Re: The iPhone SE2

[Albert Ruel]

Does this article answer the rumour about an updated iPhone SE?

An insider leaked the release timing for Apple’s AR glasses, and it’s sooner 
than we thought



Apple has been working on its first augmented reality headset for years, and we 
know that because of all the different reports on the matter that have been 
popping up. ARKit was introduced back in 2017, well before the iPhone X 
launched, signaling Apple’s official interest in AR. And, of course, 
experiencing AR on iOS devices is just the most basic way to make use of it. 
Augmented reality should really shine on AR glasses, and an insider with a 
stellar track record now claims the first-generation model is going to hit 
manufacturing later this year ahead of an early 2020 launch.

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That insider, of course, is none other than TF International Securities analyst 
Ming-Chi Kuo, who happens to have correctly predicted just about every major 
Apple move in the past few years. He said in a new research note (via 
MacRumors) that the AR glasses will be released early next year. That certainly 
seems like a surprising launch window for the first pair of Apple Glasses, 
which is what we’ve been calling this device so far.

Apple will reportedly work with third-party brands to launch its AR product, 
with Changying Precision to manufacture the chassis. Kuo added that the glasses 
will be sold as an iPhone accessory, which is hardly a surprise. The glasses 
would take a display role, with computing, networking, and positioning 
happening on the iPhone. Thankfully, the iPhone and glasses will supposedly 
link up wirelessly.

The glasses should be slim and lightweight as a result, MacRumors says, as the 
device won’t pack much hardware. The blog discovered an Apple image recently 
inside an internal Find My app code that showed an icon for Apple Glasses that 
look a lot like what you’d expect from bulky third-party AR glasses.

The dream for AR glasses is that one day they’d be able to replace the iPhone 
by packing miniaturized iPhone hardware inside the frame. Several tech 
breakthroughs are required to get us there, so Apple’s first AR glasses will be 
a lot dumber than that. It’s unclear at this time exactly when Apple will 
launch its AR glasses, but the company is also rumored to be planning a brand 
new iPhone SE phone for the first quarter of 2020. Maybe the Apple Glasses will 
be announced at the same time.

Image Source: Martin Hajek
Tags: Apple Glasses, AR

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I would get a new battery put in, your 6S still has resale value if and when a 
new iPhone SE will be released in the spring. Note I say if and when because 
it's not like this has been 100% confirmed by Apple and I doubt they will 
confirm it until shortly before it happens. Anyways, while the iPhone 8 is a 
really nice phone (it is what my wife and I have) I can see why somebody would 
want a new iPhone SE with the latest processor and a good price point, but as I 
said, your 6S still has resale value as long as it's cosmetically in half 
decent shape with no cracks in the screen or all scratched up and if it is in 
good shape and it has a 6 month old battery (keep the Apple workorder so you 
can proof it) you'll easily get that investment back when you sell it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it was 
released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it would have 
the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 GB that I've got on 
my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen to audio books either mp3 
ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or by using the bard mobile app.  I'm 
currently listening to The Grapes of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I 
highly recommend.

> On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
> 
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: 

Emoji keyboard in iOS 13 and language confusion when dictating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

I could swear I remember hearing in the June keynote when iOS 13 was introduced 
that there was supposed to be a separate button to switch to the emoji keyboard 
instead of using the main keyboard selector button.
Does anybody recall that as well? I have the English and German keyboards 
installed and would love it if I could simply double tap the button to switch 
back and forth, but as soon as a third keyboard layout like emoji is also 
selected, you have to double tap and slide up until you find the one you want, 
at least for me this seems the easiest way.

I also seem to have a problem where very often when the keyboard is set to 
English and I dictate something, SIRI tries to interpret what I say in English 
as German and the resulting text is complete gobbledygook. Sometimes switching 
to German and back to English fixes this or sometimes if I start a very simple 
English sentence which it gets right and then continue it also continues in 
English, but it's super annoying. I even completely turned off dictation and 
Hey SIRI which basically means turning off SIRI, I was told that this would 
delete any information from Apple servers and I said to go ahead, then I 
retrained Hey SIRI again to my voice and turned on dictation, but still it does 
this. Has anybody else encountered this, I have not seen any posts about this.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: alternate ways to get to the control center

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Touch something in the status bar like the time, then put 3 fingers on the 
screen near the bottom and swipe up


From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: alternate ways to get to the control center

Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there another 
way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to make that 
swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in that 
case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m with 
no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Double tap the keyboard button and then slide  your finger up until you find 
English.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

Hello,
I recently updated my iOs to version 13.1 and I can no longer switch to english 
layout.
My iOs is configured to have Russian as a secondary layout. However, once I 
switch to Russian, there is no way to go back. When I press the button to 
switch to next layout, it keeps switching between Russian and emoji.
Has anyone else experienced this? Are there any known workarounds?
Thanks
Tony


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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would get a new battery put in, your 6S still has resale value if and when a 
new iPhone SE will be released in the spring. Note I say if and when because 
it's not like this has been 100% confirmed by Apple and I doubt they will 
confirm it until shortly before it happens. Anyways, while the iPhone 8 is a 
really nice phone (it is what my wife and I have) I can see why somebody would 
want a new iPhone SE with the latest processor and a good price point, but as I 
said, your 6S still has resale value as long as it's cosmetically in half 
decent shape with no cracks in the screen or all scratched up and if it is in 
good shape and it has a 6 month old battery (keep the Apple workorder so you 
can proof it) you'll easily get that investment back when you sell it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it was 
released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it would have 
the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 GB that I've got on 
my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen to audio books either mp3 
ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or by using the bard mobile app.  I'm 
currently listening to The Grapes of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I 
highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> ???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the 
>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
>> iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
>> also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
Enable assistive  touch. It’s a Icón that will appear on screen. Explore by 
dragging to locate once enabled. This feature will help you. Go to settings, 
accessibility, touch, assitive touch and enable then locate icon and double tap.


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On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:52 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able to get 2 
to move in a coordinated way.

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center



1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up






Richard
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On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there another 
way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to make that 
swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in that 
case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m with 
no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA
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RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
7-Eleven stores etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

Hello list,
So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s out 
of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have never 
looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone plays 
lotto and how they buy their tickets.
I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
again, never paid it much mind.
Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays the 
state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe side, 
something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.
If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an iOS 
app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.

Thanks,

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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you know you are setting up your phone date on the list?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

No. I'll be home briefly this afternoon. Tomorrow afternoon and evening are 
better. That work for you?

On Oct 9, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Sandy Finley 
mailto:therealsandyfin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I, for one,am very happy I upgraded; why I am not having any of the problems 
others describe I cannot tell you. It is dumb luck — no skill  there! I was 
eager to change the touch gesture for the rotor.

We had talked about talking on the phone; guess I got kind  of distracted.  Are 
you home now?
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 9, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Dave 
mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:

you can also, delete the update from storage, which you will find in settings, 
then general.

But, it will redownload again at some point. But just keep doing the same 
thing, until you are happy to update.

Dave.


From: Susie Stageberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Good morning all.

My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on “later” 
and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a while. 
From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people having a 
hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to 
hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very 
nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest and greatest 
just because it’s the latest and greatest.

Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get a 
better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?

Susie



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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able to get 2 
to move in a coordinated way.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

 1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up
 




 




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  On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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  Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there 
another way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to 
make that swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in 
that case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m 
with no result.
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Re: Dice World

[gerrycook]

go into settings,  and it shows user name and password 

i’m gerry the magpie named after a famous australian football team I try to 
play all games and beat the computer.  I chat to all opponents the social feed 
is not bad as well. Thanks. 

> On 9 Oct 2019, at 8:05 am, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I like how it is set up now. And some of the sounds are less annoying. I 
> would love to play with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember my username 
> though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It is still there, they just changed the name.  Look for number of bonuses.  
>> This is the amount of gold you have.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also noticed after the updates the other day everything looks very 
>>> different.
>>> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but I
>>> still get notices that I am receiving gold.
>>> Does anyone know what is going on?
>>> Teresa☺
>>> 
>>> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
>>> 
>>> 
> On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
 I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara
 Hi I also having after playing for gold sometimes the app will close. I am
 not updated my phone to 13. I have seen that I not getting bonus gold of 10
 after the update of dice word.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cook, Steve
 Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Dice World
 
 Hi All,
 
 Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
 
 Using the current version of Dice World on an iPhone XR running version 12.
 Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
 
 After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app again.
 The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
 How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the app dos
 not crash?
 
 User name Steve6009
 
 
 
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RE: Dice World

[Louise Johnson]

Hi yes that makes sence I will go turn that back on.

If anyone wants to play me and don't know my user name it is 

Herclouise

Look forward to playing all Louise and princess Kiara 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World


there is not a place just that states your total number of games, but the next 
heading after, your turn, is the heading, their turn.  If you just add those 2 
numbers, then that is your total number of games.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Oct 9, 2019, at 10:18 PM, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Hi yes you are right with this information. I have 23 games ready for 
> me to play. I may have 50 games going and I cannot find that number 
> just using numbers. Thanks Louise and princess Kiara
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mama Peach
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dice World
> 
> There is a heading that says Your Turn, it gives how many games you are 
> playing. Mine says, Your Turn, 23 Games. Then it lists the games that are 
> ready for me to play.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Louise Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Dice World
> 
> Hi Karen I also like most of it myself but I cannot find how many games you 
> have going at one time over all. If anyone can share where to find that 
> please share.
> 
> For all I didn't like the new games on top that just your other players 
> played so I found a way to change it.
> Go into settings and go to games and you will find having the new on top I 
> turned it off and the older games are now on the top.
> 
> Louise and princess Kiara
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dice World
> 
> Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper and lower values, and the 
> open spots without picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like 
> it, though.
> 
> Karen
> At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote:
>> I like how it is set up now. And some of the sounds are less annoying.
>> I would love to play with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember 
>> my username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is still there, they just changed the
>> name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian
>>  wrote:
 
 I also noticed after the updates the other
>> day everything looks very different.
 There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but 
 I still get notices that I am receiving gold.
 Does anyone know what is going on?
 Teresa☺
 
 Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
 
 
>> On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara Hi I also 
> having after playing for gold
>> sometimes the app will close. I am
> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen
>> that I not getting bonus gold of 10
> after the update of dice word.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cook, Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Dice World
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
> 
> Using the current version of Dice World on
>> an iPhone XR running version 12.
> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
> 
> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app 
> again.
> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the 
> app dos not crash?
> 
> User name Steve6009
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Cook, CPM
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> SC Commission for the Blind
> 1430 Confederate avenue
> Columbia, SC 29201
> Office: (803) 898-8788
> Cell: (803) 908-3856
> 1-888-335-5951
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Re: Dice World

[Chris Chaffin]

there is not a place just that states your total number of games, but the next 
heading after, your turn, is the heading, their turn.  If you just add those 2 
numbers, then that is your total number of games.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Oct 9, 2019, at 10:18 PM, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Hi yes you are right with this information. I have 23 games ready for me to 
> play. I may have 50 games going and I cannot find that number just using 
> numbers. Thanks Louise and princess Kiara  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mama Peach
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dice World
> 
> There is a heading that says Your Turn, it gives how many games you are 
> playing. Mine says, Your Turn, 23 Games. Then it lists the games that are 
> ready for me to play.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Louise Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Dice World
> 
> Hi Karen I also like most of it myself but I cannot find how many games you 
> have going at one time over all. If anyone can share where to find that 
> please share.
> 
> For all I didn't like the new games on top that just your other players 
> played so I found a way to change it.
> Go into settings and go to games and you will find having the new on top I 
> turned it off and the older games are now on the top.
> 
> Louise and princess Kiara
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dice World
> 
> Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper and lower values, and the 
> open spots without picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like 
> it, though.
> 
> Karen
> At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote:
>> I like how it is set up now. And some of the sounds are less annoying.
>> I would love to play with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember 
>> my username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is still there, they just changed the
>> name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian
>>  wrote:
 
 I also noticed after the updates the other
>> day everything looks very different.
 There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but 
 I still get notices that I am receiving gold.
 Does anyone know what is going on?
 Teresa☺
 
 Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
 
 
>> On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara Hi I also 
> having after playing for gold
>> sometimes the app will close. I am
> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen
>> that I not getting bonus gold of 10
> after the update of dice word.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cook, Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Dice World
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
> 
> Using the current version of Dice World on
>> an iPhone XR running version 12.
> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
> 
> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app 
> again.
> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the 
> app dos not crash?
> 
> User name Steve6009
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Cook, CPM
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> SC Commission for the Blind
> 1430 Confederate avenue
> Columbia, SC 29201
> Office: (803) 898-8788
> Cell: (803) 908-3856
> 1-888-335-5951
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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

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1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up






Richard
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On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there another 
way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to make that 
swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in that 
case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m with 
no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA

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alternate ways to get to the control center

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there another 
way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to make that 
swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in that 
case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m with 
no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA

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Re: Dice World

[Mama Peach]

I see what you mean, the total amount of games you are playing. I don't see 
that either, just the number of games that are available to play.


-Original Message- 
From: Louise Johnson

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 10:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dice World

Hi yes you are right with this information. I have 23 games ready for me to 
play. I may have 50 games going and I cannot find that number just using 
numbers. Thanks Louise and princess Kiara


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mama Peach

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World

There is a heading that says Your Turn, it gives how many games you are 
playing. Mine says, Your Turn, 23 Games. Then it lists the games that are 
ready for me to play.


-Original Message-
From: Louise Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dice World

Hi Karen I also like most of it myself but I cannot find how many games you 
have going at one time over all. If anyone can share where to find that 
please share.


For all I didn't like the new games on top that just your other players 
played so I found a way to change it.
Go into settings and go to games and you will find having the new on top I 
turned it off and the older games are now on the top.


Louise and princess Kiara

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World

Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper and lower values, and the 
open spots without picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like 
it, though.


Karen
At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote:

I like how it is set up now. And some of the sounds are less annoying.
I would love to play with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember
my username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin 
> wrote:
>
> 
> It is still there, they just changed the
name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian
 wrote:
>>
>> I also noticed after the updates the other
day everything looks very different.
>> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but
>> I still get notices that I am receiving gold.
>> Does anyone know what is going on?
>> Teresa☺
>>
>> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
>>
>>
 On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
>>> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara Hi I also
>>> having after playing for gold
sometimes the app will close. I am
>>> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen
that I not getting bonus gold of 10
>>> after the update of dice word.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Cook, Steve
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Dice World
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
>>>
>>> Using the current version of Dice World on
an iPhone XR running version 12.
>>> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
>>>
>>> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app
>>> again.
>>> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
>>> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the
>>> app dos not crash?
>>>
>>> User name Steve6009
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>> 1430 Confederate avenue
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Re: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

[Tony Malykh]

So I have "next keyboard" button in the bottom left corner of my 
on-screen keyboard. Is that the one you are talking about? If so, I 
tried to double tap and hold it and nothing happened. Is VoiceOver 
supposed to be turned off for this to work?


I have iPhone SE, so it's pretty small.


On 10/9/2019 5:49 PM, Cristobal Muñoz wrote:

Have you tried double tapping and holding the little globe icon till the 
keyboard options come up?
This will show all the keyboards you have enabled as well as the left-handed, 
right-handed and default keyboard layout if you've got a bigger size phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

Hello,
I recently updated my iOs to version 13.1 and I can no longer switch to english 
layout.
My iOs is configured to have Russian as a secondary layout. However, once I 
switch to Russian, there is no way to go back. When I press the button to 
switch to next layout, it keeps switching between Russian and emoji.
Has anyone else experienced this? Are there any known workarounds?
Thanks
Tony


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RE: Dice World

[Louise Johnson]

Hi yes you are right with this information. I have 23 games ready for me to 
play. I may have 50 games going and I cannot find that number just using 
numbers. Thanks Louise and princess Kiara  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mama Peach
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World

There is a heading that says Your Turn, it gives how many games you are 
playing. Mine says, Your Turn, 23 Games. Then it lists the games that are ready 
for me to play.

-Original Message-
From: Louise Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dice World

Hi Karen I also like most of it myself but I cannot find how many games you 
have going at one time over all. If anyone can share where to find that please 
share.

For all I didn't like the new games on top that just your other players played 
so I found a way to change it.
Go into settings and go to games and you will find having the new on top I 
turned it off and the older games are now on the top.

Louise and princess Kiara

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World

Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper and lower values, and the 
open spots without picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like it, 
though.

Karen
At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote:
>I like how it is set up now. And some of the sounds are less annoying.
>I would love to play with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember 
>my username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin 
> > wrote:
> >
> > 
> > It is still there, they just changed the
> name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> I also noticed after the updates the other
> day everything looks very different.
> >> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but 
> >> I still get notices that I am receiving gold.
> >> Does anyone know what is going on?
> >> Teresa☺
> >>
> >> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
> >>
> >>
>  On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> >>> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara Hi I also 
> >>> having after playing for gold
> sometimes the app will close. I am
> >>> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen
> that I not getting bonus gold of 10
> >>> after the update of dice word.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> >>> Of Cook, Steve
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Dice World
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
> >>>
> >>> Using the current version of Dice World on
> an iPhone XR running version 12.
> >>> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
> >>>
> >>> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app 
> >>> again.
> >>> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
> >>> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the 
> >>> app dos not crash?
> >>>
> >>> User name Steve6009
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Steve Cook, CPM
> >>> Assistive Technology Consultant
> >>> SC Commission for the Blind
> >>> 1430 Confederate avenue
> >>> Columbia, SC 29201
> >>> Office: (803) 898-8788
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fitness apps

[Richard Turner]

Someone asked me today for recommendations for accessible fitness apps.
Please let me know if you have one you'd recommend other than the built-in 
Health app and its tracking.
Thanks,
Richard




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Re: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

[Holly]

Suzy:

Also, if you want to enter the recipients manually, just tap on 'compose a 
new message'.  Then , in the edit field, put in the first name.  Then tap 
'add a contact' and find another recipient and double tap on their number, 
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RE: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

[sherrywells1157]

I use Siri for this.  Just say send message to person A and Person B and person 
C.  If you are going to be sending messages to the same group frequently, you 
might want to create a group.

Sherry Wells

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Stageberg
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

How do I send a text message to more than one recipient at a time? Can Siri do 
this? If I do it manually, how do I separate the recipients?
  Many thanks.

Susie


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Re: how to bring up the onscreen keyboard from external keyboard

[Christina]

On my keyboard it’s control plus spacebar. Some keyboards also have a 
designated key for that. I can’t remember for sure, but I think it’s the 
fn/function key on the apple keyboard.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 5:08 PM, dlng321.mob...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> Can someone tell me how to bring up the onscreen keyboard when using the 
> external hardware keyboard? Thanks!
>  
> Regards,
> Danny Leung
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Sending a text to more than one person at a time

[Susie Stageberg]

How do I send a text message to more than one recipient at a time? Can Siri do 
this? If I do it manually, how do I separate the recipients?
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Susie


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Re: Dice World

[Mama Peach]

I do see under the sixes on the left hand side, it says Player 2 section 
score and Bonus equals zero, and then if you flick once, it says Section 
score and then bonus equals, mine says section score 29, which is my score 
for the ones through sixes and then my bonus score is zero, as the game is 
still in progress. I can't find anything for the other side, the 3 of a kind 
through chance though. The developer should make this easier to find, like 
it used to be


-Original Message- 
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World

Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper
and lower values, and the open spots without
picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like it, though.

Karen
At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote:
I like how it is set up now. And some of the sounds are less annoying. I 
would love to play with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember my 
username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin  
> wrote:

>
> 
> It is still there, they just changed the
name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian
 wrote:
>>
>> I also noticed after the updates the other
day everything looks very different.
>> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but I
>> still get notices that I am receiving gold.
>> Does anyone know what is going on?
>> Teresa☺
>>
>> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
>>
>>
 On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
>>> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara
>>> Hi I also having after playing for gold
sometimes the app will close. I am
>>> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen
that I not getting bonus gold of 10
>>> after the update of dice word.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Cook, Steve
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Dice World
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
>>>
>>> Using the current version of Dice World on
an iPhone XR running version 12.
>>> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
>>>
>>> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app 
>>> again.

>>> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
>>> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the app 
>>> dos

>>> not crash?
>>>
>>> User name Steve6009
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Cook, CPM
>>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>>> Columbia, SC 29201
>>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
>>> 1-888-335-5951
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Re: Dice World

[Mama Peach]

People need to write the developer with issues they are having. That email 
address is:

supp...@appa11y.com

-Original Message- 
From: viola

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World

hello,

I also have a question, I really don’t like this new layout much, because I 
can’t find the scores at the bottom of your top row and bottom row so I can 
keep track of what the score should be. So on the lower level or the upper 
level at a certain point I can’t see the score. I also didn’t like the 
losing game sound. I had to turn it off.


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:44 AM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
wrote:


Hi dice world players.  I'm still having difficulty finding the final 
score in a game when I'm playing against the computer.  Also, I don't 
understand how to redeem my gold or unlock new levels of the game.  Thanks 
for any info.

God bless!
Paula and Garçon

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cook, Steve

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Dice World

Hi All,

Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL

Using the current version of Dice World on an iPhone XR running version 
12.  Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.


After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app again.
The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the app dos 
not crash?


User name Steve6009



Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
1-888-335-5951



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RE: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Have you tried double tapping and holding the little globe icon till the 
keyboard options come up?
This will show all the keyboards you have enabled as well as the left-handed, 
right-handed and default keyboard layout if you've got a bigger size phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

Hello,
I recently updated my iOs to version 13.1 and I can no longer switch to english 
layout.
My iOs is configured to have Russian as a secondary layout. However, once I 
switch to Russian, there is no way to go back. When I press the button to 
switch to next layout, it keeps switching between Russian and emoji.
Has anyone else experienced this? Are there any known workarounds?
Thanks
Tony


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Re: Dice World

[Mama Peach]

There is a heading that says Your Turn, it gives how many games you are 
playing. Mine says, Your Turn, 23 Games. Then it lists the games that are 
ready for me to play.


-Original Message- 
From: Louise Johnson

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dice World

Hi Karen I also like most of it myself but I cannot find how many games you 
have going at one time over all. If anyone can share where to find that 
please share.


For all I didn't like the new games on top that just your other players 
played so I found a way to change it.
Go into settings and go to games and you will find having the new on top I 
turned it off and the older games are now on the top.


Louise and princess Kiara

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World

Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper and lower values, and the 
open spots without picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like 
it, though.


Karen
At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote:

I like how it is set up now. And some of the sounds are less annoying.
I would love to play with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember
my username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin  
> wrote:

>
> 
> It is still there, they just changed the
name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian
 wrote:
>>
>> I also noticed after the updates the other
day everything looks very different.
>> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but
>> I still get notices that I am receiving gold.
>> Does anyone know what is going on?
>> Teresa☺
>>
>> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
>>
>>
 On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
>>> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara Hi I also
>>> having after playing for gold
sometimes the app will close. I am
>>> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen
that I not getting bonus gold of 10
>>> after the update of dice word.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Cook, Steve
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Dice World
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
>>>
>>> Using the current version of Dice World on
an iPhone XR running version 12.
>>> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
>>>
>>> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app 
>>> again.

>>> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
>>> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the
>>> app dos not crash?
>>>
>>> User name Steve6009
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Cook, CPM
>>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>>> Columbia, SC 29201
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>>> 1-888-335-5951
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Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

[Tony Malykh]

Hello,
I recently updated my iOs to version 13.1 and I can no longer switch to 
english layout.
My iOs is configured to have Russian as a secondary layout. However, 
once I switch to Russian, there is no way to go back. When I press the 
button to switch to next layout, it keeps switching between Russian and 
emoji.

Has anyone else experienced this? Are there any known workarounds?
Thanks
Tony


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Re: how to bring up the onscreen keyboard from external keyboard

[Gerardo Corripio]

On my Elle-Gate Bluetooth keyboard, to toggle virtual keyboard mode on/off, 
it’s Control+FN; the two keys to the very bottom left of the keyboard. Hope 
this helps some!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2019, a la(s) 6:09 p. m., dlng321.mob...@gmail.com escribió:
> 
> 
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> Can someone tell me how to bring up the onscreen keyboard when using the 
> external hardware keyboard? Thanks!
>  
> Regards,
> Danny Leung
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

Plus the SE 2 is less expensive than the XR or 11. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

Hi Victor. If you can afford getting a new battery for your 6s, it would be 
worth it. Then if they bring out a SE2, you will have a back-up phone.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it was 
released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it would have 
the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 GB that I've got on 
my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen to audio books either mp3 
ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or by using the bard mobile app.  I'm 
currently listening to The Grapes of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I 
highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> ???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the 
>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
>> iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
>> also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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how to bring up the onscreen keyboard from external keyboard

[dlng321.mobile]

 

Hi all,

 

Can someone tell me how to bring up the onscreen keyboard when using the 
external hardware keyboard? Thanks!

 

Regards,

Danny Leung

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Re: issues with hardware keyboards

[Christina]

With iOS 13 Quick Nav on and off are now replaced with a sounds.

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:26 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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> 
> After upgrading to IOS13, I noticed a number of issues with hardware 
> keyboards. Before we go any further, I was able to replicate the issues with 
> 2 hardware keyboards. The Amazon basics keyboard and the Logitech K87. First, 
> I noticed the absents of the quick navigation status announcements in edit 
> fields for apps such as the messages app. I also noticed that in empty text 
> fields, voiceover now no longer says send dimmed. Instead it just says send. 
> I’ve also noticed other behaviors. For example, when using the hardware 
> keyboard to delete messages, quick navigation appears to automatically turn 
> off and the voice prompt asking are you sure you want to delete this 
> conversation either is truncated or the voiceover volume drops while the 
> prompt is being spoken. I also noted that after I have responded to a message 
> and tried to delete it with the hardware keyboard, the screen appears to jump 
> away from that message. The only options I have for deleting a message to 
> which I have responded are to close and reopen the messages app and then 
> using the hardware keyboard, delete the message. Or, using the onscreen 
> keyboard to delete the message. Is there a setting I need to change or is 
> that something with IOS13? Has anyone else seen this? Thanks folks.
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
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How to Route Phone Calls to Bluetooth Headset with IOS13.1.2?

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
Subject line says it all. I can't seem to find an option with
IOS13.1.2 to route calls to my Bluetooth headset. They either go to
speaker or I have to pick the phone up to answer. Can you point me to
where I should go to change this?

Thanks,
Dani

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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Holly]

Alan:

I meant iPhone storage.  There is no new version listed there.  I am using an 
iPhone 7.

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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Dave]

Hi Victor. If you can afford getting a new battery for your 6s, it would be 
worth it. Then if they bring out a SE2, you will have a back-up phone.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my
6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it
was released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it
would have the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256
GB that I've got on my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen
to audio books either mp3 ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or
by using the bard mobile app.  I'm currently listening to The Grapes
of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:

The easy answer is, to wait and see.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.




Richard
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it." -- Jane Wagner



On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:

???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home
button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first
quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8
body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate
that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig
version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school
touch ID, this might be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.

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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Dave]

yes, it will still download the update, even with that button set to off. It 
will just stop it automatically updating your phone.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Maria Reyes

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Hi, You can go into settings, general, software update and at the bottom of 
the screen is a toggle that says automatic updates. Toggle that to off. It 
shouldn't download it again if you delete the update from storage.


want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I 
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On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:


Some time, when I have no Voice Over, I ask Siri the temperature or how 
many m iles from here to Washington, D>C>, then flick and read what she 
brings up on the Internet. Sometimes that works; sometimes it does not.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Susie,



I've never believed that taking care with updates is an ostrich move. I've 
been using computers since the IBM PC came out in 1981 and after many 
update cycles, I've concluded that a large majority of the updates have 
caused more issues than provided features that I couldn't live without. 
I'm also waiting until iOS 13.x has a release with fewer bugs for 
Voiceover users. I use the FlickType third party keyboard for the majority 
of my iPhone input and I need it to work better with iOS than what I'm 
hearing how it works with the current iOS 13.1.2. I've also gotten that 
prompt to install the iOS 13.1.2 download and after declining it now for 
three times, I went into Settings, General, iPhone storage, iOS 13.1.2, 
and deleted the download. As Dave said, it will no doubt download again 
but at least I've cleared out that almost 2GB of storage and it shouldn't 
be prompting me to install anything until it downloads again.




Alan Lemly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Susie Stageberg

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question



Good morning all.



My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
“later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for 
a while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about 
people having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it 
might be a good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. 
I am running along very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not 
need the latest and greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.




Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will 
get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the 
ostrich?




Susie







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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Dave]

it’s not in iCloud.

You go to settings, then general. then swipe until you hear storage.

Dave.


From: Holly 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Hi Alan:

I got my first update notice last night, but didn’t get any other options, such 
as ‘download now’ or ‘remind me later’

I just cleared the message.  When I went into I cloud storage, there was no iOS 
13.1.2, or whatever.  Just a list of my apps.
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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, You can go into settings, general, software update and at the bottom of the 
screen is a toggle that says automatic updates. Toggle that to off. It 
shouldn't download it again if you delete the update from storage.

want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I will 
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> On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Some time, when I have no Voice Over, I ask Siri the temperature or how many 
> m iles from here to Washington, D>C>, then flick and read what she brings up 
> on the Internet. Sometimes that works; sometimes it does not. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> Susie,
> 
> 
> 
> I've never believed that taking care with updates is an ostrich move. I've 
> been using computers since the IBM PC came out in 1981 and after many update 
> cycles, I've concluded that a large majority of the updates have caused more 
> issues than provided features that I couldn't live without. I'm also waiting 
> until iOS 13.x has a release with fewer bugs for Voiceover users. I use the 
> FlickType third party keyboard for the majority of my iPhone input and I need 
> it to work better with iOS than what I'm hearing how it works with the 
> current iOS 13.1.2. I've also gotten that prompt to install the iOS 13.1.2 
> download and after declining it now for three times, I went into Settings, 
> General, iPhone storage, iOS 13.1.2, and deleted the download. As Dave said, 
> it will no doubt download again but at least I've cleared out that almost 2GB 
> of storage and it shouldn't be prompting me to install anything until it 
> downloads again.
> 
> 
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susie Stageberg
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> 
> 
> Good morning all.
> 
> 
> 
> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
> “later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a 
> while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people 
> having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a 
> good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running 
> along very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest 
> and greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.
> 
> 
> 
> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get 
> a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?
> 
> 
> 
> Susie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello list,

So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s
out of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have
never looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone
plays lotto and how they buy their tickets.

I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but
again, never paid it much mind.

Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays
the state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe
side, something that covers the national and California  super lotto games.
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.

If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an
iOS app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

Consumer Cellular would not give me any on my SE for an 11 last night, because 
I checked. I figured if I could get a good enough trade, I would take the 11, 
because my husband thinks he'd like the camera. He doesn't use the phone 
himself to make it worth us getting though. He may just have to learn to live 
without, since I think I can be patient to hold off a few months. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it was 
released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it would have 
the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 GB that I've got on 
my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen to audio books either mp3 
ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or by using the bard mobile app.  I'm 
currently listening to The Grapes of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I 
highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> ???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the 
>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
>> iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
>> also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Carolyn Arnold]

Some time, when I have no Voice Over, I ask Siri the temperature or how many m 
iles from here to Washington, D>C>, then flick and read what she brings up on 
the Internet. Sometimes that works; sometimes it does not. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Susie,

 

I've never believed that taking care with updates is an ostrich move. I've been 
using computers since the IBM PC came out in 1981 and after many update cycles, 
I've concluded that a large majority of the updates have caused more issues 
than provided features that I couldn't live without. I'm also waiting until iOS 
13.x has a release with fewer bugs for Voiceover users. I use the FlickType 
third party keyboard for the majority of my iPhone input and I need it to work 
better with iOS than what I'm hearing how it works with the current iOS 13.1.2. 
I've also gotten that prompt to install the iOS 13.1.2 download and after 
declining it now for three times, I went into Settings, General, iPhone 
storage, iOS 13.1.2, and deleted the download. As Dave said, it will no doubt 
download again but at least I've cleared out that almost 2GB of storage and it 
shouldn't be prompting me to install anything until it downloads again.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

 

Good morning all.

 

My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on “later” 
and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a while. 
From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people having a 
hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to 
hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very 
nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest and greatest 
just because it’s the latest and greatest.

 

Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get a 
better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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issues with hardware keyboards

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

After upgrading to IOS13, I noticed a number of issues with hardware keyboards. 
Before we go any further, I was able to replicate the issues with 2 hardware 
keyboards. The Amazon basics keyboard and the Logitech K87. First, I noticed 
the absents of the quick navigation status announcements in edit fields for 
apps such as the messages app. I also noticed that in empty text fields, 
voiceover now no longer says send dimmed. Instead it just says send. I’ve also 
noticed other behaviors. For example, when using the hardware keyboard to 
delete messages, quick navigation appears to automatically turn off and the 
voice prompt asking are you sure you want to delete this conversation either is 
truncated or the voiceover volume drops while the prompt is being spoken. I 
also noted that after I have responded to a message and tried to delete it with 
the hardware keyboard, the screen appears to jump away from that message. The 
only options I have for deleting a message to which I have responded are to 
close and reopen the messages app and then using the hardware keyboard, delete 
the message. Or, using the onscreen keyboard to delete the message. Is there a 
setting I need to change or is that something with IOS13? Has anyone else seen 
this? Thanks folks.

Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

No, it will not be in the body of the current SE. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 12:59 PM
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Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

Agreed, as What's the Difference except  Apple's A13Bionic processin chip

Apple is still Saling  its iPhone8 & iPhone8+ & Apple isn't saling its 1st 
Generation iPhoneSE

Thought it was going to be in the Same Body-Frame as  the 1st, Guess Not based 
on this News At 04:52 AM 10/9/2019, you wrote:
>If apple really wanted to hit a home run, they would put the new iPhone 
>SE2  in the same size body as he old iPhone SE.
>This move to larger and larger screens is a tremendous waste.
>Tim
>
>On 10/9/19, Gordon  wrote:
> > For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home 
> > button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first 
> > quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
> > iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
> > also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
> > $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
> > upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
> > worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
> > 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

When I saw about in Market News in Apple's stock on Google, it said that it was 
broadcast on CNBC last week, and that the SE 2 would be the size of the current 
iPhone 8 with the 11 processor and the button and finger print ID - works for 
me, if that is right. I thought that was a reasonable reliable source. 

I tried to find the video, but I'm not quite that good with Google on my 
computer, did not find the clip. 

I am willing to follow Dave's advice and wait and see. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 12:52 PM
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Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

Interesting:
As I was under the  presumption, that the Rumored iPhoneSE 2nd Generation was 
going to be in "The Body" of its predecessor, the Orginal iPhoneSE, which was 
Lunched in the Spring of 2016.
When I heard that it was going to have  similar Specs to Apple's iPhone8, I 
presumed it was referring to  the TouchID because I heard it was going to be 
Equipped with Apple's latest processin chip, Apple's A13Bionic

Learn something new

Thanx
At 01:23 AM 10/9/2019, you wrote:
>For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home 
>button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first 
>quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 
>8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also 
>indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between
>$349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something worth 
>waiting for. Apple plans to sell 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the 
>first year.
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

I definitely will buy the SE 2, if it comes out. I wish I knew for sure, but by 
then, if it doesn't, Consumer Cellular has a fair plan for the 11, but no trade 
in on my little SE. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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ok so I am going to say this. Most don't think bigger phones are a waste. They 
sell very well. I would buy this SE 2 even though I hate smaller phones. 64 gb 
is a nice size to start off with.

On 10/9/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it 
> would have the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 
> GB that I've got on my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen 
> to audio books either mp3 ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or 
> by using the bard mobile app.  I'm currently listening to The Grapes 
> of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I highly recommend.
>
> On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
>> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Davy Cuppens
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>>
>> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>>
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>>
>> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
>> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>>
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>>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in 
>>> the iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. 
>>> Rumors also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
>>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

Works every time! 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Dave
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:27 AM
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The easy answer is, to wait and see.

Dave.


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Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
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> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>
> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home 
> button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first 
> quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 
> 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also 
> indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for 
> the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like 
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> Apple plans to sell
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

They probably make or will make 64's, but they'd cost more. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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Dave
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I think that the minimum storage, needed these days, is 64 GB.

You can manage with 32 GB, if you are a very light user, with not so many apps.

Dave.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:12 PM
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Subject: RE: The iPhone SE2

Yeah, I would go for that in a heartbeat.  I don't want a bigger phone, just 
more than 16 g memory.  Smile!!

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Tim Mehok
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 7:53 AM
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If apple really wanted to hit a home run, they would put the new iPhone SE2 in 
the same size body as he old iPhone SE.
This move to larger and larger screens is a tremendous waste.
Tim

On 10/9/19, Gordon  wrote:
> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home 
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> 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also 
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> the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like 
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> Apple plans to sell
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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Carolyn Arnold]

Susie, if I was where you are and knew what I know, I'd wait until people on 
the list started saying that there were fewer problems. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Susie Stageberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:46 AM
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Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Good morning all.

 

My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on “later” 
and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a while. 
From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people having a 
hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to 
hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very 
nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest and greatest 
just because it’s the latest and greatest.

 

Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get a 
better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Susie Stageberg]

No. I'll be home briefly this afternoon. Tomorrow afternoon and evening are 
better. That work for you?

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Sandy Finley  
> wrote:
> 
> I, for one,am very happy I upgraded; why I am not having any of the problems 
> others describe I cannot tell you. It is dumb luck — no skill  there! I was 
> eager to change the touch gesture for the rotor. 
> 
> We had talked about talking on the phone; guess I got kind  of distracted.  
> Are you home now?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> you can also, delete the update from storage, which you will find in 
>> settings, then general.
>>  
>> But, it will redownload again at some point. But just keep doing the same 
>> thing, until you are happy to update.
>>  
>> Dave.
>>  
>>  
>> From: Susie Stageberg
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 3:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
>>  
>> Good morning all.
>>  
>> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
>> “later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a 
>> while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people 
>> having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a 
>> good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running 
>> along very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the 
>> latest and greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.
>>  
>> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will 
>> get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?
>>  
>> Susie
>>  
>>  
>>  
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RE: Dice World

[Louise Johnson]

Hi Karen I also like most of it myself but I cannot find how many games you 
have going at one time over all. If anyone can share where to find that please 
share. 

For all I didn't like the new games on top that just your other players played 
so I found a way to change it.
Go into settings and go to games and you will find having the new on top I 
turned it off and the older games are now on the top. 

Louise and princess Kiara 

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dice World

Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper and lower values, and the 
open spots without picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like it, 
though.

Karen
At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote:
>I like how it is set up now. And some of the sounds are less annoying. 
>I would love to play with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember 
>my username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > It is still there, they just changed the
> name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> I also noticed after the updates the other
> day everything looks very different.
> >> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but 
> >> I still get notices that I am receiving gold.
> >> Does anyone know what is going on?
> >> Teresa☺
> >>
> >> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
> >>
> >>
>  On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> >>> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara Hi I also 
> >>> having after playing for gold
> sometimes the app will close. I am
> >>> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen
> that I not getting bonus gold of 10
> >>> after the update of dice word.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> >>> Of Cook, Steve
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Dice World
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
> >>>
> >>> Using the current version of Dice World on
> an iPhone XR running version 12.
> >>> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
> >>>
> >>> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app again.
> >>> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
> >>> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the 
> >>> app dos not crash?
> >>>
> >>> User name Steve6009
> >>>
> >>>
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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Louise Johnson]

Hi I also am waiting to update. Yes there are ones of you who are doing it and 
sharing the bugs with Apple and I thank you for that. I just not a person who 
wants any problems only a few years in and just want tech to work all the time. 
Louise and princess Kiara 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

My Iphone 8 is running 12.41 and I'm not upgrading until some of these major 
bugs are getting fixed.  I only had one reminder about the update yesterday.  I 
also found remind me later and just for referrence, don't enter in your 
passcode if you're prompted for it.
My iPhone 8 is working just fine, and I see no need to update at this time.  
I'm so glad I got on this list so I can be warned about things like major bugs 
and so on.  Granted, I don't really use my phone to check email, but I really 
don't like the thought of voiceover shutting down after a phone call.  Until 
that is fixed for sure, I'm not upgrading.  I'd recommend not to update just 
yet.  A lot of my friends are also waiting to update as well.

On 10/9/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
> Good morning all.
>
>
>
> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped 
> on "later" and then "disagree", I hopes this would make it leave me 
> alone for a while. From reading all the posts on this list (and 
> elsewhere) about people having a hard time with this upgrade, it 
> occurred to me that it might be a good idea to hold off until they get 
> some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very nicely with 12.2 and 
> I'm one of those who does not need the latest and greatest just 
> because it's the latest and greatest.
>
>
>
> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I 
> will get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the 
> ostrich?
>
>
>
> Susie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Cristobal Muñoz]

A follow up. A quick Amazon search brought up this battery case for the 6 and 
6S for $28 US 
Pxwaxpy Battery Case for iPhone 6S 6 6000mAh Rechargeable Charging Case for 
iPhone 6 External Charger Cover iPhone 6S Battery Pack Apple Power Bank [4.7 
inch]- Black
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DVMJXRM/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_-4HNDbVJ2T7Z2
There were a few others around the same price range and similar capacity. I 
have no idea as far as product quality, but a $30 band aid isn't all that bad 
if all you want is to get through the next few months in order to make a better 
decision on what it is you want to do.


-Original Message-
From: Cristobal Muñoz  
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The iPhone SE2

Even now, a battery swap for that model phone probably isn't all that 
outrageous price-wise. That or you could buy a battery case just to get you 
through the next few months. Being a 6S, you could likely score a case for 
around $30 give or take on the brand and capacity.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it was 
released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it would have 
the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 GB that I've got on 
my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen to audio books either mp3 
ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or by using the bard mobile app.  I'm 
currently listening to The Grapes of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I 
highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> ???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the 
>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
>> iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
>> also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between
>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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Re: Todoist

[Jennie Facer]

I recommend an app done by Microsoft called To Do. It is a great app for task 
management. They talk about VoiceOver in their App Store ad. At least I think 
it is still there. I’m talking about talking about Voiceover being talked about.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi
TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone used the Todoist app for task management? Jonathan Mosen
> recommended it on a recent podcast, but when I downloaded it I really
> couldn't make sense of the interface. A lot of buttons seemed to do
> nothing when pressed, and adding a task was a pain. You also have to
> pay to get some pretty basic features.
> 
> Does anyone know how well it works with Voiceover? I've had real
> trouble finding a good task management app besides Reminders.
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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Alan Lemly]

Sandy,

 

I'm with Holly. Maybe that inadvertent automatic send is a new feature of iOS 
13.x (sardonic smile).

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandy Finley
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

 

 

Apologies;  I never meant to send that to the list. I swear I did not press 
“send”; it just sent it self.

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Susie,

 

I've never believed that taking care with updates is an ostrich move. I've been 
using computers since the IBM PC came out in 1981 and after many update cycles, 
I've concluded that a large majority of the updates have caused more issues 
than provided features that I couldn't live without. I'm also waiting until iOS 
13.x has a release with fewer bugs for Voiceover users. I use the FlickType 
third party keyboard for the majority of my iPhone input and I need it to work 
better with iOS than what I'm hearing how it works with the current iOS 13.1.2. 
I've also gotten that prompt to install the iOS 13.1.2 download and after 
declining it now for three times, I went into Settings, General, iPhone 
storage, iOS 13.1.2, and deleted the download. As Dave said, it will no doubt 
download again but at least I've cleared out that almost 2GB of storage and it 
shouldn't be prompting me to install anything until it downloads again.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

 

Good morning all.

 

My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on “later” 
and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a while. 
From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people having a 
hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to 
hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very 
nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest and greatest 
just because it’s the latest and greatest.

 

Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get a 
better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Davy Cuppens]

Maybe while you are not using the apps in which the bugs occur.
I saw the mail vo focus bug in any updated iphone that was tested after my 
advice. In every notification center, the focus issues were present.
Only the phone call bug is user dependend.
Davy 

From: Sandy Finley 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

I, for one,am very happy I upgraded; why I am not having any of the problems 
others describe I cannot tell you. It is dumb luck — no skill  there! I was 
eager to change the touch gesture for the rotor.  

We had talked about talking on the phone; guess I got kind  of distracted.  Are 
you home now?


Sent from my iPhone


  On Oct 9, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Dave  wrote:


   
  you can also, delete the update from storage, which you will find in 
settings, then general.

  But, it will redownload again at some point. But just keep doing the same 
thing, until you are happy to update.

  Dave.


  From: Susie Stageberg 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 3:45 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

  Good morning all.

   

  My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
“later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a 
while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people 
having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a good 
idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along 
very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest and 
greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.

   

  Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get 
a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?

   

  Susie

   

   

   

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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Holly]

Sandy:

Maybe you have more bugs than you think.  Hahahaha.

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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Even now, a battery swap for that model phone probably isn't all that 
outrageous price-wise. That or you could buy a battery case just to get you 
through the next few months. Being a 6S, you could likely score a case for 
around $30 give or take on the brand and capacity.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it was 
released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it would have 
the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 GB that I've got on 
my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen to audio books either mp3 
ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or by using the bard mobile app.  I'm 
currently listening to The Grapes of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I 
highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> ???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the 
>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
>> iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
>> also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Holly]

Hi Alan:

I got my first update notice last night, but didn’t get any other options, such 
as ‘download now’ or ‘remind me later’

I just cleared the message.  When I went into I cloud storage, there was no iOS 
13.1.2, or whatever.  Just a list of my apps.

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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Victor Gouveia]

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 
6S.


I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it 
was released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.


Victor

-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it
would have the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256
GB that I've got on my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen
to audio books either mp3 ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or
by using the bard mobile app.  I'm currently listening to The Grapes
of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:

The easy answer is, to wait and see.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.




Richard
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it." -- Jane Wagner



On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:

???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home
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quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8
body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate
that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig
version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school
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Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

[Teresa Christian]

I'm headed off to the Apple store after all. Making that change in the
general, keyboard andswipe... that helped all the extra jabbering but
still did not help the going scilent all of a sudden. Gerr.
Teresa☺

On 10/9/19, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> Question for all betatesting ios13.2, what about this annoing bug in the
> mail app.
> Regards
> Davy
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app
>
> Swipe to type should not impact this cursor jumping behaviour, it only comes
>
> not play in an edit field.
> As Davy said, I hope all and I mean everybody who replied on here with "me
> too" will take the time to write accessibil...@apple.com and request that
> this behaviour is fixed. If you don't do so don't complain.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim
> Fettgather
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app
>
> I also am experiencing the situation where after reading a message, and
> pressing the Back button, focus will be random and sometimes jump to the top
>
> of the list, very unsettling.
> I have started using Outlook for IOS, which is free, and will connect very
> nicely to most email services.
> No focus problems in this app, very Voiceover friendly.
>
> On 10/8/19, Teresa Christian  wrote:
>> I literally was checking my email just before heading out to go to the
>> Apple store to get my phone looked at.
>> It has been doing really crazy stuff for the past two days.
>> After I saw this email, went in to general and keyboards, made the
>> change and it seems to be working fine.
>> Here are some of the crazy things it was doing; A lot of them I would
>> never think would get fixed with just that change.
>> cursor bouncing all over the place
>> Voice Over shutting down for no apparent reason Lots of intrusive
>> messages such as Try this and try that Suggested this and that
>> messages intrusive autofill when typing "voice control is not
>> listening" every 3 seconds when I was on the phone I think there were
>> more, but I can't remember them all.
>> It was super bizarre behavior.
>> My daughter and son-in-law are major geeks and can usually fix
>> anything strange going on with my phone and they couldn't figure out
>> what was going on this time.
>> Thank you, you guys, you saved me a very time consuming trip to the
>> Apple Store.
>>
>> For the person having trouble reading email.
>> I don't usually delete my email the way you described, but I tried it
>> to see what you might be talking about.
>> I swipe to get to the body of the email, so don't know if you're doing
>> the reading part that way.
>> Then at the bottom it does only say from left to right, "Archives" and
>> "More Actions Available"
>> When I tapped on "More actions available" it opened up and then across
>> the bottom it did not seem to have delete, but it has several rows of
>> a ton of other stuff. I guess you'd have to tap on move to trash or
>> junk to get rid of it.
>> Has someone else found the delete button?
>> Teresa☺
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/8/19, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>>> It does not work for me When it comes to reading messages. I’m not
>>> sure if you all are talking about reading or composing. Definitely,
>>> turning it off helps with composing, but reading is another issue
>>> altogether. I spend so much time just looking for the body of a
>>> message that it is ridiculous.
>>> And
>>> in the past, I was able to swipe up to the delete button and just
>>> double tap it to delete a message. Now, I cannot do that anymore and
>>> sometimes the delete button is nearly impossible to find,  Even at
>>> the bottom of the screen. For me at least, reading mail is dreadful
>>> right now and I really hope it gets fixed soon.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dave  wrote:

 Hi Sandy. I would appreciate it. If you could let us know, if it
 worked for you.

 Dave.


 -Original Message- From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the
 email app

 penny,
 I have just done this and hope it will work! Thanks for the tip!
 Sandy

 Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:30, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>
> Go to settings.then general, then keyboards. Turn off Slide to type.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:21 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  Running an iPhone 8 with the latest ios version 13.1.2 and am
>> having sever problems with the cursor moving, usually to the top
>> of my 

Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sandy Finley]

Apologies;  I never meant to send that to the list. I swear I did not press 
“send”; it just sent it self.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Susie,
>  
> I've never believed that taking care with updates is an ostrich move. I've 
> been using computers since the IBM PC came out in 1981 and after many update 
> cycles, I've concluded that a large majority of the updates have caused more 
> issues than provided features that I couldn't live without. I'm also waiting 
> until iOS 13.x has a release with fewer bugs for Voiceover users. I use the 
> FlickType third party keyboard for the majority of my iPhone input and I need 
> it to work better with iOS than what I'm hearing how it works with the 
> current iOS 13.1.2. I've also gotten that prompt to install the iOS 13.1.2 
> download and after declining it now for three times, I went into Settings, 
> General, iPhone storage, iOS 13.1.2, and deleted the download. As Dave said, 
> it will no doubt download again but at least I've cleared out that almost 2GB 
> of storage and it shouldn't be prompting me to install anything until it 
> downloads again.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susie Stageberg
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
>  
> Good morning all.
>  
> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
> “later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a 
> while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people 
> having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a 
> good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running 
> along very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest 
> and greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.
>  
> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get 
> a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?
>  
> Susie
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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sandy Finley]

I, for one,am very happy I upgraded; why I am not having any of the problems 
others describe I cannot tell you. It is dumb luck — no skill  there! I was 
eager to change the touch gesture for the rotor. 

We had talked about talking on the phone; guess I got kind  of distracted.  Are 
you home now?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> 
> you can also, delete the update from storage, which you will find in 
> settings, then general.
>  
> But, it will redownload again at some point. But just keep doing the same 
> thing, until you are happy to update.
>  
> Dave.
>  
>  
> From: Susie Stageberg
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> Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
>  
> Good morning all.
>  
> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
> “later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a 
> while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people 
> having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a 
> good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running 
> along very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest 
> and greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.
>  
> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get 
> a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?
>  
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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Alan Lemly]

Susie,

 

I've never believed that taking care with updates is an ostrich move. I've been 
using computers since the IBM PC came out in 1981 and after many update cycles, 
I've concluded that a large majority of the updates have caused more issues 
than provided features that I couldn't live without. I'm also waiting until iOS 
13.x has a release with fewer bugs for Voiceover users. I use the FlickType 
third party keyboard for the majority of my iPhone input and I need it to work 
better with iOS than what I'm hearing how it works with the current iOS 13.1.2. 
I've also gotten that prompt to install the iOS 13.1.2 download and after 
declining it now for three times, I went into Settings, General, iPhone 
storage, iOS 13.1.2, and deleted the download. As Dave said, it will no doubt 
download again but at least I've cleared out that almost 2GB of storage and it 
shouldn't be prompting me to install anything until it downloads again.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

 

Good morning all.

 

My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on “later” 
and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a while. 
From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people having a 
hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to 
hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very 
nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest and greatest 
just because it’s the latest and greatest.

 

Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get a 
better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Robin]

Agreed, as What's the Difference except  Apple's A13Bionic processin chip

Apple is still Saling  its iPhone8 & iPhone8+
&
Apple isn't saling its 1st Generation iPhoneSE

Thought it was going to be in the Same Body-Frame as  the 1st, Guess 
Not based on this News

At 04:52 AM 10/9/2019, you wrote:

If apple really wanted to hit a home run, they would put the new
iPhone SE2  in the same size body as he old iPhone SE.
This move to larger and larger screens is a tremendous waste.
Tim

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> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home
> button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first
> quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8
> body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate
> that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig
> version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school
> touch ID, this might be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Robin]

Interesting:
As I was under the  presumption, that the Rumored iPhoneSE 2nd 
Generation was going to be in "The Body" of its predecessor, the 
Orginal iPhoneSE, which was Lunched in the Spring of 2016.
When I heard that it was going to have  similar Specs to Apple's 
iPhone8, I presumed it was referring to  the TouchID because I heard 
it was going to be Equipped with Apple's latest processin chip, 
Apple's A13Bionic


Learn something new

Thanx
At 01:23 AM 10/9/2019, you wrote:
For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home 
button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first 
quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
$349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
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Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

[Davy Cuppens]

Question for all betatesting ios13.2, what about this annoing bug in the 
mail app.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

Swipe to type should not impact this cursor jumping behaviour, it only comes 
not play in an edit field.
As Davy said, I hope all and I mean everybody who replied on here with "me 
too" will take the time to write accessibil...@apple.com and request that 
this behaviour is fixed. If you don't do so don't complain.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

I also am experiencing the situation where after reading a message, and 
pressing the Back button, focus will be random and sometimes jump to the top 
of the list, very unsettling.
I have started using Outlook for IOS, which is free, and will connect very 
nicely to most email services.

No focus problems in this app, very Voiceover friendly.

On 10/8/19, Teresa Christian  wrote:

I literally was checking my email just before heading out to go to the
Apple store to get my phone looked at.
It has been doing really crazy stuff for the past two days.
After I saw this email, went in to general and keyboards, made the
change and it seems to be working fine.
Here are some of the crazy things it was doing; A lot of them I would
never think would get fixed with just that change.
cursor bouncing all over the place
Voice Over shutting down for no apparent reason Lots of intrusive
messages such as Try this and try that Suggested this and that
messages intrusive autofill when typing "voice control is not
listening" every 3 seconds when I was on the phone I think there were
more, but I can't remember them all.
It was super bizarre behavior.
My daughter and son-in-law are major geeks and can usually fix
anything strange going on with my phone and they couldn't figure out
what was going on this time.
Thank you, you guys, you saved me a very time consuming trip to the
Apple Store.

For the person having trouble reading email.
I don't usually delete my email the way you described, but I tried it
to see what you might be talking about.
I swipe to get to the body of the email, so don't know if you're doing
the reading part that way.
Then at the bottom it does only say from left to right, "Archives" and
"More Actions Available"
When I tapped on "More actions available" it opened up and then across
the bottom it did not seem to have delete, but it has several rows of
a ton of other stuff. I guess you'd have to tap on move to trash or
junk to get rid of it.
Has someone else found the delete button?
Teresa☺




On 10/8/19, Lynn Schneider  wrote:

It does not work for me When it comes to reading messages. I’m not
sure if you all are talking about reading or composing. Definitely,
turning it off helps with composing, but reading is another issue
altogether. I spend so much time just looking for the body of a
message that it is ridiculous.
And
in the past, I was able to swipe up to the delete button and just
double tap it to delete a message. Now, I cannot do that anymore and
sometimes the delete button is nearly impossible to find,  Even at
the bottom of the screen. For me at least, reading mail is dreadful
right now and I really hope it gets fixed soon.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dave  wrote:

Hi Sandy. I would appreciate it. If you could let us know, if it
worked for you.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the
email app

penny,
I have just done this and hope it will work! Thanks for the tip!
Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon


On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:30, Penny Reeder  wrote:

Go to settings.then general, then keyboards. Turn off Slide to type.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:21 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
 wrote:


Hi,

 Running an iPhone 8 with the latest ios version 13.1.2 and am
having sever problems with the cursor moving, usually to the top
of my email inbox list. I am having to use my iPhone 6, luckily,
still running
12.4
or whatever it is Is anyone else getting this behaviour? If I
open an email to read it, then exit, I am placed back at the top
of the inbox, as my inbox has many, many, messages in it, and I
have to trawl through hundreds on a daly basis, my 8 has become
unusable for mail. I have tried a reset settings, but it made no 
difference.


Help please! Sandy.

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RE: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Swipe to type should not impact this cursor jumping behaviour, it only comes 
not play in an edit field.
As Davy said, I hope all and I mean everybody who replied on here with "me too" 
will take the time to write accessibil...@apple.com and request that this 
behaviour is fixed. If you don't do so don't complain.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

I also am experiencing the situation where after reading a message, and 
pressing the Back button, focus will be random and sometimes jump to the top of 
the list, very unsettling.
I have started using Outlook for IOS, which is free, and will connect very 
nicely to most email services.
No focus problems in this app, very Voiceover friendly.

On 10/8/19, Teresa Christian  wrote:
> I literally was checking my email just before heading out to go to the 
> Apple store to get my phone looked at.
> It has been doing really crazy stuff for the past two days.
> After I saw this email, went in to general and keyboards, made the 
> change and it seems to be working fine.
> Here are some of the crazy things it was doing; A lot of them I would 
> never think would get fixed with just that change.
> cursor bouncing all over the place
> Voice Over shutting down for no apparent reason Lots of intrusive 
> messages such as Try this and try that Suggested this and that 
> messages intrusive autofill when typing "voice control is not 
> listening" every 3 seconds when I was on the phone I think there were 
> more, but I can't remember them all.
> It was super bizarre behavior.
> My daughter and son-in-law are major geeks and can usually fix 
> anything strange going on with my phone and they couldn't figure out 
> what was going on this time.
> Thank you, you guys, you saved me a very time consuming trip to the 
> Apple Store.
>
> For the person having trouble reading email.
> I don't usually delete my email the way you described, but I tried it 
> to see what you might be talking about.
> I swipe to get to the body of the email, so don't know if you're doing 
> the reading part that way.
> Then at the bottom it does only say from left to right, "Archives" and 
> "More Actions Available"
> When I tapped on "More actions available" it opened up and then across 
> the bottom it did not seem to have delete, but it has several rows of 
> a ton of other stuff. I guess you'd have to tap on move to trash or 
> junk to get rid of it.
> Has someone else found the delete button?
> Teresa☺
>
>
>
>
> On 10/8/19, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>> It does not work for me When it comes to reading messages. I’m not 
>> sure if you all are talking about reading or composing. Definitely, 
>> turning it off helps with composing, but reading is another issue 
>> altogether. I spend so much time just looking for the body of a 
>> message that it is ridiculous.
>> And
>> in the past, I was able to swipe up to the delete button and just 
>> double tap it to delete a message. Now, I cannot do that anymore and 
>> sometimes the delete button is nearly impossible to find,  Even at 
>> the bottom of the screen. For me at least, reading mail is dreadful 
>> right now and I really hope it gets fixed soon.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sandy. I would appreciate it. If you could let us know, if it 
>>> worked for you.
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the 
>>> email app
>>>
>>> penny,
>>> I have just done this and hope it will work! Thanks for the tip!
>>> Sandy
>>>
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>>
 On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:30, Penny Reeder  wrote:

 Go to settings.then general, then keyboards. Turn off Slide to type.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:21 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>  Running an iPhone 8 with the latest ios version 13.1.2 and am 
> having sever problems with the cursor moving, usually to the top 
> of my email inbox list. I am having to use my iPhone 6, luckily, 
> still running
> 12.4
> or whatever it is Is anyone else getting this behaviour? If I 
> open an email to read it, then exit, I am placed back at the top 
> of the inbox, as my inbox has many, many, messages in it, and I 
> have to trawl through hundreds on a daly basis, my 8 has become 
> unusable for mail. I have tried a reset settings, but it made no 
> difference.
>
> Help please! Sandy.
>
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Todoist

[Kelby Carlson]

Has anyone used the Todoist app for task management? Jonathan Mosen
recommended it on a recent podcast, but when I downloaded it I really
couldn't make sense of the interface. A lot of buttons seemed to do
nothing when pressed, and adding a task was a pain. You also have to
pay to get some pretty basic features.

Does anyone know how well it works with Voiceover? I've had real
trouble finding a good task management app besides Reminders.

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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I echo Richard's sentiment, I would like to see where this was "confirmed" as 
he posted. I heard no announcement from Apple and while some analyst's 
predictions are better than others, predictions is all they are and I somehow 
doubt that Apple would even still release a 32Gb device. This is all rumours at 
this point.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

ok so I am going to say this. Most don't think bigger phones are a waste. They 
sell very well. I would buy this SE 2 even though I hate smaller phones. 64 gb 
is a nice size to start off with.

On 10/9/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it 
> would have the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 
> GB that I've got on my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen 
> to audio books either mp3 ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or 
> by using the bard mobile app.  I'm currently listening to The Grapes 
> of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I highly recommend.
>
> On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
>> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Davy Cuppens
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>>
>> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>>
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>>
>> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
>> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the 
>>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in 
>>> the iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. 
>>> Rumors also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
>>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
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Re: Dice World

[Judy Holloway]

I like having everything on one screen in the diceworld app now. I'm still 
getting used to the new layout.

Judy

On Oct 9, 2019 10:36 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  
wrote:
>
> Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper 
> and lower values, and the open spots without 
> picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like it, though. 
>
> Karen 
> At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote: 
> >I like how it is set up now. And some of the 
> >sounds are less annoying. I would love to play 
> >with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember 
> >my username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that? 
> > 
> >Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> > > On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin  
> > > wrote: 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > It is still there, they just changed the 
> > name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have. 
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps. 
> > > 
> > > Chris 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian 
> >  wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> I also noticed after the updates the other 
> > day everything looks very different. 
> > >> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but I 
> > >> still get notices that I am receiving gold. 
> > >> Does anyone know what is going on? 
> > >> Teresa☺ 
> > >> 
> > >> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> >  On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote: 
> > >>> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara 
> > >>> Hi I also having after playing for gold 
> > sometimes the app will close. I am 
> > >>> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen 
> > that I not getting bonus gold of 10 
> > >>> after the update of dice word. 
> > >>> 
> > >>> -Original Message- 
> > >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > >>> Of Cook, Steve 
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM 
> > >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > >>> Subject: Dice World 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hi All, 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Using the current version of Dice World on 
> > an iPhone XR running version 12. 
> > >>> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues. 
> > >>> 
> > >>> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app 
> > >>> again. 
> > >>> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game. 
> > >>> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the app 
> > >>> dos 
> > >>> not crash? 
> > >>> 
> > >>> User name Steve6009 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Steve Cook, CPM 
> > >>> Assistive Technology Consultant 
> > >>> SC Commission for the Blind 
> > >>> 1430 Confederate avenue 
> > >>> Columbia, SC 29201 
> > >>> Office: (803) 898-8788 
> > >>> Cell: (803) 908-3856 
> > >>> 1-888-335-5951 
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Re: The iPhone SE2

[lenron brown]

ok so I am going to say this. Most don't think bigger phones are a
waste. They sell very well. I would buy this SE 2 even though I hate
smaller phones. 64 gb is a nice size to start off with.

On 10/9/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it
> would have the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256
> GB that I've got on my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen
> to audio books either mp3 ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or
> by using the bard mobile app.  I'm currently listening to The Grapes
> of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I highly recommend.
>
> On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
>> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Davy Cuppens
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>>
>> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>>
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>>
>> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
>> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>> it." -- Jane Wagner
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home
>>> button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first
>>> quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8
>>> body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate
>>> that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig
>>> version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school
>>> touch ID, this might be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Joshua Hendrickson]

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it
would have the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256
GB that I've got on my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen
to audio books either mp3 ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or
by using the bard mobile app.  I'm currently listening to The Grapes
of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it." -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home
>> button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first
>> quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8
>> body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate
>> that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig
>> version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school
>> touch ID, this might be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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Re: Dice World

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

Sure wish I could still find the toggle for upper 
and lower values, and the open spots without 
picking around to figure it out. *sigh*  Mostly, I like it, though.


Karen
At 02:05 PM 10/8/2019, you wrote:
I like how it is set up now. And some of the 
sounds are less annoying. I would love to play 
with everyone on this thread. I can’t remember 
my username though, is there somewhere I can go to find that?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>
> 
> It is still there, they just changed the 
name.  Look for number of bonuses.  This is the amount of gold you have.

>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Teresa Christian 
 wrote:

>>
>> I also noticed after the updates the other 
day everything looks very different.

>> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but I
>> still get notices that I am receiving gold.
>> Does anyone know what is going on?
>> Teresa☺
>>
>> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
>>
>>
 On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
>>> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara
>>> Hi I also having after playing for gold 
sometimes the app will close. I am
>>> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen 
that I not getting bonus gold of 10

>>> after the update of dice word.
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>>>
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>>> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
>>>
>>> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app again.
>>> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
>>> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the app dos
>>> not crash?
>>>
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Re: Dice World

[viola]

hello,

I also have a question, I really don’t like this new layout much, because I 
can’t find the scores at the bottom of your top row and bottom row so I can 
keep track of what the score should be. So on the lower level or the upper 
level at a certain point I can’t see the score. I also didn’t like the losing 
game sound. I had to turn it off.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:44 AM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi dice world players.  I'm still having difficulty finding the final score 
> in a game when I'm playing against the computer.  Also, I don't understand 
> how to redeem my gold or unlock new levels of the game.  Thanks for any info.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cook, Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 8:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Dice World
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
> 
> Using the current version of Dice World on an iPhone XR running version 12.  
> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
> 
> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app again.  
> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game. 
> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the app dos not 
> crash?
> 
> User name Steve6009
> 
> 
> 
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> SC Commission for the Blind
> 1430 Confederate avenue
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> 1-888-335-5951 
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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Dave]

The easy answer is, to wait and see.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Davy Cuppens

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.




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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Dave]

I think that the minimum storage, needed these days, is 64 GB.

You can manage with 32 GB, if you are a very light user, with not so many 
apps.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: kheve...@earthlink.net

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The iPhone SE2

Yeah, I would go for that in a heartbeat.  I don't want a bigger phone, just 
more than 16 g memory.  Smile!!


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Of Tim Mehok

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If apple really wanted to hit a home run, they would put the new iPhone SE2 
in the same size body as he old iPhone SE.

This move to larger and larger screens is a tremendous waste.
Tim

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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Davy Cuppens]

Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.




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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Dave]

you can also, delete the update from storage, which you will find in settings, 
then general.

But, it will redownload again at some point. But just keep doing the same 
thing, until you are happy to update.

Dave.


From: Susie Stageberg 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Good morning all.

 

My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on “later” 
and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a while. 
From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people having a 
hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to 
hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very 
nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest and greatest 
just because it’s the latest and greatest.

 

Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get a 
better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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RE: The iPhone SE2

[khevener]

Yeah, I would go for that in a heartbeat.  I don't want a bigger phone, just 
more than 16 g memory.  Smile!!

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Tim Mehok
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 7:53 AM
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Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If apple really wanted to hit a home run, they would put the new iPhone SE2  in 
the same size body as he old iPhone SE.
This move to larger and larger screens is a tremendous waste.
Tim

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> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home 
> button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first 
> quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 
> 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also 
> indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for 
> the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like 
> the old school touch ID, this might be something worth waiting for. 
> Apple plans to sell
> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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Does Dark Mode Really Save Battery on Your Phone? - iFixit

[Traci Duncan]

https://www.ifixit.com/News/does-dark-mode-really-save-battery-on-your-phone

Does Dark Mode Really Save Battery on Your Phone?
Kevin PurdyJune 3, 2019
At WWDC today, iOS 13 was shown with a system-wide “Dark Mode.” About one month 
earlier, at Google I/O, Android version Q showed off its own Dark Mode. This 
shift to the dark side is seemingly happening everywhere. But not every device 
gets a battery-saving boost from dark mode.

If your phone has an OLED display, turning on dark mode is like turning off a 
bunch of lights in your house, and the net power gains add up over time. But 
not all “dark” modes are the same.

How Dark Mode Works on OLED Screens


Green, red, blue, green, red, green, blue.
The hardware explanation for the sudden uptick in dark interfaces is that newer 
OLED screens light up differently than traditional LCD screens. Each OLED pixel 
generates its own light, while LCD screens light all pixels from the edges. 
OLED pixels that are black draw no power, and are closer to pitch-black than 
LCD screens, which draw the same amount of power whether they’re displaying an 
all-white image or an all-black one. So if you have a fully black wallpaper on 
your OLED phone, it’ll only light up the pixels it needs to create the icons 
and text, while leaving the background pixels off entirely.

But in their zeal to promote the dark side, some articles don’t make an 
important thing clear: dark mode will not save you any battery power if you’re 
using an LCD screen.

Not sure if your phone has an OLED display? The iPhone X, XS, and XS Max use 
OLED screens, while the iPhone XR, and every iPhone before the X, use LCD. Most 
newer Samsung phones, particularly the Galaxy S and Note series, use OLED, as 
do most of the firm’s devices of the past 3 years. It’s easy enough to search 
for any device on iFixit and look for the “Display” category under 
Specifications.

How Much Difference Does Dark Mode Make?


Image via Google / SlashGear
Each OLED pixel is just one tiny light, but for those who use their phone for 
long periods (more of us than we’d like to admit), those thousands of little 
pixels add up over the hours.

Google’s engineers calculated a 63 percent drop in screen power use between a 
Pixel phone showing a screenshot of Google Maps in normal mode versus dark 
mode. Ryan Whitwam did his own dark mode tests at Greenbot in 2014 and saw a 41 
percent drop in battery draw when reading Reddit in dark mode. AppleInsider 
measured 60 percent battery savings. In real-world use, that’s about an hour of 
extra battery life per day, depending on a few factors. That’s nothing to 
sneeze at. The more battery life your phone gets, the less often you have to 
charge it, and so the less frequently you’ll have to buy a new battery.

How to Enable Dark Mode on Your Phone, Tablet, or Laptop


The easiest way to enable OLED-friendly dark modes is to look in the settings 
of the applications you use most often, or for the longest stretches of time. 
Social media apps like Twitter, Facebook Messenger, many Google apps, and most 
apps meant for reading (Reddit, Pocket, Kindle) offer a dark mode. The Verge is 
keeping an ongoing tally of apps going dark, too.

System-wide dark modes are available in Windows 10 and MacOS Mojave (though 
scant few laptops, and no MacBooks, use OLED screens). iOS 11 and 12 have a 
“Smart Invert” mode that is close to a true “dark mode,” and iOS 13 will have a 
dark mode. Android Q will have a system-wide dark mode, and some alternative 
home screen launchers, like Nova Launcher, can get you halfway there. In 
general, searching the name of the app or device and “dark mode” should reveal 
the answer and the method to enabling dark mode.

Android owners, however, must be extra cautious about installing any extra 
extensions, apps, skins/themes, or other add-ons, especially from companies 
that didn’t make the device or software. Third-party dark modes are often 
awkward and compromised solutions, at best, and could harbor annoying or 
malicious ads or spyware at worst.

What Other Benefits Are There to Dark Mode?


Besides saving you power, there are also subjective benefits of using dark mode 
apps. Turning on your phone in the dark can be startling to you, and annoying 
to people nearby, especially when looking at white webpages or all-white Google 
apps. If you’re going to stare at a phone in a dark room, it can feel less 
fatiguing to look at a mostly-dark screen. None of this absolves you of looking 
at a phone in a theater, by the way―don’t do that.

The third benefit of dark mode is aesthetics, and it can work one of two ways. 
Some people prefer the look of white text on a dark background (our engineering 
team and John Gruber among them). But what about those who prefer a modern, 
white-background look to a somewhat more 1990’s-evoking black canvas with 
brightly colored buttons? Dark mode is a choice, and almost never the default 
for an app or device, so you can avoid it 

Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Joshua Hendrickson]

My Iphone 8 is running 12.41 and I'm not upgrading until some of these
major bugs are getting fixed.  I only had one reminder about the
update yesterday.  I also found remind me later and just for
referrence, don't enter in your passcode if you're prompted for it.
My iPhone 8 is working just fine, and I see no need to update at this
time.  I'm so glad I got on this list so I can be warned about things
like major bugs and so on.  Granted, I don't really use my phone to
check email, but I really don't like the thought of voiceover shutting
down after a phone call.  Until that is fixed for sure, I'm not
upgrading.  I'd recommend not to update just yet.  A lot of my friends
are also waiting to update as well.

On 10/9/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
> Good morning all.
>
>
>
> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on
> "later" and then "disagree", I hopes this would make it leave me alone for
> a
> while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people
> having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a
> good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running
> along very nicely with 12.2 and I'm one of those who does not need the
> latest and greatest just because it's the latest and greatest.
>
>
>
> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will
> get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?
>
>
>
> Susie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." -Eleanor
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Re: How Do I Mute my 6s

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
Once you make the call, on the bottom section of your screen You have elements. 
Activate the hide button. Then in that same section, you have the mute option, 
double tap it to mute it will then say mute selected. Double tap to unmute. 
Feliciano
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On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:39 AM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  wrote:

I have a conference call in 15 minutes, and the sewer construction noise right 
outside my house is unpleasant. How do I mute my phone or earbuds?

Dulce

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To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Susie Stageberg]

Good morning all.

 

My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on
"later" and then "disagree", I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a
while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people
having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a
good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running
along very nicely with 12.2 and I'm one of those who does not need the
latest and greatest just because it's the latest and greatest.

 

Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will
get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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RE: Dice World

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi dice world players.  I'm still having difficulty finding the final score in 
a game when I'm playing against the computer.  Also, I don't understand how to 
redeem my gold or unlock new levels of the game.  Thanks for any info.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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Cook, Steve
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Subject: Dice World

Hi All, 

Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL

Using the current version of Dice World on an iPhone XR running version 12.  
Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.

After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app again.  
The rematch does not show up when you loose a game. 
How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the app dos not 
crash?

User name Steve6009



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How Do I Mute my 6s

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

I have a conference call in 15 minutes, and the sewer construction noise right outside my house is unpleasant.  How do I mute my phone or earbuds?Dulce



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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

Richard, I saw on the net on Apple's stock quote, but I'm like you, skeptical, 
yet still hopeful. I saw that it was on CNBC, but did not see a clip. I never 
thought to go back to Google and google the clip, might do that. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.




Richard
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> 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8 body and will 
> feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate that this phone 
> could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for 
> those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might 
> be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell 30,000,000-40,000,000 of 
> these in the first year.
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Carolyn Arnold]

I saw that on the Net last week, could hardly believe, still hopeful. I believe 
it was discussed last week on CNBC. I am hopeful enough to delay getting an 11 
now to wait until next spring and get the SE 2, if it really comes out. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home button and 
touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first quarter of 2020. 
Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8 body and will feature 
Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate that this phone could 
possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you 
looking to upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.

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Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

[Jim Fettgather]

I also am experiencing the situation where after reading a message,
and pressing the Back button, focus will be random and sometimes jump
to the top of the list, very unsettling.
I have started using Outlook for IOS, which is free, and will connect
very nicely to most email services.
No focus problems in this app, very Voiceover friendly.

On 10/8/19, Teresa Christian  wrote:
> I literally was checking my email just before heading out to go to the
> Apple store to get my phone looked at.
> It has been doing really crazy stuff for the past two days.
> After I saw this email, went in to general and keyboards, made the
> change and it seems to be working fine.
> Here are some of the crazy things it was doing; A lot of them I would
> never think would get fixed with just that change.
> cursor bouncing all over the place
> Voice Over shutting down for no apparent reason
> Lots of intrusive messages such as
> Try this and try that
> Suggested this and that messages
> intrusive autofill when typing
> "voice control is not listening" every 3 seconds when I was on the phone
> I think there were more, but I can't remember them all.
> It was super bizarre behavior.
> My daughter and son-in-law are major geeks and can usually fix
> anything strange going on with my phone and they couldn't figure out
> what was going on this time.
> Thank you, you guys, you saved me a very time consuming trip to the Apple
> Store.
>
> For the person having trouble reading email.
> I don't usually delete my email the way you described, but I tried it
> to see what you might be talking about.
> I swipe to get to the body of the email, so don't know if you're doing
> the reading part that way.
> Then at the bottom it does only say from left to right, "Archives" and
> "More Actions Available"
> When I tapped on "More actions available" it opened up and then across
> the bottom it did not seem to have delete, but it has several rows of
> a ton of other stuff. I guess you'd have to tap on move to trash or
> junk to get rid of it.
> Has someone else found the delete button?
> Teresa☺
>
>
>
>
> On 10/8/19, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>> It does not work for me When it comes to reading messages. I’m not sure
>> if
>> you all are talking about reading or composing. Definitely, turning it
>> off
>> helps with composing, but reading is another issue altogether. I spend so
>> much time just looking for the body of a message that it is ridiculous.
>> And
>> in the past, I was able to swipe up to the delete button and just double
>> tap
>> it to delete a message. Now, I cannot do that anymore and sometimes the
>> delete button is nearly impossible to find,  Even at the bottom of the
>> screen. For me at least, reading mail is dreadful right now and I really
>> hope it gets fixed soon.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sandy. I would appreciate it. If you could let us know, if it worked
>>> for you.
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email
>>> app
>>>
>>> penny,
>>> I have just done this and hope it will work! Thanks for the tip!
>>> Sandy
>>>
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>>
 On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:30, Penny Reeder  wrote:

 Go to settings.then general, then keyboards. Turn off Slide to type.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:21 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>  Running an iPhone 8 with the latest ios version 13.1.2 and am having
> sever problems with the cursor moving, usually to the top of my email
> inbox list. I am having to use my iPhone 6, luckily, still running
> 12.4
> or whatever it is Is anyone else getting this behaviour? If I open
> an email to read it, then exit, I am placed back at the top of the
> inbox, as my inbox has many, many, messages in it, and I have to trawl
> through hundreds on a daly basis, my 8 has become unusable for mail. I
> have tried a reset settings, but it made no difference.
>
> Help please! Sandy.
>
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Richard Turner]

What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner


> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home button 
> and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first quarter of 
> 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8 body and will 
> feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate that this phone 
> could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for 
> those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might 
> be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell 30,000,000-40,000,000 of 
> these in the first year.
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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Tim Mehok]

If apple really wanted to hit a home run, they would put the new
iPhone SE2  in the same size body as he old iPhone SE.
This move to larger and larger screens is a tremendous waste.
Tim

On 10/9/19, Gordon  wrote:
> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home
> button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first
> quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8
> body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate
> that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig
> version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school
> touch ID, this might be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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Re: The iPhone SE2

[Gerardo Corripio]

Which would be in the range of between mxn6800/mxn8000 which would be perfect! 
Good thing is in May is when I’ll be upgrading phones, and renewing my plan in 
the process. that’s exciting!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2019, a la(s) 3:23 a. m., Gordon  escribió:
> 
> For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home button 
> and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first quarter of 
> 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8 body and will 
> feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate that this phone 
> could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for 
> those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might 
> be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell 30,000,000-40,000,000 of 
> these in the first year.
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Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
Having adjusted the settings and disabled swipe mode in keyboards, I find that 
I am still having to use my iPhone 6 for checking my mail. my iPhone eight, 
running the latest version of iOS, still jumps to the top of the list of emails 
whenever I read a new message or a new message comes in. this makes it 
impossible for me to go through my mail in any reasonable time. I am afraid, it 
is still a bug!
Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 8 Oct 2019, at 18:55, Teresa Christian  wrote:
> 
> I literally was checking my email just before heading out to go to the
> Apple store to get my phone looked at.
> It has been doing really crazy stuff for the past two days.
> After I saw this email, went in to general and keyboards, made the
> change and it seems to be working fine.
> Here are some of the crazy things it was doing; A lot of them I would
> never think would get fixed with just that change.
> cursor bouncing all over the place
> Voice Over shutting down for no apparent reason
> Lots of intrusive messages such as
> Try this and try that
> Suggested this and that messages
> intrusive autofill when typing
> "voice control is not listening" every 3 seconds when I was on the phone
> I think there were more, but I can't remember them all.
> It was super bizarre behavior.
> My daughter and son-in-law are major geeks and can usually fix
> anything strange going on with my phone and they couldn't figure out
> what was going on this time.
> Thank you, you guys, you saved me a very time consuming trip to the Apple 
> Store.
> 
> For the person having trouble reading email.
> I don't usually delete my email the way you described, but I tried it
> to see what you might be talking about.
> I swipe to get to the body of the email, so don't know if you're doing
> the reading part that way.
> Then at the bottom it does only say from left to right, "Archives" and
> "More Actions Available"
> When I tapped on "More actions available" it opened up and then across
> the bottom it did not seem to have delete, but it has several rows of
> a ton of other stuff. I guess you'd have to tap on move to trash or
> junk to get rid of it.
> Has someone else found the delete button?
> Teresa☺
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/8/19, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>> It does not work for me When it comes to reading messages. I’m not sure if
>> you all are talking about reading or composing. Definitely, turning it off
>> helps with composing, but reading is another issue altogether. I spend so
>> much time just looking for the body of a message that it is ridiculous. And
>> in the past, I was able to swipe up to the delete button and just double tap
>> it to delete a message. Now, I cannot do that anymore and sometimes the
>> delete button is nearly impossible to find,  Even at the bottom of the
>> screen. For me at least, reading mail is dreadful right now and I really
>> hope it gets fixed soon.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandy. I would appreciate it. If you could let us know, if it worked
>>> for you.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email
>>> app
>>> 
>>> penny,
>>> I have just done this and hope it will work! Thanks for the tip!
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:30, Penny Reeder  wrote:
 
 Go to settings.then general, then keyboards. Turn off Slide to type.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:21 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Running an iPhone 8 with the latest ios version 13.1.2 and am having
> sever problems with the cursor moving, usually to the top of my email
> inbox list. I am having to use my iPhone 6, luckily, still running 12.4
> or whatever it is Is anyone else getting this behaviour? If I open
> an email to read it, then exit, I am placed back at the top of the
> inbox, as my inbox has many, many, messages in it, and I have to trawl
> through hundreds on a daly basis, my 8 has become unusable for mail. I
> have tried a reset settings, but it made no difference.
> 
> Help please! Sandy.
> 
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
> 
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The iPhone SE2

[Gordon]

For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the home 
button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the first 
quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the iPhone 8 
body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors also indicate 
that this phone could possibly sell for between $349-$399 for the 32 gig 
version. So for those of you looking to upgrade and like the old school 
touch ID, this might be something worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell 
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for an Iphone 8 Battery Case

[Steve Matzura]

It must be pretty darn awesome since you used that word twice. LOL. So, 
what's so double-awesome about it? I'm still trying to figure out why, 
if it's so double-awesome, it got a bad review.


I have a case from a company called Plus Cases. https://pluscases.com It 
does something quite odd sometimes--when I plug it in to charge both the 
phone and the case, instead of charging, it causes the phone to run its 
battery down to totally flat 0 nothing. I know what I'm about to say 
sounds super improbable, but I think if I plug the Lightning connector 
into the case one way, it works correctly, and if I simply turn it over, 
it works the wrong way. I haven't conclusively or incontrovertably 
proved this, but evidence points in that direction. Makes no sense, I 
know, but empirical evidence says otherwise.





On 10/8/2019 4:31 PM, lenron brown wrote:
The apple case probably is not all that, but I am sure people will 
hype it up.


On 10/8/19, Steve Matzura  wrote:

I can't understand why so many people say it's so good, yet on Apple's
Website it has a two-stars rating.


On 10/7/2019 1:39 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

The mophie juice pack is an awesome case, I have not tried the Apple
case so can't comment on that, the Juice Pack is awesome though.
Original message:


Hi. I'm looking for a good battery case for my iPhone 8. I've been
reading reviews and I'm leaning toward either a Mophie Juice Pack or
an Apple Smart case as these two cases seem to offer a huge amount of
battery time for both talk and Internet usage. However, I'm open to
other recommendations as well as any warnings as to why Apple or
Mophie might not be the most ideal choices. I'm currently using a
Supcase Unicorn Beetle which I love as it's reasonably thin and light
and seems to offer decent protection. I don't really want to give up
that case but I do need something that offers an extra battery. I'd
ideally like something thin although I don't think Mophie cases are
known for being all that thin. I'd also like something that can still
use the lightning port.




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Re: Dice World

[Teresa Christian]

This morning I told you guys that my phone was working again. Well, it
is now messed up again so now I am going to the Apple store in the
morning.

Dice World, when my phone is working again I will check the bonuses
like you said.

Teresa☺

On 10/8/19, Mama Peach  wrote:
> This is at the top of the main screen, along with your level progress,
> statistics and metals
>
> From: Robert Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Dice World
>
> Its there. Switch your rotor to virticle you may find it.
>
>
>
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
> learning start?***
>
>
>
> From: Teresa Christian
> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dice World
>
>
>
> I also noticed after the updates the other day everything looks very
> different.
>
> There doesn't seem to be a way to check how much gold you have, but I
>
> still get notices that I am receiving gold.
>
> Does anyone know what is going on?
>
> Teresa☺
>
>
>
> Dice World Username, SynergyDragon
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/8/19, Louise Johnson  wrote:
>
>> I have the eight plus phone. Louise and princess Kiara
>
>> Hi I also having after playing for gold sometimes the app will close. I
>> am
>
>> not updated my phone to 13. I have seen that I not getting bonus gold of
>> 10
>
>> after the update of dice word.
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>> Of Cook, Steve
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>> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:24 AM
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>> Subject: Dice World
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>> Hi All,
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>> Before anyone says let the developer know, I already have. LOL
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>> Using the current version of Dice World on an iPhone XR running version
>> 12.
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>> Wanted to check to see if anyone else is having the below issues.
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>> After watching a video the app crashes and I have to open the app again.
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>> The rematch does not show up when you loose a game.
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>> How do you advance to the next game after watching a video if the app dos
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>> not crash?
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>> User name Steve6009
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>> Steve Cook, CPM
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