RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Actually this is now not true,

The pods do switch automatically 
This has been problematic but is now working 

Although isn't perfect it is working now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 1:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth 
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this so I 
am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a Voyager 
Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple Watch, I can 
be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece and as soon as I 
do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to my watch, once I 
stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched 
between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods cost 
about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided yet which 
model I am going to buy.
Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There 
> are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound 
> very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
> $60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of 
> wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
> Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check 
> sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
> Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound 
> like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable 
> speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really 
> like it.
>
> On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> And the original poster should also take into consideration that 
>> Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features 
>> which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if 
>> you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular 
>> Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite 
>> the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still 
>> believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until 
>> they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
>> between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Sorry yes,
>> My mistake,
>>
>> I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to 
>> your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
>> mentioned.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of chalt...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want 
>> the Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked 
>> if you can use them while they're in the charging case, and the 
>> answer is no you cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while 
>> they're in the charging case, and when you place the Airpods in the 
>> charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>>> differences are between the versions
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods 
>>> are what you are thinking of I believe.
>>>
>>> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the 
>>> old wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
>>>
>>> Now they 

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

I can confirm that the seamless switching back and forth is working between 
devices and the series 2 pods,

 Just not all the time or correctly as quickly as we might need.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple 
apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you may or 
may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that there 
might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of course that is 
just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular 
or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not 
until they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear 
canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the Airpod 
Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can use them 
while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you cannot. You cannot 
place them in your ear while they're in the charging case, and when you place 
the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are 
> what you are thinking of I believe.
> 
> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old 
> wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
> 
> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a 
> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more 
> you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one 
> place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just by 
> sitting flat on the pad.
> 
> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to 
> pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And 
> they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to 
> have an ear free for other things.
> 
> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be 
> best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the 
> newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the 
> lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth 
> way.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hello list,
> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
> airpods, the more I consider buying them.
> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple 
> wired ear buds.
> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
> confortable for me.
> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with 
> Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with 
> Iphone XR, so I cannot compare.
> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
> I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I 
> would like to avoid buying wrong model.
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
> 
> On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last 
> > time I
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without 
> the cables, so there's no noise 

RE: Question re Apple Home Pod

[Simon A Fogarty]

Although if you have the echo devices and the older sonos play 1 etc series of 
sonos speakers then amazons echos don’t seem mto work with them,

Lthe new sonos 1 and newer models have alexa built in which helps a lot.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re Apple Home Pod

No point in spending lots of money for a Homepod for this, you can buy an 
Amazon Echo Dot or any other Amazon echo speaker for this.
The Dot costs $54.99 in Canada and it's currently on sale for $49.99, but you 
can get it often for even less if there are larger sale events like Prime Day 
which I believe is coming up, Black Friday etc.
I have Sonos speakers all over the house and if I want, for example, to play a 
particular song or artist on my stereo set of Play 5 speakers in the bedroom, I 
just tell any of my Amazon Echo speakers in the hous to play that song or 
artist followed by "on Bedroom Sonos".
My default music source on the Echo is set to Apple Music, Alexa will say 
"playing such and such from Apple Music on bedroom Sonos" and the music will 
then start playing.
If I am playing anentire artist or album, I can then tell the Echo to turn the 
volume up or down, skip the currently playing song etc.
Of course if you have speakers like the One where you can enable either Alexa 
or the Google Assistant, you don't even need another Echo speaker. We have 
stereo pairs of Sonos One speakers in our bathroom, the kitchen and in my 
woodworking shop and here I can just say "Alexa, play such and such" and since 
Alexa lives on that Sonos speaker it will play my request and I don't have to 
tell it "on bathroom Sonos" or "on kitchen Sonos".

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re Apple Home Pod

No. HomePods have nothing to do with Sonos speakers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 1, 2020, at 4:02 PM, magpie...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Is there a way to control the Sonos speakers with the Home Pod? For example. 
Can I ask the HP to play something on the Sonos speakers? I have several of the 
Sonos speakers and love them and it would justify the high price of the Home 
Pod if this function was available.
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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look / feel as 
what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or iPod.

 They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear canal.

They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless charging case 
or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable to charge.

The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex insert that 
goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a tighter fitting pod but not 
everyones feel,
The pros have a noise cancelling feature and a button thing on the side to give 
what's called transparency mode that lets you hear outside noise without taking 
the pods out.

Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired charging .
Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours playing and the 
other 4.5 hours 
Both forms of case give up to 24 hours of charging time 

So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of them in 
your ears, and what you wish to pay.

The pros are to get some updates to firmware along with the Ios 14 
 Update that will give them the features of 5.1 
7.1
And dolby atmos audio  which is what you get from stand alone speakers 

I'm not sure but I believe the series 2 standard pods will get these updates as 
well, but may be not to the same extent.

The other thing to look at / think about are the beats pods,
Such as the power beats and the power beats pro,

 Larger in size,
Cheaper in price and for the power beats pro I think just as good a sound 
quality as the series 2 pods,
There are volume and play / pause and next / back track controls on the power 
beats pro pods and I believe on the power beats but on a wire that goes around 
your neck between the two pods,

Hooks over the ears to hold them on / in your ears,
 And they have the latex insert to the ear canal like the apple airpods pro 

My suggestion would be to look on the apple website and have a look at what 
they say about the 4 design / models and then if possible go to an apple store 
to have a look at samples of them that you can perhaps try out with real life 
situations


I hope this has been of some help and you can find something you like.

I've got both the series 2 airpods and the power beats pro pods, and although I 
prefer the airpods because of the size and portability I do use the power beats 
pro constantly for when I'm out and about.

Good luck. 

 -Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Priscilla Garces (prisci)
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi,
I have the same question about EarPods too. I would like to know what the 
difference is between the regular and pro version.
My iphone doesn’t support the standard 3.5 headphones anymore, and only my iPad 
does at the moment.
I intend to use them for zoom conferences, and when i go out, if i do anyway 
because of this pandemic.

Thank yo, and hope all is well,

Priscilla



Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences between the 
> versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Marie]

The Air pods are shaped exactly like the wired buds which come with the 
iPhone just without the wires. Great sound and comfortable fit. I just won't 
try any further buds which go into the ear canal. And the price is as much 
as the Air pods. Thanks for the great description and I know what good 
products they have.




Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


I do not exactly know as I've never bought the apple airpods and do
not intend to.  This set of awesome anker earbuds that I found on
amazon this morning get up to 8 hours of playtime on a single charge,
have usb C charging, as well as wireless charging of the earbud case.
They are around $150, but they seem totally worth it to me.  I saw
many reviews on amazon saying how comfortable they were to wear and
how you get a lot of different ear tips to try out.  I think even with
small ears, they would work.  Anker, has awesome customer service.  I
called them a lot in the past couple days and they always answered my
questions and they were very good at explaining something if I didn't
understand.  You also get an 18 month warranty on any anker product
that you buy.  I do intend on getting them when I save up some money.
These earbuds even work with the soundcore app which has some very
cool EQ settings.

On 7/2/20, Marie  wrote:

I have two Plantronics Edge headsets and have praised them a lot. But with
both, after a few months I find them occasionally dropping the connection 
or


they sometimes switch to the second device for, say a phone call, and then
do not switch back to the first device. This worked flawlessly in the
beginning. And if using on my laptop, the lag is so bad, I just can't
tolerate it.



Marie
-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
differences


are between the versions

Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this
so I am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have 
a


Voyager Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple
Watch, I can be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece
and as soon as I do something on my watch the book stops and it switches 
to


my watch, once I stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mária


Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
differences


are between the versions

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly 
switched


between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods
cost about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided
yet which model I am going to buy.
Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that
Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features
which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if
you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular
Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite
the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still
believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until
they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth
between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting 

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I do not exactly know as I've never bought the apple airpods and do
not intend to.  This set of awesome anker earbuds that I found on
amazon this morning get up to 8 hours of playtime on a single charge,
have usb C charging, as well as wireless charging of the earbud case.
They are around $150, but they seem totally worth it to me.  I saw
many reviews on amazon saying how comfortable they were to wear and
how you get a lot of different ear tips to try out.  I think even with
small ears, they would work.  Anker, has awesome customer service.  I
called them a lot in the past couple days and they always answered my
questions and they were very good at explaining something if I didn't
understand.  You also get an 18 month warranty on any anker product
that you buy.  I do intend on getting them when I save up some money.
These earbuds even work with the soundcore app which has some very
cool EQ settings.

On 7/2/20, Marie  wrote:
> I have two Plantronics Edge headsets and have praised them a lot. But with
> both, after a few months I find them occasionally dropping the connection or
>
> they sometimes switch to the second device for, say a phone call, and then
> do not switch back to the first device. This worked flawlessly in the
> beginning. And if using on my laptop, the lag is so bad, I just can't
> tolerate it.
>
>
>
> Marie
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
>
> are between the versions
>
> Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and
> instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
> They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth
> earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this
> so I am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a
>
> Voyager Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple
> Watch, I can be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece
> and as soon as I do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to
>
> my watch, once I stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária
>
> Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
>
> are between the versions
>
> Hi Sieghard and all,
> Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched
>
> between my Iphone and Apple watch.
> When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods
> cost about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided
> yet which model I am going to buy.
> Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
> Thanks in advance.
> Maria
>
> On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
>> are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
>> very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
>> $60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
>> wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
>> Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
>> sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
>> Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
>> like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
>> speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
>> like it.
>>
>> On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> And the original poster should also take into consideration that
>>> Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features
>>> which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if
>>> you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular
>>> Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite
>>> the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still
>>> believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until
>>> they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth
>>> between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>>> differences are between the versions
>>>
>>> Sorry yes,
>>> My mistake,
>>>
>>> I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to
>>> your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you
>>>
>>> mentioned.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Marie]

I have two Plantronics Edge headsets and have praised them a lot. But with 
both, after a few months I find them occasionally dropping the connection or 
they sometimes switch to the second device for, say a phone call, and then 
do not switch back to the first device. This worked flawlessly in the 
beginning. And if using on my laptop, the lag is so bad, I just can't 
tolerate it.




Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth 
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this 
so I am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a 
Voyager Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple 
Watch, I can be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece 
and as soon as I do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to 
my watch, once I stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched 
between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods 
cost about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided 
yet which model I am going to buy.

Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that
Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features
which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if
you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular
Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite
the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still
believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until
they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
between your iPhone and Apple Watch.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to
your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
mentioned.


Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want
the Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked
if you can use them while they're in the charging case, and the
answer is no you cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while
they're in the charging case, and when you place the Airpods in the
charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods
are what you are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the
old wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods

Now they come in a little flip top case 

Re: Thinking of getting air pods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Marie]

Do any of the Anker ear buds fit like the air pods? I have small ear canals 
and have never found ear buds which do not make them somewhat sore after a 
while. It is one of the things I love about the Apple wired buds or the air 
buds. I can wear them all day with no discomfort.

I have used and do like the Anker products.


Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple
apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you 
may

or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that
there might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of 
course

that is just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the
Airpods, regular or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth 
the
price especially not until they figure out how they seamlessly and 
instantly

switch back and forth between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Simon

A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
differences

are between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your 
ear
canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
mentioned.


Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
differences

are between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the
Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you 
can

use them while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you
cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while they're in the charging
case, and when you place the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth
connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are
what you are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old
wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods

Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a
standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more
you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one
place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just
by sitting flat on the pad.

My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to
pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And
they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to
have an ear free for other things.

Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be
best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the
newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the
lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods
Bluetooth way.

Hope this helps.

Simon f

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hello list,
First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about
airpods, the more I consider buying them.
However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple
wired ear buds.
I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not
confortable for me.
Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds 

Re: Question re Apple Home Pod

[Marie]

Yes I am well aware since I have several Alexa devices. But it would be 
preferable to me to be able to use the Home Pod instead. I do not like the 
Alexa app and would rather have things like contact, calendars, phone calls  
etc. kept on my Apple devices.
Personal preference!

Marie

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Question re Apple Home Pod

No point in spending lots of money for a Homepod for this, you can buy an 
Amazon Echo Dot or any other Amazon echo speaker for this. 

The Dot costs $54.99 in Canada and it's currently on sale for $49.99, but you 
can get it often for even less if there are larger sale events like Prime Day 
which I believe is coming up, Black Friday etc.

I have Sonos speakers all over the house and if I want, for example, to play a 
particular song or artist on my stereo set of Play 5 speakers in the bedroom, I 
just tell any of my Amazon Echo speakers in the hous to play that song or 
artist followed by "on Bedroom Sonos". 

My default music source on the Echo is set to Apple Music, Alexa will say 
"playing such and such from Apple Music on bedroom Sonos" and the music will 
then start playing.

If I am playing anentire artist or album, I can then tell the Echo to turn the 
volume up or down, skip the currently playing song etc.

Of course if you have speakers like the One where you can enable either Alexa 
or the Google Assistant, you don't even need another Echo speaker. We have 
stereo pairs of Sonos One speakers in our bathroom, the kitchen and in my 
woodworking shop and here I can just say "Alexa, play such and such" and since 
Alexa lives on that Sonos speaker it will play my request and I don't have to 
tell it "on bathroom Sonos" or "on kitchen Sonos".

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re Apple Home Pod

 

No. HomePods have nothing to do with Sonos speakers.

 

Sent from my iPhone





  On Jul 1, 2020, at 4:02 PM, magpie...@gmail.com wrote:

  

  Is there a way to control the Sonos speakers with the Home Pod? For example. 
Can I ask the HP to play something on the Sonos speakers? I have several of the 
Sonos speakers and love them and it would justify the high price of the Home 
Pod if this function was available.   

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RE: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

[Richard Turner]

I do indeed.
If you need something durable that can be collapsed and reassembled often, it 
is excellent.
If you want something to always be in one place, the Scanner bin from Amazon is 
also quite good and that person did a special video for blind users for putting 
it together.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

Do you recommend this stand?

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 02, 2020 09:02 AM
Subject: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

I had written the NFB Independence Market a while back checking into the 
availability of the Fopydo Scanning Stand, and I just received the below 
information for anyone who is interested in this stand, which is quite durable 
and portable.



Thank you for contacting the National Federation of the Blind Independence 
Market.



We are now able to take and process phone orders again.



We do sell the Fopydo scanning stand as follows:



FOPYDO KNFB READER SCANNING STAND:

This is a very handy accessory for anyone who uses the KNFB Reader or other OCR 
app on a smart phone or other device. If you plan to scan multiple pages in one 
reading session or have trouble holding the phone steady, a scanning stand 
becomes very helpful, as you can rest the device on the stand. The lightweight 
Fopydo KNFB Reader scanning stand is very portable and easy to assemble. Its 11 
inch height is ideal for reading 8 1/2 × 11 inch documents, but the height can 
be adjusted to accommodate the scanning of larger format items. The stand is 
made of corrugated plastic with fold-out metal legs which can be extended to 
vary the height. The shelf features a notch to make it easy to line up the 
device camera and a sticky strip to keep the device in place. The shelf is even 
sturdy enough to accommodate an iPad Mini. When collapsed, the stand measures 
11 3/4 × 9 1/2 × 1/4 inches.



AIA41K $15.00



If you would like to place an order, please call us at (410) 659-9314, 
extension 2216.











Richard

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himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I've never once regretted extending it..)" - Edward Herbert



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Re: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

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Do you recommend this stand?- Original Message -From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 02, 2020 09:02 AMSubject: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFBI had written the NFB Independence Market a while back checking into the availability of the Fopydo Scanning Stand, and I just received the below information for anyone who is interested in this stand, which is quite durable and portable. Thank you for contacting the National Federation of the Blind Independence Market. We are now able to take and process phone orders again. We do sell the Fopydo scanning stand as follows: FOPYDO KNFB READER SCANNING STAND: This is a very handy accessory for anyone who uses the KNFB Reader or other OCR app on a smart phone or other device. If you plan to scan multiple pages in one reading session or have trouble holding the phone steady, a scanning stand becomes very helpful, as you can rest the device on the stand. The lightweight Fopydo KNFB Reader scanning stand is very portable and easy to assemble. Its 11 inch height is ideal for reading 8 1/2 × 11 inch documents, but the height can be adjusted to accommodate the scanning of larger format items. The stand is made of corrugated plastic with fold-out metal legs which can be extended to vary the height. The shelf features a notch to make it easy to line up the device camera and a sticky strip to keep the device in place. The shelf is even sturdy enough to accommodate an iPad Mini. When collapsed, the stand measures 11 3/4 × 9 1/2 × 1/4 inches.   AIA41K $15.00 If you would like to place an order, please call us at (410) 659-9314, extension 2216. Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it..)" - Edward Herbert -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB198146CF1A368D435DB33016B76D0%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.



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RE: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
If you place the phone with the camera just beyond the small half-circle  in 
the cutout at the front edge of the shelf, the camera should be pointing at the 
center of your document.
Making sure of course that the document is even with the back wall of the stand 
between the feet.
You could even put the camera a little beyond that half-circle but not too much 
beyond.
If you are using Voice Dream Scanner, you could just have the flash on, or turn 
it off and let it use the room lighting.
Too much light can be as much of a problem as not enough.

I hope that explanation helps.

If not let me know.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

Hi Richard,
I bought this stand, but somehow I am not able to use it efficiently. I get 
better scanning results just by holding the phone and snapping photos of the 
pages I need scanned. I am not sure what the problem is, may be the stand is 
blocking the flash from lighting over the page correctly, or may be I need some 
extra lighting.
Having had a lot of experience with it, what do you recommend for the most 
efficient use of it?

Regards,


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

I had written the NFB Independence Market a while back checking into the 
availability of the Fopydo Scanning Stand, and I just received the below 
information for anyone who is interested in this stand, which is quite durable 
and portable.

Thank you for contacting the National Federation of the Blind Independence 
Market.

We are now able to take and process phone orders again.

We do sell the Fopydo scanning stand as follows:

FOPYDO KNFB READER SCANNING STAND:
This is a very handy accessory for anyone who uses the KNFB Reader or other OCR 
app on a smart phone or other device. If you plan to scan multiple pages in one 
reading session or have trouble holding the phone steady, a scanning stand 
becomes very helpful, as you can rest the device on the stand. The lightweight 
Fopydo KNFB Reader scanning stand is very portable and easy to assemble. Its 11 
inch height is ideal for reading 8 1/2 × 11 inch documents, but the height can 
be adjusted to accommodate the scanning of larger format items. The stand is 
made of corrugated plastic with fold-out metal legs which can be extended to 
vary the height. The shelf features a notch to make it easy to line up the 
device camera and a sticky strip to keep the device in place. The shelf is even 
sturdy enough to accommodate an iPad Mini. When collapsed, the stand measures 
11 3/4 × 9 1/2 × 1/4 inches.

AIA41K $15.00

If you would like to place an order, please call us at (410) 659-9314, 
extension 2216.





Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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RE: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

[Cris Ali]

Hi Richard,
I bought this stand, but somehow I am not able to use it efficiently. I get 
better scanning results just by holding the phone and snapping photos of the 
pages I need scanned. I am not sure what the problem is, may be the stand is 
blocking the flash from lighting over the page correctly, or may be I need some 
extra lighting.
Having had a lot of experience with it, what do you recommend for the most 
efficient use of it?

Regards,

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

I had written the NFB Independence Market a while back checking into the 
availability of the Fopydo Scanning Stand, and I just received the below 
information for anyone who is interested in this stand, which is quite durable 
and portable.

Thank you for contacting the National Federation of the Blind Independence 
Market.

We are now able to take and process phone orders again.

We do sell the Fopydo scanning stand as follows:

FOPYDO KNFB READER SCANNING STAND:
This is a very handy accessory for anyone who uses the KNFB Reader or other OCR 
app on a smart phone or other device. If you plan to scan multiple pages in one 
reading session or have trouble holding the phone steady, a scanning stand 
becomes very helpful, as you can rest the device on the stand. The lightweight 
Fopydo KNFB Reader scanning stand is very portable and easy to assemble. Its 11 
inch height is ideal for reading 8 1/2 × 11 inch documents, but the height can 
be adjusted to accommodate the scanning of larger format items. The stand is 
made of corrugated plastic with fold-out metal legs which can be extended to 
vary the height. The shelf features a notch to make it easy to line up the 
device camera and a sticky strip to keep the device in place. The shelf is even 
sturdy enough to accommodate an iPad Mini. When collapsed, the stand measures 
11 3/4 × 9 1/2 × 1/4 inches.

AIA41K $15.00

If you would like to place an order, please call us at (410) 659-9314, 
extension 2216.





Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hmmm, I am confused now.
Some people say that airpods switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between Iphone and apple watch, some say they don't.

I certainly do not want to buy something that wil not work for me.
Voyager edge seems to be the headset with the features I need, but I am 
afraid it is not available here.

Please, would you mind me asking the price you got it for?
Thanks.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:45, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth 
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this so I 
am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a Voyager 
Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple Watch, I can 
be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece and as soon as I 
do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to my watch, once I 
stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched 
between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods cost 
about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided yet which 
model I am going to buy.
Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that
Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features
which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if
you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular
Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite
the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still
believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until
they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth between 
your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to
your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want
the Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked
if you can use them while they're in the charging case, and the
answer is no you cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while
they're in the charging case, and when you place the Airpods in the
charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods
are what you are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the
old wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods

Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a
standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly
more you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you
have one place it 

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth 
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this so I 
am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a Voyager 
Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple Watch, I can 
be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece and as soon as I 
do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to my watch, once I 
stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched 
between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods cost 
about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided yet which 
model I am going to buy.
Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There 
> are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound 
> very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
> $60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of 
> wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
> Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check 
> sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
> Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound 
> like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable 
> speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really 
> like it.
>
> On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> And the original poster should also take into consideration that 
>> Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features 
>> which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if 
>> you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular 
>> Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite 
>> the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still 
>> believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until 
>> they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
>> between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Sorry yes,
>> My mistake,
>>
>> I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to 
>> your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
>> mentioned.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of chalt...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want 
>> the Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked 
>> if you can use them while they're in the charging case, and the 
>> answer is no you cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while 
>> they're in the charging case, and when you place the Airpods in the 
>> charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>>> differences are between the versions
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods 
>>> are what you are thinking of I believe.
>>>
>>> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the 
>>> old wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
>>>
>>> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a 
>>> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly 
>>> more you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you 
>>> have one place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / 
>>> airpods charge just by sitting flat on the pad.
>>>
>>> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to 
>>> pair with 

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly 
switched between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the 
airpods cost about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to 
not decided yet which model I am going to buy.

Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple
apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you may
or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that
there might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of course
that is just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the
Airpods, regular or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth the
price especially not until they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly
switch back and forth between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
are between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear
canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
are between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the
Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can
use them while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you
cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while they're in the charging
case, and when you place the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth
connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are
what you are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old
wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods

Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a
standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more
you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one
place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just
by sitting flat on the pad.

My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to
pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And
they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to
have an ear free for other things.

Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be
best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the
newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the
lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods
Bluetooth way.

Hope this helps.

Simon f

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hello list,
First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about
airpods, the more I consider buying them.
However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple
wired ear buds.
I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not
confortable for me.
Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with
Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
Honestly, I've not 

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple
> apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you may
> or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that
> there might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of course
> that is just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the
> Airpods, regular or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth the
> price especially not until they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly
> switch back and forth between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
> are between the versions
>
> Sorry yes,
> My mistake,
>
> I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear
> canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> chalt...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
> are between the versions
>
> I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the
> Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can
> use them while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you
> cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while they're in the charging
> case, and when you place the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth
> connection is shutdown.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are
>> what you are thinking of I believe.
>>
>> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old
>> wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
>>
>> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a
>> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more
>> you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one
>> place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just
>> by sitting flat on the pad.
>>
>> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to
>> pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And
>> they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to
>> have an ear free for other things.
>>
>> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be
>> best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the
>> newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the
>> lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods
>> Bluetooth way.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Simon f
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mária Orovcíková
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Hello list,
>> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about
>> airpods, the more I consider buying them.
>> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple
>> wired ear buds.
>> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not
>> confortable for me.
>> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with
>> Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
>> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with
>> Iphone XR, so I cannot compare.
>> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
>> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
>> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
>> 

Fopydo Scanning Stand from Independence Market NFB

[Richard Turner]

I had written the NFB Independence Market a while back checking into the 
availability of the Fopydo Scanning Stand, and I just received the below 
information for anyone who is interested in this stand, which is quite durable 
and portable.

Thank you for contacting the National Federation of the Blind Independence 
Market.

We are now able to take and process phone orders again.

We do sell the Fopydo scanning stand as follows:

FOPYDO KNFB READER SCANNING STAND:
This is a very handy accessory for anyone who uses the KNFB Reader or other OCR 
app on a smart phone or other device. If you plan to scan multiple pages in one 
reading session or have trouble holding the phone steady, a scanning stand 
becomes very helpful, as you can rest the device on the stand. The lightweight 
Fopydo KNFB Reader scanning stand is very portable and easy to assemble. Its 11 
inch height is ideal for reading 8 1/2 × 11 inch documents, but the height can 
be adjusted to accommodate the scanning of larger format items. The stand is 
made of corrugated plastic with fold-out metal legs which can be extended to 
vary the height. The shelf features a notch to make it easy to line up the 
device camera and a sticky strip to keep the device in place. The shelf is even 
sturdy enough to accommodate an iPad Mini. When collapsed, the stand measures 
11 3/4 × 9 1/2 × 1/4 inches.

AIA41K $15.00

If you would like to place an order, please call us at (410) 659-9314, 
extension 2216.





Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple 
apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you may or 
may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that there 
might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of course that is 
just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular 
or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not 
until they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear 
canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the Airpod 
Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can use them 
while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you cannot. You cannot 
place them in your ear while they're in the charging case, and when you place 
the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are 
> what you are thinking of I believe.
> 
> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old 
> wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
> 
> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a 
> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more 
> you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one 
> place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just by 
> sitting flat on the pad.
> 
> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to 
> pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And 
> they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to 
> have an ear free for other things.
> 
> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be 
> best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the 
> newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the 
> lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth 
> way.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hello list,
> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
> airpods, the more I consider buying them.
> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple 
> wired ear buds.
> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
> confortable for me.
> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with 
> Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with 
> Iphone XR, so I cannot compare.
> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
> I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I 
> would like to avoid buying wrong model.
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
> 
> On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last 
> > time I
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without 
> the cables, so there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The 
> Airpod Pros have the silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have 
> passive noise cancellation.
> They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a transparency 
> mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the microphones and 
> transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from 
> this list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it.
> I 

RE: Question re Apple Home Pod

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No point in spending lots of money for a Homepod for this, you can buy an 
Amazon Echo Dot or any other Amazon echo speaker for this.
The Dot costs $54.99 in Canada and it's currently on sale for $49.99, but you 
can get it often for even less if there are larger sale events like Prime Day 
which I believe is coming up, Black Friday etc.
I have Sonos speakers all over the house and if I want, for example, to play a 
particular song or artist on my stereo set of Play 5 speakers in the bedroom, I 
just tell any of my Amazon Echo speakers in the hous to play that song or 
artist followed by "on Bedroom Sonos".
My default music source on the Echo is set to Apple Music, Alexa will say 
"playing such and such from Apple Music on bedroom Sonos" and the music will 
then start playing.
If I am playing anentire artist or album, I can then tell the Echo to turn the 
volume up or down, skip the currently playing song etc.
Of course if you have speakers like the One where you can enable either Alexa 
or the Google Assistant, you don't even need another Echo speaker. We have 
stereo pairs of Sonos One speakers in our bathroom, the kitchen and in my 
woodworking shop and here I can just say "Alexa, play such and such" and since 
Alexa lives on that Sonos speaker it will play my request and I don't have to 
tell it "on bathroom Sonos" or "on kitchen Sonos".

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re Apple Home Pod

No. HomePods have nothing to do with Sonos speakers.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 1, 2020, at 4:02 PM, magpie...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way to control the Sonos speakers with the Home Pod? For example. 
Can I ask the HP to play something on the Sonos speakers? I have several of the 
Sonos speakers and love them and it would justify the high price of the Home 
Pod if this function was available.
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RE: Arranging emails.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah and it's been that way as long as I can remember,

 Guess it comes down to who's developing which application.

Outlook on the computer also allows you to put your mail in a desending or 
asceneding  order.-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Arranging emails.

It works in Outlook, so messages in my Inbox on the computer are in ascending 
order, while on the phone are in descending order - go figure. I guess that 
makes sense to someone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Arranging emails.

Well to me it doesn't work but there is an option under settings / mail that 
puts newest on top,

 Never been able to get it to change.

You could try ms outlook and see if that lets you do it,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2020 7:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Arranging emails.

How do I arrange emails where oldest is on top. A nice lady at Apple 
Accessibility said I couldn't, but I think I can. I hope some of you know. 
Thanks. 

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RE: Recording apps

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Richard,

Just a note on zoom,

Yes you can record the call but you have to have been the one who setup the 
call in zoom,
The host if I remember correctly,

They are the only ones able to record an active call / meeting.

Otherwise should be good to go.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recording apps

There are not really any apps for that as Apple doesn't allow it.
There are some apps that use a conference line idea but that puts your call on 
the cloud and I've not heard anything good about those.
If you could set up a Zoom meeting, you may be able to record the Zoom call.
Otherwise you would need to put the call on speaker and use a separate 
recording device.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jul 1, 2020, at 5:28 AM, Lelia Struve 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good morning everyone I know that this subject has been discussed recently. 
can anybody tell me a good app to use to record phone calls? I want to have a 
three-way conversation and I want to record the call. Thanks for any tips you 
guys can give me

Lelia

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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear 
canel feature
Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the Airpod 
Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can use them 
while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you cannot. You cannot 
place them in your ear while they're in the charging case, and when you place 
the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are 
> what you are thinking of I believe.
> 
> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old 
> wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
> 
> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a 
> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more 
> you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one 
> place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just by 
> sitting flat on the pad.
> 
> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to 
> pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And 
> they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to 
> have an ear free for other things.
> 
> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be 
> best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the 
> newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the 
> lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth 
> way.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hello list,
> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
> airpods, the more I consider buying them.
> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple 
> wired ear buds.
> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
> confortable for me.
> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with 
> Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with 
> Iphone XR, so I cannot compare.
> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
> I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I 
> would like to avoid buying wrong model.
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
> 
> On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last 
> > time I
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without 
> the cables, so there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The 
> Airpod Pros have the silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have 
> passive noise cancellation.
> They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a transparency 
> mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the microphones and 
> transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from 
> this list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. 
> I had coupons and gift cards to burn though, so I'm not sure I would 
> have made the same choice if I were talking about my own money. Bottom 
> line for me is that if you can afford them go with the Pros, but if 
> price is a consideration, you might want to go with the Airpods instead.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
> > Chaltain at Gmail
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> >> Of Jen .
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:46 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> >> differences are between the versions
> >>
> >> Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences 
> >> between the versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Jen
> >>
> >> --
> >> The following information is 

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[chaltain]

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the Airpod 
Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can use them 
while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you cannot. You cannot 
place them in your ear while they're in the charging case, and when you place 
the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
> are
> between the versions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are what 
> you
> are thinking of I believe.
> 
> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old wired
> earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
> 
> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a standard
> iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more you can get the
> wireless charging case which you can if you have one place it on to a wireless
> charging pad and the case / airpods charge just by sitting flat on the pad.
> 
> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to pair with
> your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And they can be used
> either together or as a single pod if you need to have an ear free for other
> things.
> 
> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be best to
> look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the newer phones no
> longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the lightening connectors ar what is
> needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth way.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
> are
> between the versions
> 
> Hello list,
> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
> airpods,
> the more I consider buying them.
> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple wired 
> ear
> buds.
> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
> confortable
> for me.
> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with Iphone 6,
> because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with Iphone XR, 
> so I
> cannot compare.
> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
> I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I would 
> like to
> avoid buying wrong model.
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
> 
> On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last time I
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without the
> cables, so there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The Airpod Pros 
> have
> the silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have passive noise 
> cancellation.
> They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a transparency mode, 
> which
> picks up environmental sounds through the microphones and transmits it
> through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from this list, I went with 
> the
> Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. I had coupons and gift cards to 
> burn
> though, so I'm not sure I would have made the same choice if I were talking
> about my own money. Bottom line for me is that if you can afford them go with
> the Pros, but if price is a consideration, you might want to go with the 
> Airpods
> instead.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
> > Chaltain at Gmail
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> >> Of Jen .
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:46 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
> >> differences are between the versions
> >>
> >> Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences
> >> between the versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Jen
> >>
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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are what you 
are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old wired 
earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods 

Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a standard 
iphone  lightening cable 
Or if you wish to pay slightly more you can get the wireless charging case 
which you can if you have one place it on to a wireless charging pad and the 
case / airpods charge just by sitting flat on the pad.

My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to pair with 
your phone and or other apple device using your apple id 
And they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to have an 
ear free for other things.

Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be best to 
look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the newer phones no 
longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the lightening connectors ar what is 
needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth way.

Hope this helps.

Simon f

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hello list,
First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about airpods, 
the more I consider buying them.
However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple wired 
ear buds.
I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not confortable 
for me.
Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with Iphone 6, 
because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with Iphone XR, so 
I cannot compare.
Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
Can you use them when they are in charging case?
And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I would 
like to avoid buying wrong model.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last time I 
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without the 
> cables, so there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The Airpod Pros 
> have the silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have passive noise 
> cancellation. They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a 
> transparency mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the 
> microphones and transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got 
> from this list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. I 
> had coupons and gift cards to burn though, so I'm not sure I would have made 
> the same choice if I were talking about my own money. Bottom line for me is 
> that if you can afford them go with the Pros, but if price is a 
> consideration, you might want to go with the Airpods instead.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences 
>> between the versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
>> Thanks.
>> Jen
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Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello list,
First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
airpods, the more I consider buying them.
However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple 
wired ear buds.
I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
confortable for me.
Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with 
Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with Iphone 
XR, so I cannot compare.

Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
Can you use them when they are in charging case?
And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I 
would like to avoid buying wrong model.

Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last time I looked 
a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without the cables, so 
there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The Airpod Pros have the 
silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have passive noise 
cancellation. They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a 
transparency mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the microphones 
and transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from this 
list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. I had coupons 
and gift cards to burn though, so I'm not sure I would have made the same 
choice if I were talking about my own money. Bottom line for me is that if you 
can afford them go with the Pros, but if price is a consideration, you might 
want to go with the Airpods instead.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


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Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:46 AM
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Subject: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are
between the versions

Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences between the
versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
Thanks.
Jen

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