[videoblogging] Re: Macbook Pro + Final Cut Express 4 = Fail!
Sounds about right, I've been working with FCE4 on a 2GB MBP, and it's been taking 2 hours to render 8 minutes of footage. It's to be expected. That said, I've been very happy with the results! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sheldon Pineo icen...@... wrote: Ok folks. Santa brought me a 4gig MBP and a copy of FCE 4. I've been using Premiere Pro 1.5 for the past few years and wanted to switch to something that can handle HD. I'm working on a simple sequence using a green screen and some simple graphics. My problem is in rendering. First, Real Time rendering, even with the frame rate set low, stops due to dropping frames so it's not possible to watch the sequence. If I switch to safe render, nothing shows until the sequence is rendered which takes 15 minutes for a 2 minute segment! Then, if I make a change, it wants to render again. Seeing the number of people on this list with MBPs and using FC Pro, I know most, if not all, of my problems are settings, or something very simple. Any ideas on how I can make this a better experience? Oh. Original footage is from my Canon HV30 shot in HDV mode. Thanks! Shel. -- www.icenrye.com www.icenrye.blogspot.com www.icenryelikes.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Macbook Pro + Final Cut Express 4 = Fail!
Rendering drives me nuts on Final Cut. I use footage from multiple sources and premiere or sony vegas can accept it. It seems that Final Cut has a closed system, and is designed not to be able to use imported clips from or to multiple platforms. When are they going to open up? Good luck! D --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sheldon Pineo icen...@... wrote: Ok folks. Santa brought me a 4gig MBP and a copy of FCE 4. I've been using Premiere Pro 1.5 for the past few years and wanted to switch to something that can handle HD. I'm working on a simple sequence using a green screen and some simple graphics. My problem is in rendering. First, Real Time rendering, even with the frame rate set low, stops due to dropping frames so it's not possible to watch the sequence. If I switch to safe render, nothing shows until the sequence is rendered which takes 15 minutes for a 2 minute segment! Then, if I make a change, it wants to render again. Seeing the number of people on this list with MBPs and using FC Pro, I know most, if not all, of my problems are settings, or something very simple. Any ideas on how I can make this a better experience? Oh. Original footage is from my Canon HV30 shot in HDV mode. Thanks! Shel. -- www.icenrye.com www.icenrye.blogspot.com www.icenryelikes.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro questions
I'll add a few things that probably arent too important but I'll say em anyway... Yes the new 17 is 1920 res, but unlike the 15 it is still available in a matte version as wel as glossy. To be honest 17 is a bit small for that res anyway. There are some nicely priced 22 and 24 monitors that can do that res, and apart from colour-related issues which Brook was talking about, they are a pretty good match for editing 1080p footage. Stille ven 24 feels small for 1080p sometimes, I have a 720p projector and watching films on that is great, even though its a lower res - 720p aint bad at all. Brooks advice about deinterlacing is very good, although if you are publishing to the web in resolutions that are half your source res, you can skirt round the issue (if you export to half the vertical res than it makes deinterlacing irrelevant because you are throwing away half the vertical lines which eliminates the issue). Also if you are lucky enough to have a 720p or 1080p camera then you dont need to worry about deinterlacing as the footage is already progressive. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irene Duma ir...@... wrote: Ok. Thanks a lot for your detailed response. Very helpful... Irene Duma Strange Duck Media Web Design and Creative Marketing Blogging easy computer tips http://www.strangeduck.com/blog and comedy at http://www.bittertonic.com St. John¹s Address: 12 Allan Square St. John's, NL A1C 4A8 T. 709-726-6178 C.709-699-8205 From: Brook Hinton bhin...@... Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:21:22 -0800 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Macbook pro questions The only way you would edit HD while viewing it at its native resolution is with an external monitor no matter what. And plenty of us do most of our HD editing on portable systems, though Rupert's ergonomic advice is indeed sage. Also, if you are thinking you need HD resolution to see what your video actually looks like, keep in mind that even an external monitor won't do that. You need either a tower with a video-video (as opposed to computer video) card going out to a broadcast monitor (VERRY expensive for HD), or a system like a Matrox MXO that lets an external Apple Cinema Display (the LCD versions - I don't know if the the LED's can display interlaced video or if they're compatible with the MXO) emulate a broadcast HD monitor. You have to be able to calibrate color bars and a blue only switch - its not the same as color calibrating for other work on a computer (The MXO, and probably some other solutions, let you do this). If your final output is just for the web, it's not so much of an issue - you just need to calibrate whatever monitor you use, compensate for the differing gamma between systems, and REMEMBER TO deinterlace or use some other method to convert any interlaced material to progressive so you don't get those horrible interlace artifacts on output. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
Hmm. Checking out Disk Warrior right now. Looks good. Thanks. Yup I have 3 drives and I am still spooked. Irene Duma Strange Duck Media Web Design and Creative Marketing Blogging easy computer tips http://www.strangeduck.com/blog and comedy at http://www.bittertonic.com St. John¹s Address: 12 Allan Square St. John's, NL A1C 4A8 T. 709-726-6178 C.709-699-8205 From: Michael Verdi michaelve...@gmail.com Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:16:03 -0600 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing Yeah, hard drives. Over the years I've lost a pretty good amount of things. A couple of weeks ago I had FCP just randomly freeze while capturing video and it messed my drive up. I had to use the special scavenge mode in Disk Warrior to fix it. So now I have a NewerTech mirrored raid so everything is written to two drives at once. Then if one drive fails you can replace it while still having access to everything on the other drive. But that still doesn't help if you have something happen like my FCP weirdness a couple of weeks ago. So I have yet another drive that backs up my computer and my raid using Time Machine. Now I'm covered unless something bad happens right here at my desk. But if that happens, I may have more to worry about than hard drives. - Verdi On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Irene Duma ir...@strangeduck.com mailto:irene%40strangeduck.com wrote: Argh. My kingdom for the perfect harddrive. I had had no problem with Lacie¹s until this 1TB beast. It hasn¹t died, but crashes my Finder all the time. Google searches showed that Lacie¹s cause many crashes. Not good. I keep it off till I do a major backup, then turn it off immediately after. I have 2 other drives, one 4 years old, that works flawlessly. Gtech had been recommended to me by someone else before. I will look at Drobo next... Thanks. FWIW at Smashface we had a G-Tech 160gb drive that died after only a few weeks - RMA'd for a replacement drive that ended up being flaky, too. They are good looking drives, but I'm not too keen on them. If you're looking for something a little more robust, flexible, etc take a look at Drobo: http://drobo.com/Products/drobo.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://michaelverdi.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
One more thing to considernis off site archives as well. Have a friend store your old drives and you store old drives for a friend. That way you have backups physically in another location in case of a disaster. -Lan www.LanBui.com (Sent from my iPhone)
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
Also, it's important to consider the type of storage. If you live in a major western city, you'd be crazy not to also backup onto optical disks and bury them at 4-5 feet, so that your data can survive the electromagnetic pulse that follows a nuclear explosion. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 18-Dec-08, at 12:52 PM, Lan Bui wrote: One more thing to considernis off site archives as well. Have a friend store your old drives and you store old drives for a friend. That way you have backups physically in another location in case of a disaster. -Lan www.LanBui.com (Sent from my iPhone) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
Done. Can¹t call me crazy (no more.) Irene Duma Strange Duck Media Web Design and Creative Marketing Blogging easy computer tips http://www.strangeduck.com/blog and comedy at http://www.bittertonic.com St. John¹s Address: 12 Allan Square St. John's, NL A1C 4A8 T. 709-726-6178 C.709-699-8205 From: Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:10:40 -0800 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing Also, it's important to consider the type of storage. If you live in a major western city, you'd be crazy not to also backup onto optical disks and bury them at 4-5 feet, so that your data can survive the electromagnetic pulse that follows a nuclear explosion. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 18-Dec-08, at 12:52 PM, Lan Bui wrote: One more thing to considernis off site archives as well. Have a friend store your old drives and you store old drives for a friend. That way you have backups physically in another location in case of a disaster. -Lan www.LanBui.com (Sent from my iPhone) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
I've had 3 Lacie power supplies fail (overheated I think) but not the actual drive mechanism itself. I just ordered replacement power supplies. Oh, these Lacie's run all the time, tons of read/writes, and they've done fairly well. Pete David Terranova wrote: I vaguely remember a similar discussion a few months ago... but I steer clear of Lacie. 2 of mine failed and several friends have had the same problem. When speaking our hardware support company, they advised me to avoid them completely, I think they¹ve actually stopped selling them because they got so many customers sending them back. They strongly recommend using G-tech which is considered a lot more industrial than the home-use drives such as lacie. So I know own a G-Raid which works perfectly with fcp on my macbook.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
G-Tech does have a good rep these days but they are pricey. All FW drives are fragile and they all die. All brands. The infamous failed-within-a-month phenom affects a small percentage of them all - warranties and backups are important. There are still people who swear by Lacie. Generally people swear by the last drive they've tried. Until it fails, then they hate THAT brand. The only downside to a MBP for FCP Studio is slow rendering time compared to a new tower. Compared to a G5 they scream though. Downside for After Effects is 4GB max ram. Other than that they're great. I edit HD prores on mine all the time, and even do color correction for clients (with additional outboard gear) with one. If you plan on doing a lot of work in Color (meaning the app), though, a tower is worth the bother. Brook On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:14 AM, David Terranova da...@davidterranova.comwrote: I vaguely remember a similar discussion a few months ago... but I steer clear of Lacie. 2 of mine failed and several friends have had the same problem. When speaking our hardware support company, they advised me to avoid them completely, I think they¹ve actually stopped selling them because they got so many customers sending them back. They strongly recommend using G-tech which is considered a lot more industrial than the home-use drives such as lacie. So I know own a G-Raid which works perfectly with fcp on my macbook. -- David Terranova www.davidterranova.com | blog.davidterranova.com | www.rebelrave.tv From: Irene Duma ir...@strangeduck.com irene%40strangeduck.com Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:47:46 -0330 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing Cool. I think then the macbook pro will be a sweet treat as long as my G5 will hold out. Having the 2 would be good - to speed up Quicktime conversion. Oh, what size should I get. I have a 17 inch PC laptop. It¹s pretty big and heavy and though I love the screen size, portability is lost. So many decisions. I used to have good luck with Lacie harddrives but I just got a 1 Terrabyte Porsche on sale really cheap at Futureshop and it has caused my Mac to crash on numerous occasions. I think it blew something it¹s acting weird. I tried to run Onyx and it said I need to repair the start up disc. I don¹t know how to do that, so need to call someone in because I have enough stuff to learn and that kind of stuff scares me. I am now thinking of upgrading to Leopard. Does that make sense. Or do I have to repair the disk first? Argh. I only like computers when they work ;) Oh, and thanks for your reply. Will check newegg. Irene I use a MacBook Pro for all of my editing. But I'll soon be upgrading to a MacPro tower. My MBP is a couple of years old but still reliably handles Final Cut Pro and my HD footage. It's not the fastest of the bunch, but it does its job. A brand new MBP should be fine, so long as you don't need to do much rendering or effects work. You can only upgrade the RAM so much on the laptops, they eventually fizzle out in terms of abilities to tackle HD, etc. after a couple years and there's no upgrade path for them. The G5 should actually be enough, provided you have some good RAM in there, for HD needs. I don't recommend any heavy duty editing on a laptop because, like me, you'll get tied into so many external drives and devices that being mobile is the furthest thing from your mind. :) I've had good luck with Lacie external drives -- knock on wood. I have four so far and they are all running great. Price and performance tends to be good for them. There are some other more expensive models that have more solid track records. Check out Newegg.com and list models by rating and read some customer reviews. Good luck! Dom http://blog.gadzookfilms.com http://twitter.com/gadzook http://store.gadzookfilms.com . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
I vaguely remember a similar discussion a few months ago... but I steer clear of Lacie. 2 of mine failed and several friends have had the same problem. When speaking our hardware support company, they advised me to avoid them completely, I think they¹ve actually stopped selling them because they got so many customers sending them back. They strongly recommend using G-tech which is considered a lot more industrial than the home-use drives such as lacie. So I know own a G-Raid which works perfectly with fcp on my macbook. -- David Terranova www.davidterranova.com | blog.davidterranova.com | www.rebelrave.tv From: Irene Duma ir...@strangeduck.com Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:47:46 -0330 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing Cool. I think then the macbook pro will be a sweet treat as long as my G5 will hold out. Having the 2 would be good - to speed up Quicktime conversion. Oh, what size should I get. I have a 17 inch PC laptop. It¹s pretty big and heavy and though I love the screen size, portability is lost. So many decisions. I used to have good luck with Lacie harddrives but I just got a 1 Terrabyte Porsche on sale really cheap at Futureshop and it has caused my Mac to crash on numerous occasions. I think it blew something it¹s acting weird. I tried to run Onyx and it said I need to repair the start up disc. I don¹t know how to do that, so need to call someone in because I have enough stuff to learn and that kind of stuff scares me. I am now thinking of upgrading to Leopard. Does that make sense. Or do I have to repair the disk first? Argh. I only like computers when they work ;) Oh, and thanks for your reply. Will check newegg. Irene I use a MacBook Pro for all of my editing. But I'll soon be upgrading to a MacPro tower. My MBP is a couple of years old but still reliably handles Final Cut Pro and my HD footage. It's not the fastest of the bunch, but it does its job. A brand new MBP should be fine, so long as you don't need to do much rendering or effects work. You can only upgrade the RAM so much on the laptops, they eventually fizzle out in terms of abilities to tackle HD, etc. after a couple years and there's no upgrade path for them. The G5 should actually be enough, provided you have some good RAM in there, for HD needs. I don't recommend any heavy duty editing on a laptop because, like me, you'll get tied into so many external drives and devices that being mobile is the furthest thing from your mind. :) I've had good luck with Lacie external drives -- knock on wood. I have four so far and they are all running great. Price and performance tends to be good for them. There are some other more expensive models that have more solid track records. Check out Newegg.com and list models by rating and read some customer reviews. Good luck! Dom http://blog.gadzookfilms.com http://twitter.com/gadzook http://store.gadzookfilms.com . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
FWIW at Smashface we had a G-Tech 160gb drive that died after only a few weeks - RMA'd for a replacement drive that ended up being flaky, too. They are good looking drives, but I'm not too keen on them. If you're looking for something a little more robust, flexible, etc take a look at Drobo: http://drobo.com/Products/drobo.html Rick --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhin...@... wrote: G-Tech does have a good rep these days but they are pricey. All FW drives are fragile and they all die. All brands. The infamous failed-within-a-month phenom affects a small percentage of them all - warranties and backups are important. There are still people who swear by Lacie. Generally people swear by the last drive they've tried. Until it fails, then they hate THAT brand. The only downside to a MBP for FCP Studio is slow rendering time compared to a new tower. Compared to a G5 they scream though. Downside for After Effects is 4GB max ram. Other than that they're great. I edit HD prores on mine all the time, and even do color correction for clients (with additional outboard gear) with one. If you plan on doing a lot of work in Color (meaning the app), though, a tower is worth the bother. Brook On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:14 AM, David Terranova da...@...wrote: I vaguely remember a similar discussion a few months ago... but I steer clear of Lacie. 2 of mine failed and several friends have had the same problem. When speaking our hardware support company, they advised me to avoid them completely, I think they¹ve actually stopped selling them because they got so many customers sending them back. They strongly recommend using G-tech which is considered a lot more industrial than the home-use drives such as lacie. So I know own a G-Raid which works perfectly with fcp on my macbook. -- David Terranova www.davidterranova.com | blog.davidterranova.com | www.rebelrave.tv From: Irene Duma ir...@... irene%40strangeduck.com Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:47:46 -0330 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing Cool. I think then the macbook pro will be a sweet treat as long as my G5 will hold out. Having the 2 would be good - to speed up Quicktime conversion. Oh, what size should I get. I have a 17 inch PC laptop. It¹s pretty big and heavy and though I love the screen size, portability is lost. So many decisions. I used to have good luck with Lacie harddrives but I just got a 1 Terrabyte Porsche on sale really cheap at Futureshop and it has caused my Mac to crash on numerous occasions. I think it blew something it¹s acting weird. I tried to run Onyx and it said I need to repair the start up disc. I don¹t know how to do that, so need to call someone in because I have enough stuff to learn and that kind of stuff scares me. I am now thinking of upgrading to Leopard. Does that make sense. Or do I have to repair the disk first? Argh. I only like computers when they work ;) Oh, and thanks for your reply. Will check newegg. Irene I use a MacBook Pro for all of my editing. But I'll soon be upgrading to a MacPro tower. My MBP is a couple of years old but still reliably handles Final Cut Pro and my HD footage. It's not the fastest of the bunch, but it does its job. A brand new MBP should be fine, so long as you don't need to do much rendering or effects work. You can only upgrade the RAM so much on the laptops, they eventually fizzle out in terms of abilities to tackle HD, etc. after a couple years and there's no upgrade path for them. The G5 should actually be enough, provided you have some good RAM in there, for HD needs. I don't recommend any heavy duty editing on a laptop because, like me, you'll get tied into so many external drives and devices that being mobile is the furthest thing from your mind. :) I've had good luck with Lacie external drives -- knock on wood. I have four so far and they are all running great. Price and performance tends to be good for them. There are some other more expensive models that have more solid track records. Check out Newegg.com and list models by rating and read some customer reviews. Good luck! Dom http://blog.gadzookfilms.com http://twitter.com/gadzook http://store.gadzookfilms.com . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
Argh. My kingdom for the perfect harddrive. I had had no problem with Lacie¹s until this 1TB beast. It hasn¹t died, but crashes my Finder all the time. Google searches showed that Lacie¹s cause many crashes. Not good. I keep it off till I do a major backup, then turn it off immediately after. I have 2 other drives, one 4 years old, that works flawlessly. Gtech had been recommended to me by someone else before. I will look at Drobo next... Thanks. FWIW at Smashface we had a G-Tech 160gb drive that died after only a few weeks - RMA'd for a replacement drive that ended up being flaky, too. They are good looking drives, but I'm not too keen on them. If you're looking for something a little more robust, flexible, etc take a look at Drobo: http://drobo.com/Products/drobo.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
Yeah, hard drives. Over the years I've lost a pretty good amount of things. A couple of weeks ago I had FCP just randomly freeze while capturing video and it messed my drive up. I had to use the special scavenge mode in Disk Warrior to fix it. So now I have a NewerTech mirrored raid so everything is written to two drives at once. Then if one drive fails you can replace it while still having access to everything on the other drive. But that still doesn't help if you have something happen like my FCP weirdness a couple of weeks ago. So I have yet another drive that backs up my computer and my raid using Time Machine. Now I'm covered unless something bad happens right here at my desk. But if that happens, I may have more to worry about than hard drives. - Verdi On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Irene Duma ir...@strangeduck.com wrote: Argh. My kingdom for the perfect harddrive. I had had no problem with Lacie¹s until this 1TB beast. It hasn¹t died, but crashes my Finder all the time. Google searches showed that Lacie¹s cause many crashes. Not good. I keep it off till I do a major backup, then turn it off immediately after. I have 2 other drives, one 4 years old, that works flawlessly. Gtech had been recommended to me by someone else before. I will look at Drobo next... Thanks. FWIW at Smashface we had a G-Tech 160gb drive that died after only a few weeks - RMA'd for a replacement drive that ended up being flaky, too. They are good looking drives, but I'm not too keen on them. If you're looking for something a little more robust, flexible, etc take a look at Drobo: http://drobo.com/Products/drobo.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://michaelverdi.com
[videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
I use a MacBook Pro for all of my editing. But I'll soon be upgrading to a MacPro tower. My MBP is a couple of years old but still reliably handles Final Cut Pro and my HD footage. It's not the fastest of the bunch, but it does its job. A brand new MBP should be fine, so long as you don't need to do much rendering or effects work. You can only upgrade the RAM so much on the laptops, they eventually fizzle out in terms of abilities to tackle HD, etc. after a couple years and there's no upgrade path for them. The G5 should actually be enough, provided you have some good RAM in there, for HD needs. I don't recommend any heavy duty editing on a laptop because, like me, you'll get tied into so many external drives and devices that being mobile is the furthest thing from your mind. :) I've had good luck with Lacie external drives -- knock on wood. I have four so far and they are all running great. Price and performance tends to be good for them. There are some other more expensive models that have more solid track records. Check out Newegg.com and list models by rating and read some customer reviews. Good luck! Dom http://blog.gadzookfilms.com http://twitter.com/gadzook http://store.gadzookfilms.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irene Duma ir...@... wrote: Just checking to see if the Macbook pro can handle pro video editing with FCP. Anything I should know about? I have a 4 year old G5 duo tower now, so am thinking a prezzie for me would be nice this time of year. And a portable video editing machine would be super nice - if it could do the work. Can it handle HD? And what's the best external harddrive to get? Can you edit with all your clips on the external? So far I always keep mine on the tower. Thx a bunch. Irene Duma Strange Duck Media Web Design and Creative Marketing Blogging easy computer tips http://www.strangeduck.com/blog and comedy at http://www.bittertonic.com St. John�s Address: C.709-699-8205
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Macbook pro for video editing
Cool. I think then the macbook pro will be a sweet treat as long as my G5 will hold out. Having the 2 would be good - to speed up Quicktime conversion. Oh, what size should I get. I have a 17 inch PC laptop. It¹s pretty big and heavy and though I love the screen size, portability is lost. So many decisions. I used to have good luck with Lacie harddrives but I just got a 1 Terrabyte Porsche on sale really cheap at Futureshop and it has caused my Mac to crash on numerous occasions. I think it blew something it¹s acting weird. I tried to run Onyx and it said I need to repair the start up disc. I don¹t know how to do that, so need to call someone in because I have enough stuff to learn and that kind of stuff scares me. I am now thinking of upgrading to Leopard. Does that make sense. Or do I have to repair the disk first? Argh. I only like computers when they work ;) Oh, and thanks for your reply. Will check newegg. Irene I use a MacBook Pro for all of my editing. But I'll soon be upgrading to a MacPro tower. My MBP is a couple of years old but still reliably handles Final Cut Pro and my HD footage. It's not the fastest of the bunch, but it does its job. A brand new MBP should be fine, so long as you don't need to do much rendering or effects work. You can only upgrade the RAM so much on the laptops, they eventually fizzle out in terms of abilities to tackle HD, etc. after a couple years and there's no upgrade path for them. The G5 should actually be enough, provided you have some good RAM in there, for HD needs. I don't recommend any heavy duty editing on a laptop because, like me, you'll get tied into so many external drives and devices that being mobile is the furthest thing from your mind. :) I've had good luck with Lacie external drives -- knock on wood. I have four so far and they are all running great. Price and performance tends to be good for them. There are some other more expensive models that have more solid track records. Check out Newegg.com and list models by rating and read some customer reviews. Good luck! Dom http://blog.gadzookfilms.com http://twitter.com/gadzook http://store.gadzookfilms.com . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Macbook Pro...
My version has the Santa Rosa and LED screen from 8 mos ago. It's hands down the most solid computer I've ever owned. I usually have most of the Adobe Suite and FCP open all at the same time. 4 gigs of RAM helps. I would suggest it to anyone. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 2 yr old 2GHz, 2GB ram, 128MB video card, first revision MBP and I use it every day for editing HD video. I love it. I would love to have a new MacPro but I don't want to sacrifice portability and I can't afford one as a second machine. I'll probably keep this one another year and wait for the next generation of processors - http://www.macrumors.com/2008/03/19/intel-outlines-next-generation-processors-nehalem-due-in-late-2008/ - Verdi On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: love it bah! long live the glorious PC and Windows down with the evil cult of Mac, did you know that it's all those mac people who are creating all the computer viris's? And they are also responable for global warming, and they snore alot and have bad breath! Man.I really wish I had bought a mac, go for it! Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@ wrote: I have a Macbook Pro and I love it (love it love it). It's the first mac I've ever owned, so I can't really compare it to others for you but I can tell you how mine has performed... I have the 2.4 GHz (Intel Core 2 Duo) with 2 GB of RAM (I assume you meant to say yours would have 4GB no MB) Mine preforms very well. Last night I exporting a 5minute 480x270 multi-pass H.264 mp4 at 600kb with 192kbps stereo sound ... while I didn't actually time it I can remember / guess at this much: * it initially said it was going to take 20some minutes but didn't actually take nearly that long * It probably took 7-10 minutes? (I'm a pretty bad guesser of such things but ...) * It wasn't long enough that I even bothered walking away from the computer. Sometimes when I have a more complex edit with lots of filters in FCE, the real time rendering isn't great, but hitting option-r does a very quick render of the timeline for you. I'm sure there will be projects where you'll want/need go off to do something else while it exports ... but I've still always felt that my lil' macbook pro's export times fall well within expected and reasonable time frames. I have the glossy screen, and I really like it, but the glossy/matte issue seems to be kinda like arguing religion ... I'm not sure there really is a right answer. It's probably more about which looks better to your eye. well I dunno if any of that is helpful, but I use my Macbook Pro for all my editing/exporting now and I've not had any regrets. - Dave On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ron Watson k9disc@ wrote: Hey everybody, I'm looking to pick up a macbook pro in the not too distant future and was hoping to get some feedback as to how the new machines are performing, and any config suggestions. I'm looking at the 15 2.4Ghz 200GB with 4 MB of ram. Any help would be appreciated... I'll be taking a trip down to the Mac store sometime soon... Questions: How is rendering time on these machines? Is there a large difference between the 2.4 Ghz and 2.5 Ghz models? What are the pros cons with the glossy display? Cheers, Ron Watson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://graymattergravy.com http://reportsfromthefuture.com http://michaelverdi.com
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Ive got the previous generation macbook pro 2.4ghz. From what Ive read, the new ones are better for battery life heat, but not necessarily performance. (Less L2 cache on the CPU could be the reason for that). I dont think you'll see a noticable difference in performance between the 2.4 and 2.5ghz models, rendering should be a fraction quicker but we arent talking about a lot really. You'll probably be able to get more RAM cheaper if you dont get it from Apple, but would need to fit it double-check that (eg if Apple supply it with 2 x 1GB sticks and you have to replace both, it may not work out much cheaper, dunno what prices are like in the US or whether it ships with 2 x 1gb or 1 x 2gb.) Glossy screen gives colours and contrast that some prefer, with the downside being how much it reflects the user environment, which some hate. Opinion is really divided over this, seeing for yourself in store is all I can advise. I chickened out of glossy and stuck with matte when I got mine. What sort of rendering are you interested in? I could give you a rough idea of what to expect if you let me know. What machine you currently using? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everybody, I'm looking to pick up a macbook pro in the not too distant future and was hoping to get some feedback as to how the new machines are performing, and any config suggestions. I'm looking at the 15 2.4Ghz 200GB with 4 MB of ram. Any help would be appreciated... I'll be taking a trip down to the Mac store sometime soon... Questions: How is rendering time on these machines? Is there a large difference between the 2.4 Ghz and 2.5 Ghz models? What are the pros cons with the glossy display? Cheers, Ron Watson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Thanks Steve David, I'm currently using a g4 12 Mac pro laptop, I forgot the actually name... and a g4 iBook. I'll be cutting high motion video, not HD yet, perhaps in the future, but HIGH motion. I'm looking to create some instructional DVDs and bump up the quality of our online show presence. I'm looking at Final Cut Studio as well. I'm really wondering about the graphics cards, the 256MB v the 512MB. Yeah, and it is GB ram... sorry... showing my age, I guess... Cheers, Ron Watson On Apr 11, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: Ive got the previous generation macbook pro 2.4ghz. From what Ive read, the new ones are better for battery life heat, but not necessarily performance. (Less L2 cache on the CPU could be the reason for that). I dont think you'll see a noticable difference in performance between the 2.4 and 2.5ghz models, rendering should be a fraction quicker but we arent talking about a lot really. You'll probably be able to get more RAM cheaper if you dont get it from Apple, but would need to fit it double-check that (eg if Apple supply it with 2 x 1GB sticks and you have to replace both, it may not work out much cheaper, dunno what prices are like in the US or whether it ships with 2 x 1gb or 1 x 2gb.) Glossy screen gives colours and contrast that some prefer, with the downside being how much it reflects the user environment, which some hate. Opinion is really divided over this, seeing for yourself in store is all I can advise. I chickened out of glossy and stuck with matte when I got mine. What sort of rendering are you interested in? I could give you a rough idea of what to expect if you let me know. What machine you currently using? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everybody, I'm looking to pick up a macbook pro in the not too distant future and was hoping to get some feedback as to how the new machines are performing, and any config suggestions. I'm looking at the 15 2.4Ghz 200GB with 4 MB of ram. Any help would be appreciated... I'll be taking a trip down to the Mac store sometime soon... Questions: How is rendering time on these machines? Is there a large difference between the 2.4 Ghz and 2.5 Ghz models? What are the pros cons with the glossy display? Cheers, Ron Watson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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love it bah! long live the glorious PC and Windows down with the evil cult of Mac, did you know that it's all those mac people who are creating all the computer viris's? And they are also responable for global warming, and they snore alot and have bad breath! Man.I really wish I had bought a mac, go for it! Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Macbook Pro and I love it (love it love it). It's the first mac I've ever owned, so I can't really compare it to others for you but I can tell you how mine has performed... I have the 2.4 GHz (Intel Core 2 Duo) with 2 GB of RAM (I assume you meant to say yours would have 4GB no MB) Mine preforms very well. Last night I exporting a 5minute 480x270 multi-pass H.264 mp4 at 600kb with 192kbps stereo sound ... while I didn't actually time it I can remember / guess at this much: * it initially said it was going to take 20some minutes but didn't actually take nearly that long * It probably took 7-10 minutes? (I'm a pretty bad guesser of such things but ...) * It wasn't long enough that I even bothered walking away from the computer. Sometimes when I have a more complex edit with lots of filters in FCE, the real time rendering isn't great, but hitting option-r does a very quick render of the timeline for you. I'm sure there will be projects where you'll want/need go off to do something else while it exports ... but I've still always felt that my lil' macbook pro's export times fall well within expected and reasonable time frames. I have the glossy screen, and I really like it, but the glossy/matte issue seems to be kinda like arguing religion ... I'm not sure there really is a right answer. It's probably more about which looks better to your eye. well I dunno if any of that is helpful, but I use my Macbook Pro for all my editing/exporting now and I've not had any regrets. - Dave On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everybody, I'm looking to pick up a macbook pro in the not too distant future and was hoping to get some feedback as to how the new machines are performing, and any config suggestions. I'm looking at the 15 2.4Ghz 200GB with 4 MB of ram. Any help would be appreciated... I'll be taking a trip down to the Mac store sometime soon... Questions: How is rendering time on these machines? Is there a large difference between the 2.4 Ghz and 2.5 Ghz models? What are the pros cons with the glossy display? Cheers, Ron Watson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
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I have a 2 yr old 2GHz, 2GB ram, 128MB video card, first revision MBP and I use it every day for editing HD video. I love it. I would love to have a new MacPro but I don't want to sacrifice portability and I can't afford one as a second machine. I'll probably keep this one another year and wait for the next generation of processors - http://www.macrumors.com/2008/03/19/intel-outlines-next-generation-processors-nehalem-due-in-late-2008/ - Verdi On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: love it bah! long live the glorious PC and Windows down with the evil cult of Mac, did you know that it's all those mac people who are creating all the computer viris's? And they are also responable for global warming, and they snore alot and have bad breath! Man.I really wish I had bought a mac, go for it! Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Macbook Pro and I love it (love it love it). It's the first mac I've ever owned, so I can't really compare it to others for you but I can tell you how mine has performed... I have the 2.4 GHz (Intel Core 2 Duo) with 2 GB of RAM (I assume you meant to say yours would have 4GB no MB) Mine preforms very well. Last night I exporting a 5minute 480x270 multi-pass H.264 mp4 at 600kb with 192kbps stereo sound ... while I didn't actually time it I can remember / guess at this much: * it initially said it was going to take 20some minutes but didn't actually take nearly that long * It probably took 7-10 minutes? (I'm a pretty bad guesser of such things but ...) * It wasn't long enough that I even bothered walking away from the computer. Sometimes when I have a more complex edit with lots of filters in FCE, the real time rendering isn't great, but hitting option-r does a very quick render of the timeline for you. I'm sure there will be projects where you'll want/need go off to do something else while it exports ... but I've still always felt that my lil' macbook pro's export times fall well within expected and reasonable time frames. I have the glossy screen, and I really like it, but the glossy/matte issue seems to be kinda like arguing religion ... I'm not sure there really is a right answer. It's probably more about which looks better to your eye. well I dunno if any of that is helpful, but I use my Macbook Pro for all my editing/exporting now and I've not had any regrets. - Dave On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everybody, I'm looking to pick up a macbook pro in the not too distant future and was hoping to get some feedback as to how the new machines are performing, and any config suggestions. I'm looking at the 15 2.4Ghz 200GB with 4 MB of ram. Any help would be appreciated... I'll be taking a trip down to the Mac store sometime soon... Questions: How is rendering time on these machines? Is there a large difference between the 2.4 Ghz and 2.5 Ghz models? What are the pros cons with the glossy display? Cheers, Ron Watson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://graymattergravy.com http://reportsfromthefuture.com http://michaelverdi.com
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Ahh theres such a lovely performance boost between the G4 and these Intel Dualcore CPU's so you should be pleased with how the new machine performs :) I dont think the extra graphics RAM will do much for you, would give slightly better performance in a few things, eg Apple Motion, but better CPU, more machine RAM and faster hard disks would probably give you more bang per buck. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Steve David, I'm currently using a g4 12 Mac pro laptop, I forgot the actually name... and a g4 iBook. I'll be cutting high motion video, not HD yet, perhaps in the future, but HIGH motion. I'm looking to create some instructional DVDs and bump up the quality of our online show presence. I'm looking at Final Cut Studio as well. I'm really wondering about the graphics cards, the 256MB v the 512MB. Yeah, and it is GB ram... sorry... showing my age, I guess... Cheers, Ron Watson
