RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

$79 is a pretty good price for this, but as with other offerings this music 
Unlimited service is not yet available in Canada.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

Sieghard,

Yes, the Amazon unlimited music cost of $79 annually is in addition to what you 
pay for prime membership. If you're not a prime member, the cost is more but I 
don't know the amount. I was already paying $4 a month to have unlimited music 
on one Echo so I decided in my case, it was worth the extra $31 annually to 
have unlimited music on all my echoes.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

So is that unlimited music an extra $79 in addition to Amazon Prime?
Yes, Alexa has many skills, but as I said before, I find their use to me is 
limited since half the time I forget the correct word or phrase I have to use 
for skills I may not use often.
I am sure being in Canada has something to do with it, Alexa officially has 
only been available here since the beginning of December and we don't even 
have, for example, family sharing or what Amazon calls this where I could, for 
example connect my wife's account to mine.
I was also wondering why Alexa always said she couldn't yet play my Audible 
books. I now found out that my Audible membership which I have had for more 
than 10 years is a US membership since there was no Audible Canada until last 
October. For some reason Alexa here in Canada can only play books I purchase 
from Audible.ca. I could ask Audible to transfer my US account over and 
apparently I would get to keep all my books and any existing credits on my 
account would also transfer, but so far I have hesitated because just as Amazon 
it seems that Audible offers here are still more limited compared to the US. 
For example, currently Audible.ca only offers one monthly subscription for 1 
credit, there is not yet an option for the 2 credit a month subscription or 
even to purchase 12 or 24 credits all at once. The price does make Audible.ca 
attractive since a 1 credit membership costs the same $14.95 as in the US 
except it is $14.95 Canadian and with the Canadian Dollar being pretty weak 
right now that of course I s better than $14.95 US which works out to about 30 
to 32% more. In fact, my Platinum membership from the US which is $22.95 
currently is about $30 give or take a Dollar so even though I get two credits 
for that at a reduced cost per credit, after the exchange I pay the same as I 
would for 2 credits here except I can't yet buy two credits a month. They just 
started offering the daily deal here in Canada, but none of the other 
promotions which often are offered in the States like buy 2 books for 1 credit 
or 3 books for 2 credits or buy any number of books from a preselected list 
where all books on the list are $4.95 are offered yet here. 
Anyhow, I might just purchase 24 credits with my US membership and then 
transfer my account, this way these credits come to my Canadian account and 
then I can continue with just the 1 credit subscription and hopefully in the 
next year or so they will expand what they offer here.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Sieghard, 
That's curious and I'm sorry if I led you astray. Alexa played the latest 
AppleVis podcast for me just now when I asked as I posted and also when I 
tested it before posting. I wonder if your being in Canada affects your 
results? 

I will say that I've noticed that Alexa seems to be progressing at a fairly 
accelerated rate so I'm enjoying all she can do and look forward to the 
continued improvements. 

I'll wish the skills available to Canada will catch up and things like 
unlimited music will also become available there. I agree that you really only 
need one unlimited music service and I understand why you chose Apple Music but 
in my case, I really enjoy listening to music on my Echoes and getting 
unlimited music from Amazon for $79 annually as an Amazon prime member was just 
too good to pass up. 

Alan 

Selnt from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Interestingly enough Alexa is very stubborn when it comes to playing 
> Podcasts. I just asked her exactly what you said "Alexa, play Applevis 
> Podcast" and she replied "Here is a playlist you might like..." and she went 
> on to playing some music. I then said "Alexa, play Podcast Applevis" and she 
> said "I can't find a program called Applevis".
> When I ask her "Alexa, play Windows Weekly podcast" she plays 

RE: Use my phone, or purchase an iPod?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I agree with Andy, just get an external battery, you can get one which charges 
your SE more than you could want for $40 or $50.
Anyhow, the most current iPod Touch is the sixth generation which Apple 
released on July 15, 2015 which means in a few month it is 3 years old. Prior 
to that the fifth generation iPod Touch was released along with the iPhone 5 on 
September 12, 2012.
You can see the pattern, after the iPod Touch Fifth gen it tool Apple almost 3 
years to release an updated sixth generation iPod Touch and that is now again 
just about 3 years ago with no rumours I have heard that there will be a new 
one. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple quietly dropped the iPhone Touch entirely 
just as it dropped the iPod Nano not that long ago.
In any case, buying one now is probably a very poor investment, either they'll 
release a new one this fall or it goes away and in either case you wouldn't 
want to buy something that is so out of date.
I remember you had an iPad at one point as well and ended up getting rid of it. 
I think. You also mentioned before that you are on a budget which is why you 
don't buy a newer iPhone such as an iPhone 7 or 8 with say 256 Gb of storage, 
but if you now buy an iPod Touch and you add that cost to your iPhone SE you 
could have probably bought a larger capacity iPhone.
I would strongly advise against spending a few more hundred Dollars for an item 
which most likely you end up selling again for a loss down the road, as Andy 
said, if battery is a concern then spend $50 or whatever for an external 
battery or invest a bit more in the Apple battery case or one from Mophie. If 
you do end up charging your battery a lot and it comes to where the battery 
isn't that goo dany more you can get it replaced for $40 or $50 from any number 
of third-party repair shops and all of these options are in my opinion better 
than spending much more for two devices and trying to maintain them.

Regards,
Sieghard 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use my phone, or purchase an iPod?

If battery life is the concern why not take the money that you would spend on 
the iPod and buy an external battery or something like the Mophie juicepack, 
which is a case with a built in external battery. Or you can take that money 
and upgrade to an iPhone with more storage, or the 7 or 8 plus which have 
larger batteries. Personally, I like having as few devices as possible, but 
it's a personal decision.  Some folks opt for a cheap flip phone for making and 
taking calls, and either an iPhone or iPod Touch for the other stuff, as the 
phone is probably the worst thing about an iPhone.

Andy
- Original Message -
From: "Terri Stimmel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:51 PM
Subject: Use my phone, or purchase an iPod?


> Hello once more everyone,
>
>
> I always try to think things out and make good decisions. That's
> important to me. So lately I have been wondering if I should purchase an
> iPod, or not. I know some people use their phone for everything. If you
> can do that and like doing that, then that's awesome!
>
>
> However, my current phone is an SE, and has 32 gigs of space. I do play
> Apple music from my phone, as well as some games. I also make a lot of
> calls pretty regularly, as well as texting. Sometimes there are days
> where I run my battery down quicker than other days.
>
>
> Honestly, I would like to have an iPod for mostly listening to music,
> reading, playing games on it, and possibly a few other things. I want to
> have my phone for calling and texting, and some other Apps I don't
> always want to have to worry about my phone's battery. Especially if I
> am out somewhere.
>
>
> I had an iPod many years ago, and I liked it. I purchased it used.
>
>
> So here's my big question.
>
> Is an iPod really a good investment?
>
> I ask this, because I know every couple of years or so, I would have to
> purchase a new iPod, in order to keep it current. If not, then it will
> become out of date, and possibly not function properly.
>
> It's the same thing with the iPhone really. I have to say that this is
> the only disappointing thing about different technologies. I mean, I'd
> rather be able to update stuff, and not necessarily have to purchase
> new, in order for the device to continue to work.
>
>
> So if I do decide to purchase an iPod, is it best to purchase new, or
> refirbished?
>
> I think I know the answer to this. But I figured I would ask anyway.
>
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Terri
>
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RE: Echo?

[Alan Lemly]

Sieghard,

Yes, the Amazon unlimited music cost of $79 annually is in addition to what you 
pay for prime membership. If you're not a prime member, the cost is more but I 
don't know the amount. I was already paying $4 a month to have unlimited music 
on one Echo so I decided in my case, it was worth the extra $31 annually to 
have unlimited music on all my echoes.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

So is that unlimited music an extra $79 in addition to Amazon Prime?
Yes, Alexa has many skills, but as I said before, I find their use to me is 
limited since half the time I forget the correct word or phrase I have to use 
for skills I may not use often.
I am sure being in Canada has something to do with it, Alexa officially has 
only been available here since the beginning of December and we don't even 
have, for example, family sharing or what Amazon calls this where I could, for 
example connect my wife's account to mine.
I was also wondering why Alexa always said she couldn't yet play my Audible 
books. I now found out that my Audible membership which I have had for more 
than 10 years is a US membership since there was no Audible Canada until last 
October. For some reason Alexa here in Canada can only play books I purchase 
from Audible.ca. I could ask Audible to transfer my US account over and 
apparently I would get to keep all my books and any existing credits on my 
account would also transfer, but so far I have hesitated because just as Amazon 
it seems that Audible offers here are still more limited compared to the US. 
For example, currently Audible.ca only offers one monthly subscription for 1 
credit, there is not yet an option for the 2 credit a month subscription or 
even to purchase 12 or 24 credits all at once. The price does make Audible.ca 
attractive since a 1 credit membership costs the same $14.95 as in the US 
except it is $14.95 Canadian and with the Canadian Dollar being pretty weak 
right now that of course I s better than $14.95 US which works out to about 30 
to 32% more. In fact, my Platinum membership from the US which is $22.95 
currently is about $30 give or take a Dollar so even though I get two credits 
for that at a reduced cost per credit, after the exchange I pay the same as I 
would for 2 credits here except I can't yet buy two credits a month. They just 
started offering the daily deal here in Canada, but none of the other 
promotions which often are offered in the States like buy 2 books for 1 credit 
or 3 books for 2 credits or buy any number of books from a preselected list 
where all books on the list are $4.95 are offered yet here. 
Anyhow, I might just purchase 24 credits with my US membership and then 
transfer my account, this way these credits come to my Canadian account and 
then I can continue with just the 1 credit subscription and hopefully in the 
next year or so they will expand what they offer here.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Sieghard, 
That's curious and I'm sorry if I led you astray. Alexa played the latest 
AppleVis podcast for me just now when I asked as I posted and also when I 
tested it before posting. I wonder if your being in Canada affects your 
results? 

I will say that I've noticed that Alexa seems to be progressing at a fairly 
accelerated rate so I'm enjoying all she can do and look forward to the 
continued improvements. 

I'll wish the skills available to Canada will catch up and things like 
unlimited music will also become available there. I agree that you really only 
need one unlimited music service and I understand why you chose Apple Music but 
in my case, I really enjoy listening to music on my Echoes and getting 
unlimited music from Amazon for $79 annually as an Amazon prime member was just 
too good to pass up. 

Alan 

Selnt from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Interestingly enough Alexa is very stubborn when it comes to playing 
> Podcasts. I just asked her exactly what you said "Alexa, play Applevis 
> Podcast" and she replied "Here is a playlist you might like..." and she went 
> on to playing some music. I then said "Alexa, play Podcast Applevis" and she 
> said "I can't find a program called Applevis".
> When I ask her "Alexa, play Windows Weekly podcast" she plays the latest 
> episode no problem, she says "Windows Weekly, here is the latest episode from 
> Tune In".
> When I ask for the Blind Side Podcast, FS Cast, Today in iOS it's no go.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> 

Re: Use my phone, or purchase an iPod?

[Andy Baracco]

If battery life is the concern why not take the money that you would spend 
on the iPod
and buy an external battery or something like the Mophie juicepack, which is 
a case with a built in external battery. Or you can take that money and 
upgrade to an iPhone with more storage, or the 7 or 8 plus which have larger 
batteries. Personally, I like having as few devices as possible, but it's a 
personal decision.  Some folks opt for a cheap flip phone for making and 
taking calls, and either an iPhone or iPod Touch for the other stuff, as the 
phone is probably the worst thing about an iPhone.


Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:51 PM
Subject: Use my phone, or purchase an iPod?



Hello once more everyone,


I always try to think things out and make good decisions. That's
important to me. So lately I have been wondering if I should purchase an
iPod, or not. I know some people use their phone for everything. If you
can do that and like doing that, then that's awesome!


However, my current phone is an SE, and has 32 gigs of space. I do play
Apple music from my phone, as well as some games. I also make a lot of
calls pretty regularly, as well as texting. Sometimes there are days
where I run my battery down quicker than other days.


Honestly, I would like to have an iPod for mostly listening to music,
reading, playing games on it, and possibly a few other things. I want to
have my phone for calling and texting, and some other Apps I don't
always want to have to worry about my phone's battery. Especially if I
am out somewhere.


I had an iPod many years ago, and I liked it. I purchased it used.


So here's my big question.

Is an iPod really a good investment?

I ask this, because I know every couple of years or so, I would have to
purchase a new iPod, in order to keep it current. If not, then it will
become out of date, and possibly not function properly.

It's the same thing with the iPhone really. I have to say that this is
the only disappointing thing about different technologies. I mean, I'd
rather be able to update stuff, and not necessarily have to purchase
new, in order for the device to continue to work.


So if I do decide to purchase an iPod, is it best to purchase new, or
refirbished?

I think I know the answer to this. But I figured I would ask anyway.


Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: recycling an iPhone

[Anthony Vece]

Sell it!


Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:39 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I was wondering, what could I possibly do with an iPhone I don't use?
> 
> Where could I possibly take it to have it recycled?
> 
> 
> The phone is basically a brick, because it's the 1 I bought a while back 
> and found out it was likely stolen. SO it just sits in a drawer. I was 
> going to use it as my mp3 player. But it's only a 16 gig model, and I 
> really want more space than this.
> 
> 
> Any help or thoughts would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

So is that unlimited music an extra $79 in addition to Amazon Prime?
Yes, Alexa has many skills, but as I said before, I find their use to me is 
limited since half the time I forget the correct word or phrase I have to use 
for skills I may not use often.
I am sure being in Canada has something to do with it, Alexa officially has 
only been available here since the beginning of December and we don't even 
have, for example, family sharing or what Amazon calls this where I could, for 
example connect my wife's account to mine.
I was also wondering why Alexa always said she couldn't yet play my Audible 
books. I now found out that my Audible membership which I have had for more 
than 10 years is a US membership since there was no Audible Canada until last 
October. For some reason Alexa here in Canada can only play books I purchase 
from Audible.ca. I could ask Audible to transfer my US account over and 
apparently I would get to keep all my books and any existing credits on my 
account would also transfer, but so far I have hesitated because just as Amazon 
it seems that Audible offers here are still more limited compared to the US. 
For example, currently Audible.ca only offers one monthly subscription for 1 
credit, there is not yet an option for the 2 credit a month subscription or 
even to purchase 12 or 24 credits all at once. The price does make Audible.ca 
attractive since a 1 credit membership costs the same $14.95 as in the US 
except it is $14.95 Canadian and with the Canadian Dollar being pretty weak 
right now that of course I s better than $14.95 US which works out to about 30 
to 32% more. In fact, my Platinum membership from the US which is $22.95 
currently is about $30 give or take a Dollar so even though I get two credits 
for that at a reduced cost per credit, after the exchange I pay the same as I 
would for 2 credits here except I can't yet buy two credits a month. They just 
started offering the daily deal here in Canada, but none of the other 
promotions which often are offered in the States like buy 2 books for 1 credit 
or 3 books for 2 credits or buy any number of books from a preselected list 
where all books on the list are $4.95 are offered yet here. 
Anyhow, I might just purchase 24 credits with my US membership and then 
transfer my account, this way these credits come to my Canadian account and 
then I can continue with just the 1 credit subscription and hopefully in the 
next year or so they will expand what they offer here.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Sieghard, 
That's curious and I'm sorry if I led you astray. Alexa played the latest 
AppleVis podcast for me just now when I asked as I posted and also when I 
tested it before posting. I wonder if your being in Canada affects your 
results? 

I will say that I've noticed that Alexa seems to be progressing at a fairly 
accelerated rate so I'm enjoying all she can do and look forward to the 
continued improvements. 

I'll wish the skills available to Canada will catch up and things like 
unlimited music will also become available there. I agree that you really only 
need one unlimited music service and I understand why you chose Apple Music but 
in my case, I really enjoy listening to music on my Echoes and getting 
unlimited music from Amazon for $79 annually as an Amazon prime member was just 
too good to pass up. 

Alan 

Selnt from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Interestingly enough Alexa is very stubborn when it comes to playing 
> Podcasts. I just asked her exactly what you said "Alexa, play Applevis 
> Podcast" and she replied "Here is a playlist you might like..." and she went 
> on to playing some music. I then said "Alexa, play Podcast Applevis" and she 
> said "I can't find a program called Applevis".
> When I ask her "Alexa, play Windows Weekly podcast" she plays the latest 
> episode no problem, she says "Windows Weekly, here is the latest episode from 
> Tune In".
> When I ask for the Blind Side Podcast, FS Cast, Today in iOS it's no go.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
> 
> I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes 
> are great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any 
> additional skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. 
> For example, you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the 
> latest episode of that podcast. Very convenient. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> You 

Use my phone, or purchase an iPod?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello once more everyone,


I always try to think things out and make good decisions. That's 
important to me. So lately I have been wondering if I should purchase an 
iPod, or not. I know some people use their phone for everything. If you 
can do that and like doing that, then that's awesome!


However, my current phone is an SE, and has 32 gigs of space. I do play 
Apple music from my phone, as well as some games. I also make a lot of 
calls pretty regularly, as well as texting. Sometimes there are days 
where I run my battery down quicker than other days.


Honestly, I would like to have an iPod for mostly listening to music, 
reading, playing games on it, and possibly a few other things. I want to 
have my phone for calling and texting, and some other Apps I don't 
always want to have to worry about my phone's battery. Especially if I 
am out somewhere.


I had an iPod many years ago, and I liked it. I purchased it used.


So here's my big question.

Is an iPod really a good investment?

I ask this, because I know every couple of years or so, I would have to 
purchase a new iPod, in order to keep it current. If not, then it will 
become out of date, and possibly not function properly.

It's the same thing with the iPhone really. I have to say that this is 
the only disappointing thing about different technologies. I mean, I'd 
rather be able to update stuff, and not necessarily have to purchase 
new, in order for the device to continue to work.


So if I do decide to purchase an iPod, is it best to purchase new, or 
refirbished?

I think I know the answer to this. But I figured I would ask anyway.


Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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recycling an iPhone

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, what could I possibly do with an iPhone I don't use?

Where could I possibly take it to have it recycled?


The phone is basically a brick, because it's the 1 I bought a while back 
and found out it was likely stolen. SO it just sits in a drawer. I was 
going to use it as my mp3 player. But it's only a 16 gig model, and I 
really want more space than this.


Any help or thoughts would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Echo?

[Alan Lemly]

Sieghard, 
That's curious and I'm sorry if I led you astray. Alexa played the latest 
AppleVis podcast for me just now when I asked as I posted and also when I 
tested it before posting. I wonder if your being in Canada affects your 
results? 

I will say that I've noticed that Alexa seems to be progressing at a fairly 
accelerated rate so I'm enjoying all she can do and look forward to the 
continued improvements. 

I'll wish the skills available to Canada will catch up and things like 
unlimited music will also become available there. I agree that you really only 
need one unlimited music service and I understand why you chose Apple Music but 
in my case, I really enjoy listening to music on my Echoes and getting 
unlimited music from Amazon for $79 annually as an Amazon prime member was just 
too good to pass up. 

Alan 

Selnt from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Interestingly enough Alexa is very stubborn when it comes to playing 
> Podcasts. I just asked her exactly what you said "Alexa, play Applevis 
> Podcast" and she replied "Here is a playlist you might like..." and she went 
> on to playing some music. I then said "Alexa, play Podcast Applevis" and she 
> said "I can't find a program called Applevis".
> When I ask her "Alexa, play Windows Weekly podcast" she plays the latest 
> episode no problem, she says "Windows Weekly, here is the latest episode from 
> Tune In".
> When I ask for the Blind Side Podcast, FS Cast, Today in iOS it's no go.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
> 
> I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes 
> are great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any 
> additional skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. 
> For example, you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the 
> latest episode of that podcast. Very convenient. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
>> them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the iPhone since 
>> things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat and so on require 
>> you to put in your login name/email address and password.
>> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
>> remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a bit tideous.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Echo?
>> 
>> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
>> followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest gismo for an 
>> hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to him!  But 
>> fascinated really.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mama Peach" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: Echo?
>> 
>> 
>> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
>> fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo 
>> devices. I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on 
>> it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Echo?
>> 
>> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
>> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
>> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
>> Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon 
>> has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
>> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
>> Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
>> Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
>> diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is 
>> probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack 
>> which allows you to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can 
>> connect it to a receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it 
>> to listen and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do 
>> conversions as well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people 
>> etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as 
>> apps. We have the Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo 
>> weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi 

RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I haven't heard about music unlimited, maybe not available in Canada. Anyhow, 
it's probably aother subscription and I don't believe in duplicating 
subscriptions if I can choose one which has what I need. At this point my wife 
and I have decided to stick with Apple Music since at $14.99 Canadian for a 
family account it's probably the best deal. My wife is from the Philippines and 
Apple Music has a lot of filipino music, Deezer does also have that and I'm not 
sure about Spotify, but as I said, at this point we are pretty happy with Apple 
Music even though currently that does not offer us voice control via Alexa and 
Sonos. I actually don't listen to music all that much any more, I just don't 
have the time and when I want something playing in the background while I'm 
doing something I prefer an audio book over music.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Echo?

Music unlimitted has more choice over prime.

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RE: Amazon Kindle, can I buy using the app?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks for both of you, Mark and Mary.  I was wondering why there was not a buy 
button.  Now I understand.  It makes sense.

Cheers,

Cris
Twitter: @JerusalemBoy

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon Kindle, can I buy using the app?

Chris,

It is not possible to purchase books via the Kindle app for Amazon refuses to 
pay Apple a portion of the purchase cost.

In the USA, in order to purchase a title, simply go to kindle.com.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:11 PM
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Subject: Amazon Kindle, can I buy using the app?

Hello Folks,
I have not used the Amazon Kindle app for a long time.  When the App first came 
out for iOS, it was not possible to use to purchase books.  For a strange 
reason I thought this feature has been added later.  When I searched for a book 
I want to buy today on the app, I was able to download a sample, but I could 
not find a buy button.  
Is it still not possible to purchase books using the Kindle app?  How do I buy 
the book I want then?
I appreciate your suggestions.
 
Cheers,
Cris Ali
Twitter: @jerusalemBoy
 
 
 
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RE: Amazon Kindle, can I buy using the app?

[M. Taylor]

Chris,

It is not possible to purchase books via the Kindle app for Amazon refuses to 
pay Apple a portion of the purchase cost.

In the USA, in order to purchase a title, simply go to kindle.com.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon Kindle, can I buy using the app?

Hello Folks,
I have not used the Amazon Kindle app for a long time.  When the App first came 
out for iOS, it was not possible to use to purchase books.  For a strange 
reason I thought this feature has been added later.  When I searched for a book 
I want to buy today on the app, I was able to download a sample, but I could 
not find a buy button.  
Is it still not possible to purchase books using the Kindle app?  How do I buy 
the book I want then?
I appreciate your suggestions.
 
Cheers,
Cris Ali
Twitter: @jerusalemBoy
 
 
 
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Re: Amazon Kindle, can I buy using the app?

[Mary Otten]

You can’t buy a book using the Kindle app on iOS. You can add it to your wish 
list and buy using Safari or whatever web browser you want. Or you can just use 
the Amazon website on safari directly at never mind wish list and buy it.
Mary


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> On Mar 30, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello Folks,
> I have not used the Amazon Kindle app for a long time.  When the App first 
> came out for iOS, it was not possible to use to purchase books.  For a 
> strange reason I thought this feature has been added later.  When I searched 
> for a book I want to buy today on the app, I was able to download a sample, 
> but I could not find a buy button. 
> Is it still not possible to purchase books using the Kindle app?  How do I 
> buy the book I want then?
> I appreciate your suggestions.
>  
> Cheers,
> Cris Ali
> Twitter: @jerusalemBoy
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Amazon Kindle, can I buy using the app?

[Cris Ali]

Hello Folks,
I have not used the Amazon Kindle app for a long time.  When the App first came 
out for iOS, it was not possible to use to purchase books.  For a strange 
reason I thought this feature has been added later.  When I searched for a book 
I want to buy today on the app, I was able to download a sample, but I could 
not find a buy button.
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the book I want then?
I appreciate your suggestions.

Cheers,
Cris Ali
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RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[M. Taylor]

Hello Matthew,

I just checked, again, and the Mac OS update was available.  

I just downloaded it and all is well.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Interesting I believe it was 9-5 Mac which reported it.  I just installed it 
earlier today.

Matthew



> On Mar 30, 2018, at 1:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not 
> one that I could find.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of matthew dyer
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
>> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
>> to tvOS and watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including 
>> the iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
>> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
>> for download now in supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
>> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
>> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support 
>> reps from companies in Messages, and lets users access their personal 
>> health records in the Health app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple 
>> TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these 
>> updates adds for users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in 
>> the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
>> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the 
>> point that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting 
>> from voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
>> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
>> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
>> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
>> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
>> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
>> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown 
>> due to low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is 
>> currently supporting normal peak performance." However, if your 
>> battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this 
>> copy instead:
>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the 
>> battery was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance 
>> management has been applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the 
>> performance-management feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It 
>> also tells you that you can upgrade the battery to solve this problem 
>> completely:
>> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized 
>> Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and 
>> capacity.
>> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
>> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a 
>> maximum capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on 
>> unless you've run into the problem.
>> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to 
>> address a consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with 
>> users about the option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key 
>> in the class-action lawsuits that have popped up in response to the 
>> performance management controversy that began last December when 
>> Reddit users and the dev behind benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed 
>> that iOS throttled performance on devices with underperforming batteries.
>> Apple does not offer this feature 

RE: Echo?

[Merv Keck]

Canada is pretty new to the Echo skill ecosystem. Many people use a U.S. 
address in order to get access to more amazon Echo functionality. But if it 
grows anywhere nearly as quickly as it grew in every other country I think it 
will come in to its own before long. 
I like the voice control that amazon Music gives me. and with Unlimited I 
rarely come across something that I cannot hear. Usually if amazon Music 
Unlimited doesn't have it Apple does. And it often works the other way around 
for me as well. Although at this time Apple does not have voice control. I'm 
hoping that comes soon.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

in the UK, amazon prime music, has over 2 million songs and growing, and if you 
have music unlimited, it has over 40 million songs.

So it is certainly not pathetic, here in the UK.

It must be different for you, in canada.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

Alexa can play a lot of music, but when you compare it to Apple Music, Spotify 
or Deezer it's positively pathetic. Amazon Music which you get with an Amazon 
Prime subscription has a mere 1 Million songs compared to the around 40 million 
songs from the other services.

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Aah, now that appeals.  Bro' was on about music, but not sure how that was done 
either.  Podcasts have persistently illuded me so far, so lots to play with TG!

Thanks, BobH.


- Original Message -
From: "Alan Lemly" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Echo?


I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any additional 
skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. For example, 
you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode 
of that podcast. Very convenient.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to 
> enable them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the 
> iPhone since things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi 
> thermostat and so on require you to put in your login name/email 
> address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you 
> have to remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a 
> bit tideous.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really 
> hadn't followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest 
> gismo for an hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening 
> to him!  But fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
>
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are 
> really fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the 
> Echo devices. I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also 
> has Alexa on it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
>
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the 
> Google Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has 
> SIRI, Amazon has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very 
> impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a 
> number of Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are 
> probably the Echo Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, 
> about 3.3 inches in diameter and the Dot is only about
> 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. 
> The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you to hook up 
> larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver 
> or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen and then 
> ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
> well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You 
> can also enable so-called "Skills", basically 

Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[matthew dyer]

Interesting I believe it was 9-5 Mac which reported it.  I just installed it 
earlier today.

Matthew



> On Mar 30, 2018, at 1:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not 
> one that I could find.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> matthew dyer
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
>> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
>> to tvOS and watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the 
>> iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
>> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
>> for download now in supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
>> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
>> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support reps 
>> from companies in Messages, and lets users access their personal 
>> health records in the Health app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple 
>> TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these 
>> updates adds for users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in 
>> the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
>> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point 
>> that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from 
>> voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
>> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
>> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
>> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
>> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
>> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
>> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown 
>> due to low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is 
>> currently supporting normal peak performance." However, if your 
>> battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this 
>> copy instead:
>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery 
>> was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management 
>> has been applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the 
>> performance-management feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It 
>> also tells you that you can upgrade the battery to solve this problem 
>> completely:
>> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized 
>> Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and 
>> capacity.
>> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
>> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a 
>> maximum capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on 
>> unless you've run into the problem.
>> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to 
>> address a consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users 
>> about the option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the 
>> class-action lawsuits that have popped up in response to the 
>> performance management controversy that began last December when 
>> Reddit users and the dev behind benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed 
>> that iOS throttled performance on devices with underperforming batteries.
>> Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a 
>> new iPad feature called "charge management." The update notes say it 
>> "maintains battery health when iPad is connected to power for 
>> prolonged periods of time, such as when it is used in kiosks, 
>> point-of-sale systems, or stored in charging carts."
>> 
>> ARKit 1.5
>> ARKit is Apple's augmented reality application programming interface. 
>> Apple introduced ARKit at its 

Re: Echo?

[Dave]

in the UK, amazon prime music, has over 2 million songs and growing, and if 
you have music unlimited, it has over 40 million songs.


So it is certainly not pathetic, here in the UK.

It must be different for you, in canada.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

Alexa can play a lot of music, but when you compare it to Apple Music, 
Spotify or Deezer it's positively pathetic. Amazon Music which you get with 
an Amazon Prime subscription has a mere 1 Million songs compared to the 
around 40 million songs from the other services.


-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Aah, now that appeals.  Bro' was on about music, but not sure how that was 
done either.  Podcasts have persistently illuded me so far, so lots to play 
with TG!


Thanks, BobH.


- Original Message -
From: "Alan Lemly" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Echo?


I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes 
are great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need
to enable any additional skills to do this. You just need to know the name 
of the podcast. For example, you can say "Alexa, play
AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode of that podcast. Very 
convenient.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on
the iPhone since things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi 
thermostat and so on require you to put in your login name/email

address and password.
I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can

get a bit tideous.


-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really 
hadn't followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about
his latest gismo for an hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored 
listening to him!  But fascinated really.

- Original Message -
From: "Mama Peach" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: Echo?


There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are 
really fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much
with the Echo devices. I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that 
also has Alexa on it.


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the 
Google Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring,
Apple has SIRI, Amazon has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", 
very impersonal.
Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number 
of Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think
are probably the Echo Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, 
about 3.3 inches in diameter and the Dot is only about
1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The 
Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you to
hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a 
receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it
to listen and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do 
conversions as well as answer a bunch of questions about
countries, people etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically 
think of them as apps. We have the Philipps Hue light
bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and Honeywell Lyric 
WiFi thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask
the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or 
tell it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur 
jokes etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and
as for timers the nice thing is that you can set multiple timers which I 
still can't believe SIRI can't do after being around for
what, 6 and a half years? In the US/Canada and Mexico you can also make 
free phone calls via the Echo to any landline or cellular
phone although I must say the quality is often disappointing. Also, if you 
have multiple Echos throughout the house of even one in
a different location but on the same Amazon account you can use them like 
a hands free Intercom, when I'm in the 

RE: Phone stopped ringing

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Two things to check.
One, did the mute switch get flipped down which will silence sounds, but it 
will still vibrate.
Two, did you check that Do Not Disturb did not get enabled accidentally?

HTH,
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Judy 
Pryor
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone stopped ringing

Today my phone has stopped ring it just vibrates.  Have gone into sounds and 
the old phone is sellected  and the volume is 100 percent.  What else can I do.
Also when the Mail app it vibrates when I go into it.  I do not remember it 
doing that before.

I hope somebody can help as I missed several calls today.

Regards

Judy

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Phone stopped ringing

[Judy Pryor]

Today my phone has stopped ring it just vibrates.  Have gone into sounds and 
the old phone is sellected  and the volume is 100 percent.  What else can I do.
Also when the Mail app it vibrates when I go into it.  I do not remember it 
doing that before.

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Regards

Judy

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RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Merv Keck]

I found that if I accentuate the Viz in Apple visz  when I say "Wake Word play 
Apple Viz! Podcast" that she complies quite easily.
It is currently playing on my Sonos Ones in the ManCave group. Laughs!
Merv

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Smith
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:49 PM
To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

No, it is not the same as the latest beta. The version number in the latest 
update is: 11.3 (15e216. 

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Larry,
> 
> Usually the last beta is the same version as the public release. I am aware 
> of how you can delete the beta profile, but I don't really want to do this if 
> my version is the same as what everybody else got yesterday because then if I 
> want to redownload the next beta for iOS 11.3.1 I have to enroll again and 
> that is why I asked for somebody who was not on the public beta program and 
> who has already installed iOS 11.3 to post the full version number.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:18 AM
> To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> You need to remove the beta profile. After removing, reboot your phone and 
> then the update will appear.
> 
>>  On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
>> beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
>> somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
>> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
>> launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
>> watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad 
>> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
>> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
>> supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling 
>> on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, 
>> adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in 
>> Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health 
>> app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
>> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
>> users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
>> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
>> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose 
>> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple 
>> lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
>> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
>> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns 
>> with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more 
>> detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a 
>> percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
>> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to 
>> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently 
>> supporting normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to 
>> a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
>> unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
>> applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>> 

RE: Echo?

[Merv Keck]

I have both Apple Music and Amazon Music Unlimited. I have both Sonos and 
amazon products here in the house. The Sonos Ones with Alexa are fantastic for 
music. Because we live in a community that is controlled by an enterprise level 
mesh system. And we are not permitted to have personal routers  Sonos 
originally told us that we would lose the ability to use our multi-room system. 
However, after four days of working with the app. And being told by everyone 
including Sonos, Spectrum, and the community manager that it couldn't be done, 
we have Sonos working with only an occasional hiccup where one of the speakers 
in a room will occasionally drop our out of the group for a minute. This is 
rare though. Also, some services such as Tune In Live works on the Amazon 
products but not the Sonos products even though Sonos says they should work 
fine.
But when it works it sounds great. For music, voice, podcasts, and a ton of 
skills in every room. for both Sonos One and Amazon Echo.
Merv

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

Alexa can play a lot of music, but when you compare it to Apple Music, Spotify 
or Deezer it's positively pathetic. Amazon Music which you get with an Amazon 
Prime subscription has a mere 1 Million songs compared to the around 40 million 
songs from the other services.

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Aah, now that appeals.  Bro' was on about music, but not sure how that was done 
either.  Podcasts have persistently illuded me so far, so lots to play with TG!

Thanks, BobH.


- Original Message -
From: "Alan Lemly" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Echo?


I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any additional 
skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. For example, 
you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode 
of that podcast. Very convenient.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to 
> enable them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the 
> iPhone since things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat and 
> so on require you to put in your login name/email address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you 
> have to remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a bit 
> tideous.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really 
> hadn't followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest gismo 
> for an hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to him!  But 
> fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
>
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are 
> really fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo 
> devices. I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on 
> it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
>
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the 
> Google Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, 
> Amazon has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a 
> number of Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are 
> probably the Echo Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, 
> about 3.3 inches in diameter and the Dot is only about
> 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. 
> The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you to hook up 
> larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver 
> or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen and then 
> ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
> well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You can also 
> 

Re: couple of IPhone questions if I may!

[Joe Paton]

Yes janet, quic nav can be turned on and off.
That's what makes it so odd.
Thanks.



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Re: Echo?

[Joe Paton]

Music unlimitted has more choice over prime.

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RE: Echo?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

I agree that that functionality needs some work, but this is at least a good 
start.  Hopefully it will keep improving.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

About groups I can only say that I find Amazon really has to improve that 
functionality. Currently if you group let's say all your Echos in the house 
into a group called Housegroup you couldn't take let's say the kitchen and 
living room echos and make them into another group. I think you should be able 
to make any group by voice command, while you have to do it manually with Sonos 
it is certainly a lot more flexible.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

Yes, it's great for all of these things.

We also use it to play radio stations all over the U.S.  You can say "Alexa, 
play KFI on iHeart Radio on the house group", for example.  Alexa will play the 
station, in synch, on multiple echos that you have set up in different rooms 
and have defined as a group.  We have the original Alexa in our office,, a dot 
in the kitchen, and another dot connected to our receiver in the living room.

It's very handy.

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Alan 
Lemly [wale...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any additional 
skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. For example, 
you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode 
of that podcast. Very convenient.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
> them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the iPhone since 
> things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat and so on require 
> you to put in your login name/email address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
> remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a bit tideous.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
> followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest gismo for an 
> hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to him!  But 
> fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
>
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
> fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo devices. 
> I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
>
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
> Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon 
> has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
> Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
> Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
> diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is 
> probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which 
> allows you to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it 
> to a receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen 
> and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
> well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You can also 
> enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as apps. We have the 
> Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and 
> Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask 
> the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell 
> it to set the temperature to 21 

RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Alexa can play a lot of music, but when you compare it to Apple Music, Spotify 
or Deezer it's positively pathetic. Amazon Music which you get with an Amazon 
Prime subscription has a mere 1 Million songs compared to the around 40 million 
songs from the other services.

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Aah, now that appeals.  Bro' was on about music, but not sure how that was done 
either.  Podcasts have persistently illuded me so far, so lots to play with TG!

Thanks, BobH.


- Original Message -
From: "Alan Lemly" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Echo?


I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need 
to enable any additional skills to do this. You just need to know the name of 
the podcast. For example, you can say "Alexa, play 
AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode of that podcast. Very 
convenient.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
> them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on 
> the iPhone since things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat 
> and so on require you to put in your login name/email 
> address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
> remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can 
> get a bit tideous.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
> followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about 
> his latest gismo for an hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored 
> listening to him!  But fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
>
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
> fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much 
> with the Echo devices. I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also 
> has Alexa on it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
>
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
> Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, 
> Apple has SIRI, Amazon has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very 
> impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
> Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think 
> are probably the Echo Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, 
> about 3.3 inches in diameter and the Dot is only about 
> 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot 
> also has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you to 
> hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver 
> or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it 
> to listen and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do 
> conversions as well as answer a bunch of questions about 
> countries, people etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically 
> think of them as apps. We have the Philipps Hue light 
> bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi 
> thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask 
> the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell 
> it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
> Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes 
> etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and 
> as for timers the nice thing is that you can set multiple timers which I 
> still can't believe SIRI can't do after being around for 
> what, 6 and a half years? In the US/Canada and Mexico you can also make free 
> phone calls via the Echo to any landline or cellular 
> phone although I must say the quality is often disappointing. Also, if you 
> have multiple Echos throughout the house of even one in 
> a different location but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a 
> hands free Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want 
> to talk to my wife in the living room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the 
> Living Room"
> and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an 
> open two-way line where you can just 

Re: Echo?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Aah, now that appeals.  Bro' was on about music, but not sure how that was done 
either.  Podcasts have persistently illuded me so 
far, so lots to play with TG!

Thanks, BobH.


- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Echo?


I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need 
to enable any additional skills to do this. You just need to know the name of 
the podcast. For example, you can say "Alexa, play 
AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode of that podcast. Very 
convenient.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
> them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on 
> the iPhone since things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat 
> and so on require you to put in your login name/email 
> address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
> remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can 
> get a bit tideous.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
> followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about 
> his latest gismo for an hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored 
> listening to him!  But fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
>
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
> fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much 
> with the Echo devices. I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also 
> has Alexa on it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
>
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
> Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, 
> Apple has SIRI, Amazon has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very 
> impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
> Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think 
> are probably the Echo Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, 
> about 3.3 inches in diameter and the Dot is only about 
> 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot 
> also has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you to 
> hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver 
> or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it 
> to listen and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do 
> conversions as well as answer a bunch of questions about 
> countries, people etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically 
> think of them as apps. We have the Philipps Hue light 
> bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi 
> thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask 
> the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell 
> it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
> Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes 
> etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and 
> as for timers the nice thing is that you can set multiple timers which I 
> still can't believe SIRI can't do after being around for 
> what, 6 and a half years? In the US/Canada and Mexico you can also make free 
> phone calls via the Echo to any landline or cellular 
> phone although I must say the quality is often disappointing. Also, if you 
> have multiple Echos throughout the house of even one in 
> a different location but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a 
> hands free Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want 
> to talk to my wife in the living room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the 
> Living Room"
> and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an 
> open two-way line where you can just talk.
>
> Regards,
> SieghardI can simply say
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Echo?
>
> hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is 
> or does or whatever.  An app to do something with 
> something else; all so vague.
> Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot 

RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

About groups I can only say that I find Amazon really has to improve that 
functionality. Currently if you group let's say all your Echos in the house 
into a group called Housegroup you couldn't take let's say the kitchen and 
living room echos and make them into another group. I think you should be able 
to make any group by voice command, while you have to do it manually with Sonos 
it is certainly a lot more flexible.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

Yes, it's great for all of these things.

We also use it to play radio stations all over the U.S.  You can say "Alexa, 
play KFI on iHeart Radio on the house group", for example.  Alexa will play the 
station, in synch, on multiple echos that you have set up in different rooms 
and have defined as a group.  We have the original Alexa in our office,, a dot 
in the kitchen, and another dot connected to our receiver in the living room.

It's very handy.

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Alan 
Lemly [wale...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any additional 
skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. For example, 
you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode 
of that podcast. Very convenient.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
> them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the iPhone since 
> things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat and so on require 
> you to put in your login name/email address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
> remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a bit tideous.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
> followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest gismo for an 
> hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to him!  But 
> fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
>
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
> fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo devices. 
> I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
>
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
> Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon 
> has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
> Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
> Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
> diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is 
> probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which 
> allows you to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it 
> to a receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen 
> and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
> well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You can also 
> enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as apps. We have the 
> Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and 
> Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask 
> the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell 
> it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
> Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes 
> etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the nice 
> thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe SIRI 
> can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half years? In the US/Canada 
> and Mexico you can also 

RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks, after a number of messages where people told me all sorts of things 
except the version I asked for Anita (and now you) actually took the 30 seconds 
it takes to look it up. I already deleted the beta profile and the public 
release is installed, now my Apple Watch is just installing the new update 
after I did a complete erease and set it up as a new device. At first glance it 
does seem to be a lot more responsive now.
I think I have to do the same to my iPhone 6S Plus, it's been at least 2 years 
since I set it up as a new device and doing that every now and then I think 
really makes a difference.

Regards,
sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Smith
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:49 PM
To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

No, it is not the same as the latest beta. The version number in the latest 
update is: 11.3 (15e216. 

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Larry,
> 
> Usually the last beta is the same version as the public release. I am aware 
> of how you can delete the beta profile, but I don't really want to do this if 
> my version is the same as what everybody else got yesterday because then if I 
> want to redownload the next beta for iOS 11.3.1 I have to enroll again and 
> that is why I asked for somebody who was not on the public beta program and 
> who has already installed iOS 11.3 to post the full version number.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:18 AM
> To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> You need to remove the beta profile. After removing, reboot your phone and 
> then the update will appear.
> 
>>  On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
>> beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
>> somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
>> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
>> launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
>> watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad 
>> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
>> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
>> supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling 
>> on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, 
>> adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in 
>> Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health 
>> app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
>> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
>> users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
>> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
>> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose 
>> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple 
>> lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
>> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
>> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns 
>> with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more 
>> detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a 
>> percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
>> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to 
>> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently 
>> 

RE: Echo?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Yes, it's great for all of these things.

We also use it to play radio stations all over the U.S.  You can say "Alexa, 
play KFI on iHeart Radio on the house group", for example.  Alexa will play the 
station, in synch, on multiple echos that you have set up in different rooms 
and have defined as a group.  We have the original Alexa in our office,, a dot 
in the kitchen, and another dot connected to our receiver in the living room.

It's very handy.

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Alan 
Lemly [wale...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any additional 
skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. For example, 
you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode 
of that podcast. Very convenient.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
> them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the iPhone since 
> things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat and so on require 
> you to put in your login name/email address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
> remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a bit tideous.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
> followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest gismo for an 
> hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to him!  But 
> fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
>
>
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
> fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo devices. 
> I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
>
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
> Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon 
> has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
> Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
> Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
> diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is 
> probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which 
> allows you to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it 
> to a receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen 
> and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
> well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You can also 
> enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as apps. We have the 
> Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and 
> Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask 
> the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell 
> it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
> Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes 
> etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the nice 
> thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe SIRI 
> can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half years? In the US/Canada 
> and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the Echo to any landline or 
> cellular phone although I must say the quality is often disappointing. Also, 
> if you have multiple Echos throughout the house of even one in a different 
> location but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a hands free 
> Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my wife in the living 
> room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room"
> and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an 
> open two-way line where you can just talk.
>
> Regards,
> SieghardI can simply say
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 

RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

Interestingly enough Alexa is very stubborn when it comes to playing Podcasts. 
I just asked her exactly what you said "Alexa, play Applevis Podcast" and she 
replied "Here is a playlist you might like..." and she went on to playing some 
music. I then said "Alexa, play Podcast Applevis" and she said "I can't find a 
program called Applevis".
When I ask her "Alexa, play Windows Weekly podcast" she plays the latest 
episode no problem, she says "Windows Weekly, here is the latest episode from 
Tune In".
When I ask for the Blind Side Podcast, FS Cast, Today in iOS it's no go.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any additional 
skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. For example, 
you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode 
of that podcast. Very convenient. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
> them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the iPhone since 
> things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat and so on require 
> you to put in your login name/email address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
> remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a bit tideous.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
> 
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
> followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest gismo for an 
> hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to him!  But 
> fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
> 
> 
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
> fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo devices. 
> I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
> 
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
> Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon 
> has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
> Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
> Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
> diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is 
> probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which 
> allows you to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it 
> to a receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen 
> and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
> well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You can also 
> enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as apps. We have the 
> Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and 
> Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask 
> the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell 
> it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
> Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes 
> etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the nice 
> thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe SIRI 
> can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half years? In the US/Canada 
> and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the Echo to any landline or 
> cellular phone although I must say the quality is often disappointing. Also, 
> if you have multiple Echos throughout the house of even one in a different 
> location but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a hands free 
> Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my wife in the living 
> room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room"
> and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an 
> open two-way line 

Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Larry Smith]

No, it is not the same as the latest beta. The version number in the latest 
update is: 11.3 (15e216. 

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Larry,
> 
> Usually the last beta is the same version as the public release. I am aware 
> of how you can delete the beta profile, but I don't really want to do this if 
> my version is the same as what everybody else got yesterday because then if I 
> want to redownload the next beta for iOS 11.3.1 I have to enroll again and 
> that is why I asked for somebody who was not on the public beta program and 
> who has already installed iOS 11.3 to post the full version number.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:18 AM
> To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> You need to remove the beta profile. After removing, reboot your phone and 
> then the update will appear.
> 
>>  On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
>> beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
>> somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
>> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
>> launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
>> watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad 
>> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
>> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
>> supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling 
>> on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, 
>> adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in 
>> Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health 
>> app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
>> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
>> users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
>> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
>> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose 
>> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple 
>> lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
>> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
>> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns 
>> with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more 
>> detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a 
>> percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
>> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to 
>> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently 
>> supporting normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to 
>> a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
>> unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
>> applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management 
>> feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can 
>> upgrade the battery to solve this problem completely:
>> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service 
>> Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
>> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
>> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum 
>> capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on unless 

Re: Echo?

[Alan Lemly]

I'll add to Sieghard's excellent overview that Alexa and the Amazon Echoes are 
great for listening to podcasts. You don't even need to enable any additional 
skills to do this. You just need to know the name of the podcast. For example, 
you can say "Alexa, play AppleVis podcast" and she'll play the latest episode 
of that podcast. Very convenient. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable 
> them but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the iPhone since 
> things like Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat and so on require 
> you to put in your login name/email address and password.
> I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
> remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a bit tideous.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Echo?
> 
> Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
> followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest gismo for an 
> hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to him!  But 
> fascinated really.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mama Peach" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo?
> 
> 
> There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
> fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo devices. 
> I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Echo?
> 
> I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
> Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
> Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
> Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon 
> has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
> Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
> Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
> Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
> diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is 
> probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which 
> allows you to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it 
> to a receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen 
> and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
> well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You can also 
> enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as apps. We have the 
> Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and 
> Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask 
> the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell 
> it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
> Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes 
> etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the nice 
> thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe SIRI 
> can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half years? In the US/Canada 
> and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the Echo to any landline or 
> cellular phone although I must say the quality is often disappointing. Also, 
> if you have multiple Echos throughout the house of even one in a different 
> location but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a hands free 
> Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my wife in the living 
> room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room"
> and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an 
> open two-way line where you can just talk.
> 
> Regards,
> SieghardI can simply say
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Echo?
> 
> hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is 
> or does or whatever.  An app to do something with something else; all so 
> vague.
> Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of 
> them saying Why!
> 
> Thanks, BobH.
> 
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RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to download the skills, some you can ask Alexa directly to enable them 
but others you have to use the Amazon Alexa app on the iPhone since things like 
Netatmo weather station, Lyric WiFi thermostat and so on require you to put in 
your login name/email address and password.
I find a lot of the more trivial skills fairly useless because you have to 
remember the correct phrase to talk to it so that can get a bit tideous.


-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his latest gismo for an hour 
on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to him!  But fascinated 
really.
- Original Message -
From: "Mama Peach" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: Echo?


There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really fun 
dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo devices. I 
have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on it.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with Amazon's 
digital assistant Alexa.
Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon has 
Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is probably 
about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you 
to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver 
or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen and then ask your 
question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as well as answer a 
bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You can also enable so-called 
"Skills", basically think of them as apps. We have the Philipps Hue light bulbs 
at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi 
thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask the temperature or 
humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell it to set the 
temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes 
etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the nice 
thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe SIRI 
can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half years? In the US/Canada and 
Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the Echo to any landline or 
cellular phone although I must say the quality is often disappointing. Also, if 
you have multiple Echos throughout the house of even one in a different 
location but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a hands free 
Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my wife in the living 
room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room"
and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an 
open two-way line where you can just talk.

Regards,
SieghardI can simply say

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Echo?

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is or 
does or whatever.  An app to do something with something else; all so vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of them 
saying Why!

Thanks, BobH.

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Re: Echo?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Have to set Mrs on to setting that up I reckon. She's expert in Prime orders, 
the delivery guy knows us quite well now.

Thanks, BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Echo?


You can also tell Alexa to add items to your Amazon shopping cart and it 
actually places orders as long as you have one-touch 
checkout turned on or whatever that is called again.


-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Brill!..   thanks for all this, just what I needed.

Q:  manuals or instructions to get going, where from or how please.

Thanks, BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: Echo?


I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with Amazon's 
digital assistant Alexa.
Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring,
Apple has SIRI, Amazon has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very 
impersonal.
Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think
are probably the Echo Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 
3.3 inches in diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5
inches tall, a regular Echo is probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also 
has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you to hook up
larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver or Sonos 
player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen
and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
well as answer a bunch of questions about countries,
people etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as 
apps. We have the Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as
well as a Netatmo weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can 
ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask the temperature or
humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell it to set the 
temperature to 21 degrees or whatever. Alexa can also tell
all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes etc., she can sing 
songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the
nice thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe SIRI 
can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half
years? In the US/Canada and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the 
Echo to any landline or cellular phone although I must
say the quality is often disappointing. Also, if you have multiple Echos 
throughout the house of even one in a different location
but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a hands free Intercom, 
when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my wife in
the living room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room" and after 
a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and
then there is an open two-way line where you can just talk.

Regards,
SieghardI can simply say

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Echo?

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is or 
does or whatever.  An app to do something with
something else; all so vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of them 
saying Why!

Thanks, BobH.

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Re: Echo?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Are Skills on it from the start, or downloaded, or whatever; I really hadn't 
followed the plot on these until Bro' was on about his 
latest gismo for an hour on the phone.  Got cramp, then got bored listening to 
him!  But fascinated really.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mama Peach" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: Echo?


There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really
fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo
devices. I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on
it.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with
Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google
Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon
has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of
Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo
Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in
diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is
probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack
which allows you to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can
connect it to a receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it
to listen and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do
conversions as well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people
etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as
apps. We have the Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo
weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn
on the lights, ask the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or
inside modules or tell it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever.
Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur
jokes etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the
nice thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe
SIRI can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half years? In the
US/Canada and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the Echo to any
landline or cellular phone although I must say the quality is often
disappointing. Also, if you have multiple Echos throughout the house of even
one in a different location but on the same Amazon account you can use them
like a hands free Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my
wife in the living room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room"
and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an
open two-way line where you can just talk.

Regards,
SieghardI can simply say

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Echo?

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is
or does or whatever.  An app to do something with something else; all so
vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of
them saying Why!

Thanks, BobH.

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Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Harry Bell]

Ah, you are right! It was an os update - it took a very long time!
Harry

> On 30 Mar 2018, at 19:41, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> There was an update, today for Mac OS.  And, it was listed under OS Updates, 
> but it was iTunes, only.  
> 
> Again, I could be mistaken so I'll check again, later tonight.
> 
> After updating your Mac, did it restart and did the process take longer than 
> 10 minutes?  If so, then it was an OS update,  If not, then it was simply 
> updating iTunes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> I had to check a couple of times and even restart my 2009 MacBook to get it 
> to find the latest macOS update! The old machine is now updated and still 
> tottering along (though voiceover is a bit choppy or disappears at times...) 
> Harry
> 
>> On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not 
>> one that I could find.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of matthew dyer
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
>> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
>>> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
>>> to tvOS and watchOS.
>>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>>> 
>>> Apple
>>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including 
>>> the iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
>>> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
>>> for download now in supported regions.
>>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>>> since iOS
>>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
>>> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
>>> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support 
>>> reps from companies in Messages, and lets users access their personal 
>>> health records in the Health app.
>>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple 
>>> TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these 
>>> updates adds for users.
>>> Battery Health
>>> 
>>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in 
>>> the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
>>> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the 
>>> point that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting 
>>> from voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
>>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
>>> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
>>> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
>>> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
>>> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
>>> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
>>> Apple explains it this way:
>>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
>>> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown 
>>> due to low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is 
>>> currently supporting normal peak performance." However, if your 
>>> battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this 
>>> copy instead:
>>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the 
>>> battery was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance 
>>> management has been applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>>> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the 
>>> performance-management feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It 
>>> also tells you that you can upgrade the battery to solve this problem 
>>> completely:
>>> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized 
>>> Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and 
>>> capacity.
>>> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
>>> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a 
>>> maximum 

RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can also tell Alexa to add items to your Amazon shopping cart and it 
actually places orders as long as you have one-touch checkout turned on or 
whatever that is called again.


-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Echo?

Brill!..   thanks for all this, just what I needed.

Q:  manuals or instructions to get going, where from or how please.

Thanks, BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: Echo?


I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with Amazon's 
digital assistant Alexa.
Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, 
Apple has SIRI, Amazon has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very 
impersonal.
Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think 
are probably the Echo Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 
3.3 inches in diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 
inches tall, a regular Echo is probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also 
has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you to hook up 
larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver or Sonos 
player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen 
and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, 
people etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as 
apps. We have the Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as 
well as a Netatmo weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can 
ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask the temperature or 
humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell it to set the 
temperature to 21 degrees or whatever. Alexa can also tell 
all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes etc., she can sing 
songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the 
nice thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe SIRI 
can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half 
years? In the US/Canada and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the 
Echo to any landline or cellular phone although I must 
say the quality is often disappointing. Also, if you have multiple Echos 
throughout the house of even one in a different location 
but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a hands free Intercom, 
when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my wife in 
the living room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room" and after 
a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and 
then there is an open two-way line where you can just talk.

Regards,
SieghardI can simply say

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Echo?

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is or 
does or whatever.  An app to do something with 
something else; all so vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of them 
saying Why!

Thanks, BobH.

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RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks for mentioning the diffferent options, I found the “Reset” button in the 
Apple watch app and have erased it that way. I am now just setting it up again, 
it’s syncing and almost done.
I think this time I will not enable the auto install for apps, I really don’t 
need all these apps I have and use occasionally on my phone on my watch as well 
and it’s probably just bogging it down.
Let’s see if this will make a difference.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Grant 
Hardy
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:07 PM
To: Viphone List 
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Hi Sieghard

Yes, the easiest way I’ve found is to connect the watch to power and then press 
and hold on the side button for a couple seconds as though you are going to 
power off the watch. Now, press firmly on the “power off” button and you’ll see 
a new screen prompting you to erase all content and settings. Double-tap on the 
confirmation button (described as a green checkmark) and the watch will erase.

Of course, you can also erase it through Find My iPhone, and if you unpair it 
with your iPhone via the Watch app, that will also erase it.

Grant Hardy



On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Does anybody know if it is possible to completely erase and set up an Apple 
Watch again like you can do with an iPhone?
I bought a seocond generation Apple Watch in November 2016, so it's 1.5 years 
old. I find that I am often furstrated by how slow the thing is when I want to, 
for example, open the workout app or other apps. Then of course there is the 
issue that sometimes the thing auto locks before you hardly can do anything and 
I really hope Apple will fix that one of these days. I thought maybe wiping it 
out and setting it up again as a new device might help.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of SCOTT 
VAN GORP
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

watchOS also had an update. For those running the beta, you do need to 
uninstall the profile in order to get it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 30, 2018, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Hello Harry,

There was an update, today for Mac OS.  And, it was listed under OS Updates, 
but it was iTunes, only.

Again, I could be mistaken so I'll check again, later tonight.

After updating your Mac, did it restart and did the process take longer than 10 
minutes?  If so, then it was an OS update,  If not, then it was simply updating 
iTunes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones
since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

I had to check a couple of times and even restart my 2009 MacBook to
get it to find the latest macOS update! The old machine is now updated
and still tottering along (though voiceover is a bit choppy or
disappears at times...) Harry


On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not one 
that I could find.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones
since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.

Matthew




On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11
first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates
to tvOS and watchOS.
by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT

Apple
Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including
the iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and
later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available
for download now in supported regions.
With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS
since iOS
11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance
throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for
augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support
reps from 

Re: Echo?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Brill!..   thanks for all this, just what I needed.

Q:  manuals or instructions to get going, where from or how please.

Thanks, BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: Echo?


I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with Amazon's 
digital assistant Alexa.
Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, 
Apple has SIRI, Amazon has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very 
impersonal.
Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think 
are probably the Echo Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 
3.3 inches in diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 
inches tall, a regular Echo is probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also 
has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you to hook up 
larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver or Sonos 
player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen 
and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as 
well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, 
people etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as 
apps. We have the Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as 
well as a Netatmo weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can 
ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask the temperature or 
humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell it to set the 
temperature to 21 degrees or whatever. Alexa can also tell 
all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes etc., she can sing 
songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the 
nice thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe SIRI 
can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half 
years? In the US/Canada and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the 
Echo to any landline or cellular phone although I must 
say the quality is often disappointing. Also, if you have multiple Echos 
throughout the house of even one in a different location 
but on the same Amazon account you can use them like a hands free Intercom, 
when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my wife in 
the living room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room" and after 
a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and 
then there is an open two-way line where you can just talk.

Regards,
SieghardI can simply say

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Echo?

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is or 
does or whatever.  An app to do something with 
something else; all so vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of them 
saying Why!

Thanks, BobH.

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Re: Echo?

[Mama Peach]

There are tons and tons of skills as mentioned, and many of them are really 
fun dice, card and adventure games. You can do so much with the Echo 
devices. I have an Echo Spot and I have a fire tablet that also has Alexa on 
it.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Echo?

I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with 
Amazon's digital assistant Alexa.
Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon 
has Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is 
probably about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack 
which allows you to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can 
connect it to a receiver or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it 
to listen and then ask your question, it can set alarms, timers and do 
conversions as well as answer a bunch of questions about countries, people 
etc. You can also enable so-called "Skills", basically think of them as 
apps. We have the Philipps Hue light bulbs at home as well as a Netatmo 
weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn 
on the lights, ask the temperature or humidity of the Netatmo outside or 
inside modules or tell it to set the temperature to 21 degrees or whatever. 
Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur 
jokes etc., she can sing songs, tell stories or poems, and as for timers the 
nice thing is that you can set multiple timers which I still can't believe 
SIRI can't do after being around for what, 6 and a half years? In the 
US/Canada and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via the Echo to any 
landline or cellular phone although I must say the quality is often 
disappointing. Also, if you have multiple Echos throughout the house of even 
one in a different location but on the same Amazon account you can use them 
like a hands free Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my 
wife in the living room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room" 
and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an 
open two-way line where you can just talk.


Regards,
SieghardI can simply say

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Echo?

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is 
or does or whatever.  An app to do something with something else; all so 
vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of 
them saying Why!


Thanks, BobH.

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Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Sieghard

Yes, the easiest way I’ve found is to connect the watch to power and then press 
and hold on the side button for a couple seconds as though you are going to 
power off the watch. Now, press firmly on the “power off” button and you’ll see 
a new screen prompting you to erase all content and settings. Double-tap on the 
confirmation button (described as a green checkmark) and the watch will erase.

Of course, you can also erase it through Find My iPhone, and if you unpair it 
with your iPhone via the Watch app, that will also erase it.

Grant Hardy


On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Does anybody know if it is possible to completely erase and set up an Apple 
Watch again like you can do with an iPhone?
I bought a seocond generation Apple Watch in November 2016, so it's 1.5 years 
old. I find that I am often furstrated by how slow the thing is when I want to, 
for example, open the workout app or other apps. Then of course there is the 
issue that sometimes the thing auto locks before you hardly can do anything and 
I really hope Apple will fix that one of these days. I thought maybe wiping it 
out and setting it up again as a new device might help.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of SCOTT 
VAN GORP
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

watchOS also had an update. For those running the beta, you do need to 
uninstall the profile in order to get it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2018, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Hello Harry,

There was an update, today for Mac OS.  And, it was listed under OS Updates, 
but it was iTunes, only.

Again, I could be mistaken so I'll check again, later tonight.

After updating your Mac, did it restart and did the process take longer than 10 
minutes?  If so, then it was an OS update,  If not, then it was simply updating 
iTunes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones
since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

I had to check a couple of times and even restart my 2009 MacBook to
get it to find the latest macOS update! The old machine is now updated
and still tottering along (though voiceover is a bit choppy or
disappears at times...) Harry

On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not one 
that I could find.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones
since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.

Matthew



On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11
first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates
to tvOS and watchOS.
by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT

Apple
Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including
the iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and
later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available
for download now in supported regions.
With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS
since iOS
11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance
throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for
augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support
reps from companies in Messages, and lets users access their
personal health records in the Health app.
Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the
Apple TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of
these updates adds for users.
Battery Health

You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery"
in the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance
throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the
point that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting
from voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery,"
called 

Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Anthony Vece]

Yes, it is possible to erase and set up the watch as new. I had to do this when 
I got my iPhone X. I called Apple Accessibility and they walked me through it 
with no problem. Thanks God bless

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know if it is possible to completely erase and set up an Apple 
> Watch again like you can do with an iPhone?
> I bought a seocond generation Apple Watch in November 2016, so it's 1.5 years 
> old. I find that I am often furstrated by how slow the thing is when I want 
> to, for example, open the workout app or other apps. Then of course there is 
> the issue that sometimes the thing auto locks before you hardly can do 
> anything and I really hope Apple will fix that one of these days. I thought 
> maybe wiping it out and setting it up again as a new device might help.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of SCOTT 
> VAN GORP
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> watchOS also had an update. For those running the beta, you do need to 
> uninstall the profile in order to get it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Harry,
>> 
>> There was an update, today for Mac OS.  And, it was listed under OS Updates, 
>> but it was iTunes, only.  
>> 
>> Again, I could be mistaken so I'll check again, later tonight.
>> 
>> After updating your Mac, did it restart and did the process take longer than 
>> 10 minutes?  If so, then it was an OS update,  If not, then it was simply 
>> updating iTunes.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Harry Bell
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
>> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> I had to check a couple of times and even restart my 2009 MacBook to 
>> get it to find the latest macOS update! The old machine is now updated 
>> and still tottering along (though voiceover is a bit choppy or 
>> disappears at times...) Harry
>> 
>>> On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not 
>>> one that I could find.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of matthew dyer
>>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
>>> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>>> 
>>> Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
 first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
 to tvOS and watchOS.
 by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
 
 Apple
 Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including 
 the iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
 later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
 for download now in supported regions.
 With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
 since iOS
 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
 throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
 augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support 
 reps from companies in Messages, and lets users access their 
 personal health records in the Health app.
 Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the 
 Apple TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of 
 these updates adds for users.
 Battery Health
 
 You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" 
 in the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
 As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
 throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the 
 point that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting 
 from voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
 There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
 called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
 Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
 some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
 webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a 

Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Sieghard,

Actually, iMessage syncing isn’t available in the final release of iOS 11.3. 
Personally, I can’t wait until this feature is commercially released, because 
it will let anyone set up their iOS device as a new device, but still elect to 
keep their messages.

Currently, new messages can be pushed to all your devices similar to how photo 
stream used to work, but old conversations aren’t stored in iCloud in the 
commercially released software, and deletions won’t sync across devices.

Grant Hardy


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

iMessage syncing via iCloud is available, it actually annoys me a bit because 
now each time you want to delete a text message you get a confirmation prompt:
Would you like to delete this conversation? This conversation will be deleted 
from all your devices.
You then have to tap "Yes" if you want to delete it.
I hope at some point Apple will allow users to decide if they want this prompt 
or not just as in Mail you can go into the settings and say if you want to be 
prompted each time to confirm if you want to delete an email or not.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

HI Sieghard

Is the new imessage function available in the beta version, because apparently 
they pulled it back in the update, the function is nolonger included but I am 
no betatester, I heard positive rumors that imessage syncing was available in 
ios11.3 but Apple took it away.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of M.
Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
watchOS.
by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT

Apple
Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad Air 
and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
supported regions.
With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since iOS
11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling on 
older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, adds 
the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in Messages, and 
lets users access their personal health records in the Health app.
Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
users.
Battery Health

You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose a 
risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple lists 
this as a beta feature.
There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
"Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns with 
iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more detail. It 
will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
Apple explains it this way:
This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance Capacity." 
If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to low battery 
health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently supporting normal peak 
performance." However, if your battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum 

RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Does anybody know if it is possible to completely erase and set up an Apple 
Watch again like you can do with an iPhone?
I bought a seocond generation Apple Watch in November 2016, so it's 1.5 years 
old. I find that I am often furstrated by how slow the thing is when I want to, 
for example, open the workout app or other apps. Then of course there is the 
issue that sometimes the thing auto locks before you hardly can do anything and 
I really hope Apple will fix that one of these days. I thought maybe wiping it 
out and setting it up again as a new device might help.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of SCOTT 
VAN GORP
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

watchOS also had an update. For those running the beta, you do need to 
uninstall the profile in order to get it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> There was an update, today for Mac OS.  And, it was listed under OS Updates, 
> but it was iTunes, only.  
> 
> Again, I could be mistaken so I'll check again, later tonight.
> 
> After updating your Mac, did it restart and did the process take longer than 
> 10 minutes?  If so, then it was an OS update,  If not, then it was simply 
> updating iTunes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Harry Bell
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> I had to check a couple of times and even restart my 2009 MacBook to 
> get it to find the latest macOS update! The old machine is now updated 
> and still tottering along (though voiceover is a bit choppy or 
> disappears at times...) Harry
> 
>> On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not 
>> one that I could find.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of matthew dyer
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
>> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
>>> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
>>> to tvOS and watchOS.
>>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>>> 
>>> Apple
>>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including 
>>> the iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
>>> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
>>> for download now in supported regions.
>>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>>> since iOS
>>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
>>> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
>>> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support 
>>> reps from companies in Messages, and lets users access their 
>>> personal health records in the Health app.
>>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the 
>>> Apple TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of 
>>> these updates adds for users.
>>> Battery Health
>>> 
>>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" 
>>> in the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
>>> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the 
>>> point that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting 
>>> from voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
>>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
>>> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
>>> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
>>> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
>>> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
>>> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
>>> Apple explains it this way:
>>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
>>> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected 
>>> shutdown due to low battery health, it will simply say: 

Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[SCOTT VAN GORP]

watchOS also had an update. For those running the beta, you do need to 
uninstall the profile in order to get it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> There was an update, today for Mac OS.  And, it was listed under OS Updates, 
> but it was iTunes, only.  
> 
> Again, I could be mistaken so I'll check again, later tonight.
> 
> After updating your Mac, did it restart and did the process take longer than 
> 10 minutes?  If so, then it was an OS update,  If not, then it was simply 
> updating iTunes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> I had to check a couple of times and even restart my 2009 MacBook to get it 
> to find the latest macOS update! The old machine is now updated and still 
> tottering along (though voiceover is a bit choppy or disappears at times...) 
> Harry
> 
>> On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not 
>> one that I could find.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of matthew dyer
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
>> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
>>> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
>>> to tvOS and watchOS.
>>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>>> 
>>> Apple
>>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including 
>>> the iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
>>> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
>>> for download now in supported regions.
>>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>>> since iOS
>>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
>>> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
>>> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support 
>>> reps from companies in Messages, and lets users access their personal 
>>> health records in the Health app.
>>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple 
>>> TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these 
>>> updates adds for users.
>>> Battery Health
>>> 
>>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in 
>>> the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
>>> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the 
>>> point that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting 
>>> from voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
>>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
>>> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
>>> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
>>> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
>>> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
>>> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
>>> Apple explains it this way:
>>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
>>> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown 
>>> due to low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is 
>>> currently supporting normal peak performance." However, if your 
>>> battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this 
>>> copy instead:
>>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the 
>>> battery was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance 
>>> management has been applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>>> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the 
>>> performance-management feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It 
>>> also tells you that you can upgrade the battery to solve this problem 
>>> completely:
>>> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized 
>>> Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and 
>>> capacity.
>>> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
>>> experiences an 

RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, forgot, Alexa can also play your Audible books on the Echo, I would just 
say "Alexa, play Typhoon on Audible" (just an example of a book I recently 
read) and it can read your Kindle books as well if you have any.
It's TTS is very very good.

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Echo?

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is or 
does or whatever.  An app to do something with something else; all so vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of them 
saying Why!

Thanks, BobH. 

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RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[M. Taylor]

Hello Harry,

There was an update, today for Mac OS.  And, it was listed under OS Updates, 
but it was iTunes, only.  

Again, I could be mistaken so I'll check again, later tonight.

After updating your Mac, did it restart and did the process take longer than 10 
minutes?  If so, then it was an OS update,  If not, then it was simply updating 
iTunes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

I had to check a couple of times and even restart my 2009 MacBook to get it to 
find the latest macOS update! The old machine is now updated and still 
tottering along (though voiceover is a bit choppy or disappears at times...) 
Harry

> On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not 
> one that I could find.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of matthew dyer
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
>> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
>> to tvOS and watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including 
>> the iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
>> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
>> for download now in supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
>> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
>> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support 
>> reps from companies in Messages, and lets users access their personal 
>> health records in the Health app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple 
>> TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these 
>> updates adds for users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in 
>> the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
>> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the 
>> point that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting 
>> from voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
>> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
>> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
>> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
>> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
>> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
>> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown 
>> due to low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is 
>> currently supporting normal peak performance." However, if your 
>> battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this 
>> copy instead:
>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the 
>> battery was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance 
>> management has been applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the 
>> performance-management feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It 
>> also tells you that you can upgrade the battery to solve this problem 
>> completely:
>> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized 
>> Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and 
>> capacity.
>> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
>> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a 
>> maximum capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on 
>> unless you've run into the problem.
>> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to 
>> address a consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with 
>> users about the option to 

RE: Echo?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume this refers to the Amazon Echo smart speaker which works with Amazon's 
digital assistant Alexa.
Google has their line of google Home speakers which of course use the Google 
Assistant, in that respect Google is pretty boring, Apple has SIRI, Amazon has 
Alexa and Google has the "Google Assistant", very impersonal.
Anyhow, just as with the Google Home speaker line-up, there are a number of 
Echo speakers available. The most popular ones I think are probably the Echo 
Dot and the regular Echo. Both are round cylinders, about 3.3 inches in 
diameter and the Dot is only about 1.5 inches tall, a regular Echo is probably 
about 6 or 8 inches tall. The Dot also has a 3.5mm output jack which allows you 
to hook up larger speakers for better audio or you can connect it to a receiver 
or Sonos player. You use the word "Alexa" to get it to listen and then ask your 
question, it can set alarms, timers and do conversions as well as answer a 
bunch of questions about countries, people etc. You can also enable so-called 
"Skills", basically think of them as apps. We have the Philipps Hue light bulbs 
at home as well as a Netatmo weather station and Honeywell Lyric WiFi 
thermostat. I can ask Alexa to turn on the lights, ask the temperature or 
humidity of the Netatmo outside or inside modules or tell it to set the 
temperature to 21 degrees or whatever. Alexa can also tell all sorts of jokes 
like Knock Knock jokes, dinosaur jokes etc., she can sing songs, tell stories 
or poems, and as for timers the nice thing is that you can set multiple timers 
which I still can't believe SIRI can't do after being around for what, 6 and a 
half years? In the US/Canada and Mexico you can also make free phone calls via 
the Echo to any landline or cellular phone although I must say the quality is 
often disappointing. Also, if you have multiple Echos throughout the house of 
even one in a different location but on the same Amazon account you can use 
them like a hands free Intercom, when I'm in the bedroom and want to talk to my 
wife in the living room I can simply say "Alexa, drop in to the Living Room" 
and after a couple of seconds my wife hears a few beeps and then there is an 
open two-way line where you can just talk.

Regards,
SieghardI can simply say  

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:24 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Echo?

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is or 
does or whatever.  An app to do something with something else; all so vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of them 
saying Why!

Thanks, BobH. 

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RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks, Anita, that is indeed a bit different, my version said 15E5216A.
By now my wife updated her iPhone 6S to 11.3 and her version is the same as 
what you said, 15E216.
I deleted the beta profile and the 11.3 update showed up right away, it's done 
downloading it and the phone has already rebooted, should be done in 10 to 12 
minutes.

Thanks,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gadget 
Girl
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Hi.  The iOS 11.3 version number is: 
Version 11.3 (15E216) 

Regards, 


> On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Larry,
> 
> Usually the last beta is the same version as the public release. I am aware 
> of how you can delete the beta profile, but I don't really want to do this if 
> my version is the same as what everybody else got yesterday because then if I 
> want to redownload the next beta for iOS 11.3.1 I have to enroll again and 
> that is why I asked for somebody who was not on the public beta program and 
> who has already installed iOS 11.3 to post the full version number.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:18 AM
> To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> You need to remove the beta profile. After removing, reboot your phone and 
> then the update will appear.
> 
>>On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
>> beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
>> somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones 
>> since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
>> launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
>> watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad 
>> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
>> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
>> supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling 
>> on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, 
>> adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in 
>> Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health 
>> app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
>> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
>> users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
>> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
>> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose 
>> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple 
>> lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
>> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
>> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns 
>> with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more 
>> detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a 
>> percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
>> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to 
>> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently 
>> supporting normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to 
>> a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
>> unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
>> applied to help 

Echo?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

hi, often saw threads or comments about "Echo", can't remember  what this is or 
does or whatever.  An app to do something with 
something else; all so vague.
Enlightenment please,  hearing a lot more lately as popular without any of them 
saying Why!

Thanks, BobH. 

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RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mark,

It seems that if I delete a Message from my iPhone that it also goes away on my 
Apple Watch and if I reply to a text message with one of the short suggestions 
like "OK" or "Thanks" that that appears on my iPhone. I'll double check again, 
but I am pretty sure I noticed this and assume that is what iCloud syncing is 
all about.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Hello Sieghard,

While I completely agree with you regarding the Message deletion confirmation 
prompt, I see no evidence that iMessage synchronization is available in iOS 
11.3, commercially released, yesterday.

I suspect that when this feature goes live, it will prompt the user to enable 
it on each device.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

iMessage syncing via iCloud is available, it actually annoys me a bit because 
now each time you want to delete a text message you get a confirmation prompt:
Would you like to delete this conversation? This conversation will be deleted 
from all your devices.
You then have to tap "Yes" if you want to delete it.
I hope at some point Apple will allow users to decide if they want this prompt 
or not just as in Mail you can go into the settings and say if you want to be 
prompted each time to confirm if you want to delete an email or not.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

HI Sieghard

Is the new imessage function available in the beta version, because apparently 
they pulled it back in the update, the function is nolonger included but I am 
no betatester, I heard positive rumors that imessage syncing was available in 
ios11.3 but Apple took it away.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
watchOS.
by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT

Apple
Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad Air 
and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
supported regions.
With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since iOS
11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling on 
older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, adds 
the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in Messages, and 
lets users access their personal health records in the Health app.
Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
users.
Battery Health

You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose a 
risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple lists 
this as a beta feature.
There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
"Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns with 
iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more detail. It 
will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
Apple explains it this way:
This is a measure of battery capacity 

Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Harry Bell]

I had to check a couple of times and even restart my 2009 MacBook to get it to 
find the latest macOS update! The old machine is now updated and still 
tottering along (though voiceover is a bit choppy or disappears at times...)
Harry

> On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not 
> one that I could find.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> matthew dyer
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
>> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
>> to tvOS and watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the 
>> iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
>> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
>> for download now in supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
>> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
>> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support reps 
>> from companies in Messages, and lets users access their personal 
>> health records in the Health app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple 
>> TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these 
>> updates adds for users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in 
>> the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
>> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point 
>> that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from 
>> voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
>> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
>> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
>> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
>> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
>> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
>> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown 
>> due to low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is 
>> currently supporting normal peak performance." However, if your 
>> battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this 
>> copy instead:
>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery 
>> was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management 
>> has been applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the 
>> performance-management feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It 
>> also tells you that you can upgrade the battery to solve this problem 
>> completely:
>> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized 
>> Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and 
>> capacity.
>> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
>> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a 
>> maximum capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on 
>> unless you've run into the problem.
>> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to 
>> address a consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users 
>> about the option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the 
>> class-action lawsuits that have popped up in response to the 
>> performance management controversy that began last December when 
>> Reddit users and the dev behind benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed 
>> that iOS throttled performance on devices with underperforming batteries.
>> Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a 
>> new iPad feature called "charge management." The update notes say it 
>> "maintains battery health when iPad is connected to power for 
>> prolonged periods of time, such as when it is used in kiosks, 
>> point-of-sale systems, or stored in charging 

RE: how can you tell if you have the update and questions about the buttons in email and text messages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you go to Settings > General > Software Updates and it says “iOS 11.3, your 
software is up to date” then you know your phone is on iOS 11.3 which is the 
latest update.
You can also check in Settings > General > About, swipe down past the 
information about how many songs, photos and videos y ou have, past the iPhone 
capacity and free space and you get to the version. Again, it will give you the 
exact version, e.g. 11.2.6 or 11.3. There is no 11.3.1 update yet so it would 
just say 11.3.

The delete button is typically always near the lower right of the on-screen 
keyboard, at the very bottom right is the “Return” and above that and directly 
to the right of the letter M is the delete button.

The Send button in mail is at the very top right of the screen, in the Messages 
app it is to the right of the text field and just above the “P” on the keyboard.

It is always a good idea to check the very top left and very top right of the 
screen if you are looking for Send, Done or Save buttons (they are usually at 
the top right), “Cancel” or “Back” are usually at the top left.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how can you tell if you have the update and questions about the 
buttons in email and text messages

In one of our phones we find the update button, and when we tapped the button 
it didn't do anything. So can you check if your phone has been through the 
update? Yesterday I asked way too many questions in  an email, I have some 
trouble in both email messages and text messages  to find the send button, and 
also the delete button. If someone could give me a description of the screen. I 
know in other items as in searches the delete button is in the lower right hand 
 corner of the phone. Thanks for the answers to these questions.
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how can you tell if you have the update and questions about the buttons in email and text messages

[Arlene]

In one of our phones we find the update button, and when we tapped the button 
it didn't do anything. So can you check if your phone has been through the 
update? Yesterday I asked way too many questions in  an email, I have some 
trouble in both email messages and text messages  to find the send button, and 
also the delete button. If someone could give me a description of the screen. I 
know in other items as in searches the delete button is in the lower right hand 
 corner of the phone. Thanks for the answers to these questions.

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RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[M. Taylor]

Matthew, I just checked and there is no new update to Mac OS, at least not one 
that I could find.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.

Matthew



> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
> to tvOS and watchOS.
> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
> 
> Apple
> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the 
> iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
> for download now in supported regions.
> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
> since iOS
> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support reps 
> from companies in Messages, and lets users access their personal 
> health records in the Health app.
> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple 
> TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these 
> updates adds for users.
> Battery Health
> 
> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in 
> the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point 
> that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from 
> voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
> Apple explains it this way:
> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown 
> due to low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is 
> currently supporting normal peak performance." However, if your 
> battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this 
> copy instead:
> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery 
> was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management 
> has been applied to help prevent this from happening again.
> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the 
> performance-management feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It 
> also tells you that you can upgrade the battery to solve this problem 
> completely:
> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized 
> Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and 
> capacity.
> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a 
> maximum capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on 
> unless you've run into the problem.
> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to 
> address a consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users 
> about the option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the 
> class-action lawsuits that have popped up in response to the 
> performance management controversy that began last December when 
> Reddit users and the dev behind benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed 
> that iOS throttled performance on devices with underperforming batteries.
> Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a 
> new iPad feature called "charge management." The update notes say it 
> "maintains battery health when iPad is connected to power for 
> prolonged periods of time, such as when it is used in kiosks, 
> point-of-sale systems, or stored in charging carts."
> 
> ARKit 1.5
> ARKit is Apple's augmented reality application programming interface. 
> Apple introduced ARKit at its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) last 
> year.
> The framework handles some of the lower-level heavy lifting for 
> augmented reality so developers can focus on customization of its 
> experiences and on content.
> Previously, ARKit could only accurately place objects on flat, 

RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard,

While I completely agree with you regarding the Message deletion confirmation 
prompt, I see no evidence that iMessage synchronization is available in iOS 
11.3, commercially released, yesterday.

I suspect that when this feature goes live, it will prompt the user to enable 
it on each device.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

iMessage syncing via iCloud is available, it actually annoys me a bit because 
now each time you want to delete a text message you get a confirmation prompt:
Would you like to delete this conversation? This conversation will be deleted 
from all your devices.
You then have to tap "Yes" if you want to delete it.
I hope at some point Apple will allow users to decide if they want this prompt 
or not just as in Mail you can go into the settings and say if you want to be 
prompted each time to confirm if you want to delete an email or not.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

HI Sieghard

Is the new imessage function available in the beta version, because apparently 
they pulled it back in the update, the function is nolonger included but I am 
no betatester, I heard positive rumors that imessage syncing was available in 
ios11.3 but Apple took it away.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.


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Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
watchOS.
by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT

Apple
Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad Air 
and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
supported regions.
With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since iOS
11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling on 
older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, adds 
the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in Messages, and 
lets users access their personal health records in the Health app.
Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
users.
Battery Health

You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose a 
risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple lists 
this as a beta feature.
There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
"Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns with 
iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more detail. It 
will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
Apple explains it this way:
This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance Capacity." 
If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to low battery 
health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently supporting normal peak 
performance." However, if your battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum 
capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
applied to help prevent this 

Re: couple of IPhone questions if I may!

[Janet Bell]

Hi Jo, this may be nothing but with a magic keyboard like most others you 
have to check whether mav is on or off before you can put text in.  sorry if 
this is like teaching your mother to suck eggs but just thought I would say. 
Janet


-Original Message- 
From: Joe Paton

Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: couple of IPhone questions if I may!

Hi all,

First, we are running latest encarnation of IOS on an Iphone 7 english
uk as default language.
When the browser, safari, is sent to the mikesradioworld.com
website, The spoken output, is in a non-english language.
It sounds like chinese, but I can't be sure.

If the browser is sent to the BBC web site, it behaves.

How to prevent Voiceover changing languages, and why would you want it
to do that.

On another IOS device, there doesn't appear to be much text available on
mikes radio world site , but the language doesn[t change.

Next, is a magic keyboard problem.

The keyboard connects to the device, you can traverse the home screens,
and property sheets for say adding a contact, but when it comes to
entering alphabetics, into the text boxes, nothing.  Nada. boing, boing,
boing, but no characters in the edit box.  You can add them from the
on-screen keyboard, but not from the magic blue tooth device.

When I pair the magic blue tooth keyboard to e second phone, it works
fine, so I guess this is a phone fault or phone setting that needs to be
changed.

Thanks for reading.

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couple of IPhone questions if I may!

[Joe Paton]

Hi all,

First, we are running latest encarnation of IOS on an Iphone 7 english
uk as default language.
When the browser, safari, is sent to the mikesradioworld.com
website, The spoken output, is in a non-english language.
It sounds like chinese, but I can't be sure.

If the browser is sent to the BBC web site, it behaves.

How to prevent Voiceover changing languages, and why would you want it
to do that.

On another IOS device, there doesn't appear to be much text available on
mikes radio world site , but the language doesn[t change.

Next, is a magic keyboard problem.

The keyboard connects to the device, you can traverse the home screens,
and property sheets for say adding a contact, but when it comes to
entering alphabetics, into the text boxes, nothing.  Nada. boing, boing,
boing, but no characters in the edit box.  You can add them from the
on-screen keyboard, but not from the magic blue tooth device.

When I pair the magic blue tooth keyboard to e second phone, it works
fine, so I guess this is a phone fault or phone setting that needs to be
changed.

Thanks for reading.

Really hammering down with rain, in the southeast of england.










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Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and soundscapes

[Arlene]

Thank you, that's pretty much what we found as well. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:10 AM
  Subject: RE: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes


  As far as I know the iPad does not have a preinstalled Compass app and the 
same goes for Calculator.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes

   

  Richard, we did have  a gps  ap on the ipad mini,, the gps worked but it was 
hadd supported so we took it off.   The ipad mini is on t-mobile network and  
the wifi is on.

   

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From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:58 PM

Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes

 

If it is just a WiFi iPad, there is no compass. The compass requires a GPS 
chip, which is not in the WiFi only devices. 

Richard

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Mar 28, 2018, at 7:47 PM, Arlene  wrote:

  Today we found a compass in our se phones. Though there wasn't a compass 
already in the ipad mini. We tried looking for one, though we did come across a 
compass for the iphone x. So if anyone knows of a compass for the ipad mini 
please let me know. It's a 128 gig ipad, it's about 7.8 inches. If anyone could 
tell me where to go to find  out what version of ipad mini, I could be more 
specific with the ipad mini we have. What experiences have you had with store 
apps? With all the informative information about products, where the products 
are located in the store and the prices, can you read all those details? Are 
there any store apps to stay away from? Some of the stores we go to are 
walmart, sams, walgreens, cvs, office depot, home depot, lows, michaels and 
hobby lobby. While I could manage to write some email messages and text 
messages, I can't do something so very simple with all the ease in the world 
due to me still getting use to navigating with the screen.When I'm either 
writing an email or writing a text message, I can't always locate the send 
button and the delete button. Also I'm not doing well yet with going through 
text messages and emails, including deleting messages if I don't reply to it, 
or deleting a message after I reply to  the message.  It would help if I had 
more of an idea where some of these buttons are located. I know it seems in 
many of the screens the delete button is on the right lower hand corner of the 
screen. The other day, I can't remember what I was in, either the email or the 
text messages, one of those had some of those important buttons on the right 
side of the screen. Yesterday we got soundscape,  after the tutorial, it seemed 
as if it didn't indicate that the tutorial was done, and it kept making the 
sound it makes. What's the best way with making a beacon? Thank  you for help 
with any of these things.

   

  Arlene

   

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Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and soundscapes

[Arlene]

Hi, Pam, we did ask siri to launch compass, but nothing happened, though we 
didn't think about the folders. Where would the utility folder be? Actually 
we did look around very well and didn't find compass so possibly it doesn't 
have it. thanks.
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From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes



Hi Arlene,

Have you checked to see if there is a utilities folder that may have the 
compass app in it?  Have you tried asking SIRI to launch compass?


Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Arlene [arlenes71...@earthlink.net]

Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes


Richard, we did have  a gps  ap on the ipad mini,, the gps worked but it was 
hadd supported so we took it off.   The ipad mini is on t-mobile network and 
the wifi is on.


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes


If it is just a WiFi iPad, there is no compass. The compass requires a GPS 
chip, which is not in the WiFi only devices.

Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
quieter.”


- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Mar 28, 2018, at 7:47 PM, Arlene 
> wrote:


Today we found a compass in our se phones. Though there wasn't a compass 
already in the ipad mini. We tried looking for one, though we did come 
across a compass for the iphone x. So if anyone knows of a compass for the 
ipad mini please let me know. It's a 128 gig ipad, it's about 7.8 inches. If 
anyone could tell me where to go to find  out what version of ipad mini, I 
could be more specific with the ipad mini we have. What experiences have you 
had with store apps? With all the informative information about products, 
where the products are located in the store and the prices, can you read all 
those details? Are there any store apps to stay away from? Some of the 
stores we go to are walmart, sams, walgreens, cvs, office depot, home depot, 
lows, michaels and hobby lobby. While I could manage to write some email 
messages and text messages, I can't do something so very simple with all the 
ease in the world due to me still getting use to navigating with the 
screen.When I'm either writing an email or writing a text message, I can't 
always locate the send button and the delete button. Also I'm not doing well 
yet with going through text messages and emails, including deleting messages 
if I don't reply to it, or deleting a message after I reply to  the message. 
It would help if I had more of an idea where some of these buttons are 
located. I know it seems in many of the screens the delete button is on the 
right lower hand corner of the screen. The other day, I can't remember what 
I was in, either the email or the text messages, one of those had some of 
those important buttons on the right side of the screen. Yesterday we got 
soundscape,  after the tutorial, it seemed as if it didn't indicate that the 
tutorial was done, and it kept making the sound it makes. What's the best 
way with making a beacon? Thank  you for help with any of these things.


Arlene


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Re: Heart rate monitors

[Andy Baracco]

I wasn't exactly sure of how Terri wanted to use the info derived, but I'm 
glad that the app works for her.


Andy

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From: "Arlene" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Heart rate monitors


That's really great to know, Terri, how the one Andy told us about was 
just what you needed now.
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From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:09 AM
Subject: Heart rate monitors



Hello everyone,


Thank you to those of you who responded, concerning my questions
regarding a heart rate monitor. I was able to use the 1 that Andy
suggested. That might not be a permanent answer. But it worked for what
I needed.


I was basically trying to find out if a certain medication was raising
my heart rate, like I was thinking it was. So again, I do appreciate the
help.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[matthew dyer]

Mac OS 10.13.4 also dropped according to apple.

Matthew



> On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first
> launched
> This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and watchOS.
> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
> 
> Apple
> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad
> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the
> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in
> supported regions.
> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since iOS
> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling
> on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality,
> adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in
> Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health
> app.
> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and
> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for
> users.
> Battery Health
> 
> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the
> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on
> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose
> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple
> lists this as a beta feature.
> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called
> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems
> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns
> with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more
> detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a
> percentage.
> Apple explains it this way:
> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower
> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance
> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to
> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently
> supporting normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to
> a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was
> unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been
> applied to help prevent this from happening again.
> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management
> feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can
> upgrade the battery to solve this problem completely:
> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service
> Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first
> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum
> capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on unless you've run
> into the problem.
> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to address a
> consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users about the
> option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the class-action
> lawsuits that have popped up in response to the performance management
> controversy that began last December when Reddit users and the dev behind
> benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed that iOS throttled performance on
> devices with underperforming batteries.
> Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a new
> iPad feature called "charge management." The update notes say it "maintains
> battery health when iPad is connected to power for prolonged periods of
> time, such as when it is used in kiosks, point-of-sale systems, or stored in
> charging carts."
> 
> ARKit 1.5
> ARKit is Apple's augmented reality application programming interface. Apple
> introduced ARKit at its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) last year.
> The framework handles some of the lower-level heavy lifting for augmented
> reality so developers can focus on customization of its experiences and on
> content.
> Previously, ARKit could only accurately place objects on flat, horizontal
> planes, limiting the range of applications developers could make. With ARKit
> 1.5, developers can now place objects on vertical planes like walls, and
> accuracy is improved when mapping objects onto surfaces that aren't
> completely flat.
> It also adds image-recognition capabilities. For example, an AR app could
> show a full-sized robot if a poster for an associated robot movie is seen by
> the phone's camera, or it could provide additional 

Re: MLB and Sonos

[Marie]

Sonos actually told me that MLB will not be streaming on the speakers this 
season but could not give me the reason.

From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 8:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: MLB and Sonos

Hi,
I’ve contacted and didn’t get very far either but do tweet at mlb about it 
daily just because I can. Last year it did finally appear once the season 
started but so far this year nothing doing sadly. Baseball sure did sound great 
on them when we could hear it.
Robin


From: Marie 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 10:55 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: MLB and Sonos

I am extremely disappointed that MLB will not be streaming on my Sonos speakers 
this season. The only response from Sonos is to contact MLB, which I have done. 
So far I have not received anything from MLB. Does anyone have any info on this?

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Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Gadget Girl]

Hi.  The iOS 11.3 version number is: 
Version 11.3 (15E216) 

Regards, 


> On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Larry,
> 
> Usually the last beta is the same version as the public release. I am aware 
> of how you can delete the beta profile, but I don't really want to do this if 
> my version is the same as what everybody else got yesterday because then if I 
> want to redownload the next beta for iOS 11.3.1 I have to enroll again and 
> that is why I asked for somebody who was not on the public beta program and 
> who has already installed iOS 11.3 to post the full version number.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:18 AM
> To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> You need to remove the beta profile. After removing, reboot your phone and 
> then the update will appear.
> 
>>On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
>> beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
>> somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
>> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
>> 
>> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
>> launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
>> watchOS.
>> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>> 
>> Apple
>> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad 
>> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
>> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
>> supported regions.
>> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
>> since iOS
>> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling 
>> on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, 
>> adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in 
>> Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health 
>> app.
>> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
>> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
>> users.
>> Battery Health
>> 
>> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
>> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
>> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
>> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose 
>> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple 
>> lists this as a beta feature.
>> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
>> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
>> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns 
>> with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more 
>> detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a 
>> percentage.
>> Apple explains it this way:
>> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
>> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
>> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
>> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to 
>> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently 
>> supporting normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to 
>> a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
>> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
>> unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
>> applied to help prevent this from happening again.
>> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management 
>> feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can 
>> upgrade the battery to solve this problem completely:
>> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service 
>> Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
>> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
>> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum 
>> capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on unless you've run 
>> into the problem.

RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Larry,

Usually the last beta is the same version as the public release. I am aware of 
how you can delete the beta profile, but I don't really want to do this if my 
version is the same as what everybody else got yesterday because then if I want 
to redownload the next beta for iOS 11.3.1 I have to enroll again and that is 
why I asked for somebody who was not on the public beta program and who has 
already installed iOS 11.3 to post the full version number.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Smith
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:18 AM
To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

You need to remove the beta profile. After removing, reboot your phone and then 
the update will appear.

>   On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
> beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
> somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
> iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
> launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
> watchOS.
> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
> 
> Apple
> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad 
> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
> supported regions.
> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
> since iOS
> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling on 
> older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, adds 
> the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in Messages, 
> and lets users access their personal health records in the Health app.
> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
> users.
> Battery Health
> 
> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose 
> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple lists 
> this as a beta feature.
> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns with 
> iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more detail. 
> It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
> Apple explains it this way:
> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to 
> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently supporting 
> normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to a 
> low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
> unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
> applied to help prevent this from happening again.
> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management 
> feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can 
> upgrade the battery to solve this problem completely:
> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service 
> Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first experiences 
> an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum capacity below 
> a certain value, and you can't turn it on unless you've run into the problem.
> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to address a 
> consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users about the option 
> to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the class-action lawsuits 
> that have popped up in response to 

RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Sieghard Weitzel]

iMessage syncing via iCloud is available, it actually annoys me a bit because 
now each time you want to delete a text message you get a confirmation prompt:
Would you like to delete this conversation? This conversation will be deleted 
from all your devices.
You then have to tap "Yes" if you want to delete it.
I hope at some point Apple will allow users to decide if they want this prompt 
or not just as in Mail you can go into the settings and say if you want to be 
prompted each time to confirm if you want to delete an email or not.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

HI Sieghard

Is the new imessage function available in the beta version, because apparently 
they pulled it back in the update, the function is nolonger included but I am 
no betatester, I heard positive rumors that imessage syncing was available in 
ios11.3 but Apple took it away.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
watchOS.
by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT

Apple
Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad Air 
and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
supported regions.
With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since iOS
11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling on 
older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, adds 
the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in Messages, and 
lets users access their personal health records in the Health app.
Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
users.
Battery Health

You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose a 
risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple lists 
this as a beta feature.
There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
"Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns with 
iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more detail. It 
will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
Apple explains it this way:
This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance Capacity." 
If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to low battery 
health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently supporting normal peak 
performance." However, if your battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum 
capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
applied to help prevent this from happening again.
Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management 
feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can upgrade 
the battery to solve this problem completely:
Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service 
Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first experiences 
an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum capacity below a 
certain value, and you can't turn it on unless you've run into the problem.
The note 

RE: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and soundscapes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As far as I know the iPad does not have a preinstalled Compass app and the same 
goes for Calculator.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes

Richard, we did have  a gps  ap on the ipad mini,, the gps worked but it was 
hadd supported so we took it off.   The ipad mini is on t-mobile network and  
the wifi is on.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes

If it is just a WiFi iPad, there is no compass. The compass requires a GPS 
chip, which is not in the WiFi only devices.
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Mar 28, 2018, at 7:47 PM, Arlene 
> wrote:
Today we found a compass in our se phones. Though there wasn't a compass 
already in the ipad mini. We tried looking for one, though we did come across a 
compass for the iphone x. So if anyone knows of a compass for the ipad mini 
please let me know. It's a 128 gig ipad, it's about 7.8 inches. If anyone could 
tell me where to go to find  out what version of ipad mini, I could be more 
specific with the ipad mini we have. What experiences have you had with store 
apps? With all the informative information about products, where the products 
are located in the store and the prices, can you read all those details? Are 
there any store apps to stay away from? Some of the stores we go to are 
walmart, sams, walgreens, cvs, office depot, home depot, lows, michaels and 
hobby lobby. While I could manage to write some email messages and text 
messages, I can't do something so very simple with all the ease in the world 
due to me still getting use to navigating with the screen.When I'm either 
writing an email or writing a text message, I can't always locate the send 
button and the delete button. Also I'm not doing well yet with going through 
text messages and emails, including deleting messages if I don't reply to it, 
or deleting a message after I reply to  the message.  It would help if I had 
more of an idea where some of these buttons are located. I know it seems in 
many of the screens the delete button is on the right lower hand corner of the 
screen. The other day, I can't remember what I was in, either the email or the 
text messages, one of those had some of those important buttons on the right 
side of the screen. Yesterday we got soundscape,  after the tutorial, it seemed 
as if it didn't indicate that the tutorial was done, and it kept making the 
sound it makes. What's the best way with making a beacon? Thank  you for help 
with any of these things.

Arlene

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Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Davy Cuppens]

HI Sieghard

Is the new imessage function available in the beta version, because 
apparently they pulled it back in the update, the function is nolonger 
included but I am no betatester, I heard positive rumors that imessage 
syncing was available in ios11.3 but Apple took it away.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since 
iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica


I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica


Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
watchOS.

by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT

Apple
Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad 
Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
supported regions.

With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since iOS
11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling 
on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, 
adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in 
Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health 
app.
Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
users.

Battery Health

You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose 
a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple 
lists this as a beta feature.
There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
"Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns 
with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more 
detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a 
percentage.

Apple explains it this way:
This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to 
low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently 
supporting normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to 
a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
applied to help prevent this from happening again.
Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management 
feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can 
upgrade the battery to solve this problem completely:
Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service 
Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum 
capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on unless you've run 
into the problem.
The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to address a 
consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users about the 
option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the class-action 
lawsuits that have popped up in response to the performance management 
controversy that began last December when Reddit users and the dev behind 
benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed that iOS throttled performance on 
devices with underperforming batteries.
Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a new 
iPad feature called "charge management." The update notes say it "maintains 
battery health when iPad is connected to power for prolonged periods of 
time, such as when it is used in kiosks, point-of-sale systems, or stored in 
charging carts."


ARKit 1.5
ARKit is Apple's augmented 

Re: Help with One Password

[Wayne Merritt]

Sorry for the late reply. I suppose one advantage is you can put
different kinds of information in 1Password, such as log-in
information, secure notes, credit/debit cards, and identities. If you
get the in-app purchase for 1Password then you get a whole list of
other information. Whereas iCloud KeyChain only tracks account
usernames and passwords. 1Password is free to try so if you find that
you don't like it then you can always go back to iCloud Keychain.
However, 1Password lets me keep all sorts of sensitive information in
one place. If I were to use Apple related apps, I would need two or
three apps to track the same information that 1Password keeps up with.
I still use iCloud Keychain too, but that wouldn't be the first time
I've kept the same information in multiple places.

Wayne

On 3/26/18, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> Wayne;
> What
> is the advantage of this program over the iCloud key chain?
>
> Thanks
> Anthony
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>
>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> In recent versions of 1Password, when looking at a list of passwords
>> or other information, if I want to reveal all of the information there
>> is usually a show details button that appears after you double tap on
>> the account or password that you want to see. When I double tap the
>> show details button, then I am able to view all information associated
>> with an entry.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 3/24/18, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>> Hi,,
>>> Have you tried to see if there is a reveal button / rotor action like
>>> there
>>> is to show a password? Philip, I don’t know of any tutorials but I will
>>> say
>>> 1Password’s very accessible with Vo.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Mar 24, 2018, at 11:50 AM, phillip tracy  wrote:

 Hi. Is there a tutorial detailing how this app works from a blind
 person's
 perspective? If so, could someone please direct me there? If not, would
 someone be willing to contact me off list to help me learn how to use
 and
 get the most out of this app? I read all the documentation, but with
 severe ADHD, I'm afraid I was unable to gain an understanding of how to
 use the app, and how it works. I'm really looking forward to being able
 to
 change my passwords monthly and never have to remember them again.

 You can email me off list at tracyp4...@me.com.

 Thanks in advance.

 Phillip Tracy
 Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 6:49 PM, Kimberly Samco  wrote:
>
> Thank you Robert,
>
> I am using an iPhone.  I hadn’t thought to reboot but now Ihave and it
> didn’t make any difference.  The issue is just with the cards I
> entered
> yesterday.  Yes, I have deleted them and re-entered the info and still
> it
> only shows me the expiration date.  As I said earlier, if I hit the
> edit
> button all of the info is there.  This makes no sense to me.
>
> Kim
>
>>> On Mar 23, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Robert Carter 
>>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kim,
>>
>> I just tried looking at my credit cards in 1password on both the
>> iPhone
>> X and the Mac. In both cases, VoiceOver reads all of the information
>> to
>> me as expected.
>>
>> I am guessing that you are working with 1password on iOS? I would
>> suggest closing it out in the app switcher and reopening it to see if
>> the problem clears up. You also might restart your iOS device and see
>> if
>> that helps. It is all working normally for me.
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 23, 2018, at 1:06 PM, Kimberly Samco  wrote:
>>>
>>> I love this app and it has been trouble free until now.  I added2
>>> new
>>> credit cards but when I go to access the info only the expiration
>>> date
>>> shows unless I hit the “edit” button and then all the info shows up.
>>> Any ideas as what’s going on?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kim
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Re: Question for all fellow Dice World Players!.

[Mama Peach]

Have you guys actually used the contact us portion inside the app to contact 
the developer? If not, you might want to do that. To find the contact us 
section, go to help and tutorials, use the picker item to flick up with one 
finger until you land on Contact Us, then flick once to the right and double 
tap on the Select button. Now double tap on the Submit Suggestion button, this 
will open up a new email. Give a thorough description of what the issues are 
that you are having and then send it. Doing it this way let’s the developer 
know what version of the app that you are having issues with. I know Nick is 
really working hard on another app that he has so he might not get back to you 
immediately, but don’t give up, just keep trying.

From: Cheryl LeFurgey 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Question for all fellow Dice World Players!.


  I emailed the developer a while back but got no answer.
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RE: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and soundscapes

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Arlene,

Have you checked to see if there is a utilities folder that may have the 
compass app in it?  Have you tried asking SIRI to launch compass?

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Arlene 
[arlenes71...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes

Richard, we did have  a gps  ap on the ipad mini,, the gps worked but it was 
hadd supported so we took it off.   The ipad mini is on t-mobile network and  
the wifi is on.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes

If it is just a WiFi iPad, there is no compass. The compass requires a GPS 
chip, which is not in the WiFi only devices.
Richard




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- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Mar 28, 2018, at 7:47 PM, Arlene 
> wrote:

Today we found a compass in our se phones. Though there wasn't a compass 
already in the ipad mini. We tried looking for one, though we did come across a 
compass for the iphone x. So if anyone knows of a compass for the ipad mini 
please let me know. It's a 128 gig ipad, it's about 7.8 inches. If anyone could 
tell me where to go to find  out what version of ipad mini, I could be more 
specific with the ipad mini we have. What experiences have you had with store 
apps? With all the informative information about products, where the products 
are located in the store and the prices, can you read all those details? Are 
there any store apps to stay away from? Some of the stores we go to are 
walmart, sams, walgreens, cvs, office depot, home depot, lows, michaels and 
hobby lobby. While I could manage to write some email messages and text 
messages, I can't do something so very simple with all the ease in the world 
due to me still getting use to navigating with the screen.When I'm either 
writing an email or writing a text message, I can't always locate the send 
button and the delete button. Also I'm not doing well yet with going through 
text messages and emails, including deleting messages if I don't reply to it, 
or deleting a message after I reply to  the message.  It would help if I had 
more of an idea where some of these buttons are located. I know it seems in 
many of the screens the delete button is on the right lower hand corner of the 
screen. The other day, I can't remember what I was in, either the email or the 
text messages, one of those had some of those important buttons on the right 
side of the screen. Yesterday we got soundscape,  after the tutorial, it seemed 
as if it didn't indicate that the tutorial was done, and it kept making the 
sound it makes. What's the best way with making a beacon? Thank  you for help 
with any of these things.

Arlene


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Re: Lyft Question

[Wayne Merritt]

Hi. I've used both Uber and Lyft. Lyft seems to be cheaper over time
and does not have as many surge pricing times as Uber does, where the
price is raised due to high demand of other riders. If you have promos
or discounts on your Lyft account, the price you see is the before
discounted price. For instance, if I have a 50% discount on my
account, and I see an $8 price, then that is the before discount price
and my actual price would be $4. Prices tend to fluctuate a little,
but that is how Lyft is supposed to work I believe. For Uber, the
price you see is the after discount price, so in the prior example I
would see the $4 price before making my trip request. I haven't gotten
a discount from either Uber or Lyft in quite a while. There was a time
when I got discounts once a week from one or both services. I think
discounts you get depend on how much you use their services.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 3/27/18, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Good Afternoon
>
>
>
> A quick follow up question. When you look up a price and they are running a
> special is the quoted price the after discount price? I just looked up the
> rate for both Uber and Lyft to my local commuter rail station and Lyft was
> literally almost 2.00 more but if this is the post discount price. Lyft will
> not be considered for my upcoming trips.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda
> Ingraham
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lyft Question
>
>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
>
>
> I only use Lyft. The fares do fluctuate a little between peak and non-peak
> times. My experience has been the fluctuation is related to the time of day
> you are traveling as opposed to giving riders a promotion, then raising the
> prices.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> Lynda
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of joediner...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lyft Question
>
>
>
> Good Morning Folks
>
>
>
> A couple of Lyft related questions for those who use Lyft and even better
> yet both Lyft and Uber. First question is that Lyft often do discounts do
> you notice that a particular fare that is normally a certain price suddenly
> goes up during those promotions?  Second do you find that either one of
> these tends to be cheaper than the other or do you find them pretty much
> par.  I have a need to use ride share for approximately a week while my wife
> is in Europe and I rarely use ride share so just pondering my options as
> Lyft is about to have a discount starting on the first of the month which
> just happens to be when I need use of ride share. Any insight would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
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Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and soundscapes

[Richard Turner]

Arlene,
In that case, I would call Apple Accessibility and find out if there is 
supposed to be a compass, etc.
877-204-3930 assuming you are in the US.
HTH,
Richard




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On Mar 29, 2018, at 11:34 PM, Arlene 
> wrote:

Richard, we did have  a gps  ap on the ipad mini,, the gps worked but it was 
hadd supported so we took it off.   The ipad mini is on t-mobile network and  
the wifi is on.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes

If it is just a WiFi iPad, there is no compass. The compass requires a GPS 
chip, which is not in the WiFi only devices.
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Mar 28, 2018, at 7:47 PM, Arlene 
> wrote:

Today we found a compass in our se phones. Though there wasn't a compass 
already in the ipad mini. We tried looking for one, though we did come across a 
compass for the iphone x. So if anyone knows of a compass for the ipad mini 
please let me know. It's a 128 gig ipad, it's about 7.8 inches. If anyone could 
tell me where to go to find  out what version of ipad mini, I could be more 
specific with the ipad mini we have. What experiences have you had with store 
apps? With all the informative information about products, where the products 
are located in the store and the prices, can you read all those details? Are 
there any store apps to stay away from? Some of the stores we go to are 
walmart, sams, walgreens, cvs, office depot, home depot, lows, michaels and 
hobby lobby. While I could manage to write some email messages and text 
messages, I can't do something so very simple with all the ease in the world 
due to me still getting use to navigating with the screen.When I'm either 
writing an email or writing a text message, I can't always locate the send 
button and the delete button. Also I'm not doing well yet with going through 
text messages and emails, including deleting messages if I don't reply to it, 
or deleting a message after I reply to  the message.  It would help if I had 
more of an idea where some of these buttons are located. I know it seems in 
many of the screens the delete button is on the right lower hand corner of the 
screen. The other day, I can't remember what I was in, either the email or the 
text messages, one of those had some of those important buttons on the right 
side of the screen. Yesterday we got soundscape,  after the tutorial, it seemed 
as if it didn't indicate that the tutorial was done, and it kept making the 
sound it makes. What's the best way with making a beacon? Thank  you for help 
with any of these things.

Arlene


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Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Larry Smith]

You need to remove the beta profile. After removing, reboot your phone and then 
the update will appear.

>   On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I am on the public beta and I had no update. Therefore I assume that public 
> beta 6 from almost 2 weeks ago is the same as this public release? Could 
> somebody confirm the actual built? Mine is 15E5216A.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
> first launched, Ars Technica
> 
> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first 
> launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and 
> watchOS.
> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
> 
> Apple
> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad 
> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the 
> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in 
> supported regions.
> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since iOS
> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling on 
> older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality, adds 
> the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in Messages, 
> and lets users access their personal health records in the Health app.
> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and 
> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for 
> users.
> Battery Health
> 
> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the 
> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on 
> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose 
> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple lists 
> this as a beta feature.
> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called 
> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems 
> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns with 
> iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more detail. 
> It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
> Apple explains it this way:
> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower 
> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to 
> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently supporting 
> normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to a 
> low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was 
> unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been 
> applied to help prevent this from happening again.
> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management 
> feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can 
> upgrade the battery to solve this problem completely:
> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service 
> Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first experiences 
> an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum capacity below 
> a certain value, and you can't turn it on unless you've run into the problem.
> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to address a 
> consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users about the option 
> to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the class-action lawsuits 
> that have popped up in response to the performance management controversy 
> that began last December when Reddit users and the dev behind benchmarking 
> app Geekbench confirmed that iOS throttled performance on devices with 
> underperforming batteries.
> Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a new 
> iPad feature called "charge management." The update notes say it "maintains 
> battery health when iPad is connected to power for prolonged periods of time, 
> such as when it is used in kiosks, point-of-sale systems, or stored in 
> charging carts."
> 
> ARKit 1.5
> ARKit is Apple's augmented reality application programming interface. Apple 
> introduced ARKit at its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) last year.
> The framework handles some of the lower-level heavy lifting for augmented 
> 

Re: IPad mail: taking you back to the message lift

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Someone else said - list of msgs in column on left, and main msg area in rest 
of screen to the right.  Think I said that.  I didn't 
know about the full screen button.  I believe you can use iPad in portrait and 
have mailer work like on a phone.

BobH.

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel McGee" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: IPad mail: taking you back to the message lift


Hi bob, can you explain by what you mean by split screen and if there are 
different modes you can put the iPad into when viewing 
email with the mail app.

Thanking you in advance for any information you may provide.

> On 30 Mar 2018, at 07:23, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
>
> Depends on what mode you have the mailer.  Mine has always been split screen, 
> so when I'm done with the msg, I just take finger 
> back
> to the msg list down the left side.  Worthy of note that it still holds focus 
> of the msg you were just reading.
>
> BobH.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Daniel McGee" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:20 AM
> Subject: IPad mail: taking you back to the message lift
>
>
> Hello everyone
>
> When using the iPad and I'm viewing a message, why doesn't the VoiceOver 
> scrub gesture take you back to the message list?
>
> I hope that makes sense
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Re: IPad mail: taking you back to the message lift

[Daniel McGee]

Hi bob, can you explain by what you mean by split screen and if there are 
different modes you can put the iPad into when viewing email with the mail app. 

Thanking you in advance for any information you may provide. 

> On 30 Mar 2018, at 07:23, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Depends on what mode you have the mailer.  Mine has always been split screen, 
> so when I'm done with the msg, I just take finger back 
> to the msg list down the left side.  Worthy of note that it still holds focus 
> of the msg you were just reading.
> 
> BobH.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Daniel McGee" 
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> Subject: IPad mail: taking you back to the message lift
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> When using the iPad and I'm viewing a message, why doesn't the VoiceOver 
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Re: Heart rate monitors

[Arlene]

That's really great to know, Terri, how the one Andy told us about was just 
what you needed now.
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From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:09 AM
Subject: Heart rate monitors



Hello everyone,


Thank you to those of you who responded, concerning my questions
regarding a heart rate monitor. I was able to use the 1 that Andy
suggested. That might not be a permanent answer. But it worked for what
I needed.


I was basically trying to find out if a certain medication was raising
my heart rate, like I was thinking it was. So again, I do appreciate the
help.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and soundscapes

[Arlene]

Richard, we did have  a gps  ap on the ipad mini,, the gps worked but it was 
hadd supported so we took it off.   The ipad mini is on t-mobile network and  
the wifi is on.

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  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:58 PM
  Subject: Re: compass, store apps and writing emails and text messages and 
soundscapes


  If it is just a WiFi iPad, there is no compass. The compass requires a GPS 
chip, which is not in the WiFi only devices. 
  Richard





  “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

  - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


  On Mar 28, 2018, at 7:47 PM, Arlene  wrote:


Today we found a compass in our se phones. Though there wasn't a compass 
already in the ipad mini. We tried looking for one, though we did come across a 
compass for the iphone x. So if anyone knows of a compass for the ipad mini 
please let me know. It's a 128 gig ipad, it's about 7.8 inches. If anyone could 
tell me where to go to find  out what version of ipad mini, I could be more 
specific with the ipad mini we have. What experiences have you had with store 
apps? With all the informative information about products, where the products 
are located in the store and the prices, can you read all those details? Are 
there any store apps to stay away from? Some of the stores we go to are 
walmart, sams, walgreens, cvs, office depot, home depot, lows, michaels and 
hobby lobby. While I could manage to write some email messages and text 
messages, I can't do something so very simple with all the ease in the world 
due to me still getting use to navigating with the screen.When I'm either 
writing an email or writing a text message, I can't always locate the send 
button and the delete button. Also I'm not doing well yet with going through 
text messages and emails, including deleting messages if I don't reply to it, 
or deleting a message after I reply to  the message.  It would help if I had 
more of an idea where some of these buttons are located. I know it seems in 
many of the screens the delete button is on the right lower hand corner of the 
screen. The other day, I can't remember what I was in, either the email or the 
text messages, one of those had some of those important buttons on the right 
side of the screen. Yesterday we got soundscape,  after the tutorial, it seemed 
as if it didn't indicate that the tutorial was done, and it kept making the 
sound it makes. What's the best way with making a beacon? Thank  you for help 
with any of these things.

Arlene


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Re: IPad mail: taking you back to the message lift

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Depends on what mode you have the mailer.  Mine has always been split screen, 
so when I'm done with the msg, I just take finger back 
to the msg list down the left side.  Worthy of note that it still holds focus 
of the msg you were just reading.

BobH.

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To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 4:20 AM
Subject: IPad mail: taking you back to the message lift


Hello everyone

When using the iPad and I'm viewing a message, why doesn't the VoiceOver scrub 
gesture take you back to the message list?

I hope that makes sense

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Re: Speaker phone issue

[Arlene]

A cheapo flip phone as you call it are useful, and if some individuals for 
whatever reason fell more confortable with dialing a number on a button phone 
there's nothing wrong with that. Especially considering all the more, if they 
are just getting use to navigating the touch screen on  wit being their new 
iphone and you're rightit takes practice. Though until one has had  time to get 
use to it, in the meantime for times when they are out somewhere or other 
crucial times, for some individuals, dialing on a button phone and being able 
to do it quickly may be best. After all, everyone has their own ways of doing 
things and learning,. That practice time can vary to from person to person. I'm 
very confortable in dialing a phone number on a touch screen, though equally I 
still like dialing on a button phone, whether it be a cordless phone, a cell 
phone or wired phone. I've only been at this for about 3 months, finding 
buttons while being in a call, plus other details, answering a call waiting, 
then going back to the first caller, and making a 3 way call, finding all those 
important buttons will take more practice.
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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
  Subject: RE: Speaker phone issue


  As Richard suggested, just disable the automatic switching in Voiceover 
Settings > Audio.

  I don’t agree with the statement that the phone part of the iPhone is the 
worst part and I would never carry some cheapo flip phone just to make phone 
calls, this would mean having two cell contracts since I assume these people 
would still want to have service on the iPhone  for texting and so on.

  I might agree if somebody has physical issues which make it difficult to use 
the touch screen, but for people who have normal use of their hands I think 
it’s just practice.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Speaker phone issue

   

  The phone is the worst part of the iPhone.  i seldom take or make calls on my 
iPhone.  In fact, I know some folks who have a cheap cell phone that they use 
for calls and they use their iPhone for the other neat stuff you can do.

   

  Andy

   

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From: Richard 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: Speaker phone issue

 

Hi Marie,

I had this same problem with my iPhone SE, and IOS 9,and since I can't 
stand speaker phones anyway,

I went into settings and disabled the ability to use speaker phone.

and I use only headphones

You might want to give this a try!

In my opinion, the iPhone is the worst cell phone I have ever had,

but it is a great portable hand-held computer.

 

HTH,

Rick

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  From: Marie 

  To: viphone 

  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 3:43 PM

  Subject: Speaker phone issue

   

  I have an IPhone seven which goes to speaker phone when my ear is up 
against the phone and it is happening all too often. I have spoken to Apple and 
they are aware of the problem but have no solution. It is nerve racking and 
actually hurts my ear. Is there any possibility of lowering the volume of the 
speaker phone before it damages the only ear which still has hearing?

  Marie

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