Re: Money Reader not in app store

[Richard Turner]

The currency channel in Seeing AI is very good.
I did not know if it did non USA currency; so that is good.


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On Jul 22, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I find that at least for Canadian and probably US currency the Money Reader 
channel of the Seeing AI app works very well also.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Money Reader not in app store

Its name is Nantmobile Money Reader, but it is not showing up in the app store.
It still works if you have it.
Not sure what's going on.

Richard

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On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also if it 
were still in the store.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Money Reader not in app store

Hi,
I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot remember 
what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I have a friend who 
said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone share any info on this 
and what the app is called now?
Mr. Ed
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Re: Money Reader not in app store

[Mike]

I have the mobile money reader and, I also have EyeNote.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 9:53 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> I still have and use Nant Mobile money reader. It still works pretty well as 
> of right now
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also, if you are only needing US currency, then EyeNote from the bureau of 
>> Engraving works great and will tell you if it is the front or the back of 
>> the bill. And Eyenote  it is free.
>> 
>> But, if you need international currencies, this Cash Reader sounds like a 
>> good option.
>> Money Reader was originally $10 then went free.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>> indistinguishable from magic." 
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>> www.turner42.com
>>  
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately money reader is no longer available. There is an other app 
>>> called Cash Reader which supports many more currencies and has much more 
>>> reliable recognition. It is quite fast and can identify bills even if they 
>>> are fold.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Best.
>>> 
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>> 
>>> El 22 jul. 2019, a las 20:56, Richard Turner  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
 Its name is Nantmobile Money Reader, but it is not showing up in the app 
 store.
 It still works if you have it.
 Not sure what's going on.
 
 
 Richard
 
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 is indistinguishable from magic." 
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 On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
 
> I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also 
> if it were still in the store.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mr. Ed
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Money Reader not in app store
>  
> Hi,
> I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot 
> remember what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I 
> have a friend who said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone 
> share any info on this and what the app is called now?
> Mr. Ed
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Re: Money Reader not in app store

[Maria Reyes]

I still have and use Nant Mobile money reader. It still works pretty well as of 
right now

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Also, if you are only needing US currency, then EyeNote from the bureau of 
> Engraving works great and will tell you if it is the front or the back of the 
> bill. And Eyenote  it is free.
> 
> But, if you need international currencies, this Cash Reader sounds like a 
> good option.
> Money Reader was originally $10 then went free.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic." 
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all.
>> 
>> Unfortunately money reader is no longer available. There is an other app 
>> called Cash Reader which supports many more currencies and has much more 
>> reliable recognition. It is quite fast and can identify bills even if they 
>> are fold.
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Best.
>> 
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>> 
>> El 22 jul. 2019, a las 20:56, Richard Turner  
>> escribió:
>> 
>>> Its name is Nantmobile Money Reader, but it is not showing up in the app 
>>> store.
>>> It still works if you have it.
>>> Not sure what's going on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>>> indistinguishable from magic." 
>>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>>> www.turner42.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>> 
 I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also if 
 it were still in the store.
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. 
 Ed
 Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Money Reader not in app store
  
 Hi,
 I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot 
 remember what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I 
 have a friend who said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone 
 share any info on this and what the app is called now?
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RE: Money Reader not in app store

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I find that at least for Canadian and probably US currency the Money Reader 
channel of the Seeing AI app works very well also.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Money Reader not in app store

Its name is Nantmobile Money Reader, but it is not showing up in the app store.
It still works if you have it.
Not sure what's going on.

Richard

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On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also if it 
were still in the store.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Money Reader not in app store

Hi,
I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot remember 
what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I have a friend who 
said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone share any info on this 
and what the app is called now?
Mr. Ed
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Re: voiceover issue after turning on phone

[Mike Arrigo]

I think I'm going to install IOS 12.4 and if the issue still happens, I'm going 
to do a hard reset, hopefully that will resolve it.

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> I haven’t exactly seen that. I have had voiceover go silent from time to time 
> where I still get the voiceover sounds, but no speech. Generally speaking, if 
> I start my phone, voiceover is right there where it should be. Also, when it 
> happens that voiceover stops talking, turning it off and back on again 
> generally solves it.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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>> Hey everyone, this happens with all three of my iphones, iphone XR, iphone 8 
>> and iphone SE, although it is the worst with my XR. Here is the issue. When 
>> I turn on the phone it starts up as normal but there is no speech from 
>> voiceover. The phone is not muted and when I swipe around the screen, the 
>> voiceover sound effects are there but there is no speech for several 
>> minutes. Turning voiceover off and back on does not help either. Sometimes 
>> it can literally take several minutes before the speech starts working. I 
>> have tried the Tom and Alex voices and the same thing happens. I've thought 
>> about hard resetting my phone but was wondering if anyone has seen this 
>> issue before I do that. Suffice it to say that it is quite annoying.
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accessible, compact exercise equipment

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, is there any sort of accessible, compact exercise 
equipment out there? Something that on't take up too much room, as I 
have limited space. Also, something not too expensive. Maybe not anymore 
than $200, maybe, $250?


I am particularly interested in finding an accessible elliptical machine.


Thank you,


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Re: Money Reader not in app store

[Richard Turner]

Also, if you are only needing US currency, then EyeNote from the bureau of 
Engraving works great and will tell you if it is the front or the back of the 
bill. And Eyenote  it is free.

But, if you need international currencies, this Cash Reader sounds like a good 
option.
Money Reader was originally $10 then went free.


Richard

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indistinguishable from magic."
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On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
mailto:crespofranciscosalva...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

Hey all.

Unfortunately money reader is no longer available. There is an other app called 
Cash Reader which supports many more currencies and has much more reliable 
recognition. It is quite fast and can identify bills even if they are fold.
Hope this helps.

Best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 22 jul. 2019, a las 20:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

Its name is Nantmobile Money Reader, but it is not showing up in the app store.
It still works if you have it.
Not sure what's going on.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also if it 
were still in the store.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Money Reader not in app store

Hi,
I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot remember 
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said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone share any info on this 
and what the app is called now?
Mr. Ed
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Re: Money Reader not in app store

[Richard Turner]

you can download it for free for 14 days, then there are several buying options.
I pasted the inApp purchases below, but there is a $17.99 price next to the 
app, which I'm guessing would be a one-time purchase. It has 29 languages 
listed.
In-App Purchases, Yes, Cash Reader: Bill Identifier,$17.99, Full Version for 14 
days,$0.00, Full Version for one month,$0.99, Full Version for one year,$5.99



Richard

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On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
mailto:crespofranciscosalva...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

Hey all.

Unfortunately money reader is no longer available. There is an other app called 
Cash Reader which supports many more currencies and has much more reliable 
recognition. It is quite fast and can identify bills even if they are fold.
Hope this helps.

Best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 22 jul. 2019, a las 20:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

Its name is Nantmobile Money Reader, but it is not showing up in the app store.
It still works if you have it.
Not sure what's going on.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also if it 
were still in the store.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Money Reader not in app store

Hi,
I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot remember 
what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I have a friend who 
said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone share any info on this 
and what the app is called now?
Mr. Ed
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RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Susie Stageberg]

I don't think anyone is suggesting that we have to use this service; Mark just 
posted the article as a point of interest. And since I did not know such 
services existed, I am glad to have this tool in my box should I need it. It 
doesn't fit in my life right now, so if it doesn't fit in yours, then just keep 
scrolling through e-mail.

And as for blind people hovering over their devices and not talking, observe a 
"family" of four sitting in a  restaurant, each on a device. I don't suppose 
civilization as we know it will be threatened, just altered.

Susie

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Marie
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the 
"Store to your Door"

Well, I agree with both Sieghard and Robin, except that I don't think 
what Sieghard says is only said about the blind. There are plenty of 
discussions about people doing more and more things alone on their own 
individual device and not socializing with others which are having all 
sorts of impacts on people's socialization and other skills. I'm not 
saying this is all negative. I was just listening to a podcast where 
someone was saying he can remember how the TV was going to destroy our 
social fabric because people were just going to stay in their homes 
instead of going out to seak entertainment and socialize. Now he says, 
those were actaully the golden days of bringing families together 
because now everyone just goes off into their own room with their own 
device. This podcast was intended for the genral public and not the 
blind, so it isn't true that people only worry about the blind losing 
their socialization skills with services like this.


On 7/22/19 7:42 AM, Marie wrote:
> Well said, Robin.
> I am also very social and active but live alone, am totally blind, do 
> not live in a small town and the grocery delivery is a huge benefit 
> for me.
> Marie
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Robin Frost
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
> Brings the "Store to your Door"
>
> Hi,
> Sieghard says:
> "I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out 
> from time
> to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to 
> this,
> but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and
> exercise is important."
> While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way 
> that
> might not be the case for others. as such
> it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life 
> easier
> whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you clean 
> come up
> people even within our own communities would say such things implying 
> that
> those who use such services don't also do so via other means or should 
> need
> to justify why they make use of such conveniences when sighted 
> counterparts
> would never need to do so.
> Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they
> probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such 
> comments
> to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such would be 
> said in
> relation to those who are blind.
> I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from 
> home
> whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the 
> like and
> I also am found to be out and about in all manner of situations quite
> frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
> To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other 
> store
> iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than even the
> websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't choose the
> color of something at
> www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so
> with ease using Voiceover within their app.
>
> So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no
> apologies for it.
> Take good care.
> Robin
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
> the "Store to your Door"
>
> And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
> I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service and
> delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low 
> delivery
> fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to get $20 
> or $25
> worth of product?
> I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service 
> provided by
> our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and if I call 
> Safeway
> and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a few items on my way 
> home"
> the answer usually is 

Re: Money Reader not in app store

[Francisco Salvador Crespo]

Hey all.

Unfortunately money reader is no longer available. There is an other app called 
Cash Reader which supports many more currencies and has much more reliable 
recognition. It is quite fast and can identify bills even if they are fold.
Hope this helps.

Best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 22 jul. 2019, a las 20:56, Richard Turner  
> escribió:
> 
> Its name is Nantmobile Money Reader, but it is not showing up in the app 
> store.
> It still works if you have it.
> Not sure what's going on.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic." 
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
>> I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also if 
>> it were still in the store.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Money Reader not in app store
>>  
>> Hi,
>> I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot remember 
>> what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I have a friend 
>> who said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone share any info on 
>> this and  what the app is called now?
>> Mr. Ed
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Re: Money Reader not in app store

[Richard Turner]

Its name is Nantmobile Money Reader, but it is not showing up in the app store.
It still works if you have it.
Not sure what's going on.


Richard

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On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also if it 
were still in the store.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
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Subject: Money Reader not in app store

Hi,
I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot remember 
what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I have a friend who 
said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone share any info on this 
and what the app is called now?
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RE: Money Reader not in app store

[Larry Lumpkin]

I think it is “nant money reader” but not sure. I was going to ask also if it 
were still in the store.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Money Reader not in app store

 

Hi,

I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot remember 
what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I have a friend who 
said it was not on the app store any more. Can anyone share any info on this 
and what the app is called now?

Mr. Ed

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Money Reader not in app store

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Hi,

I know the Money Reader app is called something else now. I cannot remember
what it is called. Is the Money Reader app still available? I have a friend
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Re: Recommendations needed for noise-canceling headphones

[Christopher Chaltain]

I think you can get headphones with active noise cancellation in 
multiple formats, since after all, all you need is a microphone. I do 
have a pair of headphones with active noise cancellation which are over 
the head but have very small cups that don't really block out much 
sound. I'm pretty sure Bose also has ear buds with active noise 
cancellation.



Of course if you're going with passive noise cancellation, or combining 
active and passive noise cancellation, then you'll have either cups that 
will cover your whole ear or those silicon tipped ear buds that you 
insert into your ear.



On 7/22/19 9:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Yes, they are “over the ear” so your ears are completely inside and 
from what I have seen every noise cancelling headset has that design 
since otherwise it won’t really be effective in blocking out external 
noise.


I think if you want a set like this for occasional use the Boltunes 
would fill the bill nicely especially since you are not spending $300 
for something you only use rarely.


I hardly ever use a headset for Jaws at work. If I am in my office I 
am usually by myself unless my wife or another employee is reading 
information from invoices to me which I am entering into my 
bookkeeping program or if we are doing orders and if I am at my desk 
in the store my employees and customers just have to put up with 
hearing Eloquence, I don’t have it that loud and they are used to it.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Cristóbal Muñoz

*Sent:* Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:05 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Recommendations needed for noise-canceling headphones

Thanks for the run down.

It’s funny how we all have our own needs and criteria. I have the same 
Logitech headset and they’re fine, but I’m at my PC all day handling 
emails or phone calls for my business and having headphones on all day 
with Jaws can get kind of tiresome. I don’t use the Bluetooth feature 
with my phone though. For all day computer work, I opted to go with a 
pare of Aftershokz Sports headset with an inline microphone. They’re 
wired, but I don’t’ find it to be an inconvenience. That and Jaws 
chattering all day every day doesn’t tire my ears out this way and 
lets me still listen to whatever I want for pleasure in the evening or 
what have you. Audio quality isn’t the “best” with the wired Sports 
bone conduction headset, but for me at least, it’s more of a tool to 
get things done rather than listening pleasure.


My H800 headset more often than not is just hanging there next to my 
desk.


Regarding the Boltunes, did the ear cups completely cover your ears? 
Is it a fully immersive fit? I too find wearing headphones covering my 
ears can get hot after a while. This was another reason why I like 
using my Trekz Air all the time. There’s no way I could wear earbuds 
or on/over the ear ones while working out. That said, I was interested 
in maybe getting something  that would go over the ear completely for 
the times I wanted to block out other ambient noise without having to 
crank up the volume level on my iPhone. I wouldn’t’ use them enough 
for  me justifying dropping $200 plus for a pare.


Thanks again,

Cristóbal

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:* Sunday, July 21, 2019 1:45 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Recommendations needed for noise-canceling headphones

Hi Cristobal,

I ended up sending them back and not because of the fact they sounded 
bad or anything like that. The in fact sounded pretty good, the active 
noise cancelling feature seems to work as advertised although I have 
never used this feature on a high-end headset which costs $300 or $400.


The lack of lag I should say is super on these, I guess Bluetooth 5.0 
in this case was implemented very well and when I tried them by typing 
something it was super responsive.


They are also comfortable to wear, but I am just not used to wearing 
over the ear headsets and found that after 10 minutes my ears were 
getting hot and I realized I would just never use these a lot.


I had also purchased a set of the Logitech H800 headsets which are on 
the ear, they are also lighter and you can use them with a PC via a 
USB receiver, the main slider switch has 3 positions, off on the 
bottom, Bluetooth in the middle and USB on top.


I now have these paired to my laptop via the USB dongle and to my 
iPhone via Bluetooth and quite like this. I can also wear them for a 
long time and find them comfortable.


They do, however, not block out a lot of outside noise, but for me 
that is not an issue. If I really want this it is usually when I am 
working with one of my machines in my woodworking shop and for that I 
have a pair of ear protectors which are of course over the ear, lots 
of insulation, but they are also Bluetooth so I can listen to a book 

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, I agree with both Sieghard and Robin, except that I don't think 
what Sieghard says is only said about the blind. There are plenty of 
discussions about people doing more and more things alone on their own 
individual device and not socializing with others which are having all 
sorts of impacts on people's socialization and other skills. I'm not 
saying this is all negative. I was just listening to a podcast where 
someone was saying he can remember how the TV was going to destroy our 
social fabric because people were just going to stay in their homes 
instead of going out to seak entertainment and socialize. Now he says, 
those were actaully the golden days of bringing families together 
because now everyone just goes off into their own room with their own 
device. This podcast was intended for the genral public and not the 
blind, so it isn't true that people only worry about the blind losing 
their socialization skills with services like this.



On 7/22/19 7:42 AM, Marie wrote:

Well said, Robin.
I am also very social and active but live alone, am totally blind, do 
not live in a small town and the grocery delivery is a huge benefit 
for me.

Marie


-Original Message- From: Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings the "Store to your Door"


Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out 
from time
to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to 
this,

but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and
exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way 
that

might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life 
easier
whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you clean 
come up
people even within our own communities would say such things implying 
that
those who use such services don't also do so via other means or should 
need
to justify why they make use of such conveniences when sighted 
counterparts

would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they
probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such 
comments
to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such would be 
said in

relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from 
home
whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the 
like and

I also am found to be out and about in all manner of situations quite
frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other 
store

iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than even the
websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't choose the
color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so
with ease using Voiceover within their app.

So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no
apologies for it.
Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"

And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service and
delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low 
delivery
fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to get $20 
or $25

worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service 
provided by
our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and if I call 
Safeway
and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a few items on my way 
home"
the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, hang on for a sec so I can get a 
piece

of paper and a pen". It so happens that I walk right by Safeway on my way
home from my store, it takes me about 8 minutes to walk from my store to
Safeway and another 10 from there home. If I call a few minutes before I
leave and give them 15 or 20 minutes my order is usually waiting for 
me at

the customer service counter by the time I get there. If I am at home and
have a larger shop I want to do where maybe a friend can pick it up 
for me
or where I send a cab they'll also charge it to my credit card and for 
$11

our local taxi company goes there and picks it up for me.
Of course most people may not live in a place where they get such service
and in those cases a service like Shipt is amazing.
I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time
to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to 
this,

but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and
exercise is important.

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Christopher Chaltain]

And the thread was started by the moderator of the list.


On 7/22/19 6:39 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
I honestly thought that since Shipt is an IOS app that the discussion 
is valid.

I could be wrong.
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- Original Message - From: "Julie Dawson" 


To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings the "Store to your Door"




I googled the number for Shipt. It is:
205 502 2500

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- Original Message - From: "Dave" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings the "Store to your Door"




Sorry. I thought this was a list regarding the iPhone?

This thread, has gone on for about 3 days now.

Dave.


Dave.


-Original Message- From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings the "Store to your Door"


Also, some folks may realize that people may have more than one 
disability.

Also, I simply hate shopping and have never viewed shopping as a social
activity.  I do prefer dining in a restaurant as opposed to having
restaurant food delivered to home, but dining alone in a restaurant 
can be a

truly depressing experience.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Robin Frost" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings

the "Store to your Door"



Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out 
from time to time to interact with others, not only is there a 
social aspect to this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing 
and exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my 
way that might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life 
easier whether it be shop at home services or having someone help 
you clean come up people even within our own communities would say 
such things implying that those who use such services don't also do 
so via other means or should need to justify why they make use of 
such conveniences when sighted counterparts would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were 
they probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make 
such comments to sighted users of such services it makes me sad 
that such would be said in relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping 
from home whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or 
Amazon or the like and I also am found to be out and about in all 
manner of situations quite frequently. The two aren't mutually 
exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many 
other store iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more 
so than even the websites one can access via the pc. Just last 
night I couldn't choose the color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could 
do so with ease using Voiceover within their app.


So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no 
apologies for it.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings the "Store to your Door"


And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this 
service and delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a 
pretty low delivery fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab 
to the store to get $20 or $25 worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service 
provided by our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am 
and if I call Safeway and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick 
up a few items on my way home" the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, 
hang on for a sec so I can get a piece of paper and a pen". It so 
happens that I walk right by Safeway on my way home from my store, 
it takes me about 8 minutes to walk from my store to Safeway and 
another 10 from there home. If I call a few minutes before I leave 
and give them 15 or 20 minutes my order is usually waiting for me 
at the customer service counter by the time I get there. If 

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Dave]

Yeah but, when people, start to tell us, who they go shopping with, and what 
they buy, and such like. Then i would say, it's not valid.


It starts to sound like twitter, lol.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


I think it's perfectly valid.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


I honestly thought that since Shipt is an IOS app that the discussion is 
valid.

I could be wrong.
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- Original Message -
From: "Julie Dawson" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"




I googled the number for Shipt. It is:
205 502 2500

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- Original Message -
From: "Dave" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
Brings the "Store to your Door"



Sorry. I thought this was a list regarding the iPhone?

This thread, has gone on for about 3 days now.

Dave.


Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
Brings the "Store to your Door"

Also, some folks may realize that people may have more than one
disability.
Also, I simply hate shopping and have never viewed shopping as a
social activity.  I do prefer dining in a restaurant as opposed to
having restaurant food delivered to home, but dining alone in a
restaurant can be a truly depressing experience.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Robin Frost" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
Brings the "Store to your Door"



Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out
from time to time to interact with others, not only is there a
social aspect to this, but after all one cannot sit around at home
all day doing nothing and exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my
way that might not be the case for others. as such it saddens me
that whenever discussions of anything that makes life easier whether
it be shop at home services or having someone help you clean come up
people even within our own communities would say such things
implying that those who use such services don't also do so via other
means or should need to justify why they make use of such
conveniences when sighted counterparts would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were
they probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make
such comments to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that
such would be said in relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping
from home whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or
Amazon or the like and I also am found to be out and about in all
manner of situations quite frequently. The two aren't mutually 
exclusive.

To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other
store iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so
than even the websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I
couldn't choose the color of something at www.bedbathandbeyond.com
on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so with ease using
Voiceover within their app.

So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no
apologies for it.
Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
Brings the "Store to your Door"

And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service
and delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty
low delivery fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the
store to get $20 or $25 worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service
provided by our local grocery stores for free, they 

RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Larry Lumpkin]

I think it's perfectly valid.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the 
"Store to your Door"

I honestly thought that since Shipt is an IOS app that the discussion is valid.
I could be wrong.
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  Care  deeply,
  Speak  kindly
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- Original Message -
From: "Julie Dawson" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the 
"Store to your Door"


>I googled the number for Shipt. It is:
> 205 502 2500
>
> Live  simply,
>  Love generously,
>  Care  deeply,
>  Speak  kindly
>  And  leave the rest to God!
> Please join me on
> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com
> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together 
> we can build a site to be proud of.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
> Brings the "Store to your Door"
>
>
>> Sorry. I thought this was a list regarding the iPhone?
>>
>> This thread, has gone on for about 3 days now.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
>> Brings the "Store to your Door"
>>
>> Also, some folks may realize that people may have more than one 
>> disability.
>> Also, I simply hate shopping and have never viewed shopping as a 
>> social activity.  I do prefer dining in a restaurant as opposed to 
>> having restaurant food delivered to home, but dining alone in a 
>> restaurant can be a truly depressing experience.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Robin Frost" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
>> Brings the "Store to your Door"
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Sieghard says:
>>> "I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out 
>>> from time to time to interact with others, not only is there a 
>>> social aspect to this, but after all one cannot sit around at home 
>>> all day doing nothing and exercise is important."
>>> While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my 
>>> way that might not be the case for others. as such it saddens me 
>>> that whenever discussions of anything that makes life easier whether 
>>> it be shop at home services or having someone help you clean come up 
>>> people even within our own communities would say such things 
>>> implying that those who use such services don't also do so via other 
>>> means or should need to justify why they make use of such 
>>> conveniences when sighted counterparts would never need to do so.
>>> Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were 
>>> they probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make 
>>> such comments to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that 
>>> such would be said in relation to those who are blind.
>>> I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping 
>>> from home whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or 
>>> Amazon or the like and I also am found to be out and about in all 
>>> manner of situations quite frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
>>> To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other 
>>> store iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so 
>>> than even the websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I 
>>> couldn't choose the color of something at www.bedbathandbeyond.com 
>>> on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so with ease using 
>>> Voiceover within their app.
>>>
>>> So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no 
>>> apologies for it.
>>> Take good care.
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
>>> Brings the "Store to your Door"
>>>
>>> And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
>>> I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service 
>>> and delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty 
>>> low delivery fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the 
>>> store to get $20 or $25 worth of product?
>>> I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service 
>>> provided by our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am 
>>> and if I call Safeway and say "Hey, 

Re: voiceover issue after turning phone

[Richard Turner]

The number of times I have had VoiceOver go quiet on me could be counted on one 
hand.
When it does, it is usually waiting for an app, not when turning on.
If an XR is doing this, then something is really out of place.
What about resetting network settings, or resetting all settings?
A hard reset is fine, but if that doesn't work, try the network and/or all 
settings reset.
HTH,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> I haven’t exactly seen that. I have had voiceover go silent from time to time 
> where I still get the voiceover sounds, but no speech. Generally speaking, if 
> I start my phone, voiceover is right there where it should be. Also, when it 
> happens that voiceover stops talking, turning it off and back on again 
> generally solves it.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey everyone, this happens with all three of my iphones, iphone XR, iphone 8 
>> and iphone SE, although it is the worst with my XR. Here is the issue. When 
>> I turn on the phone it starts up as normal but there is no speech from 
>> voiceover. The phone is not muted and when I swipe around the screen, the 
>> voiceover sound effects are there but there is no speech for several 
>> minutes. Turning voiceover off and back on does not help either. Sometimes 
>> it can literally take several minutes before the speech starts working. I 
>> have tried the Tom and Alex voices and the same thing happens. I've thought 
>> about hard resetting my phone but was wondering if anyone has seen this 
>> issue before I do that. Suffice it to say that it is quite annoying.
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IOS 12.4 is out

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It's running well on my 10R.

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Re: App to send email or text automatically

[TaraPrakash]

I believe the shortcut app can be useful for you but not sure about the steps. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 3:48 AM, Dan Rathburn  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Looking for an IOS app that will send a pre-written text or email to a list 
> of recipients at a specific time of day. the message would be sent only after 
> I gave consent first. Basically, I live alone and I have relatives that 
> complain that I don't communicate often enough to let them know that I'm in 
> need of assistance. I've tried a couple of searches at the app store without 
> success. I'm not sure what search terms to use.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> The nice thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or 
> not. 
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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, I am learning a lot from this discussion.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Julie Dawson" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"



I honestly thought that since Shipt is an IOS app that the discussion is 
valid.

I could be wrong.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Julie Dawson" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"




I googled the number for Shipt. It is:
205 502 2500

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- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"




Sorry. I thought this was a list regarding the iPhone?

This thread, has gone on for about 3 days now.

Dave.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings the "Store to your Door"


Also, some folks may realize that people may have more than one 
disability.

Also, I simply hate shopping and have never viewed shopping as a social
activity.  I do prefer dining in a restaurant as opposed to having
restaurant food delivered to home, but dining alone in a restaurant can 
be a

truly depressing experience.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Frost" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings

the "Store to your Door"



Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect 
to this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and 
exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way 
that might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life 
easier whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you 
clean come up people even within our own communities would say such 
things implying that those who use such services don't also do so via 
other means or should need to justify why they make use of such 
conveniences when sighted counterparts would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they 
probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such 
comments to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such 
would be said in relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from 
home whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the 
like and I also am found to be out and about in all manner of 
situations quite frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other 
store iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than 
even the websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't 
choose the color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do 
so with ease using Voiceover within their app.


So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no 
apologies for it.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings the "Store to your Door"


And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service 
and delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low 
delivery fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to 
get $20 or $25 worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service 
provided by our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and 
if I call Safeway and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a 
few items on my way home" the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, hang on 
for a sec so I can get a piece of paper and a pen". It so happens that 
I walk right by Safeway on my way home from my store, it takes me about 
8 minutes to walk from my store to Safeway and another 10 from there 
home. If 

Re: voiceover issue after turning phone

[Mary Otten]

Hi Mike,
I haven’t exactly seen that. I have had voiceover go silent from time to time 
where I still get the voiceover sounds, but no speech. Generally speaking, if I 
start my phone, voiceover is right there where it should be. Also, when it 
happens that voiceover stops talking, turning it off and back on again 
generally solves it.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone, this happens with all three of my iphones, iphone XR, iphone 8 
> and iphone SE, although it is the worst with my XR. Here is the issue. When I 
> turn on the phone it starts up as normal but there is no speech from 
> voiceover. The phone is not muted and when I swipe around the screen, the 
> voiceover sound effects are there but there is no speech for several minutes. 
> Turning voiceover off and back on does not help either. Sometimes it can 
> literally take several minutes before the speech starts working. I have tried 
> the Tom and Alex voices and the same thing happens. I've thought about hard 
> resetting my phone but was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before I 
> do that. Suffice it to say that it is quite annoying.
> 
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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Julie Dawson]

I honestly thought that since Shipt is an IOS app that the discussion is 
valid.

I could be wrong.
Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!
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- Original Message - 
From: "Julie Dawson" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"




I googled the number for Shipt. It is:
205 502 2500

Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!
Please join me on
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where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we 
can build a site to be proud of.



- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"




Sorry. I thought this was a list regarding the iPhone?

This thread, has gone on for about 3 days now.

Dave.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Also, some folks may realize that people may have more than one 
disability.

Also, I simply hate shopping and have never viewed shopping as a social
activity.  I do prefer dining in a restaurant as opposed to having
restaurant food delivered to home, but dining alone in a restaurant can 
be a

truly depressing experience.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Frost" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"



Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect 
to this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and 
exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way 
that might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life 
easier whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you 
clean come up people even within our own communities would say such 
things implying that those who use such services don't also do so via 
other means or should need to justify why they make use of such 
conveniences when sighted counterparts would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they 
probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such 
comments to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such 
would be said in relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from 
home whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the 
like and I also am found to be out and about in all manner of situations 
quite frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other 
store iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than 
even the websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't 
choose the color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do 
so with ease using Voiceover within their app.


So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no 
apologies for it.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 
Brings the "Store to your Door"


And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service and 
delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low 
delivery fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to 
get $20 or $25 worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service 
provided by our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and if 
I call Safeway and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a few 
items on my way home" the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, hang on for a 
sec so I can get a piece of paper and a pen". It so happens that I walk 
right by Safeway on my way home from my store, it takes me about 8 
minutes to walk from my store to Safeway and another 10 from there home. 
If I call a few minutes before I leave and give them 15 or 20 minutes my 
order is usually waiting for me at the customer service counter by the 
time I get there. If I am at home and have a larger shop I want to do 
where maybe a friend can pick it up for me or 

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Julie Dawson]

I googled the number for Shipt. It is:
205 502 2500

Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!
Please join me on
www.gamesgaloreandmore.com
where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
build a site to be proud of.



- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"




Sorry. I thought this was a list regarding the iPhone?

This thread, has gone on for about 3 days now.

Dave.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Also, some folks may realize that people may have more than one 
disability.

Also, I simply hate shopping and have never viewed shopping as a social
activity.  I do prefer dining in a restaurant as opposed to having
restaurant food delivered to home, but dining alone in a restaurant can be 
a

truly depressing experience.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Frost" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"



Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect 
to this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and 
exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way 
that might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life 
easier whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you 
clean come up people even within our own communities would say such 
things implying that those who use such services don't also do so via 
other means or should need to justify why they make use of such 
conveniences when sighted counterparts would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they 
probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such 
comments to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such 
would be said in relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from 
home whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the 
like and I also am found to be out and about in all manner of situations 
quite frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other 
store iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than 
even the websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't 
choose the color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so 
with ease using Voiceover within their app.


So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no 
apologies for it.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service and 
delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low 
delivery fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to 
get $20 or $25 worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service provided 
by our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and if I call 
Safeway and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a few items on 
my way home" the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, hang on for a sec so I 
can get a piece of paper and a pen". It so happens that I walk right by 
Safeway on my way home from my store, it takes me about 8 minutes to walk 
from my store to Safeway and another 10 from there home. If I call a few 
minutes before I leave and give them 15 or 20 minutes my order is usually 
waiting for me at the customer service counter by the time I get there. 
If I am at home and have a larger shop I want to do where maybe a friend 
can pick it up for me or where I send a cab they'll also charge it to my 
credit card and for $11 our local taxi company goes there and picks it up 
for me.
Of course most people may not live in a place where they get such service 
and in those cases a service like Shipt is amazing.
I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect 
to this, but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing 
nothing and exercise is important.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original 

voiceover issue after turning phone

[Mike Arrigo]

Hey everyone, this happens with all three of my iphones, iphone XR, 
iphone 8 and iphone SE, although it is the worst with my XR. Here is 
the issue. When I turn on the phone it starts up as normal but there is 
no speech from voiceover. The phone is not muted and when I swipe 
around the screen, the voiceover sound effects are there but there is 
no speech for several minutes. Turning voiceover off and back on does 
not help either. Sometimes it can literally take several minutes before 
the speech starts working. I have tried the Tom and Alex voices and the 
same thing happens. I've thought about hard resetting my phone but was 
wondering if anyone has seen this issue before I do that. Suffice it to 
say that it is quite annoying.


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App to send email or text automatically

[Dan Rathburn]

Hi,

Looking for an IOS app that will send a pre-written text or email to a list 
of recipients at a specific time of day. the message would be sent only 
after I gave consent first. Basically, I live alone and I have relatives 
that complain that I don't communicate often enough to let them know that 
I'm in need of assistance. I've tried a couple of searches at the app store 
without success. I'm not sure what search terms to use.


Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards,

Dan



The nice thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or 
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Re: Adding voice over accessibility to a game

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I believe AppleVis has a section with resources for developers. That might be a 
good resource to recommend.

Best,
Anna
 

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 2:31 PM, James English  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You would be better served by making a thread on the forum and asking
> there. Otherwise I'll be playing messenger boy and things could get
> mangled.
> 
> On 7/22/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Try sending them this link,
>> https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
>> indistinguishable from magic."
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 12:11 PM, James English
>> mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You might want to ask on forum.audiogames.net.
>> It's where the people
>> who are involved with audiogame development live.
>> 
>> On 7/22/19, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I am currently in discussion with a developer who want to know more about
>> making their existing games work with voice over. The games involve a lot
>> of
>> text so it is definitely possible. In fact earlier iterations of the game
>> were developed by a different company and were accessible.
>> They have asked me if there are resources out there to explain more about
>> voice over and developing with it. So any links you can give me that
>> discuss
>> voice over from a more technical development point of view would be really
>> useful.
>> Thanks
>> Richard
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Adding voice over accessibility to a game

[James English]

Hi,

You would be better served by making a thread on the forum and asking
there. Otherwise I'll be playing messenger boy and things could get
mangled.

On 7/22/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Try sending them this link,
> https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
> indistinguishable from magic."
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 12:11 PM, James English
> mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You might want to ask on forum.audiogames.net.
> It's where the people
> who are involved with audiogame development live.
>
> On 7/22/19, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> Hi all.
> I am currently in discussion with a developer who want to know more about
> making their existing games work with voice over. The games involve a lot
> of
> text so it is definitely possible. In fact earlier iterations of the game
> were developed by a different company and were accessible.
> They have asked me if there are resources out there to explain more about
> voice over and developing with it. So any links you can give me that
> discuss
> voice over from a more technical development point of view would be really
> useful.
> Thanks
> Richard
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Adding voice over accessibility to a game

[Richard Turner]

Try sending them this link,
https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/




Richard

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On Jul 22, 2019, at 12:11 PM, James English 
mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

You might want to ask on forum.audiogames.net. 
It's where the people
who are involved with audiogame development live.

On 7/22/19, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi all.
I am currently in discussion with a developer who want to know more about
making their existing games work with voice over. The games involve a lot of
text so it is definitely possible. In fact earlier iterations of the game
were developed by a different company and were accessible.
They have asked me if there are resources out there to explain more about
voice over and developing with it. So any links you can give me that discuss
voice over from a more technical development point of view would be really
useful.
Thanks
Richard

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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Dave]

Sorry. I thought this was a list regarding the iPhone?

This thread, has gone on for about 3 days now.

Dave.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Also, some folks may realize that people may have more than one disability.
Also, I simply hate shopping and have never viewed shopping as a social
activity.  I do prefer dining in a restaurant as opposed to having
restaurant food delivered to home, but dining alone in a restaurant can be a
truly depressing experience.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Frost" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"



Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to 
this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and 
exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way 
that might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life easier 
whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you clean come 
up people even within our own communities would say such things implying 
that those who use such services don't also do so via other means or 
should need to justify why they make use of such conveniences when sighted 
counterparts would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they 
probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such 
comments to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such would 
be said in relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from 
home whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the 
like and I also am found to be out and about in all manner of situations 
quite frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other store 
iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than even the 
websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't choose the 
color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so 
with ease using Voiceover within their app.


So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no 
apologies for it.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service and 
delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low 
delivery fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to get 
$20 or $25 worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service provided 
by our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and if I call 
Safeway and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a few items on my 
way home" the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, hang on for a sec so I can 
get a piece of paper and a pen". It so happens that I walk right by 
Safeway on my way home from my store, it takes me about 8 minutes to walk 
from my store to Safeway and another 10 from there home. If I call a few 
minutes before I leave and give them 15 or 20 minutes my order is usually 
waiting for me at the customer service counter by the time I get there. If 
I am at home and have a larger shop I want to do where maybe a friend can 
pick it up for me or where I send a cab they'll also charge it to my 
credit card and for $11 our local taxi company goes there and picks it up 
for me.
Of course most people may not live in a place where they get such service 
and in those cases a service like Shipt is amazing.
I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to 
this, but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing 
and exercise is important.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


This is mentioned in the article below. When I looked into this issue, I 
found most of these services do charge membership fees, either monthly or 
annually. What are the totally accessible shopping services that don't 
charge any monthly or 

Re: Adding voice over accessibility to a game

[James English]

Hi,

You might want to ask on forum.audiogames.net. It's where the people
who are involved with audiogame development live.

On 7/22/19, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi all.
> I am currently in discussion with a developer who want to know more about
> making their existing games work with voice over. The games involve a lot of
> text so it is definitely possible. In fact earlier iterations of the game
> were developed by a different company and were accessible.
> They have asked me if there are resources out there to explain more about
> voice over and developing with it. So any links you can give me that discuss
> voice over from a more technical development point of view would be really
> useful.
> Thanks
> Richard
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Adding voice over accessibility to a game

['Richard Claridge' via VIPhone]

Hi all.
I am currently in discussion with a developer who want to know more about 
making their existing games work with voice over. The games involve a lot of 
text so it is definitely possible. In fact earlier iterations of the game were 
developed by a different company and were accessible.
They have asked me if there are resources out there to explain more about voice 
over and developing with it. So any links you can give me that discuss voice 
over from a more technical development point of view would be really useful.
Thanks
Richard

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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Andy Baracco]

Also, some folks may realize that people may have more than one disability. 
Also, I simply hate shopping and have never viewed shopping as a social 
activity.  I do prefer dining in a restaurant as opposed to having 
restaurant food delivered to home, but dining alone in a restaurant can be a 
truly depressing experience.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Frost" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"




Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to 
this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and 
exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way 
that might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life easier 
whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you clean come 
up people even within our own communities would say such things implying 
that those who use such services don't also do so via other means or 
should need to justify why they make use of such conveniences when sighted 
counterparts would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they 
probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such 
comments to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such would 
be said in relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from 
home whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the 
like and I also am found to be out and about in all manner of situations 
quite frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other store 
iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than even the 
websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't choose the 
color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so 
with ease using Voiceover within their app.


So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no 
apologies for it.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service and 
delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low 
delivery fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to get 
$20 or $25 worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service provided 
by our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and if I call 
Safeway and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a few items on my 
way home" the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, hang on for a sec so I can 
get a piece of paper and a pen". It so happens that I walk right by 
Safeway on my way home from my store, it takes me about 8 minutes to walk 
from my store to Safeway and another 10 from there home. If I call a few 
minutes before I leave and give them 15 or 20 minutes my order is usually 
waiting for me at the customer service counter by the time I get there. If 
I am at home and have a larger shop I want to do where maybe a friend can 
pick it up for me or where I send a cab they'll also charge it to my 
credit card and for $11 our local taxi company goes there and picks it up 
for me.
Of course most people may not live in a place where they get such service 
and in those cases a service like Shipt is amazing.
I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from 
time to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to 
this, but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing 
and exercise is important.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


This is mentioned in the article below. When I looked into this issue, I 
found most of these services do charge membership fees, either monthly or 
annually. What are the totally accessible shopping services that don't 
charge any monthly or annual fees? Here's one article I found talking 
about the annual or monthly fees charged by these services 
https://www.consumerreports.org/online-grocery-services/grocery-delivery-services-review/




On 7/21/19 2:33 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Keep in mind that unlike other shopping apps, Shipt charges a $99 per
year membership 

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Julie Dawson]

I know there used to be a telephone number when I applied around a year and 
a half ago but I can't find it now.


Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!
Please join me on
www.gamesgaloreandmore.com
where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
build a site to be proud of.



- Original Message - 
From: "Mama Peach" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"



I know when my mom needed to cancel her membership, she had to email them 
in order to do so, we could not find a phone number.


-Original Message- 
From: Julie Dawson

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Does Shipt have a contact telephone number?
With thanks,
Julie
Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!
Please join me on
www.gamesgaloreandmore.com
where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we 
can

build a site to be proud of.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kenny" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"



Really nicely done on your part.


I been grocery shopping online using ShopRite.com Home Delivery service 
for a few years now, and love it. Able to browse their weekly sales 
circular, take advantage of digital coupons, and learn the nutrition 
facts for any product. The $10 delivery fee is waved if my bill reaches 
$200 (Which it always does.) If I need specialty items I get them off of 
Amazon.com. Have a Prime account and never pay for shipping.



On 7/21/2019 3:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store 
to

your Door"
By Deborah Kendrick
American Foundation for the Blind

Consider a few scenarios.
You have just moved into your college dorm and you realize that you 
forgot
shampoo, your favorite energy bars, sheets for your bed, or treats for 
your

guide dog.

You're in your dentist's waiting room, and you get a text reminder that
three friends are coming over for dinner and you don't have time to get 
the

necessary groceries.

You just plain find going to the grocery store complicated and time
consuming and wish someone could do it for you.
The resounding solution to each of these dilemmas could well be a 
business
called Shipt, a service whose motto is: "We bring the store to your 
door."

Imagine shopping on your mobile phone or laptop for everything from
groceries to party decorations to pet food or toilet paper, and having 
it at

your door in as little as an hour.

What is Shipt?
Shipt Inc. was launched in 2014 by chief executive Bill Smith in 
Birmingham,

Alabama. In December 2017, the grocery delivery service company was
purchased for $550 million by Target. By the end of 2018, Shipt.com had 
a
cadre of over 50,000 shoppers nationwide delivering groceries, pet 
supplies,
household goods and more directly to customers' doors, saving busy 
people
the time and trouble of cruising grocery and retail aisles. For those of 
us
who are blind or low vision, this service is arguably a superior method 
to
traditional shopping since it affords us the opportunity to browse 
products,
read descriptions, and compare prices in a way not necessarily available 
to

us when shopping on site.
Shopping with Shipt can be done on a computer or through an iOS or 
Android

app. This article will deal primarily with the iOS version. The stores
included in the app vary from city to city, although Target seems to be
available in any area in which Shipt has launched, as is CVS. Some 
locations

list 6 to 8 available stores while others offer only two or three. New
locations are added every week, however, so the likelihood of it being
within the reach of most US readers of AccessWorld is excellent.
The Shipt Shopping Experience

Let's first look at the experience from the perspective of a customer 
who
has already created an account and used the service at least once. Let's 
say
we are in an area where Kroger is the primary grocery store. (Those of 
you

who live in areas served by Publix, Meijer, Winn-Dixie, Lucky's Market,
Fresh Market, or a host of others need not worry. Shipt shops at these 
and

other stores as well.)
Waiting for a meeting to begin one morning, I have 15 minutes to spare 
and

open the Shipt app on my iPhone. It immediately shows me my own delivery
address and the next available delivery time from Kroger (usually within 
the
next 90 minutes.) Satisfied with my own delivery address and the 
selected

store, I begin shopping.

A number of quick links appear. The first of these is Buy Again. Others
include On Sale, Browse, Favorites, and categories such as Dairy, 
Produce,

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Holly]

Julie:

Just do a Google search for it and you will find a place to enter your zip 
code.  Then you can find out if it is in your area and which stores it has 
service with. 


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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Mama Peach]

I know when my mom needed to cancel her membership, she had to email them in 
order to do so, we could not find a phone number.


-Original Message- 
From: Julie Dawson

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Does Shipt have a contact telephone number?
With thanks,
Julie
Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!
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where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can
build a site to be proud of.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kenny" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"



Really nicely done on your part.


I been grocery shopping online using ShopRite.com Home Delivery service 
for a few years now, and love it. Able to browse their weekly sales 
circular, take advantage of digital coupons, and learn the nutrition facts 
for any product. The $10 delivery fee is waved if my bill reaches $200 
(Which it always does.) If I need specialty items I get them off of 
Amazon.com. Have a Prime account and never pay for shipping.



On 7/21/2019 3:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store 
to

your Door"
By Deborah Kendrick
American Foundation for the Blind

Consider a few scenarios.
You have just moved into your college dorm and you realize that you 
forgot
shampoo, your favorite energy bars, sheets for your bed, or treats for 
your

guide dog.

You're in your dentist's waiting room, and you get a text reminder that
three friends are coming over for dinner and you don't have time to get 
the

necessary groceries.

You just plain find going to the grocery store complicated and time
consuming and wish someone could do it for you.
The resounding solution to each of these dilemmas could well be a 
business
called Shipt, a service whose motto is: "We bring the store to your 
door."

Imagine shopping on your mobile phone or laptop for everything from
groceries to party decorations to pet food or toilet paper, and having it 
at

your door in as little as an hour.

What is Shipt?
Shipt Inc. was launched in 2014 by chief executive Bill Smith in 
Birmingham,

Alabama. In December 2017, the grocery delivery service company was
purchased for $550 million by Target. By the end of 2018, Shipt.com had a
cadre of over 50,000 shoppers nationwide delivering groceries, pet 
supplies,

household goods and more directly to customers' doors, saving busy people
the time and trouble of cruising grocery and retail aisles. For those of 
us
who are blind or low vision, this service is arguably a superior method 
to
traditional shopping since it affords us the opportunity to browse 
products,
read descriptions, and compare prices in a way not necessarily available 
to

us when shopping on site.
Shopping with Shipt can be done on a computer or through an iOS or 
Android

app. This article will deal primarily with the iOS version. The stores
included in the app vary from city to city, although Target seems to be
available in any area in which Shipt has launched, as is CVS. Some 
locations

list 6 to 8 available stores while others offer only two or three. New
locations are added every week, however, so the likelihood of it being
within the reach of most US readers of AccessWorld is excellent.
The Shipt Shopping Experience

Let's first look at the experience from the perspective of a customer who
has already created an account and used the service at least once. Let's 
say
we are in an area where Kroger is the primary grocery store. (Those of 
you

who live in areas served by Publix, Meijer, Winn-Dixie, Lucky's Market,
Fresh Market, or a host of others need not worry. Shipt shops at these 
and

other stores as well.)
Waiting for a meeting to begin one morning, I have 15 minutes to spare 
and

open the Shipt app on my iPhone. It immediately shows me my own delivery
address and the next available delivery time from Kroger (usually within 
the

next 90 minutes.) Satisfied with my own delivery address and the selected
store, I begin shopping.

A number of quick links appear. The first of these is Buy Again. Others
include On Sale, Browse, Favorites, and categories such as Dairy, 
Produce,

Frozen, Bakery, and Pantry..
Typically, I start my shopping with Buy Again. Here, every item I have
previously purchased will appear. Let's say the first item is 
Blueberries.

Next to the name Blueberries are the words "6 ounces, price $4.69, Open
Product Detail."

Below this item description will be an Add 1 button. To add the item to 
the

cart, simply double tap the Add 1 button. Later, if you change your mind,
removing the item from your list is just as easy as adding it. Continuing
down the list of items previously purchased - milk, bananas, Swiss 

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Julie Dawson]

Does Shipt have a contact telephone number?
With thanks,
Julie
Live  simply,
 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
 And  leave the rest to God!
Please join me on
www.gamesgaloreandmore.com
where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
build a site to be proud of.



- Original Message - 
From: "Kenny" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"




Really nicely done on your part.


I been grocery shopping online using ShopRite.com Home Delivery service 
for a few years now, and love it. Able to browse their weekly sales 
circular, take advantage of digital coupons, and learn the nutrition facts 
for any product. The $10 delivery fee is waved if my bill reaches $200 
(Which it always does.) If I need specialty items I get them off of 
Amazon.com. Have a Prime account and never pay for shipping.



On 7/21/2019 3:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store 
to

your Door"
By Deborah Kendrick
American Foundation for the Blind

Consider a few scenarios.
You have just moved into your college dorm and you realize that you 
forgot
shampoo, your favorite energy bars, sheets for your bed, or treats for 
your

guide dog.

You're in your dentist's waiting room, and you get a text reminder that
three friends are coming over for dinner and you don't have time to get 
the

necessary groceries.

You just plain find going to the grocery store complicated and time
consuming and wish someone could do it for you.
The resounding solution to each of these dilemmas could well be a 
business
called Shipt, a service whose motto is: "We bring the store to your 
door."

Imagine shopping on your mobile phone or laptop for everything from
groceries to party decorations to pet food or toilet paper, and having it 
at

your door in as little as an hour.

What is Shipt?
Shipt Inc. was launched in 2014 by chief executive Bill Smith in 
Birmingham,

Alabama. In December 2017, the grocery delivery service company was
purchased for $550 million by Target. By the end of 2018, Shipt.com had a
cadre of over 50,000 shoppers nationwide delivering groceries, pet 
supplies,

household goods and more directly to customers' doors, saving busy people
the time and trouble of cruising grocery and retail aisles. For those of 
us
who are blind or low vision, this service is arguably a superior method 
to
traditional shopping since it affords us the opportunity to browse 
products,
read descriptions, and compare prices in a way not necessarily available 
to

us when shopping on site.
Shopping with Shipt can be done on a computer or through an iOS or 
Android

app. This article will deal primarily with the iOS version. The stores
included in the app vary from city to city, although Target seems to be
available in any area in which Shipt has launched, as is CVS. Some 
locations

list 6 to 8 available stores while others offer only two or three. New
locations are added every week, however, so the likelihood of it being
within the reach of most US readers of AccessWorld is excellent.
The Shipt Shopping Experience

Let's first look at the experience from the perspective of a customer who
has already created an account and used the service at least once. Let's 
say
we are in an area where Kroger is the primary grocery store. (Those of 
you

who live in areas served by Publix, Meijer, Winn-Dixie, Lucky's Market,
Fresh Market, or a host of others need not worry. Shipt shops at these 
and

other stores as well.)
Waiting for a meeting to begin one morning, I have 15 minutes to spare 
and

open the Shipt app on my iPhone. It immediately shows me my own delivery
address and the next available delivery time from Kroger (usually within 
the

next 90 minutes.) Satisfied with my own delivery address and the selected
store, I begin shopping.

A number of quick links appear. The first of these is Buy Again. Others
include On Sale, Browse, Favorites, and categories such as Dairy, 
Produce,

Frozen, Bakery, and Pantry..
Typically, I start my shopping with Buy Again. Here, every item I have
previously purchased will appear. Let's say the first item is 
Blueberries.

Next to the name Blueberries are the words "6 ounces, price $4.69, Open
Product Detail."

Below this item description will be an Add 1 button. To add the item to 
the

cart, simply double tap the Add 1 button. Later, if you change your mind,
removing the item from your list is just as easy as adding it. Continuing
down the list of items previously purchased - milk, bananas, Swiss 
cheese,
and so on - I simply double tap the Add 1 button for any desired items. 
To

learn more about an item, double tap its name, which includes the Open
Product Detail invitation. While not all items have information on this
screen, the majority of products do.

I have never purchased Eggo's Mini Pancakes. The product detail reads, in

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Mama Peach]

I have never seen anything on any of the stores about using coupons.

-Original Message- 
From: Cristobal Munoz

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Good to know, thanks. I guess what I really meant were things like coupons 
and such.



On Jul 22, 2019, at 3:40 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:

There is a section for each store that offers on sale items.

-Original Message- From: Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Yup. My wife's sighted and she more or less does all the shopping, but if 
I were alone or if we were both blind or even say if we had kids and 
didn't want to deal with trying to carve out time to make a grocery run 
with a carrier in tow, we'd probably opt for this, but as it is, she likes 
going to Aldi and Sprouts and so on to see what they have.
The only other drawback perhaps is that more often than not, we're always 
going to pay full price on stuff. Unless there's a way to somehow include 
any running sales or discounts?


Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Holly

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 5:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Cristóbal:


I am with you!  I hate going to Costco, and have found that I can get a 
lot of their products from the online ordering service and get free 
shipping.
Items may be a few pennies higher, but the convenience is worth a little 
bit more, so now we go fewer times a year to stock up on meat, and a few 
things they don't have at Costco.com.


Holly

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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Kenny]

Really nicely done on your part.


I been grocery shopping online using ShopRite.com Home Delivery service 
for a few years now, and love it. Able to browse their weekly sales 
circular, take advantage of digital coupons, and learn the nutrition 
facts for any product. The $10 delivery fee is waved if my bill reaches 
$200 (Which it always does.) If I need specialty items I get them off of 
Amazon.com. Have a Prime account and never pay for shipping.



On 7/21/2019 3:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to
your Door"
By Deborah Kendrick
American Foundation for the Blind

Consider a few scenarios.
You have just moved into your college dorm and you realize that you forgot
shampoo, your favorite energy bars, sheets for your bed, or treats for your
guide dog.

You're in your dentist's waiting room, and you get a text reminder that
three friends are coming over for dinner and you don't have time to get the
necessary groceries.

You just plain find going to the grocery store complicated and time
consuming and wish someone could do it for you.
The resounding solution to each of these dilemmas could well be a business
called Shipt, a service whose motto is: "We bring the store to your door."
Imagine shopping on your mobile phone or laptop for everything from
groceries to party decorations to pet food or toilet paper, and having it at
your door in as little as an hour.

What is Shipt?
Shipt Inc. was launched in 2014 by chief executive Bill Smith in Birmingham,
Alabama. In December 2017, the grocery delivery service company was
purchased for $550 million by Target. By the end of 2018, Shipt.com had a
cadre of over 50,000 shoppers nationwide delivering groceries, pet supplies,
household goods and more directly to customers' doors, saving busy people
the time and trouble of cruising grocery and retail aisles. For those of us
who are blind or low vision, this service is arguably a superior method to
traditional shopping since it affords us the opportunity to browse products,
read descriptions, and compare prices in a way not necessarily available to
us when shopping on site.
Shopping with Shipt can be done on a computer or through an iOS or Android
app. This article will deal primarily with the iOS version. The stores
included in the app vary from city to city, although Target seems to be
available in any area in which Shipt has launched, as is CVS. Some locations
list 6 to 8 available stores while others offer only two or three. New
locations are added every week, however, so the likelihood of it being
within the reach of most US readers of AccessWorld is excellent.
The Shipt Shopping Experience

Let's first look at the experience from the perspective of a customer who
has already created an account and used the service at least once. Let's say
we are in an area where Kroger is the primary grocery store. (Those of you
who live in areas served by Publix, Meijer, Winn-Dixie, Lucky's Market,
Fresh Market, or a host of others need not worry. Shipt shops at these and
other stores as well.)
Waiting for a meeting to begin one morning, I have 15 minutes to spare and
open the Shipt app on my iPhone. It immediately shows me my own delivery
address and the next available delivery time from Kroger (usually within the
next 90 minutes.) Satisfied with my own delivery address and the selected
store, I begin shopping.

A number of quick links appear. The first of these is Buy Again. Others
include On Sale, Browse, Favorites, and categories such as Dairy, Produce,
Frozen, Bakery, and Pantry..
Typically, I start my shopping with Buy Again. Here, every item I have
previously purchased will appear. Let's say the first item is Blueberries.
Next to the name Blueberries are the words "6 ounces, price $4.69, Open
Product Detail."

Below this item description will be an Add 1 button. To add the item to the
cart, simply double tap the Add 1 button. Later, if you change your mind,
removing the item from your list is just as easy as adding it. Continuing
down the list of items previously purchased - milk, bananas, Swiss cheese,
and so on - I simply double tap the Add 1 button for any desired items. To
learn more about an item, double tap its name, which includes the Open
Product Detail invitation. While not all items have information on this
screen, the majority of products do.

I have never purchased Eggo's Mini Pancakes. The product detail reads, in
part, "Eggo's mini pancakes are a great tasting breakfast option ... Drizzle
with syrup, top them with fruit, slather on some peanut butter ... or enjoy
them for dinner."

Nutrition information appears here as well. For some products, this screen
will also include the product directions for microwave and oven. There is an
Add 1 button on this screen for quickly adding the product to your cart, and
a Close Product Details button in the upper left corner of the screen to
return to browsing in the same category or another. In every list, 

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Kay Malmquist]

Do you use Costco's app or just go on line?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Before you react, think.
Before you spend, earn.
Before you criticize, wait.
Before you quit, try.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Holly" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Janet:

Costco is the online ordering supplier.  It is delivered by UPS or post
office.

Just sign up at Costco.com and set up your account, using your membership
number, then you can order from the online warehouse.  Lots of items are
free two day shipping, if you have an order over $75, and other items that
are regular three to five business days are always free shipping no matter
how small the order.

You will see all about that when you look at their website.

I recently checked the cost for a case of V-8 juice from the website,
compared to in the store, and the cost was $1 higher if ordered online, but
it comes free shipping right to your door.

I do imagine that some items are not shipped free, but, so far, all the
items I have purchased have come free.

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Re: Off-Topic: Article: A cure for blindness

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

- Original Message -
From: M. Taylor  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Monday, 15 July 2019 1.21 am
Subject: Off-Topic:  Article:  A cure for blindness

>
>
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> A list member sent the following article to me requesting that it be posted
> to the group despite the fact that it is not related to any Apple products.
> 
> Now while I am definitely not going to make a habit of posting such
> off-topic material to the list, in this instance, because the prospects of
> the technology are so far reaching, and because our group, in addition to
> being an Apple technology resource, also serves as a kind of community, I
> have decided to post it to the group.
> 
> Now I know that some of you may take exception to my decision to post this
> article and if so, please contact me, off-list.  
> 
> Also, I request that there be no on-list replies to this thread.  It is
> informational, only.  It is not intended to be a conversation starter.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Mark
> 
> A cure for blindness 
> By Ben Spencer 
> Daily Mail, Jul 12, 2019
>  
> A cure for blindness: Father, 35, who suddenly lost his sight aged nine is
> among six patients to have their vision restored by pioneering treatment
> that beams images directly into the brain 
> Doctors have restored sight to the blind by sending video images directly to
> the brain. 
> In a world-first that offers hope to millions of patients, five men and one
> woman have regained vision after years of 'living in the dark'. 
> They had electrode chips planted in the visual cortex at the back of their
> skulls that picked up images from a tiny video camera mounted in a pair of
> glasses. Their eyes were bypassed completely. 
> One of the participants, Benjamin James Spencer, who went blind aged nine,
> described his joy at seeing his wife and three daughters for the first time.
> 'It is awe inspiring to see so much beauty1' the 35-year-old told the Daily
> Mail last night. 'I could see the roundness of my wife's face, the shape of
> her body. 
> 'I could see my kids running up to give me a hug. It is not perfect vision -
> it is like grainy 1980s surveillance video footage. It may not be full
> vision yet, but it's something.' 
> Mr Spencer described how, when he was nine years old, his world went black. 
> 'It was September 18, 1992, a week after my birthday1' he said. 'I was at
> school leaving a class and in the time it took me to walk 50ft everything
> disappeared. 
> 'At first it started to go foggy and then a few paces later it was just
> dark. 
> 'I panicked and started screaming and kind of went into shock. Everything
> after that is pretty vague.' 
> In the coming days specialists at a hospital near his home in Texas broke
> the news that he would never see again. 
> 'I was told this was going to be my future. I was classed as lacking 100 per
> cent light perception. I was bl1' he said. 
> Mr Spencer had paediatric glaucoma, a rare condition caused by a defect in
> the eye's drainage system. 
> It had been incurable but scientists have now managed to bypass the broken
> link by sending images directly to the visual cortex, the part of the brain
> responsible for sight. 
> Mr Spencer lives in the city of Pearland, near Houston, with his wife
> Jeanette, 42, and daughters Abigail, 15, Melissa, 13, and Jane, ten. In
> April 2018, he became one of just six people to have a 60-electrode panel
> implanted in the back of his brain. 
> Surgeons at Baylor Medical College in Houston spent two hours cutting a
> window in his skull, placing the electrode array on the surface of the
> brain, and stitching it up again. They then spent six months 'mapping' his
> visual field. 
> This involved sending computer signals to the stimulation panel in his head
> to synchronise his brain to the real world--in effect teaching his visual
> cortex to process images again. 
> Eventually, in October, the device was wirelessly connected to a tiny video
> camera, mounted in a pair of glasses, and switched on. He saw his wife and
> three children for the very first time. 
> 'It was an incredible moment1' he told the Daily Mail. 'It was very
> humbling.' 
> Describing catching a glimpse of the sun through the window, he said: 'Such
> a tiny thing is normal for people who have vision. But I had not seen the
> sun since I was nine years old. I had felt its heat, but actually seeing it
> was incredible. After 25 and a half years of living in the dark, it is awe
> inspiring to see so much beauty.' 
> In January, after months of hospital testing, he was allowed to take the
> device home. The terms of the clinical trial means he can only switch it on
> for three hours a day, but he makes the most of it. 'I usually use it for 45
> minutes at a time and space it ou1' he said. 'If I want to go to the store
> or if one of my kids has a performance. 
> 'It is not perfect vision--it is like grainy 1980s surveillance video
> footage1' he said. 
> 'I can see silhouettes, I can 

RE: Recommendations needed for noise-canceling headphones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, they are “over the ear” so your ears are completely inside and from what I 
have seen every noise cancelling headset has that design since otherwise it 
won’t really be effective in blocking out external noise.
I think if you want a set like this for occasional use the Boltunes would fill 
the bill nicely especially since you are not spending $300 for something you 
only use rarely.
I hardly ever use a headset for Jaws at work. If I am in my office I am usually 
by myself unless my wife or another employee is reading information from 
invoices to me which I am entering into my bookkeeping program or if we are 
doing orders and if I am at my desk in the store my employees and customers 
just have to put up with hearing Eloquence, I don’t have it that loud and they 
are used to it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendations needed for noise-canceling headphones

Thanks for the run down.
It’s funny how we all have our own needs and criteria. I have the same Logitech 
headset and they’re fine, but I’m at my PC all day handling emails or phone 
calls for my business and having headphones on all day with Jaws can get kind 
of tiresome. I don’t use the Bluetooth feature with my phone though. For all 
day computer work, I opted to go with a pare of Aftershokz Sports headset with 
an inline microphone. They’re wired, but I don’t’ find it to be an 
inconvenience. That and Jaws chattering all day every day doesn’t tire my ears 
out this way and lets me still listen to whatever I want for pleasure in the 
evening or what have you. Audio quality isn’t the “best” with the wired Sports 
bone conduction headset, but for me at least, it’s more of a tool to get things 
done rather than listening pleasure.
My H800 headset more often than not is just hanging there next to my desk.
Regarding the Boltunes, did the ear cups completely cover your ears? Is it a 
fully immersive fit? I too find wearing headphones covering my ears can get hot 
after a while. This was another reason why I like using my Trekz Air all the 
time. There’s no way I could wear earbuds or on/over the ear ones while working 
out. That said, I was interested in maybe getting something  that would go over 
the ear completely for the times I wanted to block out other ambient noise 
without having to crank up the volume level on my iPhone. I wouldn’t’ use them 
enough for  me justifying dropping $200 plus for a pare.
Thanks again,

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendations needed for noise-canceling headphones

Hi Cristobal,

I ended up sending them back and not because of the fact they sounded bad or 
anything like that. The in fact sounded pretty good, the active noise 
cancelling feature seems to work as advertised although I have never used this 
feature on a high-end headset which costs $300 or $400.
The lack of lag I should say is super on these, I guess Bluetooth 5.0 in this 
case was implemented very well and when I tried them by typing something it was 
super responsive.
They are also comfortable to wear, but I am just not used to wearing over the 
ear headsets and found that after 10 minutes my ears were getting hot and I 
realized I would just never use these a lot.
I had also purchased a set of the Logitech H800 headsets which are on the ear, 
they are also lighter and you can use them with a PC via a USB receiver, the 
main slider switch has 3 positions, off on the bottom, Bluetooth in the middle 
and USB on top.
I now have these paired to my laptop via the USB dongle and to my iPhone via 
Bluetooth and quite like this. I can also wear them for a long time and find 
them comfortable.
They do, however, not block out a lot of outside noise, but for me that is not 
an issue. If I really want this it is usually when I am working with one of my 
machines in my woodworking shop and for that I have a pair of ear protectors 
which are of course over the ear, lots of insulation, but they are also 
Bluetooth so I can listen to a book while I am working or I’ll know when a call 
comes in.
I did not try the Boltunes on a phone call so I can’t speak for the call 
quality. All in all I think they are awesome if you want an over the ear 
headset, great battery life, good audio quality and Bluetooth 5.0.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendations needed for noise-canceling headphones

Hi Sieghard,
Was just wondering what your impressions on this headset ended up being? I’ve 
been considering 

RE: head not found

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, but he may think he is doing a 3-finger flick but only 1 finger may 
register, could be a dirty screen or inaccurate placement of the fingers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head not found

The rotor only responds to single finger flicks up and down, so if he is 
actually doing a three finger flick, it won't matter what the rotor is on.
HTH,


Richard

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> On Jul 21, 2019, at 2:53 PM, 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> It may be because in your rotor rotation you are accessing headings. If you 
> look there and change it to something like characters or words or actions it 
> will work and that will go away.
> 
> Sent from Gail’s iPhone
> 
> On Jul 21, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, when my clients are experiencing this kind of thing, it is because only 
> one finger is registering so VoiceOver is responding based on the rotor 
> position.
> So' make sure three fingers are actually making contact at the exact same 
> time.
> You could turn on practice mode with a 4 finger double tap to be sure"
> Otherwise, I have no idea how that could happen.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
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>> Hi list
>> I'm experiencing in my iphone that some times when I scrolup with 
>> three fingers, it says that heading not found.
>> Does anyone know what this is happening so often and what I should do 
>> to resolve it please?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
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RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Yes, we recently signed up for Instacart, and it was $99 for the year.  It is 
working out very well so far.

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Christopher Chaltain [chalt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mama Peach
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the 
"Store to your Door"

I posted a link to an article earlier that said InstaCart lowered their
price for InstaCart Express from $149 to $99 at the end of 2018.
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.produceretailer.com%2Farticle%2Fnews-article%2Finstacart-lowers-grocery-delivery-feedata=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C9a81b179dd854b3a23a408d70e465b79%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636993567671795656sdata=dzMluULiXwwc6YAjgnvYuR1uiORmubWUMVOfAM%2FuB60%3Dreserved=0


On 7/21/19 7:46 PM, Mama Peach wrote:
> Last time I looked, Instacart gave me a quote of $149 for a year.
> Maybe they have decreased that amount. I do hope so, $149 is a little
> high.
>
> -Original Message- From: Julie Dawson
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
> Brings the "Store to your Door"
>
> Instacart charges $99.00 per year and $10.00 per month for free delivery
> $35.00 and above.
> Live  simply,
>  Love generously,
>  Care  deeply,
>  Speak  kindly
>  And  leave the rest to God!
> Please join me on
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.gamesgaloreandmore.comdata=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C9a81b179dd854b3a23a408d70e465b79%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636993567671795656sdata=EYuJf9Bb0HSeaf%2BuPNb2Gns2BhVNyvRyP6l6DFw9uf0%3Dreserved=0
> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together
> we can
> build a site to be proud of.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 1:27 PM
> Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
> the "Store to your Door"
>
>
>> Then how does Instacart make money, they have to get paid somehow
>> since nobody can afford to run a business and provide a service which
>> costs them money for free.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Julie Dawson
>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 5:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
>> Brings the "Store to your Door"
>>
>> Sorry I meant $10.00 per month, LOL! That pesky other 0 made that
>> untrue.
>>
>> Live  simply,
>>  Love generously,
>>  Care  deeply,
>>  Speak  kindly
>>  And  leave the rest to God!
>> Please join me on
>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.gamesgaloreandmore.comdata=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C9a81b179dd854b3a23a408d70e465b79%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636993567671795656sdata=EYuJf9Bb0HSeaf%2BuPNb2Gns2BhVNyvRyP6l6DFw9uf0%3Dreserved=0
>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together
>> we can build a site to be proud of.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Julie Dawson"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
>> Brings
>> the "Store to your Door"
>>
>>
>>> Oh yes it does. I pay $100 per month or $99 per year as well for the
>>> $35.00 unlocked free delivering.
>>> The monthly fee is taken out of my bank account every month.
>>> Just updating on how it is for me who uses Instacart a great deal.
>>> .
>>> Live  simply,
>>>  Love generously,
>>>  Care  deeply,
>>>  Speak  kindly
>>>  And  leave the rest to God!
>>> Please join me on
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.gamesgaloreandmore.comdata=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C9a81b179dd854b3a23a408d70e465b79%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636993567671795656sdata=EYuJf9Bb0HSeaf%2BuPNb2Gns2BhVNyvRyP6l6DFw9uf0%3Dreserved=0
>>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we
>>> can build a site to be proud of.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
>>> Brings
>>> the "Store to your Door"
>>>
>>>
 Instacart does not have a membership fee.

 Andy

 - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 1:20 PM
 Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that
 Brings
 the "Store to your Door"


 And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
 I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this
 service and
 delivery for free for a 

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Marie]

Well said, Robin.
I am also very social and active but live alone, am totally blind, do not 
live in a small town and the grocery delivery is a huge benefit for me.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from time
to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and
exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way that
might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life easier
whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you clean come up
people even within our own communities would say such things implying that
those who use such services don't also do so via other means or should need
to justify why they make use of such conveniences when sighted counterparts
would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they
probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such comments
to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such would be said in
relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from home
whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the like and
I also am found to be out and about in all manner of situations quite
frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other store
iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than even the
websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't choose the
color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so
with ease using Voiceover within their app.

So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no
apologies for it.
Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"

And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service and
delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low delivery
fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to get $20 or $25
worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service provided by
our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and if I call Safeway
and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a few items on my way home"
the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, hang on for a sec so I can get a piece
of paper and a pen". It so happens that I walk right by Safeway on my way
home from my store, it takes me about 8 minutes to walk from my store to
Safeway and another 10 from there home. If I call a few minutes before I
leave and give them 15 or 20 minutes my order is usually waiting for me at
the customer service counter by the time I get there. If I am at home and
have a larger shop I want to do where maybe a friend can pick it up for me
or where I send a cab they'll also charge it to my credit card and for $11
our local taxi company goes there and picks it up for me.
Of course most people may not live in a place where they get such service
and in those cases a service like Shipt is amazing.
I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from time
to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and
exercise is important.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"

This is mentioned in the article below. When I looked into this issue, I
found most of these services do charge membership fees, either monthly or
annually. What are the totally accessible shopping services that don't
charge any monthly or annual fees? Here's one article I found talking about
the annual or monthly fees charged by these services
https://www.consumerreports.org/online-grocery-services/grocery-delivery-services-review/



On 7/21/19 2:33 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Keep in mind that unlike other shopping apps, Shipt charges a $99 per
year membership fee just to use the service.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:07 PM
Subject: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that 

Apologies for Multiple Posting with "[External]" Added to Subject Line

[Craig Werner]

I apologize for repeat posts of a message I sent regarding a Voice
Dream Writer thread I started.  My very recent posts were not showing
up in the Gmail app, which at first led me to think they were not
reaching the group.  I went to groups.com, searched for the viphone
group, and discovered the posts were there after all.  Curiously, I
noticed that midway or so through the thread, the string "[External]"
had been included in the subject lines of posts to the group.  I don't
know where it came from, nor do I know if it is responsible for my
suddenly not being able to track this thread properly.

Craig

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Voice Dream Writer Seems not to Remember Cursor Position

[Richard Turner]

All three made it to the list.


Glad you sorted it out.


Richard

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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:48 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
> Apologies if you have seen this message before.  A glitch made me
> think my previous send did not go to the list.
> 
> I have done some more tesssting.  First, I have to amend a statement I
> made in the first message of this thread.  I said the first time I
> tried to change the cursor position, I altered it and closed the app
> via the app switcher, and the new position was saved.  I don’t think,
> in fact, that I closed the switcher.
> 
> Here’s what I now believe to be true in all cases.  If I open a
> document and do nothing but change the cursor position and then close
> the app via the switcher, the new position is not saved.  On the other
> hand, if I open the app and document, change the position, move away
> from the app by merely pressing “home” and then later re-open Writer,
> I can change the cursor position and close the app via the switcher,
> and the new position is saved.  All of this is done without making any
> changes to the text.  This makes no sense to me.
> 
> I am now thinking that my question is largely academic and prompted by
> little more than curiosity.  In the normal course of editing, worrying
> about moving the cursor without making any textual changes to a
> document might not have any practical advantage.  In other words,
> maybe I am just pursuing a question whose anser does not really make
> much of a difference in how the application performs overall.  Perhaps
> I should connect a Bluetooth keyboard and then earnestly start using
> Writer as an editor without worrying about an academic quibble..
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>> On 7/21/19, Craig Werner  wrote:
>> Thank you, Keith, for suggesting this tweak in my testing.  You raise an
>> intriguing question: If no textual change is made, is a save necessary?
>> Duly noted.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 2:29 PM 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone <
>> viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> hi, I understand writer only forces a change after an edit. Perhaps it
>>> does not consider a change of cursor location and edit. Try doing
>>> something
>>> that changes the number of characters or something else, change your
>>> cursor
>>> location and then see if that new change is saved.
>>> I am also trying to get writer to work for me. Please let us know if this
>>> makes a difference for you.
>>> Thanks, Keith
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you, Richard, for your thoughts.  When I played with Writer shortly
>>> after it came out, I never tested the cursor position accuracy.  I'm
>>> going
>>> to do some more testing to make sure my findings are reproduceable before
>>> I
>>> contact Winston.   I wouldn't want a developer following a false scent.
>>> I'll be back in a couple of days.
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 8:15 AM Richard Turner <
>>> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Well, since I have iCloud enabled, and I always leave my cursor at the
 end of what I am working on, I'm not sure what's happening.
 Given your explanation, it sounds like an issue; but perhaps writing
 Winston directly would be helpful? supp...@voicedream.com
 
 I'd be curious to know what you find out.
 
 
 Richard
 
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> On Jul 21, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Craig Werner 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone.
> 
> I hadn't used Voice Dream Writer for a long time so decided to give it
> another try.  With no Bluetooth keyboard connected and iCloud not
> enabled, I created a one-sentence test document on my iPhone SE
> running iOS 12.3.1.  After playing around with various controls, I
> moved the cursor to a word in the middle of the sentence and confirmed
> the cursor's position by a double tap of the button Labeled "Cursor."
> The position was correct.  I then closed the application via the app
> switcher, reopened it, and confirmed the correctness of the saved
> position.  I moved the cursor to another position and closed an
> re-opened the application, but this time, the new position was not
> saved.  No matter what I did, I couldn't change the cursor saved
> position to anything other than the first place I had saved.  Any idea
> as to what is going on?  Computer operator error is 

Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sieghard says:
"I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from time 
to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to this,
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and 
exercise is important."
While such comments are the sort I can easily dismiss and go on my way that 
might not be the case for others. as such
it saddens me that whenever discussions of anything that makes life easier 
whether it be shop at home services or having someone help you clean come up 
people even within our own communities would say such things implying that 
those who use such services don't also do so via other means or should need 
to justify why they make use of such conveniences when sighted counterparts 
would never need to do so.
Obviously we aren't the only users of such services for if we were they 
probably wouldn't be maintained. Thus if someone wouldn't make such comments 
to sighted users of such services it makes me sad that such would be said in 
relation to those who are blind.
I myself have benefitted greatly from the convenience of shopping from home 
whether it be via Peapod grocery delivery service or Amazon or the like and 
I also am found to be out and about in all manner of situations quite 
frequently. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
To make this iPhone related the Peapod app along with too many other store 
iOS apps are quite accessible these days sometimes more so than even the 
websites one can access via the pc. Just last night I couldn't choose the 
color of something at
www.bedbathandbeyond.com on the pc with a screen reader but I could do so 
with ease using Voiceover within their app.


So I say live and let live, use what works best for you and make no 
apologies for it.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


And would you expect to get all of this done for you for free?
I think it's pretty amazing that for $99 a year you get this service and 
delivery for free for a $35 or more order. Even $7 is a pretty low delivery 
fee, how much would it cost you to take a cab to the store to get $20 or $25 
worth of product?
I fortunately live in a small town where I get a similar service provided by 
our local grocery stores for free, they know who I am and if I call Safeway 
and say "Hey, it's Sieghard, I'd like to pick up a few items on my way home" 
the answer usually is "OK, Sieghard, hang on for a sec so I can get a piece 
of paper and a pen". It so happens that I walk right by Safeway on my way 
home from my store, it takes me about 8 minutes to walk from my store to 
Safeway and another 10 from there home. If I call a few minutes before I 
leave and give them 15 or 20 minutes my order is usually waiting for me at 
the customer service counter by the time I get there. If I am at home and 
have a larger shop I want to do where maybe a friend can pick it up for me 
or where I send a cab they'll also charge it to my credit card and for $11 
our local taxi company goes there and picks it up for me.
Of course most people may not live in a place where they get such service 
and in those cases a service like Shipt is amazing.
I still think an otherwise able-bodied blind person should go out from time 
to time to interact with others, not only is there a social aspect to this, 
but after all one cannot sit around at home all day doing nothing and 
exercise is important.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


This is mentioned in the article below. When I looked into this issue, I 
found most of these services do charge membership fees, either monthly or 
annually. What are the totally accessible shopping services that don't 
charge any monthly or annual fees? Here's one article I found talking about 
the annual or monthly fees charged by these services 
https://www.consumerreports.org/online-grocery-services/grocery-delivery-services-review/




On 7/21/19 2:33 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Keep in mind that unlike other shopping apps, Shipt charges a $99 per
year membership fee just to use the service.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 12:07 PM
Subject: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings
the "Store to your Door"



Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the
"Store to your Door"
By Deborah Kendrick
American Foundation for the Blind

Consider a few scenarios.
You have just moved into your college dorm and you realize that you
forgot shampoo, your favorite energy bars, sheets for your bed, or

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Voice Dream Writer Seems not to Remember Cursor Position

[Craig Werner]

Apologies if you have seen this message before.  A glitch made me
think my previous send did not go to the list.

I have done some more tesssting.  First, I have to amend a statement I
made in the first message of this thread.  I said the first time I
tried to change the cursor position, I altered it and closed the app
via the app switcher, and the new position was saved.  I don’t think,
in fact, that I closed the switcher.

Here’s what I now believe to be true in all cases.  If I open a
document and do nothing but change the cursor position and then close
the app via the switcher, the new position is not saved.  On the other
hand, if I open the app and document, change the position, move away
from the app by merely pressing “home” and then later re-open Writer,
I can change the cursor position and close the app via the switcher,
and the new position is saved.  All of this is done without making any
changes to the text.  This makes no sense to me.

I am now thinking that my question is largely academic and prompted by
little more than curiosity.  In the normal course of editing, worrying
about moving the cursor without making any textual changes to a
document might not have any practical advantage.  In other words,
maybe I am just pursuing a question whose anser does not really make
much of a difference in how the application performs overall.  Perhaps
I should connect a Bluetooth keyboard and then earnestly start using
Writer as an editor without worrying about an academic quibble..

Craig


On 7/21/19, Craig Werner  wrote:
> Thank you, Keith, for suggesting this tweak in my testing.  You raise an
> intriguing question: If no textual change is made, is a save necessary?
> Duly noted.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 2:29 PM 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone <
> viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> hi, I understand writer only forces a change after an edit. Perhaps it
>> does not consider a change of cursor location and edit. Try doing
>> something
>> that changes the number of characters or something else, change your
>> cursor
>> location and then see if that new change is saved.
>> I am also trying to get writer to work for me. Please let us know if this
>> makes a difference for you.
>> Thanks, Keith
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Richard, for your thoughts.  When I played with Writer shortly
>> after it came out, I never tested the cursor position accuracy.  I'm
>> going
>> to do some more testing to make sure my findings are reproduceable before
>> I
>> contact Winston.   I wouldn't want a developer following a false scent.
>> I'll be back in a couple of days.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 8:15 AM Richard Turner <
>> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, since I have iCloud enabled, and I always leave my cursor at the
>>> end of what I am working on, I'm not sure what's happening.
>>> Given your explanation, it sounds like an issue; but perhaps writing
>>> Winston directly would be helpful? supp...@voicedream.com
>>>
>>> I'd be curious to know what you find out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
>>> is indistinguishable from magic."
>>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>>> www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jul 21, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Craig Werner 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello, everyone.
>>> >
>>> > I hadn't used Voice Dream Writer for a long time so decided to give it
>>> > another try.  With no Bluetooth keyboard connected and iCloud not
>>> > enabled, I created a one-sentence test document on my iPhone SE
>>> > running iOS 12.3.1.  After playing around with various controls, I
>>> > moved the cursor to a word in the middle of the sentence and confirmed
>>> > the cursor's position by a double tap of the button Labeled "Cursor."
>>> > The position was correct.  I then closed the application via the app
>>> > switcher, reopened it, and confirmed the correctness of the saved
>>> > position.  I moved the cursor to another position and closed an
>>> > re-opened the application, but this time, the new position was not
>>> > saved.  No matter what I did, I couldn't change the cursor saved
>>> > position to anything other than the first place I had saved.  Any idea
>>> > as to what is going on?  Computer operator error is always a distinct
>>> > possibility.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > Craig
>>> >
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Voice Dream Writer Seems not to Remember Cursor Position

[Craig Werner]

My apologies if you are seeing this message twice.  A glitch made me
think the first one never reached the list.

I have done some more testing.  First, I have to amend a statement I
made in the first message of this thread.  I said the first time I
tried to change the cursor position, I altered it and closed the app
via the app switcher, and the new position was saved.  I don’t think,
in fact, that I closed the switcher.

Here’s what I now believe to be true in all cases.  If I open a
document and do nothing but change the cursor position and then close
the app via the switcher, the new position is not saved.  On the other
hand, if I open the app and document, change the position, move away
from the app by merely pressing “home” and then later re-open Writer,
I can change the cursor position and close the app via the switcher,
and the new position is saved.  All of this is done without making any
changes to the text.  This makes no sense to me.

I am now thinking that my question is largely academic and prompted by
little more than curiosity.  In the normal course of editing, worrying
about moving the cursor without making any textual changes to a
document might not have any practical advantage.  In other words,
maybe I am just pursuing a question whose answer does not really make
much of a difference in how the application performs overall.  Perhaps
I should connect a Bluetooth keyboard and then earnestly start using
Writer as an editor without worrying about an academic quibble..

Craig

On 7/21/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Good point Keith.
> I hadn't thought about the fact that his example didn't involve a real
> edit.
> I think you nailed it.
> I cannot stress enough to read through the help document to get the most out
> of Writer.
> It is my main note taking app.
> And, if you export to RTF, and have used the heading levels, they are saved
> in the RTF version.
> He has an experimental Word format in the export, but that seems to be
> problematic.
> Later,
>
>
> Richard
>
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
> indistinguishable from magic."
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:29 AM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> hi, I understand writer only forces a change after an edit. Perhaps it does
> not consider a change of cursor location and edit. Try doing something that
> changes the number of characters or something else, change your cursor
> location and then see if that new change is saved.
> I am also trying to get writer to work for me. Please let us know if this
> makes a difference for you.
> Thanks, Keith
>
> On Jul 21, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Craig Werner
> mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Richard, for your thoughts.  When I played with Writer shortly
> after it came out, I never tested the cursor position accuracy.  I'm going
> to do some more testing to make sure my findings are reproduceable before I
> contact Winston.   I wouldn't want a developer following a false scent.
> I'll be back in a couple of days.
>
> Craig
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 8:15 AM Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> Well, since I have iCloud enabled, and I always leave my cursor at the end
> of what I am working on, I'm not sure what's happening.
> Given your explanation, it sounds like an issue; but perhaps writing Winston
> directly would be helpful?
> supp...@voicedream.com
>
> I'd be curious to know what you find out.
>
>
> Richard
>
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
> indistinguishable from magic."
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
>
>
>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Craig Werner
>> mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello, everyone.
>>
>> I hadn't used Voice Dream Writer for a long time so decided to give it
>> another try.  With no Bluetooth keyboard connected and iCloud not
>> enabled, I created a one-sentence test document on my iPhone SE
>> running iOS 12.3.1.  After playing around with various controls, I
>> moved the cursor to a word in the middle of the sentence and confirmed
>> the cursor's position by a double tap of the button Labeled "Cursor."
>> The position was correct.  I then closed the application via the app
>> switcher, reopened it, and confirmed the correctness of the saved
>> position.  I moved the cursor to another position and closed an
>> re-opened the application, but this time, the new position was not
>> saved.  No matter what I did, I couldn't change the cursor saved
>> position to anything other than the first place I had saved.  Any 

Re: Voice Dream Writer Seems not to Remember Cursor Position

[Craig Werner]

I have done some more tesssting.  First, I have to amend a statement I made
in the first message of this thread.  I said the first time I tried to
change the cursor position, I altered it and closed the app via the app
switcher, and the new position was saved.  I don’t think, in fact, that I
closed the switcher.

Here’s what I now believe to be true in all cases.  If I open a document
and do nothing but change the cursor position and then close the app via
the switcher, the new position is not saved.  On the other hand, if I open
the app and document, change the position, move away from the app by merely
pressing “home” and then later re-open Writer, I can change the cursor
position and close the app via the switcher, and the new position is
saved.  All of this is done without making any changes to the text.  This
makes no sense to me.

I am now thinking that my question is largely academic and prompted by
little more than curiosity.  In the normal course of editing, worrying
about moving the cursor without making any textual changes to a document
might not have any practical advantage.  In other words, maybe I am just
pursuing a question whose anser does not really make much of a difference
in how the application performs overall.  Perhaps I should connect a
Bluetooth keyboard and then earnestly start using Writer as an editor
without worrying about an academic quibble..

Craig

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 3:01 PM Craig Werner  wrote:

> Thank you, Keith, for suggesting this tweak in my testing.  You raise an
> intriguing question: If no textual change is made, is a save necessary?
> Duly noted.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 2:29 PM 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone <
> viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> hi, I understand writer only forces a change after an edit. Perhaps it
>> does not consider a change of cursor location and edit. Try doing something
>> that changes the number of characters or something else, change your cursor
>> location and then see if that new change is saved.
>> I am also trying to get writer to work for me. Please let us know if this
>> makes a difference for you.
>> Thanks, Keith
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Richard, for your thoughts.  When I played with Writer shortly
>> after it came out, I never tested the cursor position accuracy.  I'm going
>> to do some more testing to make sure my findings are reproduceable before I
>> contact Winston.   I wouldn't want a developer following a false scent.
>> I'll be back in a couple of days.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 8:15 AM Richard Turner <
>> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, since I have iCloud enabled, and I always leave my cursor at the
>>> end of what I am working on, I'm not sure what's happening.
>>> Given your explanation, it sounds like an issue; but perhaps writing
>>> Winston directly would be helpful? supp...@voicedream.com
>>>
>>> I'd be curious to know what you find out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
>>> is indistinguishable from magic."
>>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>>> www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jul 21, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Craig Werner 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello, everyone.
>>> >
>>> > I hadn't used Voice Dream Writer for a long time so decided to give it
>>> > another try.  With no Bluetooth keyboard connected and iCloud not
>>> > enabled, I created a one-sentence test document on my iPhone SE
>>> > running iOS 12.3.1.  After playing around with various controls, I
>>> > moved the cursor to a word in the middle of the sentence and confirmed
>>> > the cursor's position by a double tap of the button Labeled "Cursor."
>>> > The position was correct.  I then closed the application via the app
>>> > switcher, reopened it, and confirmed the correctness of the saved
>>> > position.  I moved the cursor to another position and closed an
>>> > re-opened the application, but this time, the new position was not
>>> > saved.  No matter what I did, I couldn't change the cursor saved
>>> > position to anything other than the first place I had saved.  Any idea
>>> > as to what is going on?  Computer operator error is always a distinct
>>> > possibility.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > Craig
>>> >
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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Cristobal Munoz]

Good to know, thanks. I guess what I really meant were things like coupons and 
such.

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 3:40 AM, Mama Peach  wrote:
> 
> There is a section for each store that offers on sale items.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the 
> "Store to your Door"
> 
> Yup. My wife's sighted and she more or less does all the shopping, but if I 
> were alone or if we were both blind or even say if we had kids and didn't 
> want to deal with trying to carve out time to make a grocery run with a 
> carrier in tow, we'd probably opt for this, but as it is, she likes going to 
> Aldi and Sprouts and so on to see what they have.
> The only other drawback perhaps is that more often than not, we're always 
> going to pay full price on stuff. Unless there's a way to somehow include any 
> running sales or discounts?
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 5:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the 
> "Store to your Door"
> 
> Cristóbal:
> 
> 
> I am with you!  I hate going to Costco, and have found that I can get a lot 
> of their products from the online ordering service and get free shipping.
> Items may be a few pennies higher, but the convenience is worth a little bit 
> more, so now we go fewer times a year to stock up on meat, and a few things 
> they don't have at Costco.com.
> 
> Holly
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Re: apple tv or amazon fire stick

[Jess Shpek]

Well I have an Amazon Fire and a very smart TV yet there are times where I 
prefer to use the Fire with the Stremio addons 
https://www.firesticktricks.com/best-stremio-addons.html

As an example, if I want to watch two games, one of which is only available 
as a stream, and switch back and forth between them, it's much easier to 
put the streaming video on the Fire and merely switch inputs on the TV to 
switch back and forth. Were I using the Smart TV for streaming, it's much 
more involved to switch back and forth between it and another source.

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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Mama Peach]

Yes, make sure what stores that Shipt delivers from. Some do deliver from 
Kosco and others don't. If Shipt doesn't, then maybe Instacart does.


-Original Message- 
From: Holly

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Janet:

Unfortunately, shipt does not deliver from Costco in our area, but Instacart
does.

Also, the Wal-mart delivery is also not available in our area yet, but we
can order online and have the order ready and loaded in the car for free.

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Re: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings the "Store to your Door"

[Mama Peach]

There is a section for each store that offers on sale items.

-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shop Independently with Shipt: an Accessible App that Brings 
the "Store to your Door"


Yup. My wife's sighted and she more or less does all the shopping, but if I 
were alone or if we were both blind or even say if we had kids and didn't 
want to deal with trying to carve out time to make a grocery run with a 
carrier in tow, we'd probably opt for this, but as it is, she likes going to 
Aldi and Sprouts and so on to see what they have.
The only other drawback perhaps is that more often than not, we're always 
going to pay full price on stuff. Unless there's a way to somehow include 
any running sales or discounts?


Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 5:03 PM
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the "Store to your Door"


Cristóbal:


I am with you!  I hate going to Costco, and have found that I can get a lot 
of their products from the online ordering service and get free shipping.
Items may be a few pennies higher, but the convenience is worth a little bit 
more, so now we go fewer times a year to stock up on meat, and a few things 
they don't have at Costco.com.


Holly

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