Re: [videoblogging] Shadow World

2009-05-16 Thread Jay dedman
 David Kessler, who makes one of my favourite videoblogs - Shadow
 World, which used to be at undertheel.blogspot.com - has been posting
 again this year.
 He shoots interviews with people who live and work under the el in
 Philadelphia - and combines them with lots of cinematography of the
 environment.
 He has a new URL - http://dskessler.com/shadowworld

I really love David's work. I cant think another web video project
that takes time to document people in a specific place with such
clarity. If there are other examples, be good to identify them. His
work is so deceptively simple...just interview someone about who they
are and what they do. Imagine people watching this in 50 years.

Jay


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Re: [videoblogging] Shadow World

2009-05-16 Thread Kath O'Donnell
these are great Rupert - thanks for the links.
I seem to recall a location project that was really cool, on
24hours24artists - Nick Slie in new orleans  the central city
i-witness project
http://www.mondobizarro.org/blog


2009/5/17 Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com


  David Kessler, who makes one of my favourite videoblogs - Shadow
  World, which used to be at undertheel.blogspot.com - has been posting
  again this year.
  He shoots interviews with people who live and work under the el in
  Philadelphia - and combines them with lots of cinematography of the
  environment.
  He has a new URL - http://dskessler.com/shadowworld

 I really love David's work. I cant think another web video project
 that takes time to document people in a specific place with such
 clarity. If there are other examples, be good to identify them. His
 work is so deceptively simple...just interview someone about who they
 are and what they do. Imagine people watching this in 50 years.

 Jay



Re: [videoblogging] Shadow World

2009-05-15 Thread ultimco...@gmail.com
Hi,

Please take note that the VlogEurope 09 will take place in Paris ( 2  
days for wokshop) and Clermont-Ferrand( 2 days for tourism) (FR) in  
november/october09

Dates and schedule coming soon

Join us to improve your french language and taste the wine


Amitiés
Loiez

Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread Jim Turner
I'll confirm what Steve has said.  I just joined the group not long ago as I
have started www.socialmediasphere.tv and wanted a place to learn more about
this crazy video world which I am falling in love with.  I am the conference
director and the social media director for Blog World and New Media Expo and
as stated we are now merged with the New Media Expo as of December and would
love to have a Vloggercon in Vegas.  Vegas is really looking to make things
awesome for visitors as the economy is really cutting into their business so
it is really affordable.  You can contact me Steve at Jim at
Blogworldexpo.com and my cell is (303)594-6276

Right now we have opened the speakers proposals and we are taking them
through May 31.  Feel free to submit anything in that regard.  I look
forward to your comments and will pass those along to our CEO who is in
Germany at the moment, but I will be in Hawaii with him and a couple of
weeks.  Yeah dirty job but someone has to do it...  I am actiually trying to
figure out a way to live stream my trip to Hawaii and have had my Twitter
followers pick my itinerary so I can video what they choose and allow them
to come along for the ride.

Please let me know if you guys have any questions.

Jim Turner
Social Media Director
Blog World and New Media Expo
(303)594-6276
@Genuine



On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Steve Garfield st...@offonatangent.comwrote:



 Hi,

 When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of
 vloggercon and if there was going to be another one.

 People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it.

 I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are interested in
 adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They would handle all the
 registration.

 Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo.

 Are people interested in this?

 Oct 15-17 Las Vegas.

 http://www.blogworldexpo.com/

 Air and hotels are cheap.

 Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to them
 about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track within thier
 conference.

 Thanks,
 --Steve

  




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Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread Rupert
I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it.   I think  
it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across  
the country/world to attend a vlogging event.

You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative  
about it.  Just being realistic about what I see as people's  
priorities and interests.

Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and  
there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but  
in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the  
registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets.

Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about  
screening lots of videos in a posh venue.  But even then most of the  
people who attended were from the West, I think.  And that was two  
years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the  
economy.

The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement  
of vlogging being so new.  I wish I'd been able to attend.

There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new  
media expo, etc.  The people who make their living from social media  
that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social  
media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog  
and make money from blogging.  But this doesn't include the majority  
of vloggers, I don't think.

And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into  
attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much  
more intimate.

What does anybody else think?  Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his  
experience of organising VlogEurope?

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv

On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote:



 Hi,

 When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of  
 vloggercon and if there was going to be another one.

 People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it.

 I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are  
 interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They  
 would handle all the registration.

 Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo.

 Are people interested in this?

 Oct 15-17 Las Vegas.

 http://www.blogworldexpo.com/

 Air and hotels are cheap.

 Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to  
 them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track  
 within thier conference.

 Thanks,
 --Steve


 



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Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Hi.

The first thing to say is how wonderful I think Steve Garfield and his
commitment to community is. He is such an asset to anyone who knows him and
any community that he is a part of. I don't know him too well, but he is
clearly one of the most valuable connectors around, and is a model for
anyone interested in creating community on the web.

Funny this should all come up...we've just finalized this year's Vlog Europe
being in Paris and Clermont-Ferrand, France this year yesterday. We'll have
dates and other things later, and you'll find more communications coming
from Raymond and Loiez than me, as I'm stepping back a bit and letting the
Europeans run their own European event now that I'm in San Francisco.

With Vlog Europe, we have/had the added benefit of very easy accessibility
to different cultures and different cities every year. And we've also been
SUPER lucky to have faithful sponsors that get that we're not trying to be a
major for-profit event like Le Web, New Media Expo or Jeff Pulver's events.
In the end, though, I think the event has survived because there's a core
committed group that really wants this to happen every year and this really
frames the event – and that the event has never completely lost momentum.
Vlog Europe (and in my opinion, Vloggercon too) has avoided the temptations
of being part of the larger tech conference/event circuit and being a
for-profit conference. Once someone starts making money out of the deal,
everything changes and, rightly or wrongly, there's some discomfort with
that and things tend to fall apart.

While the ethos of that era is highly influential to me and to many of you,
I think any attempt to force the same outcomes we had back then would result
in disappointment and possibly disaster. We've all narrowed our foci and
changed, and I think this comes out of a realization that we are just one
community in a larger, non-linear web video community that has developed.
Because of this, people who would have organized Vloggercon years ago are
knee-deep in other projects, and organizing a conference of the size and
scope that Vloggercon covered would be a massive project. Presented with the
choice of Vloggercon or teaching people to videoblog, starting advocacy
projects like the Open Video Alliance and the artist/documentarian org I am
working to create and others, many of us are choosing the latter. In short,
I think many in the community that made up the two Vloggercons are more
interested in using their influence and tenure in this community to drive
change instead of organizing a conference with more of a general purpose
than a conference with a specific purpose.

To be perfectly honest, I personally have discomfort with any for-profit
entity taking over the Vloggercon name and what those two events represent.
This is not up to me. But knowing the people that organized Vloggercon, I am
willing to bet the farm that they agree and that it is unlikely that those
who own the rights to the name will allow anyone to take it over. The
videoblogging culture that existed 2004-2006 has evolved and subgroups and
completely disassociated communites of vloggers have formed, and there's no
going back. The idea of bringing back how things felt back then is
tantalizing, but I am afraid that that's impossible at this point. I used to
feel like many of you – disappointed that Vloggercon hasn't happened again.
But seeing how things developed, I consider the Vloggercon experience to be
whole, complete and appropriate for its time.

That's not to say that another larger videoblogging event shouldn't happen
and that I wouldn't attend, as there's so many people who weren't around
when Vloggercon was happening and there's many perfectly great folks with
commercial interests that could benefit from having facetime with other
vloggers. I personally just don't think that event should be called
Vloggercon.

Just my two cents.

Jeffrey






2009/5/14 Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org



 I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think
 it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across
 the country/world to attend a vlogging event.

 You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative
 about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's
 priorities and interests.

 Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and
 there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but
 in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the
 registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets.

 Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about
 screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the
 people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two
 years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the
 economy.

 The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement
 of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend.

 There's a 

Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread Jim Turner
These are some great points Jeffrey and I am going to make sure that I voice
them to the the leadership at Blog World and New Media Expo.  To the extent
that we are replacing Vloggercon or any other I'm not sure that is our
intent.  The idea behind putting a vloggercon type event together at Blog
World is to leverage the already existing infrastructure and such.  I am not
purporting to belong to the group of vloggers, as I indicated I am just now
getting into it.  I felt I needed to get an idea of what it was before I
could approach people and sound even remotely educated in their world.

As an executive Board Member of the International Blogging and New Media
Association I am also very interested in the education and cause side of
vlogging and other ideas so feel free to give me some guidance in that
regard.  I think this scope of ideas are good to know in that respect as
well.

...and yes, I agree Steve is a RAWK star!

Jim

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi.

 The first thing to say is how wonderful I think Steve Garfield and his
 commitment to community is. He is such an asset to anyone who knows him and
 any community that he is a part of. I don't know him too well, but he is
 clearly one of the most valuable connectors around, and is a model for
 anyone interested in creating community on the web.

 Funny this should all come up...we've just finalized this year's Vlog
 Europe
 being in Paris and Clermont-Ferrand, France this year yesterday. We'll have
 dates and other things later, and you'll find more communications coming
 from Raymond and Loiez than me, as I'm stepping back a bit and letting the
 Europeans run their own European event now that I'm in San Francisco.

 With Vlog Europe, we have/had the added benefit of very easy accessibility
 to different cultures and different cities every year. And we've also been
 SUPER lucky to have faithful sponsors that get that we're not trying to be
 a
 major for-profit event like Le Web, New Media Expo or Jeff Pulver's events.
 In the end, though, I think the event has survived because there's a core
 committed group that really wants this to happen every year and this really
 frames the event – and that the event has never completely lost momentum.
 Vlog Europe (and in my opinion, Vloggercon too) has avoided the temptations
 of being part of the larger tech conference/event circuit and being a
 for-profit conference. Once someone starts making money out of the deal,
 everything changes and, rightly or wrongly, there's some discomfort with
 that and things tend to fall apart.

 While the ethos of that era is highly influential to me and to many of you,
 I think any attempt to force the same outcomes we had back then would
 result
 in disappointment and possibly disaster. We've all narrowed our foci and
 changed, and I think this comes out of a realization that we are just one
 community in a larger, non-linear web video community that has developed.
 Because of this, people who would have organized Vloggercon years ago are
 knee-deep in other projects, and organizing a conference of the size and
 scope that Vloggercon covered would be a massive project. Presented with
 the
 choice of Vloggercon or teaching people to videoblog, starting advocacy
 projects like the Open Video Alliance and the artist/documentarian org I am
 working to create and others, many of us are choosing the latter. In short,
 I think many in the community that made up the two Vloggercons are more
 interested in using their influence and tenure in this community to drive
 change instead of organizing a conference with more of a general purpose
 than a conference with a specific purpose.

 To be perfectly honest, I personally have discomfort with any for-profit
 entity taking over the Vloggercon name and what those two events represent.
 This is not up to me. But knowing the people that organized Vloggercon, I
 am
 willing to bet the farm that they agree and that it is unlikely that those
 who own the rights to the name will allow anyone to take it over. The
 videoblogging culture that existed 2004-2006 has evolved and subgroups and
 completely disassociated communites of vloggers have formed, and there's no
 going back. The idea of bringing back how things felt back then is
 tantalizing, but I am afraid that that's impossible at this point. I used
 to
 feel like many of you – disappointed that Vloggercon hasn't happened again.
 But seeing how things developed, I consider the Vloggercon experience to be
 whole, complete and appropriate for its time.

 That's not to say that another larger videoblogging event shouldn't happen
 and that I wouldn't attend, as there's so many people who weren't around
 when Vloggercon was happening and there's many perfectly great folks with
 commercial interests that could benefit from having facetime with other
 vloggers. I personally just don't think that event should be called
 Vloggercon.

 Just my 

Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread John Coffey
Hey Rupert, thanks for reminding me I still have 2 plane  plane tix to St Louis 
for the event Bill Streeter was going to do last summer. Nothing like pissing 
away $500.

JC

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote:


From: Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ 
Vloggercon 2009? ]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:49 AM








I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think 
it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across 
the country/world to attend a vlogging event.

You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative 
about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's 
priorities and interests.

Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and 
there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but 
in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the 
registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets.

Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about 
screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the 
people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two 
years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the 
economy.

The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement 
of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend.

There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new 
media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media 
that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social 
media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog 
and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority 
of vloggers, I don't think.

And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into 
attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much 
more intimate.

What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his 
experience of organising VlogEurope?

Rupert
http://twittervlog. tv

On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote:



 Hi,

 When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of 
 vloggercon and if there was going to be another one.

 People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it.

 I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are 
 interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They 
 would handle all the registration.

 Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo.

 Are people interested in this?

 Oct 15-17 Las Vegas.

 http://www.blogworl dexpo.com/

 Air and hotels are cheap.

 Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to 
 them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track 
 within thier conference.

 Thanks,
 --Steve


 

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Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Between Bill and I (I grew up in St. Louis), I wager we can make that $500
worth every penny. St. Louis can be an insanely great town, but you have to
know where to go.



2009/5/14 John Coffey jimmycrackhead2...@yahoo.com



 Hey Rupert, thanks for reminding me I still have 2 plane  plane tix to St
 Louis for the event Bill Streeter was going to do last summer. Nothing like
 pissing away $500.

 JC

 --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Rupert 
 rup...@fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%40fatgirlinohio.org
 wrote:

 From: Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org

 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [
 Vloggercon 2009? ]
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:49 AM


 I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think
 it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across
 the country/world to attend a vlogging event.

 You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative
 about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's
 priorities and interests.

 Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and
 there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but
 in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the
 registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets.

 Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about
 screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the
 people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two
 years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the
 economy.

 The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement
 of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend.

 There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new
 media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media
 that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social
 media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog
 and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority
 of vloggers, I don't think.

 And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into
 attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much
 more intimate.

 What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his
 experience of organising VlogEurope?

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog. tv

 On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote:

 
 
  Hi,
 
  When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of
  vloggercon and if there was going to be another one.
 
  People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it.
 
  I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are
  interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They
  would handle all the registration.
 
  Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo.
 
  Are people interested in this?
 
  Oct 15-17 Las Vegas.
 
  http://www.blogworl dexpo.com/
 
  Air and hotels are cheap.
 
  Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to
  them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track
  within thier conference.
 
  Thanks,
  --Steve
 
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread Rupert
You're welcome!
I only just escaped a financial scalping myself.  I was scolding  
myself for not having got my act together to buy tickets earlier, then  
it turned out for the best.
Same with another trip last year.  Could have lost about $1500  
altogether.

On 14-May-09, at 10:04 AM, John Coffey wrote:



 Hey Rupert, thanks for reminding me I still have 2 plane  plane tix  
 to St Louis for the event Bill Streeter was going to do last summer.  
 Nothing like pissing away $500.

 JC

 --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote:

 From: Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media  
 Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:49 AM

 I'm not sure it's a question of nobody wanting to run it. I think
 it's more a question of people not wanting to travel halfway across
 the country/world to attend a vlogging event.

 You know that I love this community, and so I'm not being negative
 about it. Just being realistic about what I see as people's
 priorities and interests.

 Bill Streeter tried valiantly to organise Vloggercamp last year, and
 there was a lot of interest from people signing up on the wiki - but
 in the end people just weren't motivated enough to pay the
 registration fee, let alone buy plane tickets.

 Pixelodeon got quite a few people attending because it was all about
 screening lots of videos in a posh venue. But even then most of the
 people who attended were from the West, I think. And that was two
 years ago, and things have changed in the vlogosphere and in the
 economy.

 The original Vloggercons and Vloggies worked because of the excitement
 of vlogging being so new. I wish I'd been able to attend.

 There's a small number of people here who do attend podcamps, new
 media expo, etc. The people who make their living from social media
 that you see on Twitter constantly tweeting about the latest social
 media trends and business opportunities, and telling you how to blog
 and make money from blogging. But this doesn't include the majority
 of vloggers, I don't think.

 And I'm not sure that most of the vloggers I know would be that into
 attending a big corporate Las Vegas expo as opposed to something much
 more intimate.

 What does anybody else think? Maybe Jeffrey could pipe in with his
 experience of organising VlogEurope?

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog. tv

 On 14-May-09, at 5:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote:

 
 
  Hi,
 
  When I was in NYC this weekend we were talking about the history of
  vloggercon and if there was going to be another one.
 
  People want to have another one, but no one wants to run it.
 
  I was talking to hte folks at Blog World Expo and they are
  interested in adding in Vloggercon to their October event. They
  would handle all the registration.
 
  Blog World Expo also now combines New Media Expo.
 
  Are people interested in this?
 
  Oct 15-17 Las Vegas.
 
  http://www.blogworl dexpo.com/
 
  Air and hotels are cheap.
 
  Let's talk here about it here and if there's interest I can talk to
  them about getting a room or two for a vloggercon conference track
  within thier conference.
 
  Thanks,
  --Steve
 
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread Markus Sandy
On May 14, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:


 Between Bill and I (I grew up in St. Louis), I wager we can make  
 that $500
 worth every penny. St. Louis can be an insanely great town, but you  
 have to
 know where to go.

Don't take that bet!  :)

We stopped by St. Louis on our cross country trip in February.  Bill  
was a most gracious host and really showed us the town.  Literally.  I  
highly recommend the lofistl, downtown, midnight tour with Bill as  
guide.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/apperceive/3321216587

Markus



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Re: [videoblogging] Blog World Expo and New Media Conference [ Vloggercon 2009? ]

2009-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Thanks, Jim.

I totally appreciate what you're saying, and thank you for taking what I had
to say in the spirit it was given. There is a market for a well-done web
video event that listens and serves the many openly-stated needs out there,
but I think any association with Vloggercon wouldn't serve any party
involved. Starting fresh and creating your own context is what I see as the
most prudent course of action here.

I think there's more infrastructure to build on from your end than
Vloggercon's, as the web video space has become an entirely different animal
with many new players since the last Vloggercon event.

If there's anything you would like to talk to the organizers about, shoot me
a mail directly and I will be happy to connect you.

J



2009/5/14 Jim Turner jtur...@onebyonemedia.com

 These are some great points Jeffrey and I am going to make sure that I
 voice
 them to the the leadership at Blog World and New Media Expo.  To the extent
 that we are replacing Vloggercon or any other I'm not sure that is our
 intent.  The idea behind putting a vloggercon type event together at Blog
 World is to leverage the already existing infrastructure and such.  I am
 not
 purporting to belong to the group of vloggers, as I indicated I am just now
 getting into it.  I felt I needed to get an idea of what it was before I
 could approach people and sound even remotely educated in their world.

 As an executive Board Member of the International Blogging and New Media
 Association I am also very interested in the education and cause side of
 vlogging and other ideas so feel free to give me some guidance in that
 regard.  I think this scope of ideas are good to know in that respect as
 well.

 ...and yes, I agree Steve is a RAWK star!

 Jim

 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jeffrey Taylor 
 thejeffreytay...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  Hi.
 
  The first thing to say is how wonderful I think Steve Garfield and his
  commitment to community is. He is such an asset to anyone who knows him
 and
  any community that he is a part of. I don't know him too well, but he is
  clearly one of the most valuable connectors around, and is a model for
  anyone interested in creating community on the web.
 
  Funny this should all come up...we've just finalized this year's Vlog
  Europe
  being in Paris and Clermont-Ferrand, France this year yesterday. We'll
 have
  dates and other things later, and you'll find more communications coming
  from Raymond and Loiez than me, as I'm stepping back a bit and letting
 the
  Europeans run their own European event now that I'm in San Francisco.
 
  With Vlog Europe, we have/had the added benefit of very easy
 accessibility
  to different cultures and different cities every year. And we've also
 been
  SUPER lucky to have faithful sponsors that get that we're not trying to
 be
  a
  major for-profit event like Le Web, New Media Expo or Jeff Pulver's
 events.
  In the end, though, I think the event has survived because there's a core
  committed group that really wants this to happen every year and this
 really
  frames the event – and that the event has never completely lost momentum.
  Vlog Europe (and in my opinion, Vloggercon too) has avoided the
 temptations
  of being part of the larger tech conference/event circuit and being a
  for-profit conference. Once someone starts making money out of the deal,
  everything changes and, rightly or wrongly, there's some discomfort with
  that and things tend to fall apart.
 
  While the ethos of that era is highly influential to me and to many of
 you,
  I think any attempt to force the same outcomes we had back then would
  result
  in disappointment and possibly disaster. We've all narrowed our foci and
  changed, and I think this comes out of a realization that we are just one
  community in a larger, non-linear web video community that has developed.
  Because of this, people who would have organized Vloggercon years ago are
  knee-deep in other projects, and organizing a conference of the size and
  scope that Vloggercon covered would be a massive project. Presented with
  the
  choice of Vloggercon or teaching people to videoblog, starting advocacy
  projects like the Open Video Alliance and the artist/documentarian org I
 am
  working to create and others, many of us are choosing the latter. In
 short,
  I think many in the community that made up the two Vloggercons are more
  interested in using their influence and tenure in this community to drive
  change instead of organizing a conference with more of a general purpose
  than a conference with a specific purpose.
 
  To be perfectly honest, I personally have discomfort with any for-profit
  entity taking over the Vloggercon name and what those two events
 represent.
  This is not up to me. But knowing the people that organized Vloggercon, I
  am
  willing to bet the farm that they agree and that it is unlikely that
 those
  who own the rights to the name will allow anyone to take it over. 

Re: [videoblogging] Independent World Television

2005-10-08 Thread Adam Quirk



On 10/7/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hmm. looks like a pretty cool site, Adam. Are you involved with the IWTproject?
I'm a volunteer. Not officially involved. I'd encourage
everyone here with any citizen journalism skills to check it
out. I personally don't really know my place in the organization
yet, but I really like the idea so I'm going to try to help them
somehow.
I'm wondering things like will each program have an RSS feed so
that I can download them in ant and watch them on my own schedule
rather than a set programming schedule and how would each
episode be licensed?


For example, the in brief video was really great
...if I wanted toinclude thatvidon my
site or in my feed to help spread the word ... well I wouldn't normally
want to do that unless it was stated somewhere that that right was
granted. Or, once they are fully operational if a 30sec clip from
one of their shows inspires me to action ... am I free to use that
clip? etc etc

IWT is very much based upon open information sharing. Take
anything you wish and re-broadcast it on your blog. They're
not scheduled to go on-air until 2007, so any publicity is good
publicity. There are no visible licenses as far as I can see, but
from talking to a couple people there I assure you that you will not be
sued for copyright infringement for stealing a video from the
site. Spread it!

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Re: [videoblogging] Independent World Television

2005-10-08 Thread Deirdre Straughan



On 10/7/05, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm not sure if this applies as much to other countries, where the news
channels are publicly owned entities and do not subsist on advertising
revenues. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The situation is no better in Italy, where the three state TV channels
(and their news organizations) are controlled by whoever's in the
government, currently Silvio Berlusconi. Italy's 3 major independent TV
channels are also owned and controlled by - Silvio Berlusconi. Along
with numerous newspapers and magazines.-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.straughan.com (personal)www.tvblob.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Independent World Television

2005-10-07 Thread David Meade



Hmm. looks like a pretty cool site, Adam. Are you involved with the IWTproject?

I'm wondering things like will each program have an RSS feed so that I can download them in ant and watch them on my own schedule rather than a set programming schedule and how would each episode be licensed?


For example, the in brief video was really great ...if I wanted toinclude thatvidon my site or in my feed to help spread the word ... well I wouldn't normally want to do that unless it was stated somewhere that that right was granted. Or, once they are fully operational if a 30sec clip from one of their shows inspires me to action ... am I free to use that clip? etc etc

Anyway - looks awesome thanks for the link - will give it more thorough look this weekend.
- Dave
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On 10/7/05, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Americans, please watch this:
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/laura_flandersMost Americans (not you guys, of course) probably don't realize how much of the news they hear/see/read is dictated by the advertisers.I'm not sure if this applies as much to other countries, where the news channels are publicly owned entities and do not subsist on advertising revenues. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Here's some more links:IWTnews VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS Pamela de Maigret, journalist, film-maker and Republican activist:I think you have to ask the question, do we have free elections in this country? I don't think we do This is one more of those stories that Independent World Television needs to stick with. 
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/pamela_de_maigret Lewis Lapham, Harper's Editor
:Television media isn't set up to appreciate dissent. It's a consumer product like soap, packaged to sell the most units to the most people. 
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/lewis_lapham Laura Flanders, Air America Radio:The big issues of our time -- like global warming or peak oil -- are critical stories to the majority of people on the planet. And yet somehow they're not 'media friendly' because they don't have a hook this week, or a drama in Washington taking place around them. 
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/laura_flanders Juan Gonzalez, Democracy Now! co-host
:I think the creation of independent TV and broadcasting right now is at the heart of preserving democracy throughout the industrialized world. 
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/juan_gonzalezRobert McChesney, Free Press founder:Independent World Television can be one of the cornerstones of a democratic media system.
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/robert_w_mcchesney Linda Foley, Newspaper Guild President:There are pressures in the newsrooms to cut back, to cut corners on journalism, both in terms of personnel and in how stories are pursued. 
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/linda_foley Nicco Mele, EchoDitto CEO and Dean campaign webmaster
:Independent World Television is an exciting way to break out of the way the media conglomerates, intentionally or unintentionally, editorially control content
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/linda_foley Joanne St. Lewis, University of Ottawa:The television media has to stop simply choosing the same experts -- it's about moving to a broader body politic. 
http://www.iwtnews.com/videoplayer/joanne_st_lewis--ACQ
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RE: [videoblogging] The World

2005-08-15 Thread Rick Short










What a great idea!

Thank you.



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 Go watch this awesome little video:
 http://randomshow.com/archives/9-Wonderful-World.html

Only catching up now... That _is_ awesome!
Instant classic indeed. I
was honored to be one of the stops on the world
tour.

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Re: [videoblogging] The World

2005-08-15 Thread Chris Baudry



Really awsome! What a great combination content / format!

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Re: [videoblogging] The World

2005-08-14 Thread Ryan Ozawa




 Go watch this awesome little video:
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Only catching up now... That _is_ awesome! Instant classic indeed. I
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