Re: And update is available to iOS

[Shaf Patel]

Because Apple take forever to fix bugs--even when we report them in the
beta period. Is that not what the beta testing period is for?

On 9/27/2016 3:49 AM, Monica Jones wrote:
> No, I wasn’t asking about VO fixes. Someone asked why update the
> software. I was answering that question. This update was done not long
> after the software was released to the public. With all the bug reports
> we presented, I didn’t think many if any would be resolved that quick.
> Thank you anyway because I could have been asking this. I appreciate it.
>  
>  
> *From:* Davy Cuppens 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 2:25 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS
>  
> In this update, no voiceover bugs are resolved.
>  
> *From:* Monica Jones 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 7:18 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS
>  
> Updating may have bugs that have been fixed or enhancements to the software.
>  
>  
> *From:* 'Simon w' via VIPhone 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:56 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS
>  
> What is the purpose of updating your phone to the next iOS?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 25, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> 
>> I removed Apple Mail and replaced it with Inbox By Gmail
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 7:10 PM Shaf Patel > > wrote:
>>
>> Yep. That email freezing bug is extremely frustrating.
>> Also, some VoiceOver users have a weird page scrolling bug where
>> VoiceOver will randomly attempt to scroll through different pages on
>> your home screen. This also happened with me when restoring an iOS
>> device.
>> Also, why was the Audio Destination rotor option remove in iOS 10? Now
>> we can't route VoiceOver's speech to an AirPlay device, which was
>> extremely useful for my presentations since I didn't need to use the
>> audio jack.
>>
>> -Shaf
>> On 9/25/2016 2:57 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> > My feels also. Let's hope they do something about email, both the
>> > freezing when sending and braille bugs soon.
>> >
>> > Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Shaf > 
>> > >> wrote:
>> >
>> > *accessibility? Nothing.
>> >
>> > On 9/24/2016 5:35 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>> > > What's new for VoiceOver a11y users?
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:51 PM Richard Turner
>> > > > 
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > > > > >
>> > >
>> > > An update to iOS. the new version is 10.0.2.
>> > > Richard
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> > >
>> > > On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Anthony Vece
>> 
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > > >
>> > >> Hi everyone;
>> > >> And update is available which is supposed to fix a
>> few bucks. I
>> > >> downloaded it with no problem. God bless
>> > >>
>> > >>
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Re: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

[Monica Jones]

Yes, I agree; be sure they are set to fifty percent to be equally balanced.


From: Chip Orange 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

You might look at the new audio settings in General / Accessibility / Audio, 
and make sure the “Speech Channels” for both left and right are selected.  I 
could picture if neither one was selected, or if you had one of those bluetooth 
headsets which gives you only one channel of audio (and that channel wasn’t 
selected), then you’d perhaps not hear anything.

 

There is a known issue with this new capability where some people have to turn 
each channel off and then back on to get things working correctly (I was one 
such person; at first, in my stereo bluetooth headset VoiceOver was only coming 
through on one channel until I did this).

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

 

I also tried

1. Restart the Voiceover 
2. Reboot the phone 
3. Forget the headset from the Bluetooth setting and repair 
4. Reset the network settings and repeat step 3
None of them fixed the issue.
I just sent an email to apple accessibility. I'll report back.


On 9/25/2016 7:06 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

  Please report those issues to accessibil...@apple.com 

   

  From: James Lee 

  Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 2:02 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

   

  Richard, thanks for the reply.

  Mine is also set to automatic for call audio routing.

  For audio setting under Voiceover, I have

  Use sound effects: on

  Audio Ducking: on

  Auto Select Speaker in Call: On

  During call and using siri, everything goes to the Bluetooth headset.

  However, Voiceover output won't go to the Bluetooth when I'm not on a call or 
not using Siri.

  The same bluetooth headset worked perfectly on IOS 9.

  Any other thing I should check?


  JL

  On 9/24/2016 6:46 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

What is your setting under Accessibility, Call audio Routing?

I have mine set to automatic.

The other choices are Bluetooth and speaker.

 

Also, check the audio setting within the VoiceOver settings.  Some 
combination of those may be the issue.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of James Lee
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:51 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

 

Hi,

Since updating to IOS 10, I'm having a problem using a Bluetooth headset 
with Voiceover.
ON IOS9, every time the headset is connected, the Voiceover output always 
went through the headset.
However, on IOS10, most of the time, Voiceover stays on the Phone speaker 
after the Bluetooth is connected. Once in a while it will go to the headset, 
but it's very rare.
Phone call and Siri always go through the headset though. When Siri is done 
speaking, Voiceover will go back to Phone speaker.
Does anyone have suggestion how I can fix this?
I updated to 10.0.2, and it's the same.
Thanks!

JL

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Re: Battery life and Siri

[Monica Jones]

Hi Ron, I use the home button too. Also, hitting the sleep/wake switch will 
work too.



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From: Rob

Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery life and Siri

When I use Siri, I always press the Home button once after Siri says its 
last response.  I think Siri may stay active after responding in order to 
listen for another request.  For me, pressing the Home button returns 
VoiceOver to the normal volume and dismisses Siri.


Rob

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Subject: Battery life and Siri

When I looked at Battery Life usage statistics just now, I noticed that Siri 
was said to be 44 minutes on screen within the last 24 hours, which took up 
an astonishing 33% of the battery used. I wonder what they mean by Siri 44 
minutes on screen. When is Siri on screen except maybe now when I'm 
dictating or when I ask it a questionor does the dictation still count for 
mail usage, since I am using the Mail program. I guess I'm trying to figure 
out what they mean by Siri on screen. I certainly have not use the regular 
Siri functionality for anything approaching 44 minutes. And I doubt, even if 
you take into account all of the dictations, that I have used that for 44 
minutes during the past 24 hours. I'm still having much too rapid battery 
drain, and I'm trying to figure out why.

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Re: And update is available to iOS

[Monica Jones]

No, I wasn’t asking about VO fixes. Someone asked why update the software. I 
was answering that question. This update was done not long after the software 
was released to the public. With all the bug reports we presented, I didn’t 
think many if any would be resolved that quick. Thank you anyway because I 
could have been asking this. I appreciate it.


From: Davy Cuppens 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: And update is available to iOS

In this update, no voiceover bugs are resolved.

From: Monica Jones 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: And update is available to iOS

Updating may have bugs that have been fixed or enhancements to the software.


From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: And update is available to iOS

What is the purpose of updating your phone to the next iOS?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:


  I removed Apple Mail and replaced it with Inbox By Gmail

  On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 7:10 PM Shaf Patel  wrote:

Yep. That email freezing bug is extremely frustrating.
Also, some VoiceOver users have a weird page scrolling bug where
VoiceOver will randomly attempt to scroll through different pages on
your home screen. This also happened with me when restoring an iOS device.
Also, why was the Audio Destination rotor option remove in iOS 10? Now
we can't route VoiceOver's speech to an AirPlay device, which was
extremely useful for my presentations since I didn't need to use the
audio jack.

-Shaf
On 9/25/2016 2:57 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
> My feels also. Let's hope they do something about email, both the
> freezing when sending and braille bugs soon.
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Shaf  > wrote:
>
> *accessibility? Nothing.
>
> On 9/24/2016 5:35 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> > What's new for VoiceOver a11y users?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:51 PM Richard Turner
> > 
>  >> wrote:
> >
> >
> > An update to iOS. the new version is 10.0.2.
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> >
> > On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Anthony Vece  
> > >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone;
> >> And update is available which is supposed to fix a few bucks. I
> >> downloaded it with no problem. God bless
> >>
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RE: otterbox case and iphone 7

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I had it for some time so I don't remember exactly what model it is, but I know 
it is one which has one of the wood veneer finishes.
It is quite easy to get the phone in and out and it covers volume up/down and 
power completely (you press them through the case and you do have to press a 
bit harder than without).
The mute switch is not covered (it has a cut out and you have to use your 
fingernail to get in there and flip it, also the headphone jack and lightning 
ports are not covered.
Anyhow, even the iPhone 6S/6S Plus are extremely dust resistant, it's not 
something I worry about and I even bring my phone into my woodworking shop.
The case I think was around $55 or $60 Canadian, but of course that doesn't 
mean much at times.

Regards,
Sieghard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Casey
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: otterbox case and iphone 7

Hi can you please let us know what evutec case the you have.
And also does it cover all of your ports to they don't get dust in them?
And about how much would you expect for this case that you have?
One last question how easy is it to put the phone in the case?
And take it back out if you need to.


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RE: otterbox case and iphone 7

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly the same ratings I saw here on the Canadian store where it is listed at 
$39.95, finally a price that is actually a deal since currently $34.95 US 
translates to approx. $46 or $47 Canadian.
I might order this to give it a try, if I do I'll post a review. I guess this 
should be covered by Apple's 30-day return policy.
Just checked it on Amazon.ca where it is available for $45.00 Canadian with 
free shipping. Here it has a rating of 3.0 out of 5 with 4 reviews. However, 2 
of them are 1 Star with a bit of an explanation, 2 were 5 Star where one said 
"Best belt clip I ever had" and the other 5 Star was simply "Great". I guess we 
all know that reviews have to be taken with a pound of salt or 3. I'll see if 
Apple offers free shipping and I may give it a try.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: otterbox case and iphone 7

That concept is interesting.
The clip is $34.95 in the US and 29.95 in the UK.
In the US store, the ratings were split evenly between 2 and 3 stars out of 5.
The main criticism seemed to be that people with very physically active jobs 
didn’t think it held the phone very well.

Still might be worth checking out.

I have a shoulder bag custom made by my wife, so I don’t have to clip it on my 
belt or put it in a pocket.  Keeps it handy, though the front is covered so I 
have to take it out to access the screen.

Richard


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 3:45 PM
To: VI iPhone List >
Subject: Re: otterbox case and iphone 7

Hello,

Have you seen the clip from the Apple store?

http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/HJGJ2ZM/B/mophie-universal-belt-clip

I didn’t think mine was a Mophie but that’s what the Apple Store sells.

Gena



On 24 Sep 2016, at 23:32, 
englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

The reason I keep choosing the OtterBox defender over any other case with a 
belt clip, is that I haven't yet been able to find a belt clip case that lets 
me use the phone while it's in the clip. Most belt clip cases require you to 
put the phone in the clip with the screen facing inward, which, while great for 
protecting the screen, makes it hard for a VoiceOver user to use the phone 
while out and about. The only other belt clip case that lets you put the phone 
in the clip with the screen facing out also has one major flaw, in my 
oppinion—and that is that while in the clip, the lightning port is obstructed 
by the clip, making it impossible to charge the phone and have it on your belt 
at the same time.


Thanks,
Ari


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 24, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hi Jed,

You may also want to ask yourself if something like an Otterbox Defender (if 
that is the case you refer to) is really necessary. It's a bulky case which 
offers a lot of protection and I can see where it may be a good idea for people 
who work in construction, on a farm etc., but for the occasional drop and so on 
it is in my opinion overkill. As for any water resistancy this is no longer a 
concern since the iPhone 7 itself is for all intents and purposes waterproof 
against everything other than a prolonged submersion. I personally have just a 
fairly basic case, I chose a case from Evutec which is tough, it has a rand 
that sticks up a bit over the edge but it is not too bulky.

Here is what they say:
We've combined the strength of DuPont™ Kevlar® fibers with the beauty and 
sleekness of a case so thin, it may as well be a skin. Our Technology Evutec
R
Egards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: otterbox case and iphone 7

I don't know about Otterbox specifically but the iPhone 7 rear camera is in a 
slightly different location, it has an additional speaker enabling stereo, and 
it has no headphone jack so I wouldn't think an iPhone 6 or 6S case would work 
on an iPhone 7.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2016, at 2:47 PM, Jed Barton 
> wrote:

Hey guys,

Anyone know if when i get the Iphone 7, fi i have to get a new Otterbox case?  
I've heard conflicting reports.  Anyone know if A T guys has them with the 
tactile screen protector?

Thanks,
Jed

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RE: interesting glitch

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Yep, me too.  I think someone’s a bit confused! Wonder if voice over says 
anything when a real incoming call comes in? 

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

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Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: interesting glitch

 

Has anyone heard voiceover announce, "incoming call" after you have DT a 
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Re: interesting glitch

[Nancy]

I have noticed this also...but I thought I had IOS 9.  How can I be 
certain which IOS I have?



Nancy




On 9/26/2016 7:57 PM, tonyhspe...@gmail.com wrote:

I have noticed this since the iOS 10 update.

Tony

Sent from my mobile device

On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
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Re: upgrading

[Christopher Chaltain]

The 7 is the same size as the 6 and the 6S, which is smaller than the 6 
Plus, 6S Plus and 7 Plus.


On 26/09/16 11:53, Monica Jones wrote:

Rebecca, if I remember correctly, there is an AppleVis podcast that
compares the SE to either other sixes, or maybe it was onle one. You
might check it out. Next time I upgrate it will be to the seven if it is
smaller than the sixPlus. Otherwise, I'll keep what I have till they do
a seven variety that is smaller. It may already be smaller; I haven't
checked yet. In a way, I like my big phone because I can spread out my
fingers good for typing but it's not good for fitting in a purse or
pocket. I knew it wouldn't fit but I liked it for the reasons I stated.
Now it's a hendrance.


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Subject: upgrading

Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there are
between
the two.  Thanks.

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Re: interesting glitch

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I have noticed this since the iOS 10 update.

Tony

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Re: (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -

[Dave]

yes, people did fall for it.

it was in one or two of the news papers, and i also read about it in the 
news apps, like Notifyr.


-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -

Actually, I read that they have in the guardian.



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Subject: Re: (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -




Nobody actually fell for it.

On 9/26/2016 11:02 PM, Donna wrote:
> Those people who fell for this surelyhave quite a few screws loose in 
> their head! Total Idiots!??

>
> Donna
>>
>> I hear a lot of people fell for this, which is surprising, but it's 
>> still one of the cruelest jokes I've ever seen online. Not funny at 
>> all.

>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9/26/2016 4:09 PM, Gary Bowers wrote:
>>> Sarcasm Alert
>>> (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 - YouTube 
>>> link:

>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch"v=5tqH-Un9SFU
>>>
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Sonos App causing significant battery drain, anyone else experiencing this?

[Robin Frost]

Hi Everyone,Subject line pretty much says it all but here are more details.
when this problem first manifested I was using an iPhone 6SPlus running IOS10 
now I’ve moved to an iPhone7Plus and the problem persists even after clean 
reinstalls of the app.
Simply put if the Sonos app is left running in app switcher battery usage and 
standby time increase at the same rate even when the phone is locked. When it 
is taken out of the app switcher and the phone is locked standby increases 
while usage stays static while device is locked as it ought to.
I have an open ticket with this report having been reported to Sonos with 
accompanying diagnostics submitted as per their request. I was just curious if 
anyone else had seen such behavior.
Thanks for all insights shared.
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Re: (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -

[Rajmund]

Actually, I read that they have in the guardian. 



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>
>
> Nobody actually fell for it.
> 
> On 9/26/2016 11:02 PM, Donna wrote:
> > Those people who fell for this surelyhave quite a few screws loose in their 
> > head! Total Idiots!??
> > 
> > Donna
> >>
> >> I hear a lot of people fell for this, which is surprising, but it's still 
> >> one of the cruelest jokes I've ever seen online. Not funny at all.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 9/26/2016 4:09 PM, Gary Bowers wrote:
> >>> Sarcasm Alert
> >>> (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 - YouTube link:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch"v=5tqH-Un9SFU
> >>>
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interesting glitch

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Re: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth speaker's battery lasts.

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Remember that though the woopower has its own volume you can still affect the 
its volume by changing the volume on your phone. 
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  Subject: RE: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue 
tooth speaker's battery lasts.


  Hi Kevin, 

   

  I use the WooPower exactly as you are describing. I also wear hearing aids. 
the volume should be fine if you don't have a hearing loss. 

   

  I don't know if I am doing something wrong. Since updating to IOS 10, the 
volume is much lower on the WooPower. 

   

  Good luck with your new dog. 

   

  Best, 

   

  Lynda 

   

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tooth speaker's battery lasts.

   

  Hi Chip.

   

  I’m hoping to use the GPS software with the Woopower speaker when I’m 
following routes with my new dog while in training.  I figure the school 
wouldn’t be happy with me having something covering my ear.  I could use bone 
conduction headphones, but they cost more than the Woopower.  I can have the 
Woopower on my wrist, and when I hear it say something I can move it close to 
my ear to hear where I am.  This setup may not work as well as I think it will, 
so we’ll see what happens.

   

  Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

  Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Re: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth speaker's battery lasts.

[Robert Doc Wright]

You will be pleasantly surprised Kevin. the speaker is nice and clear and it 
would take lawn mower near by to drown it out. 
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  Hi Chip.

   

  I’m hoping to use the GPS software with the Woopower speaker when I’m 
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Re: (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -

[Shaf Patel]

Nobody actually fell for it.

On 9/26/2016 11:02 PM, Donna wrote:
> Those people who fell for this surelyhave quite a few screws loose in their 
> head! Total Idiots!
> 
> Donna
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>>
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RE: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth speaker's battery lasts.

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Chip, 

 

I personally decided to try the WooPower speaker due to my hearing loss. My 
hearing aids are bluetooth compatable.Unfortunately, I could be crossing a 
street when new information is being spoken. When info is being updated, a 
significant amount of environmental sound is blocked out. The WooPower has 
enough volume boost that I can hear it much better than my phone when walking. 
Wearing the speaker on my wrist also means one less thing to coordinate--guide 
dog, support cane, and treat pouch. 

 

Have a nice day, 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue 
tooth speaker's battery lasts.

 

Hi Kevin,

 

I don’t think I quite understand the usefulness of this speaker; why did you 
get it for “gps use”?  How does that help, and why would you prefer it to a 
bluetooth headset?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth 
speaker's battery lasts.

 

Hi.

 

If you look at the guide for the Woopower blue tooth wrist speaker, it says the 
battery life of the speaker is 48 hours of standby time.  I wondered how long 
this would be with the battery being used for constant sound, so I put it 
through its paces.  I started listening to an FM station at about 11:15 in the 
morning.  I listened to the pitiful Bungles game against the Broncos, and that 
ended at about 4:15 in the afternoon.  I then switched to listening to the Reds 
game on blue tooth, and that lasted about another half hour.  I then switched 
to the Padres game, and the battery finally gave up the ghost at about 5:15 in 
the afternoon.  This means that the battery gives about 6 hours of use.  I 
don’t know if it would be much shorter with blue tooth, since I used it in 
radio mode most of the time.  In any case, six hours of use isn’t bad, and, in 
my case, this should give me a nice day’s worth of use.  Besides, I got the 
speaker for GPS use, so it won’t be used as much.

 

Just for your information.

 

Have a blessed day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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RE: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth speaker's battery lasts.

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Kevin, 

 

I use the WooPower exactly as you are describing. I also wear hearing aids. the 
volume should be fine if you don't have a hearing loss. 

 

I don't know if I am doing something wrong. Since updating to IOS 10, the 
volume is much lower on the WooPower. 

 

Good luck with your new dog. 

 

Best, 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 5:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue 
tooth speaker's battery lasts.

 

Hi Chip.

 

I’m hoping to use the GPS software with the Woopower speaker when I’m following 
routes with my new dog while in training.  I figure the school wouldn’t be 
happy with me having something covering my ear.  I could use bone conduction 
headphones, but they cost more than the Woopower.  I can have the Woopower on 
my wrist, and when I hear it say something I can move it close to my ear to 
hear where I am.  This setup may not work as well as I think it will, so we’ll 
see what happens.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Re: (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -

[Donna]

Those people who fell for this surelyhave quite a few screws loose in their 
head! Total Idiots!

Donna
> 
> I hear a lot of people fell for this, which is surprising, but it's still one 
> of the cruelest jokes I've ever seen online. Not funny at all.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/26/2016 4:09 PM, Gary Bowers wrote:
>> Sarcasm Alert
>> (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 - YouTube link:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqH-Un9SFU
>> 
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Re: Moving Apps in IOS 10 Question

[Tom Lange]

Great stuff! That one's a keeper. Much appreciated.


Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A couple of us have written steps, but here goes another try.
> 1. Touch, do not open an app or folder.
> 2. flick down or up with one finger and you should hear "arrange apps."
> 3. Double tap with one finger.
> 4. Flick down or up until you hear "move ..." it will say the app name or 
> folder name, whatever you are wanting to move.
> 5. Double tap with one finger, and you will hear "pick a location for said 
> app or folder."
> 6. Now, go to wherever you are wanting to move the app or folder. If it is an 
> app you are moving, and you want it in a folder, do not open the destination 
> folder, just touch it.
> 7. Flick up down and you will hear, cancel moving x app, flick down again, 
> and you will hear either add x app to folder, or create a folder with 
> whatever app you are on, flick down again and you will here "put app before x 
> app, once more and you will here "put app after x app.?
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
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>> Hey guys,
>> How exactly do you move apps.  can you move them from page to page? Anyone 
>> have an exact procedure how to do it?
>> 
>>> On 9/24/2016 9:51 AM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
>>> There's a new way?
>>> Did I miss an email? I didn't see anything below this email or is this a new
>>> thread?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Arnold Schmidt
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Moving Apps in IOS 10 Question
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is this wonderful, new way to move apps just for VoiceOver users, or can
>>> sighted users use it, too? If so, briefly, how do they do it? I tell you, as
>>> a VoiceOver user, it is worth upgrading just to get this feature. I could
>>> move them the old way, but never quite ended up with everything where I
>>> really wished it were.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>> 
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RE: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth speaker's battery lasts.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi Chip.

I’m hoping to use the GPS software with the Woopower speaker when I’m following 
routes with my new dog while in training.  I figure the school wouldn’t be 
happy with me having something covering my ear.  I could use bone conduction 
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Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
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Re: (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -

[Rajmund]

Hi, this was actually in my local radio's news. And, as for the video, I prefer 
the 4 minute one, don't have the link on hand right now.



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Re: Siri Instead of Pausing

[Wayne Merritt]

I saw this initially too. I closed and reopened the app with the same
result. I finally restarted my phone and that seemed to fix the random
issues like this.

Wayne

On 9/26/16, Monica Jones  wrote:
> Yes because the 2-finger doubletap is supposed to stop, not pause. I've run
>
> into that same problem.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Rash
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> Try a two finger single tap to pause.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 3:04 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Siri Instead of Pausing
>
> All,
>
> After updating to iOS 10, when I am in an application like Spotify or
> VoiceDream and do a two finger double tap to pause, it instead brings
> up the dictation function of siri, even though there is no field to
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Re: (prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -

[Tony Hernandez]

I hear a lot of people fell for this, which is surprising, but it's 
still one of the cruelest jokes I've ever seen online. Not funny at all.




On 9/26/2016 4:09 PM, Gary Bowers wrote:

Sarcasm Alert
(prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 - YouTube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqH-Un9SFU




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Re: Facebook Accessability

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello, once you have like the page, information from that page will pop up on 
your new speed just as well as your friends will as well. I hope I have 
answered a question or two that you may have.
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> On Sep 26, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Lee Jones  wrote:
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> Dear List, this is probably a stupid question, so forgive me.  I recently 
> downloaded the facebook app onto my phone and created an account. I want to 
> follow public profiles such as my football team, and have the material 
> populate my news feed, but I cannot find a follow button anywhere in the app. 
> I do a search and material comes up, I can like comment and share but not 
> follow. If the stock facebook is inaccessible, are there any alternative 
> clients people would recommend?
> 
> Many Thanks, Lee 
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Re: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth speaker's battery lasts.

[Richard Turner]

I can't speak for Kevin, but it doesn't interfere with your ears and to me, is 
far more comfortable than the AfterShokz bone conduction headphones.
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Sep 26, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Chip Orange 
> wrote:

Hi Kevin,

I don't think I quite understand the usefulness of this speaker; why did you 
get it for "gps use"?  How does that help, and why would you prefer it to a 
bluetooth headset?

Thanks,

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth 
speaker's battery lasts.

Hi.

If you look at the guide for the Woopower blue tooth wrist speaker, it says the 
battery life of the speaker is 48 hours of standby time.  I wondered how long 
this would be with the battery being used for constant sound, so I put it 
through its paces.  I started listening to an FM station at about 11:15 in the 
morning.  I listened to the pitiful Bungles game against the Broncos, and that 
ended at about 4:15 in the afternoon.  I then switched to listening to the Reds 
game on blue tooth, and that lasted about another half hour.  I then switched 
to the Padres game, and the battery finally gave up the ghost at about 5:15 in 
the afternoon.  This means that the battery gives about 6 hours of use.  I 
don't know if it would be much shorter with blue tooth, since I used it in 
radio mode most of the time.  In any case, six hours of use isn't bad, and, in 
my case, this should give me a nice day's worth of use.  Besides, I got the 
speaker for GPS use, so it won't be used as much.

Just for your information.

Have a blessed day, and don't work too hard.
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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(prank) Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 -

[Gary Bowers]

Sarcasm Alert
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bus riding app for those in Boston

[Richard Turner]

Traveling by bus just got easier for people who are blind.
[Perkins Logo.]


IN FOCUS
SEPTEMBER 2016: A monthly recap of the biggest news and stories
View as webpage




[A visually impaired person walking near a bus stop with her cane and holding 
an iPhone.]




Perkins launches BlindWays 
app


Traveling by bus just got a lot easier for people who are blind. On Sept. 20, 
Perkins Solutions released an app called 
BlindWays, which 
helps people who are visually impaired locate bus stops in the Boston area. The 
free iPhone app provides crowdsourced clues that make it possible for people 
who are blind to navigate to the precise locations of bus stops — allowing them 
to travel more independently.






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RE: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth speaker's battery lasts.

[Chip Orange]

Hi Kevin,

 

I don’t think I quite understand the usefulness of this speaker; why did you 
get it for “gps use”?  How does that help, and why would you prefer it to a 
bluetooth headset?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What I've discovered so far regarding how long the Woopower blue tooth 
speaker's battery lasts.

 

Hi.

 

If you look at the guide for the Woopower blue tooth wrist speaker, it says the 
battery life of the speaker is 48 hours of standby time.  I wondered how long 
this would be with the battery being used for constant sound, so I put it 
through its paces.  I started listening to an FM station at about 11:15 in the 
morning.  I listened to the pitiful Bungles game against the Broncos, and that 
ended at about 4:15 in the afternoon.  I then switched to listening to the Reds 
game on blue tooth, and that lasted about another half hour.  I then switched 
to the Padres game, and the battery finally gave up the ghost at about 5:15 in 
the afternoon.  This means that the battery gives about 6 hours of use.  I 
don’t know if it would be much shorter with blue tooth, since I used it in 
radio mode most of the time.  In any case, six hours of use isn’t bad, and, in 
my case, this should give me a nice day’s worth of use.  Besides, I got the 
speaker for GPS use, so it won’t be used as much.

 

Just for your information.

 

Have a blessed day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Re: bug in latest swarm update

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I have IOS 10.2 on an iPhone 7 and the latest Swarm update. The tabs
still remain unlabeled.

Sharonda

On 9/26/16, Monica Jones  wrote:
> I haven’t seen an update since I updated it last time and the tabs were
> gone. I’ll check to see if there’s an update today.
>
> From: Dionesque
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 4:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bug in latest swarm update
>
> I had this issue while using the latest Swarm wersion on an older iOS
> version. As soon as I updated the iOS version, the tabs became labelled
> again.
> There is an another issue with this app though, I tried to add a new POI
> yesterday and it wasn't possible to finish the process unless the pin on the
> graphic map has been placed in a correct possition. This is not duable
> blind, you need a sighted help to place the pin on the map and only than you
> can submit a new entry to te database.
> Greetings,
>
> Barbara
>
> Od: "Davy Cuppens" 
> Do: viphone@googlegroups.com;
> Wysłane: 11:37 Sobota 2016-09-24
> Temat: bug in latest swarm update
>
>
>   Hi folks
>
>   For those using the swarm app with which you can checkin to several
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>   Regards
>   Davy
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RE: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

[Chip Orange]

You might look at the new audio settings in General / Accessibility / Audio, 
and make sure the “Speech Channels” for both left and right are selected.  I 
could picture if neither one was selected, or if you had one of those bluetooth 
headsets which gives you only one channel of audio (and that channel wasn’t 
selected), then you’d perhaps not hear anything.

 

There is a known issue with this new capability where some people have to turn 
each channel off and then back on to get things working correctly (I was one 
such person; at first, in my stereo bluetooth headset VoiceOver was only coming 
through on one channel until I did this).

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

 

I also tried

1. Restart the Voiceover 
2. Reboot the phone 
3. Forget the headset from the Bluetooth setting and repair 
4. Reset the network settings and repeat step 3
None of them fixed the issue.
I just sent an email to apple accessibility. I'll report back.


On 9/25/2016 7:06 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Please report those issues to accessibil...@apple.com 

 

From: James Lee   

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 2:02 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

 

Richard, thanks for the reply.

Mine is also set to automatic for call audio routing.

For audio setting under Voiceover, I have

Use sound effects: on

Audio Ducking: on

Auto Select Speaker in Call: On

During call and using siri, everything goes to the Bluetooth headset.

However, Voiceover output won't go to the Bluetooth when I'm not on a call or 
not using Siri.

The same bluetooth headset worked perfectly on IOS 9.

Any other thing I should check?


JL

On 9/24/2016 6:46 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

What is your setting under Accessibility, Call audio Routing?

I have mine set to automatic.

The other choices are Bluetooth and speaker.

 

Also, check the audio setting within the VoiceOver settings.  Some combination 
of those may be the issue.

 

Richard

 

 

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James Lee
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:51 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

 

Hi,

Since updating to IOS 10, I'm having a problem using a Bluetooth headset with 
Voiceover.
ON IOS9, every time the headset is connected, the Voiceover output always went 
through the headset.
However, on IOS10, most of the time, Voiceover stays on the Phone speaker after 
the Bluetooth is connected. Once in a while it will go to the headset, but it's 
very rare.
Phone call and Siri always go through the headset though. When Siri is done 
speaking, Voiceover will go back to Phone speaker.
Does anyone have suggestion how I can fix this?
I updated to 10.0.2, and it's the same.
Thanks!

JL

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Facebook Accessability

[Lee Jones]

Dear List, this is probably a stupid question, so forgive me.  I recently 
downloaded the facebook app onto my phone and created an account. I want to 
follow public profiles such as my football team, and have the material populate 
my news feed, but I cannot find a follow button anywhere in the app. I do a 
search and material comes up, I can like comment and share but not follow. If 
the stock facebook is inaccessible, are there any alternative clients people 
would recommend?

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RE: Battery life and Siri

[Rob]

When I use Siri, I always press the Home button once after Siri says its last 
response.  I think Siri may stay active after responding in order to listen for 
another request.  For me, pressing the Home button returns VoiceOver to the 
normal volume and dismisses Siri.

Rob

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Mary Otten
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To: mac4thebl...@freelists.org; VIPhone 'ChalmersAS' via
Subject: Battery life and Siri

When I looked at Battery Life usage statistics just now, I noticed that Siri 
was said to be 44 minutes on screen within the last 24 hours, which took up an 
astonishing 33% of the battery used. I wonder what they mean by Siri 44 minutes 
on screen. When is Siri on screen except maybe now when I'm dictating or when I 
ask it a questionor does the dictation still count for mail usage, since I am 
using the Mail program. I guess I'm trying to figure out what they mean by Siri 
on screen. I certainly have not use the regular Siri functionality for anything 
approaching 44 minutes. And I doubt, even if you take into account all of the 
dictations, that I have used that for 44 minutes during the past 24 hours. I'm 
still having much too rapid battery drain, and I'm trying to figure out why.
Mary

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Re: And update is available to iOS

[Davy Cuppens]

In this update, no voiceover bugs are resolved.

From: Monica Jones 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: And update is available to iOS

Updating may have bugs that have been fixed or enhancements to the software.


From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: And update is available to iOS

What is the purpose of updating your phone to the next iOS?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:


  I removed Apple Mail and replaced it with Inbox By Gmail

  On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 7:10 PM Shaf Patel  wrote:

Yep. That email freezing bug is extremely frustrating.
Also, some VoiceOver users have a weird page scrolling bug where
VoiceOver will randomly attempt to scroll through different pages on
your home screen. This also happened with me when restoring an iOS device.
Also, why was the Audio Destination rotor option remove in iOS 10? Now
we can't route VoiceOver's speech to an AirPlay device, which was
extremely useful for my presentations since I didn't need to use the
audio jack.

-Shaf
On 9/25/2016 2:57 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
> My feels also. Let's hope they do something about email, both the
> freezing when sending and braille bugs soon.
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Shaf  > wrote:
>
> *accessibility? Nothing.
>
> On 9/24/2016 5:35 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> > What's new for VoiceOver a11y users?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:51 PM Richard Turner
> > 
>  >> wrote:
> >
> >
> > An update to iOS. the new version is 10.0.2.
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> >
> > On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Anthony Vece  
> > >> wrote:
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> >> Hi everyone;
> >> And update is available which is supposed to fix a few bucks. I
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RE: upgrading

[Rose Combs]

I tried to restore the backup of the 6 on the SE, still not what I wanted. 


Rose Combs
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rajmund
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: upgrading

Hi, thought of restoring the backup of the 6, on the SE, but the 
iCloud backup?

Sent from a BrailleNote

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On Behalf Of becky knaub
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 3:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upgrading



Hi Rebecca,

It's Becky.  I hope you and Zeb are doing well.  I have the 
iPhone 7 and I went from a 5S to the seventh.  The seven isn't as 
big as the six or 6S.  In fact it's just a hair bigger than my 
5S.  It's just a touch wider and attach taller.  Still perfect 
for pocket-size.  Honestly the real estate is the same as working 
with the iPhone 5 or 5S.  I like it because it's faster and the 
home button is different but in a good way.  The battery seems to 
keep longer..  And compare to my 16 gig 5S my 128 gig seven can 
store much more.  Most features seem to work just the way they 
worked on the older phones.  The seven does not have a headphone 
jack but it does have an adapter that hooks into the charging 
port.  I myself prefer to use bone conduction headphones 
(aftershokz) I paired my Focus 40 blue with the seven and it 
worked great.  There's a new way to edit apps and in that feature 
you can also share apps.  iCloud back up and restore worked 
wonderfully for setting up my seven.  I really didn't have to do 
much other did enable voiceover type in my Apple ID and password 
and I was done.  I'm not sure what else you want to know but feel 
free to email me if you have any other questions.

Becky and Hazel
Sent from my iPhone


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Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you 
compare
the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the 
smaller
screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there 
are between
the two.  Thanks.

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Re: using siri to locate and call places

[Monica Jones]

I think sometimes Siri has a brain blowout. I've had this happen in this 
upgrade and in nine. Then I'll try again later and it works.



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From: Jim Ruby

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: using siri to locate and call places

I am having a problem with siri under ios 10

Here is what I am doing and the result

Say Siri find office max
Siri responds with I found office max on county road 1 and asked do you want 
that one?

At the beep to talk I says yes
Siri responds I  can get directions or call
At the beep to talk I say "call"

Then siri comes back with who do you want to call.

This happens with anything I try using the scenario above.

This used to work great under ios 9.
Any one have a solution or experiencing the same problem?

Thanks

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Re: Siri Instead of Pausing

[Monica Jones]

Yes because the 2-finger doubletap is supposed to stop, not pause. I've run 
into that same problem.



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Rash

Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri Instead of Pausing

Try a two finger single tap to pause.

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Of kelby carlson

Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 3:04 PM
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Subject: Siri Instead of Pausing

All,

After updating to iOS 10, when I am in an application like Spotify or
VoiceDream and do a two finger double tap to pause, it instead brings
up the dictation function of siri, even though there is no field to
deit. I can only pause and unpause this way on the lock screen. Anyone
know what the deal is?

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Re: A Happy Follow-up to an Audio Described Movie Question Originally Posted back in February, 2016

[Monica Jones]

Mark, this is great. I don't do movies in ITunes often but it's nice to know 
they are doing more with AD.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Happy Follow-up to an Audio Described Movie Question Originally 
Posted back in February, 2016


Hello All,

I am posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing lists.

Back in February of 2016, I posted a question with the subject line of "A
Question About Audio Descriptive Movies in iTunes".  I will paste in the
original message, below my signature.

In that message, I wanted to know if movie rentals contain the audio
description track just as the purchased movies do.

More specifically, however, I was commenting on the fact that one of my
favorite movies, "Edge of Tomorrow", starring Tom Cruz, did not appear to
have the audio description track, available in theaters, included in its
iTunes rental download package.  A short time later, a friend of mine
actually purchased the movie and confirmed that it, also, did not contain
the audio description track.  In all fairness, however, nowhere in the movie
description did iTunes claim that the movie had an audio description track.


Okay, a short time after confirming that "Edge of Tomorrow" did not include
audio description, I sent an email via the iTunes movie portal, requesting
that the track be added to this particular title.  I made it very clear that
such a track existed as I personally enjoyed it in the theater.  If memory
serves, I received some kind of reply from Apple, back in February stating
that they had received my request and would look into it.  To be honest, I
did not take them very seriously as their reply felt very much like a boiler
plate, (smile).

Well, last night, as I was cleaning up my Wish List, on my 4th generation
Apple TV, I decided to take one more look at the information for "Edge of
Tomorrow", before removing it from my list, permanently.

I was stunned and delighted to see that, as part of the description, the
letters A D had been added.  I was not certain that A D meant audio
description available, as many newer films are more explicit in this area
but, taking a chance, I decided to rent the movie.

You guessed it, the audio description track was included in the download.
What a wonderful thing.


From now on, if I discover that a movie, for which I am certain contains an

audio described track, as published in a commercial theater, is not included
in an iTunes movie offering, I will request that the track be added to the
download.  You may want to do the same.

By the way, I enjoyed watching the movie, with the audio description track,
even more at home than I did in the theater as I (1) could see the video
much more clearly and (2) could control the playback.  Be that as it may,
the social aspect of enjoying a movie with friends, in a theater, does add
enormous value to the movie-watching experience that cannot be dismissed.

Mark

Original Post, Dated February 24, 2016:

Subject:  A Question About Audio Descriptive Movies in iTunes

Hello All,

I am posting this question to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

My primary question:
Is the audio description track included when renting a movie from iTunes? or
must one purchase the movie in order to receive the audio description track.

My secondary question:
If a movie debuted with an audio description track in the theater, does it
follow that the movie will include that track in the iTunes store version of
the movie?

Here's my situation:
Last summer I saw the movie entitled "Edge of Tomorrow", in the theater,
complete with audio description.  To me, it was a fabulous movie.  Just so
you know, the film is now marketed and sold under the title, "Live die
Repeat".

A couple of days ago, a sighted friend of mine rented Live die Repeat, from
the iTunes Store.  She watched it on her iPad.  Even though many titles, in
the iTunes Store, are not listed as having audio description, I was hoping
that, like so many others, given that the film was released with audio
description in the theater, the track would be included on the download.

According to her, she could not hear any audio description despite having
the settings on her iPad configured correctly.

I should probably add that, to my dismay, I discovered that the DVD copy of
this title, I purchased when it was first made available, did not include
the audio description track, either.

I would so much like to enjoy this movie again but I fear, that, unless I
can locate a version that includes the audio description track, I will not
be able to relive the experience of "Edge of Tomorrow".

All replies most welcomed.

Mark

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Re: bug in latest swarm update

[Monica Jones]

I haven’t seen an update since I updated it last time and the tabs were gone. 
I’ll check to see if there’s an update today.

From: Dionesque 
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 4:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: bug in latest swarm update

I had this issue while using the latest Swarm wersion on an older iOS version. 
As soon as I updated the iOS version, the tabs became labelled again. 
There is an another issue with this app though, I tried to add a new POI 
yesterday and it wasn't possible to finish the process unless the pin on the 
graphic map has been placed in a correct possition. This is not duable blind, 
you need a sighted help to place the pin on the map and only than you can 
submit a new entry to te database. 
Greetings, 

Barbara 

Od: "Davy Cuppens" 
Do: viphone@googlegroups.com; 
Wysłane: 11:37 Sobota 2016-09-24
Temat: bug in latest swarm update


  Hi folks 

  For those using the swarm app with which you can checkin to several places, 
the taps are nolonger labeled.
  Regards
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Re: bug in latest swarm update

[Monica Jones]

They are not labeled and I’ve also noticed that they’ve changed the way you add 
a new place. Yesterday when I was trying to add a private residence, it wanted 
me to pick a secondary category. Then it took me right back to the beginning. 
I’m gonna ask them about this.


From: Davy Cuppens 
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 4:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: bug in latest swarm update

Hi folks 

For those using the swarm app with which you can checkin to several places, the 
taps are nolonger labeled.
Regards
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Re: And update is available to iOS

[Monica Jones]

Updating may have bugs that have been fixed or enhancements to the software.


From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: And update is available to iOS

What is the purpose of updating your phone to the next iOS?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:


  I removed Apple Mail and replaced it with Inbox By Gmail

  On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 7:10 PM Shaf Patel  wrote:

Yep. That email freezing bug is extremely frustrating.
Also, some VoiceOver users have a weird page scrolling bug where
VoiceOver will randomly attempt to scroll through different pages on
your home screen. This also happened with me when restoring an iOS device.
Also, why was the Audio Destination rotor option remove in iOS 10? Now
we can't route VoiceOver's speech to an AirPlay device, which was
extremely useful for my presentations since I didn't need to use the
audio jack.

-Shaf
On 9/25/2016 2:57 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
> My feels also. Let's hope they do something about email, both the
> freezing when sending and braille bugs soon.
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Shaf  > wrote:
>
> *accessibility? Nothing.
>
> On 9/24/2016 5:35 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> > What's new for VoiceOver a11y users?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:51 PM Richard Turner
> > 
>  >> wrote:
> >
> >
> > An update to iOS. the new version is 10.0.2.
> > Richard
> >
> >
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Re: Voice Dream Reader Rewind Question

[Monica Jones]

If you become stuck in VDR, their help file is very well done. If I don’t use 
the app for a while, I refer to it lots.


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader Rewind Question


also, you can rewind and fast forward with the earphones.
Triple click the play button on your earphones to rewind and double click it to 
fast forward. It will move according to your navigation settings in VDR.
I just tested it to make sure.
HTH,
Richard


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(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Sep 25, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:



  Yes, double tap and hold on the play button will open the sleep timer. I 
believe it is now also available in a menu too.
  I prefer the double tap and hold approach myself for the sleep timer.
  Richard



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  On Sep 25, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Many thanks, Anna. I didn't tarry on the play button long enough to get the 
hint. I tried double tapping and holding it but that didn't help although it 
might have opened the sleep timer.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader Rewind Question

 

Hi Alan,

 

flick up on the Play button to rewind, or down to fast forward. The info 
about this is in the voice hints for VDR.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

  On Sep 25, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

   

  Hello List,

   

  I'm so used to listening to books in Voice Dream using the remote button 
on my earpods that I can't figure out how to rewind or fast forward when 
listening through my iPhone 6 speakers. There don't appear to be any separate 
buttons for doing this and I couldn't figure out where these controls are 
hidden.

   

  Thanks in advance for enlightening me.

   

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Re: Help! Forgot Encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup Password

[Monica Jones]

No, I was trying to make another ITunes backup and couldn't get in.


-Original Message- 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help! Forgot Encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup Password

Monica,

Were you setting up a new phone when this happened to you?

Thanks,
Charles

On 9/26/16, Monica Jones  wrote:
Nope, Charles, you are stuck with making a new encrypted password. The 
same

thing happened to me; it’s what I had to do. I gave it a good, secure
password that I figured I would remember but it taught me not to count on 
my

memory for that.
Oh, it wouldn’t let me do another encrypted one; it would only let me 
create

a regular backup. It could be I just didn’t know how.


From: Charles
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Help! Forgot Encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup Password

Hello everyone, I am looking for any assistance you all can provide for
recovering an encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup password.  I read what Apple
says and they say it can’t be done. However, I am hoping someone on the 
list

can help.



Thank you in advance.



Charles

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Re: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

[Monica Jones]

I think there was a bug report on this at AppleVis. There was an update the 
other day but I don't know if it helped with this or not. Check the IOS10 
bugs on AppleVis. I'm sure one had something to do with bluetooth output.



-Original Message- 
From: Shai

Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 11:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

Hello James,
I would check with the manufacturer's website to see if there may be
an update that might remedy this issue. I would also try to unpair the
headset and connect it again to see if the issue might be resolved.
You could also try to search this headset model and see if others
might be having issues with it and iOS for something such as listening
to music for example. In my mind, this would be equivalent to
VoiceOver going through the headset.
I hope this helps


On 9/24/16, James Lee  wrote:

Hi,

Since updating to IOS 10, I'm having a problem using a Bluetooth headset
with Voiceover.
ON IOS9, every time the headset is connected, the Voiceover output always
went through the headset.
However, on IOS10, most of the time, Voiceover stays on the Phone speaker
after the Bluetooth is connected. Once in a while it will go to the
headset, but it's very rare.
Phone call and Siri always go through the headset though. When Siri is 
done


speaking, Voiceover will go back to Phone speaker.
Does anyone have suggestion how I can fix this?
I updated to 10.0.2, and it's the same.
Thanks!

JL

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Re: Best Practice to not Hijack Threads was Re: best practices for managing contacts across iphone and laptops

[Monica Jones]

Alan, thank you for explaining this. Sometimes I’ve been guilty of deleting the 
original subject but leaving in the body. This makes sense to me; I just 
haven’t thought of it before.
ss

From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:43 PM
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Subject: Best Practice to not Hijack Threads was Re: best practices for 
managing contacts across iphone and laptops

Robin,

I can't answer your question but I'd kindly ask you to please not reply to an 
existing message and then delete the subject and message body as if you were 
starting a new thread. This is called thread hijacking and though it might 
appear to you as if you've started a new post, there are hidden links to the 
previous thread that ties your new subject post to it. However, those of us who 
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the thread will be about the subject you hijacked. 

I noticed that you hijacked two different threads and wanted to explain this so 
you could avoid it in the future. 

To start a new thread, you need to create a brand new message as opposed to 
replying to an existing one and deleting its content. 

Thanks. 

Alan Lemly 

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  Curious for best practices with managing and synching contacts across my 
iPhone and windows based computers where I use Outlook to read mail and manage 
email contacts. Until now, I would occasionally add phone numbers to my phone 
directly.  After I started including my work Outlook account on my phone, my 
work contact would be visible, so I found it easier to add and edit contacts on 
my work laptop in Outlook knowing they would show up in my phone.  This is 
great until the day that I no longer work at my company -- which I am not 
currently planning.  Before my home laptop died this summer, I had personal 
contacts in Outlook on my home computer, but only used that for capturing 
emails.  When my laptop died, I had to have my iPhone pull in my Hotmail 
contacts so that I could reach people.  Now I see that I have cases where I had 
entered a phone number in my phone, but there is a second entry in Contacts 
from where an email address pulls in from Hotmail.  If I combine those two in 
my phone, does that mean that I would no longer have access to the email 
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Re: Help! Forgot Encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup Password

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Monica,

Were you setting up a new phone when this happened to you?

Thanks,
Charles

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> Nope, Charles, you are stuck with making a new encrypted password. The same
> thing happened to me; it’s what I had to do. I gave it a good, secure
> password that I figured I would remember but it taught me not to count on my
> memory for that.
> Oh, it wouldn’t let me do another encrypted one; it would only let me create
> a regular backup. It could be I just didn’t know how.
>
>
> From: Charles
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 8:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Help! Forgot Encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup Password
>
> Hello everyone, I am looking for any assistance you all can provide for
> recovering an encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup password.  I read what Apple
> says and they say it can’t be done. However, I am hoping someone on the list
> can help.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
>
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Re: How on Earth can I get sticker packs for the Messages app?

[Monica Jones]

I don’t even get to any messaging apps when I try that.


From: englishride...@gmail.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:34 PM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: How on Earth can I get sticker packs for the Messages app?

As the subject says, how do I do this? I'm totally stumped by the Messages app 
store" How the heck do I use it? It's confusing, and I think some stuff in 
there isn't labeled. Seems like Apple dropped the ball on this one a bit. I've 
heard that the pack for the new Mario game is accessible, as are the packs from 
Icon Factory, the developers of Twitterrific. I'd really like to try stickers, 
but I just can't figure things out. If anyone could give me instructions, 
that'd be awesome!


Thanks,
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Re: _Google_Allo_—_smart_messaging_|_AppleVis

[Monica Jones]

From what I understand, it's a texting app with a lot of bells and whistles. 

Kevin sent a message about it but I don't have it anomore.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: _Google_Allo_—_smart_messaging_|_AppleVis

Hi, Think I've missed parts of this, and apologies for that. What's this app 
about, please?




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Subject: Re:_Google_Allo_–_smart_messaging_|_AppleVis




I apologize; I forgot to write the main part of my message. I stated that 
I had to creat a Google account. What I wanted to say afterward was that 
while I could only go so far without the Google account, this app looks 
very accessible.



From: Kevin Chao
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:49 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Google Allo - smart messaging | AppleVis

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/social-networking/google-allo-smart-messaging
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Re: Help! Forgot Encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup Password

[Monica Jones]

Nope, Charles, you are stuck with making a new encrypted password. The same 
thing happened to me; it’s what I had to do. I gave it a good, secure password 
that I figured I would remember but it taught me not to count on my memory for 
that.
Oh, it wouldn’t let me do another encrypted one; it would only let me create a 
regular backup. It could be I just didn’t know how.


From: Charles 
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Subject: Help! Forgot Encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup Password

Hello everyone, I am looking for any assistance you all can provide for 
recovering an encrypted iTunes iPhone Backup password.  I read what Apple says 
and they say it can’t be done. However, I am hoping someone on the list can 
help.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Charles

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Re: _Google_Allo_—_smart_messaging_|_AppleVis

[Rajmund]

Hi, Think I've missed parts of this, and apologies for that. What's this app 
about, please?



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From: Monica Jones  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 26, 2016 5:45 pm
Subject: Re:_Google_Allo_–_smart_messaging_|_AppleVis

>
>
> I apologize; I forgot to write the main part of my message. I stated that I 
> had to creat a Google account. What I wanted to say afterward was that while 
> I could only go so far without the Google account, this app looks very 
> accessible.
>  
>  
> From: Kevin Chao 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:49 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Google Allo - smart messaging | AppleVis
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> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/social-networking/google-allo-smart-messaging
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Re: upgrading

[Monica Jones]

Rebecca, if I remember correctly, there is an AppleVis podcast that compares 
the SE to either other sixes, or maybe it was onle one. You might check it 
out. Next time I upgrate it will be to the seven if it is smaller than the 
sixPlus. Otherwise, I'll keep what I have till they do a seven variety that 
is smaller. It may already be smaller; I haven't checked yet. In a way, I 
like my big phone because I can spread out my fingers good for typing but 
it's not good for fitting in a purse or pocket. I knew it wouldn't fit but I 
liked it for the reasons I stated. Now it's a hendrance.



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Subject: upgrading

Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there are between
the two.  Thanks.

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Re: Google Allo — smart messaging | AppleVis

[Monica Jones]

Thanks bunches for the info. I won't stop using the native app but I do like 
to check out different apps. Apple is very good with security, I believe.



-Original Message- 
From: Shaf Patel

Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Google Allo — smart messaging | AppleVis

They don't support end-to-end encryption by default. Apple services
however do.

On 9/26/2016 5:40 PM, Monica Jones wrote:

I installed this the other day but I have to creat a Google account
first. I closed out my old one for various reasons.


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Re: Google Allo — smart messaging | AppleVis

[Monica Jones]

I apologize; I forgot to write the main part of my message. I stated that I had 
to creat a Google account. What I wanted to say afterward was that while I 
could only go so far without the Google account, this app looks very accessible.


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Re: Google Allo — smart messaging | AppleVis

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They don't support end-to-end encryption by default. Apple services
however do.

On 9/26/2016 5:40 PM, Monica Jones wrote:
> I installed this the other day but I have to creat a Google account
> first. I closed out my old one for various reasons.
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:49 PM
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Re: Google Allo — smart messaging | AppleVis

[Monica Jones]

I installed this the other day but I have to creat a Google account first. 
I closed out my old one for various reasons.


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RE: upgrading

[rajmund]

Hi, thought of restoring the backup of the 6, on the SE, but the 
iCloud backup?


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On Behalf Of becky knaub

Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 3:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upgrading



Hi Rebecca,

It's Becky.  I hope you and Zeb are doing well.  I have the 
iPhone 7 and I went from a 5S to the seventh.  The seven isn't as 
big as the six or 6S.  In fact it's just a hair bigger than my 
5S.  It's just a touch wider and attach taller.  Still perfect 
for pocket-size.  Honestly the real estate is the same as working 
with the iPhone 5 or 5S.  I like it because it's faster and the 
home button is different but in a good way.  The battery seems to 
keep longer..  And compare to my 16 gig 5S my 128 gig seven can 
store much more.  Most features seem to work just the way they 
worked on the older phones.  The seven does not have a headphone 
jack but it does have an adapter that hooks into the charging 
port.  I myself prefer to use bone conduction headphones 
(aftershokz) I paired my Focus 40 blue with the seven and it 
worked great.  There's a new way to edit apps and in that feature 
you can also share apps.  iCloud back up and restore worked 
wonderfully for setting up my seven.  I really didn't have to do 
much other did enable voiceover type in my Apple ID and password 
and I was done.  I'm not sure what else you want to know but feel 
free to email me if you have any other questions.


Becky and Hazel
Sent from my iPhone


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Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you 
compare
the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the 
smaller
screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there 
are between

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RE: upgrading

[Robin]

MayBe you've got a Lemon AsItPertainsTo Your iPhoneSE

I like My iPhoneSE

I ReallyLike that FormFactor

Not TooBig & Not TooSmall, it's Just Right

But for Others SizeMatters
&
Bigger IS Better

WhatEver Floats Your Boat
At 06:16 AM 9/26/2016, you wrote:
I have the SE, just got it but, having problems getting all my 
contacts to sync, seems that it has not added any since July!  Also 
right now not able to answer it, and yes, I know how, have had an 
iPhone since the days of the 4 in 2011.  Oddly enough my 6 which I 
was going to trade in works better right now, and has everything the 
way I want it so, I may take the SE back despite the fact that I 
really like the size, depends on several factors, have 12 more days 
to decide.




Rose Combs
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Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
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Re: upgrading

[Alan Lemly]

Rebecca, 

Others have already discussed the physical differences between the iPhone SE 
and the 7 but you should also consider that the SE doesn't support 3D touch and 
the 7 does. 3D touch was introduced in September 2015 with the iPhone 6S line 
and allows access to additional settings or features by the amount of pressure 
pressed on the screen when engaging a particular control. Only Iphone models 6S 
and later support 3D touch and apparently Apple has expanded this feature set 
with iOS 10. This makes perfect sense because ultimately Apple is about selling 
product and folks will have to upgrade their devices to get access to 3D touch. 

Something to think about before you upgrade. Personally, I believe you are wise 
to get the most robust technology available when you upgrade provided the price 
isn't prohibitive. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 4:42 AM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
> the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
> screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there are between
> the two.  Thanks.
> 
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> Email: rilni...@gmail.com
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RE: upgrading

[Rose Combs]

Lucky, I did the 4s to 6 two years ago and it was simple, this time I have a 
mess on the SE.  I did not really wish to have the 7 an adapter to use 
headphones was the main reason, something more to carry or lose or break.  I 
looked at one, decided I like the SE form factor better but, it may go back I 
tried the iCloud restore but a lot of contacts were missing and my 6 backed up 
to iCloud daily and I had performed a backup to the computer at 11:40 Saturday 
morning but still having some problems with the phone.  I wish Apple had not 
taken away the ability to restore apps!  After all iTunes says if you use 
encrypted backup your passwords are saved, not so in my experience.  

 

I thought upgrade should be easy, this one has been bothersome all the way 
around.  Love the size, the fact that the power button is on the top again, in 
fact, but unless it starts working better with all the stuff I had on the 6 
which I still have until tomorrow, I may give it back and keep the phone that 
works for me with everything just where I want it.  

 

 

Rose Combs

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
becky knaub
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 3:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upgrading

 

Hi Rebecca,

It's Becky. I hope you and Zeb are doing well. I have the iPhone 7 and I went 
from a 5S to the seventh. The seven isn't as big as the six or 6S. In fact it's 
just a hair bigger than my 5S. It's just a touch wider and attach taller. Still 
perfect for pocket-size. Honestly the real estate is the same as working with 
the iPhone 5 or 5S. I like it because it's faster and the home button is 
different but in a good way. The battery seems to keep longer. And compare to 
my 16 gig 5S my 128 gig seven can store much more. Most features seem to work 
just the way they worked on the older phones. The seven does not have a 
headphone jack but it does have an adapter that hooks into the charging port. I 
myself prefer to use bone conduction headphones (aftershokz) I paired my Focus 
40 blue with the seven and it worked great. There's a new way to edit apps and 
in that feature you can also share apps. iCloud back up and restore worked 
wonderfully for setting up my seven. I really didn't have to do much other did 
enable voiceover type in my Apple ID and password and I was done. I'm not sure 
what else you want to know but feel free to email me if you have any other 
questions.

Becky and Hazel
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: upgradin

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi Becky. Zeb and I are doing well. It's great to hear from you. I saw a 7 this 
morning and it's not much bigger than the 5s. Do you have the 7+ or just the 7? 
What are the differences between the 7 and 7+? Thanks!

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilni...@gmail.com

On Sep 26, 2016, at 6:39 AM, becky knaub  wrote:

Hi Rebecca,
It's Becky. I hope you and Zeb are doing well. I have the iPhone 7 and I went 
from a 5S to the seventh. The seven isn't as big as the six or 6S. In fact it's 
just a hair bigger than my 5S. It's just a touch wider and attach taller. Still 
perfect for pocket-size. Honestly the real estate is the same as working with 
the iPhone 5 or 5S. I like it because it's faster and the home button is 
different but in a good way. The battery seems to keep longer. And compare to 
my 16 gig 5S my 128 gig seven can store much more. Most features seem to work 
just the way they worked on the older phones. The seven does not have a 
headphone jack but it does have an adapter that hooks into the charging port. I 
myself prefer to use bone conduction headphones (aftershokz) I paired my Focus 
40 blue with the seven and it worked great. There's a new way to edit apps and 
in that feature you can also share apps. iCloud back up and restore worked 
wonderfully for setting up my seven. I really didn't have to do much other did 
enable voiceover type in my Apple ID and password and I was done. I'm not sure 
what else you want to know but feel free to email me if you have any other 
questions.
Becky and Hazel
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 5:42 AM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
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> Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
> the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
> screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there are between
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> 
> Rebecca Ilniski  and guide dog  Zeb
> Email: rilni...@gmail.com
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RE: upgrading

[Rose Combs]

I have the SE, just got it but, having problems getting all my contacts to 
sync, seems that it has not added any since July!  Also right now not able to 
answer it, and yes, I know how, have had an iPhone since the days of the 4 in 
2011.  Oddly enough my 6 which I was going to trade in works better right now, 
and has everything the way I want it so, I may take the SE back despite the 
fact that I really like the size, depends on several factors, have 12 more days 
to decide.  



Rose Combs
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Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
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Re: Apple watch

[Shaf Patel]

It's loud enough unless you're in a noisy environment, in which case
you'll want to use a Bluetooth headset such as the Aftershokz. If your
hearing aids support Bluetooth, you could probably pair the watch with them.

-Shaf

On 9/26/2016 12:58 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:
> How loud is the volume on the watch? I wear hearing aids and an worried
> I won't be able to hear it very well. Thinkinking about the new watch.
> Thank you. 
> 
> Lynda
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:03 AM, Paul Hunt  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jeremy. I love my Apple watch and use it all the time. It is the
>> coolest and unnecessary device that I've ever owned. For this reason I
>> would replace the watch when I could no longer update the Watch OS. 
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Jeremy Gilley > > wrote:
>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> So, I am a guy who likes his toys, but because I like my toys, I tend
>>> to not care of the pricing of them as long as they are well worth the
>>> money.
>>>
>>> So, the first watch that came out, I didn't think twice about not
>>> getting it because it was just the first version.
>>>
>>> I am now thinking of buying the new version, however, something is
>>> making me pause.
>>>
>>> Do you think these watches will come out as frequently as the phones?
>>>
>>> If so, man, that might be a stinker because I usually get a new phone
>>> every single time they come out with a new one. Buying a watch on top
>>> of a new phone might get nuts. Not to mention expensive.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> I guess if you get a new watch each year, one will learn to sell or
>>> put old watch on E-Bay?
>>>
>>> Anyways, for those of you who got version one, and now version 2 of
>>> the watch that just came out, what are your views and or opinions?
>>>
>>> Do you think you will get a new watch every single year they come out?
>>>
>>> Or is it one of those things you play it by ear as each one comes
>>> out. If it is a massive improvement yeah, but if it is just meh, then
>>> you wait?
>>>
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Re: Apple watch

[Lynda Ingraham]

How loud is the volume on the watch? I wear hearing aids and an worried I won't 
be able to hear it very well. Thinkinking about the new watch. Thank you. 

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:03 AM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jeremy. I love my Apple watch and use it all the time. It is the 
> coolest and unnecessary device that I've ever owned. For this reason I would 
> replace the watch when I could no longer update the Watch OS. 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok,
>>  
>> So, I am a guy who likes his toys, but because I like my toys, I tend to not 
>> care of the pricing of them as long as they are well worth the money.
>> So, the first watch that came out, I didn't think twice about not getting it 
>> because it was just the first version.
>> I am now thinking of buying the new version, however, something is making me 
>> pause.
>> Do you think these watches will come out as frequently as the phones?
>> If so, man, that might be a stinker because I usually get a new phone every 
>> single time they come out with a new one. Buying a watch on top of a new 
>> phone might get nuts. Not to mention expensive.
>> Thoughts?
>> I guess if you get a new watch each year, one will learn to sell or put old 
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Re: upgrading

[Christopher Chaltain]

According to the specs at http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ the 7 and 
7 Plus are the same size as the 6S and 6S Plus and are larger than the SE.


On 26/09/16 05:39, becky knaub wrote:

Hi Rebecca,
It's Becky. I hope you and Zeb are doing well. I have the iPhone 7 and I
went from a 5S to the seventh. The seven isn't as big as the six or 6S.
In fact it's just a hair bigger than my 5S. It's just a touch wider and
attach taller. Still perfect for pocket-size. Honestly the real estate
is the same as working with the iPhone 5 or 5S. I like it because it's
faster and the home button is different but in a good way. The battery
seems to keep longer. And compare to my 16 gig 5S my 128 gig seven can
store much more. Most features seem to work just the way they worked on
the older phones. The seven does not have a headphone jack but it does
have an adapter that hooks into the charging port. I myself prefer to
use bone conduction headphones (aftershokz) I paired my Focus 40 blue
with the seven and it worked great. There's a new way to edit apps and
in that feature you can also share apps. iCloud back up and restore
worked wonderfully for setting up my seven. I really didn't have to do
much other did enable voiceover type in my Apple ID and password and I
was done. I'm not sure what else you want to know but feel free to email
me if you have any other questions.
Becky and Hazel
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2016, at 5:42 AM, Rebecca Ilniski > wrote:


Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there are
between
the two.  Thanks.

Rebecca Ilniski  and guide dog  Zeb
Email: rilni...@gmail.com 


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Re: upgrading

[Dave]

the iPhone 7, is the same size as the iPhone 6 and 6s, which is 4.7 inches. 
it’s the plus versions of these phones wich is bigger.

Dave.

From: becky knaub 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: upgrading

Hi Rebecca,
It's Becky. I hope you and Zeb are doing well. I have the iPhone 7 and I went 
from a 5S to the seventh. The seven isn't as big as the six or 6S. In fact it's 
just a hair bigger than my 5S. It's just a touch wider and attach taller. Still 
perfect for pocket-size. Honestly the real estate is the same as working with 
the iPhone 5 or 5S. I like it because it's faster and the home button is 
different but in a good way. The battery seems to keep longer. And compare to 
my 16 gig 5S my 128 gig seven can store much more. Most features seem to work 
just the way they worked on the older phones. The seven does not have a 
headphone jack but it does have an adapter that hooks into the charging port. I 
myself prefer to use bone conduction headphones (aftershokz) I paired my Focus 
40 blue with the seven and it worked great. There's a new way to edit apps and 
in that feature you can also share apps. iCloud back up and restore worked 
wonderfully for setting up my seven. I really didn't have to do much other did 
enable voiceover type in my Apple ID and password and I was done. I'm not sure 
what else you want to know but feel free to email me if you have any other 
questions.
Becky and Hazel
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2016, at 5:42 AM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:


  Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
  the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
  screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there are between
  the two.  Thanks.

  Rebecca Ilniski  and guide dog  Zeb
  Email: rilni...@gmail.com


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Re: upgrading

[becky knaub]

Hi Rebecca,
It's Becky. I hope you and Zeb are doing well. I have the iPhone 7 and I went 
from a 5S to the seventh. The seven isn't as big as the six or 6S. In fact it's 
just a hair bigger than my 5S. It's just a touch wider and attach taller. Still 
perfect for pocket-size. Honestly the real estate is the same as working with 
the iPhone 5 or 5S. I like it because it's faster and the home button is 
different but in a good way. The battery seems to keep longer. And compare to 
my 16 gig 5S my 128 gig seven can store much more. Most features seem to work 
just the way they worked on the older phones. The seven does not have a 
headphone jack but it does have an adapter that hooks into the charging port. I 
myself prefer to use bone conduction headphones (aftershokz) I paired my Focus 
40 blue with the seven and it worked great. There's a new way to edit apps and 
in that feature you can also share apps. iCloud back up and restore worked 
wonderfully for setting up my seven. I really didn't have to do much other did 
enable voiceover type in my Apple ID and password and I was done. I'm not sure 
what else you want to know but feel free to email me if you have any other 
questions.
Becky and Hazel
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 5:42 AM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
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> Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
> the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
> screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there are between
> the two.  Thanks.
> 
> Rebecca Ilniski  and guide dog  Zeb
> Email: rilni...@gmail.com
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Re: Vo sluggish after tvos update?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi.
Yes, it is Netflix I'm having the issue with  I've also noticed that
though I have audio description turned on, nothing seems to be
described any more.  I know a particular episode has been described
because I've watched it that way before the update but the DVS track
is gone.

Perplexed.
Jen

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> No, I have not noticed VoiceOver to be sluggish after the TV OS
> update; however, I have noticed that I am unable to press the info
> button to get to the info tab either when a show is playing or when it
> is paused. This is in the Netflix app on the Apple TV fourth
> generation. I was able to do this when a show was paused in the
> previous version of TV OS. What app are you attempting to play a show
> in?
>
>
> On 9/25/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> Hi.
>> Has anyone noticed that voiceover is sluggish when playing a show etc on
>> that apple tv after the latest update? Even if I pause the show and try
>> to
>> get to the "info" or anything vo doesn't respond. Really frustrated!
>> Thanks to anyone that can help!
>>
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upgrading

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi all.  I'm trying to decide which phone to upgrade to.  Can you compare
the SE and the seven for me as far as features go?  I like the smaller
screen size of the SE but wondering what other differences there are between
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Re: focus 14

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi.
It's not your display. X'; an email bug. I have the same problem with my focus 
14 and the iPhone.
Hth 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Kelsey Nicolay  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I was hoping someone with a Focus 14 or similar size Braille display could 
> help.  I have an ipad mini 4 and while the Focus works well with the device, 
> I have found that reading email messages is very cumbersome since panning the 
> display causes Voiceover to move to the next message when I have not read the 
> previous one.  Therefore, is there any way to improve the efficiency of 
> reading email with a Focus 14 or similar size display or will I need to 
> eventually switch to a larger display?
> Thank you,
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