in search of a keyboard case for my iPad mini for

[Jen .]

Hi,
I I am looking for a keyboard case for my iPad mini fourth generation not too 
expensive preferably through Amazon or some other easy place to access online 
that is available in Canada as I really am not ready to go to stores as of yet 
to look for such things.
Thanks in advance if you can help as I am curious what people are using for 
this kind of thing.
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Re: Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It

[Arnold Schmidt]

I am glad you did not have to go the reset all settings route to fix it. The 
problem Ihad several years ago when I went that route, with the resulting 
situation described earlier, was that Apple Braille Screen input got seriously 
jumbled up, none of the dots were remotely where they were supposed to be, 
making it completely unuseable. I now know how to fix it if it gets that way 
again, leaving resetting all settings as the last resort. I don't remember ever 
having seen that folder you mentioned, I am going to look for it now. Thanks 
for letting us know the resolution to your problem. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:23 PM, Mike B  wrote:


Hi Richard,
 
I don't know how the Programming or Activity items got activated so that they 
could lock the speech rate, since I don't ever mess around in this folder, but 
I just don't have a clue how I could have bumped or moved something on the 
phone to make all this happen.
 
I'm wondering if this is something I did on the rotor.  I had the Activities on 
the rotor and maybe that's what I did, was accidentally swipe up or down on the 
Activities item while turning the rotor.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2021 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It

HI Mike,
I did not realize the Activity option would allow you to lock the speech rate. 
That whole section is there so you can set up different configurations for 
different apps or situations.
So, if you wanted a different voice for a particular app, I think you can do 
that in there.
I only looked at it briefly when it first arrived, so hopefully you will get 
more details from Apple next week.
 
I’m glad you got it resolved now.
 
 
 
Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

 
Web site: www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It
 
Hi All,
 
I don't know how this happened, but there's a folder / item called, Activities, 
in voiceover settings.  When I opened this and opened the, Programs, option I 
noticed that I could chage the voiceover speech rate setting here, but nowhere 
else.  There is also an item called, Activity 1, in here as well, but I don't 
recall ever purposely setting either the Programs or Activity 1, options up.  
Maybe this was done automatically somehow, or I set these 2 items up without 
knowing I did it.
 
Anyways I deleted both the, Programs and Activity 1, items from the Activities 
folder and now my voiceover speech rate is again working in both voiceover 
settings and from the Speech Rate option on the rotor.
 
I'll learn more about the Activities folder when I talk to Apple Accessibility 
next week.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
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Re: Mark on the New Apple Siri Remote for Apple TV, A Question

[Angela L Griffith]

Wow, I also got the new remote control, and didn't realize you can turn off the 
swipe feature. Would you mind letting us know how to do that?

Thanks,
Angela L Griffith
Sent from my mobile phone

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 3:19 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, I just purchased the new Siri remote for my Apple TV.
> 
> Very nice.  I like the fact that I can now switch off both my Apple TV and
> television with the click of one button.
> 
> I also like the fact that the swiping feature can be disabled; making the
> remote more similar to the original Apple TV remote.
> 
> A general question to you all:  Are there any accessibility secrets that are
> now available with this latest version of the Siri remote?
> 
> Mark
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Re: Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It

[Mike B]

Hi Richard,

I don't know how the Programming or Activity items got activated so that 
they could lock the speech rate, since I don't ever mess around in this 
folder, but I just don't have a clue how I could have bumped or moved 
something on the phone to make all this happen.

I'm wondering if this is something I did on the rotor.  I had the Activities 
on the rotor and maybe that's what I did, was accidentally swipe up or down 
on the Activities item while turning the rotor.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2021 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It


HI Mike,

I did not realize the Activity option would allow you to lock the speech 
rate.

That whole section is there so you can set up different configurations for 
different apps or situations.

So, if you wanted a different voice for a particular app, I think you can do 
that in there.

I only looked at it briefly when it first arrived, so hopefully you will get 
more details from Apple next week.



I’m glad you got it resolved now.







Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



Web site: www.turner42.com







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It



Hi All,



I don't know how this happened, but there's a folder / item called, 
Activities, in voiceover settings.  When I opened this and opened the, 
Programs, option I noticed that I could chage the voiceover speech rate 
setting here, but nowhere else.  There is also an item called, Activity 1, 
in here as well, but I don't recall ever purposely setting either the 
Programs or Activity 1, options up.  Maybe this was done automatically 
somehow, or I set these 2 items up without knowing I did it.



Anyways I deleted both the, Programs and Activity 1, items from the 
Activities folder and now my voiceover speech rate is again working in both 
voiceover settings and from the Speech Rate option on the rotor.



I'll learn more about the Activities folder when I talk to Apple 
Accessibility next week.





Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"


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RE: Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It

[Richard Turner]

HI Mike,
I did not realize the Activity option would allow you to lock the speech rate.
That whole section is there so you can set up different configurations for 
different apps or situations.
So, if you wanted a different voice for a particular app, I think you can do 
that in there.
I only looked at it briefly when it first arrived, so hopefully you will get 
more details from Apple next week.

I'm glad you got it resolved now.



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It

Hi All,

I don't know how this happened, but there's a folder / item called, Activities, 
in voiceover settings.  When I opened this and opened the, Programs, option I 
noticed that I could chage the voiceover speech rate setting here, but nowhere 
else.  There is also an item called, Activity 1, in here as well, but I don't 
recall ever purposely setting either the Programs or Activity 1, options up.  
Maybe this was done automatically somehow, or I set these 2 items up without 
knowing I did it.

Anyways I deleted both the, Programs and Activity 1, items from the Activities 
folder and now my voiceover speech rate is again working in both voiceover 
settings and from the Speech Rate option on the rotor.

I'll learn more about the Activities folder when I talk to Apple Accessibility 
next week.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

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RE: still trouble with eyenote

[Richard Turner]

Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished
If you can use another money identifying app, then try deleting Eyenote yet 
again.
This time, when you redownload it, do not open  it.
Just redownload it, then go to the iPhone Settings, eyeNote and enable the 
camera there or toggle it on and off and set it to speak, etc.

Then, launch the app.


Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: still trouble with eyenote

Hi all. I'm still not having success using eyenote. I checked my settings for 
the camera under eyenote, turned the camera off and then back on again. I still 
get no speech or anything when I open the app and hold the phone above a bill. 
The's no speech or anything. The phone just hangs out. Any idea what might be 
going on  or what I'm missing. I'm using an iphone 7 running 14.5.
Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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still trouble with eyenote

[Paul JOrdan]

Hi all. I'm still not having success using eyenote. I checked my settings
for the camera under eyenote, turned the camera off and then back on again.
I still get no speech or anything when I open the app and hold the phone
above a bill. The's no speech or anything. The phone just hangs out. Any
idea what might be going on  or what I'm missing. I'm using an iphone 7
running 14.5.

Thanks. 

God bless!

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Re: Macbook email list

[Kliph]

User of just apple products, like to ask and answer without other topics?  
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> On Jul 9, 2021, at 1:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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Locked Voiceover Speech Rate Now Working, How I Fixed It

[Mike B]

Hi All,

I don't know how this happened, but there's a folder / item called, 
Activities, in voiceover settings.  When I opened this and opened the, 
Programs, option I noticed that I could chage the voiceover speech rate 
setting here, but nowhere else.  There is also an item called, Activity 1, 
in here as well, but I don't recall ever purposely setting either the 
Programs or Activity 1, options up.  Maybe this was done automatically 
somehow, or I set these 2 items up without knowing I did it.

Anyways I deleted both the, Programs and Activity 1, items from the 
Activities folder and now my voiceover speech rate is again working in both 
voiceover settings and from the Speech Rate option on the rotor.

I'll learn more about the Activities folder when I talk to Apple 
Accessibility next week.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

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iCloud Email

[Steve Cook]

Hi All, 

 

How do I set up an iCloud Email?

 

Steve Cook

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Re: Adding items to rotor

[Dan Yates]

Many thanks Dave and Anna! Was able to make the change easily Thanks to you all!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 2:18 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Assuming you are asking for an iPhone or iPad...
> 
> Go to:
> Settings/accessibility/voiceover/rotor
> 
> Here you will get alist of all of the rotor options you can add. Double tap 
> on any you wish to add to your rotor. You should hear "selected" when you 
> double tap an option. 
> To remove a selectedoption, just double tap it again.
> You can also reorder the options on the rotor to your best advantage. 
> 
> IOS will also add some context-sensitive options to the rotor depending on 
> what you are doing at any particular time. For example, the "edit" rotor item 
> will appear on the rotor any time you are editing information but it will not 
> be there if you are not in edit mode. 
> 
> Also, apps can add their own items to the rotor depending on how they have 
> been programmed. For example, the Pages app will add a number of items to the 
> rotor relating to formatting options. 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> 
> On Jul 9, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> I have looked on old stuff and can’t locate it, but would like to know how 
> to add things to the rotor, such as voiceover speed
> 
> Dan
> 
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Mark on the New Apple Siri Remote for Apple TV, A Question

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I just purchased the new Siri remote for my Apple TV.

Very nice.  I like the fact that I can now switch off both my Apple TV and
television with the click of one button.

I also like the fact that the swiping feature can be disabled; making the
remote more similar to the original Apple TV remote.

A general question to you all:  Are there any accessibility secrets that are
now available with this latest version of the Siri remote?

Mark

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Re: Macbook email list

[Robert Doc Wright]

I didn't know that I could ask Macbook Air questions on an iPhone list.
  - Original Message - 
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  What 

  You mean like this list which you are already subscribed to and therefore 
don’t need to resubscribe!

   

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Doc Wright
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  I have a refurbished Macbook Air on the way. can someone send me the 
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Re: Adding items to rotor

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

Assuming you are asking for an iPhone or iPad...

Go to:
Settings/accessibility/voiceover/rotor

Here you will get alist of all of the rotor options you can add. Double tap on 
any you wish to add to your rotor. You should hear "selected" when you double 
tap an option. 
To remove a selectedoption, just double tap it again.
You can also reorder the options on the rotor to your best advantage. 

IOS will also add some context-sensitive options to the rotor depending on what 
you are doing at any particular time. For example, the "edit" rotor item will 
appear on the rotor any time you are editing information but it will not be 
there if you are not in edit mode. 

Also, apps can add their own items to the rotor depending on how they have been 
programmed. For example, the Pages app will add a number of items to the rotor 
relating to formatting options. 

Hope this helps,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
 

On Jul 9, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:

I have looked on old stuff and can’t locate it, but would like to know how to 
add things to the rotor, such as voiceover speed

Dan

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Re: Adding items to rotor

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Dan,

Open VoiceOver settings, and choose Rotor. All possible rotor items are listed 
on that screen. Double-tapping an item selects or deselects it. select the ones 
you want on the rotor. You can also reorder items on the rotor from that screen.

Best,
Anna


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Siri 101.

[Carolyn]

This interesting podcast was on another list. 

I asked there, haven't heard, but here is what I would like
to know. 

1.  How does one change the signal sound for Siri? 
2.   When he said Siri, Siri addressed him saying good
morning, Pete. How could I set that one, only not good
morning, Pete, of course LOL. 


https://www.dropbox.com/s/093f9whjvwybx7b/HeySiriDemo.mp3?dl
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RE: test

[Carolyn]

It seemed a little quiet to me, but found some in Junk, so rerouted. 

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Just testing the list.


Danny

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Adding items to rotor

[Dan Yates]

I have looked on old stuff and can’t locate it, but would like to know how to 
add things to the rotor, such as voiceover speed

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RE: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

[Richard Turner]

You just need to stop feeding those Gremlins, .

I’ll be interested to know what they come up with.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

Hi Richard,

I just got off the phone with Apple Accessibility and they've escalated the 
issue, taken a screen recording and copied the phones diagnostics, so hopefully 
they'll find something simple.  This is totally weird, it happened and I wasn't 
even using the phone.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2021 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

mike,
That is a first. There is no setting like that.
Perhaps going through the reset of your settings; but I think I'd call Apple 
Accessibility first. But you could reset all settings which means you will not 
lose any data, just all your settings; which can be tedious to have to go 
through.
Maybe apple would have an easier solution.


Richard
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On Jul 9, 2021, at 4:01 AM, Mike B 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Morning All,

I'm running iOS14.6 on an SE2020 iPhone.  I don't know what happened, but my 
phone was laying on my desk one minute and the next time I picked it up to do 
something or another the speech rate was faster than my default rate.  No 
biggie right?  Well, I can't change it in Voiceover speech rate settings or 
from the rotor!  I rebooted the phone and I tried changing voices, but I still 
can't adjust my speech rate.

Did I somehow lock the voice rate setting?  Is there such a feature that locks 
speech rate?  Can anyone help me get my speech rate adjustment working again?!  
All help is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks mooy mooy 
moocho!


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
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Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

[Arnold Schmidt]

I agree with Richard in that resetting all settings very well may   fix it. A 
word of caution before you do it: The only time I have ever had to reset all 
settings  was several years ago with my iPhone 6. I waited and waited, but 
VoiceOver never came back on, it is the only time I have ever had to get 
sighted assistance to do anything with my iPhones, being that triple clicking 
the home button didn't work, and Siri could not turn it back on, either. 
Everybody else says voiceOver comes back on for them, hopefully it will for 
you, too, if you go this route, but be prepared with some sighted assistance if 
it doesn's. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jul 9, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Mike B  wrote:


Hi Richard,
 
I just got off the phone with Apple Accessibility and they've escalated the 
issue, taken a screen recording and copied the phones diagnostics, so hopefully 
they'll find something simple.  This is totally weird, it happened and I wasn't 
even using the phone.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2021 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

mike,
That is a first. There is no setting like that.
Perhaps going through the reset of your settings; but I think I'd call Apple 
Accessibility first. But you could reset all settings which means you will not 
lose any data, just all your settings; which can be tedious to have to go 
through.
Maybe apple would have an easier solution.



Richard 
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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> On Jul 9, 2021, at 4:01 AM, Mike B  wrote:
> 
> Morning All,
>  
> I'm running iOS14.6 on an SE2020 iPhone.  I don't know what happened, but my 
> phone was laying on my desk one minute and the next time I picked it up to do 
> something or another the speech rate was faster than my default rate.  No 
> biggie right?  Well, I can't change it in Voiceover speech rate settings or 
> from the rotor!  I rebooted the phone and I tried changing voices, but I 
> still can't adjust my speech rate.
>  
> Did I somehow lock the voice rate setting?  Is there such a feature that 
> locks speech rate?  Can anyone help me get my speech rate adjustment working 
> again?!  All help is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks 
> mooy mooy moocho!
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
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RE: Accessible smoker?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's unfortunate then that your "jokes" do at times not come across as such. 
Remember that this is email and at least you may want to use an emoji or two to 
convey extra or hidden meaning if that is what you intend. You can make your 
voice sound teasing or sarcastic, but unless you add something like a 藍 or  
emoji to indicate you are joking that may not be obvious; or at least then add 
something like "Joking aside" to your line which is meant to be the serious 
question. Anyways, I'm sure in a country like New Zealand where outdoor 
pursuits like hiking, camping, hunting and water sports are so wide spread you 
must have stores like mine who sell the gear for it.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible smoker?



Hey Dude,



I'm not knocking your product promoting,



You've got the knowledge and info on these things,



It wasn't a knock as such,

Infact I highly mean it when I say do you ship to other countries as you've got 
some interesting camping related stuff



So it wasn't meant as a dig, it was meant as a joke kind of serious.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, 7 July 2021 6:47 am

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Accessible smoker?



No, it is not, it was simply meant to describe products I have direct knowledge 
of. If this was mistaken for "self-promotion" then I'll be more careful next 
time and simply say that "I have a Louisiana Grill pellet barbecue" or that "I 
Know that there is a Bradley 10-rack professional smart smoker" instead of 
mentioning that I sell them at my store.

As for whether I sell to other countries the answer would be yes, but I doubt 
the shipping cost for a 300 pound pellet barbecue which comes in a box which is 
almost 6 feet (182 cm) long and 30 inches (75 cm) deep and wide would make this 
a viable option, products like this are better bought from a local dealer so I 
assume you would have to go to the appropriate brand website to find out if 
they are sold in your country.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty

Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 6:44 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Accessible smoker?



Sieghard

Is this self promotion for your business?



An easy way to get the word out but do you ship to other countries if Petrus or 
I were interested in buying things.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, 6 July 2021 6:46 am

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Accessible smoker?



I just started selling Louisiana Grill pellet smokers/barbecues and while I 
only just brought them in I think the app can be used. I had the sales rep at 
my store doing a demo and I had the app on my phone and I was able to adjust 
the temperature and see the target temperature as well as the current 
temperature and also the temperature of the 2 meat [probes we had connected. 
The model we used and which I will take home for myself is the Founders series 
1200 premium which is their largest size, but the app which is called SmokeIt 
works also with the Louisiana Grill Black Label series which comes in 3 sizes, 
the 800, 1000 and 1200, here in Canada they sell for $1,099, $1,199 and $1,299 
respectively.

The Founders series 1200 Premium is $1,599 Canadian and there is only one model 
above this which is the Founders series Legacy which is the same size as the 
other 1200 models, but it's all double wall stainless steel with insulation so 
it can be used even throughout the winter in colder temperatures and it also 
has a few other things included which are optional for the other grills like a 
side shelf, a griddle etc. The Black Label series grills can take up to 2 meat 
probes, the Founders series can take up to 4 and the pellet hopper on the 
Founders series is quite a bit larger than on the Black Label.

These are very good, high quality products which come with what I believe is an 
industry leading 5-year warranty and I don't think that except for the cable 
and maybe the knobs I have seen much plastic on them, it's all steel and I 
assume aluminum. Concorde Distributing which owns the Louisiana Grill brand 
also owns Pitt Boss which is their more entry level line and they also own 
Jackson Grill which are traditional propane barbecues and they also own 
BlazeKing wood stoves and several other brands.



Best 

Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Never heard of this one before.  Good luck.

On 7/9/21, Mike B  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> I just got off the phone with Apple Accessibility and they've escalated the
>
> issue, taken a screen recording and copied the phones diagnostics, so
> hopefully they'll find something simple.  This is totally weird, it happened
>
> and I wasn't even using the phone.
>
>
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2021 7:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked
>
>
> mike,
> That is a first. There is no setting like that.
> Perhaps going through the reset of your settings; but I think I'd call Apple
>
> Accessibility first. But you could reset all settings which means you will
> not lose any data, just all your settings; which can be tedious to have to
> go through.
> Maybe apple would have an easier solution.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>
>
> www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>   On Jul 9, 2021, at 4:01 AM, Mike B  wrote:
>
>
>   
>   Morning All,
>
>   I'm running iOS14.6 on an SE2020 iPhone.  I don't know what happened, but
>
> my phone was laying on my desk one minute and the next time I picked it up
> to do something or another the speech rate was faster than my default rate.
>
> No biggie right?  Well, I can't change it in Voiceover speech rate settings
>
> or from the rotor!  I rebooted the phone and I tried changing voices, but I
>
> still can't adjust my speech rate.
>
>   Did I somehow lock the voice rate setting?  Is there such a feature that
> locks speech rate?  Can anyone help me get my speech rate adjustment working
>
> again?!  All help is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks
> mooy mooy moocho!
>
>
>   Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
>   Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>
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Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

[Mike B]

Hi Richard,

I just got off the phone with Apple Accessibility and they've escalated the 
issue, taken a screen recording and copied the phones diagnostics, so 
hopefully they'll find something simple.  This is totally weird, it happened 
and I wasn't even using the phone.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2021 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked


mike,
That is a first. There is no setting like that.
Perhaps going through the reset of your settings; but I think I'd call Apple 
Accessibility first. But you could reset all settings which means you will 
not lose any data, just all your settings; which can be tedious to have to 
go through.
Maybe apple would have an easier solution.





Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com




  On Jul 9, 2021, at 4:01 AM, Mike B  wrote:


  
  Morning All,

  I'm running iOS14.6 on an SE2020 iPhone.  I don't know what happened, but 
my phone was laying on my desk one minute and the next time I picked it up 
to do something or another the speech rate was faster than my default rate. 
No biggie right?  Well, I can't change it in Voiceover speech rate settings 
or from the rotor!  I rebooted the phone and I tried changing voices, but I 
still can't adjust my speech rate.

  Did I somehow lock the voice rate setting?  Is there such a feature that 
locks speech rate?  Can anyone help me get my speech rate adjustment working 
again?!  All help is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks 
mooy mooy moocho!


  Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
  Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"


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Re: Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

[Richard Turner]

mike,
That is a first. There is no setting like that.
Perhaps going through the reset of your settings; but I think I'd call Apple 
Accessibility first. But you could reset all settings which means you will not 
lose any data, just all your settings; which can be tedious to have to go 
through.
Maybe apple would have an easier solution.



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Jul 9, 2021, at 4:01 AM, Mike B  wrote:


Morning All,

I'm running iOS14.6 on an SE2020 iPhone.  I don't know what happened, but my 
phone was laying on my desk one minute and the next time I picked it up to do 
something or another the speech rate was faster than my default rate.  No 
biggie right?  Well, I can't change it in Voiceover speech rate settings or 
from the rotor!  I rebooted the phone and I tried changing voices, but I still 
can't adjust my speech rate.

Did I somehow lock the voice rate setting?  Is there such a feature that locks 
speech rate?  Can anyone help me get my speech rate adjustment working again?!  
All help is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks mooy mooy 
moocho!


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"


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Re: question has any one come up with a cheet sheet or resorse that describes what the icons on the i phone screen meen?

[Mike B]

Check this out:

From: Rita Howells
Visual description of the icons on an Apple iOS device: Rita’s iDevice 
Advice for June 1, 2020


Master list of the icons on an Apple iOS Device

Apple’s iOS software is an extremely visual environment, with icons that 
VoiceOver has been programmed to describe. An icon is a picture or symbol on 
the
screen, used to represent an application, action, or a status message. This 
article will attempt to describe what a sighted person sees when looking at
his/her iOS and iPad OS device. Having a basic understanding of these visual 
concepts can help non sighted users explain and teach iOS to those who can
see, as well as providing an easier means by which Voiceover users and 
sighted users can relate to each other with regard to the iOS interface.

Please keep in mind that the descriptions presented in this document are 
based on initial layout, which you might see if you purchase a new iPhone or 
iPad
and set it up as new, rather than restoring from a back-up. As you, or other 
people, use your device, changes may be made, additional apps may be 
installed,
thus adding new icons, and much more. Additionally, the layout and 
descriptions presented here represent the current configuration as of iOS 13 
and iPad
OS. Much can change as new software updates are released. That said, the 
information in this document is subject to change or to be inaccurate.

General Overview:

When your Apple device is asleep, you can wake it up in one of several ways 
as described in the user guides, such as pressing the Home or Sleep/Wake 
button,
or tapping/lifting your device. You are then immediately presented with the 
Lock Screen. This screen displays a padlock icon in the center of the 
screen,
with the padlock either open or closed, depending on the current lock state 
of your device. Directly below that are the current time and date, one above
the other. This Lock Screen also displays any notifications you may have 
received while your device was asleep. Select models also display a flash 
light
icon in the bottom left, and a Camera icon in the bottom right. By default, 
devices with Face ID hide notification preview text until the device is 
unlocked.

>From here, you can place your finger on the Home Button (devices with Touch 
ID), or glance at your device (Face ID devices) to unlock your iPhone or 
iPad.
if necessary, you can slide up with one finger, using the bar at the very 
bottom center of the screen, to go Home. This places you on the Home Screen.

The Home Screen is divided into four distinct elements. These include:

- App Icons

- Page Selector

- Dock

- Status Bar

Giving special locations on the screen for the fixed elements can help 
sighted people find them.  For example, the Status Bar is at the top of the 
screen
and the Dock is the  bar with app icons across the bottom of the screen. It 
displays the same app icons, no matter which Home Screen page you are on. 
The
Page Selector is just above the Dock, and the App Icon area, located between 
the Status Bar and the Page Selector, is a grid of icons, representing all
the apps installed on your device.

The Status Bar (Top left and right of screen; not a physical bar):

Many different icons can show up on the Status Bar, depending on what 
services you have, etc. For example, an airplane icon will replace the WiFi 
icon
if your device is in airplane mode.  LTE, 3G, 4G, 5GE, or others may show up 
depending on your current cellular service. There are indicators for 
personal
hotspot, a call indicator when a call is in progress, location services 
icon, etc.

Normally on the top left side of the Status Bar, the time is in numbers, 
like a Digital readout.

Further to the right, the Cellular signal strength is represented by 
vertical bars. The stronger the signal, the more bars are represented (a 
maximum of
4 bars can show up).

To the right of that is the Wi-Fi indicator which is two downward curved 
lines pointing with a dot under the two curved lines (some people call this 
graphic
for WI-FI a Rainbow). The stronger the Wi-Fi signal, the more parts of this 
graphic appear filled in.

At the far right is the Battery indicator which is like a double A battery 
lying on its side and the center is filled with the level of charge which 
changes
as the charge is used up or replenished.

Note that the Status Bar also appears at the top of the Lock Screen.

App Icon Area:

The majority of the Home Screen is comprised of the app icon area. This is a 
grid of apps, which is laid out with usually six rows (vertically) of apps
with four apps (horizontally) in each row. Apps can be rearranged on the 
Home Screen, so that they appear in the order you prefer. You can even make 
folders
which can store numerous apps. As new apps are installed, they most commonly 
appear last on the Home Screen. When you set up a new device, all Apple apps
appear on the Home Screen first, followed by any third-party apps you may 
choose to install. 

question has any one come up with a cheet sheet or resorse that describes what the icons on the i phone screen meen?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all. Yesterday I was trying to help my Dad with his I phone he needed to
change his password on facebook after getting hacked. I tried to get vo
running but couldn't. I asked him to describe what was on the screen and he
was describing things to me that I had no idea like for instince a sercle
with a little tale on it and icons like that. then after having a chatt with
some friends they told me that the edit icon is apencel and things like
that. that got me to thinking I wonder if any one has come out with a
rezorce or cheet sheet describing what the icons on the screen are vishuley?
For instince edit equals a pencel and stuff like that since I realised that
for those of us who are blind and who use vo vo will describe the different
things as far as what they do like settings edit etc but I for one and I am
shure others have no idea that for the sighted that the icons don't say
those things and that they are pictures. So I am wondering if there is sutch
a thing out there. From Mich.

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RE: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

[Tom Rash]

Don't see it there.  No way to get this app that supposedly works now?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

It is called, Smart cooker, but I really don't think it is in the app store. 
You can look though.

Kay Malmquist
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-Aristotle.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Rash" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.


I never had the app before.  Is there a way I can get it, or if you didn't 
have it before, you can't get it?  What is it called?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

Hi,

You might need to refresh your App Store. Once you're on the updates page, 
put focus anywhere in the middle of the screen then swipe down with three 
fingers and that should refresh it and show you all of the latest updates 
that you have available. Hope that helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>
> ?I still have the old app but I don't see any update for it. I didn't
> update my phone though. I'm wondering if I have to update my phone for
> the update to appear or if my phone wasn't updated at some magic
> moment if I'll still not benefit. Sure would be ice if there was
> communication somewhere. I'm not sure if I should take the risk or
> not.
>
>> On 7/7/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> If you got rid of the app from your phone like I did, you should be
>> able to get it back as a previously purchased app. That's what I did.
>> I couldn't find it with an App Store search. But I was able to
>> re-download it because I had had it before.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Jul 7, 2021, at 2:36 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  
 wrote:
>>>
>>> ?I'm not seeing the update. Wonder if it's becuase I didn't let my
>>> phone update from when it stopped working for others? I do still
>>> have the app. I don't know how it can bet an update without being in
>>> the app store though. I guess I'll take a chance on updating the
>>> phone and see if I get the update to the app?
>>>
 On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
 I saw the update to the app on my phone this morning.  Wonder why
 they changed their minds?  Just think of all the grumbles they got
 from everyone

 that has the older pots.  It wouldn't have been just blind people
 either.

 Kay Malmquist
 kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

 We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but
 a habit.
 -Aristotle.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Penny Reeder" 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 12:29 PM
 Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.


 This is such good news! Thank you for sharing it.
 Penny

> On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> I think it is the second one from the bottom on the right hand column.
> You
>
> need to press and hold it for it to go in to pairing mode.  Hope
> this helps.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but
> a habit.
> -Aristotle.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2021 10:23 PM
> Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>
>
> Well I finally found my purchase history and I think I have
> download the correct app. Now of course, it's not connected. Can
> someone tell me please which button I have to press to make this
> happen? I don't recall.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>   On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Cristobal Munoz
> 
> wrote:
>
>
>   ?
>   I still had it on my phone. Doing a quick search in the App
> Store, it doesn't seem to come up though. I don't know if it will
> come up in the purchase history if you by any chance removed it.
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Kay Malmquist
> 
> wrote:
>
>
> ?
> Wow!  that is way cool!  Did you have to download the new app
> or did you still have the old one?
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act,
> but a habit.
> -Aristotle.
>
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Cristóbal Muñoz
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2021 9:11 PM
>   Subject: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works 

Voiceover Speech Rate is Locked

[Mike B]

Morning All,

I'm running iOS14.6 on an SE2020 iPhone.  I don't know what happened, but my 
phone was laying on my desk one minute and the next time I picked it up to 
do something or another the speech rate was faster than my default rate.  No 
biggie right?  Well, I can't change it in Voiceover speech rate settings or 
from the rotor!  I rebooted the phone and I tried changing voices, but I 
still can't adjust my speech rate.

Did I somehow lock the voice rate setting?  Is there such a feature that 
locks speech rate?  Can anyone help me get my speech rate adjustment working 
again?!  All help is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks 
mooy mooy moocho!


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

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RE: Macbook email list

[Simon A Fogarty]

What
You mean like this list which you are already subscribed to and therefore don’t 
need to resubscribe!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, 9 July 2021 6:49 pm
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Subject: Macbook email list

I have a refurbished Macbook Air on the way. can someone send me the 
subscription address for a list where I can ask questions about my new device.
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Macbook email list

[Robert Doc Wright]

I have a refurbished Macbook Air on the way. can someone send me the 
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