Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-31 Thread Steve Garfield



With YouTube you can have both, centralized videos and you can post 
videos on your blog.

Plus, anyone can post a YouTube video on their blog too.

They just don't allow downloads or feeds.

Millions of people don't seem to care.

On May 31, 2006, at 1:19 AM, Jay dedman wrote:

 I don't much like the idea that YouTube tries to centralize 
 everything on their site.
 One of the things I like about vlogging and the whole Internet TV 
 thing is that it is very decentralized without any barriers to entry 
 or consumption.

 well said.
 this is alos why i dont like YouTube.
 its also why so many people seem to like it.

 how dull would it be if all videos were all in one place..and you had
 to log in to be a part of it. However, if youre a money-making
 enterprise, this is wonderful.

 jay

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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-31 Thread Michael Sullivan



They just don't allow downloads or feeds.Millions of people don't seem to care.
obviously. the general audience of Internet TV are not creating content or into blogging.some who create content (not nec 'works' but just random clips of anythingness) dont care about open distribution architecture or copyrights. 
their will always be a few camps. those who are serious... not only about making content but precisely how that content is published/distributed and where it is hosted and under what terms and working to cater to a mixed audience who use various playback devices, whether mobile or home entertainment systems.
the less serious will grab hold of the youtubesque services, as ease and simplicity has more importance than anything else i have mentioned. simplicity in that having your video playable on the web after a painless upload process is all these people are after. send the link to those they wish to share it with and move on. 
yet others will find benefit in utilizing all of the above... if it makes sense to them. sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt. youtubesque services are a great way to put out teaser content and lead potential audience to your work where they can properly subscribe and even fund you.
its good to see features like video comments start to become an apparent core feature now. we'll be seeing this just about everywhere and it is a nice enhancement to the wide open videosphere we all play and dabble in. its as important as playlists.
sullOn 5/31/06, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With YouTube you can have both, centralized videos and you can postvideos on your blog.Plus, anyone can post a YouTube video on their blog too.They just don't allow downloads or feeds.Millions of people don't seem to care.
On May 31, 2006, at 1:19 AM, Jay dedman wrote: I don't much like the idea that YouTube tries to centralize everything on their site. One of the things I like about vlogging and the whole Internet TV
 thing is that it is very decentralized without any barriers to entry or consumption. well said. this is alos why i dont like YouTube. its also why so many people seem to like it.
 how dull would it be if all videos were all in one place..and you had to log in to be a part of it. However, if youre a money-making enterprise, this is wonderful. jay
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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-31 Thread Adam Quirk



I bet there will be a lot more crossover now too, moving from amateur kids uploading clips of themselves jumping their skateboard, to maybe getting better shots, then maybe deciding to throw a plot in here and there, and eventually enjoying it so much that they want to focus more energy on making good video. 
I bet if I had an audience for the ridiculous home videos I made as a kid with my parent's VHS, I would probably be further right now in my skills.I also hate YouTube for the reasons listed so far, and also for the fact that I can't reuse or remix anything because I don't know how to do that with Flash. BUT, in the long run it's a good thing, getting this many people involved involved with video this early in their lives.
--AQthepan.orgtheir will always be a few camps. 
those who are serious... not only about making content but precisely how that content is published/distributed and where it is hosted and under what terms and working to cater to a mixed audience who use various playback devices, whether mobile or home entertainment systems.
the less serious will grab hold of the youtubesque services, as ease and simplicity has more importance than anything else i have mentioned. simplicity in that having your video playable on the web after a painless upload process is all these people are after. send the link to those they wish to share it with and move on. 
yet others will find benefit in utilizing all of the above... if it makes sense to them. sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt. youtubesque services are a great way to put out teaser content and lead potential audience to your work where they can properly subscribe and even fund you.
its good to see features like video comments start to become an apparent core feature now. we'll be seeing this just about everywhere and it is a nice enhancement to the wide open videosphere we all play and dabble in. its as important as playlists.
sullOn 5/31/06, Steve Garfield 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

With YouTube you can have both, centralized videos and you can postvideos on your blog.Plus, anyone can post a YouTube video on their blog too.They just don't allow downloads or feeds.Millions of people don't seem to care.
On May 31, 2006, at 1:19 AM, Jay dedman wrote: I don't much like the idea that YouTube tries to centralize everything on their site. One of the things I like about vlogging and the whole Internet TV
 thing is that it is very decentralized without any barriers to entry or consumption. well said. this is alos why i dont like YouTube. its also why so many people seem to like it.
 how dull would it be if all videos were all in one place..and you had to log in to be a part of it. However, if youre a money-making enterprise, this is wonderful. jay

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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-31 Thread Lisa Harper



Which raises the question... how do jumpcut, eyespot and others actually do re-mixing with flash? Do they create lots of smaller clips out of your uploaded clips or is there some means in flash to clone parts of an flv?
LisaOn 5/31/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I bet there will be a lot more crossover now too, moving from amateur kids uploading clips of themselves jumping their skateboard, to maybe getting better shots, then maybe deciding to throw a plot in here and there, and eventually enjoying it so much that they want to focus more energy on making good video. 
I bet if I had an audience for the ridiculous home videos I made as a kid with my parent's VHS, I would probably be further right now in my skills.I also hate YouTube for the reasons listed so far, and also for the fact that I can't reuse or remix anything because I don't know how to do that with Flash. BUT, in the long run it's a good thing, getting this many people involved involved with video this early in their lives.
--AQthepan.org
their will always be a few camps. 
those who are serious... not only about making content but precisely how that content is published/distributed and where it is hosted and under what terms and working to cater to a mixed audience who use various playback devices, whether mobile or home entertainment systems.
the less serious will grab hold of the youtubesque services, as ease and simplicity has more importance than anything else i have mentioned. simplicity in that having your video playable on the web after a painless upload process is all these people are after. send the link to those they wish to share it with and move on. 
yet others will find benefit in utilizing all of the above... if it makes sense to them. sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt. youtubesque services are a great way to put out teaser content and lead potential audience to your work where they can properly subscribe and even fund you.
its good to see features like video comments start to become an apparent core feature now. we'll be seeing this just about everywhere and it is a nice enhancement to the wide open videosphere we all play and dabble in. its as important as playlists.
sullOn 5/31/06, Steve Garfield 

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With YouTube you can have both, centralized videos and you can postvideos on your blog.Plus, anyone can post a YouTube video on their blog too.They just don't allow downloads or feeds.Millions of people don't seem to care.
On May 31, 2006, at 1:19 AM, Jay dedman wrote: I don't much like the idea that YouTube tries to centralize everything on their site. One of the things I like about vlogging and the whole Internet TV
 thing is that it is very decentralized without any barriers to entry or consumption. well said. this is alos why i dont like YouTube. its also why so many people seem to like it.
 how dull would it be if all videos were all in one place..and you had to log in to be a part of it. However, if youre a money-making enterprise, this is wonderful. jay


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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-31 Thread Steve Garfield



Save YouTube videos with KeepVid, then make the .flv file iPod ready 
with iSquint.

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via
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keepvid/

http://www.isquint.org/

On May 31, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Adam Quirk wrote:

 I also hate YouTube for the reasons listed so far, and also for the 
 fact that I can't reuse or remix anything because I don't know how to 
 do that with Flash.

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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-31 Thread WWWhatsup




Yes, but what's really frustrating is.. all that great vid, and all at
such crappy quality.

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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-31 Thread Lisa Harper



Do you mean from youtube's transcoding or the quality of original
uploaded videos... or both?
Lisa

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 Yes, but what's really frustrating is.. all that great vid, and all at
 such crappy quality.

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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-31 Thread Adam Quirk



Yeah, that works and I've done it (using Sorenson Squeeze instead of iSquint since I'm on PC).I guess I should have rephrased my complaint, because the process to reuse or remix Youtube videos is unnecessarily convoluted and pisses me off to the point that I don't even bother any more.
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On May 31, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Adam Quirk wrote:

 I also hate YouTube for the reasons listed so far, and also for the 
 fact that I can't reuse or remix anything because I don't know how to 
 do that with Flash.

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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-30 Thread Ted Tagami



This is great stuff. I'm interested in seeing more conversational media tools!On 5/30/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Steve Garfield just pointed me to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX9A5CqZGhw

you can now leave video comments directly on another video.
so that Sexism conversationwe could have right here.

i still dont like how YouTube breaks the connection of blogs...
and there is a real concern with their licensing (ie will I see my
video on TV and not be compensated?)
but this is cool.

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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-30 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux



Hello Jay,On 5/30/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Garfield just pointed me to this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX9A5CqZGhwyou can now leave video comments directly on another video.so that Sexism conversationwe could have right here.
i still dont like how YouTube breaks the connection of blogs...and there is a real concern with their licensing (ie will I see myvideo on TV and not be compensated?)but this is cool.
I don't much like the idea that YouTube tries to centralize everything on their site.One of the things I like about vlogging and the whole Internet TV thing is that it is very decentralized without any barriers to entry or consumption.
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Re: [videoblogging] youtube has video comments

2006-05-30 Thread Jay dedman



 I don't much like the idea that YouTube tries to centralize everything on their site.
 One of the things I like about vlogging and the whole Internet TV thing is that it is very decentralized without any barriers to entry or consumption.

well said.
this is alos why i dont like YouTube.
its also why so many people seem to like it.

how dull would it be if all videos were all in one place..and you had
to log in to be a part of it. However, if youre a money-making
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