RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[Simon A Fogarty]

With luck the new curvature of the phone after sitting on it will hug the side 
of your face when you're on a call!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Sunday, 5 September 2021 9:45 pm
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

Just a curiosity I must address in this thread; how is it that one might keep 
their iPhone in his/her back pocket without risking the wreckage of same?

I myself would live in wholesale terror for fear that I might forget that my 
iPhone is in my back pocket that I might sit on it!  This would likely have the 
most unpleasant effect of reforming the iPhone such that it would no longer 
work.

Just a “tongue-in-cheek” thought.  

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RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Simon A Fogarty]

I don’t have an otter box,
But my wallet case for my 11 pro max is meant to be according to the 
manufactures wireless charging capable,

But it seems  to depend on the day as to what it does,

I normally just take the case off the phone to put it on my wireless charger.
It’s a lot easier and it works.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 6 September 2021 3:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
with wireless charging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I know it 
will work with some cases, not others.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless charging 
stand/cradle instead of a pad.
A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass in size 
and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have which I 
think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 11 on 
each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.
If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, maybe not 
45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use in my 
living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super easy 
to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the phone in 
the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to charge and if 
you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit less likely to 
pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just sitting on top of a 
round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I put it on the stand 
upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because otherwise of course it 
sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you can't plug in anything.

There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work fine and 
that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big enough for 
your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a section of 
the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the charging pad 
to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have the higher 
edges of the box holding the phone in place.


Best regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
charger.
Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.
So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info again 
on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.


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On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant 
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while using the 
wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a couple 
years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a supported 
device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I guess, the 
thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and hear via my 
earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that connects to my 
power cord, as it won’t charge.  I’d like to find another such device and 
haven’t found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the warning I used to 
get, am I better off going to Apple to get one of these or does someone have a 

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

And cold,
Bloody cold,


but hey that’s what you get when you’re in the artic circle.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 6 September 2021 3:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

No province, everything up North is the Arctic which is divided into the 3 
territories, Yukon, Northwest and Nunavut.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: September 4, 2021 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Only 4 times,

I thought for some reason it was even larger.

Which province do  all the islands come under?
Because there are a heck of a lot of them north of the main Canadian landmass.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 6:30 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above 
Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times 
the size of the UK.
But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting 
geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital 
assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil 
etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of 
course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in 
your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK 
possibly slightly larger,
Has only 5 million population.

My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at 
university here.

But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area,
And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population.
Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city,
Australia has approx. 21 million population,
Shanghi china has over that in their city.
I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people,
There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth.



But even so,

Why does toast always land buttered side down?

And if aats always land on their feet when they drop,
What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, 
buttered side up of course on the back,

Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million
The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers
That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.
Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.
All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when 

RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[Doug Sloan]

Hi

 

I also have one, my problem is the notification alert tones are very soft 
although the sounds volume is at 100% I’ve been though every settings and can’t 
find anything to fix this problem

 

Doug

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

 

 I have one. I like the size. It 
doesn’t always charge on my wireless charger which drives me batty.. and if 
anybody knows how to fix this I’d love it. Some days it charges like a champ, 
other days it says it’s charging then just quits for no reason I can figure 
out. Annoying af! 

 

 

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Paula Jordan
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 10:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

 

Still considering the Iphone mini when I finally purchase a new phone which 
will probably be in October or so. Wondering, since I’ve read that some of you 
have had one for a while, what you think of it in general, and what the battery 
life is like. Thanks for any info. You can write me off list if you like. My 
email is pau...@roadrunner.com  . Take care and 
stay safe.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Re: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like the original questioner needs to check with the friend to make 
sure that Siri has internet access.
That is the sound and message when Siri cannot get to the server; which may be 
a problem of the past once iOS 15 is out.
And, I find Alexa and Siri about equally smart or stupid depending on the day 
and how badly I want to know something.
There are plenty of examples where both of them fail miserably on what should 
be easy questions.
So, I give credit where credit is due; and/or complaints where complaints are 
due.



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On Sep 5, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Brandon A. Olivares  
wrote:

I actually disagree. Often I ask Alexa something that it doesn’t know the 
answer to, but Siri will get the answer without issue. So I’ve always seen Siri 
as more competent than Alexa.

On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I think it would be a good idea to cut Apple a bit of slack until a few weeks 
after iOS 15 is released. I am often first to point out how stupid SIRI can 
sometimes be especially after being around for such a long time and compared to 
Google Assistant and Alexa which are both a lot younger.
However, a lot more SIRI functionality will be done on device after iOS 15 is 
released although I assume you need a recent model of iPhone which has the 
processing power for this, but if you have whichever phone model has the 
minimum requirement for this one would hope that SIRI becomes a lot more 
responsive if not everything has to be sent to the cloud for processing.

-Original Message-
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Weitzel
Sent: September 5, 2021 8:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

If as you say " He has done all things you maybe want to propose" then why did 
you post this, not much point in proposing anything if it's already been done.

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Sent: September 4, 2021 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

Hi folks

Whent that friend pushes his side button he hears a high and low sound and 
something went wrong try again later.

He has done all things you maybe want to propose, putting off and on his iphone 
doing a hard reset but nothing helps.

There is no overall problem with siri because his wife sitting next to him has 
no problem with her iphone 11 he also has an iphone 11 pro.
Davy

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RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Carolyn]

Yes I put mine on a wireless charger, but if I want to use it for any reason, I 
can use my earbuds. The earbuds work better for phone calls rather than for 
checking weather, messages, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Hey Arnold; when you use wired AirPods if you could if you have it just use a 
MagSafe charger. I useit all the time and it works well.  Hope this helps  
Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:




Or ask google, which is what I should have done in the first lace. 
Allegedly, it is compatible with wireless charging.  

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


 

This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
with wireless charging.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I 
know it will work with some cases, not others. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless 
charging stand/cradle instead of a pad.

A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass 
in size and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have 
which I think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 
11 on each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.

If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, 
maybe not 45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use 
in my living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super 
easy to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the phone 
in the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to charge and if 
you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit less likely to 
pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just sitting on top of a 
round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I put it on the stand 
upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because otherwise of course it 
sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you can't plug in anything.

 

There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work 
fine and that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big 
enough for your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a 
section of the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the 
charging pad to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have 
the higher edges of the box holding the phone in place.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive 
wireless charger. 

Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, 
I'd go that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.

So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the 
info again on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading 

RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Carolyn]

Oh, I charge my phone a lot and talk o it or use it by using wired earbuds. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Or ask google, which is what I should have done in the first lace. Allegedly, 
it is compatible with wireless charging.  

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


 

This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
with wireless charging.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I know it 
will work with some cases, not others. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless charging 
stand/cradle instead of a pad.

A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass in size 
and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have which I 
think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 11 on 
each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.

If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, maybe not 
45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use in my 
living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super easy 
to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the phone in 
the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to charge and if 
you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit less likely to 
pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just sitting on top of a 
round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I put it on the stand 
upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because otherwise of course it 
sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you can't plug in anything.

 

There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work fine and 
that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big enough for 
your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a section of 
the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the charging pad 
to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have the higher 
edges of the box holding the phone in place.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

 

My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
charger. 

Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.

So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info again 
on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

 

On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> > wrote:

 

I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while 
using the wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a 
couple years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a 
supported device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I 
guess, the thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and hear 
via my earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that connects to 
my power cord, as it won’t charge.  I’d like to find another such device and 
haven’t found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the warning I used 

iPhone case [was "RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

I’m kind of curious about this case of yours Sieghard. Do you keep the phone in 
it all of the time or just slip it into this case when you’re taking it out and 
about with you? Is it easy to slip in and out of the case? Could you give us 
the name of the case, or even better yet, give us a link to learn more about 
this case? Thanks Sieghard!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini


Christopher, maybe it depends on who sits on it 

I personally can't stand having any size  iPhone in my front jeans pockets, 
it's OK in the back pocket, but I only do that sometimes in the house when I am 
doing stuff and not sitting down. Otherwise I prefer a belt holster and the one 
I currently have is nice because you can even use it without the belt because 
the belt loop so to speak closes with a super strong magnet so I can even put 
it inside the waist of a pair of jeans or shorts or whatever and the rare earth 
magnet they use is so strong that it clamps together with the fabric in between 
no problem.

The case is a very good quality leather with a small compartment in front of 
the main phone compartment where you can put a credit card, cash or even a 
rolled up set of wired Earbuds and it's by a company called Waterfield Design 
in San Francisco I think. It is made in the US and hence quite expensive, I 
think it was $89 US, but for me it's worth it.

It has a cut-out in the bottom where you can plug in wired Earpods when the 
phone is in the case, but since my iPhone 11 fits inside the case with a 
minimal case on it with a bit of friction I often just fold the leather flap 
back and stick it behind my belt and this way I can put the iPhone in upside 
down and plug in my Earpods.

The flap if you close it is also held in place with a magnet. It's a very high 
quality and well-made case, but as I said, not cheap. On the other hand I used 
to buy these cases with a plastic swivel belt clip and several time when I got 
caught on something the belt clip broke and by the time I bought my third or 
fourth of these cheaper cases I might as well have bought that one.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: September 5, 2021 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini



Well, I don't think an iPhone will be damaged if it's in your back pocket and 
you sit on it. Plus, I think you'll notice it pretty quickly once you sit down, 
so you can retrieve it before it takes too much of a prolonged strain. All that 
being said, if you're worried about it then just don't ever put it in your back 
pocket.



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-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik

Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 4:45 AM

To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini



Just a curiosity I must address in this thread; how is it that one might keep 
their iPhone in his/her back pocket without risking the wreckage of same?



I myself would live in wholesale terror for fear that I might forget that my 
iPhone is in my back pocket that I might sit on it!  This would likely have the 
most unpleasant effect of reforming the iPhone such that it would no longer 
work.



Just a “tongue-in-cheek” thought.  



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Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[Kelly Pierce]

I want to clear up some confusion about the supposed terrible battery
on the iPhone Mini.  It is better than earlier iPhones.  The iPhone 12
Mini has a battery capacity of 2200 MAH with 15 hours of video
playback and 50 hours of audio playback. The iPhone 7 released in 2016
had a battery capacity of 1960 mAH and 13 hours of video playback and
40 hours of audio playback. the iPhone 8 released in 2017 had 1821 mAH
and also had 13 hours of video playback and 40 hours of audio
playback.  The same battery life of the iPhone 8 applies to the iPhone
SE, second generation available in stores now.

I have an iPhone 7 bought in October 2016 and have not yet replaced
the battery. I can still get through most of the day with it,
considering I have the screen on zero brightness, force quit most of
my apps, and have limited active use.  For those worried about battery
life, apply battery conservation measures.

Kelly




On 9/5/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> I have always bought battery cases for all my phones.  My favorite business
>
> is currently Power Plus cases.  Their cases are good quality and long
> lasting.  I do have a Mini and the battery life doesn't bother me, even
> though my phone gets a lot of use.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2021 12:30 AM
> Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>
>
> I would never  get an iPhone 12 mini because of the poor battery life.
> I listen to a lot of audio books and music, so I need a very good
> battery.  Turning off my screen with screen curtain on, really does
> help prolong my battery life.  I can tell a difference if I accidently
> keep the screencurtain off.
>
> On 9/4/21, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> Sandra, I think they do have the dotted overlays.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Sandra Streeter
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> One more thing-does AT Guys have a dotted overlay for it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sandra
>>>
>>> Some of life's journeys must be undertaken alone, but no open highway
>>> can
>>> soothe a battered soul like the open hearts of caring people.
>>> (Neil Peart, of the band Rush)
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Dan
>>> Yates
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 03:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>>>
>>> I have had mine for over six months and I am very pleased with it. Size
>>> makes it very easy to stick into my back pocket. The charging on
>>> wireless
>>> charger works fine for me with no issues. The battery is, as has already
>>> been said, Soso, but not a dealbreaker for me, really like mine.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:41 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> It's possible that your phone is moving from the coil
>>> I know my wifi charger is on a slight angle and the phone can slide off
>>> the charger slightly.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 3:45 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>>>
>>> It probably stops because you may bump or move it a bit so it's not
>>> aligned correctly with the charging coyles in the pad.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Star Gazer
>>> Sent: September 3, 2021 7:52 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>>>
>>>  I have one. I like the
>>> size.
>>> It doesn't always charge on my wireless charger which drives me batty..
>>> and if anybody knows how to fix this I'd love it. Some days it charges
>>> like a champ, other days it says it's charging then just quits for no
>>> reason I can figure out. Annoying af!
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Paula Jordan
>>> Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 10:49 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>>>
>>> Still considering the Iphone mini when I finally purchase a new phone
>>> which will probably be in October or so. Wondering, since I've read that
>>> some of you have had one for a while, what you think of it in general,
>>> and
>>> what the battery life is like. Thanks for any info. You can write me off
>>> list if you like. My email is pau...@roadrunner.com. Take care and stay
>>> safe.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and the pups
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RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Christopher, maybe it depends on who sits on it 

I personally can't stand having any size  iPhone in my front jeans pockets, 
it's OK in the back pocket, but I only do that sometimes in the house when I am 
doing stuff and not sitting down. Otherwise I prefer a belt holster and the one 
I currently have is nice because you can even use it without the belt because 
the belt loop so to speak closes with a super strong magnet so I can even put 
it inside the waist of a pair of jeans or shorts or whatever and the rare earth 
magnet they use is so strong that it clamps together with the fabric in between 
no problem.

The case is a very good quality leather with a small compartment in front of 
the main phone compartment where you can put a credit card, cash or even a 
rolled up set of wired Earbuds and it's by a company called Waterfield Design 
in San Francisco I think. It is made in the US and hence quite expensive, I 
think it was $89 US, but for me it's worth it.

It has a cut-out in the bottom where you can plug in wired Earpods when the 
phone is in the case, but since my iPhone 11 fits inside the case with a 
minimal case on it with a bit of friction I often just fold the leather flap 
back and stick it behind my belt and this way I can put the iPhone in upside 
down and plug in my Earpods.

The flap if you close it is also held in place with a magnet. It's a very high 
quality and well-made case, but as I said, not cheap. On the other hand I used 
to buy these cases with a plastic swivel belt clip and several time when I got 
caught on something the belt clip broke and by the time I bought my third or 
fourth of these cheaper cases I might as well have bought that one.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: September 5, 2021 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini



Well, I don't think an iPhone will be damaged if it's in your back pocket and 
you sit on it. Plus, I think you'll notice it pretty quickly once you sit down, 
so you can retrieve it before it takes too much of a prolonged strain. All that 
being said, if you're worried about it then just don't ever put it in your back 
pocket.



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-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik

Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 4:45 AM

To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini



Just a curiosity I must address in this thread; how is it that one might keep 
their iPhone in his/her back pocket without risking the wreckage of same?



I myself would live in wholesale terror for fear that I might forget that my 
iPhone is in my back pocket that I might sit on it!  This would likely have the 
most unpleasant effect of reforming the iPhone such that it would no longer 
work.



Just a “tongue-in-cheek” thought.  



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RE: Is there a way to get recent calls on an iPhone in a more permanent way?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you take a screenshot you then have an image which at best you can read by 
doing some sort of OCR on it.
Anyways, calls do not drop out of recent call list, but they are not visible 
after you have 100 calls in the list, but if you delete calls they show up 
again.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: September 4, 2021 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is there a way to get recent calls on an iPhone in a more 
permanent way?

Hi Kevin,

Can you go to the recent tab in the phone app,

And under the all recent calls
Possibly take a screen shot of the call log which will be a photo in your 
library.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 2:39 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is there a way to get recent calls on an iPhone in a more permanent 
way?

Hi.

A few days ago, I received some calls. They’re from different numbers, but they 
all concern the same thing. I’m starting to put pieces together, and I’m 
beginning to think I might want a permanent record of these numbers and the 
time and date stamp on them. Is there a way to do this from recent calls? I’d 
like to do this sooner than later, because they’ll eventually drop out of there.

Just wondering.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
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RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think Arnold specified which iPhone he has and for MagSafe you need at 
least an iPhone 12 so not point in spending the money for a MagSafe charger if 
he has an iPhone 11 or older.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: September 5, 2021 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Hey Arnold; when you use wired AirPods if you could if you have it just use a 
MagSafe charger. I useit all the time and it works well.  Hope this helps  
Anthony
Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
Or ask google, which is what I should have done in the first lace. Allegedly, 
it is compatible with wireless charging.

Arnold Schmidt
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
with wireless charging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I know it 
will work with some cases, not others.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless charging 
stand/cradle instead of a pad.
A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass in size 
and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have which I 
think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 11 on 
each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.
If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, maybe not 
45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use in my 
living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super easy 
to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the phone in 
the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to charge and if 
you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit less likely to 
pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just sitting on top of a 
round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I put it on the stand 
upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because otherwise of course it 
sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you can't plug in anything.

There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work fine and 
that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big enough for 
your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a section of 
the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the charging pad 
to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have the higher 
edges of the box holding the phone in place.


Best regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
charger.
Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.
So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info again 
on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant 
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while using the 
wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a couple 
years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a supported 
device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I guess, the 
thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and hear via my 
earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part 

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And about 20 years ago I was engaged to a lovely Russian girl from the city of 
Ekaterinburg in western Siberia. We met online and I went there and one of the 
"attractions" of the area (an hour or so drive west of the city) is the border 
between Europe and Asia. Her Dad took us there and you can stand across the 
official line with one foot in Europe and the other in Asia. It was a pretty 
long flight, first almost 10 hours from Vancouver to Frankfurt and then after a 
couple of hours layover another 5 hours flight from Frankfurt to Ekaterinburg.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: September 4, 2021 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Ukraine is in Europe and was in the western part of the Soviet Union, but 
Russia is also in Europe. In fact, it's the largest and most populous country 
in Europe, and this is just counting the European part of Russia. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia

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Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Yeah but the western side if I remember correctly is the eukrane,

I know in the communist days it crossed through 13 of the 24 time zones.

Crazy big place.
And they have even less population than canda  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 1:50 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's 
still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the 
Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist 
countrys etc breaking away?

But also interestingly 
China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

According to 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5f0e206b8f3f43fc582108d96f4804a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663177393912114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=lCILPu6F6cs2qxpyEttlXJg0%2FRFoCeOWyGGPDSx2TDg%3Dreserved=0
1. Russia
2. Canada
3. China
4. United States
5. Brazil
6. Australia
7. India

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly 

Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Anthony Vece]

Hey Arnold; when you use wired AirPods if you could if you have it just use a 
MagSafe charger. I useit all the time and it works well.  Hope this helps  
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Or ask google, which is what I should have done in the first lace. 
> Allegedly, it is compatible with wireless charging.  
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
> manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
> with wireless charging.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
>  
> Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I know 
> it will work with some cases, not others. 
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
>  
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless charging 
> stand/cradle instead of a pad.
> A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass in size 
> and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have which I 
> think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 11 on 
> each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.
> If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, maybe 
> not 45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use in 
> my living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super 
> easy to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the 
> phone in the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to 
> charge and if you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit 
> less likely to pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just 
> sitting on top of a round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I 
> put it on the stand upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because 
> otherwise of course it sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you 
> can't plug in anything.
>  
> There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work fine 
> and that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big enough 
> for your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a section 
> of the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the charging 
> pad to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have the 
> higher edges of the box holding the phone in place.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
>  
> Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
> charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, 
> I had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
> approach.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
>  
> My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
> charger.
> Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
> that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.
> So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info 
> again on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> 
> On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while using the 
> wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a couple 
> years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a 
> supported device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I 
> guess, the thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and 
> hear via my earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that 
> connects to my power cord, as it won’t charge.  I’d like to find another such 
> device and haven’t found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the 
> warning I used to get, am I better off going to Apple to get one of these or 
> does someone have a recommendation of one I can get. Heck, I’d probably get a 
> couple so I can leave them near each of my various power 

Re: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

[Brandon A. Olivares]

I actually disagree. Often I ask Alexa something that it doesn’t know the 
answer to, but Siri will get the answer without issue. So I’ve always seen Siri 
as more competent than Alexa.

> On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think it would be a good idea to cut Apple a bit of slack until a few weeks 
> after iOS 15 is released. I am often first to point out how stupid SIRI can 
> sometimes be especially after being around for such a long time and compared 
> to Google Assistant and Alexa which are both a lot younger.
> However, a lot more SIRI functionality will be done on device after iOS 15 is 
> released although I assume you need a recent model of iPhone which has the 
> processing power for this, but if you have whichever phone model has the 
> minimum requirement for this one would hope that SIRI becomes a lot more 
> responsive if not everything has to be sent to the cloud for processing.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 5, 2021 8:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine
> 
> If as you say " He has done all things you maybe want to propose" then why 
> did you post this, not much point in proposing anything if it's already been 
> done.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: September 4, 2021 6:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine
> 
> Hi folks 
> 
> Whent that friend pushes his side button he hears a high and low sound and 
> something went wrong try again later.
> 
> He has done all things you maybe want to propose, putting off and on his 
> iphone doing a hard reset but nothing helps. 
> 
> There is no overall problem with siri because his wife sitting next to him 
> has no problem with her iphone 11 he also has an iphone 11 pro.
> Davy 
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RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No province, everything up North is the Arctic which is divided into the 3 
territories, Yukon, Northwest and Nunavut.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: September 4, 2021 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Only 4 times,

I thought for some reason it was even larger.

Which province do  all the islands come under?
Because there are a heck of a lot of them north of the main Canadian landmass.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 6:30 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above 
Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times 
the size of the UK.
But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting 
geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital 
assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil 
etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of 
course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in 
your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK 
possibly slightly larger,
Has only 5 million population.

My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at 
university here.

But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area,
And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population.
Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city,
Australia has approx. 21 million population,
Shanghi china has over that in their city.
I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people,
There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth.



But even so,

Why does toast always land buttered side down?

And if aats always land on their feet when they drop,
What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, 
buttered side up of course on the back,

Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million
The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers
That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.
Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.
All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here.
I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: 

Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Arnold Schmidt]

Or ask google, which is what I should have done in the first lace. Allegedly, 
it is compatible with wireless charging.  

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
with wireless charging.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
 
Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I know it 
will work with some cases, not others. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless charging 
stand/cradle instead of a pad.
A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass in size 
and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have which I 
think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 11 on 
each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.
If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, maybe not 
45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use in my 
living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super easy 
to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the phone in 
the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to charge and if 
you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit less likely to 
pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just sitting on top of a 
round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I put it on the stand 
upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because otherwise of course it 
sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you can't plug in anything.
 
There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work fine and 
that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big enough for 
your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a section of 
the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the charging pad 
to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have the higher 
edges of the box holding the phone in place.
 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
 
Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
 
My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
charger.
Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.
So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info again 
on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.
 

 
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 
  
 
 
 
 
website:  www.turner42.com
 
 

On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:


I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while using the 
wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a couple 
years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a supported 
device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I guess, the 
thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and hear via my 
earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that connects to my 
power cord, as it won’t charge.  I’d like to find another such device and 
haven’t found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the warning I used to 
get, am I better off going to Apple to get one of these or does someone have a 
recommendation of one I can get. Heck, I’d probably get a couple so I can leave 
them near each of my various power cords.   Using an iPhone SE 2020.
 
 
Robin
 
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RE: Sharing Prime membership

[Sieghard Weitzel]

One must also keep in mind that in many other countries, Canada included, the 
household setting and sharing of a prime membership are not available, at least 
not yet.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: September 4, 2021 4:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sharing Prime membership

Don't feel bad! I didn't even click in my brain that you answered me for Family 
sharing! Maybe something in the air.

thank you, though. This is good information to keep on hand.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Donna Casteen
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2021 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Sharing Prime membership

Oops! Jenny you are correct. For some reason my ears kept hearing sharing 
amazon music. Guess men aren't the only ones who have selective hearing after 
all. LOL!

Donna


Hi,

I think she is asking about a totally different product. I don’t think she is 
asking about family sharing on Apple. She is wanting to share Amazon Prime. I 
wish i had an answer, but if you want, i can post the accessibility number for 
Amazon here and you can give them a call.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On Sep 3, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:

Can I access this same thing through the computer or will doing it on the phone 
take care of it there as well?

Thanks.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Donna Casteen
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2021 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Sharing Prime membership

Open settings, at the top is your name,  apple ID, icloud, media & purchhases, 
tap on this. Swipe down to Family sharing & tap to open. A list of those whom 
you are sharing services with are there. Can't recall if you swipe or tap on 
the name to rremove.

Donna

Hi,

I have family members sharing my Amazon Prime and I need to remove one and add 
another. It used to be very easy to do that, but I can't locate the area to 
make the change. I've looked under my Prime settings, but unless I'm missing 
it, it isn't there. Does anyone know where to locate the information for 
removing and adding members to your Family Prime membership?

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think it would be a good idea to cut Apple a bit of slack until a few weeks 
after iOS 15 is released. I am often first to point out how stupid SIRI can 
sometimes be especially after being around for such a long time and compared to 
Google Assistant and Alexa which are both a lot younger.
However, a lot more SIRI functionality will be done on device after iOS 15 is 
released although I assume you need a recent model of iPhone which has the 
processing power for this, but if you have whichever phone model has the 
minimum requirement for this one would hope that SIRI becomes a lot more 
responsive if not everything has to be sent to the cloud for processing.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 5, 2021 8:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

If as you say " He has done all things you maybe want to propose" then why did 
you post this, not much point in proposing anything if it's already been done.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 4, 2021 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

Hi folks 

Whent that friend pushes his side button he hears a high and low sound and 
something went wrong try again later.

He has done all things you maybe want to propose, putting off and on his iphone 
doing a hard reset but nothing helps. 

There is no overall problem with siri because his wife sitting next to him has 
no problem with her iphone 11 he also has an iphone 11 pro.
Davy 

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RE: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If as you say " He has done all things you maybe want to propose" then why did 
you post this, not much point in proposing anything if it's already been done.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: siri is nolonger working for a friend of mine

Hi folks 

Whent that friend pushes his side button he hears a high and low sound and 
something went wrong try again later.

He has done all things you maybe want to propose, putting off and on his iphone 
doing a hard reset but nothing helps. 

There is no overall problem with siri because his wife sitting next to him has 
no problem with her iphone 11 he also has an iphone 11 pro.
Davy 

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RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
with wireless charging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I know it 
will work with some cases, not others.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless charging 
stand/cradle instead of a pad.
A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass in size 
and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have which I 
think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 11 on 
each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.
If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, maybe not 
45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use in my 
living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super easy 
to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the phone in 
the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to charge and if 
you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit less likely to 
pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just sitting on top of a 
round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I put it on the stand 
upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because otherwise of course it 
sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you can't plug in anything.

There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work fine and 
that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big enough for 
your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a section of 
the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the charging pad 
to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have the higher 
edges of the box holding the phone in place.


Best regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, I 
had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
approach.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
charger.
Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.
So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info again 
on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant 
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:

I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while using the 
wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a couple 
years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a supported 
device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I guess, the 
thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and hear via my 
earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that connects to my 
power cord, as it won’t charge.  I’d like to find another such device and 
haven’t found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the warning I used to 
get, am I better off going to Apple to get one of these or does someone have a 
recommendation of one I can get. Heck, I’d probably get a couple so I can leave 
them near each of my various power cords.   Using an iPhone SE 2020.


Robin

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RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, I don't think an iPhone will be damaged if it's in your back pocket and 
you sit on it. Plus, I think you'll notice it pretty quickly once you sit down, 
so you can retrieve it before it takes too much of a prolonged strain. All that 
being said, if you're worried about it then just don't ever put it in your back 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 4:45 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

Just a curiosity I must address in this thread; how is it that one might keep 
their iPhone in his/her back pocket without risking the wreckage of same?

I myself would live in wholesale terror for fear that I might forget that my 
iPhone is in my back pocket that I might sit on it!  This would likely have the 
most unpleasant effect of reforming the iPhone such that it would no longer 
work.

Just a “tongue-in-cheek” thought.  

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RE: Is there a way to get recent calls on an iPhone in a more permanent way?

[Carolyn]

Each recent call has a time, and I think date too on it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 7:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a way to get recent calls on an iPhone in a more 
permanent way?

You can request a paper copy of all calls to your number for each month for as 
long as you need the info. I say print copy, because I can't read braille yet. 
There is a charge. This type of info would be more acceptable in a court 
setting if needed.

Donna



On Sep 3, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:



 

Hi.

 

A few days ago, I received some calls. They’re from different numbers, 
but they all concern the same thing. I’m starting to put pieces together, and 
I’m beginning to think I might want a permanent record of these numbers and the 
time and date stamp on them. Is there a way to do this from recent calls? I’d 
like to do this sooner than later, because they’ll eventually drop out of there.

 

Just wondering.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly



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Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[Kay Malmquist]

I have always bought battery cases for all my phones.  My favorite business 
is currently Power Plus cases.  Their cases are good quality and long 
lasting.  I do have a Mini and the battery life doesn't bother me, even 
though my phone gets a lot of use.

Kay Malmquist
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Bob Proctor

- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2021 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini


I would never  get an iPhone 12 mini because of the poor battery life.
I listen to a lot of audio books and music, so I need a very good
battery.  Turning off my screen with screen curtain on, really does
help prolong my battery life.  I can tell a difference if I accidently
keep the screencurtain off.

On 9/4/21, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> Sandra, I think they do have the dotted overlays.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 4, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Sandra Streeter 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> One more thing-does AT Guys have a dotted overlay for it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>> Some of life's journeys must be undertaken alone, but no open highway can
>> soothe a battered soul like the open hearts of caring people.
>> (Neil Peart, of the band Rush)
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Dan
>> Yates
>> Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 03:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>>
>> I have had mine for over six months and I am very pleased with it. Size
>> makes it very easy to stick into my back pocket. The charging on wireless
>> charger works fine for me with no issues. The battery is, as has already
>> been said, Soso, but not a dealbreaker for me, really like mine.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:41 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> It's possible that your phone is moving from the coil
>> I know my wifi charger is on a slight angle and the phone can slide off
>> the charger slightly.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 3:45 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>>
>> It probably stops because you may bump or move it a bit so it's not
>> aligned correctly with the charging coyles in the pad.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Star Gazer
>> Sent: September 3, 2021 7:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>>
>>  I have one. I like the size.
>> It doesn't always charge on my wireless charger which drives me batty..
>> and if anybody knows how to fix this I'd love it. Some days it charges
>> like a champ, other days it says it's charging then just quits for no
>> reason I can figure out. Annoying af!
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Paula Jordan
>> Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 10:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: !those who have IPhone 12 mini
>>
>> Still considering the Iphone mini when I finally purchase a new phone
>> which will probably be in October or so. Wondering, since I've read that
>> some of you have had one for a while, what you think of it in general, 
>> and
>> what the battery life is like. Thanks for any info. You can write me off
>> list if you like. My email is pau...@roadrunner.com. Take care and stay
>> safe.
>> God bless!
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Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[Bill Gallik]

Just a curiosity I must address in this thread; how is it that one might keep 
their iPhone in his/her back pocket without risking the wreckage of same?

I myself would live in wholesale terror for fear that I might forget that my 
iPhone is in my back pocket that I might sit on it!  This would likely have the 
most unpleasant effect of reforming the iPhone such that it would no longer 
work.

Just a “tongue-in-cheek” thought.  

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mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

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