Re: [Videolib] prioritizing media cataloging
Hi All, I do not work in an academic setting, but this issue has always irked me as a public librarian. Since finishing library school, I have worked for three different library systems of three different sizes, but have experienced the same issue at all three of them. Namely, the AV materials are consistently placed at the back of the line for priority. And perhaps even more so than in an academic setting, AV materials easily comprise 40-50 percent (or more) of overall circulation in most public libraries, yet they continue to be ignored and discounted as to their intrinsic worth to the system. Recently, I have had to tell several different patrons that AV materials I had ordered four months or more prior were not yet available for their use. I have gone so far as to ask (beg) the head of technical services to send the items to me so I could catalog/process them, but to no avail. Very frustrating. Blane Halliday Collier County Public Library Branch Manager, Vanderbilt Beach Library 788 Vanderbilt Beach Road Naples, Florida 34108 Phone: (239) 597-8444 Fax: (239) 597-3653 bhalli...@collier-lib.org VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] prioritizing media cataloging
As some of you know, I was recently complaining and whining about how our catalog department seems to find media cataloging particularly troublesome, and thus, we have a big back-up of materials. Also, I complained that they didn't want to catalog our FMG Films on Demand items, because it was too much trouble. So, after that, I decided to ask them to catalog the FMG items. They say they can, but I must prioritize-should they concentrate on cataloging the physical media items that we have waiting (several thousand, due to alumni donations) or the FMG collection (also several thousand titles). What do you all think, collective wisdom? Maureen Tripp Media Librarian Iwasaki Library 120 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02116 maureen_tr...@emerson.edu (617)824-8407 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] prioritizing media cataloging
My guess would be that the alumni items would go last because they are often older entertainment (feature) films, and the FFH might in theory be used immediately by faculty, but I may be wrong. It would all have to do with the perception of the usage or reports. From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Maureen Tripp Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:40 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: [Videolib] prioritizing media cataloging As some of you know, I was recently complaining and whining about how our catalog department seems to find media cataloging particularly troublesome, and thus, we have a big back-up of materials. Also, I complained that they didn't want to catalog our FMG Films on Demand items, because it was too much trouble. So, after that, I decided to ask them to catalog the FMG items. They say they can, but I must prioritize-should they concentrate on cataloging the physical media items that we have waiting (several thousand, due to alumni donations) or the FMG collection (also several thousand titles). What do you all think, collective wisdom? Maureen Tripp Media Librarian Iwasaki Library 120 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02116 maureen_tr...@emerson.edu (617)824-8407 Montgomery County Community College is proud to be the #1 ranked technology-savvy community college in the nation, as determined by the Center for Digital Education and Converge magazine. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] prioritizing media cataloging
What do I think? I think I'd be in the office of the Head of Technical Services quicker than you can say MARC delimited. Since when do catalogers get to call the shots about the parts of the collection that deserve priority access (or that get sent to bibliographic Siberia)? Since when is bibliographic difficulty a measure of what gets cataloged? Besides: I'd wager a very large portion of your acquisitions have copy in one form or another...what's the big deal. Even the FMG digital stuff probably has at least passable OCLC copy. You need to kick ass, girl! To borrow a line from Big Audio Dynamite, God I love it when you're domineering! I'm afraid that there are several institutions in which the catalogers get a say in, if not exactly calling the shots for, what gets cataloged and in what order. And bibliographic difficulty, at least where video materials are concerned is a valid concern if not exactly an example of the service ethic expected of professionals. Time equals money and a lot of cataloging operations are constantly under the gun for spending too much time/money on selected items. Cataloging video material materials can be, depending on the library's technical requirements for fullness of records, very time-consuming, generally much moreso than books. However, if the Tech Services Dept. will (or is allowed to) countenance less-than-comprehensive records for some materials in the catalog, doing brief records can save time while still creating access in the catalog. As to OCLC copy, in my experience records for video materials need a lot more checking and tweaking if your cataloging standards are set as high as a lot of academic libraries like to set them. Verifying name authority, for instance, for films can take a lot longer than doing so for books just because of the number of contributors likely to be traced. If comprehensive name authority is not a necessity, however (and it's not in OCLC), tracings may become a simple matter of typing. Maureen, I'd enjoy hearing how you come out on this. And Gary, I'm glad I'm not the Head of Technical Services at Berkeley. Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] prioritizing media cataloging
In a dimly remembered, pre-media life (1979 to 1984), I WAS the assistant head/Acting Head of Acquisitions at UCB (really!), so I know the ropes (or, at least, I knew them 25 years ago). I DO know that Tech Services ARE public services: if the stuff don't get cataloged, it don't get used. gary What do I think? I think I'd be in the office of the Head of Technical Services quicker than you can say MARC delimited. Since when do catalogers get to call the shots about the parts of the collection that deserve priority access (or that get sent to bibliographic Siberia)? Since when is bibliographic difficulty a measure of what gets cataloged? Besides: I'd wager a very large portion of your acquisitions have copy in one form or another...what's the big deal. Even the FMG digital stuff probably has at least passable OCLC copy. You need to kick ass, girl! To borrow a line from Big Audio Dynamite, God I love it when you're domineering! I'm afraid that there are several institutions in which the catalogers get a say in, if not exactly calling the shots for, what gets cataloged and in what order. And bibliographic difficulty, at least where video materials are concerned is a valid concern if not exactly an example of the service ethic expected of professionals. Time equals money and a lot of cataloging operations are constantly under the gun for spending too much time/money on selected items. Cataloging video material materials can be, depending on the library's technical requirements for fullness of records, very time-consuming, generally much moreso than books. However, if the Tech Services Dept. will (or is allowed to) countenance less-than-comprehensive records for some materials in the catalog, doing brief records can save time while still creating access in the catalog. As to OCLC copy, in my experience records for video materials need a lot more checking and tweaking if your cataloging standards are set as high as a lot of academic libraries like to set them. Verifying name authority, for instance, for films can take a lot longer than doing so for books just because of the number of contributors likely to be traced. If comprehensive name authority is not a necessity, however (and it's not in OCLC), tracings may become a simple matter of typing. Maureen, I'd enjoy hearing how you come out on this. And Gary, I'm glad I'm not the Head of Technical Services at Berkeley. Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] prioritizing media cataloging
A year +/- before we opened our doors in 1975, the main library on campus was cataloging our materials. Sometime during 1976, our director got tired of telling faculty that the video we bought for them to use in class could not be used yet (6+ months after arrival) because it was still in the main library waiting to be cataloged. She opted for minimal, barely trained (me) cataloging that could be processed somewhat more quickly. The most important benefit of this arrangement was that we could make do for a little while with temporary record keeping/tracking in order for the material to get to the classroom as soon as it was taken out of the box and a phone call could be made. Thankfully, our department now has someone who does a much more thorough job of cataloging than I ever did, and does it quickly. The turnaround time can be a couple of hours, if necessary. She retrieves hastily created, skeleton records at a later date and fleshes them out when she has the time to devote to them. She also is never out of projects to keep a GA and a student busy. Our methods are not strictly by the rules, but we value getting material into classrooms promptly one step above the fastidiousness of cataloging. Good luck, Gail On 2/11/2011 1:52 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: In a dimly remembered, pre-media life (1979 to 1984), I WAS the assistant head/Acting Head of Acquisitions at UCB (really!), so I know the ropes (or, at least, I knew them 25 years ago). I DO know that Tech Services ARE public services: if the stuff don't get cataloged, it don't get used. gary What do I think? I think I'd be in the office of the Head of Technical Services quicker than you can say MARC delimited. Since when do catalogers get to call the shots about the parts of the collection that deserve priority access (or that get sent to bibliographic Siberia)? Since when is bibliographic difficulty a measure of what gets cataloged? Besides: I'd wager a very large portion of your acquisitions have copy in one form or another...what's the big deal. Even the FMG digital stuff probably has at least passable OCLC copy. You need to kick ass, girl! To borrow a line from Big Audio Dynamite, God I love it when you're domineering! I'm afraid that there are several institutions in which the catalogers get a say in, if not exactly calling the shots for, what gets cataloged and in what order. And bibliographic difficulty, at least where video materials are concerned is a valid concern if not exactly an example of the service ethic expected of professionals. Time equals money and a lot of cataloging operations are constantly under the gun for spending too much time/money on selected items. Cataloging video material materials can be, depending on the library's technical requirements for fullness of records, very time-consuming, generally much moreso than books. However, if the Tech Services Dept. will (or is allowed to) countenance less-than-comprehensive records for some materials in the catalog, doing brief records can save time while still creating access in the catalog. As to OCLC copy, in my experience records for video materials need a lot more checking and tweaking if your cataloging standards are set as high as a lot of academic libraries like to set them. Verifying name authority, for instance, for films can take a lot longer than doing so for books just because of the number of contributors likely to be traced. If comprehensive name authority is not a necessity, however (and it's not in OCLC), tracings may become a simple matter of typing. Maureen, I'd enjoy hearing how you come out on this. And Gary, I'm glad I'm not the Head of Technical Services at Berkeley. Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers
