RE: accessible bathroom scale suggestions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Nokia Body Plus, others use the one from Qardio and if you search the archives 
for “bathroom scale” others have been mentioned.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
info.michaelhing...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: accessible bathroom scale suggestions

Hi,

I would appreciate knowing of anyone who uses an accessible bathroom scale that 
communicates with an iPhone app. Thanks in advance.


Best Regards,


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RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[M. Taylor]

You don't sign your name so I have no idea as to whom to address my replies.

What is your first name?  

As this thread is getting a bit long, I'll close it by saying that your reply 
makes plenty of sense.

With the traditional Spectrum TV cable subscription, the DVR portion of the app 
serves as a remote DVR.  This is to say, one can manage DVR recordings, 
schedules, etc but can only play the content back on a set-top box.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
pdlloga...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Mark,

I have the Spectrum TV Choice package which is a streaming only package.  Gives 
me all my local channels and 10 Cable channels for like $25, and then on top of 
that I pay $5 for the DVR service...which allows me to record 50 programs.  I 
forgot that the Spectrum TV app also works for the traditional packages...but I 
don't know if you can add the DVR for that.  I'm actually surprised that you 
have the DVR tab, because from my understanding you should only have that tab 
if you have the streaming DVR.  They have only had this for about 3months.  
Think it was 4/23 or there abouts when they released it, and they still have 
some bugs to work out.



Sorry for any confusion.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Hi,

How do you get playback on the DVR to work from within the Spectrum TV app?  
From within the Spectrum TV app, I go to the DVR tab, I can see my recorded 
shows but the only option I get is to play them back, on my TV; this is to say, 
on my table-top cable box.  

Does one have to pay a fee in order to get DVR playback to work from within the 
Spectrum TV iOS app?

I have searched the web for the answer to this question but have had no luck, 
so far.  And as for calling Spectrum customer service?  No way.  They almost 
never give the correct answer to anything.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
pdlloga...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

The only time you can pause something is if you have added the DVR and are 
watching that via the DVR tab...there is a play/pause button that works well... 
 All other places you are watching live TV and hence can't stop it ..  Doesn't 
work like a traditional DVR.  I'm not really sure why they have that as part of 
the controls .. maybe they will add it at some point.

I have contacted them several times about issues .. and they have been pretty 
responsive...  

If you use the Apple TV app, you can speak a lot of the commands .. like 
changing the secondary audio .. skipping back and forth while watching a DVR 
recording and such...sometimes results aren't consistent, but they are getting 
better ...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Unfortunately, the two finger double tap does not work in this app, you must 
select a different tab, such as Guide or On Demand.
Even when you enable the video controls, there seems to be no pause or Stop 
button.
Audio description may be enabled, but no way to stop the video that I have 
found.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Gordon
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Does the two finger double tap work? This works for me in the direct tv app 
during streaming audio.

On 7/14/2019 11:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Jim and Everyone,
>
> When in the Live TV section of the Spectrum TV app for iOS, is there a 
> way to mute the streaming audio sound so that one can more easily hear 
> VoiceOver?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
> Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better
>
> I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations 
> that have been made regarding this app.
> However, I am experiencing something in 

RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[pdllogan77]

Mark,

I have the Spectrum TV Choice package which is a streaming only package.  Gives 
me all my local channels and 10 Cable channels for like $25, and then on top of 
that I pay $5 for the DVR service...which allows me to record 50 programs.  I 
forgot that the Spectrum TV app also works for the traditional packages...but I 
don't know if you can add the DVR for that.  I'm actually surprised that you 
have the DVR tab, because from my understanding you should only have that tab 
if you have the streaming DVR.  They have only had this for about 3months.  
Think it was 4/23 or there abouts when they released it, and they still have 
some bugs to work out.



Sorry for any confusion.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Hi,

How do you get playback on the DVR to work from within the Spectrum TV app?  
From within the Spectrum TV app, I go to the DVR tab, I can see my recorded 
shows but the only option I get is to play them back, on my TV; this is to say, 
on my table-top cable box.  

Does one have to pay a fee in order to get DVR playback to work from within the 
Spectrum TV iOS app?

I have searched the web for the answer to this question but have had no luck, 
so far.  And as for calling Spectrum customer service?  No way.  They almost 
never give the correct answer to anything.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
pdlloga...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

The only time you can pause something is if you have added the DVR and are 
watching that via the DVR tab...there is a play/pause button that works well... 
 All other places you are watching live TV and hence can't stop it ..  Doesn't 
work like a traditional DVR.  I'm not really sure why they have that as part of 
the controls .. maybe they will add it at some point.

I have contacted them several times about issues .. and they have been pretty 
responsive...  

If you use the Apple TV app, you can speak a lot of the commands .. like 
changing the secondary audio .. skipping back and forth while watching a DVR 
recording and such...sometimes results aren't consistent, but they are getting 
better ...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Unfortunately, the two finger double tap does not work in this app, you must 
select a different tab, such as Guide or On Demand.
Even when you enable the video controls, there seems to be no pause or Stop 
button.
Audio description may be enabled, but no way to stop the video that I have 
found.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Gordon
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Does the two finger double tap work? This works for me in the direct tv app 
during streaming audio.

On 7/14/2019 11:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Jim and Everyone,
>
> When in the Live TV section of the Spectrum TV app for iOS, is there a 
> way to mute the streaming audio sound so that one can more easily hear 
> VoiceOver?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
> Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better
>
> I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations 
> that have been made regarding this app.
> However, I am experiencing something in the Guide, which I am 
> wondering if anyone else is having the same issue.
> Select the Guide Tab, tap on any station, and then tap Network Schedule.
> I am hearing the following:
> Time:   Name of show.
> Time:  Name of show.
> In other words, the time of day for airing of the program is not 
> announced, only the word "time."
> Now, if you decide to record the show, then the start and end times 
> are announced, but that is a bit inconvenient.
> Otherwise, the app is quite useable and accessible.
> Thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
> Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

accessible bathroom scale suggestions

[info.michaelhingson]

Hi,

 

I would appreciate knowing of anyone who uses an accessible bathroom scale
that communicates with an iPhone app. Thanks in advance. 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

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RE: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

[Carolyn Arnold]

That was what I did with my RCA Pro tablet. It had a keyboard, and I never got 
good with it, far more accurate on my iPhone  screen typing. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Holly
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

Josh:

Maybe you could just open your 'notes' app that is already installed on your 
phone.  Just start a new note and practice typing.  Just delete it when you are 
finished. 

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Re: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

[Ryan Mann]

When you go into Notes, there will be a button that VoiceOver calls “new note.” 
 Double-tap on that.  It is at the bottom right corner of the screen.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  How do you begin a new note in the notes APP?  I opened
> the notes app and it had all kinds of ICLOUD junk in it.  I couldn't
> find a place to type a new note.
> 
>> On 7/15/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I have checked the correct settings for using touch ID for unlocking
>> my phone and getting APPS, but I still need to enter in my apple ID
>> and password to make this change take affect.  For some reason this
>> wasn't the case when I unlocked my Iphone 8 with touch ID.
>> 
>>> On 7/15/19, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> Hi Joshua,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I laud your efforts to practice on screen typing on your iPhone but you
>>> need
>>> to tweak your settings so you don't need to provide your Apple ID
>>> password
>>> every time you wish to acquire an app from the Apps Store. To do this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1.  Open the Settings app on your iPhone's main screen. Even though
>>> this
>>> feels like screen page 1, it is actually page 2 in the iOS world.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Double tap the Settings button or icon to open it.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Single finger swipe right through the various vertically stacked
>>> setting options until Touch ID and Passcode has focus and then double tap
>>> to
>>> open it.
>>> 
>>> 4.  An on screen numeric keypad opens in about the bottom third of
>>> the
>>> screen where you will have to enter your passcode assuming you've set one
>>> up.
>>> 
>>> 5.  At the top of the screen that opens is a heading labeled Use
>>> Touch
>>> ID for several items including iPhone Unlock and iTunes and Apps Store. I
>>> would strongly recommend that you turn both the unlock iPhone and iTunes
>>> and
>>> Apps Store switches on so that you can use Touch ID to both unlock your
>>> phone and to acquire apps without needing to provide your Apple ID
>>> password.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Granted, if you've not yet set up Touch ID, this settings screen is where
>>> you will have to provide your fingerprint in order to set this up. The
>>> process is Voiceover friendly and straightforward.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Once you've set this up, when you attempt to acquire an app in the Apps
>>> Store whether it costs or not, you should be able to place the applicable
>>> finger on your home button to approve the acquisition.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps and please let us know how you fare with the process.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:48 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi to all.  I am kind of enjoying my iPhone.  It is very cool when
>>> connected
>>> to WIFI to be able to get a new siri voice or voiceover voice.  However,
>>> I
>>> am not able to get any apps because of me having to type in my apple ID
>>> and
>>> password.  I can type on the phone after a fashion, but it is very slow.
>>> I
>>> also don't want to incorrectly type in my aapple ID password to many
>>> times
>>> in case I lock my phone again.
>>> 
>>> That wasn't fun.  Is there any way I can practice typing on the phone
>>> without actually doing anything like starting an already installed app.
>>> My
>>> typing mode on my phone will remain the standard voiceover method for now
>>> because I tried touch typing mode and it really messed me up.  Once I get
>>> some apps on my phone, I'll be in business.  I don't plan on using my
>>> phone
>>> for any kind of email checking.  Thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

[Holly Feel]

Hi Josh:
There should be a‘ new note‘ button near the bottom right corner of your 
screen. Just double tap on that button and you can start a new note.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  How do you begin a new note in the notes APP?  I opened
> the notes app and it had all kinds of ICLOUD junk in it.  I couldn't
> find a place to type a new note.
> 
>> On 7/15/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I have checked the correct settings for using touch ID for unlocking
>> my phone and getting APPS, but I still need to enter in my apple ID
>> and password to make this change take affect.  For some reason this
>> wasn't the case when I unlocked my Iphone 8 with touch ID.
>> 
>>> On 7/15/19, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> Hi Joshua,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I laud your efforts to practice on screen typing on your iPhone but you
>>> need
>>> to tweak your settings so you don't need to provide your Apple ID
>>> password
>>> every time you wish to acquire an app from the Apps Store. To do this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1.  Open the Settings app on your iPhone's main screen. Even though
>>> this
>>> feels like screen page 1, it is actually page 2 in the iOS world.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Double tap the Settings button or icon to open it.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Single finger swipe right through the various vertically stacked
>>> setting options until Touch ID and Passcode has focus and then double tap
>>> to
>>> open it.
>>> 
>>> 4.  An on screen numeric keypad opens in about the bottom third of
>>> the
>>> screen where you will have to enter your passcode assuming you've set one
>>> up.
>>> 
>>> 5.  At the top of the screen that opens is a heading labeled Use
>>> Touch
>>> ID for several items including iPhone Unlock and iTunes and Apps Store. I
>>> would strongly recommend that you turn both the unlock iPhone and iTunes
>>> and
>>> Apps Store switches on so that you can use Touch ID to both unlock your
>>> phone and to acquire apps without needing to provide your Apple ID
>>> password.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Granted, if you've not yet set up Touch ID, this settings screen is where
>>> you will have to provide your fingerprint in order to set this up. The
>>> process is Voiceover friendly and straightforward.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Once you've set this up, when you attempt to acquire an app in the Apps
>>> Store whether it costs or not, you should be able to place the applicable
>>> finger on your home button to approve the acquisition.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps and please let us know how you fare with the process.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:48 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi to all.  I am kind of enjoying my iPhone.  It is very cool when
>>> connected
>>> to WIFI to be able to get a new siri voice or voiceover voice.  However,
>>> I
>>> am not able to get any apps because of me having to type in my apple ID
>>> and
>>> password.  I can type on the phone after a fashion, but it is very slow.
>>> I
>>> also don't want to incorrectly type in my aapple ID password to many
>>> times
>>> in case I lock my phone again.
>>> 
>>> That wasn't fun.  Is there any way I can practice typing on the phone
>>> without actually doing anything like starting an already installed app.
>>> My
>>> typing mode on my phone will remain the standard voiceover method for now
>>> because I tried touch typing mode and it really messed me up.  Once I get
>>> some apps on my phone, I'll be in business.  I don't plan on using my
>>> phone
>>> for any kind of email checking.  Thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  How do you begin a new note in the notes APP?  I opened
the notes app and it had all kinds of ICLOUD junk in it.  I couldn't
find a place to type a new note.

On 7/15/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I have checked the correct settings for using touch ID for unlocking
> my phone and getting APPS, but I still need to enter in my apple ID
> and password to make this change take affect.  For some reason this
> wasn't the case when I unlocked my Iphone 8 with touch ID.
>
> On 7/15/19, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Hi Joshua,
>>
>>
>>
>> I laud your efforts to practice on screen typing on your iPhone but you
>> need
>> to tweak your settings so you don't need to provide your Apple ID
>> password
>> every time you wish to acquire an app from the Apps Store. To do this:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  Open the Settings app on your iPhone's main screen. Even though
>> this
>> feels like screen page 1, it is actually page 2 in the iOS world.
>>
>> 2.  Double tap the Settings button or icon to open it.
>>
>> 3.  Single finger swipe right through the various vertically stacked
>> setting options until Touch ID and Passcode has focus and then double tap
>> to
>> open it.
>>
>> 4.  An on screen numeric keypad opens in about the bottom third of
>> the
>> screen where you will have to enter your passcode assuming you've set one
>> up.
>>
>> 5.  At the top of the screen that opens is a heading labeled Use
>> Touch
>> ID for several items including iPhone Unlock and iTunes and Apps Store. I
>> would strongly recommend that you turn both the unlock iPhone and iTunes
>> and
>> Apps Store switches on so that you can use Touch ID to both unlock your
>> phone and to acquire apps without needing to provide your Apple ID
>> password.
>>
>>
>>
>> Granted, if you've not yet set up Touch ID, this settings screen is where
>> you will have to provide your fingerprint in order to set this up. The
>> process is Voiceover friendly and straightforward.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once you've set this up, when you attempt to acquire an app in the Apps
>> Store whether it costs or not, you should be able to place the applicable
>> finger on your home button to approve the acquisition.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps and please let us know how you fare with the process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi to all.  I am kind of enjoying my iPhone.  It is very cool when
>> connected
>> to WIFI to be able to get a new siri voice or voiceover voice.  However,
>> I
>> am not able to get any apps because of me having to type in my apple ID
>> and
>> password.  I can type on the phone after a fashion, but it is very slow.
>> I
>> also don't want to incorrectly type in my aapple ID password to many
>> times
>> in case I lock my phone again.
>>
>> That wasn't fun.  Is there any way I can practice typing on the phone
>> without actually doing anything like starting an already installed app.
>> My
>> typing mode on my phone will remain the standard voiceover method for now
>> because I tried touch typing mode and it really messed me up.  Once I get
>> some apps on my phone, I'll be in business.  I don't plan on using my
>> phone
>> for any kind of email checking.  Thanks for any help.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

[Arlene]

Mark, thank you, for explaining the smart keyboard further, with you 
describing  it in this message. It sounds very interesting. The smart 
keyboard must add more in someway, as a keyboard and other aspects with 
being more like a mac book air. The other person that answered some of my 
questions was Greg.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro


Hello Arlene,

I think your questions have been answered but, as I am getting a little 
confused as to who has answered, what, I'm just going to reply.



The Apple Smart Keyboard is an extremely thin hardware keyboard that acts as 
a cover for iPad.  This is to say, when it is placed on top of the display, 
the display turns off and the iPad locks.


Also, unlike a, quote, standard hardware Bluetooth keyboard, quote, it does 
not need to be charged, as there is no battery nor does it need to be paired 
to iPad in order to function.  The actual keyboard configuration mirrors 
that of a MacBook Air.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 4:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

Mark, There's nothing like, over amount of time, finding how well something 
is so useful and meets your needs, in this case your ipad. Also pointing out 
that your ipad and smart keyboard is in addition to your other technology, 
your phone and other computers. in other words you're not putting all your 
eggs in one basket. I have some questions, What is lte?
could you tell a little more about the smart keyboard, is it different from 
a bluetooth keyboard?  Does it work differently than a bluetooth keyboard?
Also would a smart keyboard be accessible for someone that relies on voice 
over that has no vision? Some of these questions may seem silly to ask, but 
since I don't have the answers, it's best to ask. What a treasure for you 
finding out all that you can do between your ipad and smart keyboard. Thank 
you for sharing.


Arlene
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:31 PM
Subject: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro



Hello All,

Okay, it's official, I absolutely love my iPad Pro.  I have owned it
almost
five months, now, and find that I am using it more and more, each day.  I
am
certain that my new found appreciation of the tablet has to do with the
Apple Smart Keyboard, an accessory that makes iPad feel more like a moble
desktop than a tablet.

What I am discovering is that I enjoy the fusion of the hardware keyboard
and the touch screen.  This makes what are sometimes challenging websites
for my PC and/or Mac computers much more easily accessible.

I find that I am using a much wider range of iOS apps on iPad than I ever
would have on iPhone because of the convenience of the Smart Keyboard.

For example, I now manage all of the administrative functions of this
group
on my iPad where as I used to only manage it via my PC.  Simply put, the
experience is better on iPad than on a desktop; iPhone is simply too small
and there is the issue of not having an easily accessible hardware
keyboard
for iPhone.  Yes, I have a Apple Bluetooth keybord for iPhone but I much
prefer to use the iPad Smart Keyboard.

For so many years I was of the opinion that the VoiceOver experience on
iPhone would/should be the same on iPad.  I was completely wrong on this
point.

I'm seriously thinking about activating the LTE feature on the tablet but
have not yet done so because I use it, primarily, at home.

I have decided not to install any financial / money management apps on it
because the iPhone works just fine and I do anticipate using iPad on a
public Wi-Fi sooner or later, assuming I do not activate LTE or make use
of
my tethering option.

Now I'm not suggesting that I would buy a tablet instead of a Mac or PC
computer; but I am saying that the tablet certainly augments both my web
browsing accessibility experience and my confidence in terms of accessing
various software applications and challenging websites.

In short, it is a wonderful addition to my other technology, not a
replacement for it.

As a ten-year iPHone user, it has taken a little time to get used to iPad
and its advantages and, in some cases, its disadvantages.

It will be interesting to discover how Apple will further increase the
distinction between iOS and iPad OS, this fall.

I had planned on installing the beta of iPad OS on my iPad Pro but, I am
enjoying using iPad so much that I find that I have no desire to test the
new OS until it is much more stable (smile).

Just thought I would post this for those of you who may be considering
iPad.
If you do decide to move forward with a purchase, I cannot stress enough
the
important, in my opinion, of also buying, if not the Apple Smart Keyboard,
then at 

Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[Mike B.]

Hi Mark,

That's what I suspected.  Thank you for the clarification.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
- Original Message - 
From: M. Taylor
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


Hello Mike,

The Spectrum Mobile app is for managing your Spectrum account; for example, 
seeing your account balance, adding or removing services, scheduling house 
calls, etc.

The Spectrum TV app is for actually enjoying the content of your 
subscription.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Hi Mark,

What are the differences between the Spectrum Mobile app for iOS and the 
Spectrum TV app for iOS?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
- Original Message - 
From: M. Taylor
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:59 PM
Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize that
Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my experience here in
the U.S.

1.
The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does not
work with VoiceOver.

2.
The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, also.
In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at how
well it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone and iPad
and both experiences are marvelous.

3.
Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users to
his account? In order to access various features to which the primary member
is subscribed? For no additional costs.

So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television cable
service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of your devices
so that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from within your home
and a subset of those stations when a way from home, you can authorize up to
5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their mobile
devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say limited because
these users cannot access your actual account in terms of receiving bills,
seeing your account number, etc.  They can only see the items that you allow
them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as merely an example.  Each of your
authorized limited users will have her own login user ID and Password,
separate and distinct from your own.  You can change their account access
permissions or remove them from your account at any time, at which point the
Spectrum TV app and any of its related features will be immediately
disabled.

The best part is that the entire process of creating and managing users, is
completely VoiceOver accessible in Safari for iOS.

Now I stipulate Safari because the more advanced features of Spectrum
account management can only be accomplished via a web browser, not the
mobile app.  The app, to dayte, simply does not allow for such advanced
account management.

So if you are a Spectrum Cable subscriber, and you have not yet done so,
create your Spectrum online account, sign in, download, and enjoy.

Mark


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Reparing a Screen

[Holly Jensen]

Oh goodness. I forgot to specifiy that it was my iMac and not my phone. Even 
so, I thought that was also the purpose of Apple Care on a computer. If not, I 
wouldn’t have bought it.

Holly

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RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[M. Taylor]

Hi,

How do you get playback on the DVR to work from within the Spectrum TV app?  
From within the Spectrum TV app, I go to the DVR tab, I can see my recorded 
shows but the only option I get is to play them back, on my TV; this is to say, 
on my table-top cable box.  

Does one have to pay a fee in order to get DVR playback to work from within the 
Spectrum TV iOS app?

I have searched the web for the answer to this question but have had no luck, 
so far.  And as for calling Spectrum customer service?  No way.  They almost 
never give the correct answer to anything.

Mark

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pdlloga...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

The only time you can pause something is if you have added the DVR and are 
watching that via the DVR tab...there is a play/pause button that works well... 
 All other places you are watching live TV and hence can't stop it ..  Doesn't 
work like a traditional DVR.  I'm not really sure why they have that as part of 
the controls .. maybe they will add it at some point.

I have contacted them several times about issues .. and they have been pretty 
responsive...  

If you use the Apple TV app, you can speak a lot of the commands .. like 
changing the secondary audio .. skipping back and forth while watching a DVR 
recording and such...sometimes results aren't consistent, but they are getting 
better ...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Unfortunately, the two finger double tap does not work in this app, you must 
select a different tab, such as Guide or On Demand.
Even when you enable the video controls, there seems to be no pause or Stop 
button.
Audio description may be enabled, but no way to stop the video that I have 
found.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Gordon
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Does the two finger double tap work? This works for me in the direct tv app 
during streaming audio.

On 7/14/2019 11:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Jim and Everyone,
>
> When in the Live TV section of the Spectrum TV app for iOS, is there a 
> way to mute the streaming audio sound so that one can more easily hear 
> VoiceOver?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
> Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better
>
> I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations 
> that have been made regarding this app.
> However, I am experiencing something in the Guide, which I am 
> wondering if anyone else is having the same issue.
> Select the Guide Tab, tap on any station, and then tap Network Schedule.
> I am hearing the following:
> Time:   Name of show.
> Time:  Name of show.
> In other words, the time of day for airing of the program is not 
> announced, only the word "time."
> Now, if you decide to record the show, then the start and end times 
> are announced, but that is a bit inconvenient.
> Otherwise, the app is quite useable and accessible.
> Thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
> Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better
>
> This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize 
> that Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my 
> experience here in the U.S.
>
> 1.
> The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
> This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does 
> not work with VoiceOver.
>
> 2.
> The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, 
> also.
> In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at 
> how well it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone 
> and iPad and both experiences are marvelous.
>
> 3.
> Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users 
> to his account? In order to access various features to which the 
> primary member is subscribed? For no additional costs.
>
> So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television 
> cable service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV 

Re: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have checked the correct settings for using touch ID for unlocking
my phone and getting APPS, but I still need to enter in my apple ID
and password to make this change take affect.  For some reason this
wasn't the case when I unlocked my Iphone 8 with touch ID.

On 7/15/19, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi Joshua,
>
>
>
> I laud your efforts to practice on screen typing on your iPhone but you need
> to tweak your settings so you don't need to provide your Apple ID password
> every time you wish to acquire an app from the Apps Store. To do this:
>
>
>
> 1.  Open the Settings app on your iPhone's main screen. Even though this
> feels like screen page 1, it is actually page 2 in the iOS world.
>
> 2.  Double tap the Settings button or icon to open it.
>
> 3.  Single finger swipe right through the various vertically stacked
> setting options until Touch ID and Passcode has focus and then double tap to
> open it.
>
> 4.  An on screen numeric keypad opens in about the bottom third of the
> screen where you will have to enter your passcode assuming you've set one
> up.
>
> 5.  At the top of the screen that opens is a heading labeled Use Touch
> ID for several items including iPhone Unlock and iTunes and Apps Store. I
> would strongly recommend that you turn both the unlock iPhone and iTunes and
> Apps Store switches on so that you can use Touch ID to both unlock your
> phone and to acquire apps without needing to provide your Apple ID
> password.
>
>
>
> Granted, if you've not yet set up Touch ID, this settings screen is where
> you will have to provide your fingerprint in order to set this up. The
> process is Voiceover friendly and straightforward.
>
>
>
> Once you've set this up, when you attempt to acquire an app in the Apps
> Store whether it costs or not, you should be able to place the applicable
> finger on your home button to approve the acquisition.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps and please let us know how you fare with the process.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?
>
>
>
> Hi to all.  I am kind of enjoying my iPhone.  It is very cool when connected
> to WIFI to be able to get a new siri voice or voiceover voice.  However, I
> am not able to get any apps because of me having to type in my apple ID and
> password.  I can type on the phone after a fashion, but it is very slow.  I
> also don't want to incorrectly type in my aapple ID password to many times
> in case I lock my phone again.
>
> That wasn't fun.  Is there any way I can practice typing on the phone
> without actually doing anything like starting an already installed app.  My
> typing mode on my phone will remain the standard voiceover method for now
> because I tried touch typing mode and it really messed me up.  Once I get
> some apps on my phone, I'll be in business.  I don't plan on using my phone
> for any kind of email checking.  Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
>
>
> Joshua Hendrickson
>
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RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[M. Taylor]

Hello Mike,

The Spectrum Mobile app is for managing your Spectrum account; for example, 
seeing your account balance, adding or removing services, scheduling house 
calls, etc.

The Spectrum TV app is for actually enjoying the content of your subscription.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Hi Mark,
 
What are the differences between the Spectrum Mobile app for iOS and the 
Spectrum TV app for iOS?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
- Original Message - 
From: M. Taylor 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:59 PM
Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize that
Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my experience here in
the U.S.

1.
The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does not
work with VoiceOver.

2.
The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, also.
In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at how
well it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone and iPad
and both experiences are marvelous.

3.
Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users to
his account? In order to access various features to which the primary member
is subscribed? For no additional costs.

So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television cable
service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of your devices
so that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from within your home
and a subset of those stations when a way from home, you can authorize up to
5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their mobile
devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say limited because
these users cannot access your actual account in terms of receiving bills,
seeing your account number, etc.  They can only see the items that you allow
them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as merely an example.  Each of your
authorized limited users will have her own login user ID and Password,
separate and distinct from your own.  You can change their account access
permissions or remove them from your account at any time, at which point the
Spectrum TV app and any of its related features will be immediately
disabled.

The best part is that the entire process of creating and managing users, is
completely VoiceOver accessible in Safari for iOS.

Now I stipulate Safari because the more advanced features of Spectrum
account management can only be accomplished via a web browser, not the
mobile app.  The app, to dayte, simply does not allow for such advanced
account management.

So if you are a Spectrum Cable subscriber, and you have not yet done so,
create your Spectrum online account, sign in, download, and enjoy.

Mark


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RE: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

[M. Taylor]

Hello Arlene,

I think your questions have been answered but, as I am getting a little 
confused as to who has answered, what, I'm just going to reply.


The Apple Smart Keyboard is an extremely thin hardware keyboard that acts as a 
cover for iPad.  This is to say, when it is placed on top of the display, the 
display turns off and the iPad locks.

Also, unlike a, quote, standard hardware Bluetooth keyboard, quote, it does not 
need to be charged, as there is no battery nor does it need to be paired to 
iPad in order to function.  The actual keyboard configuration mirrors that of a 
MacBook Air.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 4:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

Mark, There's nothing like, over amount of time, finding how well something is 
so useful and meets your needs, in this case your ipad. Also pointing out that 
your ipad and smart keyboard is in addition to your other technology, your 
phone and other computers. in other words you're not putting all your eggs in 
one basket. I have some questions, What is lte?
could you tell a little more about the smart keyboard, is it different from a 
bluetooth keyboard?  Does it work differently than a bluetooth keyboard? 
Also would a smart keyboard be accessible for someone that relies on voice over 
that has no vision? Some of these questions may seem silly to ask, but since I 
don't have the answers, it's best to ask. What a treasure for you finding out 
all that you can do between your ipad and smart keyboard. Thank you for sharing.

Arlene
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:31 PM
Subject: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro


> Hello All,
>
> Okay, it's official, I absolutely love my iPad Pro.  I have owned it 
> almost
> five months, now, and find that I am using it more and more, each day.  I 
> am
> certain that my new found appreciation of the tablet has to do with the
> Apple Smart Keyboard, an accessory that makes iPad feel more like a moble
> desktop than a tablet.
>
> What I am discovering is that I enjoy the fusion of the hardware keyboard
> and the touch screen.  This makes what are sometimes challenging websites
> for my PC and/or Mac computers much more easily accessible.
>
> I find that I am using a much wider range of iOS apps on iPad than I ever
> would have on iPhone because of the convenience of the Smart Keyboard.
>
> For example, I now manage all of the administrative functions of this 
> group
> on my iPad where as I used to only manage it via my PC.  Simply put, the
> experience is better on iPad than on a desktop; iPhone is simply too small
> and there is the issue of not having an easily accessible hardware 
> keyboard
> for iPhone.  Yes, I have a Apple Bluetooth keybord for iPhone but I much
> prefer to use the iPad Smart Keyboard.
>
> For so many years I was of the opinion that the VoiceOver experience on
> iPhone would/should be the same on iPad.  I was completely wrong on this
> point.
>
> I'm seriously thinking about activating the LTE feature on the tablet but
> have not yet done so because I use it, primarily, at home.
>
> I have decided not to install any financial / money management apps on it
> because the iPhone works just fine and I do anticipate using iPad on a
> public Wi-Fi sooner or later, assuming I do not activate LTE or make use 
> of
> my tethering option.
>
> Now I'm not suggesting that I would buy a tablet instead of a Mac or PC
> computer; but I am saying that the tablet certainly augments both my web
> browsing accessibility experience and my confidence in terms of accessing
> various software applications and challenging websites.
>
> In short, it is a wonderful addition to my other technology, not a
> replacement for it.
>
> As a ten-year iPHone user, it has taken a little time to get used to iPad
> and its advantages and, in some cases, its disadvantages.
>
> It will be interesting to discover how Apple will further increase the
> distinction between iOS and iPad OS, this fall.
>
> I had planned on installing the beta of iPad OS on my iPad Pro but, I am
> enjoying using iPad so much that I find that I have no desire to test the
> new OS until it is much more stable (smile).
>
> Just thought I would post this for those of you who may be considering 
> iPad.
> If you do decide to move forward with a purchase, I cannot stress enough 
> the
> important, in my opinion, of also buying, if not the Apple Smart Keyboard,
> then at least an iPad-compatible BlueTooth Keyboard.
>
> In the Journey,
>
> Mark
>
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RE: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Joshua,

 

I laud your efforts to practice on screen typing on your iPhone but you need to 
tweak your settings so you don't need to provide your Apple ID password every 
time you wish to acquire an app from the Apps Store. To do this:

 

1.  Open the Settings app on your iPhone's main screen. Even though this 
feels like screen page 1, it is actually page 2 in the iOS world.

2.  Double tap the Settings button or icon to open it.

3.  Single finger swipe right through the various vertically stacked 
setting options until Touch ID and Passcode has focus and then double tap to 
open it.

4.  An on screen numeric keypad opens in about the bottom third of the 
screen where you will have to enter your passcode assuming you've set one up.

5.  At the top of the screen that opens is a heading labeled Use Touch ID 
for several items including iPhone Unlock and iTunes and Apps Store. I would 
strongly recommend that you turn both the unlock iPhone and iTunes and Apps 
Store switches on so that you can use Touch ID to both unlock your phone and to 
acquire apps without needing to provide your Apple ID password.

 

Granted, if you've not yet set up Touch ID, this settings screen is where you 
will have to provide your fingerprint in order to set this up. The process is 
Voiceover friendly and straightforward.

 

Once you've set this up, when you attempt to acquire an app in the Apps Store 
whether it costs or not, you should be able to place the applicable finger on 
your home button to approve the acquisition.

 

I hope this helps and please let us know how you fare with the process.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

 

Hi to all.  I am kind of enjoying my iPhone.  It is very cool when connected to 
WIFI to be able to get a new siri voice or voiceover voice.  However, I am not 
able to get any apps because of me having to type in my apple ID and password.  
I can type on the phone after a fashion, but it is very slow.  I also don't 
want to incorrectly type in my aapple ID password to many times in case I lock 
my phone again.

That wasn't fun.  Is there any way I can practice typing on the phone without 
actually doing anything like starting an already installed app.  My typing mode 
on my phone will remain the standard voiceover method for now because I tried 
touch typing mode and it really messed me up.  Once I get some apps on my 
phone, I'll be in business.  I don't plan on using my phone for any kind of 
email checking.  Thanks for any help.

 

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Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

[Arlene]

Greg, thank you for answering my questions. This might sound to silly, but I 
never heard of a smart keyboard until Mark mentioned having one. What's 
different about a smarkt keyboard, and how is it different from a bluetooth 
keyboard? Thank you.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Wocher" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro



Hello,
LTE means that the tablet has the option to have cellular connectivity. 
The smart keyboard does not use bluetooth. On some of the newer iPad 
models there is a smart connector. This is what the smart keyboard uses to 
connect to the iPad.


Greg Wocher



On Jul 15, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

What's the difference between using the iPad Smart Keyboard as compaired 
to the Matias bluetooth keyboard that I now use with my ipad mini 4?


-Original Message- From: M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

Hello All,

Okay, it's official, I absolutely love my iPad Pro.  I have owned it 
almost
five months, now, and find that I am using it more and more, each day.  I 
am

certain that my new found appreciation of the tablet has to do with the
Apple Smart Keyboard, an accessory that makes iPad feel more like a moble
desktop than a tablet.

What I am discovering is that I enjoy the fusion of the hardware keyboard
and the touch screen.  This makes what are sometimes challenging websites
for my PC and/or Mac computers much more easily accessible.

I find that I am using a much wider range of iOS apps on iPad than I ever
would have on iPhone because of the convenience of the Smart Keyboard.

For example, I now manage all of the administrative functions of this 
group

on my iPad where as I used to only manage it via my PC.  Simply put, the
experience is better on iPad than on a desktop; iPhone is simply too 
small
and there is the issue of not having an easily accessible hardware 
keyboard

for iPhone.  Yes, I have a Apple Bluetooth keybord for iPhone but I much
prefer to use the iPad Smart Keyboard.

For so many years I was of the opinion that the VoiceOver experience on
iPhone would/should be the same on iPad.  I was completely wrong on this
point.

I'm seriously thinking about activating the LTE feature on the tablet but
have not yet done so because I use it, primarily, at home.

I have decided not to install any financial / money management apps on it
because the iPhone works just fine and I do anticipate using iPad on a
public Wi-Fi sooner or later, assuming I do not activate LTE or make use 
of

my tethering option.

Now I'm not suggesting that I would buy a tablet instead of a Mac or PC
computer; but I am saying that the tablet certainly augments both my web
browsing accessibility experience and my confidence in terms of accessing
various software applications and challenging websites.

In short, it is a wonderful addition to my other technology, not a
replacement for it.

As a ten-year iPHone user, it has taken a little time to get used to iPad
and its advantages and, in some cases, its disadvantages.

It will be interesting to discover how Apple will further increase the
distinction between iOS and iPad OS, this fall.

I had planned on installing the beta of iPad OS on my iPad Pro but, I am
enjoying using iPad so much that I find that I have no desire to test the
new OS until it is much more stable (smile).

Just thought I would post this for those of you who may be considering 
iPad.
If you do decide to move forward with a purchase, I cannot stress enough 
the
important, in my opinion, of also buying, if not the Apple Smart 
Keyboard,

then at least an iPad-compatible BlueTooth Keyboard.

In the Journey,

Mark


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Re: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?

[Arlene]

I first got used to typing on the screen by going into my notes area.
- Original Message - 
From: "Holly" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: is there anyway of practicing typing on the iPhone?



Josh:

Maybe you could just open your 'notes' app that is already installed on 
your phone.  Just start a new note and practice typing.  Just delete it 
when you are finished.

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RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[pdllogan77]

Not that I know of ...



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 12:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Jim and Everyone,

When in the Live TV section of the Spectrum TV app for iOS, is there a way to 
mute the streaming audio sound so that one can more easily hear VoiceOver?  

Thank you,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Fettgather
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations that have 
been made regarding this app.
However, I am experiencing something in the Guide, which I am wondering if 
anyone else is having the same issue.
Select the Guide Tab, tap on any station, and then tap Network Schedule.
I am hearing the following:
Time:   Name of show.
Time:  Name of show.
In other words, the time of day for airing of the program is not announced, 
only the word "time."
Now, if you decide to record the show, then the start and end times are 
announced, but that is a bit inconvenient.
Otherwise, the app is quite useable and accessible.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize that 
Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my experience here in the 
U.S.

1.
The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does not work 
with VoiceOver.

2.
The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, also.
In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at how well 
it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone and iPad and both 
experiences are marvelous.

3.
Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users to his 
account? In order to access various features to which the primary member is 
subscribed? For no additional costs.

So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television cable 
service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of your devices so 
that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from within your home and a 
subset of those stations when a way from home, you can authorize up to
5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their mobile 
devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say limited because 
these users cannot access your actual account in terms of receiving bills, 
seeing your account number, etc.  They can only see the items that you allow 
them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as merely an example.  Each of your 
authorized limited users will have her own login user ID and Password, separate 
and distinct from your own.  You can change their account access permissions or 
remove them from your account at any time, at which point the Spectrum TV app 
and any of its related features will be immediately disabled.

The best part is that the entire process of creating and managing users, is 
completely VoiceOver accessible in Safari for iOS.

Now I stipulate Safari because the more advanced features of Spectrum account 
management can only be accomplished via a web browser, not the mobile app.  The 
app, to dayte, simply does not allow for such advanced account management.

So if you are a Spectrum Cable subscriber, and you have not yet done so, create 
your Spectrum online account, sign in, download, and enjoy.

Mark


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RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[pdllogan77]

A work around this is to use the guide on the Apple TV ...  I know not ideal, 
but it does work ..

Also, the web site works pretty well ..

Also, if you are reporting things to them, the recording functions aren't 
consistent between the Iphone and Apple TV.  Sometimes on the ATV I get a 
message telling me to call to upgrade when trying to schedule a recording.  But 
it works fine on the IPhone.  Also, on the IPhone you can't set up a series 
recording, but you can on the ATV.  I have reported these .. but the more that 
do . the faster they might fix ..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 12:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Hello Jim,

I just followed your steps and got the same VoiceOver results.

Please join me in reporting this bug to Spectrum via the feedback tool, located 
in the Settings area of the app and via an app review in the App Store.

Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Fettgather
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations that have 
been made regarding this app.
However, I am experiencing something in the Guide, which I am wondering if 
anyone else is having the same issue.
Select the Guide Tab, tap on any station, and then tap Network Schedule.
I am hearing the following:
Time:   Name of show.
Time:  Name of show.
In other words, the time of day for airing of the program is not announced, 
only the word "time."
Now, if you decide to record the show, then the start and end times are 
announced, but that is a bit inconvenient.
Otherwise, the app is quite useable and accessible.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize that 
Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my experience here in the 
U.S.

1.
The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does not work 
with VoiceOver.

2.
The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, also.
In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at how well 
it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone and iPad and both 
experiences are marvelous.

3.
Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users to his 
account? In order to access various features to which the primary member is 
subscribed? For no additional costs.

So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television cable 
service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of your devices so 
that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from within your home and a 
subset of those stations when a way from home, you can authorize up to
5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their mobile 
devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say limited because 
these users cannot access your actual account in terms of receiving bills, 
seeing your account number, etc.  They can only see the items that you allow 
them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as merely an example.  Each of your 
authorized limited users will have her own login user ID and Password, separate 
and distinct from your own.  You can change their account access permissions or 
remove them from your account at any time, at which point the Spectrum TV app 
and any of its related features will be immediately disabled.

The best part is that the entire process of creating and managing users, is 
completely VoiceOver accessible in Safari for iOS.

Now I stipulate Safari because the more advanced features of Spectrum account 
management can only be accomplished via a web browser, not the mobile app.  The 
app, to dayte, simply does not allow for such advanced account management.

So if you are a Spectrum Cable subscriber, and you have not yet done so, create 
your Spectrum online account, sign in, download, and enjoy.

Mark


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Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[Mike B.]

Hi Mark,

What are the differences between the Spectrum Mobile app for iOS and the 
Spectrum TV app for iOS?  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
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From: M. Taylor
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:59 PM
Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize that
Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my experience here in
the U.S.

1.
The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does not
work with VoiceOver.

2.
The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, also.
In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at how
well it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone and iPad
and both experiences are marvelous.

3.
Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users to
his account? In order to access various features to which the primary member
is subscribed? For no additional costs.

So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television cable
service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of your devices
so that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from within your home
and a subset of those stations when a way from home, you can authorize up to
5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their mobile
devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say limited because
these users cannot access your actual account in terms of receiving bills,
seeing your account number, etc.  They can only see the items that you allow
them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as merely an example.  Each of your
authorized limited users will have her own login user ID and Password,
separate and distinct from your own.  You can change their account access
permissions or remove them from your account at any time, at which point the
Spectrum TV app and any of its related features will be immediately
disabled.

The best part is that the entire process of creating and managing users, is
completely VoiceOver accessible in Safari for iOS.

Now I stipulate Safari because the more advanced features of Spectrum
account management can only be accomplished via a web browser, not the
mobile app.  The app, to dayte, simply does not allow for such advanced
account management.

So if you are a Spectrum Cable subscriber, and you have not yet done so,
create your Spectrum online account, sign in, download, and enjoy.

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Cannot connect to iCloud error. Need help.

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

Since last night, I've been attempting to go into Settings, Apple ID, and
access my Passwords and Security setting to check something and I'm getting
a "Cannot connect to iCloud" error message whenever I do this. I use the
Tunnel Bear VPN service and have written them about this issue but wanted to
also question the folks on this list. I'm accessing my settings from my home
trusted network so in my opinion, the VPN service should not be interfering.
However, I've been unable to access iCloud for several hours.

 

Any suggestions will be appreciated. I'm not a fan of resetting all my
network settings or in uninstalling my Tunnel Bear app but realize I have to
be able to connect to iCloud so am willing to trial and error your
suggestions. I plan to call Apple Accessibility shortly.

 

Thanks for any help you can offer.

 

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Re: bluetooth on the Bose sound wear

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi Robert,
I know how to forget the Soundware but I will probably have to call tech 
support for that.  I am going to sell them but didn't think the new owner 
needs to hear "connecting to Kay's iPhone or my IRA controller.  Thanks and 
take care.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Carter
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:36 AM
  Subject: Re: bluetooth on the Bose sound wear


  Hi Kay,


  I don’t remember the command but I know I have seen a reset command for 
the SoundWare. Bose tech support should be able to provide it for you.


  On the iPhone side, you can go to Bluetooth and choose the more option 
after SoundWare and tell the phone to forget the device.


  Robert Carter






On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:


I was wondering if anyone knows how to make the Bose SoundWear forget 
devices that it has connected with in the past?  Like my iPhone for example? 
Any ideas?  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
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Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
LTE means that the tablet has the option to have cellular connectivity. The 
smart keyboard does not use bluetooth. On some of the newer iPad models there 
is a smart connector. This is what the smart keyboard uses to connect to the 
iPad. 

Greg Wocher


> On Jul 15, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> What's the difference between using the iPad Smart Keyboard as compaired to 
> the Matias bluetooth keyboard that I now use with my ipad mini 4?
> 
> -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, it's official, I absolutely love my iPad Pro.  I have owned it almost
> five months, now, and find that I am using it more and more, each day.  I am
> certain that my new found appreciation of the tablet has to do with the
> Apple Smart Keyboard, an accessory that makes iPad feel more like a moble
> desktop than a tablet.
> 
> What I am discovering is that I enjoy the fusion of the hardware keyboard
> and the touch screen.  This makes what are sometimes challenging websites
> for my PC and/or Mac computers much more easily accessible.
> 
> I find that I am using a much wider range of iOS apps on iPad than I ever
> would have on iPhone because of the convenience of the Smart Keyboard.
> 
> For example, I now manage all of the administrative functions of this group
> on my iPad where as I used to only manage it via my PC.  Simply put, the
> experience is better on iPad than on a desktop; iPhone is simply too small
> and there is the issue of not having an easily accessible hardware keyboard
> for iPhone.  Yes, I have a Apple Bluetooth keybord for iPhone but I much
> prefer to use the iPad Smart Keyboard.
> 
> For so many years I was of the opinion that the VoiceOver experience on
> iPhone would/should be the same on iPad.  I was completely wrong on this
> point.
> 
> I'm seriously thinking about activating the LTE feature on the tablet but
> have not yet done so because I use it, primarily, at home.
> 
> I have decided not to install any financial / money management apps on it
> because the iPhone works just fine and I do anticipate using iPad on a
> public Wi-Fi sooner or later, assuming I do not activate LTE or make use of
> my tethering option.
> 
> Now I'm not suggesting that I would buy a tablet instead of a Mac or PC
> computer; but I am saying that the tablet certainly augments both my web
> browsing accessibility experience and my confidence in terms of accessing
> various software applications and challenging websites.
> 
> In short, it is a wonderful addition to my other technology, not a
> replacement for it.
> 
> As a ten-year iPHone user, it has taken a little time to get used to iPad
> and its advantages and, in some cases, its disadvantages.
> 
> It will be interesting to discover how Apple will further increase the
> distinction between iOS and iPad OS, this fall.
> 
> I had planned on installing the beta of iPad OS on my iPad Pro but, I am
> enjoying using iPad so much that I find that I have no desire to test the
> new OS until it is much more stable (smile).
> 
> Just thought I would post this for those of you who may be considering iPad.
> If you do decide to move forward with a purchase, I cannot stress enough the
> important, in my opinion, of also buying, if not the Apple Smart Keyboard,
> then at least an iPad-compatible BlueTooth Keyboard.
> 
> In the Journey,
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

[Russ Kiehne]

What's the difference between using the iPad Smart Keyboard as compaired to 
the Matias bluetooth keyboard that I now use with my ipad mini 4?


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

Hello All,

Okay, it's official, I absolutely love my iPad Pro.  I have owned it almost
five months, now, and find that I am using it more and more, each day.  I am
certain that my new found appreciation of the tablet has to do with the
Apple Smart Keyboard, an accessory that makes iPad feel more like a moble
desktop than a tablet.

What I am discovering is that I enjoy the fusion of the hardware keyboard
and the touch screen.  This makes what are sometimes challenging websites
for my PC and/or Mac computers much more easily accessible.

I find that I am using a much wider range of iOS apps on iPad than I ever
would have on iPhone because of the convenience of the Smart Keyboard.

For example, I now manage all of the administrative functions of this group
on my iPad where as I used to only manage it via my PC.  Simply put, the
experience is better on iPad than on a desktop; iPhone is simply too small
and there is the issue of not having an easily accessible hardware keyboard
for iPhone.  Yes, I have a Apple Bluetooth keybord for iPhone but I much
prefer to use the iPad Smart Keyboard.

For so many years I was of the opinion that the VoiceOver experience on
iPhone would/should be the same on iPad.  I was completely wrong on this
point.

I'm seriously thinking about activating the LTE feature on the tablet but
have not yet done so because I use it, primarily, at home.

I have decided not to install any financial / money management apps on it
because the iPhone works just fine and I do anticipate using iPad on a
public Wi-Fi sooner or later, assuming I do not activate LTE or make use of
my tethering option.

Now I'm not suggesting that I would buy a tablet instead of a Mac or PC
computer; but I am saying that the tablet certainly augments both my web
browsing accessibility experience and my confidence in terms of accessing
various software applications and challenging websites.

In short, it is a wonderful addition to my other technology, not a
replacement for it.

As a ten-year iPHone user, it has taken a little time to get used to iPad
and its advantages and, in some cases, its disadvantages.

It will be interesting to discover how Apple will further increase the
distinction between iOS and iPad OS, this fall.

I had planned on installing the beta of iPad OS on my iPad Pro but, I am
enjoying using iPad so much that I find that I have no desire to test the
new OS until it is much more stable (smile).

Just thought I would post this for those of you who may be considering iPad.
If you do decide to move forward with a purchase, I cannot stress enough the
important, in my opinion, of also buying, if not the Apple Smart Keyboard,
then at least an iPad-compatible BlueTooth Keyboard.

In the Journey,

Mark


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Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Is the smart keyboard an actual physical keyboard?

On 7/15/19, Arlene  wrote:
> Mark, There's nothing like, over amount of time, finding how well something
>
> is so useful and meets your needs, in this case your ipad. Also pointing out
>
> that your ipad and smart keyboard is in addition to your other technology,
> your phone and other computers. in other words you're not putting all your
> eggs in one basket. I have some questions,
> What is lte?
> could you tell a little more about the smart keyboard, is it different from
>
> a bluetooth keyboard?  Does it work differently than a bluetooth keyboard?
> Also would a smart keyboard be accessible for someone that relies on voice
> over that has no vision? Some of these questions may seem silly to ask, but
>
> since I don't have the answers, it's best to ask. What a treasure for you
> finding out all that you can do between your ipad and smart keyboard. Thank
>
> you for sharing.
>
> Arlene
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:31 PM
> Subject: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Okay, it's official, I absolutely love my iPad Pro.  I have owned it
>> almost
>> five months, now, and find that I am using it more and more, each day.  I
>>
>> am
>> certain that my new found appreciation of the tablet has to do with the
>> Apple Smart Keyboard, an accessory that makes iPad feel more like a moble
>> desktop than a tablet.
>>
>> What I am discovering is that I enjoy the fusion of the hardware keyboard
>> and the touch screen.  This makes what are sometimes challenging websites
>> for my PC and/or Mac computers much more easily accessible.
>>
>> I find that I am using a much wider range of iOS apps on iPad than I ever
>> would have on iPhone because of the convenience of the Smart Keyboard.
>>
>> For example, I now manage all of the administrative functions of this
>> group
>> on my iPad where as I used to only manage it via my PC.  Simply put, the
>> experience is better on iPad than on a desktop; iPhone is simply too
>> small
>> and there is the issue of not having an easily accessible hardware
>> keyboard
>> for iPhone.  Yes, I have a Apple Bluetooth keybord for iPhone but I much
>> prefer to use the iPad Smart Keyboard.
>>
>> For so many years I was of the opinion that the VoiceOver experience on
>> iPhone would/should be the same on iPad.  I was completely wrong on this
>> point.
>>
>> I'm seriously thinking about activating the LTE feature on the tablet but
>> have not yet done so because I use it, primarily, at home.
>>
>> I have decided not to install any financial / money management apps on it
>> because the iPhone works just fine and I do anticipate using iPad on a
>> public Wi-Fi sooner or later, assuming I do not activate LTE or make use
>> of
>> my tethering option.
>>
>> Now I'm not suggesting that I would buy a tablet instead of a Mac or PC
>> computer; but I am saying that the tablet certainly augments both my web
>> browsing accessibility experience and my confidence in terms of accessing
>> various software applications and challenging websites.
>>
>> In short, it is a wonderful addition to my other technology, not a
>> replacement for it.
>>
>> As a ten-year iPHone user, it has taken a little time to get used to iPad
>> and its advantages and, in some cases, its disadvantages.
>>
>> It will be interesting to discover how Apple will further increase the
>> distinction between iOS and iPad OS, this fall.
>>
>> I had planned on installing the beta of iPad OS on my iPad Pro but, I am
>> enjoying using iPad so much that I find that I have no desire to test the
>> new OS until it is much more stable (smile).
>>
>> Just thought I would post this for those of you who may be considering
>> iPad.
>> If you do decide to move forward with a purchase, I cannot stress enough
>> the
>> important, in my opinion, of also buying, if not the Apple Smart
>> Keyboard,
>> then at least an iPad-compatible BlueTooth Keyboard.
>>
>> In the Journey,
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: bluetooth on the Bose sound wear

[Robert Carter]

Hi Kay,

I don’t remember the command but I know I have seen a reset command for the 
SoundWare. Bose tech support should be able to provide it for you.

On the iPhone side, you can go to Bluetooth and choose the more option after 
SoundWare and tell the phone to forget the device.

Robert Carter



> On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone knows how to make the Bose SoundWear forget devices 
> that it has connected with in the past?  Like my iPhone for example?  Any 
> ideas?  Thanks much.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>  
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RE: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[pdllogan77]

The only time you can pause something is if you have added the DVR and are 
watching that via the DVR tab...there is a play/pause button that works well... 
 All other places you are watching live TV and hence can't stop it ..  Doesn't 
work like a traditional DVR.  I'm not really sure why they have that as part of 
the controls .. maybe they will add it at some point.

I have contacted them several times about issues .. and they have been pretty 
responsive...  

If you use the Apple TV app, you can speak a lot of the commands .. like 
changing the secondary audio .. skipping back and forth while watching a DVR 
recording and such...sometimes results aren't consistent, but they are getting 
better ...


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Unfortunately, the two finger double tap does not work in this app, you must 
select a different tab, such as Guide or On Demand.
Even when you enable the video controls, there seems to be no pause or Stop 
button.
Audio description may be enabled, but no way to stop the video that I have 
found.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Gordon
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

Does the two finger double tap work? This works for me in the direct tv app 
during streaming audio.

On 7/14/2019 11:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Jim and Everyone,
>
> When in the Live TV section of the Spectrum TV app for iOS, is there a 
> way to mute the streaming audio sound so that one can more easily hear 
> VoiceOver?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
> Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better
>
> I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations 
> that have been made regarding this app.
> However, I am experiencing something in the Guide, which I am 
> wondering if anyone else is having the same issue.
> Select the Guide Tab, tap on any station, and then tap Network Schedule.
> I am hearing the following:
> Time:   Name of show.
> Time:  Name of show.
> In other words, the time of day for airing of the program is not 
> announced, only the word "time."
> Now, if you decide to record the show, then the start and end times 
> are announced, but that is a bit inconvenient.
> Otherwise, the app is quite useable and accessible.
> Thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
> Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better
>
> This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize 
> that Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my 
> experience here in the U.S.
>
> 1.
> The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
> This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does 
> not work with VoiceOver.
>
> 2.
> The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, 
> also.
> In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at 
> how well it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone 
> and iPad and both experiences are marvelous.
>
> 3.
> Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users 
> to his account? In order to access various features to which the 
> primary member is subscribed? For no additional costs.
>
> So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television 
> cable service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of 
> your devices so that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from 
> within your home and a subset of those stations when a way from home, 
> you can authorize up to
> 5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their 
> mobile devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say 
> limited because these users cannot access your actual account in terms 
> of receiving bills, seeing your account number, etc.  They can only 
> see the items that you allow them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as 
> merely an example.  Each of your authorized limited users will have 
> her own login user ID and Password, separate and distinct from your 
> own.  You can change their account access permissions or remove them 
> from your account at any time, at which point the Spectrum TV app and 
> any of its related features will be immediately disabled.
>
> 

Re: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro

[Arlene]

Mark, There's nothing like, over amount of time, finding how well something 
is so useful and meets your needs, in this case your ipad. Also pointing out 
that your ipad and smart keyboard is in addition to your other technology, 
your phone and other computers. in other words you're not putting all your 
eggs in one basket. I have some questions,

What is lte?
could you tell a little more about the smart keyboard, is it different from 
a bluetooth keyboard?  Does it work differently than a bluetooth keyboard? 
Also would a smart keyboard be accessible for someone that relies on voice 
over that has no vision? Some of these questions may seem silly to ask, but 
since I don't have the answers, it's best to ask. What a treasure for you 
finding out all that you can do between your ipad and smart keyboard. Thank 
you for sharing.


Arlene
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From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:31 PM
Subject: Okay, It's Official, Mark Loves His iPad Pro



Hello All,

Okay, it's official, I absolutely love my iPad Pro.  I have owned it 
almost
five months, now, and find that I am using it more and more, each day.  I 
am

certain that my new found appreciation of the tablet has to do with the
Apple Smart Keyboard, an accessory that makes iPad feel more like a moble
desktop than a tablet.

What I am discovering is that I enjoy the fusion of the hardware keyboard
and the touch screen.  This makes what are sometimes challenging websites
for my PC and/or Mac computers much more easily accessible.

I find that I am using a much wider range of iOS apps on iPad than I ever
would have on iPhone because of the convenience of the Smart Keyboard.

For example, I now manage all of the administrative functions of this 
group

on my iPad where as I used to only manage it via my PC.  Simply put, the
experience is better on iPad than on a desktop; iPhone is simply too small
and there is the issue of not having an easily accessible hardware 
keyboard

for iPhone.  Yes, I have a Apple Bluetooth keybord for iPhone but I much
prefer to use the iPad Smart Keyboard.

For so many years I was of the opinion that the VoiceOver experience on
iPhone would/should be the same on iPad.  I was completely wrong on this
point.

I'm seriously thinking about activating the LTE feature on the tablet but
have not yet done so because I use it, primarily, at home.

I have decided not to install any financial / money management apps on it
because the iPhone works just fine and I do anticipate using iPad on a
public Wi-Fi sooner or later, assuming I do not activate LTE or make use 
of

my tethering option.

Now I'm not suggesting that I would buy a tablet instead of a Mac or PC
computer; but I am saying that the tablet certainly augments both my web
browsing accessibility experience and my confidence in terms of accessing
various software applications and challenging websites.

In short, it is a wonderful addition to my other technology, not a
replacement for it.

As a ten-year iPHone user, it has taken a little time to get used to iPad
and its advantages and, in some cases, its disadvantages.

It will be interesting to discover how Apple will further increase the
distinction between iOS and iPad OS, this fall.

I had planned on installing the beta of iPad OS on my iPad Pro but, I am
enjoying using iPad so much that I find that I have no desire to test the
new OS until it is much more stable (smile).

Just thought I would post this for those of you who may be considering 
iPad.
If you do decide to move forward with a purchase, I cannot stress enough 
the

important, in my opinion, of also buying, if not the Apple Smart Keyboard,
then at least an iPad-compatible BlueTooth Keyboard.

In the Journey,

Mark


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Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better

[Jim Fettgather]

Unfortunately, the two finger double tap does not work in this app, you must 
select a different tab, such as Guide or On Demand.
Even when you enable the video controls, there seems to be no pause or Stop 
button.
Audio description may be enabled, but no way to stop the video that I have 
found.

Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Gordon

Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


Does the two finger double tap work? This works for me in the direct tv
app during streaming audio.

On 7/14/2019 11:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Jim and Everyone,

When in the Live TV section of the Spectrum TV app for iOS, is there a way 
to mute the streaming audio sound so that one can more easily hear 
VoiceOver?


Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Fettgather

Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the 
Spectrum Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


I agree for the most part with all of the assertions and observations that 
have been made regarding this app.
However, I am experiencing something in the Guide, which I am wondering if 
anyone else is having the same issue.

Select the Guide Tab, tap on any station, and then tap Network Schedule.
I am hearing the following:
Time:   Name of show.
Time:  Name of show.
In other words, the time of day for airing of the program is not 
announced, only the word "time."
Now, if you decide to record the show, then the start and end times are 
announced, but that is a bit inconvenient.

Otherwise, the app is quite useable and accessible.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Some Interesting VoiceOver Accessibility Facts About the Spectrum 
Cable Service, It's getting Better and Better


This is for all of you who subscribe to Spectrum Cable.  I realize that 
Spectrum is a Canadian company but I can only report my experience here in 
the U.S.


1.
The Spectrum Mobile for iOS app appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible.
This is to say, I have yet to discover any area of the app that does not 
work with VoiceOver.


2.
The Spectrum TV app, for iOS, appears to be 100% VoiceOver accessible, 
also.
In fact, I have been using it for several days, now, and am amazed at how 
well it works with VoiceOver.  I have installed it on both iPhone and iPad 
and both experiences are marvelous.


3.
Did you know that any Spectrum subscriber can add upto 5 limited users to 
his account? In order to access various features to which the primary 
member is subscribed? For no additional costs.


So, for example, if you are subscribed to Spectrum for your television 
cable service, not only can you install the Spectrum TV app on all of your 
devices so that you can enjoy all of your allowed stations, from within 
your home and a subset of those stations when a way from home, you can 
authorize up to
5 limited users to have access to that same channel line-up on their 
mobile devices, as well, on their respective mobile devices.  I say 
limited because these users cannot access your actual account in terms of 
receiving bills, seeing your account number, etc.  They can only see the 
items that you allow them to see.  I am using the TV tool, as merely an 
example.  Each of your authorized limited users will have her own login 
user ID and Password, separate and distinct from your own.  You can change 
their account access permissions or remove them from your account at any 
time, at which point the Spectrum TV app and any of its related features 
will be immediately disabled.


The best part is that the entire process of creating and managing users, 
is completely VoiceOver accessible in Safari for iOS.


Now I stipulate Safari because the more advanced features of Spectrum 
account management can only be accomplished via a web browser, not the 
mobile app.  The app, to dayte, simply does not allow for such advanced 
account management.


So if you are a Spectrum Cable subscriber, and you have not yet done so, 
create your Spectrum online account, sign in, download, and enjoy.


Mark


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RE: Sonos now has the Google Assistant

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard

Thanks so much. I shall give it a go.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2019 18:22
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos now has the Google Assistant

 

Hi Fanus,

 

It’s pretty much a self-explanatory, guided setup process. Here is an article 
from a Google Blog:

 

When your hands are full hosting a party with family and friends, or when 
you’re just chilling at home, your Google Assistant can help you find your 
favorite playlist, skip to the next song or turn up the volume. Today, we’re 
bringing the Assistant to your Sonos system so that you can easily play music 
on any speaker in your house. Plus, you'll get all the usual help from the 
Assistant to better manage your day, like traffic to work or your next 
appointment. With this software update, you can activate the Assistant on your 
Sonos One and Sonos Beam, or control any other Sonos product from a Google 
Assistant-enabled device, such as your phone, a smart speaker, or a Smart 
Display.

 

Here are a few things you can do with the Google Assistant on Sonos:

Listen to some tunes. Or news. Or podcasts: While you’re able to play music 
from all the services the Assistant already supports—including YouTube Music, 
Pandora, and Spotify—you can also use the Assistant to skip to the next track, 
pause the music and change volume from the 100+ music services already 
available on Sonos. It’s also easy to catch up on the latest episode of your 
favorite podcast just by asking the Assistant.

Enjoy entertainment: With the Google Assistant on Sonos Beam and a 
Chromecast-enabled TV, you can turn on the TV, switch from music to TV, and 
adjust the volume. You can also stream videos from popular services.

Plan your day: Get help with things like your flight information, or traffic on 
your commute to work.

Manage tasks: Set alarms and timers, pull up your calendar appointments, or add 
items to your shopping list.

Get answers: Ask all your questions on sports, weather, calculations, 
translations and more.

Control your home: Ask your Assistant on your speakers to adjust the 
temperature, lighting, and other smart home devices connected in your home.

Get started with the Assistant on your Sonos speaker or soundbar

If you already own a Sonos One or Sonos Beam, it’s easy to set up the 
Assistant. Your speaker and soundbar will automatically receive a software 
update introducing the Google Assistant as a voice assistant option. Do the 
following to add Google Assistant to your Sonos speakers:

1. Go to "Voice Services" in the Sonos app under Settings

2. Select Google Assistant

3. Follow the guided setup process

We’re starting in the U.S. and then will expand support to the UK, Germany, 
Canada, Australia, France, The Netherlands and more over the coming months.

 

And here is a link to the Sonos support article about this:

Set up the   Google 
Assistant with a Sonos One or Beam

 

I guess you have to check if this is already available in South Africa.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos now has the Google Assistant

 

Hello Sieghard

Thanks much. I did not even know that Sonos One can be setup to use Google 
Assistant. Can you perhaps point me to a site where I can read about setting up 
Alexa  and Google Assistant or does one find info in the Sonos Controler help 
system?

Regards

Fanus

  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos now has the Google Assistant

 

Hi Sonos fans,

 

I haven’t seen anything posted yet, but just in case you didn’t know, if you 
own a Sonos One, Sonos Beam soundbar or Sonos, then you can now set it up to 
either use Alexa or the Google Assistant. Obviously the Google Assistant has 
its advantages in terms of knowing much more than Alexa when it comes to 
general questions, asking for phone numbers for businesses, making calls etc., 
but Alexa also has advantages since Audible is supported and so on. 
Unfortunately so far you do have to choose between the 2, you can change it 
from time to time but they are not yet both supported simultaneously although I 
believe it is Sonos’ goal to achieve this.

We currently have our Sonos One stereo set in the kitchen set up for Google 
Assistant and our Sonos One stereo pair in the bathroom for Alexa. It’s nice to 
have Google in the kitchen since it’s much easier to ask for reccipes, the 
integration with our new GE cook stove works better and certain other of our 
home automation also seems to work better on the Google Assistant.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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