RE: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
So the Hand-picked list is actually in a box that presents two types of videos for you. It's changed a little bit since this screenshot was taken. By default the presentation is of Hand Picked videos, which are picked by our editor. They're not necessarily related at all to what you're watching now. I suppose there is a little bit of father knows best here, but the basic motivation is this: We've found that when people click on our human-driven suggestions they spend between 10x and 20x as much time on the site watching videos than people who click on videos from other sources and recommendations (like popularity). The second option in that box used to be Related (and it may be again, we're test driving a number of methods for driving that). It's now Random -- a random assortment of episodes from regularly updated, high quality shows. In the future I do believe we'll be presenting Related videos on this page. The related videos will probably be driven by a collaborative filtering system. Right now we're evaluating four different CF systems. These systems work by providing recommendations on two planes: videos that are subject-matter similar to the video you're watching now and videos that are similar to videos you've expressed interest in before (based on a number of criteria like how long you watched videos, which videos you watched more than others, how you responded to them by commenting or rating, et cetera). -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of michael_aivaliotis Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:11 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kary Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the YouTube comparison, maybe he means in basic layout. Comments under video and a sidebar with other videos, etc. I'd say in terms design and ease of use, however, YouTube is to MySpace what blip is to Facebook. Yes, I was comparing the layout and content areas. I didn't mean it as a criticism or a compliment, just an observation. The Hand Picked list is a bit questionable because it states: related in the top right corner. This implies a father knows best attitude that I don't agree with. Related based on what criteria? Keyword matches? When you include a human editor in the mix it gets weird. Not sure how you can find the staff and resources to do this, but hey. It would be really cool if we could list *our* hand picked items, or at least narrow the results down to specific providers. In any case, I can understand why you need to get people to explore other content so I agree with the concept but not sure about the implementation. In general, I like the overall layout. PS. The URL link to the screenshot was no big revelation. It was already announced by Blip.tv themselves on their blog. I was just letting the group know since I thought they would like to comment. Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
Check this out, http://uploads.blip.tv/ Takes you straight to the upload form. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:37 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: now it takes me anywhere form 2 to 30 mins just to get to the upload page. hey Randy, you can always go directly to the upload page. it's url is http://blip.tv/file/post/ it will ask you to sign in if needed, but that's the fastest thing you can do no matter what is on the front page it would be nice if this page had an easy to remember alias like blip.tv/upload markus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
Thank you for changing it. I really appreciate it! In what direction does Blip plan to take this interface now? I will share with you what I would like to see Blip offer instead wasting time on this silly interface project that doesn't need any changing. Why doesn't Blip work on offering free automatic format conversion from WMV to Quicktime, Quicktime iPod just like you currently do with Flash? Gerry T The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry you don't like it Gerry! We're changing it because we think we can make it work much better than it does now. Anything in particular you don't like about the new design? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry tejeda Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:23 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview I hate it The suggested interface adds no real value to the current interface that Blip is using. Why is Blip focusing on changing what already works?? Gerry T The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a screenshot of our new episode page, which is coming out soon. Do you like it? Not like it? I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the comparison to YouTube, but hey... Yours, Mike blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2183887280size=l Can anyone say YouTube? where did you get that screenshot? what URL? jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the future I do believe we'll be presenting Related videos on this page. The related videos will probably be driven by a collaborative filtering system. Right now we're evaluating four different CF systems. These systems work by providing recommendations on two planes: videos that are subject-matter similar to the video you're watching now and videos that are similar to videos you've expressed interest in before (based on a number of criteria like how long you watched videos, which videos you watched more than others, how you responded to them by commenting or rating, et cetera). Check this out. I was on YouTube the other day and I favorited a Japanese hip hop video. A little latter I went back to watch it again and I noticed four of my favorites and one of my own videos in the related videos box of the music video. These videos had nothing to do with the music video. I thought, wow, my favorites are controlling the related videos! But the next day I went back again and the related videos were all of the Japanese band. So somehow they filtered out. YouTube is genius at finding and promoting viral videos. It's going to be hard to beat them at that game. I rarely ever watch videos on the blip show pages. And it's not because of the layout. It's because the serious content creators who use your site tend to set up their own sites and organize their content that way. But I like what blip is doing with Five Head. I think that's the right direction. A TV channel with a chat room right there. People want to be exposed to new content but they're lazy about it. They don't want to swim through a river of shit to get there. But if someone was operating a ferry, they might take that ride. Especially if they can yell this is SHIT! at the operator. -John, totalvom.com
[videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
This is a screenshot of our new episode page, which is coming out soon. Do you like it? Not like it? I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the comparison to YouTube, but hey... Yours, Mike blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2183887280size=l Can anyone say YouTube? where did you get that screenshot? what URL? jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
I like it. You've managed to get a lot of information and functionality on a page that is still clean and not overwhelming to the user. Questions I have are: -To the left of the title MD011 - Surf Lesson is what appears to be a link Back To:. If I'm on the episode page, what does it go back to? -The thumbnails to the right of the video are other episodes for Mahalo Daily? -The thumbnails below that are Hand Picked. Does that mean the show owner can choose which videos show up in that box? Or does Hand Picked mean featured by the blip staff? I wouldn't mind a more obvious embed option though I'm curious to see what else is in the drop down boxes under Do Something. I'm looking forward to the release coming out. My thoughts and questions are just based on the screenshot so they could change. As far as the YouTube comparison, maybe he means in basic layout. Comments under video and a sidebar with other videos, etc. I'd say in terms design and ease of use, however, YouTube is to MySpace what blip is to Facebook. -- Kary Rogers http://www.GoodCommitment.tv On Jan 16, 2008 8:49 AM, mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a screenshot of our new episode page, which is coming out soon. Do you like it? Not like it? I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the comparison to YouTube, but hey... Yours, Mike blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2183887280size=l Can anyone say YouTube? where did you get that screenshot? what URL? jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
Thanks for the kind words, Kary! We always love the youtube:myspace as blip:facebook comparison :) In terms of your questions: * The Back To won't appear unless you end up watching another video in the Show Player. The Show Player is capable of showing you the next episode right there in the same page, and you can also click into the Guide and watch some other show without navigating to another Web page. If you do this the Back To button will appear so that you can get your bearings and return to the episode that belongs in the page. * The thumbnails directly to the right of the video are the episodes of the show you're watching. If you're watching an episode of Mahalo Daily, those will be Mahalo Daily thumbs. They're the wrapping episodes -- meaning the episodes directly prior to and directly after the episode you're watching, just like on Flickr. You can navigate through all of the show's episodes in that widget. * The Hand Picked thumbnails are all handpicked by blip staff. The basic idea is that we'll be offering a level of human editorial guidance to users. We've found so far that this is an extremely effective way of keeping people engaged and watching video. So far it seems to be more effective than any other method. When we add these Hand Picked episodes to episode pages we're anticipating a really big boost for the featured episodes. * The Do Something dropdown is designed to be a way to elegantly present the huge number of things you can do with the episode or the show. The default position of the dropdown is Embed with the Show Player. You can also Subscribe with iTunes and Subscribe with Miro, Share with E-mail, et cetera. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kary Rogers Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:31 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview I like it. You've managed to get a lot of information and functionality on a page that is still clean and not overwhelming to the user. Questions I have are: -To the left of the title MD011 - Surf Lesson is what appears to be a link Back To:. If I'm on the episode page, what does it go back to? -The thumbnails to the right of the video are other episodes for Mahalo Daily? -The thumbnails below that are Hand Picked. Does that mean the show owner can choose which videos show up in that box? Or does Hand Picked mean featured by the blip staff? I wouldn't mind a more obvious embed option though I'm curious to see what else is in the drop down boxes under Do Something. I'm looking forward to the release coming out. My thoughts and questions are just based on the screenshot so they could change. As far as the YouTube comparison, maybe he means in basic layout. Comments under video and a sidebar with other videos, etc. I'd say in terms design and ease of use, however, YouTube is to MySpace what blip is to Facebook. -- Kary Rogers http://www.GoodCommitment.tv On Jan 16, 2008 8:49 AM, mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a screenshot of our new episode page, which is coming out soon. Do you like it? Not like it? I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the comparison to YouTube, but hey... Yours, Mike blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2183887280size=l Can anyone say YouTube? where did you get that screenshot? what URL? jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
I hate it The suggested interface adds no real value to the current interface that Blip is using. Why is Blip focusing on changing what already works?? Gerry T The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a screenshot of our new episode page, which is coming out soon. Do you like it? Not like it? I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the comparison to YouTube, but hey... Yours, Mike blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2183887280size=l Can anyone say YouTube? where did you get that screenshot? what URL? jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
I'm sorry you don't like it Gerry! We're changing it because we think we can make it work much better than it does now. Anything in particular you don't like about the new design? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry tejeda Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:23 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview I hate it The suggested interface adds no real value to the current interface that Blip is using. Why is Blip focusing on changing what already works?? Gerry T The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a screenshot of our new episode page, which is coming out soon. Do you like it? Not like it? I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the comparison to YouTube, but hey... Yours, Mike blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2183887280size=l Can anyone say YouTube? where did you get that screenshot? what URL? jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
ill tell you what i dont like aubot the show player on the front page, before when it was just a static page it took me just moments to upload my video then you guys had to ad that uber friggen player, now it takes me anywhere form 2 to 30 mins just to get to the upload page. i think i could get better time uploading my video if you take the palyer off the front page becuse i get sucked into watching alot of videos that i ddint even know that was out threre. my time is a presses thing, and watching a bunch of video is so destracting. i hope this helps randy On Jan 16, 2008 4:47 PM, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry you don't like it Gerry! We're changing it because we think we can make it work much better than it does now. Anything in particular you don't like about the new design? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gerry tejeda Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:23 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview I hate it The suggested interface adds no real value to the current interface that Blip is using. Why is Blip focusing on changing what already works?? Gerry T The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike%40blip.tv wrote: This is a screenshot of our new episode page, which is coming out soon. Do you like it? Not like it? I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the comparison to YouTube, but hey... Yours, Mike blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2183887280size=l Can anyone say YouTube? where did you get that screenshot? what URL? jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:37 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: now it takes me anywhere form 2 to 30 mins just to get to the upload page. hey Randy, you can always go directly to the upload page. it's url is http://blip.tv/file/post/ it will ask you to sign in if needed, but that's the fastest thing you can do no matter what is on the front page it would be nice if this page had an easy to remember alias like blip.tv/upload markus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
Hah! Sorry about that. thing is that we want people to watch more video, so, uhhh, I'm not sure if we're going to change this :)) -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RANDY MANN Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:38 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview ill tell you what i dont like aubot the show player on the front page, before when it was just a static page it took me just moments to upload my video then you guys had to ad that uber friggen player, now it takes me anywhere form 2 to 30 mins just to get to the upload page. i think i could get better time uploading my video if you take the palyer off the front page becuse i get sucked into watching alot of videos that i ddint even know that was out threre. my time is a presses thing, and watching a bunch of video is so destracting. i hope this helps randy On Jan 16, 2008 4:47 PM, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry you don't like it Gerry! We're changing it because we think we can make it work much better than it does now. Anything in particular you don't like about the new design? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gerry tejeda Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:23 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview I hate it The suggested interface adds no real value to the current interface that Blip is using. Why is Blip focusing on changing what already works?? Gerry T The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike%40blip.tv wrote: This is a screenshot of our new episode page, which is coming out soon. Do you like it? Not like it? I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the comparison to YouTube, but hey... Yours, Mike blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2183887280size=l Can anyone say YouTube? where did you get that screenshot? what URL? jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
Good point about something easy to remember like /upload. We'll see what we can do! :) -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Sandy Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:53 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:37 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: now it takes me anywhere form 2 to 30 mins just to get to the upload page. hey Randy, you can always go directly to the upload page. it's url is http://blip.tv/file/post/ it will ask you to sign in if needed, but that's the fastest thing you can do no matter what is on the front page it would be nice if this page had an easy to remember alias like blip.tv/upload markus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
I'm not sure if you're serious or joking here. I, like Blip.tv, also want people to watch more videos, especially mine. Dude, bookmark your upload page. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then you guys had to ad that uber friggen player, now it takes me anywhere form 2 to 30 mins just to get to the upload page. i think i could get better time uploading my video if you take the palyer off the front page becuse i get sucked into watching alot of videos that i ddint even know that was out threre.
[videoblogging] Re: New BlipTV show page preview
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kary Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the YouTube comparison, maybe he means in basic layout. Comments under video and a sidebar with other videos, etc. I'd say in terms design and ease of use, however, YouTube is to MySpace what blip is to Facebook. Yes, I was comparing the layout and content areas. I didn't mean it as a criticism or a compliment, just an observation. The Hand Picked list is a bit questionable because it states: related in the top right corner. This implies a father knows best attitude that I don't agree with. Related based on what criteria? Keyword matches? When you include a human editor in the mix it gets weird. Not sure how you can find the staff and resources to do this, but hey. It would be really cool if we could list *our* hand picked items, or at least narrow the results down to specific providers. In any case, I can understand why you need to get people to explore other content so I agree with the concept but not sure about the implementation. In general, I like the overall layout. PS. The URL link to the screenshot was no big revelation. It was already announced by Blip.tv themselves on their blog. I was just letting the group know since I thought they would like to comment.
