app that slows down music

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi all.  A little while ago someone mentioned an app that will slow down
music that's on your phone.  Could someone please refresh my memory.  I'd
like to try it.  I thought I'd saved the email, but can't find it now.
Thanks very much.

Paula and Garcon

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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Richard Turner]

First, scanned image PDF documents are generally not great text quality.
Also, there is so much clutter on a computer screen, it would be hard to get 
just the document in focus.
You might try maximizing the window to see if that helps.
But, maybe printing it then using Seeing AI would be better.
The Short Text works fabulously on my Windows 10 screen at home and my Windows 
7 screen at work.
But, I only use it for messages that are popping up.
Not for trying to read a document on the screen.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 25, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Kelby Carlson 
> wrote:

I'll give an example. Let's say I'm trying to view text from a scanned
PDF on my computer. I hold the phone centered on the screen, about a
foot away. All it will read me is the stuff at the top of the screen,
with the menu bars and such.

On 7/25/17, Kelby Carlson 
> wrote:
I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor
needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent
job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and
restarts.

On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel 
> wrote:
I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and
menus

at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone are
you

using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I
used
the short text for updating my computer just last night and this morning
in

fact.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Kelby Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of
days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've
been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried
getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost zero
luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I
get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the window. Certainly
never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. I can't imagine how
people are using this to read fast food restaurant menus as many are
claiming.

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Re: Is there a link to the group where a friend can subscribe

[Richard Turner]

Have them try sending an email to:

viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:21 PM, wui chin Leong  wrote:
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> Is there a link to the group where a friend can subscribe to the list.thanks
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RE: I phone 7 problems

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If that doesn't work you can try to go to Settings > General > Reset and do a 
Reset Network Settings. I know that again this sounds like it has little to do 
with it, but it's surprising how many issues including battery drainage issues 
this can sometimes fix. If you try this it will reboot your phone as part of 
the process and the only two things that get reset are the phone's name and the 
WiFi passworeds. This means that if you named your phone "Gary's iPhone" or 
something like that it would get reset to just "iPhone". You would simply go to 
Settings > General > About and rename it again. Your WiFi password or passwords 
would need to be entered, i.e. you have to reconnect to your WiFi network and 
enter the password when prompted.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I phone 7 problems

We will try that. Thanks. I do wipe the screen with a little wipe with a little 
dampness on it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you cleaned your screen lately? I know this sounds like not a big deal, 
> but the switching to speakerphone and other screen issues could be caused by 
> this and it certainly won't hurt to do it. Just give it a good wipe with a 
> damp cloth (damp, but not dripping) and then wipe it dry.
> There is no need to be super-careful, especially the iPhone 7 is very 
> water-proof, I usually hold my phone upside down just to make sure I am not 
> accidently dripping water into the earpiece opening etc. Otherwise it's just 
> a piece of glass so no special cloth or cleaning stuff is needed.
> 
> Regards,'
> Sieghard
> very w3
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I phone 7 problems
> 
> The screen went down when I was flicking through the weather app. It also 
> acted weird on Safari when looking at a menu for a restaurant. I always close 
> apps. When talking to someone on the phone it just went to speaker. Well, to 
> make it a little clearer the screen locked when I was flicking through the 
> weather app. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gary,
>> 
>> Can you describe what you mean by "my screen was going down"? Please try to 
>> provide some more examples of how the iPhone behaves difdferently after the 
>> update.
>> I have never heard of an iPhone "getting hacked" where somebody has direct 
>> control of your iPhone so I wouldn't worry about that. Maybe something 
>> didn't quite go right with the update. Did you just update or di dyou close 
>> all apps in the app switcher and at least do a reboot of the phone before 
>> installing 10.3.3?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I phone 7 problems
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I guess I am a worrier, but we have the i phone 7 and since the update weird 
>> things have been going on. How would you know if your phone had been hacked? 
>>  I know they were talking about the update was a security update, and there 
>> were ways of people getting in to i phones. I have had to reboot the phone 
>> twice today because of it not acting right in certain apps. Please shed some 
>> light on this if you can. My screen was going down when I was in an app 
>> doing something and that has never happened. 
>> Thanks for your thoughts on this craziness. 
>> Nancy Williams
>> 
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Re: I phone 7 problems

[GARY WILLIAMS]

We will try that. Thanks. I do wipe the screen with a little wipe with a little 
dampness on it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you cleaned your screen lately? I know this sounds like not a big deal, 
> but the switching to speakerphone and other screen issues could be caused by 
> this and it certainly won't hurt to do it. Just give it a good wipe with a 
> damp cloth (damp, but not dripping) and then wipe it dry.
> There is no need to be super-careful, especially the iPhone 7 is very 
> water-proof, I usually hold my phone upside down just to make sure I am not 
> accidently dripping water into the earpiece opening etc. Otherwise it's just 
> a piece of glass so no special cloth or cleaning stuff is needed.
> 
> Regards,'
> Sieghard
> very w3
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I phone 7 problems
> 
> The screen went down when I was flicking through the weather app. It also 
> acted weird on Safari when looking at a menu for a restaurant. I always close 
> apps. When talking to someone on the phone it just went to speaker. Well, to 
> make it a little clearer the screen locked when I was flicking through the 
> weather app. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gary,
>> 
>> Can you describe what you mean by "my screen was going down"? Please try to 
>> provide some more examples of how the iPhone behaves difdferently after the 
>> update.
>> I have never heard of an iPhone "getting hacked" where somebody has direct 
>> control of your iPhone so I wouldn't worry about that. Maybe something 
>> didn't quite go right with the update. Did you just update or di dyou close 
>> all apps in the app switcher and at least do a reboot of the phone before 
>> installing 10.3.3?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I phone 7 problems
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I guess I am a worrier, but we have the i phone 7 and since the update weird 
>> things have been going on. How would you know if your phone had been hacked? 
>>  I know they were talking about the update was a security update, and there 
>> were ways of people getting in to i phones. I have had to reboot the phone 
>> twice today because of it not acting right in certain apps. Please shed some 
>> light on this if you can. My screen was going down when I was in an app 
>> doing something and that has never happened. 
>> Thanks for your thoughts on this craziness. 
>> Nancy Williams
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: I phone 7 problems

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you cleaned your screen lately? I know this sounds like not a big deal, 
but the switching to speakerphone and other screen issues could be caused by 
this and it certainly won't hurt to do it. Just give it a good wipe with a damp 
cloth (damp, but not dripping) and then wipe it dry.
There is no need to be super-careful, especially the iPhone 7 is very 
water-proof, I usually hold my phone upside down just to make sure I am not 
accidently dripping water into the earpiece opening etc. Otherwise it's just a 
piece of glass so no special cloth or cleaning stuff is needed.

Regards,'
Sieghard
very w3
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I phone 7 problems

The screen went down when I was flicking through the weather app. It also acted 
weird on Safari when looking at a menu for a restaurant. I always close apps. 
When talking to someone on the phone it just went to speaker. Well, to make it 
a little clearer the screen locked when I was flicking through the weather app. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> Can you describe what you mean by "my screen was going down"? Please try to 
> provide some more examples of how the iPhone behaves difdferently after the 
> update.
> I have never heard of an iPhone "getting hacked" where somebody has direct 
> control of your iPhone so I wouldn't worry about that. Maybe something didn't 
> quite go right with the update. Did you just update or di dyou close all apps 
> in the app switcher and at least do a reboot of the phone before installing 
> 10.3.3?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I phone 7 problems
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I guess I am a worrier, but we have the i phone 7 and since the update weird 
> things have been going on. How would you know if your phone had been hacked?  
> I know they were talking about the update was a security update, and there 
> were ways of people getting in to i phones. I have had to reboot the phone 
> twice today because of it not acting right in certain apps. Please shed some 
> light on this if you can. My screen was going down when I was in an app doing 
> something and that has never happened. 
> Thanks for your thoughts on this craziness. 
> Nancy Williams
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Lelia Struve]

Hi there, one thing I've noticed with the short text channel as well as the 
product channel, is when you are reading for a while, it tends to stop. And you 
have to go back out of the app and open it again to be able to read more. Does 
anybody have that issue?

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I'll try it on our washing machine and dryer tonight.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Seeing AI Short Text Function
> 
> I can't seem to get the short text channel to read any LED displays.  On my 
> stove, for example, it will read the labels of the buttons, but I can't get 
> it to read the display.  
> 
> Is anyone having any luck with reading LED displays?
> 
> Pam
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Dave 
> Mitchel  [dbmitc...@centurylink.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function
> 
> I had a little trouble with the text starting over but just muddled through.
> I figure it might be the monitor doing something to make it do that.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function
> 
> I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor needs to 
> be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent job of holding 
> the camera still but the text always stops and restarts.
> 
>> On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
>> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and 
>> menus
>> 
>> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone 
>> are you
>> 
>> using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I 
>> used the short text for updating my computer just last night and this 
>> morning in
>> 
>> fact.
>> Dave
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kelby Carlson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>> 
>> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of 
>> days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've 
>> been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried 
>> getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost zero 
>> luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I 
>> get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the window. Certainly 
>> never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. I can't imagine how 
>> people are using this to read fast food restaurant menus as many are 
>> claiming.
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RE: EchoBee Thermostat

[Mike Ulrich]

I know what you mean, I have an older non wireless talking thermostat that's 
supposedly programmable. But even with the supplied video, they don't mention 
the names of a couple of buttons and do the "Hit this button" thing and that 
ain't too cool for the blind.
So I just readjust the temp in the morning, then at night.

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Subject: Re: EchoBee Thermostat

Hello yes it is, but I will have to say that I had trouble programming the 
schedules with voiceover in the app. So I just want to ahead and said that if I 
need to temperature change I'll just go into the app and change it.
> On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> Joseph, is this thermostat of the programmable variety?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 6:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: EchoBee Thermostat
> 
> Hello Yolanda, I'm not using that exact thermostat. But I am using another 
> one from Emberson technologies. It is called Cincy. The thermostat is 
> purchasable from your local Home Depot store. And the app is a free download 
> in the App Store. The app is mostly accessible, the only thing is, you may 
> need sided assistance on setting up the thermostat at first. Such as 
> connecting it to the Internet, and connecting it to the cincy thermostat app. 
> But it is definitely well worth the purchase. I purchased mine for $130. Let 
> me know if I can help you.
>   Joseph Hudson
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>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 6:07 AM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> We are wanting to purchase the EchoBee thermostat with sensors.  I 
>> have tried the app with VO, and while I can see the different 
>> buttons, if I want to change percentage or temp, I do not see a ticker 
>> pop-up.
>> Is anyone using this thermostat successfully with VO?
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Re: EchoBee Thermostat

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello yes it is, but I will have to say that I had trouble programming the 
schedules with voiceover in the app. So I just want to ahead and said that if I 
need to temperature change I'll just go into the app and change it.
> On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> Joseph, is this thermostat of the programmable variety?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 6:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: EchoBee Thermostat
> 
> Hello Yolanda, I'm not using that exact thermostat. But I am using another 
> one from Emberson technologies. It is called Cincy. The thermostat is 
> purchasable from your local Home Depot store. And the app is a free download 
> in the App Store. The app is mostly accessible, the only thing is, you may 
> need sided assistance on setting up the thermostat at first. Such as 
> connecting it to the Internet, and connecting it to the cincy thermostat app. 
> But it is definitely well worth the purchase. I purchased mine for $130. Let 
> me know if I can help you.
>   Joseph Hudson 
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>> 
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>> have tried the app with VO, and while I can see the different buttons, 
>> if I want to change percentage or temp, I do not see a ticker pop-up.  
>> Is anyone using this thermostat successfully with VO?
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RE: EchoBee Thermostat

[Mike Ulrich]

Joseph, is this thermostat of the programmable variety?

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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: EchoBee Thermostat

Hello Yolanda, I'm not using that exact thermostat. But I am using another one 
from Emberson technologies. It is called Cincy. The thermostat is purchasable 
from your local Home Depot store. And the app is a free download in the App 
Store. The app is mostly accessible, the only thing is, you may need sided 
assistance on setting up the thermostat at first. Such as connecting it to the 
Internet, and connecting it to the cincy thermostat app. But it is definitely 
well worth the purchase. I purchased mine for $130. Let me know if I can help 
you.
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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 6:07 AM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> We are wanting to purchase the EchoBee thermostat with sensors.  I 
> have tried the app with VO, and while I can see the different buttons, 
> if I want to change percentage or temp, I do not see a ticker pop-up.  
> Is anyone using this thermostat successfully with VO?
> 
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Re: EchoBee Thermostat

[Joseph Hudson]

No, I don't think so. However, you can see that humidity inside your house. As 
well as the temp. As for what the low and high's are supposed to be.
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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Does the thermostat you mention support Homekit/SIRI?
> The nice thing with EchoBee is that it does support Homekit/SIRI and also 
> that you can get a variety of sensors which hcan be installed in different 
> rooms tro monitor temperature/humidity etc.
> If I didn't already have the connected thermostats from 
> www.RadioThermostat.com I would seriously consider EchoBee as well.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: EchoBee Thermostat
> 
> Hello Yolanda, I'm not using that exact thermostat. But I am using another 
> one from Emberson technologies. It is called Cincy. The thermostat is 
> purchasable from your local Home Depot store. And the app is a free download 
> in the App Store. The app is mostly accessible, the only thing is, you may 
> need sided assistance on setting up the thermostat at first. Such as 
> connecting it to the Internet, and connecting it to the cincy thermostat app. 
> But it is definitely well worth the purchase. I purchased mine for $130. Let 
> me know if I can help you.
>   Joseph Hudson 
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>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 6:07 AM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> We are wanting to purchase the EchoBee thermostat with sensors.  I 
>> have tried the app with VO, and while I can see the different buttons, 
>> if I want to change percentage or temp, I do not see a ticker pop-up.  
>> Is anyone using this thermostat successfully with VO?
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RE: EchoBee Thermostat

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Does the thermostat you mention support Homekit/SIRI?
The nice thing with EchoBee is that it does support Homekit/SIRI and also that 
you can get a variety of sensors which hcan be installed in different rooms tro 
monitor temperature/humidity etc.
If I didn't already have the connected thermostats from www.RadioThermostat.com 
I would seriously consider EchoBee as well.

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Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: EchoBee Thermostat

Hello Yolanda, I'm not using that exact thermostat. But I am using another one 
from Emberson technologies. It is called Cincy. The thermostat is purchasable 
from your local Home Depot store. And the app is a free download in the App 
Store. The app is mostly accessible, the only thing is, you may need sided 
assistance on setting up the thermostat at first. Such as connecting it to the 
Internet, and connecting it to the cincy thermostat app. But it is definitely 
well worth the purchase. I purchased mine for $130. Let me know if I can help 
you.
Joseph Hudson 

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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 6:07 AM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> We are wanting to purchase the EchoBee thermostat with sensors.  I 
> have tried the app with VO, and while I can see the different buttons, 
> if I want to change percentage or temp, I do not see a ticker pop-up.  
> Is anyone using this thermostat successfully with VO?
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Re: EchoBee Thermostat

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello Yolanda, I'm not using that exact thermostat. But I am using another one 
from Emberson technologies. It is called Cincy. The thermostat is purchasable 
from your local Home Depot store. And the app is a free download in the App 
Store. The app is mostly accessible, the only thing is, you may need sided 
assistance on setting up the thermostat at first. Such as connecting it to the 
Internet, and connecting it to the cincy thermostat app. But it is definitely 
well worth the purchase. I purchased mine for $130. Let me know if I can help 
you.
Joseph Hudson 

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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 6:07 AM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> We are wanting to purchase the EchoBee thermostat with sensors.  I have
> tried the app with VO, and while I can see the different buttons, if I want
> to change percentage or temp, I do not see a ticker pop-up.  Is anyone using
> this thermostat successfully with VO?
> 
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RE: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I'll try it on our washing machine and dryer tonight.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I can't seem to get the short text channel to read any LED displays.  On my 
stove, for example, it will read the labels of the buttons, but I can't get it 
to read the display.  

Is anyone having any luck with reading LED displays?

Pam

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Dave 
Mitchel  [dbmitc...@centurylink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I had a little trouble with the text starting over but just muddled through.
I figure it might be the monitor doing something to make it do that.

-Original Message-
From: Kelby Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor needs to 
be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent job of holding the 
camera still but the text always stops and restarts.

On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and 
> menus
>
> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone 
> are you
>
> using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I 
> used the short text for updating my computer just last night and this 
> morning in
>
> fact.
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>
> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of 
> days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've 
> been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried 
> getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost zero 
> luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I 
> get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the window. Certainly 
> never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. I can't imagine how 
> people are using this to read fast food restaurant menus as many are 
> claiming.
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RE: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you have a sighted family member or friend around I'd suggest you ask them 
to check it out and get them to help you.
It can be very helpful to get feedback from somebody who can see what you do 
and see the screen as you do it when it comes to using the camera.
You mentioned you haven't been too successful with KNFB Reader either which 
means you may just not hold the camera straight, if I put a piece of paper on a 
flat surface and it is good quality print the result I get with KNFB Reader 
free hand is usually just as good as if I use a flatbed scanner with something 
like Openbook and I know many other list members get similarly good results.
I also used Seeing AI short text this morning when I brushed against a 
cardboard sign which somebody had put up on a lamp post at about head height 
and which was overhanging the sidewalk.
I stood about 5 feet in front of it and point my camera at it and the app 
immediately read out "Detour" and something about "RV's using Riverside 
Campground".
For me that was enough to know that this was obviously an official sign put up 
by the town so I called the town office, asked them to put me through to their 
work yard office where they are responsible for stuff like this and told the 
lady they were lucky this wasn't a metal sign or I may have had a nice scratch 
on the side of my head. She assured me that she would get somebody there to put 
it a foot or two higher right away so it would be well above head height.
It's a very useful app to sayt the least and I look forward to future 
improvements. One can hope that since Microsoft is doing this they won't just 
give up on it like so many other developers have done with apps which started 
out so promising. It certainly wouldn't be for a lack of funds, server space or 
whatever.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I am holding the camera as still as I possibly can and it still isn't working. 
My hand isn't moving at all.

On 7/25/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> What you describe about the app starting to read text over and over 
> sounds like you are moving the phone/camera.
> I am getting very good results as well, this morning I received my 
> neww government guide dog Id card in the mail and I pointed the phone 
> at the letter that came with it using the short text function and it 
> read it out flawlessly.
> I just tried it again pointing my iPhone 6S Plus towards my 24 inch 
> LCD screen from about a foot away with Outlook and this email open and 
> it read a bunch of the menus and things on the screen and then most of 
> what I just wrote here.
> Also just tried it by holding it over my Apple Watch where it read me 
> the date, time and the current temperature which are some of the 
> complications I have on this watch face. Only mistake was that it said 
> "230 Fair" instead of
> "23 degrees Fair", so it recognized the degree symbol as a zero.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>
> I'll give an example. Let's say I'm trying to view text from a scanned 
> PDF on my computer. I hold the phone centered on the screen, about a foot 
> away.
> All it will read me is the stuff at the top of the screen, with the 
> menu bars and such.
>
> On 7/25/17, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>> I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor 
>> needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent 
>> job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and 
>> restarts.
>>
>> On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
>>> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor 
>>> and menus
>>>
>>> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone 
>>> are you
>>>
>>> using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. 
>>> I used the short text for updating my computer just last night and 
>>> this morning in
>>>
>>> fact.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kelby Carlson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>>>
>>> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of 
>>> days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've 
>>> been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried 
>>> getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost 
>>> zero luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the 
>>> screen, I get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the 
>>> window. Certainly never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. 

Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Kelby Carlson]

I am holding the camera as still as I possibly can and it still isn't
working. My hand isn't moving at all.

On 7/25/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> What you describe about the app starting to read text over and over sounds
> like you are moving the phone/camera.
> I am getting very good results as well, this morning I received my neww
> government guide dog Id card in the mail and I pointed the phone at the
> letter that came with it using the short text function and it read it out
> flawlessly.
> I just tried it again pointing my iPhone 6S Plus towards my 24 inch LCD
> screen from about a foot away with Outlook and this email open and it read a
> bunch of the menus and things on the screen and then most of what I just
> wrote here.
> Also just tried it by holding it over my Apple Watch where it read me the
> date, time and the current temperature which are some of the complications I
> have on this watch face. Only mistake was that it said "230 Fair" instead of
> "23 degrees Fair", so it recognized the degree symbol as a zero.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>
> I'll give an example. Let's say I'm trying to view text from a scanned PDF
> on my computer. I hold the phone centered on the screen, about a foot away.
> All it will read me is the stuff at the top of the screen, with the menu
> bars and such.
>
> On 7/25/17, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>> I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor
>> needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent
>> job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and
>> restarts.
>>
>> On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
>>> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and
>>> menus
>>>
>>> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone
>>> are you
>>>
>>> using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I
>>> used the short text for updating my computer just last night and this
>>> morning in
>>>
>>> fact.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kelby Carlson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>>>
>>> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of
>>> days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've
>>> been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried
>>> getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost
>>> zero luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the
>>> screen, I get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the
>>> window. Certainly never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. I
>>> can't imagine how people are using this to read fast food restaurant
>>> menus as many are claiming.
>>>
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Re: I phone 7 problems

[GARY WILLIAMS]

The screen went down when I was flicking through the weather app. It also acted 
weird on Safari when looking at a menu for a restaurant. I always close apps. 
When talking to someone on the phone it just went to speaker. Well, to make it 
a little clearer the screen locked when I was flicking through the weather app. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> Can you describe what you mean by "my screen was going down"? Please try to 
> provide some more examples of how the iPhone behaves difdferently after the 
> update.
> I have never heard of an iPhone "getting hacked" where somebody has direct 
> control of your iPhone so I wouldn't worry about that. Maybe something didn't 
> quite go right with the update. Did you just update or di dyou close all apps 
> in the app switcher and at least do a reboot of the phone before installing 
> 10.3.3?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I phone 7 problems
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I guess I am a worrier, but we have the i phone 7 and since the update weird 
> things have been going on. How would you know if your phone had been hacked?  
> I know they were talking about the update was a security update, and there 
> were ways of people getting in to i phones. I have had to reboot the phone 
> twice today because of it not acting right in certain apps. Please shed some 
> light on this if you can. My screen was going down when I was in an app doing 
> something and that has never happened. 
> Thanks for your thoughts on this craziness. 
> Nancy Williams
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What you describe about the app starting to read text over and over sounds like 
you are moving the phone/camera.
I am getting very good results as well, this morning I received my neww 
government guide dog Id card in the mail and I pointed the phone at the letter 
that came with it using the short text function and it read it out flawlessly.
I just tried it again pointing my iPhone 6S Plus towards my 24 inch LCD screen 
from about a foot away with Outlook and this email open and it read a bunch of 
the menus and things on the screen and then most of what I just wrote here.
Also just tried it by holding it over my Apple Watch where it read me the date, 
time and the current temperature which are some of the complications I have on 
this watch face. Only mistake was that it said "230 Fair" instead of "23 
degrees Fair", so it recognized the degree symbol as a zero.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I'll give an example. Let's say I'm trying to view text from a scanned PDF on 
my computer. I hold the phone centered on the screen, about a foot away. All it 
will read me is the stuff at the top of the screen, with the menu bars and such.

On 7/25/17, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor 
> needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent 
> job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and 
> restarts.
>
> On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
>> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and 
>> menus
>>
>> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone 
>> are you
>>
>> using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I 
>> used the short text for updating my computer just last night and this 
>> morning in
>>
>> fact.
>> Dave
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kelby Carlson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>>
>> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of 
>> days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've 
>> been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried 
>> getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost 
>> zero luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the 
>> screen, I get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the 
>> window. Certainly never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. I 
>> can't imagine how people are using this to read fast food restaurant 
>> menus as many are claiming.
>>
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RE: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

I can't seem to get the short text channel to read any LED displays.  On my 
stove, for example, it will read the labels of the buttons, but I can't get it 
to read the display.  

Is anyone having any luck with reading LED displays?

Pam

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Dave 
Mitchel  [dbmitc...@centurylink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I had a little trouble with the text starting over but just muddled through.
I figure it might be the monitor doing something to make it do that.

-Original Message-
From: Kelby Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor
needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent
job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and
restarts.

On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and
> menus
>
> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone are
> you
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> the short text for updating my computer just last night and this morning
> in
>
> fact.
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
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RE: I phone 7 problems

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gary,

Can you describe what you mean by "my screen was going down"? Please try to 
provide some more examples of how the iPhone behaves difdferently after the 
update.
I have never heard of an iPhone "getting hacked" where somebody has direct 
control of your iPhone so I wouldn't worry about that. Maybe something didn't 
quite go right with the update. Did you just update or di dyou close all apps 
in the app switcher and at least do a reboot of the phone before installing 
10.3.3?

Regards,
Sieghard

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GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I phone 7 problems

Hi everyone,
I guess I am a worrier, but we have the i phone 7 and since the update weird 
things have been going on. How would you know if your phone had been hacked?  I 
know they were talking about the update was a security update, and there were 
ways of people getting in to i phones. I have had to reboot the phone twice 
today because of it not acting right in certain apps. Please shed some light on 
this if you can. My screen was going down when I was in an app doing something 
and that has never happened. 
Thanks for your thoughts on this craziness. 
Nancy Williams

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RE: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Mike Ulrich]

Well I know the IPhone camera, when running through the Seeing AI's Short 
Channel is a bit sensitive. Actually quite sensitive indeed. One must really 
hold the camera steady. I let it pick up on the verbiage, then instantly as it 
starts reading, flick the camera lens away so its  not aiming at any other 
readable verbiage.
Doing it this way; it'll read quite a bit, before you have to refocus it.

I'm getting more and more used to all the channels on this in creditable app! A 
big time thumbs up for sure Mr. Microsoft!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Mitchel 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I had a little trouble with the text starting over but just muddled through. 
I figure it might be the monitor doing something to make it do that.

-Original Message-
From: Kelby Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor needs to 
be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent job of holding the 
camera still but the text always stops and restarts.

On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and 
> menus
>
> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone 
> are you
>
> using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I 
> used the short text for updating my computer just last night and this 
> morning in
>
> fact.
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>
> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of 
> days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've 
> been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried 
> getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost zero 
> luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I 
> get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the window. Certainly 
> never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. I can't imagine how 
> people are using this to read fast food restaurant menus as many are 
> claiming.
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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Dave Mitchel]

I had a little trouble with the text starting over but just muddled through. 
I figure it might be the monitor doing something to make it do that.


-Original Message- 
From: Kelby Carlson

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor
needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent
job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and
restarts.

On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and 
menus


at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone are 
you


using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I used
the short text for updating my computer just last night and this morning 
in


fact.
Dave

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From: Kelby Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function

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days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've
been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried
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luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I
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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Kelby Carlson]

I'll give an example. Let's say I'm trying to view text from a scanned
PDF on my computer. I hold the phone centered on the screen, about a
foot away. All it will read me is the stuff at the top of the screen,
with the menu bars and such.

On 7/25/17, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor
> needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent
> job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and
> restarts.
>
> On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
>> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and
>> menus
>>
>> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone are
>> you
>>
>> using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I
>> used
>> the short text for updating my computer just last night and this morning
>> in
>>
>> fact.
>> Dave
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kelby Carlson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>>
>> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of
>> days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've
>> been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried
>> getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost zero
>> luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I
>> get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the window. Certainly
>> never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. I can't imagine how
>> people are using this to read fast food restaurant menus as many are
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Re: Look Tel Apps

[Julie Dawson]

This is one of the apps which will not function with IOS11 and VIA seems not as 
well. I was advised by a dear friend to look under About under applications. I 
will be so saddened because VIA is such a valuable resource with groupings and 
so much work put into it. I hope the developers put some work into updating it 
to work with 64bit components so that we do not lose it and other apps. 
Live  simply,
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where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
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  Sent: July 25, 2017 10:12 AM
  Subject: Look Tel Apps


  Hi!

  Since someone on this list is in the Look Tel development team I'd like to 
know will there be some update for the Look Tel Recognizer regarding upcoming 
iOS 11 release? I got the notification this app will work no more after 
installing iOS 11 since it is not 64-bit compliant. I love this app, I use it 
on the daily basis and it would be a wonderful thing if the developers update 
it.

  P.S. There is my another post regarding Gree AC and there's still no answers 
so if anybody know something about Gree devices please let me know.

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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Kelby Carlson]

I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor
needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent
job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and
restarts.

On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
> I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and menus
>
> at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone are you
>
> using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I used
> the short text for updating my computer just last night and this morning in
>
> fact.
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function
>
> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of
> days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've
> been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried
> getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost zero
> luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I
> get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the window. Certainly
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Look Tel Apps

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Since someone on this list is in the Look Tel development team
  I'd like to know will there be some update for the Look Tel
  Recognizer regarding upcoming iOS 11 release? I got the
  notification this app will work no more after installing iOS 11
  since it is not 64-bit compliant. I love this app, I use it on the
  daily basis and it would be a wonderful thing if the developers
  update it.
P.S. There is my another post regarding Gree AC and there's still
  no answers so if anybody know something about Gree devices please
  let me know.
Take care!


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I phone 7 problems

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Hi everyone,
I guess I am a worrier, but we have the i phone 7 and since the update weird 
things have been going on. How would you know if your phone had been hacked?  I 
know they were talking about the update was a security update, and there were 
ways of people getting in to i phones. I have had to reboot the phone twice 
today because of it not acting right in certain apps. Please shed some light on 
this if you can. My screen was going down when I was in an app doing something 
and that has never happened. 
Thanks for your thoughts on this craziness. 
Nancy Williams

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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Dave Mitchel]

I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and menus 
at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone are you 
using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I used 
the short text for updating my computer just last night and this morning in 
fact.

Dave

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of
days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've
been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried
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luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I
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people are using this to read fast food restaurant menus as many are
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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[kelbycarlson]

I've also been reading the prior threads on this, for example on the 
product channel. I've been pretty unimpressed with that too. It's only 
managed to recognize one or two products. Mostly it doesn't even beep, even 
if I center it and hold the phone about twelve inches from the camera. But, 
then again, perhaps I'm just terrible with the camera. I've never had much 
luck scanning documents with KNFB reader either.

On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-4, Michael D. Ulrich wrote:
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> I've been having problems to 
>
> Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone! 
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> > On Jul 25, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Kelby Carlson  > wrote: 
> > 
> > I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of 
> > days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've 
> > been trying the short text function. At least when I have tried 
> > getting it to read the text on my computer screen I've had almost zero 
> > luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I 
> > get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the window. Certainly 
> > never the main text of, say, a newspaper article. I can't imagine how 
> > people are using this to read fast food restaurant menus as many are 
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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

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I've been having problems to

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!


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> I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of
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> luck. No matter how close or far I put the camera from the screen, I
> get mostly gibberish and at best just the top of the window. Certainly
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Fleksy Keyboard is finally updated

[Chuck Dean]

Hi everyone,
I saw this in Mac Rumors this morning"

"Fleksy Keyboard Development Taken Over by Developer Thingthing as iOS App 
Improvements Planned - 
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/07/25/fleksy-keyboard-development-thingthing/; 
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Re: Using a braille display to write braille on an iPhone

[Paul Richard McGann]

karen,

with my sad face, I have acknowledged as I have been told that there are 
many issues with humanware braille displays as humanware has not solved with 
apple at all.


somehow, according to voiceover, there are two different options of braille 
yo like as yo stay with standard grade two or newly unified english braille. 
yo can choose. I keep with standard grade two and also I have both braille 
input and brialle output. don't forget eight-dot and six-dot option. I am 
using varioultra 20 and refreshabrialel 18. both are dong very well. hope 
thisgive yo some idea. wink!


sincerely,
rich


-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: Using a braille display to write braille on an iPhone

Hi Mary,   I believe that between Humanware is still having issues with it. 
I do not have any issues with the braille input.  I do not use Humanware.  I 
use the Focus 40 Blue works fine with it as no issues.  Hope this help you. 
Cheers,  Scott Dollar


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I know that in the past, there have been fairly serious issues regarding 
the writing of braille on an iPhone when you use a braille display. I 
haven't really kept up with this, but now, I am interested to know if 
braille input is more reliable, or if displays, such as the humanware, 
still lock up, or if there are issues with grade two and words coming out 
strangely. Did they fix that?

Mary

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Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Kelby Carlson]

I've been playing around with my Seeing AI app the past couple of
days. Since I don't have many print documents around the house, I've
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RE: fat bug in latest fb update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I also don’t experience this at all, just opened Facebook to try this, double 
tapped on the “More” tab, then on my name and then I double tapped on “Edit 
Profile” and the edit profile screen opened.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:35 AM
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Subject: Re: fat bug in latest fb update

Didn't have this problem with Facebook with the most recent Facebook update.

Donna

On Jul 25, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Davy Cuppens 
> wrote:
Hi folks

Do the following: supposing you want to edit your profile.
Tab the more button and click on your name button to open your own profile: the 
iphone will open the appstore and prompt you to install instagram; this is a 
tramendous bug!
Regards
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Re: Using a braille display to write braille on an iPhone

[dollar031]

Hi Mary,   I believe that between Humanware is still having issues with it.  I 
do not have any issues with the braille input.  I do not use Humanware.  I use 
the Focus 40 Blue works fine with it as no issues.  Hope this help you.  
Cheers,  Scott Dollar 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
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> really kept up with this, but now, I am interested to know if braille input 
> is more reliable, or if displays, such as the humanware, still lock up, or if 
> there are issues with grade two and words coming out strangely. Did they fix 
> that?
> Mary
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Re: fat bug in latest fb update

[Donna]

Didn't have this problem with Facebook with the most recent Facebook update. 

Donna

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> Tab the more button and click on your name button to open your own profile: 
> the iphone will open the appstore and prompt you to install instagram; this 
> is a tramendous bug!
> Regards
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Re: Using a braille display to write braille on an iPhone

[Flor Lynch]

Hi Mary,
You would get a variety of different opinions from people who care to 
respond. Most Bluetooth-capable braille displays have very few or no issues 
inputting to an iPhone. For any Grade 2 Braille issues remaining: Eight-dot 
Braille, I find, is the most reliable means of inputting what you want; and 
it isn't difficult to learn. (You can always revert to six-dot or Grade 2 
Braille when you need to, for certain symbols which you are unsure of.) Some 
displays can't give you eight-dot Braille, though. I use either a Focus14 
Blue, or a Focus40 Blue.


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Subject: Using a braille display to write braille on an iPhone

I know that in the past, there have been fairly serious issues regarding the 
writing of braille on an iPhone when you use a braille display. I haven't 
really kept up with this, but now, I am interested to know if braille input 
is more reliable, or if displays, such as the humanware, still lock up, or 
if there are issues with grade two and words coming out strangely. Did they 
fix that?

Mary

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Using a braille display to write braille on an iPhone

[Mary Otten]

I know that in the past, there have been fairly serious issues regarding the 
writing of braille on an iPhone when you use a braille display. I haven't 
really kept up with this, but now, I am interested to know if braille input is 
more reliable, or if displays, such as the humanware, still lock up, or if 
there are issues with grade two and words coming out strangely. Did they fix 
that?
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Re: fat bug in latest fb update

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Davy.
I actually just had to do this earlier this morning and it worked fine for me.
Jen


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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
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> the iphone will open the appstore and prompt you to install instagram; this 
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> Regards
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fat bug in latest fb update

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

Do the following: supposing you want to edit your profile. 
Tab the more button and click on your name button to open your own profile: the 
iphone will open the appstore and prompt you to install instagram; this is a 
tramendous bug!
Regards
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EchoBee Thermostat

[Yolanda Thompson]

We are wanting to purchase the EchoBee thermostat with sensors.  I have
tried the app with VO, and while I can see the different buttons, if I want
to change percentage or temp, I do not see a ticker pop-up.  Is anyone using
this thermostat successfully with VO?


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