Re: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Christina]

Hi Mark,

I know Two different people who have used the Churp app and they both said it 
was accessible. This was a few months ago, and I haven’t personally tried the 
Churp app as I haven’t found a book I want to purchase yet.

HTH,
Christina


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 1:38 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.  
> 
> I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found
> to be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this
> service, then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over
> Drive.  
> 
> There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for
> iOS in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.  
> 
> Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver
> to download and listen to purchased titles?  
> 
> Mark
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RE: ITunes Backups

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
Encrypted back-ups on iTunes include native  message app messages. iCloud 
back-ups also include messages if selected. Since iOS 12, messages are not 
selected by default. This must be selected via Settings, Apple ID, iCloud and 
insure messages is enabled.

Should there be any errors on iPhone or iOS device for that matter in the 
future, you can connect device to a computer that has  been used with the 
device if back-up has been performed on computer.

Feliciano

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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RE: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
Amazon Basics Lightning cables are also great. From my experience with these 
cables, the newer model has a fat connector that does not allow connection when 
an OtterBox defender case is being used. I used to like these cables until they 
updated them with the fatter connector. Anker cables do not have this issue. 
Just one thing to be aware of when purchasing if you have a case protector.

Feliciano 

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

The Amazon Basics Lightning cables are also very good.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

Hi,
Consider purchasing a certified Apple charging cable for your phone as it seems 
like your current cable is on its way out. I personally like the anker brand. 
These can be had on online, Amazon or your local Walmart.

Feliciano
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> On Oct 13, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Sieghard , I have followed our steps and plugged in the iPhone.
> It had been plugged in since 10:00 last night after it had shut off 
> due to low battery, and by 4:30 this afternoon it had only charged to 
> 79%.
> 
> I think there may be something wrong with my lightning cord as well, 
> but it seems to be charging now.
> 
>> On 10/11/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Close all apps in the app switcher, then go to Settings > General > 
>> Reset and select to Reset Network Settings.
>> After the phone reboots you have to rejoin your WiFi including 
>> entering your password and if your phone was called something like 
>> Donald's iPhone you have to go to Settings > General > About and 
>> rename it. After a Reset Network Settings the name is simply reset to 
>> "iPhone".
>> Often doing this can have a very positive effect.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>> 
>> Battery health says it is at about 87%.
>> 
>> No navigation apps open as far as I can tell from the app switcher.
>> 
>>> On 10/11/19, Dave  wrote:
>>> have you checked your battery health?
>>> 
>>> Also, check, if you have any navigation apps, open in your app 
>>> switcher, which might be using up your battery.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Donald Raikes
>>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 4:39 PM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have noticed in the two weeks since I upgraded my iPhone 8 to iOS
>>> 13.1.2 tghat my battery life is significantly shorter.  As in from a 
>>> 100% charge with hte phone just sitting on my desk not plugged in 
>>> and when I am not using it for anything, the battery drains to 50% 
>>> within a couple of hours.
>>> 
>>> If I am listening to an audio book, it can go to 0% within 3-4 hours.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else noticed this issue, and is there any way to help 
>>> preserve battery life?
>>> 
>>> I will be travelling in a few weeks and I need my phone to be 
>>> working at its best then.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donald
>>> 
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RE: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Amazon Basics Lightning cables are also very good.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

Hi,
Consider purchasing a certified Apple charging cable for your phone as it seems 
like your current cable is on its way out. I personally like the anker brand. 
These can be had on online, Amazon or your local Walmart.

Feliciano
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> On Oct 13, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Sieghard , I have followed our steps and plugged in the iPhone.
> It had been plugged in since 10:00 last night after it had shut off 
> due to low battery, and by 4:30 this afternoon it had only charged to 
> 79%.
> 
> I think there may be something wrong with my lightning cord as well, 
> but it seems to be charging now.
> 
>> On 10/11/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Close all apps in the app switcher, then go to Settings > General > 
>> Reset and select to Reset Network Settings.
>> After the phone reboots you have to rejoin your WiFi including 
>> entering your password and if your phone was called something like 
>> Donald's iPhone you have to go to Settings > General > About and 
>> rename it. After a Reset Network Settings the name is simply reset to 
>> "iPhone".
>> Often doing this can have a very positive effect.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>> 
>> Battery health says it is at about 87%.
>> 
>> No navigation apps open as far as I can tell from the app switcher.
>> 
>>> On 10/11/19, Dave  wrote:
>>> have you checked your battery health?
>>> 
>>> Also, check, if you have any navigation apps, open in your app 
>>> switcher, which might be using up your battery.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Donald Raikes
>>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 4:39 PM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have noticed in the two weeks since I upgraded my iPhone 8 to iOS
>>> 13.1.2 tghat my battery life is significantly shorter.  As in from a 
>>> 100% charge with hte phone just sitting on my desk not plugged in 
>>> and when I am not using it for anything, the battery drains to 50% 
>>> within a couple of hours.
>>> 
>>> If I am listening to an audio book, it can go to 0% within 3-4 hours.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else noticed this issue, and is there any way to help 
>>> preserve battery life?
>>> 
>>> I will be travelling in a few weeks and I need my phone to be 
>>> working at its best then.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donald
>>> 
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RE: ITunes Backups

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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RE: ABC groups App for sending group text or emails

[Richard Turner]

Yes, you give it access to your Contacts.
You create your various groups in the app.
Then, you open the app, pick your group, pick whether you want to Text or 
Email, write your message, and hit send.
There are more steps along the way, but it is pretty easy to figure out.

HTH,
Richard


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ABC groups App for sending group text or emails

How does it work, the ABD app? Do  you access it, when wanting to send group 
messages or emails? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 8:02 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: ABC groups App for sending group text or emails

Here is the app description from the app store: Followed by the App Store link 
"ABC Groups" is the powerful all-in-one contact management app for your iPhone, 
iPad, & iPod.  With "ABC Groups," you can easily access & edit your contacts 
and groups.  Save time by sending text messages & emails to groups.  "ABC 
Groups" can do it all with an impressive suite of features as you can see 
below! CONTACTS:  • View all of your contacts regardless of whether they were 
created in iCloud, CardDAV, Facebook, Exchange, your mobile device, or any 
other type of contact account • Easily find a contact with ABC's powerful 
search tool & the ability to filter by groups • Quickly perform a number of 
functions with one touch directly from the contact card GROUPS:  • Create 
contact groups containing any type of contact including Exchange Server & 
Facebook contacts • Select to show contacts from one or more groups at the same 
time • Add & remove contacts from a particular group • Add & remove groups from 
a particular contact FAVORITES:  • Create a list of favorites allowing you to 
quickly call/message/email those contacts GROUP EMAILS & MESSAGES:  • Send 
messages to groups via iMessage & SMS • Attach photos & documents, including 
from Dropbox • Assign the to/cc/bcc email field to each contact individually • 
Give your message a personal touch - Automatically refer to each contact by 
name COMPANIES, BIRTHDAYS, ANNIVERSARIES, RECENTLY CREATED & MODIFIED, MOST 
VIEWED CONTACTS: • Sort your contacts by company name • View upcoming birthdays 
& anniversaries • View recently created & modified contacts • View your most 
frequently viewed contacts SHARE CONTACTS: • Share one or more contacts via 
text message, email, or various other services DELETE CONTACTS & GROUPS: • 
Quickly delete contacts & groups BACKUP: • Create a backup of any contact 
account • Restore your backup to any contact account CLONE CONTACTS & GROUPS: • 
Clone a contact from the contact card screen including all contact fields & 
groups • Clone a group so you don't have to add all of the group members 
manually START SCREEN: • Specify whether the app should load the contacts, 
groups, or favorites screen at startup SHORTCUTS: • Press & hold a contact or 
group to conveniently perform a number of common functions MULTIPLE CONTACT 
ACCOUNTS: • Selectively view the contacts belonging to each contact account  • 
Linked contacts are automatically merged into a single contact card SYNC 
CONTACTS WITH GOOGLE: • Fully compatible with the "Contacts Sync For Google 
Gmail" app so that you can sync your iPhone/iPad contact changes to Gmail WORKS 
WELL WITH OTHER CONTACT APPS: • Any contact changes you make with this app will 
be reflected in any other contact app that queries the iPhone address book 
(including the standard Contacts & Phone app) COMPATIBILITY:  • Compatible with 
iPhone, iPad, iPod, iOS 10, iOS 11, iOS 12 LANGUAGES: • Translated into 
English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, & Russian SUBSCRIPTIONS: • ABC 
Groups offers a "Premium" subscription which removes advertisements. • The 
"Premium" subscription is priced at $0.99 USD and the subscription length is 1 
year • Payment will be charged to iTunes Account at confirmation of purchase • 
Subscription automatically renews unless auto-renew is turned off at least 
24-hours before the end of the current period • Account will be charged for 
renewal within 24-hours prior to the end of the current period, at a cost of 
$0.99 USD • Subscriptions may be managed by the user and auto-renewal may be 
turned off by going to the user's Account Settings after purchase • Any unused 
portion of a free trial period, if offered, will be forfeited when the user 
purchases a subscription to that publication, where applicable • Terms of use: 

Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
Consider purchasing a certified Apple charging cable for your phone as it seems 
like your current cable is on its way out. I personally like the anker brand. 
These can be had on online, Amazon or your local Walmart.

Feliciano
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> On Oct 13, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Sieghard , I have followed our steps and plugged in the iPhone.
> It had been plugged in since 10:00 last night after it had shut off
> due to low battery, and by 4:30 this afternoon it had only charged to
> 79%.
> 
> I think there may be something wrong with my lightning cord as well,
> but it seems to be charging now.
> 
>> On 10/11/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Close all apps in the app switcher, then go to Settings > General > Reset
>> and select to Reset Network Settings.
>> After the phone reboots you have to rejoin your WiFi including entering your
>> password and if your phone was called something like Donald's iPhone you
>> have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it. After a Reset
>> Network Settings the name is simply reset to "iPhone".
>> Often doing this can have a very positive effect.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>> 
>> Battery health says it is at about 87%.
>> 
>> No navigation apps open as far as I can tell from the app switcher.
>> 
>>> On 10/11/19, Dave  wrote:
>>> have you checked your battery health?
>>> 
>>> Also, check, if you have any navigation apps, open in your app
>>> switcher, which might be using up your battery.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Donald Raikes
>>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 4:39 PM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have noticed in the two weeks since I upgraded my iPhone 8 to iOS
>>> 13.1.2 tghat my battery life is significantly shorter.  As in from a
>>> 100% charge with hte phone just sitting on my desk not plugged in and
>>> when I am not using it for anything, the battery drains to 50% within
>>> a couple of hours.
>>> 
>>> If I am listening to an audio book, it can go to 0% within 3-4 hours.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else noticed this issue, and is there any way to help
>>> preserve battery life?
>>> 
>>> I will be travelling in a few weeks and I need my phone to be working
>>> at its best then.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donald
>>> 
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Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

[Donald Raikes]

I am using the wall adapter that came with the phone, and a
third-party lightning cable.  I can switch to a different lightning
cable, I think.

On 10/13/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> There is definitely something wrong, it should never take this long to
> charge an iPhone. Are you using the wall adapter that came with the phone or
> a third-party adapter?
> Lightning cables can of course also go bad.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Donald Raikes
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>
> Thanks Sieghard , I have followed our steps and plugged in the iPhone.
> It had been plugged in since 10:00 last night after it had shut off due to
> low battery, and by 4:30 this afternoon it had only charged to 79%.
>
> I think there may be something wrong with my lightning cord as well, but it
> seems to be charging now.
>
> On 10/11/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Close all apps in the app switcher, then go to Settings > General >
>> Reset and select to Reset Network Settings.
>> After the phone reboots you have to rejoin your WiFi including
>> entering your password and if your phone was called something like
>> Donald's iPhone you have to go to Settings > General > About and
>> rename it. After a Reset Network Settings the name is simply reset to
>> "iPhone".
>> Often doing this can have a very positive effect.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>>
>> Battery health says it is at about 87%.
>>
>> No navigation apps open as far as I can tell from the app switcher.
>>
>> On 10/11/19, Dave  wrote:
>>> have you checked your battery health?
>>>
>>> Also, check, if you have any navigation apps, open in your app
>>> switcher, which might be using up your battery.
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Donald Raikes
>>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 4:39 PM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have noticed in the two weeks since I upgraded my iPhone 8 to iOS
>>> 13.1.2 tghat my battery life is significantly shorter.  As in from a
>>> 100% charge with hte phone just sitting on my desk not plugged in and
>>> when I am not using it for anything, the battery drains to 50% within
>>> a couple of hours.
>>>
>>> If I am listening to an audio book, it can go to 0% within 3-4 hours.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else noticed this issue, and is there any way to help
>>> preserve battery life?
>>>
>>> I will be travelling in a few weeks and I need my phone to be working
>>> at its best then.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donald
>>>
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RE: ABC groups App for sending group text or emails

[Carolyn Arnold]

How does it work, the ABD app? Do  you access it, when wanting to send group 
messages or emails? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 8:02 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: ABC groups App for sending group text or emails

Here is the app description from the app store: Followed by the App Store link 
"ABC Groups" is the powerful all-in-one contact management app for your iPhone, 
iPad, & iPod.  With "ABC Groups," you can easily access & edit your contacts 
and groups.  Save time by sending text messages & emails to groups.  "ABC 
Groups" can do it all with an impressive suite of features as you can see 
below! CONTACTS:  • View all of your contacts regardless of whether they were 
created in iCloud, CardDAV, Facebook, Exchange, your mobile device, or any 
other type of contact account • Easily find a contact with ABC's powerful 
search tool & the ability to filter by groups • Quickly perform a number of 
functions with one touch directly from the contact card GROUPS:  • Create 
contact groups containing any type of contact including Exchange Server & 
Facebook contacts • Select to show contacts from one or more groups at the same 
time • Add & remove contacts from a particular group • Add & remove groups from 
a particular contact FAVORITES:  • Create a list of favorites allowing you to 
quickly call/message/email those contacts GROUP EMAILS & MESSAGES:  • Send 
messages to groups via iMessage & SMS • Attach photos & documents, including 
from Dropbox • Assign the to/cc/bcc email field to each contact individually • 
Give your message a personal touch - Automatically refer to each contact by 
name COMPANIES, BIRTHDAYS, ANNIVERSARIES, RECENTLY CREATED & MODIFIED, MOST 
VIEWED CONTACTS: • Sort your contacts by company name • View upcoming birthdays 
& anniversaries • View recently created & modified contacts • View your most 
frequently viewed contacts SHARE CONTACTS: • Share one or more contacts via 
text message, email, or various other services DELETE CONTACTS & GROUPS: • 
Quickly delete contacts & groups BACKUP: • Create a backup of any contact 
account • Restore your backup to any contact account CLONE CONTACTS & GROUPS: • 
Clone a contact from the contact card screen including all contact fields & 
groups • Clone a group so you don't have to add all of the group members 
manually START SCREEN: • Specify whether the app should load the contacts, 
groups, or favorites screen at startup SHORTCUTS: • Press & hold a contact or 
group to conveniently perform a number of common functions MULTIPLE CONTACT 
ACCOUNTS: • Selectively view the contacts belonging to each contact account  • 
Linked contacts are automatically merged into a single contact card SYNC 
CONTACTS WITH GOOGLE: • Fully compatible with the "Contacts Sync For Google 
Gmail" app so that you can sync your iPhone/iPad contact changes to Gmail WORKS 
WELL WITH OTHER CONTACT APPS: • Any contact changes you make with this app will 
be reflected in any other contact app that queries the iPhone address book 
(including the standard Contacts & Phone app) COMPATIBILITY:  • Compatible with 
iPhone, iPad, iPod, iOS 10, iOS 11, iOS 12 LANGUAGES: • Translated into 
English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, & Russian SUBSCRIPTIONS: • ABC 
Groups offers a "Premium" subscription which removes advertisements. • The 
"Premium" subscription is priced at $0.99 USD and the subscription length is 1 
year • Payment will be charged to iTunes Account at confirmation of purchase • 
Subscription automatically renews unless auto-renew is turned off at least 
24-hours before the end of the current period • Account will be charged for 
renewal within 24-hours prior to the end of the current period, at a cost of 
$0.99 USD • Subscriptions may be managed by the user and auto-renewal may be 
turned off by going to the user's Account Settings after purchase • Any unused 
portion of a free trial period, if offered, will be forfeited when the user 
purchases a subscription to that publication, where applicable • Terms of use: 
https://playaapps.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003030954 • Privacy Policy: 
https://playaapps.zendesk.com/hc/articles/229824667



https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714


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ABC groups App for sending group text or emails

[Richard Turner]

Here is the app description from the app store: Followed by the App Store link
"ABC Groups" is the powerful all-in-one contact management app for your iPhone, 
iPad, & iPod.  With "ABC Groups," you can easily access & edit your contacts 
and groups.  Save time by sending text messages & emails to groups.  "ABC 
Groups" can do it all with an impressive suite of features as you can see 
below! CONTACTS:  • View all of your contacts regardless of whether they were 
created in iCloud, CardDAV, Facebook, Exchange, your mobile device, or any 
other type of contact account • Easily find a contact with ABC's powerful 
search tool & the ability to filter by groups • Quickly perform a number of 
functions with one touch directly from the contact card GROUPS:  • Create 
contact groups containing any type of contact including Exchange Server & 
Facebook contacts • Select to show contacts from one or more groups at the same 
time • Add & remove contacts from a particular group • Add & remove groups from 
a particular contact FAVORITES:  • Create a list of favorites allowing you to 
quickly call/message/email those contacts GROUP EMAILS & MESSAGES:  • Send 
messages to groups via iMessage & SMS • Attach photos & documents, including 
from Dropbox • Assign the to/cc/bcc email field to each contact individually • 
Give your message a personal touch - Automatically refer to each contact by 
name COMPANIES, BIRTHDAYS, ANNIVERSARIES, RECENTLY CREATED & MODIFIED, MOST 
VIEWED CONTACTS: • Sort your contacts by company name • View upcoming birthdays 
& anniversaries • View recently created & modified contacts • View your most 
frequently viewed contacts SHARE CONTACTS: • Share one or more contacts via 
text message, email, or various other services DELETE CONTACTS & GROUPS: • 
Quickly delete contacts & groups BACKUP: • Create a backup of any contact 
account • Restore your backup to any contact account CLONE CONTACTS & GROUPS: • 
Clone a contact from the contact card screen including all contact fields & 
groups • Clone a group so you don't have to add all of the group members 
manually START SCREEN: • Specify whether the app should load the contacts, 
groups, or favorites screen at startup SHORTCUTS: • Press & hold a contact or 
group to conveniently perform a number of common functions MULTIPLE CONTACT 
ACCOUNTS: • Selectively view the contacts belonging to each contact account  • 
Linked contacts are automatically merged into a single contact card SYNC 
CONTACTS WITH GOOGLE: • Fully compatible with the "Contacts Sync For Google 
Gmail" app so that you can sync your iPhone/iPad contact changes to Gmail WORKS 
WELL WITH OTHER CONTACT APPS: • Any contact changes you make with this app will 
be reflected in any other contact app that queries the iPhone address book 
(including the standard Contacts & Phone app) COMPATIBILITY:  • Compatible with 
iPhone, iPad, iPod, iOS 10, iOS 11, iOS 12 LANGUAGES: • Translated into 
English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, & Russian SUBSCRIPTIONS: • ABC 
Groups offers a "Premium" subscription which removes advertisements. • The 
"Premium" subscription is priced at $0.99 USD and the subscription length is 1 
year • Payment will be charged to iTunes Account at confirmation of purchase • 
Subscription automatically renews unless auto-renew is turned off at least 
24-hours before the end of the current period • Account will be charged for 
renewal within 24-hours prior to the end of the current period, at a cost of 
$0.99 USD • Subscriptions may be managed by the user and auto-renewal may be 
turned off by going to the user's Account Settings after purchase • Any unused 
portion of a free trial period, if offered, will be forfeited when the user 
purchases a subscription to that publication, where applicable • Terms of use: 
https://playaapps.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003030954 • Privacy Policy: 
https://playaapps.zendesk.com/hc/articles/229824667


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Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Richard Turner]

ABC groups can do either text messages or emails.
I use it for emails, but it works fine for text messages.
I always first think of emails unless people say specifically Text Messages. 
That's because I'm old, or at least that's my excuse.
HTH,




Richard
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On Oct 14, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:


I know that- but want to have a group saved to send text messages on a 
recurring basis. This is what the link was describing.

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

Cher, if you wish to send a text message to multiple persons all you need to do 
is flick over to “add contact”, find your contact’s phone number and double 
tap. You keep adding like this until you have every you wish to have the 
message.

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?***

From: Cher Bosch
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

I have been talking about text messaging- not email. I’m not sure I 
communicated that very well- esp. as you mentioned email in your reply.

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

No, I find iCloud to be utterly frustrating.

ABC Groups is fairly easy to use and while you have to do your Email from 
within the app, it works quite well.

Later,
Richard


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

Thanks for the suggestion. I found the Groups app in a search- but, of course, 
accessibility was not mentioned. Have you also tried creating a group in 
iCloud.com as the article suggestioned? Since the iCloud control panel is not 
very friendly, I questioned whether iCloud.com was any better.

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom
Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.
I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.
Fully accessible.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714



Richard
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On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/

Cher
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom
Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.

Cher


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RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Cher Bosch]

I know that- but want to have a group saved to send text messages on a 
recurring basis. This is what the link was describing.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

Cher, if you wish to send a text message to multiple persons all you need to do 
is flick over to “add contact”, find your contact’s phone number and double 
tap. You keep adding like this until you have every you wish to have the 
message. 

 

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

 

From: Cher Bosch  
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

I have been talking about text messaging- not email. I’m not sure I 
communicated that very well- esp. as you mentioned email in your reply.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

No, I find iCloud to be utterly frustrating.

 

ABC Groups is fairly easy to use and while you have to do your Email from 
within the app, it works quite well.

 

Later,

Richard

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:   www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I found the Groups app in a search- but, of course, 
accessibility was not mentioned. Have you also tried creating a group in 
iCloud.com as the article suggestioned? Since the iCloud control panel is not 
very friendly, I questioned whether iCloud.com was any better.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 6:29 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroupscom
Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.

I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.

Fully accessible.

 

 

 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch <  
oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:

 

 

 https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/

 

Cher 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:26 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroupscom
Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.

 

Cher

 

 

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Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
> have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
> understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Anna Dresner 
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system 
>> to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
>> older operating system.
>> 
>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
>> Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and 
>> make sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 
>> 24 hours or so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. 
>> There's also a Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any 
>> time.
>> 
>> Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. 
>> It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
>>> II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond 
>>> IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.
>>>  
>>> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
>>> and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
>>>  
>>> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
>>> older phone?
>>>  
>>> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
>>>  
>>> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
>>> trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not 
>>> certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I 
>>> currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older 
>>> phone. 
>>>  
>>> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
>>> older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. 
>>> How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
>>> phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the 
>>> phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.
>>>  
>>> Hope this all makes sense.
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
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Re: odd screen behavior within an app

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

they have actually and so far from the developer, crickets.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 09:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: odd screen behavior within an app

My first step would be to contact the developer.

It sounds like maybe they need to update for iOS 13.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

 

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From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: odd screen behavior within an app

 

As a point of reference, this is occurring on an updated 8 plus with a bit over 
240 gig of storage and only one app in focus and active at a time. Now, if any 
of you have played with the Vorail app, you know that driving that app around 
involves allot of up and down swiping. However, very recently, the app does not 
respond to up and down swipes. The app will play audio from the user defined 
landing point such as the users inbox but it will go no further meaning you can 
not access the rest of the app and the only option is to close the app. More on 
that in a moment. As far as I am aware, I made no obvious changes to the Vorail 
settings. Here’s where it got strange. I’d heard a bit of talk about an app 
called Dabel. I decided to put it on the phone and kick the tires a bit and 
that’s when Vorail went wonky. Just to be clear, I do not believe the 2 are 
connected because when I removed Dabel, the problem with Vorail continued. A 
number of removal and reinstall attempts did not clear up the Vorail screen 
issue and closing the Vorail app through the app switcher has often been a bit 
hit and miss. So much so that on a number of occasions, I’ve had to power off 
the phone and restart it to be able to close Vorail from within the app 
switcher. Has anyone seen this? What would cause this? Might there be a fix? 
Thanks folks.


Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups


  Hi Vicki,


  You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system 
to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.


  I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.


  Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. 
It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.


  Best,
  Anna








On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 
12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
older phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How 
is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, 
but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki



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RE: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message when using the iPhone email app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Or with the rotor on "Actions", swipe down until you get to "Expand Thread", 
this will expand the thread into individual emails.
By the way, Richard, for me using iOS 13.1.2 the messages rotor works just fine 
although the one thing I find in general in iOS 13 is that you often have to 
turn the rotor back to a setting which you think would stick. One example is 
reading a table in an email. I get order confirmation emails from one of my 
suppliers where the items I ordered are listed in a table. Once I get to the 
table I can turn the rotor counter clockwise once and land on "Rows", then if I 
am, for example, on the description column I can flick down and Voiceover goes 
down the table by row but it stays in the description column. This is quite 
nice as I can quickly flick down through the table to hear the descriptions of 
the items. However, if I flick right to get to the information about Quantity 
Ordered and Quantity Shipped and the price and then I flick left again back to 
description I first have to turn the rotor back to Rows because as soon as I 
flick right once it looses the "Rows" rotor setting and I think it should stay 
on it until I am done reading my table. I find this quite annoying in a number 
of situations.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message 
when using the iPhone email app

Thanks very much.  I didn't know that.  It might help if I knew the correct 
procedure to read threaded messages lol.  I'll give it a try and let you all 
know what happens.  I love this list as you can really get some help with your 
iPhone issues.

On 10/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> You turn the rotor until it says messages, then swipe down with one finger.
> That should put you in the next message.
> Repeat until you get through all the messages.
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> Richard
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 7:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads 
> per message when using the iPhone email app
>
> Richard.  I don't know what is supposed to happen when reading a 
> multiple threaded message with the iPhone email app.  Do I need to 
> turn off a setting.  Thanks for some clarification.
>
> On 10/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> it is strange that you are having a problem in iOS 12.
>> I turned off threading because of the issues in iOS 13.
>> You could try the Outlook app as Devin suggested if threading is 
>> important to you.
>> I don't use the Outlook app, so cannot say if it is better.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it."
>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
>> Jane Wagner
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all.  I know this was discussed, but I thought I'd ask here.  
>> I don't usually use my iPhone to read emails, but I sometimes do, if 
>> like yesterday my computer was switched off and I didn't feel like 
>> turning it on for a bit.  I have seen several messages from this list 
>> that have several messages after one message is read by my phone.  I 
>> can hear the first message just fine, but if I have say 7 oor 8 more 
>> messages to read, I have to keep flicking and swiping to get to the 
>> next message in the list.  This is rather annoying.  On my computer 
>> if I have multiple message in an email message, I can use the letter 
>> h for heading and get from message to message very quickly.  I hope 
>> there is a fix for this slight issue.  I'm not running the latest 
>> version of IOS just 12.41.  Thanks.
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>
>> Joshua Hendrickson
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RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

After doing a bit of research it would seem that AudioBooks.com is very much 
mimicking what obviously has been successful for Audible. They offer a $14.95 a 
month subscription which gives you 1 credit just as with Audible. One review 
which is a few years old mentioned that you can buy additional credits for the 
same price and they felt that was a big benefit.
However, if you are a big listener you can get a 2-credit plan from Audible for 
$22.95 a month which is less than $1150 per book and if you decide to purchase 
this plan all at once, i.e. instead of paying $22.95 a month for 12 month which 
equals $275.40, you can pay for 24 credits all at once and I believe that price 
is then discounted to $229.99 which is approx. $9.58 per credit or book and 
that of course is a much better deal.
Another thing which wasn't mentioned in this review are the specials Audible 
members get. First there is the daily deal emails you can sign up for where you 
get an offer every day to buy the book offered for between $3.95 and $5.95. Of 
course there may be a week or 2 or even 3 where the book offered aren't what 
you want, but I generally find at least 1 a month and sometimes 2, so even if 
you subscribe to the one book plan from Audible for $14.95 and buy one more 
book each month from the daily deal promotion for $5 you are in my opinion 
better off.
Then there are all the other promotions where every month or two you get a 
chance to either buy 2 books for 1 credit or you get a list of a few hundred 
books where all the titles again are only $4.95 or $5.95.
F
Furthermore, if you use up your monthly credit or if you let 2 or 3 credits 
accumulate and then use them all up at once, 
Audible has been offering members to buy 3 additional credits for essentially 
the same price as your membership credits.
And lastly, there is the selection which is probably one of the most important 
aspects of an audio book service. At the time of the review AudioBooks.com 
apparently had 100,000 titles, I think now they claim they have 150,000 titles 
and they also mention you have access to over 700,000 Podcasts, but of course I 
don't need to pay for an audio book service to access Podcasts. AudioBooks.com 
apparently also offers free access to books which are in the public domain 
whereas Audible often offers such books for purchase, but then they are often 
new and high quality recordings and the price is usually not too high. In any 
case, there again are many other sources for public domain books for free and I 
must say at times I have purchased a public domain book from Audible because it 
was read/performed so well. Audible Canada says their library contains 
currently over 300,000 titles and in addition to offering many commercially 
produced audio books, Audible is also a big content provider themselves, their 
"Audible Frontiers" services produces many audio books and all in all I find 
Audible to offer the most comprehensive service and I feel I get a pretty good 
value for what I spend there.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello list
While on this topic I notice that there is an audiobooks.com service in the 
sonos controler under ad music service. Does anyone know about this service and 
if so, what is the subscription and is it worth while?
Regards
Fanus


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mich Verrier
Sent: Sunday, 13 October 2019 23:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Mark. I know the e mail that you are talking about chirp and also the 
books that they offer. I should point out that this seems to be only for people 
who live in the US and so if people live out side of the US like in Canada I am 
ot shure if you are able to pay for the books or not. I have not used the app 
but do get the news letter. I also feel that wile the books and stuff are good 
discounts it would be nice if they were offerd in Canadion as well since wile 
they might be a good discount in USD not so in CAD. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: October 13, 2019 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Everyone,

There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.  

I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found to 
be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this service, 
then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over Drive.  

There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for iOS 
in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.  

Question, has anyone ever actually used the 

Re: finding all apps with location tracking enabled

[Feliciano Godoy]

Go to settings, privacy, location services. There you will have the apps that 
have requested for your location. You can choose from never, while using or 
always.

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> On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> In an effort to reduce the drain on my iPhone's battery, i am
> wondering if there is a way to identify all apps that have location
> tracking enabled and disable those that really don't need it enabled?
> 
> Short of going through every app on my phone and checking individually :-)
> 
> Obviously things like SoundScape and maps need location tracking but I
> don't know that much else actually needs it enabled.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Donald
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RE: Strange Notification

[Don Moore]

A robo-caller.  DON’T DO IT!!!
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Notification
 
The past couple of days, when I pick up the phone, I am getting a notification 
asking me to verify my phone number. The number given is not the right one. I 
assume this is some sort of scam, so I have been ignoring it. Anybody else have 
this?
 
Susie
 
 
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Strange Notification

[Susie Stageberg]

The past couple of days, when I pick up the phone, I am getting a
notification asking me to verify my phone number. The number given is not
the right one. I assume this is some sort of scam, so I have been ignoring
it. Anybody else have this?

 

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Re: finding all apps with location tracking enabled

[Donald Raikes]

While I didn't find the exact answer to this question for others
wishing to reset location tracking, do the following:

1. goto settings -> general -> reset.
2. tap the reset location and privacy button.
you will be prompted to enter your password.
Once you enter your password you will be asked to confirm that you
want to reset the location and privacy settings tap the button and all
location tracking is turned off.

Then when you access an app that can use location tracking you will be
prompted to enable it again.

Hope this helps others.

On 10/14/19, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> In an effort to reduce the drain on my iPhone's battery, i am
> wondering if there is a way to identify all apps that have location
> tracking enabled and disable those that really don't need it enabled?
>
> Short of going through every app on my phone and checking individually :-)
>
> Obviously things like SoundScape and maps need location tracking but I
> don't know that much else actually needs it enabled.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Donald
>

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RE: need an Apple number

[Don Moore]

1-800-myapple) 1-800-6927753.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:16 PM
To: IPhone
Subject: need an Apple number
 
Does anyone have a number for Apple where I can report a possible scam or hack? 
I got three e-mails stating I subscribed to Pandora, which I didn't, and I need 
to double check my account and or report a scam.
 
Thanks.
 
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need an Apple number

[Vicki W.]

Does anyone have a number for Apple where I can report a possible scam or hack? 
I got three e-mails stating I subscribed to Pandora, which I didn't, and I need 
to double check my account and or report a scam.

Thanks.

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finding all apps with location tracking enabled

[Donald Raikes]

In an effort to reduce the drain on my iPhone's battery, i am
wondering if there is a way to identify all apps that have location
tracking enabled and disable those that really don't need it enabled?

Short of going through every app on my phone and checking individually :-)

Obviously things like SoundScape and maps need location tracking but I
don't know that much else actually needs it enabled.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message when using the iPhone email app

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm a little confused about the topic here. Are we talking about reading 
a thread with multiple messages in it? A message with multiple threads 
it in doesn't make any sense to me.



In addition to what Richard suggests below, when in the list of threads, 
you can flick up or down until you hear expand messages in thread and 
then you'll be able to flick from message to message in that thread.



On 10/14/19 10:11 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Thanks very much.  I didn't know that.  It might help if I knew the
correct procedure to read threaded messages lol.  I'll give it a try
and let you all know what happens.  I love this list as you can really
get some help with your iPhone issues.

On 10/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

You turn the rotor until it says messages, then swipe down with one finger.
That should put you in the next message.
Repeat until you get through all the messages.

HTH,
Richard


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per
message when using the iPhone email app

Richard.  I don't know what is supposed to happen when reading a multiple
threaded message with the iPhone email app.  Do I need to turn off a
setting.  Thanks for some clarification.

On 10/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

it is strange that you are having a problem in iOS 12.
I turned off threading because of the issues in iOS 13.
You could try the Outlook app as Devin suggested if threading is
important to you.
I don't use the Outlook app, so cannot say if it is better.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane Wagner


On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
wrote:

Hi to all.  I know this was discussed, but I thought I'd ask here.  I
don't usually use my iPhone to read emails, but I sometimes do, if
like yesterday my computer was switched off and I didn't feel like
turning it on for a bit.  I have seen several messages from this list
that have several messages after one message is read by my phone.  I
can hear the first message just fine, but if I have say 7 oor 8 more
messages to read, I have to keep flicking and swiping to get to the
next message in the list.  This is rather annoying.  On my computer if
I have multiple message in an email message, I can use the letter h
for heading and get from message to message very quickly.  I hope
there is a fix for this slight issue.  I'm not running the latest
version of IOS just 12.41.  Thanks.
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Shirley Baker]

These are very good instructions. Just tried it and it worked.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2019, at 4:49 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cher, if you wish to send a text message to multiple persons all you need to 
> do is flick over to “add contact”, find your contact’s phone number and 
> double tap. You keep adding like this until you have every you wish to have 
> the message.
>  
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
> learning start?*** 
>  
> From: Cher Bosch
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients
>  
> I have been talking about text messaging- not email. I’m not sure I 
> communicated that very well- esp. as you mentioned email in your reply.
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 12:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients
>  
> No, I find iCloud to be utterly frustrating.
>  
> ABC Groups is fairly easy to use and while you have to do your Email from 
> within the app, it works quite well.
>  
> Later,
> Richard
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
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>  
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
> Bosch
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients
>  
> Thanks for the suggestion. I found the Groups app in a search- but, of 
> course, accessibility was not mentioned. Have you also tried creating a group 
> in iCloud.com as the article suggestioned? Since the iCloud control panel is 
> not very friendly, I questioned whether iCloud.com was any better.
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 6:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroupscom
> Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients
>  
> i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.
> I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.
> Fully accessible.
>  
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
>  
> 
> On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
> 
> 
> For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
> section- and listed as a heading Level 2:
>  
> https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/
>  
> Cher
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
> Bosch
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroupscom
> Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients
>  
> Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
> recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
> send messages to an entire group of recipients.
>  
> Cher
>  
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Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message when using the iPhone email app

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Thanks very much.  I didn't know that.  It might help if I knew the
correct procedure to read threaded messages lol.  I'll give it a try
and let you all know what happens.  I love this list as you can really
get some help with your iPhone issues.

On 10/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> You turn the rotor until it says messages, then swipe down with one finger.
> That should put you in the next message.
> Repeat until you get through all the messages.
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> Richard
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 7:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per
> message when using the iPhone email app
>
> Richard.  I don't know what is supposed to happen when reading a multiple
> threaded message with the iPhone email app.  Do I need to turn off a
> setting.  Thanks for some clarification.
>
> On 10/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> it is strange that you are having a problem in iOS 12.
>> I turned off threading because of the issues in iOS 13.
>> You could try the Outlook app as Devin suggested if threading is
>> important to you.
>> I don't use the Outlook app, so cannot say if it is better.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>> with it."
>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
>> Jane Wagner
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all.  I know this was discussed, but I thought I'd ask here.  I
>> don't usually use my iPhone to read emails, but I sometimes do, if
>> like yesterday my computer was switched off and I didn't feel like
>> turning it on for a bit.  I have seen several messages from this list
>> that have several messages after one message is read by my phone.  I
>> can hear the first message just fine, but if I have say 7 oor 8 more
>> messages to read, I have to keep flicking and swiping to get to the
>> next message in the list.  This is rather annoying.  On my computer if
>> I have multiple message in an email message, I can use the letter h
>> for heading and get from message to message very quickly.  I hope
>> there is a fix for this slight issue.  I'm not running the latest
>> version of IOS just 12.41.  Thanks.
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>
>> Joshua Hendrickson
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RE: Scribd Library app

[Gerardo Corripio]

I use it mostly for audiobooks. I’ve no idea how text-based books work.Lookfor 
the book in audio instead. Good luck! 


  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

De: Beth G
Enviado: domingo, 13 de octubre de 2019 06:26 p. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Scribd Library app

Hello All,

I’ve been trying the trial version of this app. I can see books, and read the 
first page, but I’m not sure how to navigate beyond this. Has anyone use this 
app and had good luck with it? How do I read a book with it?

Thanks,


Beth

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RE: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message when using the iPhone email app

[Richard Turner]

You turn the rotor until it says messages, then swipe down with one finger.
That should put you in the next message.
Repeat until you get through all the messages.

HTH,
Richard


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-Original Message-
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Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 7:53 AM
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Subject: Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message 
when using the iPhone email app

Richard.  I don't know what is supposed to happen when reading a multiple 
threaded message with the iPhone email app.  Do I need to turn off a setting.  
Thanks for some clarification.

On 10/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> it is strange that you are having a problem in iOS 12.
> I turned off threading because of the issues in iOS 13.
> You could try the Outlook app as Devin suggested if threading is 
> important to you.
> I don't use the Outlook app, so cannot say if it is better.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
> Jane Wagner
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> Hi to all.  I know this was discussed, but I thought I'd ask here.  I 
> don't usually use my iPhone to read emails, but I sometimes do, if 
> like yesterday my computer was switched off and I didn't feel like 
> turning it on for a bit.  I have seen several messages from this list 
> that have several messages after one message is read by my phone.  I 
> can hear the first message just fine, but if I have say 7 oor 8 more 
> messages to read, I have to keep flicking and swiping to get to the 
> next message in the list.  This is rather annoying.  On my computer if 
> I have multiple message in an email message, I can use the letter h 
> for heading and get from message to message very quickly.  I hope 
> there is a fix for this slight issue.  I'm not running the latest 
> version of IOS just 12.41.  Thanks.
> Joshua Hendrickson
>
> Joshua Hendrickson
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Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message when using the iPhone email app

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Richard.  I don't know what is supposed to happen when reading a
multiple threaded message with the iPhone email app.  Do I need to
turn off a setting.  Thanks for some clarification.

On 10/14/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> it is strange that you are having a problem in iOS 12.
> I turned off threading because of the issues in iOS 13.
> You could try the Outlook app as Devin suggested if threading is important
> to you.
> I don't use the Outlook app, so cannot say if it is better.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> Hi to all.  I know this was discussed, but I thought I'd ask here.  I
> don't usually use my iPhone to read emails, but I sometimes do, if
> like yesterday my computer was switched off and I didn't feel like
> turning it on for a bit.  I have seen several messages from this list
> that have several messages after one message is read by my phone.  I
> can hear the first message just fine, but if I have say 7 oor 8 more
> messages to read, I have to keep flicking and swiping to get to the
> next message in the list.  This is rather annoying.  On my computer if
> I have multiple message in an email message, I can use the letter h
> for heading and get from message to message very quickly.  I hope
> there is a fix for this slight issue.  I'm not running the latest
> version of IOS just 12.41.  Thanks.
> Joshua Hendrickson
>
> Joshua Hendrickson
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Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message when using the iPhone email app

[Richard Turner]

it is strange that you are having a problem in iOS 12.
I turned off threading because of the issues in iOS 13.
You could try the Outlook app as Devin suggested if threading is important to 
you.
I don't use the Outlook app, so cannot say if it is better.




Richard
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On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Hi to all.  I know this was discussed, but I thought I'd ask here.  I
don't usually use my iPhone to read emails, but I sometimes do, if
like yesterday my computer was switched off and I didn't feel like
turning it on for a bit.  I have seen several messages from this list
that have several messages after one message is read by my phone.  I
can hear the first message just fine, but if I have say 7 oor 8 more
messages to read, I have to keep flicking and swiping to get to the
next message in the list.  This is rather annoying.  On my computer if
I have multiple message in an email message, I can use the letter h
for heading and get from message to message very quickly.  I hope
there is a fix for this slight issue.  I'm not running the latest
version of IOS just 12.41.  Thanks.
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message when using the iPhone email app

[Devin Prater]

Try the Outlook app. Its thread handling is a bit more stable for now.

> On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  I know this was discussed, but I thought I'd ask here.  I
> don't usually use my iPhone to read emails, but I sometimes do, if
> like yesterday my computer was switched off and I didn't feel like
> turning it on for a bit.  I have seen several messages from this list
> that have several messages after one message is read by my phone.  I
> can hear the first message just fine, but if I have say 7 oor 8 more
> messages to read, I have to keep flicking and swiping to get to the
> next message in the list.  This is rather annoying.  On my computer if
> I have multiple message in an email message, I can use the letter h
> for heading and get from message to message very quickly.  I hope
> there is a fix for this slight issue.  I'm not running the latest
> version of IOS just 12.41.  Thanks.
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
> Joshua Hendrickson
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I have a quick question about reading multiple threads per message when using the iPhone email app

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I know this was discussed, but I thought I'd ask here.  I
don't usually use my iPhone to read emails, but I sometimes do, if
like yesterday my computer was switched off and I didn't feel like
turning it on for a bit.  I have seen several messages from this list
that have several messages after one message is read by my phone.  I
can hear the first message just fine, but if I have say 7 oor 8 more
messages to read, I have to keep flicking and swiping to get to the
next message in the list.  This is rather annoying.  On my computer if
I have multiple message in an email message, I can use the letter h
for heading and get from message to message very quickly.  I hope
there is a fix for this slight issue.  I'm not running the latest
version of IOS just 12.41.  Thanks.
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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RE: odd screen behavior within an app

[Richard Turner]

My first step would be to contact the developer.
It sounds like maybe they need to update for iOS 13.

HTH,


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From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: odd screen behavior within an app

As a point of reference, this is occurring on an updated 8 plus with a bit over 
240 gig of storage and only one app in focus and active at a time. Now, if any 
of you have played with the Vorail app, you know that driving that app around 
involves allot of up and down swiping. However, very recently, the app does not 
respond to up and down swipes. The app will play audio from the user defined 
landing point such as the users inbox but it will go no further meaning you can 
not access the rest of the app and the only option is to close the app. More on 
that in a moment. As far as I am aware, I made no obvious changes to the Vorail 
settings. Here’s where it got strange. I’d heard a bit of talk about an app 
called Dabel. I decided to put it on the phone and kick the tires a bit and 
that’s when Vorail went wonky. Just to be clear, I do not believe the 2 are 
connected because when I removed Dabel, the problem with Vorail continued. A 
number of removal and reinstall attempts did not clear up the Vorail screen 
issue and closing the Vorail app through the app switcher has often been a bit 
hit and miss. So much so that on a number of occasions, I’ve had to power off 
the phone and restart it to be able to close Vorail from within the app 
switcher. Has anyone seen this? What would cause this? Might there be a fix? 
Thanks folks.

Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA
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odd screen behavior within an app

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

As a point of reference, this is occurring on an updated 8 plus with a bit over 
240 gig of storage and only one app in focus and active at a time. Now, if any 
of you have played with the Vorail app, you know that driving that app around 
involves allot of up and down swiping. However, very recently, the app does not 
respond to up and down swipes. The app will play audio from the user defined 
landing point such as the users inbox but it will go no further meaning you can 
not access the rest of the app and the only option is to close the app. More on 
that in a moment. As far as I am aware, I made no obvious changes to the Vorail 
settings. Here’s where it got strange. I’d heard a bit of talk about an app 
called Dabel. I decided to put it on the phone and kick the tires a bit and 
that’s when Vorail went wonky. Just to be clear, I do not believe the 2 are 
connected because when I removed Dabel, the problem with Vorail continued. A 
number of removal and reinstall attempts did not clear up the Vorail screen 
issue and closing the Vorail app through the app switcher has often been a bit 
hit and miss. So much so that on a number of occasions, I’ve had to power off 
the phone and restart it to be able to close Vorail from within the app 
switcher. Has anyone seen this? What would cause this? Might there be a fix? 
Thanks folks.

Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA

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RE: ITunes Backups

[Robert Wright]

Vicki,the main difference between backing up to iTunes and backing up to iCloud 
is that when backing up to iCloud you can set up a new device from any wi-fi. 
Whereas, with iTunes you must be at your PC.

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:54 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.
 
First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
 
Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?
 
Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
 
The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 
 
I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.
 
Hope this all makes sense.
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 

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RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Robert Wright]

Cher, if you wish to send a text message to multiple persons all you need to do 
is flick over to “add contact”, find your contact’s phone number and double 
tap. You keep adding like this until you have every you wish to have the 
message. 

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

From: Cher Bosch
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

I have been talking about text messaging- not email. I’m not sure I 
communicated that very well- esp. as you mentioned email in your reply.

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

No, I find iCloud to be utterly frustrating.

ABC Groups is fairly easy to use and while you have to do your Email from 
within the app, it works quite well.

Later,
Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

Thanks for the suggestion. I found the Groups app in a search- but, of course, 
accessibility was not mentioned. Have you also tried creating a group in 
iCloud.com as the article suggestioned? Since the iCloud control panel is not 
very friendly, I questioned whether iCloud.com was any better.

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom
Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.
I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.
Fully accessible.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714 



Richard
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On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
 
For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:
 
https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/
 
Cher 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom
Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients
 
Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.
 
Cher
 
 
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RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
While on this topic I notice that there is an audiobooks.com service in the 
sonos controler under ad music service. Does anyone know about this service and 
if so, what is the subscription and is it worth while?
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mich Verrier
Sent: Sunday, 13 October 2019 23:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Mark. I know the e mail that you are talking about chirp and also the 
books that they offer. I should point out that this seems to be only for people 
who live in the US and so if people live out side of the US like in Canada I am 
ot shure if you are able to pay for the books or not. I have not used the app 
but do get the news letter. I also feel that wile the books and stuff are good 
discounts it would be nice if they were offerd in Canadion as well since wile 
they might be a good discount in USD not so in CAD. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: October 13, 2019 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Everyone,

There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.  

I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found
to be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this
service, then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over
Drive.  

There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for
iOS in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.  

Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver
to download and listen to purchased titles?  

Mark

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