RE: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi TRon,

 

Once you started a call the Speakerphone button is there towards the top of
the screen. If I put my finger on the edge of the phone on or just below the
volume down button and then touch the screen in the middle at about that
level I am right on it. You can also touch just up from the home key and
find the End Call button and then swipe left I think twice. First one is for
the DialPad and then I think it's Speakerphone. Voicreover will say
Speakerphone is Off button and if you double tap it and check again it
will say Speakerphone is On button.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

I can't seem to find the speaker button so I don't have to hold the phone up
to my ear. Do you know where I can find that?

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

 

Hello List,

 

Just thought I post a quick message about this. Skype was updated for me
this morning. First of all, Voiceover accessibility is, as far as I can
tell, fully there. However, the interface is completely different and will
need a bit of getting used to. Having said this, I really like what I have
seen so far.

 

For one thing, the app loads super fast and this is something that is
mentioned in the What's new.

The first time I opened it after the update a video started playing. I let
it play and after maybe 15 or 20 seconds it stopped and I had a Skip Video
button.

Once I was in the app I noticed that now there are 2 buttons, one on the top
left called the Skype Home button and another at the top right called My
Info, Online button. If I double tap this I have a Back button at the top
left and then a nice summary of everything related to my status and account:

 

First my name

Then a Change Profile Picture button

Next a place where I can enter a mood message.

Then the status button where I can change it from Online to Away, Offline
and so on.

Next is my Skype credit and if I double tap it I can quickly add $4.99 via
an in-app purchase.

Lastly is a My Account button, a Settings button and a More button.

In Settings I can turn on or off push notifications, in-app notifications
and in-app sounds.

Under More I have buttons for Help, About, Send Feedback and Sign Out.

 

Underneath the top where I find these 2 buttons I have now 3 items in one
row:

 

Recents, Favorites and People

 

The order of these 3 items changes, Voiceover doesn't say they are buttons
or links, but you can double tap on them and whichever one you double tap on
moves to the very left.

 

Favorites is new and for me it's empty since I haven't added any Favorites
yet.

 

People gives me all my contacts. If you double tap it you have a search
field to look for somebody and there is also a table index on the right.
Between the search field and the top of your list starting with A is a
button which Voiceover announces as All. This means all your contacts are
displayed and if you double tap on this button you can choose between All
and Online. Here I have to do some more exploring because in the old Skype
you could tap on lists and select from All contacts, Skype Contacts, Online
Contacts, Saved Phone Numbers and also bring up your iPhone Contacts. I
currently don't see this any more and while All contains all you have in
Skype including regular Skype contacts whether they are online or offline as
well as saved phone numbers, one apparently can't filter by this any more.

 

At the bottom of the screen are a few buttons and they may change depending
on where you are. If you are in your People view you have buttons for
DialPad, Message and More.

 

One thing which is fantastic is that the DialPad now works in touch typing
mode even when you are on a call and bring up the DialPad to enter numbers
during your call.

In the past only the main DialPad where you would dial your phone number
would work in touch typing mode and you still had to double or split tap the
DialPad for entering numbers during a call.

I think this makes Skype the only Voip app where touch typing on the DialPad
is fully supported.

 

OK, that's about it for now. The main thing is that Voiceover accessibility
is still as good as ever and it's safe to update.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Deleting a contact on Skype

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

To remove a contact do the following:

1. double tap on the contact either in the People, Favourites or Recents
view. 
2. Double tap on More at the bottom right.
3. Double tap on Block
4. From the next screen you can select to Block or Block and Remove the
contact from your list. There is also a No option if you changed your
mind.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: Deleting a contact on Skype

How do I delete a contact I no long associate with on Skype? I don't see a
way to do it on the new Skype either. I tried the flick up thing to no
avail.

Thank you so much!

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Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello List,

 

I did a bit of checking on various Skype forums and there is currently
indeed no way to clear/delete chat history, recent calls and so on. In one
thread somebody from Skype replied to many rather unhappy messages that they
are looking to bring this back in a future update.

 

One thing that works nicely is to swipe between People, Recents and
Favorites instead of finding the buttons at the top. You can double tap and
hold either on the left side of the phone and swipe across to the right
after the triple tone or double tap and hold on the right and swipe across
to the left. This will smoothly and seamlessly move between screens, just
touch the screen after to see if you are in People, Recents or Favorites.

 

For those who didn't see my previous post as to how you can remove contacts,
here it is again:

 

1.   Double tap on the contact you want to remove

2.   Double tap on the More button at the bottom right

3.   Double tap on the Block button from the menu which pops up (the
other option is Add to Favorites

4.   In the next menu you have the options Block, Block and Remove
and No (the latter is if you change your mind and want to do nothing).

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

2014-06-14 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I tried to use the new skype on my iPad and when I connected a call the volume 
immediately bottomed out and I could not get it back to the volume level I had 
before the update.  Now I'll have to see if I can move back to the earlier 
version. 

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ron Pelletier 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 6:37 PM
  Subject: RE: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface


  Hi Sieghard,

   

  I can't seem to find the speaker button so I don't have to hold the phone up 
to my ear. Do you know where I can find that?

   

  Ron  Danvers

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:57 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

   

  Hello List,

   

  Just thought I post a quick message about this. Skype was updated for me this 
morning. First of all, Voiceover accessibility is, as far as I can tell, fully 
there. However, the interface is completely different and will need a bit of 
getting used to. Having said this, I really like what I have seen so far.

   

  For one thing, the app loads super fast and this is something that is 
mentioned in the What's new.

  The first time I opened it after the update a video started playing. I let it 
play and after maybe 15 or 20 seconds it stopped and I had a Skip Video 
button.

  Once I was in the app I noticed that now there are 2 buttons, one on the top 
left called the Skype Home button and another at the top right called My 
Info, Online button. If I double tap this I have a Back button at the top left 
and then a nice summary of everything related to my status and account:

   

  First my name

  Then a Change Profile Picture button

  Next a place where I can enter a mood message.

  Then the status button where I can change it from Online to Away, Offline and 
so on.

  Next is my Skype credit and if I double tap it I can quickly add $4.99 via an 
in-app purchase.

  Lastly is a My Account button, a Settings button and a More button.

  In Settings I can turn on or off push notifications, in-app notifications and 
in-app sounds.

  Under More I have buttons for Help, About, Send Feedback and Sign Out.

   

  Underneath the top where I find these 2 buttons I have now 3 items in one row:

   

  Recents, Favorites and People

   

  The order of these 3 items changes, Voiceover doesn't say they are buttons or 
links, but you can double tap on them and whichever one you double tap on moves 
to the very left.

   

  Favorites is new and for me it's empty since I haven't added any Favorites 
yet.

   

  People gives me all my contacts. If you double tap it you have a search field 
to look for somebody and there is also a table index on the right. Between the 
search field and the top of your list starting with A is a button which 
Voiceover announces as All. This means all your contacts are displayed and if 
you double tap on this button you can choose between All and Online. Here I 
have to do some more exploring because in the old Skype you could tap on lists 
and select from All contacts, Skype Contacts, Online Contacts, Saved Phone 
Numbers and also bring up your iPhone Contacts. I currently don't see this any 
more and while All contains all you have in Skype including regular Skype 
contacts whether they are online or offline as well as saved phone numbers, one 
apparently can't filter by this any more.

   

  At the bottom of the screen are a few buttons and they may change depending 
on where you are. If you are in your People view you have buttons for 
DialPad, Message and More.

   

  One thing which is fantastic is that the DialPad now works in touch typing 
mode even when you are on a call and bring up the DialPad to enter numbers 
during your call.

  In the past only the main DialPad where you would dial your phone number 
would work in touch typing mode and you still had to double or split tap the 
DialPad for entering numbers during a call.

  I think this makes Skype the only Voip app where touch typing on the DialPad 
is fully supported.

   

  OK, that's about it for now. The main thing is that Voiceover accessibility 
is still as good as ever and it's safe to update.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

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spotlight on iPad

2014-06-14 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Has anyone been having problems with their bluetooth keyboard while typing 
in the search field of spotlight search?  When I type in there the keys I 
type are duplicated.  This only happens in spotlight search and only on my 
iPad.  I can open spotlight search on my iPhone 5s and not have a problem at 
all.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

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Re: Moving By Line

2014-06-14 Thread Arnold Schmidt
As others have pointed out, it is flicking up and down that moves from line to 
line.  But you have to be sure you are going  up and down absolutely straight, 
even a slight angle from straight up and down will throw it off and cause it to 
lose focus.  This seems even more sensitive in IOS 7, than it was in 6.

Arnold Schmidt  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Duck 
  To: iPhone List 
  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:01 PM
  Subject: Moving By Line


  Hi,

  I have noticed that when I move by line with Voice Over, I sometimes get 
inconsistent results.  It might say nothing at places where there is content or 
often it will skip content entirely.  For example, I might be flicking down on 
a webpage and pass a line that I want to review but when I flick back up it is 
no longer there and I have to try to find it again.  It is as though VO is 
losing its place.  I have noticed this on the internet and in my bible app.  
This happens on my iPhone 4s and my iPad 3, both running latest version of 
IOS7.  I don't think it happens in edit fields.  Has anyone else noticed this 
and is there a work around?

  Thanks,

  Scott Duck


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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread Gary Petraccaro

And how do we adapt to stereo remotes with touchscreens?
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


I enjoyed reading your response.

Regarding the touchscreen, hand/ear coordination (haptic / auditory) 
coordination is often difficult for blind people to master. This appears to 
be because blind people are taught haptic / haptic response coordination. In 
other words blind people are taught to touch and feel for a tactile 
response. Sighted people, on the other hand, utilise haptic / visual 
response. Considering that touchscreen technology is now more expensive than 
non-touch screen with physical buttons, this interface is, and will 
continue, replacing the older, haptic rich environment. In fact, for the 
sighted, in every category / venue studied thus far, directly interactive 
touchscreen technology kiosks and devices reduce errors from 15%-20% to 
3%-5%. So, it becomes incumbent upon us blind people to adapt if we wish to 
continue fully participate in modern society.


As to battery life of the iPhone, if the person were to use the iPhone the 
way they used to use the Nokia Phone, Windows CE Phone, and/or simple and 
inexpensive dumb phone with limited accessibility, they would find 
themselves getting similar levels of battery life. When I switched to my 
iPhone, I noticed a marked decrease in battery life from 3 or 4 days to just 
over a day. I wondered about it, so switched back to the previous phone for 
a week. I took note of what I did and how much time I spent on each system. 
I then used the iPhone in the same way as the older phone, and got 4 days of 
battery life. Personally, I prefer using my iPhone as my portable computer. 
It provides me with unparalleled access across technology sectors.


As for using the phone keypad, when one trains one's muscle memory to the 
locations of the numbers on the keypad, dialling can and does become 
significantly quicker. That said, practice is essential.


As for the battery life of certain blindness specific products, I prefer the 
much increased access and higher technology of the accessible general market 
hitech solutions. I can do much more for a greatly reduced price.


As to the frustration of learning yet another interface, in the case of the 
iPhone, or Android Phones for that matter, it does take longer because, not 
only is a person learning the interface, each blind individual is having to 
learn an entirely new way of interacting that he/she was never trained for 
when initially learning blindness skills. Therefore, the teachers of 
blindness skills should start teaching haptic/auditory response in order to 
enable better / more efficient adaptation for the blind into the modern 
technological world.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Jun 2014, at 17:38, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:


Here is the article which I have just published to my blog.

My comments on the Braille Monitor Article concerning the iPhone
Comment on My comments on the Braille Monitor Article concerning the 
iPhone
the June 2014 edition of the Braille Monitor contained an article by 
Curtis Chong titled Knowing what Is Good about the iPhone and What is 
Not.I was intrigued by the title. I have to admit that I've become quite 
the Apple fanboy of late and I would have a very difficult time in coming 
up with a list of ten objections or things which are not good about the 
iPhone. In fact, I'm having a very difficult time in coming up with a list 
of one or two things which are not good about the iPhone. However, no 
product is perfect and I can handle objectively written product 
evaluations. Unfortunately, this article was not one of them. I'm going to 
reprint each of the objections stated by Mr. Chong in their entirety, with 
my comments below each objection.

What Is Not Good About The iPhone
1. If you don't want to pay for a data plan, the iPhone has no option for 
that. A data plan will cost you about twenty dollars a month. You need a 
data plan for the iPhone to be able to communicate over the Internet.
Response: you need to pay for a monthly plan to get anything on the 
Internet. If a consumer already has an Internet connection in his home, he 
can buy an iPod Touch or an iPad. These devices run iOS and don't require 
an additional monthly data plan. The fact is that any computer or device 
that accesses the Internet is usually going to require you to pay for some 
sort of access plan.
2. It is very inefficient to make a simple phone call with the iPhone, 
particularly if you don't have a person in your contacts list. You can 
dial a phone number that you know much more quickly with a keypad that has 
real, physical buttons.
Response: not at all. You can simply press the home button and command 

Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Thanks for the link.  I don't know about the typing speed vs. keyboard 
speed, but the article seems accurate to me, with the exception of 2 
negatives he left out--the access to keys if a phone call leaves one in a 
menu, and the 911 issue.


- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


Here is a link: 
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm14/bm1406/bm140608.htm


On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:


Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article covering 
the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it would 
be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things which are 
not good about the iPhone but this article supposedly did just that.  I 
plan to write a detailed blog post in the coming week with my responses to 
the ten objections but I'll just say that it's one of the most 
irresponsible pieces of journalism I've ever read from that magazine. 
Please, understand that this is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any 
other organization or even a criticism of the Monitor.  However, the piece 
infuriated me because the NFB is a highly influential organization and 
many of its members and readers of the Monitor will take the article 
seriously just because it comes from a nationally recognized blindness 
organization.  My fear is that many people may read this article and will 
be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to things which the article claims 
are not good about the device.

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RE: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
There is not yet a new iPad version. I assume maybe you installed the iPhone
version on your iPad? The Skype forums state that Microsoft is still working
on a new version for the iPad.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

 

I tried to use the new skype on my iPad and when I connected a call the
volume immediately bottomed out and I could not get it back to the volume
level I had before the update.  Now I'll have to see if I can move back to
the earlier version. 


If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message - 

From: Ron Pelletier mailto:ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 6:37 PM

Subject: RE: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

I can't seem to find the speaker button so I don't have to hold the phone up
to my ear. Do you know where I can find that?

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: All new Skype update with major changes to the user interface

 

Hello List,

 

Just thought I post a quick message about this. Skype was updated for me
this morning. First of all, Voiceover accessibility is, as far as I can
tell, fully there. However, the interface is completely different and will
need a bit of getting used to. Having said this, I really like what I have
seen so far.

 

For one thing, the app loads super fast and this is something that is
mentioned in the What's new.

The first time I opened it after the update a video started playing. I let
it play and after maybe 15 or 20 seconds it stopped and I had a Skip Video
button.

Once I was in the app I noticed that now there are 2 buttons, one on the top
left called the Skype Home button and another at the top right called My
Info, Online button. If I double tap this I have a Back button at the top
left and then a nice summary of everything related to my status and account:

 

First my name

Then a Change Profile Picture button

Next a place where I can enter a mood message.

Then the status button where I can change it from Online to Away, Offline
and so on.

Next is my Skype credit and if I double tap it I can quickly add $4.99 via
an in-app purchase.

Lastly is a My Account button, a Settings button and a More button.

In Settings I can turn on or off push notifications, in-app notifications
and in-app sounds.

Under More I have buttons for Help, About, Send Feedback and Sign Out.

 

Underneath the top where I find these 2 buttons I have now 3 items in one
row:

 

Recents, Favorites and People

 

The order of these 3 items changes, Voiceover doesn't say they are buttons
or links, but you can double tap on them and whichever one you double tap on
moves to the very left.

 

Favorites is new and for me it's empty since I haven't added any Favorites
yet.

 

People gives me all my contacts. If you double tap it you have a search
field to look for somebody and there is also a table index on the right.
Between the search field and the top of your list starting with A is a
button which Voiceover announces as All. This means all your contacts are
displayed and if you double tap on this button you can choose between All
and Online. Here I have to do some more exploring because in the old Skype
you could tap on lists and select from All contacts, Skype Contacts, Online
Contacts, Saved Phone Numbers and also bring up your iPhone Contacts. I
currently don't see this any more and while All contains all you have in
Skype including regular Skype contacts whether they are online or offline as
well as saved phone numbers, one apparently can't filter by this any more.

 

At the bottom of the screen are a few buttons and they may change depending
on where you are. If you are in your People view you have buttons for
DialPad, Message and More.

 

One thing which is fantastic is that the DialPad now works in touch typing
mode even when you are on a call and bring up the DialPad to enter numbers
during your call.

In the past only the main DialPad where you would dial your phone number
would work in touch typing mode and you still had to double or split tap the
DialPad for entering numbers during a call.

I think this makes Skype the only Voip app where touch typing on the DialPad
is fully supported.

 

OK, that's about it for now. The main thing is that Voiceover accessibility
is still as good as ever and it's safe to update.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread David Chittenden
We wait for the stereo systems which work with network control systems, like 
Sonos, and we continue encouraging the app developers of such systems to make 
the remote apps as accessible as possible. Fortunately, Apple is adding home 
remote support systems into iOS 8. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Jun 2014, at 21:30, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And how do we adapt to stereo remotes with touchscreens?
 - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:38 AM
 Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone
 
 
 I enjoyed reading your response.
 
 Regarding the touchscreen, hand/ear coordination (haptic / auditory) 
 coordination is often difficult for blind people to master. This appears to 
 be because blind people are taught haptic / haptic response coordination. In 
 other words blind people are taught to touch and feel for a tactile response. 
 Sighted people, on the other hand, utilise haptic / visual response. 
 Considering that touchscreen technology is now more expensive than non-touch 
 screen with physical buttons, this interface is, and will continue, replacing 
 the older, haptic rich environment. In fact, for the sighted, in every 
 category / venue studied thus far, directly interactive touchscreen 
 technology kiosks and devices reduce errors from 15%-20% to 3%-5%. So, it 
 becomes incumbent upon us blind people to adapt if we wish to continue fully 
 participate in modern society.
 
 As to battery life of the iPhone, if the person were to use the iPhone the 
 way they used to use the Nokia Phone, Windows CE Phone, and/or simple and 
 inexpensive dumb phone with limited accessibility, they would find themselves 
 getting similar levels of battery life. When I switched to my iPhone, I 
 noticed a marked decrease in battery life from 3 or 4 days to just over a 
 day. I wondered about it, so switched back to the previous phone for a week. 
 I took note of what I did and how much time I spent on each system. I then 
 used the iPhone in the same way as the older phone, and got 4 days of battery 
 life. Personally, I prefer using my iPhone as my portable computer. It 
 provides me with unparalleled access across technology sectors.
 
 As for using the phone keypad, when one trains one's muscle memory to the 
 locations of the numbers on the keypad, dialling can and does become 
 significantly quicker. That said, practice is essential.
 
 As for the battery life of certain blindness specific products, I prefer the 
 much increased access and higher technology of the accessible general market 
 hitech solutions. I can do much more for a greatly reduced price.
 
 As to the frustration of learning yet another interface, in the case of the 
 iPhone, or Android Phones for that matter, it does take longer because, not 
 only is a person learning the interface, each blind individual is having to 
 learn an entirely new way of interacting that he/she was never trained for 
 when initially learning blindness skills. Therefore, the teachers of 
 blindness skills should start teaching haptic/auditory response in order to 
 enable better / more efficient adaptation for the blind into the modern 
 technological world.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 5 Jun 2014, at 17:38, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Here is the article which I have just published to my blog.
 
 My comments on the Braille Monitor Article concerning the iPhone
 Comment on My comments on the Braille Monitor Article concerning the iPhone
 the June 2014 edition of the Braille Monitor contained an article by Curtis 
 Chong titled Knowing what Is Good about the iPhone and What is Not.I was 
 intrigued by the title. I have to admit that I've become quite the Apple 
 fanboy of late and I would have a very difficult time in coming up with a 
 list of ten objections or things which are not good about the iPhone. In 
 fact, I'm having a very difficult time in coming up with a list of one or 
 two things which are not good about the iPhone. However, no product is 
 perfect and I can handle objectively written product evaluations. 
 Unfortunately, this article was not one of them. I'm going to reprint each 
 of the objections stated by Mr. Chong in their entirety, with my comments 
 below each objection.
 What Is Not Good About The iPhone
 1. If you don't want to pay for a data plan, the iPhone has no option for 
 that. A data plan will cost you about twenty dollars a month. You need a 
 data plan for the iPhone to be able to communicate over the Internet.
 Response: you need to pay for a monthly plan to get anything on the 
 Internet. If a consumer already has an Internet connection in his home, he 
 can buy an iPod Touch or an iPad. These 

Re: spotlight on iPad

2014-06-14 Thread Tarapprakash
I dont use this app but it happens to me using safari on my iphone


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On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Has anyone been having problems with their bluetooth keyboard while typing 
 in the search field of spotlight search?  When I type in there the keys I 
 type are duplicated.  This only happens in spotlight search and only on my 
 iPad.  I can open spotlight search on my iPhone 5s and not have a problem at 
 all.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
 start?
 
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voiceover trying to read my Kindle book like a foreign language

2014-06-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I was happily reading along in a Kindle book with scrolling last night when 
suddenly the voice switched and started trying to read my Kindle book like it 
was a foreign language instead of English. It isn't a voice that sounds like 
anything on my rotor and I think it sounds kind of oriental. I tried closing 
Kindle and opening it again and I've tried turning the phone off and on; don't 
want to reset with home/power unless I have to. The only thing that fixes this 
is to change to a different voice in the language rotor. I use Austrailian 
English as my default and if I switch to U.S. English or British English, which 
are in my rotor, the foreign voice goes away and I can read. Even if I change 
to the Spanish voice in my rotor I hear the Spanish voice reading English like 
it's Spanish. The only voice in which the behavior occurs is when I am in my 
default language according to my voiceover setup. If I just touch the screen 
with my default voice selected, the English is read appropriately, but as soon 
as I do the two-finger swipe down to read continuously, the other voice that 
isn't in my rotor starts up again. I am turning my rotor away from Language 
even though that voice is not in my rotor so this doesn't have anything to do 
with being in the language rotor. If I swipe down in my home screen this 
doesn't happen, just in uindle, though I haven't tried other apps. I can go on 
reading with Daniel or Samantha but I want to read with Karen and this is 
really griping me. The only other thing I can do is just turn off speech and 
read with my braille display. Any suggestions as to how I get Kindle to read 
with my default language voice instead of pretending it's a different language 
and bringing in some other voice?
Thanks.


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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
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Re: voiceover trying to read my Kindle book like a foreign language

2014-06-14 Thread Richard Turner
This sounds like it could be a bug with Karen or with the book, but I don't 
know why only that voice would bring it out.
I'd send the name of the book and where it happens in the book to both Apple 
accessibility and Amazon customer service with your explanation of the issue. 
It seems to me you've done everything I would have done, except the reboot, 
which I'd be surprised if that would make any difference.
Good luck,
Richard


Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo

 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:06 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I was happily reading along in a Kindle book with scrolling last night when 
 suddenly the voice switched and started trying to read my Kindle book like it 
 was a foreign language instead of English. It isn't a voice that sounds like 
 anything on my rotor and I think it sounds kind of oriental. I tried closing 
 Kindle and opening it again and I've tried turning the phone off and on; 
 don't want to reset with home/power unless I have to. The only thing that 
 fixes this is to change to a different voice in the language rotor. I use 
 Austrailian English as my default and if I switch to U.S. English or British 
 English, which are in my rotor, the foreign voice goes away and I can read. 
 Even if I change to the Spanish voice in my rotor I hear the Spanish voice 
 reading English like it's Spanish. The only voice in which the behavior 
 occurs is when I am in my default language according to my voiceover setup. 
 If I just touch the screen with my default voice selected, the English is 
 read appropriately, but as soon as I do the two-finger swipe down to read 
 continuously, the other voice that isn't in my rotor starts up again. I am 
 turning my rotor away from Language even though that voice is not in my rotor 
 so this doesn't have anything to do with being in the language rotor. If I 
 swipe down in my home screen this doesn't happen, just in uindle, though I 
 haven't tried other apps. I can go on reading with Daniel or Samantha but I 
 want to read with Karen and this is really griping me. The only other thing I 
 can do is just turn off speech and read with my braille display. Any 
 suggestions as to how I get Kindle to read with my default language voice 
 instead of pretending it's a different language and bringing in some other 
 voice?
 Thanks.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
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Re: voiceover trying to read my Kindle book like a foreign language

2014-06-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I went to the next page and the behavior stopped. It was a notes page at the 
end of the chapter so maybe something on that page triggered it.


 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 This sounds like it could be a bug with Karen or with the book, but I don't 
 know why only that voice would bring it out.
 I'd send the name of the book and where it happens in the book to both Apple 
 accessibility and Amazon customer service with your explanation of the issue. 
 It seems to me you've done everything I would have done, except the reboot, 
 which I'd be surprised if that would make any difference.
 Good luck,
 Richard
 
 
 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo
 
  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:06 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I was happily reading along in a Kindle book with scrolling last night when 
 suddenly the voice switched and started trying to read my Kindle book like 
 it was a foreign language instead of English. It isn't a voice that sounds 
 like anything on my rotor and I think it sounds kind of oriental. I tried 
 closing Kindle and opening it again and I've tried turning the phone off and 
 on; don't want to reset with home/power unless I have to. The only thing 
 that fixes this is to change to a different voice in the language rotor. I 
 use Austrailian English as my default and if I switch to U.S. English or 
 British English, which are in my rotor, the foreign voice goes away and I 
 can read. Even if I change to the Spanish voice in my rotor I hear the 
 Spanish voice reading English like it's Spanish. The only voice in which the 
 behavior occurs is when I am in my default language according to my 
 voiceover setup. If I just touch the screen with my default voice selected, 
 the English is read appropriately, but as soon as I do the two-finger swipe 
 down to read continuously, the other voice that isn't in my rotor starts up 
 again. I am turning my rotor away from Language even though that voice is 
 not in my rotor so this doesn't have anything to do with being in the 
 language rotor. If I swipe down in my home screen this doesn't happen, just 
 in uindle, though I haven't tried other apps. I can go on reading with 
 Daniel or Samantha but I want to read with Karen and this is really griping 
 me. The only other thing I can do is just turn off speech and read with my 
 braille display. Any suggestions as to how I get Kindle to read with my 
 default language voice instead of pretending it's a different language and 
 bringing in some other voice?
 Thanks.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
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Re: voiceover trying to read my Kindle book like a foreign language

2014-06-14 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
There may have been something on page written in another language. One letter 
in a non-European language is enough to activate the relevant voice until it's 
reached. Then it switches back. It's an annoying bug in the last release of 
iOS. Does this make sense?

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

On 14 Jun 2014, at 16:42, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

I went to the next page and the behavior stopped. It was a notes page at the 
end of the chapter so maybe something on that page triggered it.


 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 This sounds like it could be a bug with Karen or with the book, but I don't 
 know why only that voice would bring it out.
 I'd send the name of the book and where it happens in the book to both Apple 
 accessibility and Amazon customer service with your explanation of the issue. 
 It seems to me you've done everything I would have done, except the reboot, 
 which I'd be surprised if that would make any difference.
 Good luck,
 Richard
 
 
 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo
 
  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:06 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I was happily reading along in a Kindle book with scrolling last night when 
 suddenly the voice switched and started trying to read my Kindle book like 
 it was a foreign language instead of English. It isn't a voice that sounds 
 like anything on my rotor and I think it sounds kind of oriental. I tried 
 closing Kindle and opening it again and I've tried turning the phone off and 
 on; don't want to reset with home/power unless I have to. The only thing 
 that fixes this is to change to a different voice in the language rotor. I 
 use Austrailian English as my default and if I switch to U.S. English or 
 British English, which are in my rotor, the foreign voice goes away and I 
 can read. Even if I change to the Spanish voice in my rotor I hear the 
 Spanish voice reading English like it's Spanish. The only voice in which the 
 behavior occurs is when I am in my default language according to my 
 voiceover setup. If I just touch the screen with my default voice selected, 
 the English is read appropriately, but as soon as I do the two-finger swipe 
 down to read continuously, the other voice that isn't in my rotor starts up 
 again. I am turning my rotor away from Language even though that voice is 
 not in my rotor so this doesn't have anything to do with being in the 
 language rotor. If I swipe down in my home screen this doesn't happen, just 
 in uindle, though I haven't tried other apps. I can go on reading with 
 Daniel or Samantha but I want to read with Karen and this is really griping 
 me. The only other thing I can do is just turn off speech and read with my 
 braille display. Any suggestions as to how I get Kindle to read with my 
 default language voice instead of pretending it's a different language and 
 bringing in some other voice?
 Thanks.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
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A question about the life proof cases

2014-06-14 Thread Casey

Hi for those that have the iPhone 5.
Are any of you using the life proof case and how do you like it?
What made you select that case over the otter box cases and witch model 
of life proof do you have?
Also is it heard to hear voice over and or any other sounds that you are 
playing on the phone when you have it in that case?



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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
I certainly wouldn't have a problem using a touch screen on anything, as long 
as it had speech or some other feedback. For most remotes, that would beat 
pushing buttons and hoping they do what the manual seems to indicate in its PDF 
version.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And how do we adapt to stereo remotes with touchscreens?
 - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:38 AM
 Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone
 
 
 I enjoyed reading your response.
 
 Regarding the touchscreen, hand/ear coordination (haptic / auditory) 
 coordination is often difficult for blind people to master. This appears to 
 be because blind people are taught haptic / haptic response coordination. In 
 other words blind people are taught to touch and feel for a tactile response. 
 Sighted people, on the other hand, utilise haptic / visual response. 
 Considering that touchscreen technology is now more expensive than non-touch 
 screen with physical buttons, this interface is, and will continue, replacing 
 the older, haptic rich environment. In fact, for the sighted, in every 
 category / venue studied thus far, directly interactive touchscreen 
 technology kiosks and devices reduce errors from 15%-20% to 3%-5%. So, it 
 becomes incumbent upon us blind people to adapt if we wish to continue fully 
 participate in modern society.
 
 As to battery life of the iPhone, if the person were to use the iPhone the 
 way they used to use the Nokia Phone, Windows CE Phone, and/or simple and 
 inexpensive dumb phone with limited accessibility, they would find themselves 
 getting similar levels of battery life. When I switched to my iPhone, I 
 noticed a marked decrease in battery life from 3 or 4 days to just over a 
 day. I wondered about it, so switched back to the previous phone for a week. 
 I took note of what I did and how much time I spent on each system. I then 
 used the iPhone in the same way as the older phone, and got 4 days of battery 
 life. Personally, I prefer using my iPhone as my portable computer. It 
 provides me with unparalleled access across technology sectors.
 
 As for using the phone keypad, when one trains one's muscle memory to the 
 locations of the numbers on the keypad, dialling can and does become 
 significantly quicker. That said, practice is essential.
 
 As for the battery life of certain blindness specific products, I prefer the 
 much increased access and higher technology of the accessible general market 
 hitech solutions. I can do much more for a greatly reduced price.
 
 As to the frustration of learning yet another interface, in the case of the 
 iPhone, or Android Phones for that matter, it does take longer because, not 
 only is a person learning the interface, each blind individual is having to 
 learn an entirely new way of interacting that he/she was never trained for 
 when initially learning blindness skills. Therefore, the teachers of 
 blindness skills should start teaching haptic/auditory response in order to 
 enable better / more efficient adaptation for the blind into the modern 
 technological world.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 5 Jun 2014, at 17:38, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Here is the article which I have just published to my blog.
 
 My comments on the Braille Monitor Article concerning the iPhone
 Comment on My comments on the Braille Monitor Article concerning the iPhone
 the June 2014 edition of the Braille Monitor contained an article by Curtis 
 Chong titled Knowing what Is Good about the iPhone and What is Not.I was 
 intrigued by the title. I have to admit that I've become quite the Apple 
 fanboy of late and I would have a very difficult time in coming up with a 
 list of ten objections or things which are not good about the iPhone. In 
 fact, I'm having a very difficult time in coming up with a list of one or 
 two things which are not good about the iPhone. However, no product is 
 perfect and I can handle objectively written product evaluations. 
 Unfortunately, this article was not one of them. I'm going to reprint each 
 of the objections stated by Mr. Chong in their entirety, with my comments 
 below each objection.
 What Is Not Good About The iPhone
 1. If you don't want to pay for a data plan, the iPhone has no option for 
 that. A data plan will cost you about twenty dollars a month. You need a 
 data plan for the iPhone to be able to communicate over the Internet.
 Response: you need to pay for a monthly plan to get anything on the 
 Internet. If a consumer already has an Internet connection in his home, he 
 can buy an iPod Touch or an iPad. These devices run iOS and don't require an 
 additional monthly data plan. The fact is that any 

RE: A question about the life proof cases

2014-06-14 Thread Lois Butterfield
Hi Casey,

I have an iPhone 5, not 5S, and I got the life-proof case because I wanted a
water-proof case for rowing.  

It does muffle the voice a bit.  You should have the phone face down for
best sound.  I have talked to many while it was in the case, and even my
friend with quite a hearing deficit had no problem understanding me.

I bought the belt clip and armband with it, so it added up to quite an
investment.

I only put it in that case if I'm going out on the water.  For every day, I
use a minimal clear TPU case.

Take care,
Lois


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Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question about the life proof cases

Hi for those that have the iPhone 5.
Are any of you using the life proof case and how do you like it?
What made you select that case over the otter box cases and witch model 
of life proof do you have?
Also is it heard to hear voice over and or any other sounds that you are 
playing on the phone when you have it in that case?


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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread Cara Quinn
Gary, what is the 911 issue?

Perhaps you can share a bit more detail here?

thank you so much!

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On Jun 14, 2014, at 2:22 AM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the link.  I don't know about the typing speed vs. keyboard speed, 
but the article seems accurate to me, with the exception of 2 negatives he left 
out--the access to keys if a phone call leaves one in a menu, and the 911 issue.

- Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


Here is a link: 
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm14/bm1406/bm140608.htm

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article covering the 
 supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it would be very 
 difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things which are not good 
 about the iPhone but this article supposedly did just that.  I plan to write 
 a detailed blog post in the coming week with my responses to the ten 
 objections but I'll just say that it's one of the most irresponsible pieces 
 of journalism I've ever read from that magazine. Please, understand that this 
 is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any other organization or even a 
 criticism of the Monitor.  However, the piece infuriated me because the NFB 
 is a highly influential organization and many of its members and readers of 
 the Monitor will take the article seriously just because it comes from a 
 nationally recognized blindness organization.  My fear is that many people 
 may read this article and will be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to 
 things which the article claims are not good about the device.
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Re: Cooking thermometers.

2014-06-14 Thread Steve
Yes, you can leave the probes in the meat.  They're linked via bluetooth to 
your phone so you can watch the temperature or just wait for the preset 
alarm to sound.


If you leave the probes in and you need to turn the meat, you will need good 
oven-proof gloves to extract the probes as they get extremely hot, 
obviously.


Stevew
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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: Cooking thermometers.


Can you leave the probe in the meat until you are done grilling?

Ed

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Subject: Re: Cooking thermometers.

Get the iGrill; you can set two different probes and have it warn you or you
can monitor the temp via the iPhone.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Cooking thermometers.


I would love to know if any work well. I am starting to experiment
with smoking meat and they would really be helpful.

On 6/9/14, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

Yesterday while looking for something on the web I came across several
thermometers for grilling/bbqing. Most were priced under $50 and available
from amazon. I know there has been some interest in this topic in the past
however I feel it is worth noting that now, several different cooking
thermometers are available for food preparation on your grill.


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RE: Amazon app now inaccessible?

2014-06-14 Thread Bill Holton
Version 3.5.1 no longer allows the scrub to move back.  The headings are all 
“no header back icon,”” “no header no header cart icon,” and such, and they 
tend to move around the screen, and on some screens are very difficult to find. 
 At the top, but four finger tap does not always bring them to you.  You are 
also presented with a lot more recommended for you products and sale items, 
whether you want them or not.  The first time I used the app I got caught in an 
Xbox sale screen and it took me awhile to find my way out.  

 

Not quite inaccessible, but as I said, not very pretty, either. 

 

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Gmail
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon app now inaccessible?

 

Could you give us more information? Which Amazon app is this? I know they've 
put out a few, so I'm just wondering. Also, what app version is this?

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


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Hi.

I just got an Amazon app updated, and it’s not pretty.

 

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Re: A question about the life proof cases

2014-06-14 Thread alberto
Hi, I have one of those cases, and I like it because it isn't as bulky, it is 
water proof, and seals the phone pretty well.
As for voice over it is kind of muffled do to a membrane that protects the 
speaker and mike.
On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:

 Hi for those that have the iPhone 5.
 Are any of you using the life proof case and how do you like it?
 What made you select that case over the otter box cases and witch model of 
 life proof do you have?
 Also is it heard to hear voice over and or any other sounds that you are 
 playing on the phone when you have it in that case?
 
 
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Re: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype

2014-06-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Sieghard, in your reading, have you found out whether integration with the 
iPhone contacts has gone or is inaccessible? Not being able to call your 
contacts from within Skype makes the app a lot less useful.
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On 14/06/2014, at 8:24 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hello List,
  
 I did a bit of checking on various Skype forums and there is currently indeed 
 no way to clear/delete chat history, recent calls and so on. In one thread 
 somebody from Skype replied to many rather unhappy messages that they are 
 looking to bring this back in a future update.
  
 One thing that works nicely is to swipe between People, Recents and Favorites 
 instead of finding the buttons at the top. You can double tap and hold either 
 on the left side of the phone and swipe across to the right after the triple 
 tone or double tap and hold on the right and swipe across to the left. This 
 will smoothly and seamlessly move between screens, just touch the screen 
 after to see if you are in People, Recents or Favorites.
  
 For those who didn't see my previous post as to how you can remove contacts, 
 here it is again:
  
 1.   Double tap on the contact you want to remove
 2.   Double tap on the More button at the bottom right
 3.   Double tap on the Block button from the menu which pops up (the 
 other option is Add to Favorites
 4.   In the next menu you have the options Block, Block and Remove 
 and No (the latter is if you change your mind and want to do nothing).
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 
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RE: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

2014-06-14 Thread DJ
That explains it.  Straight Talk doesn't have that option by default.

DJ 

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Subject: Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

I am running iOS 7.1 one with an iPhone five and I am on straight talk

Sent from my iPhone

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 What iPhone do you have, and what iOS are you running? My for S  running
7.1 has a hotspot built into it.
 
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Re: A question about the life proof cases

2014-06-14 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi,

I use this case for my iPhone 5 from time to time. It has been a very good 
case. It does muffle Voiceover just a little. I will admit that, but it is ten 
times less bulky than the other cases I have used. It's all a matter of 
preference.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 11:08 AM, alberto alberto.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, I have one of those cases, and I like it because it isn't as bulky, it is 
 water proof, and seals the phone pretty well.
 As for voice over it is kind of muffled do to a membrane that protects the 
 speaker and mike.
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi for those that have the iPhone 5.
 Are any of you using the life proof case and how do you like it?
 What made you select that case over the otter box cases and witch model of 
 life proof do you have?
 Also is it heard to hear voice over and or any other sounds that you are 
 playing on the phone when you have it in that case?
 
 
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Re: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype

2014-06-14 Thread Donna
Hi

I'm wondering this as well. I'm new to Skype. I have searched the app, but 
can't find a way to import my contacts. I have no time or patience to add my 
contacts individually. 

Donna

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi Sieghard, in your reading, have you found out whether integration with the 
 iPhone contacts has gone or is inaccessible? Not being able to call your 
 contacts from within Skype makes the app a lot less useful.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 14/06/2014, at 8:24 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello List,
  
 I did a bit of checking on various Skype forums and there is currently 
 indeed no way to clear/delete chat history, recent calls and so on. In one 
 thread somebody from Skype replied to many rather unhappy messages that they 
 are looking to bring this back in a future update.
  
 One thing that works nicely is to swipe between People, Recents and 
 Favorites instead of finding the buttons at the top. You can double tap and 
 hold either on the left side of the phone and swipe across to the right 
 after the triple tone or double tap and hold on the right and swipe across 
 to the left. This will smoothly and seamlessly move between screens, just 
 touch the screen after to see if you are in People, Recents or Favorites.
  
 For those who didn’t see my previous post as to how you can remove contacts, 
 here it is again:
  
 1.   Double tap on the contact you want to remove
 2.   Double tap on the “More” button at the bottom right
 3.   Double tap on the “Block” button from the menu which pops up (the 
 other option is “Add to Favorites”
 4.   In the next menu you have the options “Block”, “Block and Remove” 
 and “No” (the latter is if you change your mind and want to do nothing).
  
 Regards,
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Re: Amazon app now inaccessible?

2014-06-14 Thread Dave Sheridan
The no header back icon is your means to go back. 

Dave 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Jun 2014, at 17:16, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Version 3.5.1 no longer allows the scrub to move back.  The headings are all 
 “no header back icon,”” “no header no header cart icon,” and such, and they 
 tend to move around the screen, and on some screens are very difficult to 
 find.  At the top, but four finger tap does not always bring them to you.  
 You are also presented with a lot more recommended for you products and sale 
 items, whether you want them or not.  The first time I used the app I got 
 caught in an Xbox sale screen and it took me awhile to find my way out. 
  
 Not quite inaccessible, but as I said, not very pretty, either.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Gmail
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 5:04 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Amazon app now inaccessible?
  
 Could you give us more information? Which Amazon app is this? I know they've 
 put out a few, so I'm just wondering. Also, what app version is this?
  
  
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
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 Hi.
 I just got an Amazon app updated, and it’s not pretty.
  
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Skype and iPhone Contacts

2014-06-14 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

With regard to the question of how to add iPhone Contacts into the new Skype
app, I just went into my phone settings, to the privacy area.  I opened up
the Contacts section and, by default, Skypes access to my Contacts was
turned off.

For those who want Skype to have access to the iPHone's Contacts, which I do
not, have any of you checked to make sure this is turned on?  If so, what
happened?  

I am leaving mine set to off.

Mark
PS
Leave it to Microsoft to turn a first-rate app, into something (to put it
kindly) not first rate.

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Re: voiceover trying to read my Kindle book like a foreign language

2014-06-14 Thread David Chittenden
Actually, no, it is not a bug in either Kindle, the book, or VO. When the 
language is set to default language, any other language mark is read in that 
language by that language voice. Since it sounded like an Asian voice, there 
was most likely some sort of character mark in that particular language which 
the English voice could not pronounce. Therefore, when reading the page using 
another English voice, the funny symbol mark is not even attempted by VO.

If one flicks through all of the language choices in the rotor, one will find 
one's default language listed a second time without the words, default 
language, announced at the same time. With the language rotor set on this 
occurrance of one's language, VO will not change to other languages, and will 
read in the desired voice.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 15 Jun 2014, at 1:42, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I went to the next page and the behavior stopped. It was a notes page at the 
 end of the chapter so maybe something on that page triggered it.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 This sounds like it could be a bug with Karen or with the book, but I don't 
 know why only that voice would bring it out.
 I'd send the name of the book and where it happens in the book to both Apple 
 accessibility and Amazon customer service with your explanation of the 
 issue. It seems to me you've done everything I would have done, except the 
 reboot, which I'd be surprised if that would make any difference.
 Good luck,
 Richard
 
 
 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo
 
  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:06 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I was happily reading along in a Kindle book with scrolling last night when 
 suddenly the voice switched and started trying to read my Kindle book like 
 it was a foreign language instead of English. It isn't a voice that sounds 
 like anything on my rotor and I think it sounds kind of oriental. I tried 
 closing Kindle and opening it again and I've tried turning the phone off 
 and on; don't want to reset with home/power unless I have to. The only 
 thing that fixes this is to change to a different voice in the language 
 rotor. I use Austrailian English as my default and if I switch to U.S. 
 English or British English, which are in my rotor, the foreign voice goes 
 away and I can read. Even if I change to the Spanish voice in my rotor I 
 hear the Spanish voice reading English like it's Spanish. The only voice in 
 which the behavior occurs is when I am in my default language according to 
 my voiceover setup. If I just touch the screen with my default voice 
 selected, the English is read appropriately, but as soon as I do the 
 two-finger swipe down to read continuously, the other voice that isn't in 
 my rotor starts up again. I am turning my rotor away from Language even 
 though that voice is not in my rotor so this doesn't have anything to do 
 with being in the language rotor. If I swipe down in my home screen this 
 doesn't happen, just in uindle, though I haven't tried other apps. I can go 
 on reading with Daniel or Samantha but I want to read with Karen and this 
 is really griping me. The only other thing I can do is just turn off speech 
 and read with my braille display. Any suggestions as to how I get Kindle to 
 read with my default language voice instead of pretending it's a different 
 language and bringing in some other voice?
 Thanks.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
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Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

2014-06-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
That's interesting Mark, in my privacy Contacts settings, Skype is not listed 
at all.
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On 15/06/2014, at 8:58 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 With regard to the question of how to add iPhone Contacts into the new Skype
 app, I just went into my phone settings, to the privacy area.  I opened up
 the Contacts section and, by default, Skypes access to my Contacts was
 turned off.
 
 For those who want Skype to have access to the iPHone's Contacts, which I do
 not, have any of you checked to make sure this is turned on?  If so, what
 happened?  
 
 I am leaving mine set to off.
 
 Mark
 PS
 Leave it to Microsoft to turn a first-rate app, into something (to put it
 kindly) not first rate.
 
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Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Blind Treasures
I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

*** 
 
From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
[mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora

Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com
These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



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Bluetooth keyboard Apple TV

2014-06-14 Thread Blind Treasures
Does anyone have a list of the key commands used on a Bluetooth keyboard
while using the apple TV? I haven't been able to figure out how to fast
forward and rewind. Any help would be appreciated.

Tony 

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Feliciano G
I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you 
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will 
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
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 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Josh Gregory
In all fairness, I doubt they would put out such a response, and if they did, I 
am sure there would have to be a reason for it. Not trying to start anything 
but just saying

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you 
 should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will 
 receive.
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
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 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread alia robinson
I don't either. 

Alia
On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you 
 should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will 
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Unable to send messages using outlook contacts that have been synchronized with iCloud

2014-06-14 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi all,

I wanted to synchronize my calendars with my iPhone so was forced to choose
to synchronize my contacts thanks to the iCloud control panel. I use Outlook
2013 as my primary e-mail client. 

The contacts are now under a folder in iCloud. I am unable to find an option
to send e-mail via these contacts. When I did not have the contacts
synchronized via iCloud, I was able to arrow to a contact, tab to the to
button and continue. What am I missing? How do I get my contacts in to the
regular contacts folder?

Pranav

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Lori Dent

Hi,

I don't use pandora but after reading the  responce from pandora to the 
blind user  about their app, I think the responce from pandora to the blind 
users was very uncalled for and very rude  and I think I would never 
recommend pandora to anyone because of their nasty comments about blind 
people an just being very nasty in my opinion .
This sort of thing should be reported  and the person who develops the 
pandora app should have their app  removed from the apple store all 
together. Plus the pandora people need to apologise  for  saying nasty 
comments about blind people because this kind of behavior from pandora is 
unexceptable .


Lori 


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re: Unable to send messages using outlook contacts that have been synchronized with iCloud

2014-06-14 Thread todd patkus

Pranav,

This is more to do with Office 2013, so you should send this 
email to another list called Office2007, run by Denny.  I am sure 
Denny will help you with it.  Just a suggestion.


Todd


- Original Message -
From: Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 05:34:51 +0530
Subject: Unable to send messages using outlook contacts that have 

been synchronized with iCloud


Hi all,


I wanted to synchronize my calendars with my iPhone so was forced 

to choose
to synchronize my contacts thanks to the iCloud control panel.  I 

use Outlook

2013 as my primary e-mail client.


The contacts are now under a folder in iCloud.  I am unable to 

find an option
to send e-mail via these contacts.  When I did not have the 

contacts
synchronized via iCloud, I was able to arrow to a contact, tab to 

the to
button and continue.  What am I missing? How do I get my contacts 

in to the

regular contacts folder?



Pranav



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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Tristan
My e-mail to the list yesterday can contest to Pandora not all being like
that. I got a very professional and well-meant response from them.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Feliciano G
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora 
 should hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the 
 response that a blind person received from Pandora when asking if they 
 could make their app more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 ***
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List 
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology 
 blindt...@emissives.com These guys have sunk to an all new low. This 
 was taken from a friend of mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen 
 to know that the original message that was sent enquiring about the 
 latest accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in
any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and 
 will never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's 
 written us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't 
 tell you when or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we 
 really don't support blind people. Perhaps you should go find another 
 app that is more let speech hold your hand while you cross the street 
 friendly. Maybe our app is too hard for you non-seeing beings. Just 
 shows what a disaster it is to be born blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to 
 it when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread alberto
I believe this is one of few people who do that.  I would suggest reporting 
such person.  Just because one of their personnel is mean doesn't mean all are.
If your fringe is so enclined I bet the better result is reporting this to them.
Sighted people do it all the time why shouldn't we report when we are miss 
treated.
JMO
Alberto
On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:

 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread alberto
I agree I emailed them myself and they responded quite nicely.
On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you 
 should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will 
 receive.
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 *** 
 
 From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread alia robinson
exactly, to say everyone there is that way and write them off isn't going to 
accomplish anything. If this person did say that then the people there need to 
know it. 

Alia
On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:35 PM, alberto alberto.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe this is one of few people who do that.  I would suggest reporting 
 such person.  Just because one of their personnel is mean doesn't mean all 
 are.
 If your fringe is so enclined I bet the better result is reporting this to 
 them.
 Sighted people do it all the time why shouldn't we report when we are miss 
 treated.
 JMO
 Alberto

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Re: Amazon app now inaccessible?

2014-06-14 Thread brian albriton
It now looks more just like to plain old webpage with all this clutter

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Version 3.5.1 no longer allows the scrub to move back.  The headings are all 
 “no header back icon,”” “no header no header cart icon,” and such, and they 
 tend to move around the screen, and on some screens are very difficult to 
 find.  At the top, but four finger tap does not always bring them to you.  
 You are also presented with a lot more recommended for you products and sale 
 items, whether you want them or not.  The first time I used the app I got 
 caught in an Xbox sale screen and it took me awhile to find my way out. 
  
 Not quite inaccessible, but as I said, not very pretty, either.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Gmail
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 5:04 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Amazon app now inaccessible?
  
 Could you give us more information? Which Amazon app is this? I know they've 
 put out a few, so I'm just wondering. Also, what app version is this?
  
  
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Jun 13, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I just got an Amazon app updated, and it’s not pretty.
  
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Donna
This Facebook message isn't true. The ONLY facebook page that I could find, 
Pandora user's can't post messages to the page. There however many Pandora 
pages created by individuals, who have people discussing the Pandora app. 

Pandora Radio is actually Pandora Media. pandora is a large millions dollar 
company, not your run of the mill app developer. 

So I doubt a large company like Pandora would have such a non-compassionate and 
rude employee. 

Donna

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't use pandora but after reading the  responce from pandora to the blind 
 user  about their app, I think the responce from pandora to the blind users 
 was very uncalled for and very rude  and I think I would never recommend 
 pandora to anyone because of their nasty comments about blind people an just 
 being very nasty in my opinion .
 This sort of thing should be reported  and the person who develops the 
 pandora app should have their app  removed from the apple store all together. 
 Plus the pandora people need to apologise  for  saying nasty comments about 
 blind people because this kind of behavior from pandora is unexceptable .
 
 Lori 
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Re: Amazon app now inaccessible?

2014-06-14 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I'm not seeing this with the app. Also, have you tried Amazon's 
Price Check app?


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On 6/14/2014 11:16 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

Version 3.5.1 no longer allows the scrub to move back.  The headings are
all “no header back icon,”” “no header no header cart icon,” and such,
and they tend to move around the screen, and on some screens are very
difficult to find.  At the top, but four finger tap does not always
bring them to you.  You are also presented with a lot more recommended
for you products and sale items, whether you want them or not.  The
first time I used the app I got caught in an Xbox sale screen and it
took me awhile to find my way out.

Not quite inaccessible, but as I said, not very pretty, either.

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Behalf Of *Gmail
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Amazon app now inaccessible?

Could you give us more information? Which Amazon app is this? I know
they've put out a few, so I'm just wondering. Also, what app version is
this?

Thanks,

Ari


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Hi.

I just got an Amazon app updated, and it’s not pretty.

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Re: Amazon app now inaccessible?

2014-06-14 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
If you are talking about the Amazon shopping app I just installed it 
yesterday and I can use it fine. What specifically isn't accessible?


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On 6/13/2014 12:49 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.

I just got an Amazon app updated, and it's not pretty.

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Sounds like a scam, or like someone is impersonating a Pandora rep. 
Smells like an urban legend starting.


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On 6/14/2014 6:18 PM, Blind Treasures wrote:

I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

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Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com
These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Blind Treasures
Just passing the info on, whether you believe it or not is up to each
individual. I thought it was a little out in right field myself, but I have
ran across rude people before, even in large companies.

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
This is not first-hand or even second-hand information, so I take it with a 
large ocean of salt. I don't know which is more incredible: the message itself 
or the willingness to take it as fact. I don't believe it's a good idea to base 
responses on hearsay alone. Do thy research. I kind of wish there was an 
equivalent of Snopes to dispel some of these rumors that pop up with regards to 
accessibility. Given my frame of mind at the moment, I almost want to start 
such a page. It's challenging enough to deal with accessibility issues without 
wading through nasty and silly nonsense. Folks, let's work on the stuff we do 
know about and have some direct communication between users and developers to 
fix it.

Teresa, (very peeved) 

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On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 This Facebook message isn't true. The ONLY facebook page that I could find, 
 Pandora user's can't post messages to the page. There however many Pandora 
 pages created by individuals, who have people discussing the Pandora app. 
 
 Pandora Radio is actually Pandora Media. pandora is a large millions dollar 
 company, not your run of the mill app developer. 
 
 So I doubt a large company like Pandora would have such a non-compassionate 
 and rude employee. 
 
 Donna
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't use pandora but after reading the  responce from pandora to the 
 blind user  about their app, I think the responce from pandora to the blind 
 users was very uncalled for and very rude  and I think I would never 
 recommend pandora to anyone because of their nasty comments about blind 
 people an just being very nasty in my opinion .
 This sort of thing should be reported  and the person who develops the 
 pandora app should have their app  removed from the apple store all 
 together. Plus the pandora people need to apologise  for  saying nasty 
 comments about blind people because this kind of behavior from pandora is 
 unexceptable .
 
 Lori 
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Re: Unable to send messages using outlook contacts that have been synchronized with iCloud

2014-06-14 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello. You need to set your default address book to your ICloud Contacts 
folder. You can find information in the help for outlook 2013.

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 Hi all,
 
 I wanted to synchronize my calendars with my iPhone so was forced to choose
 to synchronize my contacts thanks to the iCloud control panel. I use Outlook
 2013 as my primary e-mail client. 
 
 The contacts are now under a folder in iCloud. I am unable to find an option
 to send e-mail via these contacts. When I did not have the contacts
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Anthony Vece
I can't believe that anyone would give any credence to a message such as this.
And, pass it along and expect people to also believe it?



Sent from my iPhone 5s!

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 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
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 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
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 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
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 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
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 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
 Listener Advocate
 
 PANDORAR internet radio
 
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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread Andy Baracco
After a careful read of the article, I have come to the conclusion that it 
is a balanced presentation. Even though I love my iPhone, I did have a 
difficult time getting started, and almost returned it. I have at least one 
close friend who returned his unit because he became so frustrated.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Thanks for the link.  I don't know about the typing speed vs. keyboard
speed, but the article seems accurate to me, with the exception of 2
negatives he left out--the access to keys if a phone call leaves one in a
menu, and the 911 issue.

- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


Here is a link:
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm14/bm1406/bm140608.htm

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone
viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:

Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article covering 
the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it would 
be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things which are 
not good about the iPhone but this article supposedly did just that.  I 
plan to write a detailed blog post in the coming week with my responses to 
the ten objections but I'll just say that it's one of the most 
irresponsible pieces of journalism I've ever read from that magazine. 
Please, understand that this is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any 
other organization or even a criticism of the Monitor.  However, the piece 
infuriated me because the NFB is a highly influential organization and 
many of its members and readers of the Monitor will take the article 
seriously just because it comes from a nationally recognized blindness 
organization.  My fear is that many people may read this article and will 
be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to things which the article claims 
are not good about the device.

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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Tristan
This is seriously not a Facebook scam. I'm not saying the message wasn't
forged, but it did not originate in Facebook.

It originated from a message posted on the AppleVis.com web forum.
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Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I can't believe that anyone would give any credence to a message such as
this.
And, pass it along and expect people to also believe it?



Sent from my iPhone 5s!

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora 
 should hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the 
 response that a blind person received from Pandora when asking if they 
 could make their app more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
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 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
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 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology 
 blindt...@emissives.com These guys have sunk to an all new low. This 
 was taken from a friend of mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen 
 to know that the original message that was sent enquiring about the 
 latest accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in
any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and 
 will never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's 
 written us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't 
 tell you when or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we 
 really don't support blind people. Perhaps you should go find another 
 app that is more let speech hold your hand while you cross the street 
 friendly. Maybe our app is too hard for you non-seeing beings. Just 
 shows what a disaster it is to be born blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to 
 it when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
 Listener Advocate
 
 PANDORAR internet radio
 
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RE: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jonathan and Donna,

 

I did Google this and will have to do some more digging since yesterday I 
didn’t have so much time. But it does indeed appear as if this feature has also 
been removed for now. I totally agree with you, Jonathan, that this is really a 
vital feature and it should be considered essential. Even on my PC I can opt to 
show all my Outlook contacts in Skype and I really hope that a lot of other 
people will realize that it is no longer possible to access one’s iPhone 
contact list and raise a storm. Interestingly enough if I go to Privacy and 
check which apps have access to my Contacts Skype is still listed. Of course 
this might be the case because I upgraded, I probably see what happens if I 
delete Skype and reinstall it. I will report anything I find regarding this.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype

 

Hi

 

I'm wondering this as well. I'm new to Skype. I have searched the app, but 
can't find a way to import my contacts. I have no time or patience to add my 
contacts individually. 

 

Donna


On Jun 14, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
mailto:jmo...@mosen.org  wrote:

Hi Sieghard, in your reading, have you found out whether integration with the 
iPhone contacts has gone or is inaccessible? Not being able to call your 
contacts from within Skype makes the app a lot less useful.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 14/06/2014, at 8:24 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:





Hello List,

 

I did a bit of checking on various Skype forums and there is currently indeed 
no way to clear/delete chat history, recent calls and so on. In one thread 
somebody from Skype replied to many rather unhappy messages that they are 
looking to bring this back in a future update.

 

One thing that works nicely is to swipe between People, Recents and Favorites 
instead of finding the buttons at the top. You can double tap and hold either 
on the left side of the phone and swipe across to the right after the triple 
tone or double tap and hold on the right and swipe across to the left. This 
will smoothly and seamlessly move between screens, just touch the screen after 
to see if you are in People, Recents or Favorites.

 

For those who didn’t see my previous post as to how you can remove contacts, 
here it is again:

 

1.   Double tap on the contact you want to remove

2.   Double tap on the “More” button at the bottom right

3.   Double tap on the “Block” button from the menu which pops up (the 
other option is “Add to Favorites”

4.   In the next menu you have the options “Block”, “Block and Remove” and 
“No” (the latter is if you change your mind and want to do nothing).

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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RE: Skype and iPhone Contacts

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Mark and Jonathan,

 

Did you remove Skype and reinstall or did you install it as an update via
the App Store?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

 

That's interesting Mark, in my privacy Contacts settings, Skype is not
listed at all.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 15/06/2014, at 8:58 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu
 wrote:





Hello All,

With regard to the question of how to add iPhone Contacts into the new Skype
app, I just went into my phone settings, to the privacy area.  I opened up
the Contacts section and, by default, Skypes access to my Contacts was
turned off.

For those who want Skype to have access to the iPHone's Contacts, which I do
not, have any of you checked to make sure this is turned on?  If so, what
happened?  

I am leaving mine set to off.

Mark
PS
Leave it to Microsoft to turn a first-rate app, into something (to put it
kindly) not first rate.

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RE: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Andy,

I chose not to respond to the entire thread about this article but was
absolutely astonished by the flood of negative posts. I am glad you said you
found it to be a balanced account because I also found very little wrong
with it. I completely agree with the author that the iPhone is not for
everybody and I think in the end that was really the point he was trying to
make. I know some blind people, some who are older but even a few who are
not that old but who are absolutely incapable of reaching any level of
proficiency with technology and for them the iPhone would be an absolute
nightmare. I found it interesting how a lot of responses sounded as if the
poster felt personally insulted by the fact that somebody dared to say the
iPhone had shortcomings or was not suitable for a certain group of people.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

After a careful read of the article, I have come to the conclusion that it
is a balanced presentation. Even though I love my iPhone, I did have a
difficult time getting started, and almost returned it. I have at least one
close friend who returned his unit because he became so frustrated.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Thanks for the link.  I don't know about the typing speed vs. keyboard
speed, but the article seems accurate to me, with the exception of 2
negatives he left out--the access to keys if a phone call leaves one in a
menu, and the 911 issue.

- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


Here is a link:
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm14/bm1406/bm140608.htm

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone
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 Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article covering 
 the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it would 
 be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things which are 
 not good about the iPhone but this article supposedly did just that.  I 
 plan to write a detailed blog post in the coming week with my responses to

 the ten objections but I'll just say that it's one of the most 
 irresponsible pieces of journalism I've ever read from that magazine. 
 Please, understand that this is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any 
 other organization or even a criticism of the Monitor.  However, the piece

 infuriated me because the NFB is a highly influential organization and 
 many of its members and readers of the Monitor will take the article 
 seriously just because it comes from a nationally recognized blindness 
 organization.  My fear is that many people may read this article and will 
 be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to things which the article claims 
 are not good about the device.
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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I also do absolutely not believe that this message was sent from a
representative of Pandora; it was probably some idiot who pretended to be
such a person. It came via Facebook, correct? I would forward this to
Pandora since I am quite certain that they are being incorrectly accused of
this.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Feliciano G
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
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 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
 hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that
a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their
app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
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 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
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 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
 blindt...@emissives.com
 These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
 mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to
know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
 never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
 us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
 or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
 blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let
speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
 hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be
born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
 when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
 Listener Advocate
 
 PANDORAR internet radio
 
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Re: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype

2014-06-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
It is a crazy decision to release the app with contact integration missing. It 
could cause their revenue from their landline calling segment to take a real 
hit.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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http://Mosen.org

On 15/06/2014, at 3:13 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Jonathan and Donna,
  
 I did Google this and will have to do some more digging since yesterday I 
 didn't have so much time. But it does indeed appear as if this feature has 
 also been removed for now. I totally agree with you, Jonathan, that this is 
 really a vital feature and it should be considered essential. Even on my PC I 
 can opt to show all my Outlook contacts in Skype and I really hope that a lot 
 of other people will realize that it is no longer possible to access one's 
 iPhone contact list and raise a storm. Interestingly enough if I go to 
 Privacy and check which apps have access to my Contacts Skype is still 
 listed. Of course this might be the case because I upgraded, I probably see 
 what happens if I delete Skype and reinstall it. I will report anything I 
 find regarding this.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 OfDonna
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype
  
 Hi
  
 I'm wondering this as well. I'm new to Skype. I have searched the app, but 
 can't find a way to import my contacts. I have no time or patience to add my 
 contacts individually. 
  
 Donna
 
 On Jun 14, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi Sieghard, in your reading, have you found out whether integration with the 
 iPhone contacts has gone or is inaccessible? Not being able to call your 
 contacts from within Skype makes the app a lot less useful.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
  
 On 14/06/2014, at 8:24 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 
 Hello List,
  
 I did a bit of checking on various Skype forums and there is currently indeed 
 no way to clear/delete chat history, recent calls and so on. In one thread 
 somebody from Skype replied to many rather unhappy messages that they are 
 looking to bring this back in a future update.
  
 One thing that works nicely is to swipe between People, Recents and Favorites 
 instead of finding the buttons at the top. You can double tap and hold either 
 on the left side of the phone and swipe across to the right after the triple 
 tone or double tap and hold on the right and swipe across to the left. This 
 will smoothly and seamlessly move between screens, just touch the screen 
 after to see if you are in People, Recents or Favorites.
  
 For those who didn't see my previous post as to how you can remove contacts, 
 here it is again:
  
 1.   Double tap on the contact you want to remove
 2.   Double tap on the More button at the bottom right
 3.   Double tap on the Block button from the menu which pops up (the 
 other option is Add to Favorites
 4.   In the next menu you have the options Block, Block and Remove 
 and No (the latter is if you change your mind and want to do nothing).
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
  
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Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

2014-06-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
In my case I removed Skype and reinstalled.
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On 15/06/2014, at 3:14 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Mark and Jonathan,
  
 Did you remove Skype and reinstall or did you install it as an update via the 
 App Store?
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts
  
 That's interesting Mark, in my privacy Contacts settings, Skype is not listed 
 at all.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
  
 On 15/06/2014, at 8:58 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 
 Hello All,
 
 With regard to the question of how to add iPhone Contacts into the new Skype
 app, I just went into my phone settings, to the privacy area.  I opened up
 the Contacts section and, by default, Skypes access to my Contacts was
 turned off.
 
 For those who want Skype to have access to the iPHone's Contacts, which I do
 not, have any of you checked to make sure this is turned on?  If so, what
 happened?  
 
 I am leaving mine set to off.
 
 Mark
 PS
 Leave it to Microsoft to turn a first-rate app, into something (to put it
 kindly) not first rate.
 
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RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Tristan
http://applevis.com/forum/ios-ios-app-discussion/interesting-pandora-update
It did not come from Facebook.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pandora Response to accessibility

I also do absolutely not believe that this message was sent from a
representative of Pandora; it was probably some idiot who pretended to be
such a person. It came via Facebook, correct? I would forward this to
Pandora since I am quite certain that they are being incorrectly accused of
this.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Feliciano G
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

I don't believe this is true. If you believe what this email says, maybe you
should email Pandora and see for yourself what type of response you will
receive.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Blind Treasures 
blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora 
 should hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the 
 response that
a
 blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make 
 their
app
 more accessible. Atrocious!
 I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!
 
 ***
 
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 [mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
 Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
 Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
 To: blindt...@emissives.com
 Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
 Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology 
 blindt...@emissives.com These guys have sunk to an all new low. This 
 was taken from a friend of mines facebook.
 
 
 
 This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen 
 to
know
 that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest 
 accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
 So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and 
 will never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.
 
 
 
 Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's 
 written us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't 
 tell you when or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we 
 really don't support blind people. Perhaps you should go find another 
 app that is more let
speech
 hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is 
 too hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is 
 to be
born
 blind, hum?
 
 
 
 Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to 
 it when we get to it.
 
 
 
 Warren | Pandora
 
 Listener Advocate
 
 PANDORAR internet radio
 
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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Feliciano G
Maybe you should email Pandora and see what type of response you get, you know 
how it goes when you see things on Facebook. People just like to create drama. 
Facebook seems to be a place where a lot of people vent.

Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Blind Treasures  blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 Just passing the info on, whether you believe it or not is up to each
 individual. I thought it was a little out in right field myself, but I have
 ran across rude people before, even in large companies.
 
 I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than
 live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway
 
 
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So easy, was: Skype and iPhone Contacts

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jonathan, Donna and others,

 

Well, it occurred to me to maybe check on the DialPad screen since one would
typically use the iPhone Contact list to call landlines or mobile numbers
and the integration is right there.

 

Double tap on DialPad and, there is a Cancel button at the top left, the
phone number field in the middle and at the top right is the Addressbook
button.

I had turned off Skype in Privacy/Contacts yesterday in order to see if
turning it off and on would make a difference so now it told me that I had
to go and turn this on, after I did all my iPhone Contacts were there.

 

I guess to me it would make sense to also have iPhone Contacts in that
list of what one wants to display under People, but for now this definitely
is an easy way to get access to the iPhone Contacts.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

 

In my case I removed Skype and reinstalled.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 15/06/2014, at 3:14 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:





Hi Mark and Jonathan,

 

Did you remove Skype and reinstall or did you install it as an update via
the App Store?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com [
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:24 PM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

 

That's interesting Mark, in my privacy Contacts settings, Skype is not
listed at all.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

 http://mosen.org/ http://Mosen.org

 

On 15/06/2014, at 8:58 am, M. Taylor  mailto:mk...@ucla.edu
mk...@ucla.edu wrote:






Hello All,

With regard to the question of how to add iPhone Contacts into the new Skype
app, I just went into my phone settings, to the privacy area.  I opened up
the Contacts section and, by default, Skypes access to my Contacts was
turned off.

For those who want Skype to have access to the iPHone's Contacts, which I do
not, have any of you checked to make sure this is turned on?  If so, what
happened?  

I am leaving mine set to off.

Mark
PS
Leave it to Microsoft to turn a first-rate app, into something (to put it
kindly) not first rate.

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Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

2014-06-14 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Hi all,

If I'm understanding correctly, some can't access their Contacts within the 
new Skype5 app? I am perfectly able to access all my contacts by simply 
adding them to Skype via toggle within Settings  Privacy  Contacts. I then 
turned off this Contacts feature within Skype5, and Skype once again 
informed me that I needed to turn on related setting within Privacy 
settings.

In other words, one can add Contacts then use in-app search utility to 
search for a specific iOS Contact within Skype5 and the phone number will be 
automatically placed on dial pad screen.

If one chooses, one can then go into Settings  Privacy and disable Skype's 
ability to see one's Contacts--nothing appears to be imported into Skype 
because I can then disable Skype's ability to see my iOS Contacts.

I upgraded the app and did not have to uninstall then reinstall on my iPod 
Touch 5th gen.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts


In my case I removed Skype and reinstalled.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 15/06/2014, at 3:14 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Mark and Jonathan,

 Did you remove Skype and reinstall or did you install it as an update via 
 the App Store?

 Regards,
 Sieghard

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

 That's interesting Mark, in my privacy Contacts settings, Skype is not 
 listed at all.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org

 On 15/06/2014, at 8:58 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:


 Hello All,

 With regard to the question of how to add iPhone Contacts into the new 
 Skype
 app, I just went into my phone settings, to the privacy area.  I opened up
 the Contacts section and, by default, Skypes access to my Contacts was
 turned off.

 For those who want Skype to have access to the iPHone's Contacts, which I 
 do
 not, have any of you checked to make sure this is turned on?  If so, what
 happened?

 I am leaving mine set to off.

 Mark
 PS
 Leave it to Microsoft to turn a first-rate app, into something (to put it
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Re: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype

2014-06-14 Thread Joseph FreeTech
If all is working as it should within Skype5, I think it is more of an issue 
of people not looking close enough through all app screens and settings. I 
just posted a solution that literally took me about 5 minutes to experiment 
and figure out without having read all messages on this topic. Please look 
for my previous post for details.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype


It is a crazy decision to release the app with contact integration missing. 
It could cause their revenue from their landline calling segment to take a 
real hit.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 15/06/2014, at 3:13 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Jonathan and Donna,

 I did Google this and will have to do some more digging since yesterday I 
 didn't have so much time. But it does indeed appear as if this feature has 
 also been removed for now. I totally agree with you, Jonathan, that this 
 is really a vital feature and it should be considered essential. Even on 
 my PC I can opt to show all my Outlook contacts in Skype and I really hope 
 that a lot of other people will realize that it is no longer possible to 
 access one's iPhone contact list and raise a storm. Interestingly enough 
 if I go to Privacy and check which apps have access to my Contacts Skype 
 is still listed. Of course this might be the case because I upgraded, I 
 probably see what happens if I delete Skype and reinstall it. I will 
 report anything I find regarding this.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 OfDonna
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Deleting Recent Chat/Call history in Skype

 Hi

 I'm wondering this as well. I'm new to Skype. I have searched the app, but 
 can't find a way to import my contacts. I have no time or patience to add 
 my contacts individually.

 Donna

 On Jun 14, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 Hi Sieghard, in your reading, have you found out whether integration with 
 the iPhone contacts has gone or is inaccessible? Not being able to call 
 your contacts from within Skype makes the app a lot less useful.
 Jonathan Mosen
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 On 14/06/2014, at 8:24 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


 Hello List,

 I did a bit of checking on various Skype forums and there is currently 
 indeed no way to clear/delete chat history, recent calls and so on. In one 
 thread somebody from Skype replied to many rather unhappy messages that 
 they are looking to bring this back in a future update.

 One thing that works nicely is to swipe between People, Recents and 
 Favorites instead of finding the buttons at the top. You can double tap 
 and hold either on the left side of the phone and swipe across to the 
 right after the triple tone or double tap and hold on the right and swipe 
 across to the left. This will smoothly and seamlessly move between 
 screens, just touch the screen after to see if you are in People, Recents 
 or Favorites.

 For those who didn't see my previous post as to how you can remove 
 contacts, here it is again:

 1.   Double tap on the contact you want to remove
 2.   Double tap on the More button at the bottom right
 3.   Double tap on the Block button from the menu which pops up (the 
 other option is Add to Favorites
 4.   In the next menu you have the options Block, Block and Remove 
 and No (the latter is if you change your mind and want to do nothing).

 Regards,
 Sieghard


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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Joseph FreeTech
I didn't want to add to the list clutter, but at times there is a serious 
lack of basic critical thinking on these lists. Its almost as if people are 
sitting around waiting, just waiting to be insulted or in some way be 
mistreated, for which they are thrown into a needless rage and silly 
behavior follows.

Joseph 

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RE: Skype and iPhone Contacts

2014-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Joseph,

You posted responses to both the Contact and the Recent Chat thread. I
assume the solution you speak about which took you 5 minutes to figure out
relates o Contacts and not to deleting items from the Recents list, a
feature which really is missing.

Could you explain what you mean by in-app search utility? Do you refer to
using the Addressbook button at the top right of the DialPad?

I think we were all a bit confused by the fact that when you tap on the
All button in the People view there are only 2 options, All and
Online. In the previous Skype version one would use the Lists button and
then there were options for All, Skype Contacts, Online Contacts,
Saved Phone Numbers and also iPhone Contacts. I think this was maybe a
bit more intuitive and I don't quite understand why they didn't at least put
iPhone Contacts as a third option with All and Online. Then it would
have been possible to access the contact list either from inside the People
view as well as from the DialPad.

Also, if I use the search field in the People view and search for a contact
I only get results from my Skype contacts and not from my iPhone Contacts
even though I have allowed Skype access to my contact list.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

Hi all,

If I'm understanding correctly, some can't access their Contacts within the
new Skype5 app? I am perfectly able to access all my contacts by simply
adding them to Skype via toggle within Settings  Privacy  Contacts. I then
turned off this Contacts feature within Skype5, and Skype once again
informed me that I needed to turn on related setting within Privacy
settings.

In other words, one can add Contacts then use in-app search utility to
search for a specific iOS Contact within Skype5 and the phone number will be
automatically placed on dial pad screen.

If one chooses, one can then go into Settings  Privacy and disable Skype's
ability to see one's Contacts--nothing appears to be imported into Skype
because I can then disable Skype's ability to see my iOS Contacts.

I upgraded the app and did not have to uninstall then reinstall on my iPod
Touch 5th gen.

Joseph

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts


In my case I removed Skype and reinstalled.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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On 15/06/2014, at 3:14 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Mark and Jonathan,

 Did you remove Skype and reinstall or did you install it as an update via 
 the App Store?

 Regards,
 Sieghard

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

 Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Skype and iPhone Contacts

 That's interesting Mark, in my privacy Contacts settings, Skype is not 
 listed at all.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org

 On 15/06/2014, at 8:58 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:


 Hello All,

 With regard to the question of how to add iPhone Contacts into the new 
 Skype
 app, I just went into my phone settings, to the privacy area.  I opened up
 the Contacts section and, by default, Skypes access to my Contacts was
 turned off.

 For those who want Skype to have access to the iPHone's Contacts, which I 
 do
 not, have any of you checked to make sure this is turned on?  If so, what
 happened?

 I am leaving mine set to off.

 Mark
 PS
 Leave it to Microsoft to turn a first-rate app, into something (to put it
 kindly) not first rate.

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Re: Pandora Response to accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Andy Baracco
I cannot believe that anyone in an official capacity with the company wrote 
that. Considering that it appeared on Facebook, anybody could have written 
that. it sounds like it was written by a 12 year old.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Blind Treasures

Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pandora Response to accessibility

I know this is a little off topic but thought people using Pandora should
hear what type of people they are supporting. Find below the response that a
blind person received from Pandora when asking if they could make their app
more accessible. Atrocious!
I have removed Pandora from my Iphone and will never use it again!

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[mailto:vicu...@listserv.icors.org] On Behalf Of Terrie Arnold
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vicu...@listserv.icors.org
Subject: [VICUG-L] Fwd: [BlindTech] Pandora

Begin forwarded message:
From: Crystal Bell via BlindTech blindt...@emissives.com
Date: June 14, 2014 at 8:58:07 AM CDT
To: blindt...@emissives.com
Subject: [BlindTech] Pandora
Reply-To: Crystal Bell cminner1...@gmail.com, A list for technology
blindt...@emissives.com
These guys have sunk to an all new low. This was taken from a friend of
mines facebook.



This was a reply from Pandora tech support to a blind user. I happen to know
that the original message that was sent enquiring about the latest
accessibility issues in the Pandora IOS app were not insulting in any way.
So, this reply is totally unacceptable. I no longer have Pandora, and will
never recommend it to anyone, blind or sighted. The reply follows.



Yeah yeah, we know we know. You're not the first blind dude who's written
us. rest totally assure we're aware of the problem. We can't tell you when
or if this problem will be fixed. The truth is, we really don't support
blind people. Perhaps you should go find another app that is more let speech
hold your hand while you cross the street friendly. Maybe our app is too
hard for you non-seeing beings. Just shows what a disaster it is to be born
blind, hum?



Anyway, tell your little friends to stop writing us, ok? We'll get to it
when we get to it.



Warren | Pandora

Listener Advocate

PANDORAR internet radio

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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread Andy Baracco
I made a mistake in that I read David Goldfield's response before I read the 
article itself. One should never do that, and I will be sure to never do 
that again.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Hi Andy,

I chose not to respond to the entire thread about this article but was
absolutely astonished by the flood of negative posts. I am glad you said you
found it to be a balanced account because I also found very little wrong
with it. I completely agree with the author that the iPhone is not for
everybody and I think in the end that was really the point he was trying to
make. I know some blind people, some who are older but even a few who are
not that old but who are absolutely incapable of reaching any level of
proficiency with technology and for them the iPhone would be an absolute
nightmare. I found it interesting how a lot of responses sounded as if the
poster felt personally insulted by the fact that somebody dared to say the
iPhone had shortcomings or was not suitable for a certain group of people.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

After a careful read of the article, I have come to the conclusion that it
is a balanced presentation. Even though I love my iPhone, I did have a
difficult time getting started, and almost returned it. I have at least one
close friend who returned his unit because he became so frustrated.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Thanks for the link.  I don't know about the typing speed vs. keyboard
speed, but the article seems accurate to me, with the exception of 2
negatives he left out--the access to keys if a phone call leaves one in a
menu, and the 911 issue.

- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


Here is a link:
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm14/bm1406/bm140608.htm

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:


Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article covering
the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it would
be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things which are
not good about the iPhone but this article supposedly did just that.  I
plan to write a detailed blog post in the coming week with my responses to



the ten objections but I'll just say that it's one of the most
irresponsible pieces of journalism I've ever read from that magazine.
Please, understand that this is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any
other organization or even a criticism of the Monitor.  However, the piece



infuriated me because the NFB is a highly influential organization and
many of its members and readers of the Monitor will take the article
seriously just because it comes from a nationally recognized blindness
organization.  My fear is that many people may read this article and will
be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to things which the article claims
are not good about the device.
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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-14 Thread Andy Baracco
Serotalk podcast 202 has an interview with Curtis Chong concerning the 
article. It is a good listen, and should clarify where he was coming from.


www.serotalk.com

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Hi Andy,

I chose not to respond to the entire thread about this article but was
absolutely astonished by the flood of negative posts. I am glad you said you
found it to be a balanced account because I also found very little wrong
with it. I completely agree with the author that the iPhone is not for
everybody and I think in the end that was really the point he was trying to
make. I know some blind people, some who are older but even a few who are
not that old but who are absolutely incapable of reaching any level of
proficiency with technology and for them the iPhone would be an absolute
nightmare. I found it interesting how a lot of responses sounded as if the
poster felt personally insulted by the fact that somebody dared to say the
iPhone had shortcomings or was not suitable for a certain group of people.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

After a careful read of the article, I have come to the conclusion that it
is a balanced presentation. Even though I love my iPhone, I did have a
difficult time getting started, and almost returned it. I have at least one
close friend who returned his unit because he became so frustrated.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Thanks for the link.  I don't know about the typing speed vs. keyboard
speed, but the article seems accurate to me, with the exception of 2
negatives he left out--the access to keys if a phone call leaves one in a
menu, and the 911 issue.

- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


Here is a link:
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm14/bm1406/bm140608.htm

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone
viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:


Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article covering
the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it would
be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things which are
not good about the iPhone but this article supposedly did just that.  I
plan to write a detailed blog post in the coming week with my responses to



the ten objections but I'll just say that it's one of the most
irresponsible pieces of journalism I've ever read from that magazine.
Please, understand that this is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any
other organization or even a criticism of the Monitor.  However, the piece



infuriated me because the NFB is a highly influential organization and
many of its members and readers of the Monitor will take the article
seriously just because it comes from a nationally recognized blindness
organization.  My fear is that many people may read this article and will
be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to things which the article claims
are not good about the device.
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info about apps for ringtones,

2014-06-14 Thread Cathy
Is there an app to convert MP3 ring tones into i-phone ring tones?  If there 
is, is it accessible with voice over?  Thanks for the info in advance.
Cathy  Pilot Dog, Tiny:

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