Re: [videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
I aappreciate lize the idealistic aspects of it, but when it's this hard to use, I wonder how far it's really going towards its goal of making video distribution easy enough for everybody, including non-techies. The site needs a good usability review by someone not close to the project - clearly, something has been missed. I have a suspicion that the bug I found may lie in the fact that I selected copyright instead of CC, an option that no normal Ourmedia user has ever selected! grin Nope. OM would not kick back a video because you chose to put a traditional copyright on it. Just to be clear for people who didn't get the joke. Also, OurMedia was set up rather quicklyand then has been running since then. Its certainly isn't perfect. those of us involved know more bugs than you can imagine. Amazingly to me, we still get plenty of media sent through the system. The good news is that we are quietly working on a redesign. The original purpose was to provide people with free space to host their media. but now there are more and more free hosting services around. Now its more about teaching people about storytelling...and connecting them with original media they wouldn't find otherwise. I don't find VideoBomb-like sites useful because it pushes up video that is already popular. mainly commercials. Deirdre's suggestions are spot on. we need OM to be easier and clearer. All hail the volunteer army. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
For my test page http://www.beginningwithi.com/vlog/test.html I have now tried twice to upload my video to Ourmedia. Here was the result last time around (from an email conversation with Pete P): Okay, tried again, and this time it's looking more promising. I see on the screen:Congratulations! This file has been sent to Ourmedia and the Internet Archive for free hosting and storage. Please be patient -- it should appear soon at this media page: http://www.ourmedia.org/node/ When I go to that page, though, although I know it's too early for my video to show up, what I seem to be looking at is an Ourmedia blog, last updated Feb 9th. This isn't very reassuring that my video is going to the right place. ?? Umm, but, wait a minute... I only clicked preview. So why did I get that file has been sent message?So when I clicked Submit instead, I got a blank page, and there's no sign that my video has actually been received. Nor is there any error message to let me know what, if anything, went wrong. Is it still true that I also need to register at IA? Probably I did that many moons ago when I first registered on Ourmedia, but I don't remember whether I did, and I have no way of knowing except to go back and try to figure out what username-password combo I might have used back then. And I thought that limitation was supposed to be fixed long ago? In the interests of fairness I'd love to get a clip hosted by Ourmedia onto that page, but for the moment I stand defeated in my attempts.-- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
On 2/24/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations! This file has been sent to Ourmedia and the Internet Archive for free hosting and storage. Please be patient -- it should appear soon at this media page: http://www.ourmedia.org/node/ I got this also for the last of a few files I uploaded last night. seems to get busy around this time in the evening. check it in about 10mins and it'll probably be ok. at least mine was ok a few mins later. I used to get lots of messages like that but last night was the first one in ages. so it looks like most of the earlier problems were sorted. Is it still true that I also need to register at IA? Probably I did that many moons ago when I first registered on Ourmedia, but I don't remember whether I did, and I have no way of knowing except to go back and try to figure out what username-password combo I might have used back then. And I thought that limitation was supposed to be fixed long ago? I'm not sure. I think I signed up last year, can't remember. whenever it was I did have to enter my IA account and it seems to use it because when I login to IA directly the files are all there on my account. so not sure if they've removed the requirement and merged the logins. I only ever login to ourmedia though not IA at ourmedia (I think it saved my IA settings). so not much help for you. perhaps check your profile and see if your IA account login is still there. Kath-- http://www.aliak.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
On 2/24/06, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/24/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations! This file has been sent to Ourmedia and the Internet Archive for free hosting and storage. Please be patient -- it should appear soon at this media page: http://www.ourmedia.org/node/ I got this also for the last of a few files I uploaded last night. seems to get busy around this time in the evening. check it in about 10mins and it'll probably be ok. at least mine was ok a few mins later. I used to get lots of messages like that but last night was the first one in ages. so it looks like most of the earlier problems were sorted. But then you have to fill in the page about the video all over again, don't you? Uh, not to be rude, but why do you put up with that kind of performance? Why does anyone? There are lots of other free services out there that work a lot better I tried again for the fourth time, and again, after much loading, got to a perfectly blank page with the URL http://www.ourmedia.org/add/videoI am willing to make ONE more try if someone from Ourmedia will get in touch and tell me what the hell is going on. Even the bug report page needs some serious usability help. I filled it in and submitted, and got no confirmation message - the page just reset to what it had been before, so I have no indication that my message actually went anywhere, let alone when or whether I might expect a response to it. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
On 2/24/06, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/24/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Is it still true that I also need to register at IA? Probably I did that many moons ago when I first registered on Ourmedia, but I don't remember whether I did, and I have no way of knowing except to go back and try to figure out what username-password combo I might have used back then. And I thought that limitation was supposed to be fixed long ago? I'm not sure. I think I signed up last year, can't remember. whenever it was I did have to enter my IA account and it seems to use it because when I login to IA directly the files are all there on my account. so not sure if they've removed the requirement and merged the logins. I only ever login to ourmedia though not IA at ourmedia (I think it saved my IA settings). so not much help for you. perhaps check your profile and see if your IA account login is still there. You still have to register at the archive and then sign into Ourmedia with the email address and password you used at the archive. You only have to go to the archive once. Every time after that you can just log into Ourmedia. -- Me: http://michaelverdi.comRD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
On 2/24/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You still have to register at the archive and then sign into Ourmedia with the email address and password you used at the archive. You only have to go to the archive once. Every time after that you can just log into Ourmedia. Thanks. So if I am able to log on to Ourmedia, ,presumably that part is all taken care of already... -- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
Deirdre Straughan wrote: But then you have to fill in the page about the video all over again, don't you? Uh, not to be rude, but why do you put up with that kind of performance? Why does anyone? There are lots of other free services out there that work a lot better Crap, I don't know what to tell you besides the fact that it works for me (and plenty of other people.) I fill out the form, submit it, and my video is uploaded and immediately available. I trust Ourmedia and am a supported of what they are doing. I can't exactly say that about the other free services out there that are commercial and may get bought, go out of business, or do some other nasty thing at some point in the future. But then, I tend to be an idealist... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
I aappreciate lize the idealistic aspects of it, but when it's this hard to use, I wonder how far it's really going towards its goal of making video distribution easy enough for everybody, including non-techies. The site needs a good usability review by someone not close to the project - clearly, something has been missed. I have a suspicion that the bug I found may lie in the fact that I selected copyright instead of CC, an option that no normal Ourmedia user has ever selected! grin On 2/24/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deirdre Straughan wrote: But then you have to fill in the page about the video all over again, don't you? Uh, not to be rude, but why do you put up with that kind of performance? Why does anyone? There are lots of other free services out there that work a lot betterCrap, I don't know what to tell you besides the fact that it works forme (and plenty of other people.) I fill out the form, submit it, and myvideo is uploaded and immediately available. I trust Ourmedia and am a supported of what they are doing. I can't exactly say that about theother free services out there that are commercial and may get bought, goout of business, or do some other nasty thing at some point in the future. But then, I tend to be an idealist...-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help with Ourmedia
On 2/25/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then you have to fill in the page about the video all over again, don't you? Uh, not to be rude, but why do you put up with that kind of performance? Why does anyone? There are lots of other free services out there that work a lot better not really. I'm using the upload tool for windows. for some reason it doesn't upload the tags or copyright settings and a couple of other optional settings, so I need to edit them on the page once it's finished uploading and I have the final page url. but I just thought that was the tool being a little buggy. I usually end up editing something anyway once I see the published page even if this bug is not there, just to tidy up how it looks so it's not a problem for me. when I've used the link on the site to upload it seems ok (but haven't done that in a while so can't really say, but I can't recall any problems). I'm using ourmedia for a couple of reasons. 1. because I really like the IA project. originally I was just uploading direct to IA when in the early days I found ourmedia to be a touch unreliable. but I started using ourmedia again late last year and it's worked ok since apart from a few little things but they don't really bother me. I can get round them. and I like the interface ourmedia provides for listing all my files on the one page. IA does this also - but only if I search so it groups them (perhaps I do have a homepage there but I've never found it ;) so this is easier for linking to the work to tell people where they can find it in one spot. 2. because I think IA will be around longer than most of the other free uploading spaces atm. and apart from a few test personal videos most of my content is archival/documentation of arts/muisc events or projects so I don't want to have to reupload them all again in 5 years. I want them to be available for the artists for the longer term. plus now I travel a lot for my job so can't carry so many archive hard drives - a few dvds is the limit. so I've been slowly uploading things so I can still access them from anywhere without having to have the source material near me all the time. I archive net radio programs and since last year when I got the camera, video. I did a couple of photos but use flickr for that since it became available. I think the IA/ourmedia combination is great for artists wanting to archive their projects. I'd like to see more do it. ( conferences/workshops) 3. because I like drupal sites as I have a few myself so I like to use them and see what features/user scenarios other drupal sites use as I really like the drupal cms and the hard work all the people who work on it. and since they did the deal with IA it ties in perfectly. 4. the selfish/promotional reason - by using ourmedia it gives the work an extra method of being found/discovered by new people who may not have seen the performance or heard of the artist or listened to the show. so people can now come across it via the emails, ourmedia, IA, my site, the artists site, the curator's site. another audience possibility I guess you could say. I suppose I could add another layer and add to some other free sites, but I'd need more time for that. perhaps one day.Kath-- http://www.aliak.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
