Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
> have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
> understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:[email protected]>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system 
>> to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
>> older operating system.
>> 
>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
>> Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and 
>> make sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 
>> 24 hours or so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. 
>> There's also a Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any 
>> time.
>> 
>> Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. 
>> It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
>>> II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond 
>>> IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.
>>>  
>>> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
>>> and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
>>>  
>>> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
>>> older phone?
>>>  
>>> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
>>>  
>>> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
>>> trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not 
>>> certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I 
>>> currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older 
>>> phone. 
>>>  
>>> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
>>> older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. 
>>> How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
>>> phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the 
>>> phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.
>>>  
>>> Hope this all makes sense.
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>> 
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