Re: [videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs
videoEgg is great and doign really well they are in sf and provide the back end of video from places like dogster.com and catster.com which has tons of super niche content that is very easy to sell advertising on (oops, preposition) can u say pets? and dogster and catster manage to be ethical as they see fit, they dont advertise non-safe breeders or puppy/kitten farms, etc. On Nov 22, 2007 10:26 AM, bordercollieaustralianshepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joanna Shields of Bebo is quoted in that article as saying As more and more interesting content from major media brands becomes available ... ... from the few Mega Media Conglomerates REALLY? I've got 1,000 channels and find it extremely difficult to find anything interesting to watch. There're gobs and gobs of stultifying treacle and palaver, but very little that qualifies as 'interesting.' And there sure doesn't seem, ever, to be 'more and more' of it. Rather, it seems there's ever less and less spread thinner and thinner and reheated, rehashed and re-served. I almost stopped reading here, then I felt a bit foolish, your thoughts are about a sticky subject, any attempt by me to persuade you to continue or elaborate or expand or provide examples or expound or evangelize or preach or persuade would be ass kissing In the same article we're told Tom Green is a professional. REALLY? His comedy bores me. Ask a Ninja is funnier as is Unleashed and many other amateur internet programs. So, maybe Tom Green is the amateur and the creators of those shows are the professionals. Tom Green, Tome Greens, Tom Greene, hello hello hello ... Tom Grenius!! The man is a comedic/technological/freaking GENIUS. I hope the networks have a whole lineup of shows just like Tom Green Yeah, that's it. You and me, we are the professionals. Whether you consider yourself a content creator or producer or videographer or vlogger or any other name that describes what you do making videos for online consumption, you are a professional if you want to be. And here's how: I do, I really do ... closing eyes. Professional as we use it today is a co-opted, bastardized term, roughly meaning expert or someone who gets paid for something. Thus, you are a professional clown if you get paid for being a clown, much like the anchors on your nightly network news program. And, if everyone you know calls you an ass, then you're a professional ass because you're really expert at it. Do compliments count as credibility toward the designation Professional? Originally, to be a professional, one needed to be a member of the learned arts, namely divinity, law, and medicine. And for a long time after that, a professional was anyone who passed a rigorous qualifying exam of mental skill. Thus, if you were a doctor, lawyer, CPA, engineer, or actuary, you were a professional, but you couldn't be a professional garbage man. It was a status designation. Wow, you just marginalized a small but growing segment of the scientific community. Garbage is no longer a 7 letter word, or something that sparks snickering or nausea ... I think you should rethink who you want to single out here ... just saying But that's all changed now. You're a professional at what you get paid for. Thus, Tiger Woods is a professional golfer because he gets paid to golf and a NYC sanitation worker is a professional sanitation engineer. And if you have ever made $.01 from blip.tv or any other revenue sharing video site or you're just really good at it (and aren't we all?) then you're a professional whatever you want to call it. Perhaps you or a loved one needs certification issued by a self certified, certificate issuer, if so, seek no more. I never mentioned it here before but ... if you send me proof of earnings (yes it's true even One Red Cent) from any site that payed you and $49.95 (plus Shipping handling and all applicable taxes), I will send you a beautiful (suitable for framing) anything you want to be certified as a professional. You won't find an offer online from me, like that anywhere ... I guarantee that However you fill in that blank, I hope you don't fill in content creator. That term is impersonal and abstract. We're artists, storytellers, diarists, filmmakers, journalists, videographers, photographers, what have you. Content creator suggests some awful bladder hooked up to hoses, ingesting material and extruding content. Hey ... Bladder. Kidney. Whatever ... I made this joke first ... remember? Two girls One cup ... metaphor for Consumerism Recycled Content come on ... don't let this David Casting guy distract you with his clever observation and well written post. Where did they find those Two Girls? Oh and this week at WalledMart buy One Cup, Get the Second Cup Free, That's like getting 50% off
[videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs
Joanna Shields of Bebo is quoted in that article as saying As more and more interesting content from major media brands becomes available ... REALLY? I've got 1,000 channels and find it extremely difficult to find anything interesting to watch. There're gobs and gobs of stultifying treacle and palaver, but very little that qualifies as 'interesting.' And there sure doesn't seem, ever, to be 'more and more' of it. Rather, it seems there's ever less and less spread thinner and thinner and reheated, rehashed and re-served. In the same article we're told Tom Green is a professional. REALLY? His comedy bores me. Ask a Ninja is funnier as is Unleashed and many other amateur internet programs. So, maybe Tom Green is the amateur and the creators of those shows are the professionals. Yeah, that's it. You and me, we are the professionals. Whether you consider yourself a content creator or producer or videographer or vlogger or any other name that describes what you do making videos for online consumption, you are a professional if you want to be. And here's how: Professional as we use it today is a co-opted, bastardized term, roughly meaning expert or someone who gets paid for something. Thus, you are a professional clown if you get paid for being a clown, much like the anchors on your nightly network news program. And, if everyone you know calls you an ass, then you're a professional ass because you're really expert at it. Originally, to be a professional, one needed to be a member of the learned arts, namely divinity, law, and medicine. And for a long time after that, a professional was anyone who passed a rigorous qualifying exam of mental skill. Thus, if you were a doctor, lawyer, CPA, engineer, or actuary, you were a professional, but you couldn't be a professional garbage man. It was a status designation. But that's all changed now. You're a professional at what you get paid for. Thus, Tiger Woods is a professional golfer because he gets paid to golf and a NYC sanitation worker is a professional sanitation engineer. And if you have ever made $.01 from blip.tv or any other revenue sharing video site or you're just really good at it (and aren't we all?) then you're a professional whatever you want to call it. However you fill in that blank, I hope you don't fill in content creator. That term is impersonal and abstract. We're artists, storytellers, diarists, filmmakers, journalists, videographers, photographers, what have you. Content creator suggests some awful bladder hooked up to hoses, ingesting material and extruding content. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree with the opposing perspectives in this thread what also came to mind is that as soon as life's catastrophic events occur, suddenly it will be realized again the power of the so-called user-gen content. user-gen does not HAVE to mean teens expressing and working their personalities to each other on youtube. user-gen does not have to mean silly prank videos. user-gen does not have to mean strip-tease or dancing or ANYTHING in front of a damn immobile webcam. user-gen CAN be citizen journalism and art. Let's not forget... and if needed, remind the dimwits and story-fabricators in the world. show them! Sull On Nov 20, 2007 6:37 PM, Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs As more professionally produced content finds a home online, user-generated video becomes less alluring to viewersand advertisers http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2007/tc20071119_7018 31.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_top+stories http://tinyurl.com/2mac2l Has anyone ever heard of VideoEgg and ManiaTV? Did BusinessWeek try to interview executives from known online video outlets? . . . Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog VM/F 202-478-0490 To thine own self be true. __ __ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
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Really? The first time I heard anyone use the term content provider, it was artist Laurie Andersen. Perhaps she was being sarcastic to refer to herself as such. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However you fill in that blank, I hope you don't fill in content creator. That term is impersonal and abstract. We're artists, storytellers, diarists, filmmakers, journalists, videographers, photographers, what have you. Content creator suggests some awful bladder hooked up to hoses, ingesting material and extruding content.
[videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs
Joanna Shields of Bebo is quoted in that article as saying As more and more interesting content from major media brands becomes available ... ... from the few Mega Media Conglomerates REALLY? I've got 1,000 channels and find it extremely difficult to find anything interesting to watch. There're gobs and gobs of stultifying treacle and palaver, but very little that qualifies as 'interesting.' And there sure doesn't seem, ever, to be 'more and more' of it. Rather, it seems there's ever less and less spread thinner and thinner and reheated, rehashed and re-served. I almost stopped reading here, then I felt a bit foolish, your thoughts are about a sticky subject, any attempt by me to persuade you to continue or elaborate or expand or provide examples or expound or evangelize or preach or persuade would be ass kissing In the same article we're told Tom Green is a professional. REALLY? His comedy bores me. Ask a Ninja is funnier as is Unleashed and many other amateur internet programs. So, maybe Tom Green is the amateur and the creators of those shows are the professionals. Tom Green, Tome Greens, Tom Greene, hello hello hello ... Tom Grenius!! The man is a comedic/technological/freaking GENIUS. I hope the networks have a whole lineup of shows just like Tom Green Yeah, that's it. You and me, we are the professionals. Whether you consider yourself a content creator or producer or videographer or vlogger or any other name that describes what you do making videos for online consumption, you are a professional if you want to be. And here's how: I do, I really do ... closing eyes. Professional as we use it today is a co-opted, bastardized term, roughly meaning expert or someone who gets paid for something. Thus, you are a professional clown if you get paid for being a clown, much like the anchors on your nightly network news program. And, if everyone you know calls you an ass, then you're a professional ass because you're really expert at it. Do compliments count as credibility toward the designation Professional? Originally, to be a professional, one needed to be a member of the learned arts, namely divinity, law, and medicine. And for a long time after that, a professional was anyone who passed a rigorous qualifying exam of mental skill. Thus, if you were a doctor, lawyer, CPA, engineer, or actuary, you were a professional, but you couldn't be a professional garbage man. It was a status designation. Wow, you just marginalized a small but growing segment of the scientific community. Garbage is no longer a 7 letter word, or something that sparks snickering or nausea ... I think you should rethink who you want to single out here ... just saying But that's all changed now. You're a professional at what you get paid for. Thus, Tiger Woods is a professional golfer because he gets paid to golf and a NYC sanitation worker is a professional sanitation engineer. And if you have ever made $.01 from blip.tv or any other revenue sharing video site or you're just really good at it (and aren't we all?) then you're a professional whatever you want to call it. Perhaps you or a loved one needs certification issued by a self certified, certificate issuer, if so, seek no more. I never mentioned it here before but ... if you send me proof of earnings (yes it's true even One Red Cent) from any site that payed you and $49.95 (plus Shipping handling and all applicable taxes), I will send you a beautiful (suitable for framing) anything you want to be certified as a professional. You won't find an offer online from me, like that anywhere ... I guarantee that However you fill in that blank, I hope you don't fill in content creator. That term is impersonal and abstract. We're artists, storytellers, diarists, filmmakers, journalists, videographers, photographers, what have you. Content creator suggests some awful bladder hooked up to hoses, ingesting material and extruding content. Hey ... Bladder. Kidney. Whatever ... I made this joke first ... remember? Two girls One cup ... metaphor for Consumerism Recycled Content come on ... don't let this David Casting guy distract you with his clever observation and well written post. Where did they find those Two Girls? Oh and this week at WalledMart buy One Cup, Get the Second Cup Free, That's like getting 50% off two cups!! Enjoyed the read --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull sulleleven@ wrote: i agree with the opposing perspectives in this thread what also came to mind is that as soon as life's catastrophic events occur, suddenly it will be realized again the power of the so-called user-gen content. user-gen does not HAVE to mean teens expressing and working their personalities to each other on youtube. user-gen does not have to mean silly prank videos. user-gen does not have to mean strip-tease or dancing or
[videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs
They can't write, Look, wow, video is online anymore, so they have to find a new angle in order to justify the article. There's much more slickly produced content online now than last time old media 'discovered' online video. Now it's time to revisit and see what's changed. In editors' and journalists' minds, there has to be change and conflict to interest the reader. For an article about a changing scene to be interesting, someone has to win and someone has to lose. So if there's more slick video content online now, it must be at the expense of the 'user generated' content. Print journalist teams are being cut back and cut back. They can't sell enough papers. And yet they stick with the same tired old formula. A versus B. Good luck, idiots, as you write yourselves into unemployment. The good news is that we have room for subtlety and truth in online text and video, because we're not working within the confines of a limited print space or TV schedule. Rupert --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] The article looks like propaganda to steer advertisers away from indy content to me.
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Well said Rupert. Good reasons to eliminate competition and snark from my life. Snark and competition (winners / losers) are the psychological equivalents of car wrecks: it's nearly impossible not to look. I'm working to develop the capacity to turn my head away. Advertisers are a bit more reluctant to trust the user-generated stuff. They feel better aligned with the professional stuff, and that is driving a lot of these changes, says Burst CEO Jarvis Coffin. No doubt advertisers are 'reluctant' to support user-generated content. They're reluctant because they're frightened that users will speak the truth. Producers are similarly frightened to speak the truth and perhaps offend audiences and advertisers. Advertisers and producers and the audiences who can't turn their heads away from accidents belong together. As I've said before, advertising is flawed since by its nature, it fosters a culture of hyperbole and lies. At least when you're advertising multi-national corporations it leads to those things. The alternatives are micropayments for things like news and investigative journalism, and geocentric advertising in support of small business. I think $2,500 is fair for a one-minute commercial distributed widely on the web. If you can produce two or three of those things a month you can make a decent living, no? XO, Jan On 11/21/07, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They can't write, Look, wow, video is online anymore, so they have to find a new angle in order to justify the article. There's much more slickly produced content online now than last time old media 'discovered' online video. Now it's time to revisit and see what's changed. In editors' and journalists' minds, there has to be change and conflict to interest the reader. For an article about a changing scene to be interesting, someone has to win and someone has to lose. So if there's more slick video content online now, it must be at the expense of the 'user generated' content. Print journalist teams are being cut back and cut back. They can't sell enough papers. And yet they stick with the same tired old formula. A versus B. Good luck, idiots, as you write yourselves into unemployment. The good news is that we have room for subtlety and truth in online text and video, because we're not working within the confines of a limited print space or TV schedule. Rupert --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] The article looks like propaganda to steer advertisers away from indy content to me. -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/diaryofafauxjournalist - RSS http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Another misleading claim in this article is that celebrity videos = slick professionalism. I noticed Will Ferrel was mentioned. His drunk baby thing has the look and feel of user generated content. The angle could have been, if you can't beat the amateurs, join 'em.
[videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs
Yeah. That article is not wrong when it says that most advertisers are more comfortable with 'professional' stuff, and its not wrong to say that there is a lot more of such content appearing legitimately on the net. Whats interesting is how desperate it is to celebrate this and diss amateur stuff so much. And thats where Jan's comments come in, spot on :) Thats one of the reasons I laugh when PR slugs start wanking on about how web 2.0 can be harnessed to turn their used car salesmen banter into the next billion dollar ticket to glory. The way I see it, TV has gradually lost a lot of its authenticity, and so bullshit advertising lies dont seem so out of place. Wheras on the web, they all too often stand out a mile, the lack of authenticity and the poor acting, the base shilling and feigned excitement over the latest wonder product you simply must own, seem truly alien when sitting so close to the genuine humanity that can be found in amateur video, or well made non-compromised pro offerings. And even the most biased newspaper, magezine, or blog, has quite a bit of its propaganda neutralised the moment they offer comments and people use them. Its so much fun to see evidence everyday of people thinking carefully about what they read and see, and offering their own thoughts. eg as a techie I look at techcrunch and am frequently annoyed by it, but the comments usually provide a balance that undoes a lot of the shilling. Whats going on in the world of blog vlog credibility these days anyways, doesnt seem to come up as much anymore. Have the likes of PayPerPost done the predicted harm to the blogosphere? Did Amanda Congdons Dupont shilling and subsequent hilarious comments about rules not applying, have a negative affect on her, or is it too early to tell, or impossible to judge? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No doubt advertisers are 'reluctant' to support user-generated content. They're reluctant because they're frightened that users will speak the truth. Producers are similarly frightened to speak the truth and perhaps offend audiences and advertisers. Advertisers and producers and the audiences who can't turn their heads away from accidents belong together. As I've said before, advertising is flawed since by its nature, it fosters a culture of hyperbole and lies. At least when you're advertising multi-national corporations it leads to those things. The alternatives are micropayments for things like news and investigative journalism, and geocentric advertising in support of small business. I think $2,500 is fair for a one-minute commercial distributed widely on the web. If you can produce two or three of those things a month you can make a decent living, no? XO, Jan
[videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs
Regarding the positive stuff for the small content creator, a possibly rewarding relationship with small local business doing the advertising Ive said before that a lot of small businesses dont have too high of an opinion about spending much money on advertising. I guess there are many reasons, including the often awfully produced local/radio adverts that they are used to getting. They dont want their ads to make them look bad, and they would possibly also have some of the same concerns as large advertisers when it comes to control, controversy, etc. Plus I would say that whilst they may not be able to do bad things on the scale of large companies, they often arent saints either and would have just the same cause to lie or distort in their advertising as a giant. Oh well, dont mean to be negative, and Im in the camp that believes business should be changing on a real and meaningful level to fit the realities of the net, not the other way around, The net is just all the humans that you got a away with being able to lie to and pick on and exploit, but with the potential to talk to eachother, which can vastly reduce their exploitability. Business that would be happy to let all their customers meet and talk about anything, at any time, have nothing to fear. Those who have businesses that rely on the customer, or the workers for that matter, remaining divided, isolated, and stupid, might want to consider altering course. Unless you have a product that acts as a penis extension in which case people will overlook the shite. Hell people have been able to turn a blind eye to enough horrors and exploitation ove rthe centuries, despite it being obvious, so maybe the net wont make a difference after all. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The alternatives are micropayments for things like news and investigative journalism, and geocentric advertising in support of small business. I think $2,500 is fair for a one-minute commercial distributed widely on the web. If you can produce two or three of those things a month you can make a decent living, no? XO, Jan
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Thanks for the article... And I guess no one is going to read blogs anymore since we have Business Week on the Web. If anything, the shift of TV shows moving to the Web will INCREASE the amount of viewers for ALL video. It means that Mainstream Mom will start feeling comfortable watching video online. That is great! It opens up an even bigger audience beyond the 18-25 year-olds that currently dominate online video viewing. Regards, -Frank -- Frank Sinton CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mefeedia.com/user/franks/ - What are you watching? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for sharing this. Tim Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV The Viral Video of âHow Toâsâ by French Maids http://frenchmaidtv.com Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/ On Nov 20, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Kenya Allmond wrote: Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs As more professionally produced content finds a home online, user-generated video becomes less alluring to viewersÂand advertisers http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2007/ tc20071119_701831.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_top +stories http://tinyurl.com/2mac2l Has anyone ever heard of VideoEgg and ManiaTV? Did BusinessWeek try to interview executives from known online video outlets? . . . Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog VM/F 202-478-0490 To thine own self be true. __ __ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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bummer and i was just starting to get the hang of this On Nov 20, 2007 7:15 PM, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the article... And I guess no one is going to read blogs anymore since we have Business Week on the Web. If anything, the shift of TV shows moving to the Web will INCREASE the amount of viewers for ALL video. It means that Mainstream Mom will start feeling comfortable watching video online. That is great! It opens up an even bigger audience beyond the 18-25 year-olds that currently dominate online video viewing. Regards, -Frank -- Frank Sinton CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mefeedia.com/user/franks/ - What are you watching? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for sharing this. Tim Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids http://frenchmaidtv.com Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/ On Nov 20, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Kenya Allmond wrote: Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs As more professionally produced content finds a home online, user-generated video becomes less alluring to viewers—and advertisers http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2007/ tc20071119_701831.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_top +stories http://tinyurl.com/2mac2l Has anyone ever heard of VideoEgg and ManiaTV? Did BusinessWeek try to interview executives from known online video outlets? . . . Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog VM/F 202-478-0490 To thine own self be true. __ __ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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If anything, the shift of TV shows moving to the Web will INCREASE the amount of viewers for ALL video. It means that Mainstream Mom will start feeling comfortable watching video online. That is great! It opens up an even bigger audience beyond the 18-25 year-olds that currently dominate online video viewing. I agree. I think that for the average person these days, online video is synonymous with YouTube. Every time I have my camera out someone mentions YouTube. A few weeks ago, I showed a friend a video I made on Halloween. The first thing he said was That was neat. Are you going to put it on YouTube? It was already on my site so I didn't get why he thought it should be on YouTube. I showed another friend some online videos and she said that she had no idea such a thing existed on the Internet. She also didn't know that she could watch missed TV shows at the networks' websites. She knew about YouTube though. I think that as more video becomes available appetites for it will increase. I don't think it's a competition for viewers. The on-demand nature of online video will allow folks to watch everything instead of being forced to choose. I've already been watching network shows online. In a particular case it's 3 shows that come on at the same time. I watch 1 on TV if I'm home then watch the other 2 online when I feel like it. Otherwise I watch all 3 online at my leisure in between videos from folks on this list. I think that same will be the case when the masses start doing it. People aren't going to have to choose and I don't think they will. The article looks like propaganda to steer advertisers away from indy content to me. But I think that if an indy show has good viewership, that's probably a better deal for advertisers since indy shows spend significantly less than a big media show and therefore are able to accept less money than a mainstream show. . . . Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog VM/F 202-478-0490 To thine own self be true. - Original Message From: Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:15:31 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: ARTICLE - Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs Thanks for the article... And I guess no one is going to read blogs anymore since we have Business Week on the Web. If anything, the shift of TV shows moving to the Web will INCREASE the amount of viewers for ALL video. It means that Mainstream Mom will start feeling comfortable watching video online. That is great! It opens up an even bigger audience beyond the 18-25 year-olds that currently dominate online video viewing. Regards, -Frank -- Frank Sinton CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mefeedia.com/user/franks/ - What are you watching? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for sharing this. Tim Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV The Viral Video of How Tos by French Maids http://frenchmaidtv.com Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/ On Nov 20, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Kenya Allmond wrote: Web Video: Move Over, Amateurs As more professionally produced content finds a home online, user-generated video becomes less alluring to viewersand advertisers http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2007/ tc20071119_701831.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_top +stories http://tinyurl.com/2mac2l Has anyone ever heard of VideoEgg and ManiaTV? Did BusinessWeek try to interview executives from known online video outlets? . . . Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog VM/F 202-478-0490 To thine own self be true. __ __ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL
