Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Arnold Schmidt]

And the chat feature for Visible is accessible? How does it work? 

Arnold 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jul 17, 2020, at 1:35 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:

I recently helped a family member sign up at a Verizon store for pre-pay 
service. After the first month, which inclujded a set up fee of $10 or so, it 
is $30.30 for unlimited calls and text, and 1GB of data even  though the rep 
said it would be  500 MB.

I personally use Visible.com. Go to their website and they only offer one plan 
and it is described very clearly. Also read reviews to make sure you can live 
with the  very slight  drawbacks. I love the service and only pay $25 monthly 
for unlimited calls, text, data and hotspot. It uses the Verizon network.

Jeff

At 07:36 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:
> Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
> out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 
> 2020 and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out 
> T-Mobile’s site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with 
> Verizon’s site. It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling 
> plans.   Am I missing something?  For those who have shopped around, what is 
> your method?  I’m inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but 
> haven’t had the time.  
>  
> Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
> easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet 
> service, which I do not. 
>  
>  
>  
>  
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Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Jeff Samco]

I recently helped a family member sign up at a Verizon store for 
pre-pay service. After the first month, which inclujded a set up fee 
of $10 or so, it is $30.30 for unlimited calls and text, and 1GB of 
data even  though the rep said it would be  500 MB.


I personally use Visible.com. Go to their website and they only offer 
one plan and it is described very clearly. Also read reviews to make 
sure you can live with the  very slight  drawbacks. I love the 
service and only pay $25 monthly for unlimited calls, text, data and 
hotspot. It uses the Verizon network.


Jeff

At 07:36 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:
Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard 
to find out how much plans cost?  I'm currently on Verizon with my 
new unlocked SE 2020 and want to look at potentially switching. I 
cannot even figure out T-Mobile's site, even with the accessibility 
mode turned on. Same with Verizon's site. It's like they are hiding 
the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing something?  For 
those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I'm inclined to 
go to a store to at least get some answers, but haven't had the time.


Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at 
least easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their 
internet service, which I do not.






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RE: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of the Audible app?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Richard,

 

I did call Audible and got a very helpful support person. She told me the 
remaining time was on the mini player which is near the bottom just above the 
bottomline buttons which include Home, Library, etc. from left to right. I find 
that swiping once to the right when focus is on the mini player play button 
lands me on the book title which is announced followed by the current chapter 
number and then the time remaining in the book. I'm pretty certain this 
information used to be announced when in the full player mode but I might be 
wrong about that.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest 
version of the Audible app?

 

I don’t find it anywhere.

There was a spot before I opened the mini player that said there were 11 hours 
and 1 minutes left.

However, that number didn’t change after it had played for a couple of minutes.

When I opened the mini player, that info disappeared.

 

If it is there visually, then it will be worth writing them, or calling them.

It is probably worth writing or calling even if it isn’t there visually because 
it should be.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:52 AM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of 
the Audible app?

 

Hi List,

 

I'm running the latest version of the Audible app on an iPhone SE 2020 running 
iOS 13.6. I used to could double tap on the Audible mini player when a book was 
playing and swiping around on the full player would announce the time remaining 
in the book. I'm much more interested in the book remaining time than the time 
remaining in a chapter which I really don't need. I updated the Audible app 
yesterday and I'm no longer hearing the time remaining in the book and was 
wondering if others using the app are experiencing the same thing. If you can 
direct me as to how to get the time remaining, I'd love to hear how.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

[Alan Lemly]

Keith,

I updated my SE 2020 this morning to iOS 13.6 and haven't had any issues.

Alan Lemly 

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Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: shopping for mobile plans

[Richard Turner]

Xfinity is great if you have their internet.
We were on Consumer cellular before Xfinity offered their plan.
Consumer cellular was quite affordable and very good customer service.
I suggest calling the various companies.
I know Consumer Cellular will give you all the details up front.
Verizon does have an accessibility department, so maybe they would be more 
helpful.
I don't have much experience with anyone else.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:36 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:


Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 2020 
and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out T-Mobile’s 
site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with Verizon’s site. 
It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing 
something?  For those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I’m 
inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but haven’t had the 
time.

Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet service, 
which I do not.





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shopping for mobile plans

[R Van Lant]

Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
out how much plans cost?  I'm currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 2020 
and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out T-Mobile's 
site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with Verizon's site. 
It's like they are hiding the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing 
something?  For those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I'm 
inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but haven't had the 
time.

Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet service, 
which I do not.




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RE: Several questions regarding newly purchased S E 2020

[R Van Lant]

I bought an unlocked SE 2020 and did not move my SIM card over until after I 
knew the transfer ws complete.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Several questions regarding newly purchased S E 2020


I am moving from a 6 to an S E 2020.  I didn't buy a new sim card as I plan to 
by coverage with an M V N O.



I saved Alan Lemley's steps to transfer info from one iPhone to another but 
want to know whether I will be unable to accomplish the transfer because the 
new iPhone has no sim card.



Question 2.  Does anyone have any strong opinion as to which M V N O gives the 
best bang for the buck?  Don't need a lot of data.



Question 3.  My understanding is that the S E 2020 has a home button, albeit a 
simulated home button.  So what part of the transition from the 6 to the S E 
2020 is likely to give me the most difficulty?



Thanks in advance for any responses.



Don Roberts


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RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

[Simon A Fogarty]

No problem with it that I can at this point find 
And I'm running it on my iPad as well as a phone.

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hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
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Re: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

[Dave]

It seems to be perfectly fine.

Dave.

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hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
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RE: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

[Richard Turner]

I have no regrets.
It didn't do a lot for VoiceOver users, but it didn't break anything I've 
noticed.



Richard
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Subject: is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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Typing programs for learning to type for Mac?

[Richard Turner]

Is there any program for Mac computers like the Talking Typer from American 
Printing House on iOS?

Thanks,


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is iOS 13.6 safe for an upgrade?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
Are people having any regrets about upgrading to iOS 13.6?
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Re: Voiceover speech not using external speaker except when in sound settings

[brian albriton]

Glad you got this straightened out. My wife had the same issue. In her case, 
the headphone jack was clean as a whistle.  The phone was holding on to a 
Bluetooth headset and wouldn’t let go. Apple accessibility gave it the old 
school try and could not figure it out. Time  turned out to be the cure 

> On Jul 15, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Ann  wrote:
> 
> I know I posted earlier what I thought was a fix, but it went south on me 
> again. But I have fixed it now. And OMG, I can't believe it. But it was dust 
> and gunk in the headphone jack, a whole lot of it!
> I got the gunk out using a toothpick and very very gentle scraping action. I 
> can't believe the large piece of dust that came out of my poor headphone 
> jack. Really gross!
> 
> But now Voiceover is chattering away again. Thanks for the suggestion.
> 
> ~Ann
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RE: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of the Audible app?

[Richard Turner]

I don't find it anywhere.
There was a spot before I opened the mini player that said there were 11 hours 
and 1 minutes left.
However, that number didn't change after it had played for a couple of minutes.
When I opened the mini player, that info disappeared.

If it is there visually, then it will be worth writing them, or calling them.
It is probably worth writing or calling even if it isn't there visually because 
it should be.




Richard
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himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:52 AM
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Subject: Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of 
the Audible app?

Hi List,

I'm running the latest version of the Audible app on an iPhone SE 2020 running 
iOS 13.6. I used to could double tap on the Audible mini player when a book was 
playing and swiping around on the full player would announce the time remaining 
in the book. I'm much more interested in the book remaining time than the time 
remaining in a chapter which I really don't need. I updated the Audible app 
yesterday and I'm no longer hearing the time remaining in the book and was 
wondering if others using the app are experiencing the same thing. If you can 
direct me as to how to get the time remaining, I'd love to hear how.

Thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly

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Where do I get the time remaining in a book with the latest version of the Audible app?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I'm running the latest version of the Audible app on an iPhone SE 2020
running iOS 13.6. I used to could double tap on the Audible mini player when
a book was playing and swiping around on the full player would announce the
time remaining in the book. I'm much more interested in the book remaining
time than the time remaining in a chapter which I really don't need. I
updated the Audible app yesterday and I'm no longer hearing the time
remaining in the book and was wondering if others using the app are
experiencing the same thing. If you can direct me as to how to get the time
remaining, I'd love to hear how.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Several questions regarding newly purchased S E 2020

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I just upgraded my Verizon phone plan.  I can get 5 gigs worth of
data, and unlimited talk and texts for only $25 per month.  Its great.
I had no issues changing my plan.  I just followed the automatic
prompts from the automated system.  I then contacted customer service
and spoke with someone who helped me understand what I had changed to.
If I wanted unlimited data, I could get that for only $50 per month.
Five gigs of data is enough for me.

On 7/16/20, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> If you receive internet through Charter or Comcast/Xfinity, you can
> receive mobile service on Verizon for just $12 for a gig of data.
> Calls and texts are free as is texting to international numbers.  For
> my Canadian friend, these cable companies bought spectrum many years
> ago and sold it to Verizon on the promise that they could buy service
> wholesale at a steep discount in the future.
>
> I use Xfinity Internet for $20 a month and pay $12 split between two lines.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> On 7/15/20, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> The thing I love about a haptic Home button is that you can tell when
>> your
>> phone is off because nothing happens when you press the Home button. This
>> makes restarting the iPhone a lot easier. I just got an SE after having a
>> X,
>> and it's nice to have the Home button back.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Daniel MacDonald
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For the second question, I cannot answer it. I am a Canadian and we do
>>> not
>>> have NVNO’S in the country. The Radio and Television tellecomunacations
>>> communitione
>>>  (CRTC,) which is the equiveletion to the Federal comuntion (FCC,) does
>>> not allow them in. It is a threat to Rogers, Tellus, Eastlink, and Bell,
>>> as well as the smaller carriers, that if they do not lower prices of
>>> cells, NVNO’S will come. I am going to push the CRTC, even if the big
>>> four
>>> lower prices, NVNO’S should come regardless.
>>>
>>> As for the third question, the home button is a kind of virtual space
>>> that
>>> feels like a physical button, like the six, but it is a vibrabory
>>> button.
>>> When the phone is off, the space feels hard,. When it is on, the home
>>> button functions like a Six. Their are three settings that can be set.
>>> They control how the home button feels, and how intense the click feels.
>>> Hope that answers your third question. My Apple ID for FaceTime, which
>>> is
>>> also most of my contact info is daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com
>>> . may cell number is: +1 (902)
>>> 870-9965.
>>> censenerly,
>>> Daniel Angus MacDonald.
>>> On Jul. 15, 2020, at 12:57 AM, Alan Lemly >> > wrote:


 Donald,

 I did almost all of the steps I outlined transferring settings, etc.
 from
 my old iPhone 8 to my new iPhone SE  before I transferred the SIM card
 from the 8 to the SE. So I don't think not having a SIM card in your
 new
 phone will matter as long as it has access to your wifi.

 Alan Lemly

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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On
 Behalf Of Donald Roberts
 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Several questions regarding newly purchased S E 2020

 I am moving from a 6 to an S E 2020.  I didn't buy a new sim card as I
 plan to by coverage with an M V N O.



 I saved Alan Lemley's steps to transfer info from one iPhone to another
 but want to know whether I will be unable to accomplish the transfer
 because the new iPhone has no sim card.



 Question 2.  Does anyone have any strong opinion as to which M V N O
 gives the best bang for the buck?  Don't need a lot of data.



 Question 3.  My understanding is that the S E 2020 has a home button,
 albeit a simulated home button.  So what part of the transition from
 the
 6 to the S E 2020 is likely to give me the most difficulty?



 Thanks in advance for any responses.



 Don Roberts



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Re: A quick iPhone battery question

[regina alvarado]

Oops forgot accessibility. Thanks so much.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Jul 16, 2020, at 11:31 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:


I appreciate your information very much.
 
James B 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A quick iPhone battery question
 
In 2009 I bought the first iPod Touch with VoiceOver, the 3rd generation.
At that time, the normal battery life was maybe 5 hours of use.
But, if you were listening to audio, while the device was locked, you could get 
40 hours.
I tested that very soon as I had ripped most of my CD collection into iTunes so 
I had probably 60 hours of music.
I select songs, shuffle all, and started it playing.
I plugged in headphones, so I wouldn’t hear it all the time while I was 
working, etc.
I checked the battery after 36 hours and it was at 20%.
 
That is still true.  If you are playing audio, or video for that matter, and 
lock the phone, you get far greater battery life.
 
Whether that has to do with the screen brightness or not, I don’t know, but 
probably not as having the device locked does more than just blank the screen.
 
I know with my new SE 2020, with screen brightness set to auto and leaving the 
screen curtain on, I get a full day and more depending on usage, but I use it a 
lot every day for books, email, reading news, searching the web, etc.
Yesterday, from 100% in the morning, it was at about 50% when I went to bed.
It doesn’t lose much at all over night, maybe 1 or 2%.
 
 
 
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
 
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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A quick iPhone battery question
 
Hi all,
 
If I set my iPhone screen brightness to zero, will my screen use zero battery 
power?  Or, will I save more battery power if the screen is locked?
 
Thanks,
 
James B 
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Re: Several questions regarding newly purchased S E 2020

[Kelly Pierce]

If you receive internet through Charter or Comcast/Xfinity, you can
receive mobile service on Verizon for just $12 for a gig of data.
Calls and texts are free as is texting to international numbers.  For
my Canadian friend, these cable companies bought spectrum many years
ago and sold it to Verizon on the promise that they could buy service
wholesale at a steep discount in the future.

I use Xfinity Internet for $20 a month and pay $12 split between two lines.

Kelly


On 7/15/20, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> The thing I love about a haptic Home button is that you can tell when your
> phone is off because nothing happens when you press the Home button. This
> makes restarting the iPhone a lot easier. I just got an SE after having a X,
> and it's nice to have the Home button back.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Daniel MacDonald
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For the second question, I cannot answer it. I am a Canadian and we do not
>> have NVNO’S in the country. The Radio and Television tellecomunacations
>> communitione
>>  (CRTC,) which is the equiveletion to the Federal comuntion (FCC,) does
>> not allow them in. It is a threat to Rogers, Tellus, Eastlink, and Bell,
>> as well as the smaller carriers, that if they do not lower prices of
>> cells, NVNO’S will come. I am going to push the CRTC, even if the big four
>> lower prices, NVNO’S should come regardless.
>>
>> As for the third question, the home button is a kind of virtual space that
>> feels like a physical button, like the six, but it is a vibrabory button.
>> When the phone is off, the space feels hard,. When it is on, the home
>> button functions like a Six. Their are three settings that can be set.
>> They control how the home button feels, and how intense the click feels.
>> Hope that answers your third question. My Apple ID for FaceTime, which is
>> also most of my contact info is daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com
>> . may cell number is: +1 (902)
>> 870-9965.
>> censenerly,
>> Daniel Angus MacDonald.
>> On Jul. 15, 2020, at 12:57 AM, Alan Lemly > > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Donald,
>>>
>>> I did almost all of the steps I outlined transferring settings, etc. from
>>> my old iPhone 8 to my new iPhone SE  before I transferred the SIM card
>>> from the 8 to the SE. So I don't think not having a SIM card in your new
>>> phone will matter as long as it has access to your wifi.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On
>>> Behalf Of Donald Roberts
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Several questions regarding newly purchased S E 2020
>>>
>>> I am moving from a 6 to an S E 2020.  I didn't buy a new sim card as I
>>> plan to by coverage with an M V N O.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I saved Alan Lemley's steps to transfer info from one iPhone to another
>>> but want to know whether I will be unable to accomplish the transfer
>>> because the new iPhone has no sim card.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Question 2.  Does anyone have any strong opinion as to which M V N O
>>> gives the best bang for the buck?  Don't need a lot of data.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Question 3.  My understanding is that the S E 2020 has a home button,
>>> albeit a simulated home button.  So what part of the transition from the
>>> 6 to the S E 2020 is likely to give me the most difficulty?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don Roberts
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: A quick iPhone battery question

[bentleyj1952]

I appreciate your information very much.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A quick iPhone battery question

 

In 2009 I bought the first iPod Touch with VoiceOver, the 3rd generation.

At that time, the normal battery life was maybe 5 hours of use.

But, if you were listening to audio, while the device was locked, you could get 
40 hours.

I tested that very soon as I had ripped most of my CD collection into iTunes so 
I had probably 60 hours of music.

I select songs, shuffle all, and started it playing.

I plugged in headphones, so I wouldn’t hear it all the time while I was 
working, etc.

I checked the battery after 36 hours and it was at 20%.

 

That is still true.  If you are playing audio, or video for that matter, and 
lock the phone, you get far greater battery life.

 

Whether that has to do with the screen brightness or not, I don’t know, but 
probably not as having the device locked does more than just blank the screen.

 

I know with my new SE 2020, with screen brightness set to auto and leaving the 
screen curtain on, I get a full day and more depending on usage, but I use it a 
lot every day for books, email, reading news, searching the web, etc.

Yesterday, from 100% in the morning, it was at about 50% when I went to bed.

It doesn’t lose much at all over night, maybe 1 or 2%.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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Subject: A quick iPhone battery question

 

Hi all,

 

If I set my iPhone screen brightness to zero, will my screen use zero battery 
power?  Or, will I save more battery power if the screen is locked?

 

Thanks,

 

James B  

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RE: A quick iPhone battery question

[Richard Turner]

Auto brightness is in Accessibility, Display and text size.

HTH,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A quick iPhone battery question

Richard, Which setting for brightness are you talking about? I see brightness 
which I have at zero, but I don't see an automatic. Trying to duplicate your 
results with the battery with my SE2. Do yr results take into account calls? 
You are getting really good battery life. Thanks for the help. I do see a 
setting for automatic true tone. Am I on the right track?
Reggie Alvarado

On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

In 2009 I bought the first iPod Touch with VoiceOver, the 3rd generation.
At that time, the normal battery life was maybe 5 hours of use.
But, if you were listening to audio, while the device was locked, you could get 
40 hours.
I tested that very soon as I had ripped most of my CD collection into iTunes so 
I had probably 60 hours of music.
I select songs, shuffle all, and started it playing.
I plugged in headphones, so I wouldn’t hear it all the time while I was 
working, etc.
I checked the battery after 36 hours and it was at 20%.

That is still true.  If you are playing audio, or video for that matter, and 
lock the phone, you get far greater battery life.
Whether that has to do with the screen brightness or not, I don’t know, but 
probably not as having the device locked does more than just blank the screen.

I know with my new SE 2020, with screen brightness set to auto and leaving the 
screen curtain on, I get a full day and more depending on usage, but I use it a 
lot every day for books, email, reading news, searching the web, etc.
Yesterday, from 100% in the morning, it was at about 50% when I went to bed.
It doesn’t lose much at all over night, maybe 1 or 2%.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A quick iPhone battery question

Hi all,

If I set my iPhone screen brightness to zero, will my screen use zero battery 
power?  Or, will I save more battery power if the screen is locked?

Thanks,

James B
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Re: A quick iPhone battery question

[regina alvarado]

Richard, Which setting for brightness are you talking about? I see brightness 
which I have at zero, but I don't see an automatic. Trying to duplicate your 
results with the battery with my SE2. Do yr results take into account calls? 
You are getting really good battery life. Thanks for the help. I do see a 
setting for automatic true tone. Am I on the right track? 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


In 2009 I bought the first iPod Touch with VoiceOver, the 3rd generation.
At that time, the normal battery life was maybe 5 hours of use.
But, if you were listening to audio, while the device was locked, you could get 
40 hours.
I tested that very soon as I had ripped most of my CD collection into iTunes so 
I had probably 60 hours of music.
I select songs, shuffle all, and started it playing.
I plugged in headphones, so I wouldn’t hear it all the time while I was 
working, etc.
I checked the battery after 36 hours and it was at 20%.
 
That is still true.  If you are playing audio, or video for that matter, and 
lock the phone, you get far greater battery life.
Whether that has to do with the screen brightness or not, I don’t know, but 
probably not as having the device locked does more than just blank the screen.
 
I know with my new SE 2020, with screen brightness set to auto and leaving the 
screen curtain on, I get a full day and more depending on usage, but I use it a 
lot every day for books, email, reading news, searching the web, etc.
Yesterday, from 100% in the morning, it was at about 50% when I went to bed.
It doesn’t lose much at all over night, maybe 1 or 2%.
 
 
 
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
 
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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A quick iPhone battery question
 
Hi all,
 
If I set my iPhone screen brightness to zero, will my screen use zero battery 
power?  Or, will I save more battery power if the screen is locked?
 
Thanks,
 
James B 
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RE: Last Outlook comment

[Richard Turner]

I just realized, we are straying even farther off topic for the VIPhone list 
and apologize for my contributing to that.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Last Outlook comment

We use outlook in office 365 on the computer. My wife’s machine had terrible 
problems. We couldn’t get outlook to open. I finally ran a restore on her 
machine taking it back to 7 or 8 days ago and all works fine now.


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I use Outlook every day on my computer and have had no issues this week.
Since the note was posted on the VIPhone list, I assumed people were talking 
about the Outlook app on Apple devices.

I don’t use Outlook on my iPhone.




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West
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Thanks everyone for your comments. Stupid, meaning me, didn’t Google the 
outage. I was sure it was my computer!! I know of one person who restored his 
computer totally. What a mess!
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RE: Accessible accounting software?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

QuickBooks Online is very accessible, but it's a subscription model.
As Tom said, it would help if you explained a bit more if you are looking for 
something just for personal finances or for a business.
I have been using Sage 50 for 20 years (it used to be called Simply Accounting 
prior to becoming Sage 50) and it works fine for me although I would not call 
it exactly fully accessible and I'd probably not recommend it because they 
don't care at all about accessibility. I am just used to it and I can do what I 
need to do for my retail business which is primarily using the Purchases and 
Payments journals to enter invoices and pay suppliers as well as the General 
Journal for entering my sales and the account reconciliation feature to 
reconcile my bank accounts.
I recently purchased a new building for my business and incorporated a new 
holding company which owns the building and I am planning to use QuickBooks 
Online for this company. There isn't a lot of volume especially once the 
renovations are done, just some back and forth stuff between the company which 
is my retail business and the new company which owns the building and I hope I 
learn QuickBooks Online and get used to it to the point where I can switch my 
retail business as well when my new fiscal year starts on January 1, 2021. At 
that point I hope to also integrate the new point o fsale system we are going 
to use once we move to the new location in about 3 or 4 weeks with QuickBooks 
Online.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
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I only know of software to handle checking account info.  Let me know if that's 
what you are looking for. 


-Original Message-
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Chopra
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:16 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Accessible accounting software?

Is there any fully accessible, VoiceOver compatible, accounting software?

I have been desperately looking for some accounting software over the past few 
years, but I have never been lucky!
I could make do by having an accountant friend visit me and write my accounts 
for me on my non-accessible software.
COVID19 has put an end to that! we specially challenged people have to now do 
more and more things on our own, accounting is one of them. How are all of you 
guys managing? Would love to get some solution for this tremendously vexing 
problem!
Stay Safe! Stay Healthy!! Stay ISOLATED!!! 
K 

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RE: Last Outlook comment

[llumpkin]

We use outlook in office 365 on the computer. My wife’s machine had terrible 
problems. We couldn’t get outlook to open. I finally ran a restore on her 
machine taking it back to 7 or 8 days ago and all works fine now.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Last Outlook comment

 

I use Outlook every day on my computer and have had no issues this week.

Since the note was posted on the VIPhone list, I assumed people were talking 
about the Outlook app on Apple devices.

 

I don’t use Outlook on my iPhone.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anne West
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Last Outlook comment

 

Thanks everyone for your comments. Stupid, meaning me, didn’t Google the 
outage. I was sure it was my computer!! I know of one person who restored his 
computer totally. What a mess!

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RE: Last Outlook comment

[Richard Turner]

I use Outlook every day on my computer and have had no issues this week.
Since the note was posted on the VIPhone list, I assumed people were talking 
about the Outlook app on Apple devices.

I don’t use Outlook on my iPhone.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anne West
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Last Outlook comment

[Anne West]

Thanks everyone for your comments. Stupid, meaning me, didn't Google the
outage. I was sure it was my computer!! I know of one person who restored
his computer totally. What a mess!

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RE: A quick iPhone battery question

[Richard Turner]

In 2009 I bought the first iPod Touch with VoiceOver, the 3rd generation.
At that time, the normal battery life was maybe 5 hours of use.
But, if you were listening to audio, while the device was locked, you could get 
40 hours.
I tested that very soon as I had ripped most of my CD collection into iTunes so 
I had probably 60 hours of music.
I select songs, shuffle all, and started it playing.
I plugged in headphones, so I wouldn’t hear it all the time while I was 
working, etc.
I checked the battery after 36 hours and it was at 20%.

That is still true.  If you are playing audio, or video for that matter, and 
lock the phone, you get far greater battery life.
Whether that has to do with the screen brightness or not, I don’t know, but 
probably not as having the device locked does more than just blank the screen.

I know with my new SE 2020, with screen brightness set to auto and leaving the 
screen curtain on, I get a full day and more depending on usage, but I use it a 
lot every day for books, email, reading news, searching the web, etc.
Yesterday, from 100% in the morning, it was at about 50% when I went to bed.
It doesn’t lose much at all over night, maybe 1 or 2%.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A quick iPhone battery question

Hi all,

If I set my iPhone screen brightness to zero, will my screen use zero battery 
power?  Or, will I save more battery power if the screen is locked?

Thanks,

James B
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RE: Off topic, Outlook issue today

[Anne West]

Thanks Kim but all is working as it should now. I don't get ads on my computer.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimber 
Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off topic, Outlook issue today

Ugh. i spent two hours on this yesterday afternoon! I did get my outlook 
working again though. I did it by disabling the add ins.

If you want the steps to do this I can provide them.

Kim

On 7/16/20, Afik Souffir  wrote:
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> Hi Ann and all,
>
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>
> I have the same problem since yesterday evening Israel time.
>
>
>
> The problem hasn’t been fixed yet.
>
>
>
> For now, I’m using mail for windows 10.
>
>
>
> Hope they will fix it soon!
>
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>
> Afik.
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> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: Anne West
> Sent: יום חמישי 16 יולי 2020 04:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Off topic, Outlook issue today
>
>
>
> Good evening everyone.
>
>
>
> I was not very happy earlier today when I wanted to check email and in 
> no way could I open Outlook. It did some very strange things.
>
>
>
> I called the company hosting my virus protection and computer repair 
> and I was told it was a Microsoft issue and not my computer. Outlook 
> was back when I checked my mail at 8:15. I was advised that Microsoft 
> would have the problem fixed tomorrow. I checked email on my iPhone but 
> didn’t answer many.
>
>
>
> So, if you were pulling your hair out earlier today you know why.
>
>
>
> Anne
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RE: Off topic, Outlook issue today

[dfibraio]

Hi. Don't post here much, but I saw an article on this yesterday, I think from 
PC World, that mentioned Microsoft hosed Outlook and they were working on a 
fix. They did have a command line thing you could do to roll back Outlook to 
the last stable version, which I did and that worked. Google pcworld outlook 
crash and maybe you'll find it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimber 
Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Off topic, Outlook issue today

Ugh. i spent two hours on this yesterday afternoon! I did get my outlook 
working again though. I did it by disabling the add ins.

If you want the steps to do this I can provide them.

Kim

On 7/16/20, Afik Souffir  wrote:
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> Hi Ann and all,
>
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>
> I have the same problem since yesterday evening Israel time.
>
>
>
> The problem hasn’t been fixed yet.
>
>
>
> For now, I’m using mail for windows 10.
>
>
>
> Hope they will fix it soon!
>
>
>
> Afik.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
> From: Anne West
> Sent: יום חמישי 16 יולי 2020 04:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Off topic, Outlook issue today
>
>
>
> Good evening everyone.
>
>
>
> I was not very happy earlier today when I wanted to check email and in 
> no way could I open Outlook. It did some very strange things.
>
>
>
> I called the company hosting my virus protection and computer repair 
> and I was told it was a Microsoft issue and not my computer. Outlook 
> was back when I checked my mail at 8:15. I was advised that Microsoft 
> would have the problem fixed tomorrow. I checked email on my iPhone but 
> didn’t answer many.
>
>
>
> So, if you were pulling your hair out earlier today you know why.
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> Anne
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Re: Off topic, Outlook issue today

[Kimber Gardner]

Ugh. i spent two hours on this yesterday afternoon! I did get my
outlook working again though. I did it by disabling the add ins.

If you want the steps to do this I can provide them.

Kim

On 7/16/20, Afik Souffir  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Ann and all,
>
>
>
> I have the same problem since yesterday evening Israel time.
>
>
>
> The problem hasn’t been fixed yet.
>
>
>
> For now, I’m using mail for windows 10.
>
>
>
> Hope they will fix it soon!
>
>
>
> Afik.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
> From: Anne West
> Sent: יום חמישי 16 יולי 2020 04:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Off topic, Outlook issue today
>
>
>
> Good evening everyone.
>
>
>
> I was not very happy earlier today when I wanted to check email and in no
> way could I open Outlook. It did some very strange things.
>
>
>
> I called the company hosting my virus protection and computer repair and I
> was told it was a Microsoft issue and not my computer. Outlook was back when
> I checked my mail at 8:15. I was advised that Microsoft would have the
> problem fixed tomorrow. I checked email on my iPhone but didn’t answer many.
>
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A quick iPhone battery question

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

If I set my iPhone screen brightness to zero, will my screen use zero
battery power?  Or, will I save more battery power if the screen is locked?

 

Thanks,

 

James B  

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RE: Accessible accounting software?

[Tom Rash]

I only know of software to handle checking account info.  Let me know if that's 
what you are looking for. 


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Chopra
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:16 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Accessible accounting software?

Is there any fully accessible, VoiceOver compatible, accounting software?

I have been desperately looking for some accounting software over the past few 
years, but I have never been lucky!
I could make do by having an accountant friend visit me and write my accounts 
for me on my non-accessible software.
COVID19 has put an end to that! we specially challenged people have to now do 
more and more things on our own, accounting is one of them. How are all of you 
guys managing? Would love to get some solution for this tremendously vexing 
problem!
Stay Safe! Stay Healthy!! Stay ISOLATED!!! 
K 

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