Re: Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet

[Devin Prater]

Android only has real malware issues if one goes outside of the playstore.
Same for any open computer, like Mac or Windows.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:41 PM Christopher Chaltain 
wrote:

> There's much to agree with here, but the article referred to was from
> ZDNet, and that article did refer to another article which actually had
> some real information. It wasn't just anecdotal, and it wasn't just some
> rant from a guy in his basement with his own blog, which is what I was
> expecting.
>
> I would also think that quality of IOS and VoiceOver would be on topic
> for this list.
>
> It could also both be true that IOS has some quality issues and Android
> has some malware issues. They aren't mutually exclusive!
>
> Like I said, there's a lot to agree with below, such as how easy it
> would be for this to go off topic and just turn into bashing and not
> productive or constructive at all.
>
> On 14/12/16 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> > Pablo and others,
> >
> >
> >
> > You can find bunches of articles on anything on Google. I could send you
> > 50 links of articles which praise Apple and iOS to high heaven, then I
> > can send you just as many that are the complete opposite and the same
> > applies to Google/Android. I can probably even find you some die-hard
> > Blackberry fans who are posting that Blackberry is the best ever and
> > both iOS and Android are complete BS. I don't think we have to get into
> > what is better or if iOS is any good or anything like that. The point is
> > that this is an iOS list, we are all here because we use iOS devices due
> > to their very good level of accessibility. We all know there are bugs
> > and that there always will be bugs. We all  know that Apple with iOS,
> > Mac OS, TVOS and Watch OS don't have an exclusive on them, Android has
> > them, Windows has them, Google Chrome has them and other software like
> > Jaws, Office, Adobe, Firefox they all have bugs as do all apps.
> >
> > This list is and should be about helping each other, answering each
> > others questions and posting articles about some particularly cool app
> > or accessory. The list is also about posting about bugs you discover or
> > think you have discovered, sure you can point out your thoughts that
> > Apple should do more or that Apple really should have fixed this or that
> > bug already or during the Beta cycle, but I think these rants which then
> > result in endless one-liners about how somebody is right or wrong or
> > should go and get an Android phone if they aren't happy with the iPhone
> > are just getting old, they usually just rephrase what has already been
> > said a dozen times over. As you know very well yourself Android isn't
> > all it's made out to be and while you say you totally would have an
> > Android phone if you could see there are also thousands of ex-Android
> > users who can see and who love their new iPhones after making the
> > switch. Then of course there are those "happy" Android users who bought
> > Samsung's new flagship Note 7 only to be surprised when the smoke hit
> > the fan, if this had happened to the iPhone 7 Apple would have been
> > /crucified and in a much worse way than Samsung./
> >
> > Headlines like your ssubject "Apple has a serious problem with software
> > quality" are typical link bait, you can go on Google and find lots of
> > examples for either one, here is just one example that swings the other
> > way from Forbes: "New Android Malware Strikes At Millions Of
> Smartphones".
> >
> > Sometimes you even find something that is more objective like the
> > summary of this comparison article:
> >
> > iOS 10 vs Android 7.0 Nougat: Conclusion.
> >
> > In many respects, Android and iOS are very similar. They're both slick,
> > refined, competent mobile operating systems. Each has its advantages and
> > unique features, as well as frustrations and weaknesses.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sieghard
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *Pablo C. Morales
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:42 PM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet
> >
> >
> >
> > Look at this article, you can find bunches of them on
> > google.
> >
> >
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-has-a-serious-problem-with-software-quality/
> >
> >
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Re: Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet

[Christopher Chaltain]

There's much to agree with here, but the article referred to was from 
ZDNet, and that article did refer to another article which actually had 
some real information. It wasn't just anecdotal, and it wasn't just some 
rant from a guy in his basement with his own blog, which is what I was 
expecting.


I would also think that quality of IOS and VoiceOver would be on topic 
for this list.


It could also both be true that IOS has some quality issues and Android 
has some malware issues. They aren't mutually exclusive!


Like I said, there's a lot to agree with below, such as how easy it 
would be for this to go off topic and just turn into bashing and not 
productive or constructive at all.


On 14/12/16 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Pablo and others,



You can find bunches of articles on anything on Google. I could send you
50 links of articles which praise Apple and iOS to high heaven, then I
can send you just as many that are the complete opposite and the same
applies to Google/Android. I can probably even find you some die-hard
Blackberry fans who are posting that Blackberry is the best ever and
both iOS and Android are complete BS. I don't think we have to get into
what is better or if iOS is any good or anything like that. The point is
that this is an iOS list, we are all here because we use iOS devices due
to their very good level of accessibility. We all know there are bugs
and that there always will be bugs. We all  know that Apple with iOS,
Mac OS, TVOS and Watch OS don't have an exclusive on them, Android has
them, Windows has them, Google Chrome has them and other software like
Jaws, Office, Adobe, Firefox they all have bugs as do all apps.

This list is and should be about helping each other, answering each
others questions and posting articles about some particularly cool app
or accessory. The list is also about posting about bugs you discover or
think you have discovered, sure you can point out your thoughts that
Apple should do more or that Apple really should have fixed this or that
bug already or during the Beta cycle, but I think these rants which then
result in endless one-liners about how somebody is right or wrong or
should go and get an Android phone if they aren't happy with the iPhone
are just getting old, they usually just rephrase what has already been
said a dozen times over. As you know very well yourself Android isn't
all it's made out to be and while you say you totally would have an
Android phone if you could see there are also thousands of ex-Android
users who can see and who love their new iPhones after making the
switch. Then of course there are those "happy" Android users who bought
Samsung's new flagship Note 7 only to be surprised when the smoke hit
the fan, if this had happened to the iPhone 7 Apple would have been
/crucified and in a much worse way than Samsung./

Headlines like your ssubject "Apple has a serious problem with software
quality" are typical link bait, you can go on Google and find lots of
examples for either one, here is just one example that swings the other
way from Forbes: "New Android Malware Strikes At Millions Of Smartphones".

Sometimes you even find something that is more objective like the
summary of this comparison article:

iOS 10 vs Android 7.0 Nougat: Conclusion.

In many respects, Android and iOS are very similar. They're both slick,
refined, competent mobile operating systems. Each has its advantages and
unique features, as well as frustrations and weaknesses.





Regards,

Sieghard



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Pablo C. Morales
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:42 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet



Look at this article, you can find bunches of them on
google.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-has-a-serious-problem-with-software-quality/



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RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Chermeen,



Not sure how much your hubby is worth 

Anyways, if it is in your budget and now that Apple just announced their 
earpods will be available to order online as well as at Apple Stores next week, 
I would seriously consider them. Of course since nobody has any yet apart from 
the few Apple gave out to reviewers earlier nobody has reported how well they 
work, but I have a feel that they are going to be very good and will be among 
the top choices.





Regards,

Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shermeen Khan
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:22 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?



Hi, just resending this message because I'm persistent and possibly annoying. 
Please tell me about the bluetooth ear buds you're using and if you like them 
or not? and then I'll thank you when my husband is happy with his Christmas 
present! :)



Shermeen





On 12/7/16, Shermeen Khan > 
wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> With the recent addition of an infant to our family, my husband and I

> are in the market for some Bluetooth ear buds (the kind that suction

> into your ear, not the hard, round ones that typically come in the

> IPhone box), as a wireless option would be best and not easy to grab

> onto with tiny fingers. Any suggestions for ones with decent sound

> quality and that are easy to use?

>

> Thanks so much in advance,

>

> Shermeen

>



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RE: Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Pablo and others,

You can find bunches of articles on anything on Google. I could send you 50 
links of articles which praise Apple and iOS to high heaven, then I can send 
you just as many that are the complete opposite and the same applies to 
Google/Android. I can probably even find you some die-hard Blackberry fans who 
are posting that Blackberry is the best ever and both iOS and Android are 
complete BS. I don't think we have to get into what is better or if iOS is any 
good or anything like that. The point is that this is an iOS list, we are all 
here because we use iOS devices due to their very good level of accessibility. 
We all know there are bugs and that there always will be bugs. We all  know 
that Apple with iOS, Mac OS, TVOS and Watch OS don't have an exclusive on them, 
Android has them, Windows has them, Google Chrome has them and other software 
like Jaws, Office, Adobe, Firefox they all have bugs as do all apps.
This list is and should be about helping each other, answering each others 
questions and posting articles about some particularly cool app or accessory. 
The list is also about posting about bugs you discover or think you have 
discovered, sure you can point out your thoughts that Apple should do more or 
that Apple really should have fixed this or that bug already or during the Beta 
cycle, but I think these rants which then result in endless one-liners about 
how somebody is right or wrong or should go and get an Android phone if they 
aren't happy with the iPhone are just getting old, they usually just rephrase 
what has already been said a dozen times over. As you know very well yourself 
Android isn't all it's made out to be and while you say you totally would have 
an Android phone if you could see there are also thousands of ex-Android users 
who can see and who love their new iPhones after making the switch. Then of 
course there are those "happy" Android users who bought Samsung's new flagship 
Note 7 only to be surprised when the smoke hit the fan, if this had happened to 
the iPhone 7 Apple would have been crucified and in a much worse way than 
Samsung.
Headlines like your ssubject "Apple has a serious problem with software 
quality" are typical link bait, you can go on Google and find lots of examples 
for either one, here is just one example that swings the other way from Forbes: 
"New Android Malware Strikes At Millions Of Smartphones".
Sometimes you even find something that is more objective like the summary of 
this comparison article:
iOS 10 vs Android 7.0 Nougat: Conclusion.
In many respects, Android and iOS are very similar. They're both slick, 
refined, competent mobile operating systems. Each has its advantages and unique 
features, as well as frustrations and weaknesses.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo C. Morales
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet

Look at this article, you can find bunches of them on google.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-has-a-serious-problem-with-software-quality/

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Now is time to the bugs on apple watches

[Pablo C. Morales]

http://fortune.com/2016/12/14/apple-watch-watchos-update/

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Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet

[Pablo C. Morales]

Look at this article, you can find bunches of them on
google.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-has-a-serious-problem-with-software-quali
ty/

 

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Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

[Shermeen Khan]

Hi, just resending this message because I'm persistent and possibly
annoying. Please tell me about the bluetooth ear buds you're using and
if you like them or not? and then I'll thank you when my husband is
happy with his Christmas present! :)

Shermeen


On 12/7/16, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> With the recent addition of an infant to our family, my husband and I
> are in the market for some Bluetooth ear buds (the kind that suction
> into your ear, not the hard, round ones that typically come in the
> IPhone box), as a wireless option would be best and not easy to grab
> onto with tiny fingers. Any suggestions for ones with decent sound
> quality and that are easy to use?
>
> Thanks so much in advance,
>
> Shermeen
>

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Re: List of iPhone gestures?

[Anthony Vece]

Ok, thanks!


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anthony,
>  
> As Anna, Ed and some others have already explained you can do a sort of 
> zigzag gesture basically draw a letter "Z" with 2 fingers on the screen.
> However, it is actually not even necessary to do the left to right, then 
> across and down to the left and back to the right gesture.
> All you have to do is put 2 fingers on the screen close to the left edge of 
> the phone, move them straigh across to the right side and about half way back 
> to the left. You can do this basically in a straight line and it will work 
> just the same. As somebody pointed out, go to Voiceover Settings and intot he 
> practice area and try it, Voiceover will say "2 finger scrub, escapes the 
> current context".
> The main trick is that when you slide your 2 fingers back from right to left 
> after doing the left to right slide that you only go back part of the way. 
> It's actually a fairly easy gesture compared with others like turning the 
> rotor etc.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: List of iPhone gestures?
>  
> I never was able to use the scrub gesture.
> Can someone describe it to me please?
> Thanks in advance.
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
> 
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,
> National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at
> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IOS10-REF.html
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>  
> I want to introduce someone who isn't very techy to an iPhone ... because she 
> thinks she wants one.  I would like to give her a Brailled list of gestures, 
> but so far haven't been able to find one.  I know I can make one up, but I 
> would rather have something organized by someone who won't miss any.
> 
> Is there a list somewhere
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ann
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RE: List of iPhone gestures?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Anthony,

As Anna, Ed and some others have already explained you can do a sort of zigzag 
gesture basically draw a letter "Z" with 2 fingers on the screen.
However, it is actually not even necessary to do the left to right, then across 
and down to the left and back to the right gesture.
All you have to do is put 2 fingers on the screen close to the left edge of the 
phone, move them straigh across to the right side and about half way back to 
the left. You can do this basically in a straight line and it will work just 
the same. As somebody pointed out, go to Voiceover Settings and intot he 
practice area and try it, Voiceover will say "2 finger scrub, escapes the 
current context".
The main trick is that when you slide your 2 fingers back from right to left 
after doing the left to right slide that you only go back part of the way. It's 
actually a fairly easy gesture compared with others like turning the rotor etc.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: List of iPhone gestures?

I never was able to use the scrub gesture.
Can someone describe it to me please?
Thanks in advance.
Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> wrote:
Hi Ann,
National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IOS10-REF.html

Best,
Anna



On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Ann Byrne 
> wrote:

I want to introduce someone who isn't very techy to an iPhone ... because she 
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would rather have something organized by someone who won't miss any.

Is there a list somewhere

Thanks,

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RE: Apple TV’s universal search feature now supports over 50 channels including Apple Music, TBS, & more

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just FYI, when I clicked on the link to look at what was supported in which 
countries it is very little if you are not in the US. Australia has 6 services 
apart from iTunes movies and TV Shows and that includes Netflix.
Canada and the united Kingdom have an impressive 2 services other than iTunes 
and Netflix, they are Hopster and Mubi and I don't even  know what these are as 
I have never heard about them.
In France and Mexico only iTunes and Netflix are supported, in Germany it is 
those two and something called Galileo
Then other than what I have listed above only "Other Countries and Regions" is 
mentioned with support for Movies in iTunes.

I was at least somewhat surprised when I read on CBC News this morning that 
Amazon is apparently launching Amazon Prime Video here in Canada and just as in 
the States it is part of Amazon Prime or it can be purchased separately. Now 
maybe an Amazon Prime subscription fianlly is worth it here in Canada.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Apple TV’s universal search feature now supports over 50 channels 
including Apple Music, TBS, & more

Apple TV’s universal search feature now supports over 50 channels including 
Apple Music, TBS, & more
9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall


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Apple has steadily been gaining new partners to its universal search feature on 
the fourth-gen Apple TV since its launch 
last fall, and this week the number of compatible channels in the United States 
has topped over 50. Several new additions including Apple Music, Animal Planet, 
Discovery, TBS, and TNT all now work with search.

Search lets you find movies and TV shows across various apps by asking Siri or 
using the Search app. The prior method required digging through each app 
individually; universal search doesn’t even require having the channels 
installed.

Here’s the full list of search partners in the United States:

Movies and TV shows in iTunes A ABC AMC Animal Planet GO Apple Music Bravo 
CBS Comedy Central Cooking Channel Crunchyroll CuriosityStream CW Seed 
Discovery GO Disney Channel Disney Jr Disney DIY E! Food Network FOXNOW FXNOW 
FYI Hallmark Channel HBO GO HBO NOW HGTV History Hulu Investigation Discovery 
GO Lifetime MTV MUBI Nat Geo TV NBC Netflix PBS PBS Kids Science Channel GO 
SHOWTIME SHOWTIME Anytime Starz Syfy TBS Telemundo The CW TLC GO TNT Travel 
Channel Tribeca Shortlist USA VH1

You can find the full list of search partners across various countries 
here.

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Re: List of iPhone gestures?

[Anthony Vece]

I'll try it. Thank you.


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> On Dec 14, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Anthony,
> 
> Move two fingers in one direction, then the opposite direction, then the 
> first again. So right left right, up, down, up, etc.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> I never was able to use the scrub gesture.
>> Can someone describe it to me please?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Anthony
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ann,
>>> National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at
>>> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IOS10-REF.html
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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 I want to introduce someone who isn't very techy to an iPhone ... because 
 she thinks she wants one.  I would like to give her a Brailled list of 
 gestures, but so far haven't been able to find one.  I know I can make one 
 up, but I would rather have something organized by someone who won't miss 
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 Is there a list somewhere
 
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iPhone gestures? ... scrub

[Ann Byrne]

Accessibility, ppractice is a good place to try it till you figure it out.

Good luck!

At 01:00 PM 12/14/2016, you wrote:

I never was able to use the scrub gesture.
Can someone describe it to me please?
Thanks in advance.
Anthony


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Hi Ann,
National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at
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Best,
Anna



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I want to introduce someone who isn't very techy to an iPhone ... 
because she thinks she wants one.  I would like to give her a 
Brailled list of gestures, but so far haven't been able to find 
one.  I know I can make one up, but I would rather have something 
organized by someone who won't miss any.


Is there a list somewhere

Thanks,

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Re: List of iPhone gestures?

[Anthony Vece]

I'll try it. Thank you.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
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> Hi Anthony,
> I will try and describe it in two different ways.
> 1.   Take two fingers and put them on the screen. Then go to the right 
> about an inch then go down and back to the left about an inch then go to the 
> right again. Do this without lifting your two fingers off the screen and do 
> it fast.
> 2.   2. Now the second way I am going to try and explain it. If you know 
> how to make the letter Z then all you do is put two fingers on the screen an 
> make the letter Z.
> I hope this helps.
> Mr. Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: List of iPhone gestures?
>  
> I never was able to use the scrub gesture.
> Can someone describe it to me please?
> Thanks in advance.
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
> 
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,
> National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at
> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IOS10-REF.html
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
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> I want to introduce someone who isn't very techy to an iPhone ... because she 
> thinks she wants one.  I would like to give her a Brailled list of gestures, 
> but so far haven't been able to find one.  I know I can make one up, but I 
> would rather have something organized by someone who won't miss any.
> 
> Is there a list somewhere
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ann
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Re: Tidal music service

[Terje Strømberg]

I use an app called Audirvana Plus 2. The price for this app is about $100, but 
is worth it. Open up for Tidal in Audirvana preferences. Read user guide to be 
more familiar is a good advice. Although it is very easy to use with voice 
over. To hit play on a song title with keyboard i needed to make a «one left 
mouse click» command on the numeric keyboard. Vo + j to move around and the 
first letter in the sidepanel table. The drawback, not good thing, is that 
Audirvana do not read artist names in album table. Only in song title tables in 
the albbum. It is possible to search for album titles with vo - i i.e. the 
object chooser.

The Tidal web browser was pretty good accessible before with the object chooser 
vo - i. Don’t now how it is theeese days.

Take care 


> 13. des. 2016 kl. 05.05 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> Hi all,
> I wonder if anyone here has experience with a TIDAL music service. 
> Specifically of course, the first question would be about accessibility and 
> ease-of-use of the app. I'm kind of interested in the higher fidelity audio 
> that is offered, although I don't know the extent of the catalog. I'm mostly 
> a classical music and jazz listener. Of course, I have iTunes match and a 
> large Apple Music library. But the notion of lossless is intriguing, 
> especially as I have a pair of headphones with digital to analog converter 
> that I think would take good advantage of this lossless service. So I'm 
> wondering if folks have had good or bad experiences.
> Mary
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Gboard

[Mary Otten]

That is apparently the name of the Google keyboard for iOS. I wonder if anyone 
has tried it and whether it works with voiceover. For me, the most interesting 
thing about it is that it seemingly includes a number row, without having to 
switch like you do with the standard Apple keyboard. That would be nice.
Mary


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RE: List of iPhone gestures?

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Hi Anthony,

I will try and describe it in two different ways.

1.   Take two fingers and put them on the screen. Then go to the right 
about an inch then go down and back to the left about an inch then go to the 
right again. Do this without lifting your two fingers off the screen and do it 
fast.

2.   2. Now the second way I am going to try and explain it. If you know 
how to make the letter Z then all you do is put two fingers on the screen an 
make the letter Z.

I hope this helps.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: List of iPhone gestures?

 

I never was able to use the scrub gesture.

Can someone describe it to me please?

Thanks in advance.

Anthony



Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!


On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Ann,

National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at

http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IOS10-REF.html

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

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but so far haven't been able to find one.  I know I can make one up, but I 
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Re: List of iPhone gestures?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Anthony,

Move two fingers in one direction, then the opposite direction, then the first 
again. So right left right, up, down, up, etc.

Best,
Anna
 


> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I never was able to use the scrub gesture.
> Can someone describe it to me please?
> Thanks in advance.
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
> 
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ann,
>> National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at
>> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IOS10-REF.html 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Ann Byrne >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I want to introduce someone who isn't very techy to an iPhone ... because 
>>> she thinks she wants one.  I would like to give her a Brailled list of 
>>> gestures, but so far haven't been able to find one.  I know I can make one 
>>> up, but I would rather have something organized by someone who won't miss 
>>> any.
>>> 
>>> Is there a list somewhere
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ann
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Re: List of iPhone gestures?

[Anthony Vece]

I never was able to use the scrub gesture.
Can someone describe it to me please?
Thanks in advance.
Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

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> National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at
> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IOS10-REF.html
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>> 
>> I want to introduce someone who isn't very techy to an iPhone ... because 
>> she thinks she wants one.  I would like to give her a Brailled list of 
>> gestures, but so far haven't been able to find one.  I know I can make one 
>> up, but I would rather have something organized by someone who won't miss 
>> any.
>> 
>> Is there a list somewhere
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ann
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Apple TV’s universal search feature now supports over 50 channels including Apple Music, TBS, & more

[Mary Otten]

Apple TV’s universal search feature now supports over 50 channels including 
Apple Music, TBS, & more
9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall


Apple has steadily been gaining new partners to its universal search feature on 
the fourth-gen Apple TV since its launch last fall, and this week the number of 
compatible channels in the United States has topped over 50. Several new 
additions including Apple Music, Animal Planet, Discovery, TBS, and TNT all now 
work with search.


Search lets you find movies and TV shows across various apps by asking Siri or 
using the Search app. The prior method required digging through each app 
individually; universal search doesn’t even require having the channels 
installed.

Here’s the full list of search partners in the United States:

Movies and TV shows in iTunes A ABC AMC Animal Planet GO Apple Music Bravo 
CBS Comedy Central Cooking Channel Crunchyroll CuriosityStream CW Seed 
Discovery GO Disney Channel Disney Jr Disney DIY E! Food Network FOXNOW FXNOW 
FYI Hallmark Channel HBO GO HBO NOW HGTV History Hulu Investigation Discovery 
GO Lifetime MTV MUBI Nat Geo TV NBC Netflix PBS PBS Kids Science Channel GO 
SHOWTIME SHOWTIME Anytime Starz Syfy TBS Telemundo The CW TLC GO TNT Travel 
Channel Tribeca Shortlist USA VH1

You can find the full list of search partners across various countries here.

Guides

Apple TV


View THe Guide


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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Chip Orange]

I would not expect this problem, as not many people (as Sieghard mentioned) are 
reporting this.

I did see this some months back, and it turned out to be an app I newly 
installed (Roger).  Roger has since fixed their problem which caused them to 
drain batteries quickly, but always keep in mind it could be a new app.  I'd 
especially keep looking at the top status line to see if "location services" 
are listed as being on; as everyone knows, they do put a load on batteries, and 
you may find some app which is using location which you didn't know about.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

  OK and now i wonder, if anyone with iPhone 5S have the 
battery-draining experience? I'm in the process now of updating mine 
through ITunes, so to kind of know if I should expect this problem or not?

El 11/11/2016 05:45 p.m., Todd Patkus escribió:
> Donna,
>
> You should report this to Apple Accessibility.
>
> Todd
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 4:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>
> My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my 
> battery was fine.
>
> Donna
>> Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, before 
>> the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, did you 
>> have these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise since the 
>> update to iOS10?
>>
>> El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
>>> For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
>>> recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this 
>>> does not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>>>
>>>
>>>What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>>>
>>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
 ann,
 Was this using iTunes?
 Thanks, Sandy

 sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donnawrote:
>
> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>
> Donna
>> Hello Donna,
>>
>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
>> the battery drain.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donnawrote:
>>>
>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&done a complete restore 
>>> with no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>>> turned off the phone&left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>>> out of ideas!
>>>
>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>
>>> Donna
 hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! 
 I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, 
 and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone 
 which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can 
 I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?

 thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy

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RE: Why use a Braille display with the Iphone

[Chip Orange]

Hi Terri,

I don't use one, but it so happens a friend of mine just told me today she 
recently ordered an Amazon "Echo Dot".  It said "Echo Dot", and she thought 
that was "Echo" followed by a period (which speech does sometimes says as "dot" 
when it thinks it's a number or some unusual context".  In otherwords, she 
thought she was getting the full-sized Echo for the $35 sale price, but what 
came was the mini-sized Echo Dot!  

Point being, you can mis-understand with speech (especially when punctuation is 
involved).

I've been thinking I would look at the newest APH bluetooth braille display to 
hit the market when it was available (I think called the Orbit) because it's 
supposed to be quite reasonably priced.  I've been a speech user all my life, 
but it is sometimes hard to listen in a noisey environment, or when others are 
talking to you and you're trying to use your device at the same time.

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Why use a Braille display with the Iphone

Hello everyone,


I was just wondering, what are some reasons for wanting to use a Braille 
display with your Iphone?

What are the benefits?

What are the disadvantages?


Honestly, I've never understood why you would want to do this. I'm not 
trying to offend anyone here who uses one. I've just never seen the point.

But now I am curious. Just to get some hopefully helpful information 
about this.

I was wondering, how can you find out which Braille displays will work 
with the Iphone?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: List of iPhone gestures?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Ann,
National Braille Press has just such a reference card. Check it out at
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IOS10-REF.html 


Best,
Anna



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> thinks she wants one.  I would like to give her a Brailled list of gestures, 
> but so far haven't been able to find one.  I know I can make one up, but I 
> would rather have something organized by someone who won't miss any.
> 
> Is there a list somewhere
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ann
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List of iPhone gestures?

[Ann Byrne]

I want to introduce someone who isn't very techy to an iPhone ... 
because she thinks she wants one.  I would like to give her a 
Brailled list of gestures, but so far haven't been able to find 
one.  I know I can make one up, but I would rather have something 
organized by someone who won't miss any.


Is there a list somewhere

Thanks,

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[rajmund]

Hello,
I left it on 9, primarily for the email reading bug, where 
flicking up with 2 fingers reads the entire 9.7 inch screen.  I 
would otherwise update, but because of this, I choose not to.


Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: "Russ Kiehne"  
wrote:



How do you know that apple is looking to it?
Apple always looks, but never solves ...
Is that right?

cheers.

as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well.  As most 
of the
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much 
difficulty.
However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this 
is to

swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  
wrote:

Hi Sieghard.
I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend 
has a 7 and

she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is 
connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens 
if she
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call 
manually

as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and 
enables the

keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer 
menu prompts

etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it 
happens for

some and not others.

Thanks.

Don



On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed 
any
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am 
not 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Russ Kiehne]

I was not able to update my ipad mini to ios 10.  I ended up buying a ipad 
mini 4 so I could give it a ttry.  So far, I like it.  My ipad mini 4 is my 
favorite device for reading books and listening to old time radio shows.


-Original Message- 
From: Rajmund

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?




Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:








hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.



as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if 
you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech 
support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default 
download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard 
with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be 
install.

So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't 
plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Guys,
I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.

Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of regina alvarado

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more 
it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have 
heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. 
Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not 
complaining, please.


Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:


How do you know that apple is looking to it?
Apple always looks, but never solves ...
Is that right?

cheers.

as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
swipe to the keypad button and activate it.

Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
Hi Sieghard.
I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
she does have the problem.


The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
as well.


Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.


My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
etc.


Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
some and not others.


Thanks.

Don



On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
issue?
When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of 
the other buttons.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Don Breda

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Hi Pablo
very well said.
I completely agree with you.
If I were sighted,  I would never use anything from apple.
Would certainly use android with the best phone in the world at the 
moment. The galaxy S7.

But as I am total blind I have to use apple because of accessibility.
I hope soon google team and talkback will make me forget Apple completely.
cheers.


Às 11:06 de 14/12/2016, Pablo C. Morales escreveu:

Sorry, but it sound very similar than forcing you. Through stress, through 
making you tired of those announcements, and many other ways. It is forcing 
you, more over if you didn't require tech support, good for you, but if you 
require tech support, mandatory you have to install the last IOs, they don't 
care if that IOs has millions of voice over bugs, you have to install it. So, 
if it is no forcing customers, it looks very similar.
Again, I use iPhone no because I like apple policies, either because I like the 
way how I have my hands tied due to the many limitations that the apple 
platform has. No, I am using iPhone no because of those important things. I use 
iPhone because of the accessibility. Unfortunately I am blind, but for sure if 
I would be sighted, I would have an android phone. I see what my wife is able 
to do using her android phone, and really it looks magic. I am no able to do 
none of them because the limited apple platform.
However, it is what I have right now. No more choices for me. So I have to buy 
apple.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Hello Pablo,
Thanks for that.  However, I guess I wanted to prove that you can keep things 
on earlier versions, and you're not forced.  It's a first generation air, so 
should take the update fine.  Yes, I have just been keep canceling, but 
everyone can do that.  So I'll say it again, apple tries, but is not forcing 
the updates.Sent from a BrailleNote


  - Original Message -
From: "Pablo C.  Morales"   hi Pablo.
  Yes apple forces us to do the update.
  Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still on 9 
with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll.  :P



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  

Re: Why use a Braille display with the Iphone

[Dave Sheridan]

Hi Terri 

I can't answer your last question as I only have experience of using the 
Braille Note Apex. I think the clear answer for me not only applies to the 
iPhone but also to the use of iPad or a laptop. You aren't solely dependent on 
speech for accessing what's on the screen, you can read it through braille. 
This, of course, is a necessity for a deafblind person. There is a further 
reason in that you can write your texts, emails or comments on facebook using a 
braille keyboard rather than a keyboard on the screen. No doubt, the cost of 
braille displays are very expensive which means you have to give it much 
consideration before spending this money but direct access and reading oneself 
rather than listening is empowering. I hope that helps. 

Dave 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Dec 2016, at 07:44, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I was just wondering, what are some reasons for wanting to use a Braille 
> display with your Iphone?
> 
> What are the benefits?
> 
> What are the disadvantages?
> 
> 
> Honestly, I've never understood why you would want to do this. I'm not 
> trying to offend anyone here who uses one. I've just never seen the point.
> 
> But now I am curious. Just to get some hopefully helpful information 
> about this.
> 
> I was wondering, how can you find out which Braille displays will work 
> with the Iphone?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo C. Morales]

Sorry, but it sound very similar than forcing you. Through stress, through 
making you tired of those announcements, and many other ways. It is forcing 
you, more over if you didn't require tech support, good for you, but if you 
require tech support, mandatory you have to install the last IOs, they don't 
care if that IOs has millions of voice over bugs, you have to install it. So, 
if it is no forcing customers, it looks very similar.
Again, I use iPhone no because I like apple policies, either because I like the 
way how I have my hands tied due to the many limitations that the apple 
platform has. No, I am using iPhone no because of those important things. I use 
iPhone because of the accessibility. Unfortunately I am blind, but for sure if 
I would be sighted, I would have an android phone. I see what my wife is able 
to do using her android phone, and really it looks magic. I am no able to do 
none of them because the limited apple platform.
However, it is what I have right now. No more choices for me. So I have to buy 
apple.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Hello Pablo,
Thanks for that.  However, I guess I wanted to prove that you can keep things 
on earlier versions, and you're not forced.  It's a first generation air, so 
should take the update fine.  Yes, I have just been keep canceling, but 
everyone can do that.  So I'll say it again, apple tries, but is not forcing 
the updates.Sent from a BrailleNote


 - Original Message -
From: "Pablo C.  Morales"   hi Pablo.
 Yes apple forces us to do the update.
 Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still on 9 
with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll.  :P



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  

Re: Why use a Braille display with the Iphone

[Richard Turner]

I'll take the easy part of your question first. The manual has information on 
all the braille displays that work with the iPhone. Also, if you go to 
www.apple.com/accessibility
you can also find that information.
Why questions can be difficult as each person will likely have a slightly 
different reason.
The most obvious one is if you are deaf-blind.
Or, if you are a person who absorbs information better by physically reading in 
braille rather than listening. Or, if you are a braille reader and are in 
situations where you cannot or don't want to have VoiceOver speaking out loud 
and do not want to wear earphones.
And so on.
I hope that helps.
Richard


"By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:22 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> wrote:

The key detail is feeling what you're doing if you can't see it or hear it.  
Also, not hear it if in a noisy or public environment
and can't use head gear at the same time.  Don't take what you have too much 
for granted, you may yet get to regret it.

R.
- Original Message -
From: "Terri Stimmel" 
>
To: >
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:44 AM
Subject: Why use a Braille display with the Iphone


Hello everyone,


I was just wondering, what are some reasons for wanting to use a Braille
display with your Iphone?

What are the benefits?

What are the disadvantages?


Honestly, I've never understood why you would want to do this. I'm not
trying to offend anyone here who uses one. I've just never seen the point.

But now I am curious. Just to get some hopefully helpful information
about this.

I was wondering, how can you find out which Braille displays will work
with the Iphone?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Why use a Braille display with the Iphone

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

The key detail is feeling what you're doing if you can't see it or hear it.  
Also, not hear it if in a noisy or public environment 
and can't use head gear at the same time.  Don't take what you have too much 
for granted, you may yet get to regret it.

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:44 AM
Subject: Why use a Braille display with the Iphone


Hello everyone,


I was just wondering, what are some reasons for wanting to use a Braille
display with your Iphone?

What are the benefits?

What are the disadvantages?


Honestly, I've never understood why you would want to do this. I'm not
trying to offend anyone here who uses one. I've just never seen the point.

But now I am curious. Just to get some hopefully helpful information
about this.

I was wondering, how can you find out which Braille displays will work
with the Iphone?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: quck restart IPhone in IOS 10.2

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Thanks for this, will keep amongst my tons of other useful notes on these 
matters.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: quck restart IPhone in IOS 10.2


Hi. I don't think there's a way to bring that back. Besides, that method of 
restarting your phone will eventually corrupt the 
springboard. If you want to do a quick restart, simply hold the power and home 
buttons for 5 seconds on iPhones that aren't the 7 or 
7+ and for the 7 and 7+ hold the power and volume down button for 5 seconds.

Shawn
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> On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:33 PM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> in IOS 10.1 or pior version . we can  restart the IPhone quickly  by pressing 
> the Power button 5 times
> but, inIOS 10.2.
> it change to imergincy  call. and it is not for all contries/ regin
> can we  change it back to restart the phone?
>
> thanks!
>
>
>
> Ming
>
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Re: quck restart IPhone in IOS 10.2

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

That was never a recommended way of rebooting even though it worked,  it 
crashed something and it had to restart to recover.  So 
this is a long overdue bug fix made into a feature.  Press and hold two 
physical buttons for a full reboot now,  though it has 
changed which two since I did it.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
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To: "viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:33 AM
Subject: quck restart IPhone in IOS 10.2


Hi all!
in IOS 10.1 or pior version . we can  restart the IPhone quickly  by pressing 
the Power button 5 times
but, inIOS 10.2.
it change to imergincy  call. and it is not for all contries/ regin
can we  change it back to restart the phone?

thanks!



Ming

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Re: My email address with Uber?

['鍾 智明' via VIPhone]

Maybe you can go to your main menu anthony will have your name and you can see 
it on your account information to you

Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com 於 2016年12月14日 下午3:45 寫道：
> 
> Hi, list.
> 
> How do I know what address I have used with Uber, please?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
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