeted to this community is not proper if its the
main format unless its purpose is to allow printing for whatever
reasons.

Btw, way back, i was looking into how to add multimedia into PDFs
is that still a mystery these days? I used to do a lot of research into
multimedia eBooks etc..

thanks,
sullOn 8/30/05, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am experimenting with using PDF's for the vlog press kit site - becausethe target RSS audience is the press. The thinking is that they wouldn'tmind having a thing to print out with official looking letterhead, etc. The
actual text would appear in an entry but the enclosure would be a PDF file.Thoughts?The thing is, I'm going to have to convince the vlogworld to produce PDFpress releases for delivery. Or make them myself. Don't know if that works
for me.One would think folks would produce press releases in .txt, word processed(.wpd or .doc) as well as PDF.Or am I just wacked?Jan--It isn't done alone. Pay more.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:11 AMSubject: Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered! Do you get any feedback from users regarding the use of these PDFs? I would think it just creates an obstacle as its another thing I have
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Anders Clerwall
On 8/30/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Btw, way back, i was looking into how to add multimedia into PDFs is
 that still a mystery these days? I used to do a lot of research into
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Well, why do you think Adobe bought Macromedia? :)
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RE: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Steven Livingstone










There is also XPS Print Path [1] coming
from Microsoft which is supposed to challenge PDF  it is Xml based and I
guess will natively support enclosures and such.



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[1] http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/metro_FAQ.mspx









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On 8/30/05, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Btw, way back, i was looking into how
to add multimedia into PDFs is
 that still a mystery these days? I used to do
a lot of research into
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Well, why do you think Adobe bought Macromedia? :)
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Michael Sullivan



good point.
it'll be a powerful thing. i've always felt that cross-platform compiled multimedia eBooks would one day boom. 
going back to 2001, the only solution that i was impressed with was TK3 by Night Kitchen (http://nightkitchen.com).
Their software still has not been updated yet still may be the only multimedia eBook technology that works on both Win and Mac. 

Multimedia Acrobat and/or deriviate software would be nice
to see on the marketplace. It would be feasible to distribute
vlogs within these 'wrappers'.

sullOn 8/30/05, Anders Clerwall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/30/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Btw, way back, i was looking into how to add multimedia into PDFs is that still a mystery these days? I used to do a lot of research into
 multimedia eBooks etc..Well, why do you think Adobe bought Macromedia? :)It's coming...--Anders Clerwallvlog: http://randomshow.com/
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Michael Sullivan



i've seen flash multimedia eBooks/online mags but in every instance, it was custom made and no actual generator was used. 
Would be nice, and I imagine we'll see some new software to do these things much easier than typical authoring environments.On 8/30/05, Steven Livingstone
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I have thought the same. When I ran
readthat.com I found the distribution quite tricky – was a pain asking
for different formats and an even bigger pain converting them all etc.



When I created my magazine cover today (was
really cool little app – you should try it!) …


http://stevenr2.blogspot.com/2005/08/vidyo-magazine-hits-news-stands.html



… I started to wonder whether any of
you Flash whizzes would not be able to create a packed app that included the
text, audio and any video in the same way. I.e. you point at resources and they
are all included the result is a nice flash applet that can run in browser, pda
and so on. I have seen the beginnings of this on some podcast sites that play
the audio with no download (other than Flash).



In summary is there no-one out there that
could create this *just now* and
make themselves a few $ in the meantime?



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good point.
it'll be a powerful thing. i've always felt that cross-platform compiled
multimedia eBooks would one day boom. 
going back to 2001, the only solution that i was impressed with was TK3 by
Night Kitchen (http://nightkitchen.com).
Their software still has not been updated yet still may be the only multimedia
eBook technology that works on both Win and Mac. 

Multimedia Acrobat and/or deriviate software would be nice to see
on the marketplace. It would be feasible to distribute vlogs within these
'wrappers'.

sull



On 8/30/05, Anders
Clerwall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On 8/30/05, Michael
Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Btw, way back, i was looking into how to add multimedia into
PDFs is
 that still a mystery these days? I used to do a lot of research into 
 multimedia eBooks etc..

Well, why do you think Adobe bought Macromedia? :)
It's coming...

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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:25:55 +0200, Michael Sullivan  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Multimedia Acrobat and/or deriviate software would be nice to see on the
 marketplace. It would be feasible to distribute vlogs within these
 'wrappers'.

This may be stupid (but I can't see why). But why not slap a browser on  
your tablet PC, PDA, PSP or other acronym. Distribute your 'book' as HTML  
and call it a day?

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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I agree here... HTML *is* your multimedia/interactive book.
You can't print multimedia anyway... PDFs are for printers.

-Josh


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 On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:25:55 +0200, Michael Sullivan
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  Multimedia Acrobat and/or deriviate software would be nice to see on the
  marketplace. It would be feasible to distribute vlogs within these
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 This may be stupid (but I can't see why). But why not slap a browser on
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Michael Sullivan



there's a bigger picture related to content distribution, access/flow control, offline viewing, ecommerce and other aspects.
html is something that is inclusive, not exclusive to the ideas of
eBooks/eMags and other distributable digital media compilations.

sullOn 8/30/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree here... HTML *is* your multimedia/interactive book.You can't print multimedia anyway... PDFs are for printers.-JoshOn 8/30/05, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  marketplace. It would be feasible to distribute vlogs within these  'wrappers'. This may be stupid (but I can't see why). But why not slap a browser on your tablet PC, PDA, PSP or other acronym. Distribute your 'book' as HTML
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Nathanial Freitas
(jumping into this thread late - i thought everyone was talking about 
I/ON and here you are discussing PDFs - hmph!)

Thanks for the feedback, Kunga. I'll look into why my Thunderbird client 
is misbehaving.  Otherwise, we haven't applied to be listed in iTunes 
yet. I suppose we should.

As for being the counter-ANT, well, I would more call it the 
alterna-ANT, or just another choice for people. I have no interest in 
countering anyone in this community - my goals are to work towards 
countering the entrenched powers that be at least in ideals, creativity, 
and approach, if not in terms of actual market success.

Otherwise, I'm glad to consider adding PDF support in I/ON. We're a 
Media Aggregator, and if that's your Media then so be it! (I think we'll 
have this in Beta 2 hopefully)

Regards,
Nathan


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Nathan,
Your text is not wrapping in your posts when displayed on a Mac Tiger  
Mail client. Have you guys applied to be listed at the iTunes Podcast  
Directory yet? I can't find you listed no matter how many different  
search items I try.

So this is the counter ANT? Well it doesn't see PDFs. And since I  
plan on using PDFs a lot with my video and audio posts - separate of  
course as iTunes can't see more than one - this is a limitation I  
can't handle.

This is a publisher's point of view. Completely not necessarily  
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 30/8/05 Andreas Haugstrup mentioned about Re: 
[videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered! that:
This may be stupid (but I can't see why). But why not slap a browser on 
your tablet PC, PDA, PSP or other acronym. Distribute your 'book' as HTML
and call it a day?

because most implementations of ebooks that are any good want to do 
things like annotations, dog ear pages, margin notes, and even 
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 30/8/05 Joshua Kinberg mentioned about Re: [videoblogging] 
I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered! that:
PDFs are for printers.

nah, that's just a hegemonic myth maintained by graphic designers :-)

See URL: 
http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/08/31/vogbook/  for 
something in pdf I made in 2003 or 4. I've also seen a fantastic 
conference presentation with *a lot* of quicktime delivered entirely 
via PDF. The latest versions of Acrobat Pro do this very very well.
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-30 Thread Joshua Kinberg
 nah, that's just a hegemonic myth maintained by graphic designers :-)

Maybe I'm showing my background here as a graphic designer then.
If I brought my PDF with embedded quicktime to a printer, what would happen?

:-)

-Josh


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 around the 30/8/05 Joshua Kinberg mentioned about Re: [videoblogging]
 I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered! that:
 PDFs are for printers.
 
 nah, that's just a hegemonic myth maintained by graphic designers :-)
 
 See URL:
 http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/08/31/vogbook/  for
 something in pdf I made in 2003 or 4. I've also seen a fantastic
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-29 Thread Kunga
Nathan,
Your text is not wrapping in your posts when displayed on a Mac Tiger  
Mail client. Have you guys applied to be listed at the iTunes Podcast  
Directory yet? I can't find you listed no matter how many different  
search items I try.

So this is the counter ANT? Well it doesn't see PDFs. And since I  
plan on using PDFs a lot with my video and audio posts - separate of  
course as iTunes can't see more than one - this is a limitation I  
can't handle.

This is a publisher's point of view. Completely not necessarily  
appropriate.
-- 
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New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist
Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley
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This is the plain text translation that does wrap:

On Aug 25, 2005, at 4:32 PM, nathan.freitas wrote:

 In the spirit of all the little guys cooperating instead of  
 competing, I'd like to let everyone know that I/ON now features a  
 shiny new Home screen, powered by the amazing Mefeedia (a.k.a.  
 Peter)! On the primary screen of I/ON, users will be presented with  
 a rotating listing of Popular, New, and Random videoblogs, pulled  
 straight out of Mefeedia, thanks to Peter's flexible system. To see  
 what this looks like in your browser, you can go here: http:// 
 openvision.tv/home/viewer/ This also means that we won't have a  
 separate place that you (as a videoblogger) have to worry (or care)  
 about registering your videoblog with. We really want our users to  
 be exposed to all of your great content, and hopefully, we both win  
 - happy users and more subscribers. Finally, we've created some  
 screencast videos that cover this new feature, as well as the  
 basics of installing and using I/ON. You can view them via the  
 following feed or page links:  I/ON Screencast Feed (MOV, MP4):  
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/IONScreencasts Quicktime/MP4 Videoblog:  
 http://openvision.tv/channels/channel.jsp?channel=14 Flash Video  
 Page: http://openvision.tv/movies/tutorials/IONScreencast1.html And  
 if you haven't tried I/ON yet, you can download the beta 1 release  
 for free at http://openvision.tv/home/ion.html It's just another  
 fun way to get your daily videoblog fix! Thanks, Nathan  
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Re: [videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-29 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Why using PDFs? Why not just use the blog entry to include any text/images?

-Josh


On 8/29/05, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nathan,
 Your text is not wrapping in your posts when displayed on a Mac Tiger
 Mail client. Have you guys applied to be listed at the iTunes Podcast
 Directory yet? I can't find you listed no matter how many different
 search items I try.
 
 So this is the counter ANT? Well it doesn't see PDFs. And since I
 plan on using PDFs a lot with my video and audio posts - separate of
 course as iTunes can't see more than one - this is a limitation I
 can't handle.
 
 This is a publisher's point of view. Completely not necessarily
 appropriate.
 --
 Taylor Barcroft
 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist
 Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley
 http://FutureMedia.org
 
 This is the plain text translation that does wrap:
 
 On Aug 25, 2005, at 4:32 PM, nathan.freitas wrote:
 
  In the spirit of all the little guys cooperating instead of
  competing, I'd like to let everyone know that I/ON now features a
  shiny new Home screen, powered by the amazing Mefeedia (a.k.a.
  Peter)! On the primary screen of I/ON, users will be presented with
  a rotating listing of Popular, New, and Random videoblogs, pulled
  straight out of Mefeedia, thanks to Peter's flexible system. To see
  what this looks like in your browser, you can go here: http://
  openvision.tv/home/viewer/ This also means that we won't have a
  separate place that you (as a videoblogger) have to worry (or care)
  about registering your videoblog with. We really want our users to
  be exposed to all of your great content, and hopefully, we both win
  - happy users and more subscribers. Finally, we've created some
  screencast videos that cover this new feature, as well as the
  basics of installing and using I/ON. You can view them via the
  following feed or page links:  I/ON Screencast Feed (MOV, MP4):
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/IONScreencasts Quicktime/MP4 Videoblog:
  http://openvision.tv/channels/channel.jsp?channel=14 Flash Video
  Page: http://openvision.tv/movies/tutorials/IONScreencast1.html And
  if you haven't tried I/ON yet, you can download the beta 1 release
  for free at http://openvision.tv/home/ion.html It's just another
  fun way to get your daily videoblog fix! Thanks, Nathan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/
  itcamefrombrooklyn
 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] I/ON: Now Mefeedia-Powered!

2005-08-25 Thread nathan.freitas







In the spirit of all the little guys cooperating instead of competing, I'd like to let everyone know that I/ON now features a shiny new "Home" screen, powered by the amazing Mefeedia (a.k.a. Peter)!

On the primary screen of I/ON, users will be presented with a rotating listing of Popular, New, and Random videoblogs, pulled straight out of Mefeedia, thanks to Peter's flexible system. To see what this looks like in your browser, you can go here: http://openvision.tv/home/viewer/ 

This also means that we won't have a separate place that you (as a videoblogger) have to worry (or care) about registering your videoblog with. We really want our users to be exposed to all of your great content, and hopefully, we both win - happy users and more subscribers.

Finally, we've created some screencast videos that cover this new feature, as well as the basics of installing and using I/ON. You can view them via the following feed or page links:

I/ON Screencast Feed (MOV, MP4): http://feeds.feedburner.com/IONScreencasts
Quicktime/MP4 Videoblog: http://openvision.tv/channels/channel.jsp?channel=14
Flash Video Page: http://openvision.tv/movies/tutorials/IONScreencast1.html
 
And if you haven't tried I/ON yet, you can download the beta 1 release for free at http://openvision.tv/home/ion.html It's just another fun way to get your daily videoblog fix! 

Thanks,
Nathan

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my videoblog: http://openvision.tv/itcamefrombrooklyn







  
  
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