Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-11 Thread Andreas Haugstrup



On Thu, 11 May 2006 17:30:14 +0200, Daryl Watson 
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 Wtf? So this group is actually a 'tech group'. So Adam do you think posts
 about content, aesthetics, politics, are off-topic and are out of place 
 on
 this list?

While Adam is plugging his ears: You are taking the argument too far. 
Posts about content and aestetics are most welcome. Posts about politics 
are welcome as long as they relate to videoblogging.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-11 Thread Deirdre Straughan



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And on another note, the acting profession is the only one where it is acceptable to specify a specific gender, age, and yes, even attractiveness level. For all other positions, it is illegal here in Canada, and looks like the US too. 
http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html

Hotties for everyone.Not in Italy. Here it's both legal and accepted for a job announcement to specify gender, age (young, so they can pay you less) and bella presenza.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-11 Thread Josh Leo



yeah yeah... I may not have started the thread, but started the explosion i guessOn 5/11/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:You started this thread? How's casting going?Bill Streeter
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 I have a knack for starting these explosive threads I guess. Firstit was Veoh, now the sexism debate... I think I might tackle thewhole show vs personal debate next month!
 On 5/11/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I suspect it's going to play out both ways as citizen videocontinues to  grow. 
  1. Yes, the medium will be invaded by the usual pretty peoplebecause all  humans are lookist - part of that is genetic and will never beentirely  eradicated, part of it is culture - so there's some hope.
   2. However, because we can self-publish, Just Plain Folks canalso put  themselves in front of the camera and some of them will have ahook that  draws us in and we'll watch them even if they aren't pretty. I
hope that as  a result we'll all subconsciously get used to the idea that youdon't have  to be gorgeous to be worth watching, and lookism will tone downin the  general culture. After all, we already watch lots of famous
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Josh Leo



I am curious to know your logic behind this whole woman thing though... I know it was brought up in another thread, but it never got answered. What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?is it sex appeal?
why not someone with knowledge of golf?why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence?On 5/10/06, MN 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Looking for someone a wee bit less vivacious, Heath. Thanks, though.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Andreas Haugstrup



On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:11:54 +0200, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?

 is it sex appeal?
 why not someone with knowledge of golf?
 why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence?

Boobs trumphs golf.

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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Monique Danielle




Boobs trumphs golf.

Funny LOL

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Michael Verdi



Comon you guys, quit being so coy. You know why they want a vivacious, hot, attractive woman. There are plenty of examples of how this model works. It's a TV thing that's spreading to videoblogging. It's all about reaching that target demographic.
-VerdiOn 5/10/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I am curious to know your logic behind this whole woman thing though... I know it was brought up in another thread, but it never got answered. What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?is it sex appeal?
why not someone with knowledge of golf?why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Josh Leo



Fight the boob marketing!On 5/10/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing I've learned about working at an organization where most menare over 40... they love being in the company of a young woman.Mybet is that this video-podcast will cater to middle age men... so Ican understand their marketing strategy for looking for a young
attractive woman.Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination eventually?Caseyhttp://www.galacticast.com/--- In 
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   is it sex appeal?  why not someone with knowledge of golf?  why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence? Boobs trumphs golf.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Daniel



Who's to say women don't have golf knowledge? :)

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 On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:11:54 +0200, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?
 
  is it sex appeal?
  why not someone with knowledge of golf?
  why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Josh Leo



yeah sorry i made it sound that way... let's rephrase why not knowledge of golf a requirementOn 5/10/06, Chris Daniel 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Ron Watson


Josh, you say fight the boob, I say embrace the boob. Boob marketing is a fact of life. If I were running a golf show, a hot young lady might be a necessity. I don't know how many of you golf, but I have been on several occasions, and one of the highlights of the day is 4 guys chatting up the beer cart girl. Now, I'm not sure if it's the beer or the girl, but if I were running a golf show, you can bet I would be looking for an attractive host. I would be racking my brain to figure out how to deliver streaming beer over a T1.Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On May 10, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Josh Leo wrote: Fight the boob marketing!On 5/10/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I've learned about working at an organization where most menare over 40... they love being in the company of a young woman.  Mybet is that this video-podcast will cater to middle age men... so Ican understand their marketing strategy for looking for a young attractive woman.Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination eventually?Caseyhttp://www.galacticast.com/--- In  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:11:54 +0200, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?is it sex appeal?  why not someone with knowledge of golf?  why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence? Boobs trumphs golf.  -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/  Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.  Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free.  See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com  SPONSORED LINKS  Fireant  Individual  Use  Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Josh Leo



Let's rephrase the original proposal for what it is:Can anyone out there help me with this? ... We are looking to hire aan object that is sexually arousing to our main demographic to host our show avout golf. What would be the most effective way to spread the word about this opportunity to continue to treat women as objects, use their bodies as marketing tools, and perpetuate this practice in new forms of media? Or do you know anyone who might be interested in selling their good looks for financial gain?
Thanks,On 5/10/06, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Josh, you say fight the boob, I say embrace the boob.Boob marketing is a fact of life.If I were running a golf show, a hot young lady might be a necessity. I don't know how many of you golf, but I have been on several occasions, and one of the highlights of the day is 4 guys chatting up the beer cart girl.
Now, I'm not sure if it's the beer or the girl, but if I were running a golf show, you can bet I would be looking for an attractive host. I would be racking my brain to figure out how to deliver streaming beer over a T1.
Ron Watson

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.com
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http://k9disc.blip.tv On May 10, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Josh Leo wrote:
 Fight the boob marketing!
On 5/10/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One thing I've learned about working at an organization where most menare over 40... they love being in the company of a young woman.Mybet is that this video-podcast will cater to middle age men... so Ican understand their marketing strategy for looking for a young 
attractive woman.Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination eventually?Casey
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  why not someone with knowledge of golf?  why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence? Boobs trumphs golf.  -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Brad Webb



Streaming Beer.. Beercasting if you will.. starting RD now. C'mere, Mr 
Corona.

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*snip*

 Now, I'm not sure if it's the beer or the girl, but if I were running 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Andreas Haugstrup



On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:27:23 +0200, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination eventually?

The boob is a metonym. :o)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Charles HOPE






Speak for yourself.

Andreas Haugstrup wrote:

  
The boob is a metonym. :o)

  






  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

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Ron Watson wrote:
Josh, you say fight the boob, I say embrace the boob.
  
  
  
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necessity. I don't know how many of you golf, but I have been on
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Josh Leo



ok then, well I will keep my ideas/opinions to myself and saycheck out craigslist, that is what Andrew of Rocketboom did and it seems to have worked for him!On 5/10/06, 
LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Josh, this is a little unfair.Sian has a marketing plan for his siteand simply asked for help finding a video podcast hostess.Rather than being freindly and helpful, many users would rather flame
his business plan.That is not very communal.Adam Quirk was the only one who provided a helpful response byproviding the following sites.http://mandy.com/
http://onemodelplace.com/http://craigslist.comWhy try to make this into some big women as objects argument?It is his site and he knows what he wants.Making Sian look like some
sexist person trying to exploit women is rude.I highly doubt anything said about women in advertising will changethe fact that women sell to more people than men.-Matt--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's rephrase the original proposal for what it is: Can anyone out there help me with this? ... We are looking to hire a
 an object that is sexually arousing to our main demographic to hostour show avout golf. What would be the most effective way to spread the wordabout this opportunity to continue to treat women as objects, use their
bodies as marketing tools, and perpetuate this practice in new forms of media?Or do you know anyone who might be interested in selling their good looks for financial gain? Thanks,
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Charles HOPE






I'd rather hear your opinions even if they aren't "communal".


Josh Leo wrote:
ok then, well I will keep my ideas/opinions to myself and
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Adam Quirk



On 5/10/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why try to make this into some big women as objects argument?
Because humans as a race are generally very bitter beings and enjoy harrassing the hell out of the ones whose ideas they don't agree with. 
And yeah, please by all means voice your opinion, but keep the flames away from the fresh meat.This group consistently brings Douglas Adams quotes to my mind:You live and learn. At any rate, you live.
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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Robyn Tippins



I have rather enjoyed this thread. I'm a woman and haven't felt objectified
in the least. Well, maybe a little, but it's all in fun.

I hope you have luck finding a hottie for your golfcast. 

Robyn Tippins
sleepyblogger.com

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Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

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 Because humans as a race are generally very bitter beings and enjoy
 harrassing the hell out of the ones whose ideas they don't agree with.

I guess we all have a little troll in us. - Matt






 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Michael Verdi



One of my favorite videoshttp://ryanedit.blogspot.com/2005/06/to-prove-point.html-Verdi-- Author of the book Secrets Of Videoblogging
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Devlon



For what it's worth, since this thread has totally gone awry anyway...I don't think it's boobs that are the offensive thing here. I am a big fan of boobs myselfand all them other parts.It's the we've got a show that needs a face, or something in front of it...talkingI know, let's get a hottie...as some have mentioned, that's their prerogative, if that's what they want, I guess that's what they want. 
I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this new media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional media and we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex, whatever.
Personally, it would be great to watch a vodcast, episodic style videoblog that didn't have the trophy hottie...if for no other reason than to prove to some women that we do actually watch for the content. 
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination 
eventually?
 

Yes they do, when they die. Except for Josh Leo who apparently finds 
them offensive.

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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Monique Danielle





I have 
to add one thing. I am a woman. I consider myself a feminist. But Istill 
think that thisthread istoo funny. 

Men 
are very simple creatures - it's a fact of life. I interact with lots of 
high level execs. And let me tell you weather a guy is 14 or 67, blue collar or 
highly educated, he's got a soft spot for pretty women.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Charles HOPE






Naturally, there are business decisions that work but are unethical. 

Why are you generalizing our culture's devaluation of masculinity as a
broad human condition? The ancient Greeks, for instance...





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  It is a business decision and that is it.  Again, most
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Devlon



On 5/10/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this new
 media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional
media and
 we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex, whatever.

Pitfalls? Many shows are built with the intended goal of getting a
large viewership. Of course, or they wouldn't be putting the effort into creating it. The effort of creating content that is compelling. Some take the high road, they focus on the content, not the fancy wrapping.
Are they in the wrong for using a proven method of

marketing? It is a business decision and that is it. Again, most
humans find a female more visually appealing than a male.

Don't blame traditional media... I can't find anyone else that is more responsible for it. 
people like it and it works.Yup, people love it, especially those young girls who are growing up in a world that tells them that they can't be famous, or on tv, or such things unless they are 'hot'. They love it while they loathe themselves when they look in the mirror and compare themselves to what traditional media has taught us women should look likeyeah, they love it ;)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Josh Leo



Devlon, a man after my own heartOn 5/10/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 5/10/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this new
 media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional
media and
 we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex, whatever.

Pitfalls? Many shows are built with the intended goal of getting a
large viewership. Of course, or they wouldn't be putting the effort into creating it. The effort of creating content that is compelling. Some take the high road, they focus on the content, not the fancy wrapping.

Are they in the wrong for using a proven method of

marketing? It is a business decision and that is it. Again, most
humans find a female more visually appealing than a male.


Don't blame traditional media... I can't find anyone else that is more responsible for it. 

people like it and it works.Yup, people love it, especially those young girls who are growing up in a world that tells them that they can't be famous, or on tv, or such things unless they are 'hot'. They love it while they loathe themselves when they look in the mirror and compare themselves to what traditional media has taught us women should look likeyeah, they love it ;)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Devlon



I am not debating the power of sex to sell, not debating whether women are nice to look at eitherI am not even debating whether boobs are cool or not (they are of course...I am close personal friends with a certain pair actually)
My point is that regardless of how powerful sex can be as a sales tool, as a hook...why do we need to perpetuate it? Especially in a time when we as content creators have the greatest power.Why point at stats and figures and say 'hey it works...' instead of saying 'hm...that really doesn't work, how can we do it different'?
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Wikipedia has a good page on how sexuality is considered one of the
most powerful tools of marketing and particularly advertising.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Michael Verdi



On 5/10/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this
new media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional
media and we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex,
whatever.
You know what Devlon, I'm not surprised at all. This is a subject that I've thinking and talking about for a while now. Here we have this new medium and all people want to do is copy what's come before. 
Anyway - this is what the panel I'm organizing for vloggercon will be about. Should be interesting.-Verdi





  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Devlon



On 5/10/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 5/10/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this
new media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional
media and we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex,
whatever.
You know what Devlon, I'm not surprised at all. This is a subject that I've thinking and talking about for a while now. Here we have this new medium and all people want to do is copy what's come before. 
Yeah, I guess It's because it's easy, it's proven, as Matt pointed out. Instead of coming up with creative ways to get someone's attention we slip into the 'norm' instead of blazing a trail. 
It would be great to overhear 'watercooler' talk about the latest video because of the message (remember that, the message?) or how it was presented not because of the size of the rack the prominant female had.

Anyway - this is what the panel I'm organizing for vloggercon will be about. Should be interesting.Cool, can't wait.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Devlon



On 5/10/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Devlon, a man after my own heartThanks Josh :)I for one never used to pay attention to this type of thing, I was a sheep, show me something cool and I'll dumbly watch. But after you talk to people that see through this and are aware of the social impact that this has, and start seeing the effect yourself in people you know and care about...that's when it really hits home.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Charles HOPE






Some of the tacit messages floating around are rather striking, and
would be very offensive but they are so commonly expressed.


Devlon wrote:
On 5/10/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
Devlon, a man after my own heart
  
  
Thanks Josh :)
  
I for one never used to pay attention to this type of thing, I was a
sheep, show me something cool and I'll dumbly watch. But after you
talk to people that see through this and are aware of the social impact
that this has, and start seeing the effect yourself in people you know
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Devlon



On 5/10/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Anyway - this is what the panel I'm organizing for vloggercon will
be about.
 Should be interesting.

Crazy how an simple question of where can i find a hostess turns
into an all-day discussion of sexism in media.But that's exactly where it starts Matt.

Of course no body should stop that conversation for people who want to
argue theories, but will new people ever post again after igniting
themselves on fire?I thought it was a very tame conversation. I was being very polite :) ...maybe a bit smart-assed, but that's just my way.

Most likely a person will revert to being a lurker and not subject
themselves to the heat again. Don't get me wrong, I love this group
and enjoy hearing the opinions of others. (If you haven't noticed
yet, I like to vocalize my opinions too.)

But there is a side-effect to having such an intense group. It
doesn't feel as warm and cozy as it once did.I thought it was a very good discussion, I'd hate to exclude anyone from it. I think it's an important issue that bears a ton of discussion.
People weighed in on one side, and some on the other...this is how discussion works. It would have been great to have the person that posted the question participate more. Maybe there could have been ways that we as a group could have suggested to get the viewership they want without depending on window dressing?

Maybe we can all bring matches and rocks to the Vloggercon panel so
that we can really burn and stone the people we disagree with.meh that'd just get too messy after a while. My problem wasn't with the original person that posted the question (sorry can't remember who that was) but the school of thought that the idea was coming from. That school of thought desrves all the rocks and fire it can get.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Devlon



I am starting to see that. That's why I jump up when I see the same thing seeping into videoblogging, or whatever this new thing with online video is becoming. I say, let's start from scratch, not do the same shit over again
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Some of the tacit messages floating around are rather striking, and
would be very offensive but they are so commonly expressed.


Devlon wrote:
On 5/10/06, Josh Leo 
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Thanks Josh :)
  
I for one never used to pay attention to this type of thing, I was a
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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Monique Danielle



But I wouldn't go so far as
to say that women are above being influenced in a similar way. We
are all human beings after all--who at our core are basically just
big hairless horny apes who just like to think we're pretty clever.

You guys really crack me up - I'm love this thread. It seems to me likes
it's all in good fun. I didn't think there was any flaming going on.



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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Monique Danielle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have to add one thing. I am a woman. I consider myself a
feminist. But I
 still think that this thread is too funny.

 Men are very simple creatures - it's a fact of life. I interact
with lots
 of high level execs. And let me tell you weather a guy is 14 or
67, blue
 collar or highly educated, he's got a soft spot for pretty women.

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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Monique Danielle



You guys really crack me up - I'm love this thread. It seems to me likes
it's all in good fun. I didn't think there was any flaming going on.

correction - it seems to me like I need to retake english 101 - ;)

Im the queen of typos.




-Original Message-
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But I wouldn't go so far as
to say that women are above being influenced in a similar way. We
are all human beings after all--who at our core are basically just
big hairless horny apes who just like to think we're pretty clever.

You guys really crack me up - I'm love this thread. It seems to me likes
it's all in good fun. I didn't think there was any flaming going on.



Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread john coffey



Everyone likes a pretty woman! Straights, Gay, Lesbian! www.jchtv.comCasey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  One thing I've learned about working at an organization where most menare over 40... they love being in the company of a young woman. Mybet is that this video-podcast will cater to middle age men... so Ican understand their marketing strategy for looking for a youngattractive woman.Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination eventually?Caseyhttp://www.galacticast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:11:54 +0200, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?   is it sex appeal?  why not someone with knowledge of golf?  why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence?  Boobs trumphs golf.  --  Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/  Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.http://www.jchtv.com/A vlog about craic, cocktails, travel, sailing and Philadelphia!
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Adam Quirk



I'm sorry, but Adam is unable to respond at this time. His typing fingers are being used to plug his ears while he hums and mumbles to himself and bangs his head on the floor.On 5/11/06, 
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Wtf? So this group is actually a 'tech group'. So Adam do you think posts
about content, aesthetics, politics, are off-topic and are out of place on
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 You're taking me way out of context. I was just trying to say that a tech
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 I hate having to defend myself about shit like this. Funnytheworld, eh?
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess

2006-05-10 Thread Irene Duma
Title: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess





Jumping in a bit late with my 2 cents on this subject. But it looks like well be seeing more posts for good-looking, sexy male hosts soon enough. Seems that as women are becoming more financially independent, they are going for looks more and more. 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0605070333may07,0,3666291.story?coll=chi-news-hed

And on another note, the acting profession is the only one where it is acceptable to specify a specific gender, age, and yes, even attractiveness level. For all other positions, it is illegal here in Canada, and looks like the US too. http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html

Hotties for everyone.
Irene



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Wtf? So this group is actually a 'tech group'. So Adam do you think posts
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