Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

Chris,
VoiceDream writer costs a lot more than I'd be willing to pay.
Wayne, Plain text isn't available in the canadian app store.
Thank you both for the suggestions, 
I appreciate them.
> On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I know you were looking for a free app, but I can say that even though the 
> app is not free, Voice Dream Writer will do what you want.
> You can open files in Writer directly from Dropbox, then you can edit or add 
> to the file, and once you are done, you can export the file back to dropbox 
> saving over the original file.
> I just tried it myself, and it worked just fine.
> 
> Voice Dream Writer is a very good app, still has support from the developer, 
> and has a lot of great features.  Here is the app store link:
> 
> Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC
> https://appsto.re/us/8UV32.i
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, all access note seems to be able too do is add files to dropbox.
>> I want to be able too work on files already in my db folders.
>> Thanks for the suggestion though, Wayne, I appreciate it.
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Wayne, I'll check that app out.
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 
 Cheryl: you might try AccessNote from AFB. That app is free and you
 can save your files directly to Dropbox. I don't recall offhand if the
 saves happen automatically or if you have to tell it to save. Either
 way, it might work for what you want.
 
 Good luck,
 Wayne
 
> On 9/9/16, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
> That sounds like exactly what I want. Unfortunately it's not free and 
> hasn't
> been updated since 2013.
> 
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Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA Networks

[Kelly Pierce]

Once your contract expires, unlock your phone and renegotiate your
plan with Verizon.  You should pay less because you are only
purchasing wireless service and no hardware. You can port your number
to a new carrier if you wish so no worries about people reaching you
if you change providers.

Kelly



On 9/10/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> The lock is associated with the phone and not the sim card. This is why
> you can't put a sim card from another carrier into your locked phone and
> use it.
>
> On 10/09/16 17:47, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
>> Thanks, Kellie.
>>
>> Is the lock  of a locked phone on the phone hardware or part of the Sim?
>> Just curious.
>>
>> Once unlocked, whether it's the phone hardware or the Sim, can I transfer
>> the Sim to a new phone and it will work?
>>
>> I'm hoping to avoid being manipulated by Verizon into a 2-year Service
>> contract, but would like to keep Verizon service for a while at least on a
>> monthly basis before possibly switching to another provider. That's why
>> I'm curious whether Verizon would need to get involved with activation of
>> a new phone using the old sim from the unlocked phone.
>>
>> Thanks, Keith
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not
>> Support CDMA Networks
>>
>> Keith,
>>
>> You likely did not pay full price for your phone when you entered into
>> your contract with Verizon.  Once you pay for your obligation, your iPhone
>> does not know that you are paid in full with your phone company.  Verizon
>> needs to authorize the unlocking of your phone.
>> Often this can be done online.  Folks at a Verizon store can help too.
>> If Verizon employees ignore your request to unlock your off contract
>> phone, then you can take steps to insist Verizon allow you full access to
>> your fully paid property.  Post if Verizon is giving you hassles when you
>> seek phone freedom.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/16, Kramlinger, Keith G.  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I’m curious how this works.
>>>
>>> I have an iPhone 6 with Verizon that comes off contract in October. If
>>> I buy an unlocked phone from Apple when available, can I just transfer
>>> my iPhone 6 sim card into the new phone, and that’s it. Or, would
>>> Verizon need to get involved somehow with the new phone activation,
>>> and would that be problematic?
>>>
>>> Also, I seem to recall that phones of that generation were already
>>> unlocked.
>>> Is that the case, or will I need to get Verizon to unlock the iPhone 6?
>>>
>>> Many thanks. Keith
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Cristóbal
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not
>>> Support CDMA Networks
>>>
>>> You can just wait a few weeks until they release an unlocked version.
>>> I think last year, unlocked phones started popping  up around  the
>>> beginning of November. This is  what I plan on doing as I have nearly
>>> $200.00 in redeemable BestBuy points that I‘m going to use to offset the
>>> phone’s cost.
>>> If you  want to  go for last year’s model, the Apple store is selling
>>> the 6S, 6S Plus and SE unlocked. I think the SE 64GB dropped to
>>> $450.00 for example.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not
>>> Support CDMA Networks
>>>
>>> OK, let's say you go through the Apple store online and buy an
>>> unlocked phone. But apparently, you have to declare a carrier. So if
>>> you declare T-Mobile or AT, then pay for your phone, will you be
>>> getting one with one of those modems that won't work on the CDMA? I
>>> guess the safe thing would be to declare Verizon or Sprint.
>>> Mary
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Miller Family
>>> > wrote:
>>> I always buy my phone outright and unlocked, so this will make no
>>> difference to me.  But I wonder about those who try to switch simm cards
>>> for traveling?
>>>  This could be a deal breaker for them.
>>> Checkout my groups
>>> Come be sole out for Christ!
>>> https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life>> EF7-45C5-9150-4F5EAD6C0236/%22> Come learn and teach about apple
>>> products!
>>> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple>> 150-4F5EAD6C0236/%22>
>>> Come chat about any and everything
>>> https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic>> 150-4F5EAD6C0236/%22>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten
>>> 

Returning an audible book using your i-device

[Mary Otten]

For the past several months, it has been possible to return an audible book you 
purchase if you did not like it. I have done this on occasion using my 
computer. But apparently, you can't do it from an iPhone. Maybe I'm missing 
something. Has anybody had experience successfully returning a book using your 
iPhone or iPad?
Mary


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Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
and this for me is the beauty of lists such as this.  Though they sometimes 
stray and get mired down in ancillary stuff from time to time they are also 
places where the milk of human kindness has not yet run dry and through the 
kindness of others we can all learn something new.  Peter and Conrad I bow 
to your greatness you're legends.  Thank you just as Conrad described it 
actually did just work for me.  I could indeed reproduce it and hopefully 
will be able to use it again in future.  It is not the most straightforward 
on screen element I've ever seen but it can indeed be used.
Again I sincerely and warmly thank you and appreciate your willingness to 
teach this wee girl something new today.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Conrad Bennett

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
through AT


I just tried it with the iOS app it worked well you have to double tap and 
hold on the collar for a few seconds then it will come up with the option to 
select the color that you want then you tap to select the link toward the 
bottom of the screen


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

I'm not with AT, but I have been an AT custoemr before, and can
recall many instances on their site where there were accessibility
issues. Good luck in your dialog with them. I hope they fix their
issues.

Wayne


On 9/9/16, Robin Frost  wrote:
Hi,
My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list 
but
since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as well 
as

touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of 
upgrading

a device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via their
site with a screen reader?
My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and 
on

the web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements
which for some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site 
using

VoiceOver or a screen reader.
Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully 
improve
their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be 
helpful

to gage the experiences of others should there be any.
It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of 
moving
through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you 
were
to select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a 
link
for instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any 
other
gesture you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were 
good

and stuck with no way forward.
On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and storage
capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine 
but
list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 
windows
screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the 
continue

links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were
quite tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that
which I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively 
communicate

with AT in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going
forward.  By and large I feel AT has done a decent job concerning
accessibility both in their iOS app and on site.  Here’s hoping this 
glitchy

area can be ironed out too.
Robin

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Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Can you describe in greater detail for instance as someone else selected 
color did you use the same method? And was capacity a similar on screen 
element?

Thanks for teaching me.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Peter Logan

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
through AT


I had absolutely no issues using their app… Maybe it was just really 
congested yesterday…


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,
Wow it did not perform that way yesterday at all.  I could have held it 
for a decade and nothing changed and could you find the element to select 
capacity? Just curious. Thanks bunches for reporting back.

Robin (who wishes she could test this out now, hmm)

-Original Message- From: Conrad Bennett
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
through AT


I just tried it with the iOS app it worked well you have to double tap and 
hold on the collar for a few seconds then it will come up with the option 
to select the color that you want then you tap to select the link toward 
the bottom of the screen


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

I'm not with AT, but I have been an AT custoemr before, and can
recall many instances on their site where there were accessibility
issues. Good luck in your dialog with them. I hope they fix their
issues.

Wayne


On 9/9/16, Robin Frost  wrote:
Hi,
My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list 
but
since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as 
well as

touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of 
upgrading
a device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via 
their

site with a screen reader?
My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and 
on

the web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements
which for some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site 
using

VoiceOver or a screen reader.
Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully 
improve
their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be 
helpful

to gage the experiences of others should there be any.
It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of 
moving
through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you 
were
to select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a 
link
for instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any 
other
gesture you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were 
good

and stuck with no way forward.
On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and 
storage
capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine 
but
list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 
windows
screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the 
continue

links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were
quite tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that
which I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively 
communicate

with AT in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going
forward.  By and large I feel AT has done a decent job concerning
accessibility both in their iOS app and on site.  Here’s hoping this 
glitchy

area can be ironed out too.
Robin

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Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Peter Logan]

I had absolutely no issues using their app… Maybe it was just really congested 
yesterday…

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Wow it did not perform that way yesterday at all.  I could have held it for a 
> decade and nothing changed and could you find the element to select capacity? 
> Just curious. Thanks bunches for reporting back.
> Robin (who wishes she could test this out now, hmm)
> 
> -Original Message- From: Conrad Bennett
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
> through AT
> 
> I just tried it with the iOS app it worked well you have to double tap and 
> hold on the collar for a few seconds then it will come up with the option to 
> select the color that you want then you tap to select the link toward the 
> bottom of the screen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not with AT, but I have been an AT custoemr before, and can
>> recall many instances on their site where there were accessibility
>> issues. Good luck in your dialog with them. I hope they fix their
>> issues.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 9/9/16, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list but
>>> since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as well as
>>> touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
>>> I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of upgrading
>>> a device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via their
>>> site with a screen reader?
>>> My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and on
>>> the web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements
>>> which for some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site using
>>> VoiceOver or a screen reader.
>>> Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully improve
>>> their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be helpful
>>> to gage the experiences of others should there be any.
>>> It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of moving
>>> through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you were
>>> to select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a link
>>> for instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any other
>>> gesture you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were good
>>> and stuck with no way forward.
>>> On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and storage
>>> capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine but
>>> list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 windows
>>> screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the continue
>>> links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were
>>> quite tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
>>> If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that
>>> which I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively communicate
>>> with AT in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going
>>> forward.  By and large I feel AT has done a decent job concerning
>>> accessibility both in their iOS app and on site.  Here’s hoping this glitchy
>>> area can be ironed out too.
>>> Robin
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Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Wow it did not perform that way yesterday at all.  I could have held it for 
a decade and nothing changed and could you find the element to select 
capacity? Just curious. Thanks bunches for reporting back.

Robin (who wishes she could test this out now, hmm)

-Original Message- 
From: Conrad Bennett

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 
through AT


I just tried it with the iOS app it worked well you have to double tap and 
hold on the collar for a few seconds then it will come up with the option to 
select the color that you want then you tap to select the link toward the 
bottom of the screen


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

I'm not with AT, but I have been an AT custoemr before, and can
recall many instances on their site where there were accessibility
issues. Good luck in your dialog with them. I hope they fix their
issues.

Wayne


On 9/9/16, Robin Frost  wrote:
Hi,
My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list 
but
since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as well 
as

touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of 
upgrading

a device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via their
site with a screen reader?
My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and 
on

the web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements
which for some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site 
using

VoiceOver or a screen reader.
Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully 
improve
their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be 
helpful

to gage the experiences of others should there be any.
It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of 
moving
through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you 
were
to select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a 
link
for instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any 
other
gesture you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were 
good

and stuck with no way forward.
On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and storage
capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine 
but
list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 
windows
screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the 
continue

links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were
quite tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that
which I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively 
communicate

with AT in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going
forward.  By and large I feel AT has done a decent job concerning
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Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA Networks

[Christopher Chaltain]

The lock is associated with the phone and not the sim card. This is why 
you can't put a sim card from another carrier into your locked phone and 
use it.


On 10/09/16 17:47, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Thanks, Kellie.

Is the lock  of a locked phone on the phone hardware or part of the Sim? Just 
curious.

Once unlocked, whether it's the phone hardware or the Sim, can I transfer the 
Sim to a new phone and it will work?

I'm hoping to avoid being manipulated by Verizon into a 2-year Service 
contract, but would like to keep Verizon service for a while at least on a 
monthly basis before possibly switching to another provider. That's why I'm 
curious whether Verizon would need to get involved with activation of a new 
phone using the old sim from the unlocked phone.

Thanks, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support 
CDMA Networks

Keith,

You likely did not pay full price for your phone when you entered into your 
contract with Verizon.  Once you pay for your obligation, your iPhone does not 
know that you are paid in full with your phone company.  Verizon needs to 
authorize the unlocking of your phone.
Often this can be done online.  Folks at a Verizon store can help too.
If Verizon employees ignore your request to unlock your off contract phone, 
then you can take steps to insist Verizon allow you full access to your fully 
paid property.  Post if Verizon is giving you hassles when you seek phone 
freedom.

Kelly




On 9/9/16, Kramlinger, Keith G.  wrote:

Hi,

I’m curious how this works.

I have an iPhone 6 with Verizon that comes off contract in October. If
I buy an unlocked phone from Apple when available, can I just transfer
my iPhone 6 sim card into the new phone, and that’s it. Or, would
Verizon need to get involved somehow with the new phone activation,
and would that be problematic?

Also, I seem to recall that phones of that generation were already unlocked.
Is that the case, or will I need to get Verizon to unlock the iPhone 6?

Many thanks. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not
Support CDMA Networks

You can just wait a few weeks until they release an unlocked version.
I think last year, unlocked phones started popping  up around  the
beginning of November. This is  what I plan on doing as I have nearly
$200.00 in redeemable BestBuy points that I‘m going to use to offset the 
phone’s cost.
If you  want to  go for last year’s model, the Apple store is selling
the 6S, 6S Plus and SE unlocked. I think the SE 64GB dropped to
$450.00 for example.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not
Support CDMA Networks

OK, let's say you go through the Apple store online and buy an
unlocked phone. But apparently, you have to declare a carrier. So if
you declare T-Mobile or AT, then pay for your phone, will you be
getting one with one of those modems that won't work on the CDMA? I
guess the safe thing would be to declare Verizon or Sprint.
Mary
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten
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I have to admit, this article did make me wonder if there were any
other substantive differences between these modems. I had no clue,
before seeing this article, that only the QUALCOMM modems supported
all of the different network types. I have no interest in going back
to Verizon, so for me personally, it probably doesn't matter. On the
other hand, what else is hidden?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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> wrote:
Wow. Thanks very much for this, Mary.

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RE: What are the additional functions of the Home button on the new iPhone 7's?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

So what does a force touch of the Home button do?Is it different from Lock 
Screen and when unlocked?

Thanks, Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
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iPhone 7's?

This is just an iPhone feature.  They have added force touch to the home button.

Chris


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What are the additional functions of the Home button on the new iPhone 7’s? Is 
this only on the iPhone 7’s, and not part of iOS 10?

Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: What are the additional functions of the Home button on the new iPhone 7's?

[Chris Chaffin]

This is an iPhone 7 feature, not an ios 10 feature.
So no, it will not be available to the 6s or 6s plus.

Chris


> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:05 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> ForceTouch OtherWiseKnownAs 3DTouch ... Does that ApplyTo Older iPhones 
> Especially the iPhone6S+ since both ComeEquippedWith 3DTouch 
> ForceTouch
> IfSo, I Presume
> it will be IncludedWith the iOS10 UpDate
> 
> At 05:01 PM 9/10/2016, you wrote:
>> This is just an iPhone feature.  They have added force touch to the home 
>> button.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. < 
>>> kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> What are the additional functions of the Home button on the new iPhone 
>>> 7’s? Is this only on the iPhone 7’s, and not part of iOS 10?
>>>  
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Re: What are the additional functions of the Home button on the new iPhone 7's?

[Robin]

ForceTouch OtherWiseKnownAs 3DTouch ... Does that 
ApplyTo Older iPhones Especially the 
iPhone6S+ since both ComeEquippedWith 3DTouch ForceTouch

IfSo, I Presume
it will be IncludedWith the iOS10 UpDate

At 05:01 PM 9/10/2016, you wrote:
This is just an iPhone feature.  They have added 
force touch to the home button.


Chris


On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Kramlinger, Keith 
G., M.D. <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:



Hi,

What are the additional functions of the Home 
button on the new iPhone 7’s? Is this only on 
the iPhone 7’s, and not part of iOS 10?


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Re: What are the additional functions of the Home button on the new iPhone 7's?

[Chris Chaffin]

This is just an iPhone feature.  They have added force touch to the home button.

Chris


> On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
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> Hi,
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> Is this only on the iPhone 7’s, and not part of iOS 10?
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Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

[Jenifer Barr]

I was wondering this same thing... As there was only one option. 

Jenifer Barr
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> On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Robin  wrote:
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> Will TheSale of ... iOS10 WithOut The i ... Include FREE UpDates as iOS10 IS 
> UpDated 
> JustWonderin'
> At 09:02 AM 9/10/2016, you wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I have been purchasing Jonathan’s series since IOS 7 and never have I 
>> regretted my purchases.  They are well written books that help everyone 
>> from the beginner to the advanced using language that everyone can relate 
>> to. I am eagerly awating my copy of IOS 10 without the EYE which I 
>> pre-ordered almost 1 month ago. I always read the book cover to cover to get 
>> a feeling on the day it comes out.  A day or so later, I download the IOS 
>> and begin to practice with the phone in one hand and Jonathan’s book in 
>> the other on my Victor Stream and proceed feature by feature.  Of course I 
>> forget some things but, the books are so well written that I can go back and 
>> randomly find what I need.
>>  
>> Congratulations Jonathan for a job well done.
>>  
>> Ron & Danvers
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 7:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?
>>  
>> Thanks Jenifer, that's really kind of you and I appreciate it.
>> Yes, Tuesday's the day, at 10 AM Pacific.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>>  
>> On 9/09/2016, at 8:45 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>  
>> Thank you Jonathan.
>> Am I to assume correctly that IOS 10 comes out Tuesday?  No, I didn't
>> listen to the keynote this past week, I wasn't able to and as the
>> iPhone 7 is not on my radar I didn't feel the need.  I'm rather bummed
>> I missed the one in June where IOS 10 was featured, but alas.
>> This is by far, handsdown, the most well-written series of books
>> written for the blind for IOS.  If anyone has never purchased any of
>> the IOS without the I series yet, I would strongly recommend you do
>> so.  Justsayin.  Cutos to Jonathan for providing this series.
>> Jen
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/8/16, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
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>> Hi Jenifer, I didn't post it here, but I did post it to the Mosen Consulting
>> Twitter feed, @MosenConsulting, and to our own announcements list. The URL
>> is:
>> http://www.mosen.org/ios10 < http://www.mosen.org/ios10>
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for your interest.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/09/2016, at 1:27 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Did I miss an email with the info to preorder ios 10 without the I... If
>> there will be one?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Jenifer Barr
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What are the additional functions of the Home button on the new iPhone 7's?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

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RE: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA Networks

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks, Kellie.

Is the lock  of a locked phone on the phone hardware or part of the Sim? Just 
curious.

Once unlocked, whether it's the phone hardware or the Sim, can I transfer the 
Sim to a new phone and it will work?

I'm hoping to avoid being manipulated by Verizon into a 2-year Service 
contract, but would like to keep Verizon service for a while at least on a 
monthly basis before possibly switching to another provider. That's why I'm 
curious whether Verizon would need to get involved with activation of a new 
phone using the old sim from the unlocked phone.

Thanks, Keith

-Original Message-
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Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:35 PM
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CDMA Networks

Keith,

You likely did not pay full price for your phone when you entered into your 
contract with Verizon.  Once you pay for your obligation, your iPhone does not 
know that you are paid in full with your phone company.  Verizon needs to 
authorize the unlocking of your phone.
Often this can be done online.  Folks at a Verizon store can help too.
If Verizon employees ignore your request to unlock your off contract phone, 
then you can take steps to insist Verizon allow you full access to your fully 
paid property.  Post if Verizon is giving you hassles when you seek phone 
freedom.

Kelly




On 9/9/16, Kramlinger, Keith G.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’m curious how this works.
>
> I have an iPhone 6 with Verizon that comes off contract in October. If 
> I buy an unlocked phone from Apple when available, can I just transfer 
> my iPhone 6 sim card into the new phone, and that’s it. Or, would 
> Verizon need to get involved somehow with the new phone activation, 
> and would that be problematic?
>
> Also, I seem to recall that phones of that generation were already unlocked.
> Is that the case, or will I need to get Verizon to unlock the iPhone 6?
>
> Many thanks. Keith
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not 
> Support CDMA Networks
>
> You can just wait a few weeks until they release an unlocked version. 
> I think last year, unlocked phones started popping  up around  the 
> beginning of November. This is  what I plan on doing as I have nearly 
> $200.00 in redeemable BestBuy points that I‘m going to use to offset the 
> phone’s cost.
> If you  want to  go for last year’s model, the Apple store is selling 
> the 6S, 6S Plus and SE unlocked. I think the SE 64GB dropped to 
> $450.00 for example.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT and T-Mobile Do Not 
> Support CDMA Networks
>
> OK, let's say you go through the Apple store online and buy an 
> unlocked phone. But apparently, you have to declare a carrier. So if 
> you declare T-Mobile or AT, then pay for your phone, will you be 
> getting one with one of those modems that won't work on the CDMA? I 
> guess the safe thing would be to declare Verizon or Sprint.
> Mary
> ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Miller Family 
> > wrote:
> I always buy my phone outright and unlocked, so this will make no 
> difference to me.  But I wonder about those who try to switch simm cards for 
> traveling?
>  This could be a deal breaker for them.
> Checkout my groups
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>
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten 
> > wrote:
>
> I have to admit, this article did make me wonder if there were any 
> other substantive differences between these modems. I had no clue, 
> before seeing this article, that only the QUALCOMM modems supported 
> all of the different network types. I have no interest in going back 
> to Verizon, so for me personally, it probably doesn't matter. On the 
> other hand, what else is hidden?
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
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RE: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

[Robin]

Will TheSale of ... iOS10 WithOut The i ... 
Include FREE UpDates as iOS10 IS UpDated

JustWonderin'
At 09:02 AM 9/10/2016, you wrote:

Hi all,

I have been purchasing Jonathan’s series since 
IOS 7 and never have I regretted my 
purchases.  They are well written books that 
help everyone from the beginner to the advanced 
using language that everyone can relate to. I am 
eagerly awating my copy of IOS 10 without the 
EYE which I pre-ordered almost 1 month ago. I 
always read the book cover to cover to get a 
feeling on the day it comes out.  A day or so 
later, I download the IOS and begin to practice 
with the phone in one hand and Jonathan’s book 
in the other on my Victor Stream and proceed 
feature by feature.  Of course I forget some 
things but, the books are so well written that I 
can go back and randomly find what I need.


Congratulations Jonathan for a job well done.

Ron & Danvers


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen

Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Did I miss it again... Jonathan's new book preorder?

Thanks Jenifer, that's really kind of you and I appreciate it.
Yes, Tuesday's the day, at 10 AM Pacific.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 9/09/2016, at 8:45 PM, Jenifer Barr 
<claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thank you Jonathan.
Am I to assume correctly that IOS 10 comes out Tuesday?  No, I didn't
listen to the keynote this past week, I wasn't able to and as the
iPhone 7 is not on my radar I didn't feel the need.  I'm rather bummed
I missed the one in June where IOS 10 was featured, but alas.
This is by far, handsdown, the most well-written series of books
written for the blind for IOS.  If anyone has never purchased any of
the IOS without the I series yet, I would strongly recommend you do
so.  Justsayin.  Cutos to Jonathan for providing this series.
Jen


On 9/8/16, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:

Hi Jenifer, I didn't post it here, but I did post it to the Mosen Consulting
Twitter feed, @MosenConsulting, and to our own announcements list. The URL
is:
http://www.mosen.org/ios10 



Thanks a lot for your interest.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


On 9/09/2016, at 1:27 AM, Jenifer Barr 
<claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi all.
Did I miss an email with the info to preorder ios 10 without the I... If
there will be one?
Thanks.


Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
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Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Conrad Bennett]

I just tried it with the iOS app it worked well you have to double tap and hold 
on the collar for a few seconds then it will come up with the option to select 
the color that you want then you tap to select the link toward the bottom of 
the screen

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> 
> I'm not with AT, but I have been an AT custoemr before, and can
> recall many instances on their site where there were accessibility
> issues. Good luck in your dialog with them. I hope they fix their
> issues.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 9/9/16, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list but
>> since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as well as
>> touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
>> I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of upgrading
>> a device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via their
>> site with a screen reader?
>> My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and on
>> the web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements
>> which for some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site using
>> VoiceOver or a screen reader.
>> Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully improve
>> their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be helpful
>> to gage the experiences of others should there be any.
>> It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of moving
>> through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you were
>> to select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a link
>> for instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any other
>> gesture you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were good
>> and stuck with no way forward.
>> On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and storage
>> capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine but
>> list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 windows
>> screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the continue
>> links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were
>> quite tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
>> If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that
>> which I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively communicate
>> with AT in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going
>> forward.  By and large I feel AT has done a decent job concerning
>> accessibility both in their iOS app and on site.  Here’s hoping this glitchy
>> area can be ironed out too.
>> Robin
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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello,
I know you were looking for a free app, but I can say that even though the app 
is not free, Voice Dream Writer will do what you want.
You can open files in Writer directly from Dropbox, then you can edit or add to 
the file, and once you are done, you can export the file back to dropbox saving 
over the original file.
I just tried it myself, and it worked just fine.

Voice Dream Writer is a very good app, still has support from the developer, 
and has a lot of great features.  Here is the app store link:

Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC
https://appsto.re/us/8UV32.i

Hope this helps!

Chris


> On Sep 10, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
> 
> Ok, all access note seems to be able too do is add files to dropbox.
> I want to be able too work on files already in my db folders.
> Thanks for the suggestion though, Wayne, I appreciate it.
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Wayne, I'll check that app out.
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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>>> Cheryl: you might try AccessNote from AFB. That app is free and you
>>> can save your files directly to Dropbox. I don't recall offhand if the
>>> saves happen automatically or if you have to tell it to save. Either
>>> way, it might work for what you want.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> Wayne
>>> 
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 That sounds like exactly what I want. Unfortunately it's not free and 
 hasn't
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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Wayne Merritt]

I don't recall how much it was, but you might check out Plain Text,
which can save files to Dropbox. Or, perhaps even Microsoft Word if
you want to go all out.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 9/10/16, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
> Ok, all access note seems to be able too do is add files to dropbox.
> I want to be able too work on files already in my db folders.
> Thanks for the suggestion though, Wayne, I appreciate it.
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>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
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>> Thanks, Wayne, I'll check that app out.
>>
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>>> can save your files directly to Dropbox. I don't recall offhand if the
>>> saves happen automatically or if you have to tell it to save. Either
>>> way, it might work for what you want.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Wayne
>>>
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Robin]

I Think You're Wrong AsItPertainsTo the HeadphoneJack bein' Gone ForGood

Drastic Reduction IN Sales of Apple's 
iPhone7+ could Propel Apple to BringItBack


TimCook IS No SteveJobs & TimCook would 
BringItBack, but if this was SteveJobs, Then the 
HeadphoneJack WouldBe GoneForGood

JustSayin'
At 05:25 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
I suspect you're right that the headphone jack 
is gone for good, but it's definitely true if 
anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let 
Apple know how much they miss it. There's also 
no reason  Apple couldn't put the headphone jack 
back in a future device, although like I said, I would doubt it.


I'm also not sure how much of my regret over 
missing the headphone jack is because I'm blind. 
I suppose I use my headphones more than my 
sighted peers because I'll tend to grab them 
every time I just want to check the lock screen, 
but I don't think it's just blind users who'll 
be wishing their new phone had a headphone jack 
on it that they've taken for granted on all of their electronics for years.


It also sounds like you're saying we, especially 
as blind consumers, shouldn't criticize Apple 
for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you 
just talking about Apple or all companies? Are 
you just talking about blind consumers or all 
consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to 
get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to 
criticize a decision Apple made. I for one don't 
think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going 
to assume that they'll never make a mistake and 
they always know what's best for me. This isn't 
a knock on Apple, but just those who think we 
should just be thankful for whatever Apple 
decides we as consumers and blind consumers should be happy with.


On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and 
I think we should move on.  Apple made that 
decision years ago and every blind user in the 
world wasn't going to alter that 
decision.  Charging while listening isn't a big 
deal for me but I'm retired and don't use my 
phone all that much for calling anyway.  If I 
need power sooner, I'll buy the Belcan thingie.



-Original Message-
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg

Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:23 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com Strømberg" 
Cc: Terje Strømberg 
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats 
iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the sales figures. Don’t 
think so, but …… Camera is too oo important for sighted people.


Take care



8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore :

You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 
7, maybe the 8 will go back to the old plug.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

You figured that something like this was 
eventually going to come out by a mainstream 
company  or via a kickstarter campaign.

Off putting though  that you have to shell out an extra $40.00 for
something that’s not even really a mobile 
solution. Curious to see what kind of battery 
pack designs these same companies are going to 
come up with for those of us who may want  or 
need that extra backup. There goes another 
$40.00 or $80.00 or  whatever on top of 
everything else. That and what type of 
solution they’re going to come up with  for 
all the credit  card swipers that are so 
ubiquitous Appel was actually getting credit 
yesterday for only selling the replacement 
dongles for $9.00, but I guess this shows 
they’re going to get their pound of flesh one  way or another.

Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this 
kind of product in the box, but for those who 
want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns 
about the lack of ability to use wired 
headphones and charge, here's the solution.

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iph
one-7/
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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RE: new iPhone from scratch

[Louise Johnson]

Hi reggie, I just did this about two months ago.

 

If you have things backed up in the cloudwhen you set up the new phone it will 
download all to the new phone.

 

Yes the biggest thing is settings. Charge the old phone just before you start 
all of this.

 

I don’t know how much you are allowed to back up others can help you with this. 
I just lost a  few passwords and that wasn’t hard to reset. 

 

Questions from all what should we be backing up so if we need to reset the 
phone. Does the phone allow apps to back up as at the time I only had two and 
they did come back. Louise and princess Kiara 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Regina Alvarado
Sent: September 10, 2016 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new iPhone from scratch

 

I am with Sprint, but the website is as unfriendly and confusing as the 
gentleman said att's. I will be ordering my 7 tonight with the help of a 
friend, however. I do have a friend who contacted ATT and received excellent 
help. I called Sprint and essentially was
told to go to the website. That turns out fine because on line I will get a 256 
gig and they will waive 30 dollar activation fee so worth hassle. 

Anyway, I have always gone to a store and had the phone set up there. What 
should my first step be besides getting VO on? I am baffled by iTunes so need 
to use iCloud. If I have to download all my apps I guess I will, but I just do 
not know how to begin the setup. Deeply appreciated if a much more techie 
person than me could step by step get me started!!! 

 

reggie & Lex

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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Robin]

It's Possible
that Apple's iPhoneSE, which was Released Earlier 
ThisYear,2016-Spring2016 WillSurpass its NEW iPhones IN Sales Over the LongRun


But that doesn't NecessarilyMean it's BecauseOf 
TheLoss or TheRemoval of its HeadphoneJack


It could simply be SizeAlone

Because SizeMatters

SteveJobs would HaveNever FollowedTrends because SteveJobs CreatedTrends
or
So SteveJobs believes HeDoes

Does AnyOne recall ... SteveJobs sayin' you can 
have AnyColor, So long as it's Black

HaHa (smile) HaHa

Personally, Apple's & TimCook's 
Rationale-Justification for its Removal of the 
HeadphoneJack doesn't HoldWater or Standin' 
because Samsung has Proved a MobilePhone can have 
a HeadphoneJack & Clickable HomeButton & StillBe WaterResistent

JustSayin'
At 02:22 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
It would be cool if iPhone SE with 3.5mm beats 
iPhone 7, 7+ hard on the sales figures. Don’t 
think so, but …… Camera is too im important for sighted people.


Take care


> 8. sep. 2016 kl. 23.28 skrev Donald Moore :
>
> You know, if enough people forego the iPhone 
7, maybe the 8 will go back to the old plug.

>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal

> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>
> You figured that something like this was 
eventually going to come out by a mainstream 
company  or via a kickstarter campaign.
> Off putting though  that you have to shell 
out an extra $40.00 for something that’s not 
even really a mobile solution. Curious to see 
what kind of battery pack designs these same 
companies are going to come up with for those 
of us who may want  or need that extra backup. 
There goes another $40.00 or $80.00 
or  whatever on top of everything else. That 
and what type of solution they’re going to 
come up with  for all the credit  card swipers that are so ubiquitous
> Appel was actually getting credit yesterday 
for only selling the replacement dongles for 
$9.00, but I guess this shows they’re going 
to get their pound of flesh one  way or another.

> Those dongles are probably viewed as a lost  leader anyway.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen

> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:47 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need
>
> Hi all, I really wish Apple had shipped this 
kind of product in the box, but for those who 
want to upgrade and had legitimate concerns 
about the lack of ability to use wired 
headphones and charge, here's the solution.
> 
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/belkin-lightning-audio-adapter-iphone-7/

> Jonathan Mosen
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> http://Mosen.org
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Are the new wireless Airbuds A2DP capable?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I was just wondering if anyone has heard or found information on whether the 
new Apple Wireless Airbuds are A2DP capable?

I've tried searching in Google but haven't found anything.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

Ok, all access note seems to be able too do is add files to dropbox.
I want to be able too work on files already in my db folders.
Thanks for the suggestion though, Wayne, I appreciate it.

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> Thanks, Wayne, I'll check that app out.
> 
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>> can save your files directly to Dropbox. I don't recall offhand if the
>> saves happen automatically or if you have to tell it to save. Either
>> way, it might work for what you want.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 9/9/16, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
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>>> been updated since 2013.
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Re: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Regina Alvarado]

I went into both settings control center and directly into control center but 
saw nothing but volume which was the volume I currently put my volume button 
to. I have my sounds alerts and ringtone set to 100 percent and button changes 
off. If I turned button changes on would this make a difference in being able 
to control clicks and phone sounds? I turned it off because I definitely want 
my phone to ring at 100 percent but sometimes have my volume with VO lower than 
100 percent. Thanks for any help.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:

Thanks, Chris! The volume in my Control Centre, as you suggested, needed 
turning up! What a relief! Appreciate the help. Harry

> On 10 Sep 2016, at 15:44, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
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> 
> Have you checked out the volume in the control center?
> 
> From what I can tell, there is 3 different volume controls.
> The volume control located in settings / sounds is your ringer volume.
> The volume control in the control is your system sounds.
> And, the volume control on the rotor is your voice over volume.
> 
> Now all 3 of these volume settings are independent of each other, but can be 
> adjusted all at the same time with the volume buttons on the side of your 
> device.  But please know that by using the volume buttons on the side, one of 
> the volumes can get turned way down or even turned down to 0 while the others 
> are still working just fine.
> So the first thing I would do is to check the volume in your control center 
> to see if that got turned down.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
>> when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
>> click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes 
>> have registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings 
>> but nothing improves. How do others on the list manage? Thanks. Harry
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Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

Thanks, Wayne, I'll check that app out.

> On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> can save your files directly to Dropbox. I don't recall offhand if the
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> way, it might work for what you want.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne
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>> been updated since 2013.
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Re: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Harry Bell]

Thanks, Chris! The volume in my Control Centre, as you suggested, needed 
turning up! What a relief! Appreciate the help. Harry

> On 10 Sep 2016, at 15:44, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Have you checked out the volume in the control center?
> 
> From what I can tell, there is 3 different volume controls.
> The volume control located in settings / sounds is your ringer volume.
> The volume control in the control is your system sounds.
> And, the volume control on the rotor is your voice over volume.
> 
> Now all 3 of these volume settings are independent of each other, but can be 
> adjusted all at the same time with the volume buttons on the side of your 
> device.  But please know that by using the volume buttons on the side, one of 
> the volumes can get turned way down or even turned down to 0 while the others 
> are still working just fine.
> So the first thing I would do is to check the volume in your control center 
> to see if that got turned down.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
>> when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
>> click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes 
>> have registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings 
>> but nothing improves. How do others on the list manage? Thanks. Harry
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Dave]

no. you have to buy them separatly.

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Instead they are offering the $150 Air pods?

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Merritt

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

In addition, as has been said before elsewhere, they may be removing
the headphone jack this year so they can really wow everyone with
something special next year. As one podcaster pointed out this week,
this year the main topic of conversation is the headphone jack
disappearing. While next year, everyone or most people will have moved
on from that and will be talking about whatever special item they're
working on for the 10 year iPhone. I don't like it any better than
other people, but at least they're helping to ease the transition by
including an adaptor in the box this year. They could just as easily
charge $20 or $30 for that $9 adaptor, and make us buy it as an
accessory.

Wayne

On 9/9/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when
it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones
still have a headphone jack.

IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being
well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure
what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any
improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones,
you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure,
you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for
now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the
headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.

I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that
have been added and not those that have been removed.

On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are
much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be
addressing in my opinion.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but
it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let
Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't
put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I
would doubt it.

I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack
is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted
peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the
lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing
their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for
granted on all of their electronics for years.

It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers,
shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you
just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about
blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to
get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made.
I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume
that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best for
me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just
be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind
consumers should be happy with.

On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move
on.  Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the
world wasn't going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening
isn't a big deal for me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all
that 

Re: Editing files in dropbox

[Wayne Merritt]

Cheryl: you might try AccessNote from AFB. That app is free and you
can save your files directly to Dropbox. I don't recall offhand if the
saves happen automatically or if you have to tell it to save. Either
way, it might work for what you want.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 9/9/16, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
> That sounds like exactly what I want. Unfortunately it's not free and hasn't
> been updated since 2013.
>
>>
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new iPhone from scratch

[Regina Alvarado]

I am with Sprint, but the website is as unfriendly and confusing as the 
gentleman said att's. I will be ordering my 7 tonight with the help of a 
friend, however. I do have a friend who contacted ATT and received excellent 
help. I called Sprint and essentially was
told to go to the website. That turns out fine because on line I will get a 256 
gig and they will waive 30 dollar activation fee so worth hassle. 

Anyway, I have always gone to a store and had the phone set up there. What 
should my first step be besides getting VO on? I am baffled by iTunes so need 
to use iCloud. If I have to download all my apps I guess I will, but I just do 
not know how to begin the setup. Deeply appreciated if a much more techie 
person than me could step by step get me started!!! 


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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Marie]

Instead they are offering the $150 Air pods?

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Merritt

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

In addition, as has been said before elsewhere, they may be removing
the headphone jack this year so they can really wow everyone with
something special next year. As one podcaster pointed out this week,
this year the main topic of conversation is the headphone jack
disappearing. While next year, everyone or most people will have moved
on from that and will be talking about whatever special item they're
working on for the 10 year iPhone. I don't like it any better than
other people, but at least they're helping to ease the transition by
including an adaptor in the box this year. They could just as easily
charge $20 or $30 for that $9 adaptor, and make us buy it as an
accessory.

Wayne

On 9/9/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when
it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones
still have a headphone jack.

IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being
well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure
what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any
improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones,
you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure,
you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for
now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the
headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.

I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that
have been added and not those that have been removed.

On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:

As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are
much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be
addressing in my opinion.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:

I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but
it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let
Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't
put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I
would doubt it.

I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack
is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted
peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the
lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing
their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for
granted on all of their electronics for years.

It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers,
shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you
just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about
blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to
get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made.
I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume
that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best for
me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just
be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind
consumers should be happy with.

On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move
on.  Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the
world wasn't going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening
isn't a big deal for me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all
that much for calling anyway.  If I need power sooner, I'll buy the
Belcan thingie.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 

Re: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Regina Alvarado]

Wonderful thought Louise. You are becoming a real iPhone user. [smiles) By the 
way, there is a very soft click at each press, and it must be in my decibels of 
hearing. However, I really have to listen for them so going to try Louise's 
suggestion if I can't just use the fingerprint sensor.

reggie & Lex

On Sep 10, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Louise Johnson  wrote:

Okay this is one way to know if you have entered it. Pick numbers that have 
letters and you can hear them and that means you have pushed the right key or 
number. Louise and princess Kiara 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: September 10, 2016 5:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

Hi, Afik! You are right that VoiceOver doesn't read out our Apple ID password 
but I was asking about the pass code we enter on the lock screen when we turn 
our iPhone on. VoiceOver booms out the digits but the clicks are inaudible. 
Harry

> On 10 Sep 2016, at 13:27, Afik Sofir  wrote:
> 
> Hi harry,
> 
> For me the situation is the same.
> I think VO doesn’t speak when entering the pass code, because of security 
> pherpesses.
> 
> I hope I'm helping you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:24 PM
> To: Abridged Recipients
> Subject: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen
> 
> I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
> when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
> click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes 
> have registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings 
> but nothing improves. How do others on the list manage? Thanks. Harry
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Re: Belkin's coming out with the adapter some of us need

[Wayne Merritt]

In addition, as has been said before elsewhere, they may be removing
the headphone jack this year so they can really wow everyone with
something special next year. As one podcaster pointed out this week,
this year the main topic of conversation is the headphone jack
disappearing. While next year, everyone or most people will have moved
on from that and will be talking about whatever special item they're
working on for the 10 year iPhone. I don't like it any better than
other people, but at least they're helping to ease the transition by
including an adaptor in the box this year. They could just as easily
charge $20 or $30 for that $9 adaptor, and make us buy it as an
accessory.

Wayne

On 9/9/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> There is at least one Android handset that beat Apple to the punch when
> it came to removing the headphone jack, but most of the Android phones
> still have a headphone jack.
>
> IMHO, it'll be hard to tell for Apple to tell if the iPhone 7 is being
> well received just because they removed the headphone jack. I'm not sure
> what removing the headphone jack actually buys anyone right now. Any
> improved audio fidelity you get with the Lightning connected headphones,
> you would still see even if the headphone jack was still there. Sure,
> you may see thinner and more waterproof phones in the future, but for
> now, I don't think anyone is seeing the advantages of Apple ditching the
> headphone jack except for Apple and peripheral makers.
>
> I think if the iPhone 7 is received well, it'll be for features that
> have been added and not those that have been removed.
>
> On 09/09/16 08:49, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>> As I have only seen one Android I do not know if the phone Jack is on
>> it, but for some maybe this would be a good replacement to the new
>> Apple? I have been told Talk Back is a pretty good program. I believe
>> too that because Apple has removed the Jack, if well received by the
>> general public, it will also disappear from the Android and Windows
>> phones. I think fortunately or unfortunately we are a subset given drops
>> of accessibility and as we are now using mainstream devices we are at
>> the public's mercy. Doesn't make it right, just a fact, and we want
>> parity with our sighted counterparts, right? Kind of like the ERA. Put
>> women in combat when some said they should never be. Change is hard, and
>> I sure understand the deaf/blind problem (with my hearing deficit(, but
>> there are ways around the problems, inconvenient yes but not worth
>> waging a war over. Tell Apple accessibility or hold onto old phones or
>> yell here if you must, but the earphone jack is gone, and there are
>> much, much more important problems with Voice-over that Apple should be
>> addressing in my opinion.
>>
>> reggie & Lex
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Christopher Chaltain > > wrote:
>>
>> I suspect you're right that the headphone jack is gone for good, but
>> it's definitely true if anyone who misses the headphone jack doesn't let
>> Apple know how much they miss it. There's also no reason  Apple couldn't
>> put the headphone jack back in a future device, although like I said, I
>> would doubt it.
>>
>> I'm also not sure how much of my regret over missing the headphone jack
>> is because I'm blind. I suppose I use my headphones more than my sighted
>> peers because I'll tend to grab them every time I just want to check the
>> lock screen, but I don't think it's just blind users who'll be wishing
>> their new phone had a headphone jack on it that they've taken for
>> granted on all of their electronics for years.
>>
>> It also sounds like you're saying we, especially as blind consumers,
>> shouldn't criticize Apple for a decision they made. I'm curious, are you
>> just talking about Apple or all companies? Are you just talking about
>> blind consumers or all consumers? For how much Apple wants me to pay to
>> get an iPhone 7, I think I'm allowed to criticize a decision Apple made.
>> I for one don't think Apple is perfect, and I'm not just going to assume
>> that they'll never make a mistake and they always know what's best for
>> me. This isn't a knock on Apple, but just those who think we should just
>> be thankful for whatever Apple decides we as consumers and blind
>> consumers should be happy with.
>>
>> On 09/09/16 04:51, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
>>> Folks. The headphone jack is gone for good and I think we should move
>>> on.  Apple made that decision years ago and every blind user in the
>>> world wasn't going to alter that decision.  Charging while listening
>>> isn't a big deal for me but I'm retired and don't use my phone all
>>> that much for calling anyway.  If I need power sooner, I'll buy the
>>> Belcan thingie.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
>>> Sent: 

NFL Mobile App and Live Streams

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

 

Has anyone figured out how to start the live streams for NFL games in the
NFL mobile app?  I have a subscription to their field pass option to get
audio from the games but during the preseason was never able to figure out
how to use the app well enough to get audio to work.

 

Kelly

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RE: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Louise Johnson]

Okay this is one way to know if you have entered it. Pick numbers that have 
letters and you can hear them and that means you have pushed the right key or 
number. Louise and princess Kiara 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: September 10, 2016 5:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

Hi, Afik! You are right that VoiceOver doesn't read out our Apple ID password 
but I was asking about the pass code we enter on the lock screen when we turn 
our iPhone on. VoiceOver booms out the digits but the clicks are inaudible. 
Harry

> On 10 Sep 2016, at 13:27, Afik Sofir  wrote:
> 
> Hi harry,
> 
> For me the situation is the same.
> I think VO doesn’t speak when entering the pass code, because of security 
> pherpesses.
> 
> I hope I'm helping you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:24 PM
> To: Abridged Recipients
> Subject: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen
> 
> I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
> when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
> click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes 
> have registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings 
> but nothing improves. How do others on the list manage? Thanks. Harry
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Re: Article: 11 things everyone is going to love about Apple's iOS 10

[Wayne Merritt]

Very interesting article. I am wondering if the Bedtime part of the
Clock app can be customized. I have set songs to wake me up on
different days. I appreciate the Bedtime feature, but I hope it can
workw with my songs, or that I can turn it off and go back to the old
Alarm screen. Finding your car in a parking lot sounds really cool
too. Though I don't drive, which is good (hahaha), my wife drives, and
being able to find our car would really come in handy.

Wayne

On 9/8/16, Brett  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For me its not about the space, but more about organization of my home
> screens. Currently I have an iCrap folder which contains all the built-in
> apps that I don't use and can't delete, such as Stocks etc. If I could
> delete these icons, it would make my home screens much cleaner and take less
> organisation to get things set-up the way I like.
>
> Cheers,
> Brett.
>
>
> Cheers Brett.
>
>
>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:11 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> The thing about deleting many default applications is not accurate. You're
>> just getting rid of the icon, not the application. So you're not saving
>> very much storage space. I'm surprised that this publication let that
>> error go through this late in the game. I suppose it is nice to be able to
>> get rid of the icons, rather than sticking the apps in a trash folder. But
>> it's not that big a deal. If they really let you get rid of the apps, that
>> would be a bigger deal in my view.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> businessinsider.com
>>> 11 things everyone is going to love about Apple's iOS 10
>>> Paul Szoldra
>>> Apple just announced its new iPhone 7, and coming along with it is a big
>>> update to the iPhone operating system, iOS 10.
>>> iOS 10 will be the biggest OS update Apple has ever made, according to
>>> CEO
>>> Tim Cook.
>>> We got a sneak preview of iOS 10 in July, while it was in beta. If
>>> history
>>> is any guide, the new OS will probably be available for everyone about a
>>> week from now.
>>> We found 11 cool features that just about every Apple fan is going to
>>> love.
>>> Here they are:
>>>
>>> The lock screen has a lot more information that you can instantly
>>> access.
>>> Paul Szoldra/Tech Insider
>>> Instead of the old style where you might see a single notification and
>>> that's about it, iOS 10 gives you a bunch of widgets right on your lock
>>> screen so you can do more stuff quickly.
>>> You can check the weather, see what's next on your calendar, or even
>>> call
>>> one of your favorite contacts right from this screen. Or you can search
>>> for
>>> something you need.
>>> It's also fully customizable, so you can ditch the default apps for news
>>> from The New York Times, photos, or one-click access to your music.
>>> To access it, just swipe to the right on your lock screen.
>>> Everything on your lock screen is also on your unlocked phone as well.
>>> Paul Szoldra/Tech Insider
>>> You can instantly view whatever you're browsing on your computer right
>>> on
>>> your iPhone.
>>> Paul Szoldra/Tech Insider
>>> This is definitely one of the most useful features I found.
>>> Say you're browsing a website on your computer, but you have to head out
>>> the
>>> door. You might copy the link and put it in your note-taking app or text
>>> message. No more.
>>> Now you can instantly pull up what's displayed on Safari and take it to
>>> go.
>>> Interestingly (and this may be a bug), my default browser on my MacBook
>>> is
>>> Chrome, and even though the phone says it's grabbing the website from
>>> Safari, it grabbed my Chrome browser.
>>> To try it, double-tap the home button and click the "Safari" tab on the
>>> bottom.
>>> Magic!
>>> Paul Szoldra/Tech Insider
>>> Your phone will now automatically tell you exactly where you parked your
>>> car.
>>> Paul Szoldra/Tech Insider
>>> Have you ever walked around the parking lot of Dodgers Stadium for about
>>> an
>>> hour searching for the car that you could swear was parked toward that
>>> back
>>> area?
>>> Well, I have. And it's totally not fun.
>>> Fortunately, iOS 10 solves this common problem by remembering where you
>>> parked your car, automatically.
>>> Instead of snapping a picture of your surroundings or jotting down GPS
>>> coordinates in notes, iOS 10 will remember your car's location anytime
>>> you
>>> stop at a place other than your home.
>>> You no longer need a third-party keyboard to send your favorite GIF to
>>> your
>>> friends on iMessage.
>>> Paul Szoldra/Tech Insider
>>> A ton of third-party keyboards give you the ability to send GIFs or
>>> other
>>> artwork and emojis to your friends on iMessage.
>>> You won't need those anymore with iOS 10, since iMessage got a big
>>> reboot
>>> that includes a very fast search feature for photos to send.
>>> So instead of sending emojis or text, you can reply with your favorite
>>> GIF.
>>> And much 

Re: Wondering if anyone else has Upgraded/preordered the iPhone 7 through AT

[Wayne Merritt]

I'm not with AT, but I have been an AT custoemr before, and can
recall many instances on their site where there were accessibility
issues. Good luck in your dialog with them. I hope they fix their
issues.

Wayne

On 9/9/16, Robin Frost  wrote:
> Hi,
> My apologies if this strays from the strictest definitions of this list but
> since it does directly relate to upgrading or preordering devices as well as
> touching on the accessibility of an app perhaps it still fits.
> I’m just curious if any other listers went through the process of upgrading
> a device on their AT accounts either via their My AT app or via their
> site with a screen reader?
> My experience was that while most of the information both in the app and on
> the web page could easily be read there were some standard type elements
> which for some reason couldn’t be executed in the app or on the site using
> VoiceOver or a screen reader.
> Since I’m attempting to dialog with AT in an effort to hopefully improve
> their accessibility specifically in this area I thought it might be helpful
> to gage the experiences of others should there be any.
> It was my experience for instance that in the iOS app the process of moving
> through the steps went great until you reached the point at which you were
> to select your color and storage capacity. Those elements appeared as a link
> for instance for color but when one tried to double tap on it or any other
> gesture you could imagine nothing happened.  At this juncture you were good
> and stuck with no way forward.
> On the website interestingly the elements for color selection and storage
> capacity appeared as check boxes in Internet Explorer which worked fine but
> list boxes in FireFox which couldn’t be executed with any of the 3 windows
> screen readers I had at my disposal. And in Internet Explorer the continue
> links that advanced you through each step and its accompanying page were
> quite tricky to activate and only did so with one screen reader.
> If anyone had experiences that were either similar or differed from that
> which I had I’d love to hear about it so as to most affectively communicate
> with AT in an effort to make this upgrade area better for us all going
> forward.  By and large I feel AT has done a decent job concerning
> accessibility both in their iOS app and on site.  Here’s hoping this glitchy
> area can be ironed out too.
> Robin
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Spotify Equalizer

[kelby carlson]

All,

I'm curious to know how many of you have played around with Spotify's
equalizer, especially with a Bluetooth speaker. I haven't found it to
make much of a difference, but perhaps I'm not using it well.

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Re: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Chris Chaffin]

Have you checked out the volume in the control center?

>From what I can tell, there is 3 different volume controls.
The volume control located in settings / sounds is your ringer volume.
The volume control in the control is your system sounds.
And, the volume control on the rotor is your voice over volume.

Now all 3 of these volume settings are independent of each other, but can be 
adjusted all at the same time with the volume buttons on the side of your 
device.  But please know that by using the volume buttons on the side, one of 
the volumes can get turned way down or even turned down to 0 while the others 
are still working just fine.
So the first thing I would do is to check the volume in your control center to 
see if that got turned down.

Chris


> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
> when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
> click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes 
> have registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings 
> but nothing improves. How do others on the list manage? Thanks. Harry
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Re: Which VDR Voices Do You Like?

[Dani Pagador]

Never mind. *smile* I had a little time tonight to browse Applevis and
pull down podcasts. Have the walk-through by Alex and the extra with
the interview. Great stuff that cleared up a lot. Bought Hugh and
James. Also somehow ended up with Sally, though I don't remember
pressing a "buy" button.

More Later,
Dani

On 9/9/16, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> Hi, Everyone.
> Thanks for your input re VDR reading voices.
>
> How do I go about sampling the voices? I've looked at the user manual
> but can't work out the process.
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
>
>
> On 9/7/16, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Sharon is rather too deep of a female voice for my taste. That being said,
>> I
>> altered Ashley from NeoSpeech's Pitch up a bit to 120 from The default of
>> 100, so I could do the same thing for Sharon, too.
>>
>> I bought Tracy, but I really can't stand her. I thought maybe I could,
>> but
>> after reading with her for a little while, I found that she just bug me
>> too
>> much. She's got the same kinds of problems that most a cappella and are
>> going to voices have for me, an affect that I can only describe as jerky.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 8:48 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a few favourites. Sometimes I like James, and sometimes I like
>>> either Tracy or Sharon. But most of the time I keep finding myself going
>>> back to Alex ever since Winston has allowed us to use him with VDR.
>>> Also,
>>> as Richard said, we'll have more options in iOS 10 so stay tuned for
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:57 AM, Caitlyn Furness 
 wrote:

 Personally, I like James, Emma, and Tracey.  Tracey is my ult fav,
 though.

 Cait

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> I like the James voice. I also like the Kendra voice. Of course, being
> an Ivona voice, Kendra and others from that company will at some point
> become unusable, since they are not going to be supported. But for
> now,
> they still work. Amy is another one from Ivona that many people like.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Everyone.
>> I saw a thread about this maybe a month or two ago, but deleted it
>> because I wasn't using VDR at the time. Which VDR voices do you like,
>> especially for long stints of book reading?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dani
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RE: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Afik Sofir]

Yes, I talked about that too.

Its relates to security, I guess.




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Harry Bell
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

Hi, Afik! You are right that VoiceOver doesn't read out our Apple ID password 
but I was asking about the pass code we enter on the lock screen when we turn 
our iPhone on. VoiceOver booms out the digits but the clicks are inaudible. 
Harry

> On 10 Sep 2016, at 13:27, Afik Sofir  wrote:
> 
> Hi harry,
> 
> For me the situation is the same.
> I think VO doesn’t speak when entering the pass code, because of security 
> pherpesses.
> 
> I hope I'm helping you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:24 PM
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> Subject: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen
> 
> I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
> when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
> click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes 
> have registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings 
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Re: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Harry Bell]

Hi, Afik! You are right that VoiceOver doesn't read out our Apple ID password 
but I was asking about the pass code we enter on the lock screen when we turn 
our iPhone on. VoiceOver booms out the digits but the clicks are inaudible. 
Harry

> On 10 Sep 2016, at 13:27, Afik Sofir  wrote:
> 
> Hi harry,
> 
> For me the situation is the same.
> I think VO doesn’t speak when entering the pass code, because of security 
> pherpesses.
> 
> I hope I'm helping you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Harry Bell
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:24 PM
> To: Abridged Recipients
> Subject: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen
> 
> I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
> when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
> click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes 
> have registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings 
> but nothing improves. How do others on the list manage? Thanks. Harry
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RE: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Afik Sofir]

Hi harry,

For me the situation is the same.
I think VO doesn’t speak when entering the pass code, because of security 
pherpesses.

I hope I'm helping you.







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Harry Bell
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Subject: Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes have 
registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings but 
nothing improves. How do others on the list manage? Thanks. Harry

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Inaudible clicks on lockscreen

[Harry Bell]

I am relying more and more on VoiceOver these days and I really notice that 
when entering my pass code on the lock screen of my iPhone 5s ios 9.5, the 
click sounds are virtually inaudible so I cannot work out if my keystrokes have 
registered properly or not. I have checked the volume level in settings but 
nothing improves. How do others on the list manage? Thanks. Harry

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