[BOF] Killer feature

2006-10-08 Thread Martin Krischik
Hello

At the end of the Vim BOF you asked for a killer feature and - unlike your 
guest - I immediately had few ideas. Thinking of it I was able to boil it 
down to the one killer feature:

Eclipse-Integration

And yes, I already voted on it. I soon have to work with Eclipse - no two ways 
around it. And I don't think I am the only one. And while Eclipse has tons of 
features when it comes to text editing it's just another CUA Editor.

Martin
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Re: usability suggestion: 'viminfo'

2006-10-08 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Tony Mechelynck wrote:

 Bram: The vimrc_example.vim is already mentioned in 23 helpfile lines.
 I suggest that (a) it be mentioned also under :help vimrc and (b)
 that the text under :help not-compatible be changed to mention
 sourcing rather than (as now) copying. Sourcing is not really more
 complicated than copying, it is a Vim thing, and it is done the same
 way on all platforms:

I rather have beginners copy the vimrc_example.vim file and change it.
That way they learn about the commands inside them and what happens when
disabled.  Sourcing the script without looking in it doesn't teach you
anything.

I know this means that an updated version won't be picked up
automatically, but that is less important when you are just starting
with Vim.

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Patch 7.0.121

2006-10-08 Thread Bram Moolenaar

Patch 7.0.121
Problem:GUI: Dragging the last status line doesn't work when there is a
text tabline.  (Markus Wolf)
Solution:   Take the text tabline into account when deciding to start modeless
selection.
Files:  src/gui.c


*** ../vim-7.0.120/src/gui.cSun Sep 10 21:38:48 2006
--- src/gui.c   Sun Oct  8 12:47:04 2006
***
*** 2873,2878 
--- 2873,2881 
   */
  if ((State == NORMAL || State == NORMAL_BUSY || (State  INSERT))
 Y_2_ROW(y) = topframe-fr_height
+ # ifdef FEAT_WINDOWS
+   + firstwin-w_winrow
+ # endif
 button != MOUSE_DRAG
  # ifdef FEAT_MOUSESHAPE
 !drag_status_line
*** ../vim-7.0.120/src/version.cFri Oct  6 23:33:22 2006
--- src/version.c   Sun Oct  8 13:55:58 2006
***
*** 668,669 
--- 668,671 
  {   /* Add new patch number below this line */
+ /**/
+ 121,
  /**/

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A couple of notes on VIM performance

2006-10-08 Thread Alexei Alexandrov
Hi All!

I'd like to whine about VIM 7 performance a little bit. I use VIM both on 
Windows and Linux and really love it. But recently I found myself using another 
editor (embedded editor in FAR file manager, if you know what it is) more often 
than I'd like to. I analyzed myself and found that the reason is VIM startup 
time. My VIM configuration became more comples, I moved to VIM 7 and suddenly 
my the delay of VIM startup became too long for my brain so the brain chooses 
to start another editor sometimes. This applied to Windows only, because Linux 
startup is OK (so far - I'm on 6.3 there). Timed with

gvim -c :q .vimrc

it takes 0.91 seconds for VIM to start up and shut down.

I didn't like this thing and decided to do some investigations on VIM startup 
time. Since the start up time usually has to do with reading various 
configuration files, I profiled the VIM startup with filemon (from 
sysinternals.com) and it showed several interesting (maybe to me only) things.

1. Enabling spell checking in .vimrc file is pretty expensive. When I comment 
out line

set spell spelllang=en,ru

the startup time reduces to 0.6 seconds.

2. Taglist plugin does a search for ctags command which becames pretty 
expensive once you have a lot of directories in your PATH. I was able to make 
it to avoid the search by adding line

let g:Tlist_Ctags_Cmd = 'ctags'

to my .vimrc. This saved about 0.06 seconds. Not that big but better than it 
was.

3. I found that I pay about 0.2 seconds on every VIM startup for Perl, TCL, 
Python and Scheme interfaces. This is very approximate number - I got it from 
filemon logs and didn't try to recompile VIM without those features. As far as 
I can see, VIM locates (and loads?) Perl, TCL, Python and Scheme libraries and 
reads in / parses perl.vim, tcl.vim, python.vim and scheme.vim syntax files. 
From the source code it seems to be that loading of these interfaces should be 
on demand, so I'm not sure why this happens. Any hints?

4. There are other places which contribute to the start-up time (not so big, 
though). For example, I found a lot of reading from $VIMRUNTIME/rgb.txt file. 
It turned out that I use desert color scheme, which refers the colors by their 
names. These names are read from the abovementioned file along with their RGB 
values (gui_mch_get_color). What is not very good is that reading is done for 
every gui_mch_get_color call (well, if the name of the color is not in 
pre-defined table) and the result is not kept in the memory.


The number 1 above concerns me most of all. I really like spell-checking but 
paying 0.3 seconds on each startup seems to be slow. It would be nice if VIM 
could do the loading of spl files in background.

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[Vim] Ada language Mode.

2006-10-08 Thread Martin Krischik
Hello,

I have created a new language mode for Ada [1] and would like anybody who
interested in Ada and Vim to comment on.

The new mode offers:

* Support for Ada 2005 keywords [2].
* Improved syntax highlight (Including all standart Pragmas and Attributes).
* User completion (Keyword, Pragmas, Attributes)
* Omni completions (using ctags or gnat xref).
* Tag search (using ctags or gnat xref).
* Unified Online help (One ada.txt for all).
* Compiler support for GNAT and Dec Ada (using an extensible OO-Design).
* Three different folding mechanisms.
* All function are autoload.
* Optimised for Vim 7

The aim is to replace the Ada language mode, which is currently part of the
standart runtime, with this new mode.

Martin

[1] http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1609
[2] http://www.adaic.org/standards/ada05.html
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Re: A couple of notes on VIM performance

2006-10-08 Thread Jussi Hagman


On 8.10.2006, at 15:37, Alexei Alexandrov wrote:

The number 1 above concerns me most of all. I really like spell- 
checking but paying 0.3 seconds on each startup seems to be slow.  
It would be nice if VIM could do the loading of spl files in  
background.


Sorry to be a bit negative, but if the startup time, which to me is  
quite fast, really bothers you so much, don't quit vim all the time.


Also :he clientserver may help you, I don't use it myself though so I  
don't know much about it.


I'll let others comment on optimizing vim.


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Patch for python syntax

2006-10-08 Thread Alexei Alexandrov
Hi All!

Here is a small patch for python.vim syntax file which enables spell checking 
in comments and strings only. It would be nice to include it into VIM 7.

P.S. It seems that very few syntax files support @Spell/@NoSpell correctly.

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Re: [Vim] Ada language Mode.

2006-10-08 Thread Nikolai Weibull

On 10/8/06, Martin Krischik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I have created a new language mode for Ada [1] and would like anybody who
interested in Ada and Vim to comment on.


I'm not interested in the slightest, but I'll comment anyway.

Here's how to get your additions into the main Vim release:

Please get in contact with the current maintainer(s) of the file(s)
you intend to replace.  They'll either give maintainership to you, or
they'll integrate your additions into their file(s).  As it sounds
like you've maid considerable additions to the language mode, I'll
assume that they'll be glad to give you maintainership of the files.

Anyway, when that's been decided, get the maintainer(s) to contact
Bram to notify him of the changes in maintainership and send along the
new files.

 nikolai


Q: rsync://ftp.vim.org/Vim/runtime/ - when?

2006-10-08 Thread Alexey I. Froloff
When current version of vim runtime will be updated for latest
patches?  Patch 111 modifies autoload/gzip.vim and doc/eval.txt
which are still outdated on ftp...

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Re: New Versions of 4nt and tcmd

2006-10-08 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 8-Oct-06 7:29pm -0600, Bill McCarthy wrote:

 New versions of 4nt and tcmd were recently loaded to the FTP
 site.  These are still called 8.00.49.  What is the
 difference?

Sorry, I sent that to the wrong email address.

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Bill



Re: Q: rsync://ftp.vim.org/Vim/runtime/ - when?

2006-10-08 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 8-Oct-06 7:39pm -0600, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:


 Bill McCarthy wrote:
 On Sun 8-Oct-06 5:42pm -0600, Alexey I. Froloff wrote:
 
 When current version of vim runtime will be updated for latest
 patches?  Patch 111 modifies autoload/gzip.vim and doc/eval.txt
 which are still outdated on ftp...
 
 The gzip.vim is clearly old, but comparing (vimdiff) the
 eval.txt on the FTP site to the patch version on CVS, they
 both share the same internal date of 22-Sep-2006 yet the one
 on the FTP site looks newer.
 
 I generally find it easier to ignore the patches to runtime
 files and, instead, rely on the FTP site for those.  They
 are usually updated fairly quickly.
 

 After checking, the new versions of the files mentioned in patch 111 agree
 with the latest versions I downloaded from the rsync server, except that the
 gzip.vim lacks the new datestamp (the rest of the file is OK though.)

After deleting gzip.vim and performing a copy update from
the ftp site, the gzip.vim downloaded is older.  It will not
use the new shellescape function.  It has this logic:

  if v:version  700 || (v:version == 700  has('patch999'))
return shellescape(a:name)
  endif

The patched version on the CVS, has the same code but the
has() has:

  has('patch111'))

so it will use the new function.

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Re: turn on automatic indent

2006-10-08 Thread Jim

Hello,

I am using VIM on RH 9.0, is it possible to have automatic indent for 
linux bash if then ... fi? If yes, could you please explain how?


Thank you.

Jim


Re: Forms highlighting

2006-10-08 Thread Mikolaj Machowski
Dnia sobota, 7 października 2006 09:23, napisałeś:
 There is a new version at:

 http://haridara.googlepages.com/forms.vim

 Significant changes being:
 - Support for disabling fields.

This may be question of gusto but IMO disabled field should be visible
but greyed out, not completely hidden. I know some usability studies
favor hiding it but it is usually in GUI when disabled element is
completely removed, empty lines in Vim form look strange.

Rest feels very nice. Thanks for fixing multiple same-hotkeys problem.


 I modified the demo to include both enabling/disabling fields as well as
 validation (zip field). 

When inserting non-valid data it is almost impossible to leave zip
field. At least some warning message would be appropriate.

This is not for forms stuff but demoform should set good standards for
interaction :)

 On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 at 1:19pm, Mikolaj Machowski wrote:
  C-N, C-P? It should work everywhere and is quite natural for Vim
  users (IMO).

 Now C-N and C-P also work like Tab and S-Tab.

Thanks.
It has problems when leaving combobox backward but so far it is the best
way to navigate in Linux terminal.

  I would expect some simplifying in use. For example why explicitly
  declare them? Create listeners automatically.

 I am not still clear. How can you create listeners automatically? Can
 you give some example?

Maybe by comparison. Now creation of form is:

1. Create listener
2. Define listener functions
3. Create form (g:forms#form.new)
4. Add fields and in buttons declare listener explicitly
5. Add loop to add listener to all other fields
6. Add listener events functions

Steps 1. 5. and second half of 4. IMO are not really necessary.

Make it:
1. Create form (g:forms#form.new)
2. Define listener functions
3. Add fields
4. Add listener events functions

Creation of listener could be done in form.new depending on argument of
call.

 - Validators.
 
  Local validation (onBlur event) can be already done. Problem is when
  doing after pressing OK. Hmm, in fact it can be also done but is
  boring ;) to do. Some API for that would be good.

 How was onBlur event possible? Previously you could do validation in the
 valueChanged() callback, but you couldn't constrain the focus, but the
 new isValid() callback allows that.

My mistake, looked like valueChanged works in way of onBlur.

  Title may be declared. Make it support for non showing it, like::

 What is the use of declaring it when not showing? Are you thinking of it
 as an identifier, like a name for fields?

Yes. 

  One change which would be good to introduce before official beta:
  obligatory fields. As I wrote earlier - full validation if possible
  but laborious. And declaring it in API should allow for some emphasis
  (highlighting?).

 Does the new isValid() callback meet your expectations?

Sorry, don't have time to test it but I suspect this is exactly what
I want.

m.



Re: Win32 build of updated gvim

2006-10-08 Thread Yongwei Wu

On 10/7/06, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://wyw.dcweb.cn/download.asp?path=vimfile=gvim70.zip

Steve Hall's Vim can be downloaded (with runtime files as of build date) from
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=43866package_id=39721
-- the latest patchlevel as of this writing is 7.0.118 dated Oct. 3, 2006; and
as the release notes show, it has the following characteristics:
   Big version with MS-Windows 32-bit GUI and OLE support, and also (IIUC)
   Big MS-Windows 32-bit version without GUI
   +gettext/dyn
   +iconv/dyn
   +multi_byte_ime/dyn
   +mzscheme/dyn, for libmzsch352.dll and libmzgc352.dll
   +perl/dyn, for perl58.dll
   +python/dyn, for python24.dll
   +ruby/dyn, for msvcrt-ruby18.dll
   +tcl/dyn, for tcl84.dll

As you probably know, /dyn means that the feature will be present if the
appropriate DLL is found in the PATH, and that Vim will work OK, but without
the feature, if the DLL is not found. IIUC, +multi_byte_ime/dyn also means
that it will function as +multi_byte but -multi_byte_ime if the Windows IME is
not found.

This is not to berate Yongwei's efforts, quite the opposite: the runtime files
don't really need to be updated as often as the binaries, and downloading only
the latter saves bandwidth (both yours and at the download site).


I did try Steve's build, but I found this method of updating is quite
troublesome and takes more time than I like to (maybe someone should
write a program to automatically update the runtime files?). Besides,
my build has some (minor) differences from Steve's:

* His binary includes more features, like MzScheme (absent from the
standard build too)
* His binary is built with GCC, while mine with MSVC
* His binary is a little `fatter' than mine
* I only provide gvim.exe, but not vim.exe (this can change if people
do want it)

It is good that people can have multiple choices :-).

Best regards,

Yongwei

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Re: adding first part to input()

2006-10-08 Thread Eric Smith

Excellent

The completion type that I am looking for is dictionary completion
like when I go
c-X c-K in insert mode.

Is there a way to achieve completion from words in specified files
with the input() function?

Thanks

Eric

On 08/10/06, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The input() function takes (at least in Vim 7) up to three arguments, as 
follows:

input({prompt} [, {text} [, {completion}]])

{prompt} is the question text Vim will ask the user

{text} if present and not empty, is the default reply. IIUC, this is what you
want.

{completion} (optional) is the kind of completion to use. Valid values (which



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server not dound with aap update

2006-10-08 Thread Eric Smith

Anyone else experience this:
cvs [checkout aborted]: connect to cvs.sf.net(66.35.250.207):2401
failed: No route to host
Aap: Error in recipe /home/eric/VIM/main.aap line 38: fetch failed
for ['vim7']

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Re: Mapping german umlauts

2006-10-08 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Meino Christian Cramer wrote:

Hi,

 I want to remap the german umlauts to {,[,] and } in normal
 mode only.

 When I type the umlauts on the commandline of my zsh there is no
 problem.
 
 When I type them in insert mode in vim: no problems.

 Therefore I /think/ (read: dont no for sure) that there should be no
 problem.

 In my $HOME/.vimrc I wrote:

 nnoremap o [
 nnoremap a ]
 nnoremap O {
 nnoremap A }

 (I replaced the umlauts with their corresponding vowels here in this
 mail only -- just to make them displayable in any case...)
 
 But this does not work. With the :map command I can see the maps but

 the umlauts looks like 8bit-something. Two of them are displayed as
 two characters.

 Then I tried:

 nnoremap o [
 nnoremap a ]
 nnoremap O {
 nnoremap A }

 which results in nothing: Now the corrupted maps via the :map
 command has vanished completly.

 Now I got an Error message displayed in front of my inner eye:
 WARNING! Idea stack underflow!

 What can I try else ?

 Thank you very much for any help in advance !
 Keep hacking!
 mcc




You should not change 'encoding' after setting your maps; and if your vimrc's 
'fileencoding' is not your 'encoding' then it ought to have a 
:scriptencoding statement.


Or else, you can encode it in 7-bit ASCII using Char-nn notation, e.g.

exe noremap Char-196 }  |  LATIN CAPITAL A WITH DIAERESIS
exe noremap Char-214 {  |  LATIN CAPITAL O WITH DIAERESIS
exe noremap Char-228 ]  |  LATIN SMALL A WITH DIAERESIS
exe noremap Char-246 [  |  LATIN SMALL O WITH DIAERESIS

The above should work regardless of whether your 'encoding' is Latin1, UTF-8, 
or (I think) cp1252; but if you use an 'encoding' different from your locale 
charset, you should still set 'encoding' first and define the mappings 
afterwards. (I use :exe wrapping here to allow a comment on the same line.)


Similarly:
Ä   196 0xC4LATIN CAPITAL A WITH DIAERESIS
Ö   214 0xD6LATIN CAPITAL O WITH DIAERESIS
Ü   220 0xDCLATIN CAPITAL U WITH DIAERESIS
ß   223 0xDFLATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S
ä   228 0xE4LATIN SMALL A WITH DIAERESIS
ö   246 0xF6LATIN SMALL O WITH DIAERESIS
ü   252 0xFCLATIN SMALL U WITH DIAERESIS

see
:help Char
:help :scriptencoding
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf
etc.


Best regards,
Tony.


Re: turn on automatic indent

2006-10-08 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Jim wrote:

Hello,

I am using VIM on RH 9.0, is it possible to have automatic indent for 
linux bash if then ... fi? If yes, could you please explain how?


Thank you.

Jim



1. To activate $VIMRUNTIME/indent/sh.vim (and also indent scripts for other 
filetypes), make sure that your vimrc contains one of


filetype plugin indent on
or
source $VIMRUNTIME/vimrc_example.vim
or
runtime vimrc_example.vim

2. A file with extension .sh will be recognised as a shell script. Also an 
existing file whose first line is #!/bin/bash


3. To have Vim recognise a new file with no .sh extension as a shell script, 
either:


3a. Enter #!/bin/bash then reload the file with :w followed with :e

or

3b. :setlocal ft=sh



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Mapping german umlauts

2006-10-08 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping german umlauts
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:41:22 +0200

 Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
  Hi,
  
   I want to remap the german umlauts to {,[,] and } in normal
   mode only.
  
   When I type the umlauts on the commandline of my zsh there is no
   problem.
   
   When I type them in insert mode in vim: no problems.
   Therefore I /think/ (read: dont no for sure) that there should be no
   problem.
  
   In my $HOME/.vimrc I wrote:
  
   nnoremap o [
   nnoremap a ]
   nnoremap O {
   nnoremap A }
  
   (I replaced the umlauts with their corresponding vowels here in this
   mail only -- just to make them displayable in any case...)
   
   But this does not work. With the :map command I can see the maps but
   the umlauts looks like 8bit-something. Two of them are displayed as
   two characters.
  
   Then I tried:
  
   nnoremap o [
   nnoremap a ]
   nnoremap O {
   nnoremap A }
  
   which results in nothing: Now the corrupted maps via the :map
   command has vanished completly.
  
   Now I got an Error message displayed in front of my inner eye:
   WARNING! Idea stack underflow!
  
   What can I try else ?
  
   Thank you very much for any help in advance !
   Keep hacking!
   mcc
  
  
 
 You should not change 'encoding' after setting your maps; and if your vimrc's 
 'fileencoding' is not your 'encoding' then it ought to have a 
 :scriptencoding statement.
 
 Or else, you can encode it in 7-bit ASCII using Char-nn notation, e.g.
 
   exe noremap Char-196 }  |  LATIN CAPITAL A WITH DIAERESIS
   exe noremap Char-214 {  |  LATIN CAPITAL O WITH DIAERESIS
   exe noremap Char-228 ]  |  LATIN SMALL A WITH DIAERESIS
   exe noremap Char-246 [  |  LATIN SMALL O WITH DIAERESIS
 
 The above should work regardless of whether your 'encoding' is Latin1, UTF-8, 
 or (I think) cp1252; but if you use an 'encoding' different from your 
 locale 
 charset, you should still set 'encoding' first and define the mappings 
 afterwards. (I use :exe wrapping here to allow a comment on the same line.)
 
 Similarly:
   Ä   196 0xC4LATIN CAPITAL A WITH DIAERESIS
   Ö   214 0xD6LATIN CAPITAL O WITH DIAERESIS
   Ü   220 0xDCLATIN CAPITAL U WITH DIAERESIS
   ß   223 0xDFLATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S
   ä   228 0xE4LATIN SMALL A WITH DIAERESIS
   ö   246 0xF6LATIN SMALL O WITH DIAERESIS
   ü   252 0xFCLATIN SMALL U WITH DIAERESIS
 
 see
   :help Char
   :help :scriptencoding
   http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf
   etc.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Tony.
 

Hi Tony,

 :)

 What should I say? Thank you so much for your kind help, Tony!
 becomes a little boring to you in the meanwhile I think, doesn't it?
 :O)

 Probably it is a good idea starting to collect the Tony Files or an
 AI-help-feature for vim with command sequences like:

 :Tony I-have-an-edit-problem 

 or

 :Tony umlaut-not-working

 or

 :Tony your problem here

 
 For me as a still-vim-newbie it is often difficult to analyse the
 root of the problems I have with vim.
 But hopefully this will change one day.

 
 Boring or not: Thanks a lot for your kind help, Tony!!! :O)\+

 Keep hacking!
 mcc

 PS:
 There is still a question open to me, Tony...
 On a german keyboard you have to press Ctrl-AltGr-9 to jump to 
 a tag under the cursor, which is originally  Ctrl-].

 This again is bad finger-Yoga (at least for my fingers...;)

 This is one reason why I wanted used the umlauts in normalmode to act
 as [,],{ and } (no one needs gemran umaluts in normal mode,
 so I will loose nothing...)

 Unfortunately Ctrl-umlaut-a (umlaut-a is mapped to ] now...) does not
 work as tag-inator. Is this one of these
 certain-special-keys-cannot-be-used-in-mappings problem, is this due
 to the nnoremap (instead of nmap...), which forbids later
 re-remapping, do I have to remap this sepeartely or am I simply to
 stupid ? ;)

 Keep hacking II !
 mcc

 


Re: Mapping german umlauts

2006-10-08 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
[...]

 PS:
 There is still a question open to me, Tony...
 On a german keyboard you have to press Ctrl-AltGr-9 to jump to 
 a tag under the cursor, which is originally  Ctrl-].


 This again is bad finger-Yoga (at least for my fingers...;)

 This is one reason why I wanted used the umlauts in normalmode to act
 as [,],{ and } (no one needs gemran umaluts in normal mode,
 so I will loose nothing...)

 Unfortunately Ctrl-umlaut-a (umlaut-a is mapped to ] now...) does not
 work as tag-inator. Is this one of these
 certain-special-keys-cannot-be-used-in-mappings problem, is this due
 to the nnoremap (instead of nmap...), which forbids later
 re-remapping, do I have to remap this sepeartely or am I simply to
 stupid ? ;)

 Keep hacking II !
 mcc


Mapping something to ] doesn't map anything to Ctrl-], you have to do it 
separately.


On my Belgian keyboard on SUSE Linux, CTRL doesn't work with any nonalphabetic 
printable key (in particular, it doesn't work with ]). There are two solutions:


a) Use the mouse (double-clicking a help hyperlink activates it)

b) Use a mapping.

I use

:map F9 C-]

but of course you can use any {lhs} that suits you if you don't like F9. Since 
this key has no counterpart you might for instance map ß to it, since no one 
needs the eszett in Normal mode either.




Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Win32 build of updated gvim

2006-10-08 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Yongwei Wu wrote:
[...]

(maybe someone should
write a program to automatically update the runtime files?). [...]


How to update the runtime files is OS-dependent, but it is usually not much 
more than a one-liner. On my SuSE Linux system (with bash), I use


 cd ~/.build/vim/vim70
 rsync -avzcP --delete --exclude=/dos/ ftp.nluug.nl::Vim/runtime/ ./runtime/
 cd src
 make installruntime  ../inst_rt.log 21

(the important line is the second one; the third and fourth ones are not 
necessary if I compile immediately afterwards). Bill McCarthy (on Windows with 
4NT.EXE) uses


 copy /us ftp://ftp.home.vim.org/pub/vim/runtime/dos/*; c:\vim\vim70\

Method I should work on any Unix-like system, including Cygwin if rsync is 
installed. I don't know whether Method II works with CMD.EXE.



Best regards,
Tony.


number of folds in foldtext

2006-10-08 Thread Eric Smith

Is it possible for foldtext to show the number of the fold block.
For example there are n paragraphs in a document and folding is by expression
defined as a blank line.
I want the number of the paragraph to show in the foldtext.

Thanks

--
Eric Smith


Re: Changing printing colours

2006-10-08 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

[Adding Vim-list as Cc:]

Lowell Tackett wrote:

I have tried-unsuccessfully-any number of grand schemes to have my
printer produce syntax-colored Python scripts as displayed on my Vim
editor.  How simple it proved to be...just simply ':hardcopy'.  Wow! 
One problem, though.  I can't seem to reduce the font such that the

entire script will remain on the printed (standard letter size) page.
 All this effort is being hosted by my Linux (Mandrake 10.1) OS,
printing onto an Epson Stylus C86.  (Cups thinks it's a Stylus 'C84'.
 Closest I could get to an ID, but it works).  I do not get any
printer dialogs preceding the print command going to the printer.

Any help on this one would be greatly appreciated.  This morning's
breakthru-printing in syntax colors-is truly going into my diary as a
'life-altering' moment...

[...]

On Unix-like systems, printing from Vim uses PostScript and there is no 
dialog; but there are, among others, the 'printoptions' and 'printfont' 
options. The font face mentioned in 'printfont' is ignored on PostScript 
systems, but the size is used. To use an 8pt font instead of the usual 10pt, try


:set printfont=Courier:h8

If that gives an error, you may have to use the same format as for your 
particular Vim version's 'guifont', i.e.,


 if has(printer)
  if has(gui_gtk2)
   set pfn=Courier\ 8
  elseif has(gui_kde)
   set pfn=Courier/8/-1/5/50/0/0/0/1/0
  elseif has(unix)
   set pfn=*-Courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-80-*-*-m-*-*
  else
   set pfn=Courier:h8
  endif
 endif

Once you find something that works for you, write it into your vimrc.


Best regards,
Tony.


[Vim] Ada language Mode.

2006-10-08 Thread Martin Krischik
Hello,

I have created a new language mode for Ada [1] and would like anybody who
interested in Ada and Vim to comment on.

The new mode offers:

* Support for Ada 2005 keywords [2].
* Improved syntax highlight (Including all standart Pragmas and Attributes).
* User completion (Keyword, Pragmas, Attributes)
* Omni completions (using ctags or gnat xref).
* Tag search (using ctags or gnat xref).
* Unified Online help (One ada.txt for all).
* Compiler support for GNAT and Dec Ada (using an extensible OO-Design).
* Three different folding mechanisms.
* All function are autoload.
* Optimised for Vim 7

The aim is to replace the Ada language mode, which is currently part of the
standart runtime, with this new mode.

Martin

[1] http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1609
[2] http://www.adaic.org/standards/ada05.html
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mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com



Re: I cannot install gvim7.0

2006-10-08 Thread Zheng Da

On 10/2/06, Tom Purl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please reply to the list so that others can learn from our mistakes :)

I'm sorry. I didn't notice. I thought I had posted my letter to the list.


 I think it works.  But it's really surprising.  I run apt-get
 build-dep vim-gnome, then run ./configure the same result:checking
 --enable-gui argument... no GUI support.

You can also try the `apt-get build-dep` command with the following
Debian packages:

vim-gtk
vim-gui-common

 I removed the original source codes, and get a new one from
 vim-7.0-extra.tar.gz, vim-7.0-lang.tar.gz, vim-7.0.tar.bz2.

You should only require the last file in that list to compile gvim.

I need to use Chinese.


 Then I can compile vim with GUI.  By the way, I run ./configure
 without any arguments.

This is probably a *big* part of the reason why you can't compile gvim.
In order to compile GVIM, it was my understanding that you needed to use
some sort of GUI flag when executing the ./configuration step.  Try
running the following command in the future when compiling vim:

I didn't use any argument of configure, and could still compile gvim.


./configure --help | grep GUI

This will show you all of the GUI-related flags that you need to
consider when compiling gvim.

HTH!

Tom Purl

 On 10/2/06, Tom Purl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 12:42:52AM +0800, Zheng Da wrote:
  Hello.
  I try to install vim7.0
  But I can't install vim with GUI.
  It seems that configure automatically looks for a GUI, but it always
  tells no in my system.
  checking --enable-gui argument... no GUI support
  And I'm sure there isn't gvim in my system.
  I read src/INSTALL. It tells me that I need glib and gtk+ at least
  version 1.1.16, but below 2.0.
  I use Debian, and in my system, there are libgtk1.2, libgtk1.2-common,
  libgtk1.2-dev, libglib1.2, libglib1.2-dev.
  So what else do I need?
 
  --
  With regards
  Zheng Da

 I had this same problem, and I think that it was fixed by installing
 the xwindows dev libraries.  The output of ./configure told me what
 was missing from an X11 dev perspective.

 You might also want to try the following to install all of the
 compilation dependencies:

 sudo apt-get build-dep vim-gnome

 HTH!

 Tom Purl



 --
 With regards
 Zheng Da






--
With regards
Zheng Da


Re: [Vim] Ada language Mode.

2006-10-08 Thread Nikolai Weibull

On 10/8/06, Martin Krischik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I have created a new language mode for Ada [1] and would like anybody who
interested in Ada and Vim to comment on.


I'm not interested in the slightest, but I'll comment anyway.

Here's how to get your additions into the main Vim release:

Please get in contact with the current maintainer(s) of the file(s)
you intend to replace.  They'll either give maintainership to you, or
they'll integrate your additions into their file(s).  As it sounds
like you've maid considerable additions to the language mode, I'll
assume that they'll be glad to give you maintainership of the files.

Anyway, when that's been decided, get the maintainer(s) to contact
Bram to notify him of the changes in maintainership and send along the
new files.

 nikolai


Re: combining two mapping into one

2006-10-08 Thread Andy Wokula
A.J.Mechelynck schrieb:
 Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
 On Friday 06 October 2006 08:24, Andy Wokula wrote:
 Kamaraju Kusumanchi schrieb:
 I use two mappings for my Fortran (.f90) files

 map F5 Homev%zf
 map F6 HomezDv%zf

 The idea is to create folds for code blocks which are of the form

 subroutine some_name_here
statements_here
 end subroutine some_name_here

 Here F5 folds the subroutine block irrespective of whether there are
 any
 folds within it. F6 folds the subroutine block after deleting the
 existing folds.

 However, if there are no folds and if I press F6, I get an error saying
 that

 E490: No fold found

 Is it possible to combine these two maps into a single map such that
 1) If there are no existing folds, create a fold  (i.e. perform F5)
 2) If there are already some folds defined, then delete them and
 define a
 new fold (i.e. perform F6)

 Any ideas?

 thanks
 raju
 Some time ago I saw this:
 http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/tip.php?tip_id=1330

 Andy

 Thanks for the pointer. I tried
 nnoremap F5 @=((foldclosed(line('.'))  0) ? 'Homev%zfjj' :
 'HomezDv%zfjj')CR

 but it did not work due to Home. Dont know how to escape it
 properly. Any ideas? For now I am using

 nnoremap F5 @=((foldclosed(line('.'))  0) ? '1\|v%zfjj' : '1\|
 zDv%zfjj')CR

 but would like to use Home instead of 1\| since that would make the
 map more readable.

 thanks
 raju

 
 To use the Home key in an expression (as here), use a double-quoted
 string and a backslash-escape: \Home
 
 See the last item under :help expr-quote.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Tony.

Seems to be theory in this case, a mapping like
:nn f7 @=\homecr

results in an error:
=\
E15: Invalid expression: \

Nevertheless
:let home = \home
:nn f7 @=homecr

works.  Same for both GVim 6.4 and GVim 7.0 (no latest patches) on Win32.

Looks like a bug?!

Andy



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Re: combining two mapping into one

2006-10-08 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Andy Wokula wrote:

A.J.Mechelynck schrieb:

Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:

On Friday 06 October 2006 08:24, Andy Wokula wrote:

Kamaraju Kusumanchi schrieb:

I use two mappings for my Fortran (.f90) files

map F5 Homev%zf
map F6 HomezDv%zf

The idea is to create folds for code blocks which are of the form

subroutine some_name_here
   statements_here
end subroutine some_name_here

Here F5 folds the subroutine block irrespective of whether there are
any
folds within it. F6 folds the subroutine block after deleting the
existing folds.

However, if there are no folds and if I press F6, I get an error saying
that

E490: No fold found

Is it possible to combine these two maps into a single map such that
1) If there are no existing folds, create a fold  (i.e. perform F5)
2) If there are already some folds defined, then delete them and
define a
new fold (i.e. perform F6)

Any ideas?

thanks
raju

Some time ago I saw this:
http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/tip.php?tip_id=1330

Andy

Thanks for the pointer. I tried
nnoremap F5 @=((foldclosed(line('.'))  0) ? 'Homev%zfjj' :
'HomezDv%zfjj')CR

but it did not work due to Home. Dont know how to escape it
properly. Any ideas? For now I am using

nnoremap F5 @=((foldclosed(line('.'))  0) ? '1\|v%zfjj' : '1\|
zDv%zfjj')CR

but would like to use Home instead of 1\| since that would make the
map more readable.

thanks
raju


To use the Home key in an expression (as here), use a double-quoted
string and a backslash-escape: \Home

See the last item under :help expr-quote.


Best regards,
Tony.


Seems to be theory in this case, a mapping like
:nn f7 @=\homecr

results in an error:
=\
E15: Invalid expression: \

Nevertheless
:let home = \home
:nn f7 @=homecr

works.  Same for both GVim 6.4 and GVim 7.0 (no latest patches) on Win32.

Looks like a bug?!

Andy


The backslash is interpreted when storing the mapping, and then again when 
invoking it


In this case, you don't need @= at all

:mapF7  Home

:nnoremap F5 @=((foldclosed(line('.'))  0) ?
\ BslashltHomev%zfjj :
\ BslashltHomezDv%zfjj)CR

see :help :map-special-chars


Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Mapping german umlauts

2006-10-08 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping german umlauts
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:28:51 +0200

 Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
 [...]
   PS:
   There is still a question open to me, Tony...
   On a german keyboard you have to press Ctrl-AltGr-9 to jump to 
   a tag under the cursor, which is originally  Ctrl-].
  
   This again is bad finger-Yoga (at least for my fingers...;)
  
   This is one reason why I wanted used the umlauts in normalmode to act
   as [,],{ and } (no one needs gemran umaluts in normal mode,
   so I will loose nothing...)
  
   Unfortunately Ctrl-umlaut-a (umlaut-a is mapped to ] now...) does not
   work as tag-inator. Is this one of these
   certain-special-keys-cannot-be-used-in-mappings problem, is this due
   to the nnoremap (instead of nmap...), which forbids later
   re-remapping, do I have to remap this sepeartely or am I simply to
   stupid ? ;)
  
   Keep hacking II !
   mcc
 
 Mapping something to ] doesn't map anything to Ctrl-], you have to do it 
 separately.
 
 On my Belgian keyboard on SUSE Linux, CTRL doesn't work with any 
 nonalphabetic 
 printable key (in particular, it doesn't work with ]). There are two 
 solutions:
 
 a) Use the mouse (double-clicking a help hyperlink activates it)
 
 b) Use a mapping.
 
 I use
 
   :map F9 C-]
 
 but of course you can use any {lhs} that suits you if you don't like F9. 
 Since 
 this key has no counterpart you might for instance map ß to it, since no one 
 needs the eszett in Normal mode either.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 Tony.
 

Hi Tony,

 things are becoming better !
 Using the umlauts for {,[,] and } makes things a lot easier
 and far more convenient.

 But there are still things I dont understand...as always...sorry...

 I did the following:

   LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S
  noremap Char-252 C-]
   LATIN CAPITAL A WITH DIAERESIS
  noremap Char-196 }
   LATIN CAPITAL O WITH DIAERESIS
  noremap Char-214 {
   LATIN SMALL A WITH DIAERESIS
  noremap Char-228 ]
   LATIN SMALL O WITH DIAERESIS
  noremap Char-246 [

 which works in normal mode. In insert mode the umlauts appears as
 umlauts as it should be. But: WHY?

 If I understood the according help correctly noremap is a short
 form of no remap. And it is not bound to any mode -- and
 _n_noremap (for example) is bound to normal mode.

 Therefore (according to my obviously wrong logic...;) the above
 mapping would apply also to insert mode. But it does not (and it
 should not, since the umlauts are needed in insert).

 More mysteriously: Using nnoremap -- as I think it would make the
 above mappings only to apply in normal mode -- for the above mappings
 breaks everything: no {,[,] or } at the umlaut-keys in normal
 mode.

 The other thing what I tried was to map every ( every = what I
 could find and thought it would be nice to have ) combination of
 something and the {,[,],} to combinations with the umluat
 keys in the appropiate mode.

 I wrote:
  noremap Char-228-Char-228 ]]
  noremap Char-246-Char-246 [[
  noremap Char-246-Char-228 []
  noremap Char-228-Char-246 ][

 which works with the mysterious charme as described above as far as
 I could test it (normap - nnoremap)

 Then I did:
  vnoremap a-Char-246 a[
  vnoremap a-Char-228 a]
  vnoremap i-Char-246 i[
  vnoremap i-Char-228 i]
  vnoremap a-Char-214 a{
  vnoremap a-Char-196 a}
  vnoremap i-Char-214 i{
  vnoremap i-Char-196 i}

 for the motions in visual mode -- and it fails totally.

 Again I got stuck.

 Thanks a lot for any help in advance ! :O)

 Keep hacking!
 mcc
 

 


Re: copy a word without moving cursor

2006-10-08 Thread Charles E. Campbell, Jr.

Osho GG wrote:


Hi All,

I know this mustbe pretty simple but I can't figure this out. I want
to copy a word into a buffer without moving the cursor. Currently I do
something like

*ayw^O:nohCR

to get this effect. But, this seems like such a round about way to do
this. Is there a simpler way to achieve this?



:let @a= expand(cword)

Regards,
Chip Campbell