Re: disappearing voiceover

[Barbara Stahl]

I also either turn voiceover off and then back on again using seri or I use
a triple  finger double tap to turn the speech back on. Sometimes I have to
do that gesture a couple times before voiceover is restored.


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On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 4:46 PM Mr. Ed  wrote:

> Hi Sieghard and all,
>
> When this happens to me I turn off VO and turn it back on either by Siri
> or pressing the power button three times on my iPhone 12 to turn it off and
> on.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:41 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: disappearing voiceover
>
>
>
> I do also run into this but there is no pattern, sometimes Voiceover just
> is gone, but usually locking the phone, waiting a few seconds and then
> unlocking it makes everything normal again. I never have to reboot my phone
> in such an instance.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Donald ball
> *Sent:* July 30, 2021 8:25 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: disappearing voiceover
>
>
>
> What is happening is that you are pressing 3 fingers to the screen instead
> of 2. To restore the voice, Either,  press 3 fingers to the screen or turn
> voice over off and back on again. I guess we can fix the problem by
> changing the 3 finger gesture to something else. Maybe down the line the
> team could change it to something else that stops this from happening or we
> can be more careful.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows
>
>
>
> *From: *Jenifer Barr 
> *Sent: *Friday, July 30, 2021 10:35 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: disappearing voiceover
>
>
>
> I have the same issue... though I just turn voice-over off and back on
> again. It takes a few tries though.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:23 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Twice this evening when I ended a phone call voiceover was gone.I could
> connect my Bose frames and hear it. Audio routing did nothing. I had to
> shut the phone down and restart it to get it to work.
>
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Re: Editing Home Screen

[Dan Yates]

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick 
> down to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
> Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and 
> flick down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
> You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to 
> put the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to 
> put the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub 
> gesture, then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
> Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
> App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
> Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
> Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
> Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
> which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
> So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
> before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
> Settings which means Settings is pushed over.
> If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to 
> the right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings 
> would stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on 
> the very right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the 
> very left.
> Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
> which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
> the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
> There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
> example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
> could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default 
> name, this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put 
> focus on an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after 
> you will have an option to drop the app into the folder.
> Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go 
> to a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down 
> to where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will 
> say that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. 
> This is very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of 
> apps to the same folder.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> danneyya...@gmail.com
> Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Editing Home Screen
>  
> Hi everyone,
> I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
> having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered 
> edit mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of 
> home screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.
> I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to 
> shift back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable 
> to figure out how to move it further.
> Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
> the home screen?
> Thanks,
> Dan
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RE: Battery Issue in latest update

[danamarieleet]

I have noticed on our I Phone 8’s that if you check the battery health status, 
since the last update that it tells me and my husband and others who are 
friends of ours that they need to get their IPhone 8 batteries replaced.

Dana

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update

 

My husband and I have both noticed this behavior. He has a first generation  SE 
and I have an SE 2020 and it appears to be happening on both phones since iOS 
14 was installed.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

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justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.





On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Duane Steele mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello again, listers,

In an earlier text I mentioned my misgivings about iOS 14 which I didn't get 
around to installing till last week. If this subject has been covered before, I 
apologize. But I've noticed since updating that my phone's battery seems to 
lose its charge more quickly. Is this really happening, or am I just imagining 
it. If it's true, is there any solution? Thanks.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Battery Issue in latest update

[Kimberly]

My husband and I have both noticed this behavior. He has a first generation  SE 
and I have an SE 2020 and it appears to be happening on both phones since iOS 
14 was installed.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.

> On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello again, listers,
> 
> In an earlier text I mentioned my misgivings about iOS 14 which I didn't get 
> around to installing till last week. If this subject has been covered before, 
> I apologize. But I've noticed since updating that my phone's battery seems to 
> lose its charge more quickly. Is this really happening, or am I just 
> imagining it. If it's true, is there any solution? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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changes in drop box

[martinelson1 via VIPhone]

Hello: I have noticed after doing the most recent updates to the I phone
that changes that I made in a file in Dropbox in my computer are not being
reflected in the file in the drop box in my I phone app. Has anyone
experienced this?

Thank you.

Martin Nelson

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RE: disappearing voiceover

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Sieghard and all,

When this happens to me I turn off VO and turn it back on either by Siri or 
pressing the power button three times on my iPhone 12 to turn it off and on.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: disappearing voiceover

 

I do also run into this but there is no pattern, sometimes Voiceover just is 
gone, but usually locking the phone, waiting a few seconds and then unlocking 
it makes everything normal again. I never have to reboot my phone in such an 
instance.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
ball
Sent: July 30, 2021 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: disappearing voiceover

 

What is happening is that you are pressing 3 fingers to the screen instead of 
2. To restore the voice, Either,  press 3 fingers to the screen or turn voice 
over off and back on again. I guess we can fix the problem by changing the 3 
finger gesture to something else. Maybe down the line the team could change it 
to something else that stops this from happening or we can be more careful.

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows

 

From: Jenifer Barr  
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: disappearing voiceover

 

I have the same issue... though I just turn voice-over off and back on again. 
It takes a few tries though. 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:23 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:

 

Twice this evening when I ended a phone call voiceover was gone.I could connect 
my Bose frames and hear it. Audio routing did nothing. I had to shut the phone 
down and restart it to get it to work.

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Re: disappearing voiceover

[Anthony Vece]

When that happens to me I turn voiceover on and off with the side button

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:23 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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RE: Battery Issue in latest update

[Carolyn]

I have 14.7.1 and have not noticed any battery issues. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update

Now that you mention it, I have noticed the same thing and it did seem to start 
around the time that I installed ios 14 or at least ios 14.6. 

> On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello again, listers,
> 
> In an earlier text I mentioned my misgivings about iOS 14 which I didn't get 
> around to installing till last week. If this subject has been covered before, 
> I apologize. But I've noticed since updating that my phone's battery seems to 
> lose its charge more quickly. Is this really happening, or am I just 
> imagining it. If it's true, is there any solution? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream

[Richard Turner]

The SE 2020 does indeed have the chip.

I used the BookSense XT to record because the binaural microphone is a 3.5 MM 
jack.  The microphone has two pickups, one for each ear.
That way, what the recording picks up is exactly what I’m hearing.
I then put the Airpods Max on and used my SE 2020 to play the book and the 
music while recording onto the booksense.
Then, I trim a little off the end of the first file, and trimmed a little off 
the start of the second file.
I did n’t attempt to adjust the sound at all.
So, what you hear is what you get.

Granted, it is a microphone recording so there will be some loss of quality, 
but this way you get an idea of the effects.

I hope that came across.

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream

Hi richard,
Don’t you have a iPhone SE two? I thought that’s what you would’ve used to make 
your recordings, but according to another contributor to the thread, the SE two 
doesn’t have the requisite chip. I am thoroughly confused at this point.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 31, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Mary and all,
I recorded a couple samples of Spatial Audio using a binaural microphone.  The 
first is a sample from Voice Dream Reader.  the second is a sample from Apple 
Music's Spatial Audio of The Planets by Holst.
I suggest listening to the VDR sample first.
Voice Dream Reader with Spatial Audio:
http://www.turner42.com/01SpatialAudioVDR.mp3

The Planets:
http://www.turner42.com/02SpatialAudioThePlanetsExcert.mp3

Just be sure to have stereo headphones on while listening.

I will say I am running the iOS 15 public beta 4, but I somehow doubt that is 
the difference.  If so, you have something to look forward to; or not, this is 
all personal preference of course.

HTH,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream

Hi richard,
Well, I thought it was straight up and down. I did try re-positioning the 
headphones a few times with no change. So this is very interesting. I really 
was surprised when you said it worked at all, sense as far as I know, the 
spatial audio etc. is supposed to be on music and videos. I will be curious if 
you can repeat this.


Sent from my iPhone



On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 It is hard to know how to describe the position the headphones need to be in.
They have to be positioned just right.
Try taking them off and putting them back on in as straight up and down 
position as you can.
I'll try again later; they are on the charger right now.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com




On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Unfortunately, I deleted the thread that richard started, and now I have a 
comment on the same topic, so I hope this is the list to which his original was 
posted. I just tried voice dream reader using my 

Re: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard,
Don’t you have a iPhone SE two? I thought that’s what you would’ve used to make 
your recordings, but according to another contributor to the thread, the SE two 
doesn’t have the requisite chip. I am thoroughly confused at this point.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary and all,
> I recorded a couple samples of Spatial Audio using a binaural microphone.  
> The first is a sample from Voice Dream Reader.  the second is a sample from 
> Apple Music's Spatial Audio of The Planets by Holst.
> I suggest listening to the VDR sample first.
> Voice Dream Reader with Spatial Audio:
> http://www.turner42.com/01SpatialAudioVDR.mp3
>  
> The Planets:
> http://www.turner42.com/02SpatialAudioThePlanetsExcert.mp3
>  
> Just be sure to have stereo headphones on while listening.
>  
> I will say I am running the iOS 15 public beta 4, but I somehow doubt that is 
> the difference.  If so, you have something to look forward to; or not, this 
> is all personal preference of course.
>  
> HTH,
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream
>  
> Hi richard,
> Well, I thought it was straight up and down. I did try re-positioning the 
> headphones a few times with no change. So this is very interesting. I really 
> was surprised when you said it worked at all, sense as far as I know, the 
> spatial audio etc. is supposed to be on music and videos. I will be curious 
> if you can repeat this.
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  It is hard to know how to describe the position the headphones need to be 
> in.
> They have to be positioned just right.
> Try taking them off and putting them back on in as straight up and down 
> position as you can.
> I'll try again later; they are on the charger right now.
>  
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, I deleted the thread that richard started, and now I have a 
> comment on the same topic, so I hope this is the list to which his original 
> was posted. I just tried voice dream reader using my AirPods max, and I must 
> say I’m not getting the spatial audio affect. You know, the sound is supposed 
> to move around or something as you turn your head if your phones in the same 
> place. Anyway, that’s not happening, and it doesn’t sound any different to my 
> ears then regular audio. When I listen to a spacial audio cut with Apple 
> Music, the sound also did not move to follow my head. I do have the feature 
> turned on, accomplished by going into Bluetooth, finding the AirPods max, 
> flicking down to more info and double tapping, and going through the settings 
> there. So I am really at a loss here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Battery Issue in latest update

[Barbara Stahl]

Now that you mention it, I have noticed the same thing and it did seem to start 
around the time that I installed ios 14 or at least ios 14.6. 

> On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
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> Hello again, listers,
> 
> In an earlier text I mentioned my misgivings about iOS 14 which I didn't get 
> around to installing till last week. If this subject has been covered before, 
> I apologize. But I've noticed since updating that my phone's battery seems to 
> lose its charge more quickly. Is this really happening, or am I just 
> imagining it. If it's true, is there any solution? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
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RE: Battery Issue in latest update

[Carolyn]

Have you turned your phone off and then back on, to see if you would get back 
to normal battery usage. That can happen after an update, but shouldn't go on 
and on. 

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Duane Steele
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 12:54 PM
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Subject: Battery Issue in latest update

Hello again, listers,

In an earlier text I mentioned my misgivings about iOS 14 which I didn't get 
around to installing till last week. If this subject has been covered before, I 
apologize. But I've noticed since updating that my phone's battery seems to 
lose its charge more quickly. Is this really happening, or am I just imagining 
it. If it's true, is there any solution? Thanks.
 

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: Battery Issue in latest update

[don.moore48 via VIPhone]

What happens sometimes is that tracking is on for many applications on the 
phone, and it can be a battery drone.  Going into settings and accessing the 
settings for all your apps, turn off tracking for any of them where you don't 
really need tracking, and it'll go a long way.  Also reducing the screen 
brightness can help, although if you use the phone for stuff like boarding 
passes you need it a little brighter than you otherwise wood.  Maybe someone 
else can come other thoughts also.



-Original Message-
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Steele
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 12:54 PM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: Battery Issue in latest update

Hello again, listers,

In an earlier text I mentioned my misgivings about iOS 14 which I didn't get 
around to installing till last week. If this subject has been covered before, I 
apologize. But I've noticed since updating that my phone's battery seems to 
lose its charge more quickly. Is this really happening, or am I just imagining 
it. If it's true, is there any solution? Thanks.
 

Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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Battery Issue in latest update

[Duane Steele]

Hello again, listers,

In an earlier text I mentioned my misgivings about iOS 14 which I didn't get 
around to installing till last week. If this subject has been covered before, I 
apologize. But I've noticed since updating that my phone's battery seems to 
lose its charge more quickly. Is this really happening, or am I just imagining 
it. If it's true, is there any solution? Thanks.
 

Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Numbers aren't showing up when receiving a phone call where selecting options are required

[Arnold Schmidt]

Go to settings, phone, and where it says incoming calls, select full screen. 
That should solve your problem. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:30 PM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
wrote:

Good afternoon:
Sometimes when I'm in an app such as Bard Mobil and I get a call from a company 
where I am required to choose options with the numbers, I am unable to get to 
the numbers. The phone just remains in the Bard App. Any suggestions?   

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RE: Numbers aren't showing up when receiving a phone call where selecting options are required

[Richard Turner]

Check in the phone app settings.  The item after Notifications says: Incoming 
Calls.
That should be on Full Screen. If it is just the Banner, You won't get the 
keypad.

Once you have answered the call, there should be an icon in the upper left that 
says Call in Progress, you can double tap that to get focus on the phone app.

HTH,


Richard
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Subject: Numbers aren't showing up when receiving a phone call where selecting 
options are required

Good afternoon:
Sometimes when I'm in an app such as Bard Mobil and I get a call from a company 
where I am required to choose options with the numbers, I am unable to get to 
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Numbers aren't showing up when receiving a phone call where selecting options are required

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Good afternoon:
Sometimes when I'm in an app such as Bard Mobil and I get a call from a company 
where I am required to choose options with the numbers, I am unable to get to 
the numbers. The phone just remains in the Bard App. Any suggestions?   

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RE: Editing Home Screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick down 
to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and flick 
down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to put 
the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to put 
the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub gesture, 
then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over.
If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to the 
right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings would 
stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the very 
right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very left.
Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default name, 
this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put focus on 
an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after you will have 
an option to drop the app into the folder.
Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go to 
a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down to 
where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will say 
that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. This is 
very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of apps to 
the same folder.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen

Hi everyone,
I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.
I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable to figure 
out how to move it further.
Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
the home screen?
Thanks,
Dan
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RE: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream

[William James]

I was actually surprised it worked on my Airpods Pros last night.  I put on a 
book and put the phone down. I then walked around the house front to back and 
upstairs.  Nice!!!


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 11:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream

Hi richard,
Well, I thought it was straight up and down. I did try re-positioning the 
headphones a few times with no change. So this is very interesting. I really 
was surprised when you said it worked at all, sense as far as I know, the 
spatial audio etc. is supposed to be on music and videos. I will be curious if 
you can repeat this.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 It is hard to know how to describe the position the headphones need to be in. 
They have to be positioned just right.
Try taking them off and putting them back on in as straight up and down 
position as you can.
I'll try again later; they are on the charger right now.



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
Unfortunately, I deleted the thread that richard started, and now I have a 
comment on the same topic, so I hope this is the list to which his original was 
posted. I just tried voice dream reader using my AirPods max, and I must say 
I’m not getting the spatial audio affect. You know, the sound is supposed to 
move around or something as you turn your head if your phones in the same 
place. Anyway, that’s not happening, and it doesn’t sound any different to my 
ears then regular audio. When I listen to a spacial audio cut with Apple Music, 
the sound also did not move to follow my head. I do have the feature turned on, 
accomplished by going into Bluetooth, finding the AirPods max, flicking down to 
more info and double tapping, and going through the settings there. So I am 
really at a loss here.
Mary


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RE: Editing Home Screen

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yes. I'll be repeating some of what Richard already explained, but when you 
find the icon you want to move, flick down and double tap on edit. Now flick 
down until you hear drag and double tap. Now you can just move around your home 
pages like you normally would, exploring, swiping, three finger swipes left and 
right and so on. Once you find where you want to place the icon, flick down 
until you hear drop before or drop after and double tap. I hope that helps, but 
please ask if it doesn't make any sense.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen

On this subject, I'd like to know, when moving an icon, can I take my finger 
off the screen, then place it where I want to move the icon? I have a hard 
time, because other icons will want to move with maybe only one that I want to 
move. 

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Hi everyone,

I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.

I've tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I'm wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I'm unable to figure 
out how to move it further.

Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
the home screen?

Thanks,

Dan

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RE: disappearing voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I do also run into this but there is no pattern, sometimes Voiceover just is 
gone, but usually locking the phone, waiting a few seconds and then unlocking 
it makes everything normal again. I never have to reboot my phone in such an 
instance.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
ball
Sent: July 30, 2021 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: disappearing voiceover

What is happening is that you are pressing 3 fingers to the screen instead of 
2. To restore the voice, Either,  press 3 fingers to the screen or turn voice 
over off and back on again. I guess we can fix the problem by changing the 3 
finger gesture to something else. Maybe down the line the team could change it 
to something else that stops this from happening or we can be more careful.

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Jenifer Barr
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: disappearing voiceover

I have the same issue... though I just turn voice-over off and back on again. 
It takes a few tries though.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:23 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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Twice this evening when I ended a phone call voiceover was gone.I could connect 
my Bose frames and hear it. Audio routing did nothing. I had to shut the phone 
down and restart it to get it to work.
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RE: Editing Home Screen

[Carolyn]

On this subject, I'd like to know, when moving an icon, can I take my finger 
off the screen, then place it where I want to move the icon? I have a hard 
time, because other icons will want to move with maybe only one that I want to 
move. 

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danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen

Hi everyone,

I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.

I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable to figure 
out how to move it further.

Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
the home screen?

Thanks,

Dan

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RE: disappearing voiceover

[Carolyn]

That's what I do, turn off, then back on. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: disappearing voiceover

I have the same issue... though I just turn voice-over off and back on again. 
It takes a few tries though. 


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:23 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:



 
Twice this evening when I ended a phone call voiceover was gone.I could 
connect my Bose frames and hear it. Audio routing did nothing. I had to shut 
the phone down and restart it to get it to work.



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RE: Listening to local FM on Iphone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Whether a radio station can be streamed in apps like Tune In has nothing to do 
with the App Store or whether he is in India, but it has everything to do with 
whether the station has a livestream and apparently this station does not hence 
there is no way for it to be available for streaming online.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: July 30, 2021 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to local FM on Iphone

If he is in India, wouldn't his app store be different?  Perhaps he should do 
the search himself.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: Listening to local FM on Iphone

I tried in TuneIn Radio, iHeart radio, and My Tuner radio and none of them have 
that station.
So, it would take being close enough to use a standard FM radio.
HTH,



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Jul 30, 2021, at 1:23 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
Hi Richard,

Thank you for prompt reply.   I am trying for a station in Mumbai
India and it is called Magic 106.4 FM.  Do let me know if you can find
it.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 30/07/2021, Richard Turner  wrote:

the iPhone may have an FM chip, but Apple has never enabled it, so no, you
cannot listen that way.
However, there are a lot of apps that give access to local radio. If the
station has no internet presence at all; then they probably will not be on
any of the apps.
Is there a particular station you are trying to find?
I have severl apps and could easily check if you gave the city, state, and
call letters for the one, or ones you want.

Richard
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Hi friends,

I wisht to know if we can listen to local FM stations on Iphone if
they are not available online.  I was told that the phone does have an
FM chip.  Please do help.

Thank you.

With best wishes,

Ketan

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RE: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mary and all,
I recorded a couple samples of Spatial Audio using a binaural microphone.  The 
first is a sample from Voice Dream Reader.  the second is a sample from Apple 
Music's Spatial Audio of The Planets by Holst.
I suggest listening to the VDR sample first.
Voice Dream Reader with Spatial Audio:
http://www.turner42.com/01SpatialAudioVDR.mp3

The Planets:
http://www.turner42.com/02SpatialAudioThePlanetsExcert.mp3

Just be sure to have stereo headphones on while listening.

I will say I am running the iOS 15 public beta 4, but I somehow doubt that is 
the difference.  If so, you have something to look forward to; or not, this is 
all personal preference of course.

HTH,


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Spatial audio, AirPods max and voice dream

Hi richard,
Well, I thought it was straight up and down. I did try re-positioning the 
headphones a few times with no change. So this is very interesting. I really 
was surprised when you said it worked at all, sense as far as I know, the 
spatial audio etc. is supposed to be on music and videos. I will be curious if 
you can repeat this.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 It is hard to know how to describe the position the headphones need to be in.
They have to be positioned just right.
Try taking them off and putting them back on in as straight up and down 
position as you can.
I'll try again later; they are on the charger right now.



Richard
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On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Unfortunately, I deleted the thread that richard started, and now I have a 
comment on the same topic, so I hope this is the list to which his original was 
posted. I just tried voice dream reader using my AirPods max, and I must say 
I’m not getting the spatial audio affect. You know, the sound is supposed to 
move around or something as you turn your head if your phones in the same 
place. Anyway, that’s not happening, and it doesn’t sound any different to my 
ears then regular audio. When I listen to a spacial audio cut with Apple Music, 
the sound also did not move to follow my head. I do have the feature turned on, 
accomplished by going into Bluetooth, finding the AirPods max, flicking down to 
more info and double tapping, and going through the settings there. So I am 
really at a loss here.
Mary


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Re: disappearing voiceover

[Jenifer Barr]

I can assure you this is not the case... it happens even when I hang up using 
my headset. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2021, at 11:24 PM, Donald ball  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is happening is that you are pressing 3 fingers to the screen instead of 
> 2. To restore the voice, Either,  press 3 fingers to the screen or turn voice 
> over off and back on again. I guess we can fix the problem by changing the 3 
> finger gesture to something else. Maybe down the line the team could change 
> it to something else that stops this from happening or we can be more careful.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
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> From: Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappearing voiceover
>  
> I have the same issue... though I just turn voice-over off and back on again. 
> It takes a few tries though. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> 
> 
> Twice this evening when I ended a phone call voiceover was gone.I could 
> connect my Bose frames and hear it. Audio routing did nothing. I had to shut 
> the phone down and restart it to get it to work.
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RE: vo focus bug is back in e-mail

[davycuppens]

Hi Sieghard 

I must admit that I can confirm your behaviour form y ipad pro but sometimes I 
land on different places in my email list on my iphone 10R.
Davy 

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Verzonden: vrijdag 30 juli 2021 17:28
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Onderwerp: RE: vo focus bug is back in e-mail

I just opened 5 emails each at various places in my Inbox in both my work and 
personal accounts and each time after going back focus was still on that same 
email. Therefore I can't confirm this, maybe tell your friend to clean their 
screen, a dirty screen can cause all sorts of weird behaviour.

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A friend of mine mentioned that the focus bug is back, so if you read a 
selected mail with the iphone and than push the back button, you land on 
another place in the list of mails.

Can this be confirmed and if sop lease do all report to Apple Accessibility.
Davy 

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RE: Editing Home Screen

[Dennis Long]

This is why auto lock is important.  Hopefully get it sorted.  You should be 
able to select and drag more then 1 app at a time.

 

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Hi everyone,

I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.

I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable to figure 
out how to move it further.

Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
the home screen?

Thanks,

Dan

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