Ability to subscribe to a magazine through an Iphone app accessibly

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi friends,

There are some apps such as Magzster that enable us to subscribe to
magazines but they are totally inaccessible.  So, I am wondering if
there is any app that allows us to subscribe to various magazines.  I
am in India and both Bookshare and Apple news are not available to me
for this purpose.  Please do help if anyone knows about this.

With best wishes,

Ketan

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Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Mary Otten]

Well, I just double checked in my phone. Two factor is on, which I already knew 
but I checked it anyway. And messages is also on according to how you check it 
in that article that you sent. It’s just not working right. I have storage 
space left. Very bizarre and annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Barry Abbott  wrote:
> 
> 
> I found out how  to turn on iCloud Sync ifromthe iMore web site. Essentially 
> what you have to do first is turn on apple two factor authentication and then 
> once you have that done you go into your Apple ID again, then iCloud and 
> check the apps which are turned on or off. In my case my messages app  was 
> off even though I already had two factor authentication on. I will paste the 
> link below.
> 
> https://www.imore.com/how-turn-messages-icloud
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> I saw that too, but after playing around with that mirror my iPhone toggle, 
>> it just refers to mirroring your message notification settings and not the 
>> messages themselves.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barry 
>> Abbott
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>> watch or on the phone?
>> 
>> I checked my Apple Watch settings and I have messages set to mirror my 
>> iPhone. This would lead me to believe that when you delete a message from 
>> your iPhone it should delete that message from your watch but no, this does 
>> not work. I even went into the settings on my watch and although I could see 
>> other apps for some reason I could not see the messages app.
>> 
>> Very strange!
>> 
>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable 
>>> to find that setting. Thank you in advance
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>>> 
> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
 To: via VIPhone ; 
 watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
 Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
 watch or on the phone?
 
 I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw 
 WWDC Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing 
 said about this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about 
 stuff Apple didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be 
 extremely annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone 
 and who gets messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations 
 not just once on whichever device you used to read it initially, but 
 again, on your other device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get 
 boatloads of texts every day like some people do. Am I missing something? 
 Surely, there should be a way where if you delete something on one of your 
 devices such as a text message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems 
 elementary.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

This is the real world application drawback for us. For sighted folks, it’s no 
big deal as they can just at a glance see in the notification screen capture or 
check the history if it was an Amazon or UPS driver doing a tuck and roll 
delivery which often it can be. Very rarely does anyone hang around after 
ringing the doorbell anymore

I’ve had a sign at my front door for years saying “no surveys, cermons or 
solicitations” which has thankfully cut down on most of the unwanted traffic to 
my doorbell.

In practicle terms though, the Ring doesn’t really add that much to the blind 
user experience in my oppinion at least. Mainly for the reasons mentioned 
above. It’s still good to have should something shady were to ever go down and 
have a record of it. The most exciting thing we ever captured was I think a 
bird of prey totally annihilating a dove or some small bird on our front lawn 
in the early morning.

Every blue moon I’ll still get a persistent solicitor or someone who wants to 
save my soul though and that’s when I appreciate having something like the 
Ring. Please read the sign. Thank you, but no. We’re not interested. Again, no. 
Dude… can’t you read?  Please leave. I’m not opening the door. Beat it. Now. 
Lady, get lost. We’re not buying what you’re selling. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: Marty  
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:58 PM
To: Cristobal Muñoz 
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

I wonder why Apple hasn't come up with the iBell or some such that functions 
like Facetime.  This would be a doorbell device that when pressed, your phone 
rings and you answer it like answering a call.  I have an Amcrest Smart 
doorbell and the ap is so inconvenient that by the time I get through the 
screens to answer the doorbell, the person has left.  the Amcrest was supposed 
to have a desktop version that I would be able to answer my door on my 
computer, but it is totally inaccessible.

On 6/13/2022 10:00 AM, Cristobal Muñoz wrote:

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

 

Keep us updated.

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Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Barry Abbott]

Final note. I was able to go back into the message settings and reset the 
deletion period to 30 days.

Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 9:57 PM, Barry Abbott  wrote:
> 
> 
> I found out how  to turn on iCloud Sync ifromthe iMore web site. Essentially 
> what you have to do first is turn on apple two factor authentication and then 
> once you have that done you go into your Apple ID again, then iCloud and 
> check the apps which are turned on or off. In my case my messages app  was 
> off even though I already had two factor authentication on. I will paste the 
> link below.
> 
> https://www.imore.com/how-turn-messages-icloud
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> I saw that too, but after playing around with that mirror my iPhone toggle, 
>> it just refers to mirroring your message notification settings and not the 
>> messages themselves.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barry 
>> Abbott
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>> watch or on the phone?
>> 
>> I checked my Apple Watch settings and I have messages set to mirror my 
>> iPhone. This would lead me to believe that when you delete a message from 
>> your iPhone it should delete that message from your watch but no, this does 
>> not work. I even went into the settings on my watch and although I could see 
>> other apps for some reason I could not see the messages app.
>> 
>> Very strange!
>> 
>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable 
>>> to find that setting. Thank you in advance
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>>> 
> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
 To: via VIPhone ; 
 watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
 Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
 watch or on the phone?
 
 I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw 
 WWDC Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing 
 said about this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about 
 stuff Apple didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be 
 extremely annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone 
 and who gets messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations 
 not just once on whichever device you used to read it initially, but 
 again, on your other device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get 
 boatloads of texts every day like some people do. Am I missing something? 
 Surely, there should be a way where if you delete something on one of your 
 devices such as a text message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems 
 elementary.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Barry Abbott]

A cautionary note.

It is working but I seem to have retrieved an an awful lot of messages. When I 
first started it it said the messages would be safe forever until you delete 
them. Once I started deleting them it gave me the message that it would be 
deleted from all devices. So it may be a bit of a headache at first but once I 
get rid of the messages hopefully I won’t be able to delete them as they come 
through. Hope this helps. 

Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 9:57 PM, Barry Abbott  wrote:
> 
> 
> I found out how  to turn on iCloud Sync ifromthe iMore web site. Essentially 
> what you have to do first is turn on apple two factor authentication and then 
> once you have that done you go into your Apple ID again, then iCloud and 
> check the apps which are turned on or off. In my case my messages app  was 
> off even though I already had two factor authentication on. I will paste the 
> link below.
> 
> https://www.imore.com/how-turn-messages-icloud
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> I saw that too, but after playing around with that mirror my iPhone toggle, 
>> it just refers to mirroring your message notification settings and not the 
>> messages themselves.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barry 
>> Abbott
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>> watch or on the phone?
>> 
>> I checked my Apple Watch settings and I have messages set to mirror my 
>> iPhone. This would lead me to believe that when you delete a message from 
>> your iPhone it should delete that message from your watch but no, this does 
>> not work. I even went into the settings on my watch and although I could see 
>> other apps for some reason I could not see the messages app.
>> 
>> Very strange!
>> 
>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable 
>>> to find that setting. Thank you in advance
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>>> 
> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
 To: via VIPhone ; 
 watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
 Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
 watch or on the phone?
 
 I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw 
 WWDC Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing 
 said about this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about 
 stuff Apple didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be 
 extremely annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone 
 and who gets messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations 
 not just once on whichever device you used to read it initially, but 
 again, on your other device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get 
 boatloads of texts every day like some people do. Am I missing something? 
 Surely, there should be a way where if you delete something on one of your 
 devices such as a text message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems 
 elementary.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Barry Abbott]

I found out how  to turn on iCloud Sync ifromthe iMore web site. Essentially 
what you have to do first is turn on apple two factor authentication and then 
once you have that done you go into your Apple ID again, then iCloud and check 
the apps which are turned on or off. In my case my messages app  was off even 
though I already had two factor authentication on. I will paste the link below.

https://www.imore.com/how-turn-messages-icloud

 

Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> I saw that too, but after playing around with that mirror my iPhone toggle, 
> it just refers to mirroring your message notification settings and not the 
> messages themselves.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barry 
> Abbott
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
> watch or on the phone?
> 
> I checked my Apple Watch settings and I have messages set to mirror my 
> iPhone. This would lead me to believe that when you delete a message from 
> your iPhone it should delete that message from your watch but no, this does 
> not work. I even went into the settings on my watch and although I could see 
> other apps for some reason I could not see the messages app.
> 
> Very strange!
> 
> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable to 
>> find that setting. Thank you in advance
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
>>> To: via VIPhone ; watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
>>> Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>>> watch or on the phone?
>>> I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw 
>>> WWDC Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing said 
>>> about this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about stuff 
>>> Apple didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be 
>>> extremely annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone 
>>> and who gets messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations 
>>> not just once on whichever device you used to read it initially, but again, 
>>> on your other device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get boatloads 
>>> of texts every day like some people do. Am I missing something? Surely, 
>>> there should be a way where if you delete something on one of your devices 
>>> such as a text message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems 
>>> elementary.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Photos

[chaim biberfeld]

Excellent . thank you! Tedious yes, but at least it's possible! All the best

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com 

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> That works very well, Richard, thanks. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 3:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Photos
> 
> Well, the photos app is accessible, but it takes time to learn how to 
> navigate it.
> 
> 
> 
> If you are not used to computers or haven’t spent much time learning the ins 
> and outs, then it will take some patience to learn how to make it work for 
> you.
> 
> 
> 
> There are four tabs along the bottom of the photos app.
> 
> From left to right,
> 
> Library
> 
> For you
> 
> Albums
> 
> Search
> 
> 
> 
> If you select the Library tab, it will show you what’s in the photo library.
> 
> It tries to organize them for you, which is not intuitive.
> 
> 
> 
> I prefer to open the camera app, then find the Photo and Video viewer button 
> and open that.
> 
> This gives you a scrolling item of all your photos.
> 
> When you touch the take picture button, a single finger flick right should 
> put you on the Photo and Video Viewer button.  Double Tap.
> 
> 
> 
> Along the bottom of the screen are tabs:
> 
> Share,
> 
> Favorite, 
> 
> Info,
> 
> Edit,
> 
> Delete.
> 
> 
> 
> Those all refer to whatever photo is selected.
> 
> Just above that bottom row of buttons is the Photo Chooser.
> 
> It should say a number of a number, like 1 of 26.
> 
> If you are wanting to go to a previous photo, You flick down with one finger.
> 
> If you want to go to the next photo, you flick up with one finger.  
> 
> You are scrolling the list.
> 
> 
> 
> You can then take action on whatever photo you have selected.
> 
> 
> 
> With that many photos, you have a lot of tedious work to do, but I know of no 
> other format that is more accessible.
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe someone else does.
> 
> 
> 
> The book, Capturing and Sharing the World, by Judy Dixon available from the 
> National Braille Press in the following formats:
> 
> Braille ($18.00)
> DAISY Download ($18.00)
> DAISY (on USB drive) ($20.50)
> eBraille (download) ($18.00)
> eBraille (on USB drive) ($20.50)
> Word File (Download) ($18.00)
> Word file (on USB drive) ($20.50)
> 
> 
> 
> Chapter 3 talks all about storing and organizing your photos.  But the book 
> is full of details about the Camera app settings, accessibility, and 
> techniques for a blind person to take good photos.
> 
> The link to the National Braille Press page for the book is:
> 
> https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/PHOTOS.html
> 
> 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Richard
> 
> Spuddle: a useful verb from the 17th century that means to work feebly and 
> ineffectively, because your mind is elsewhere or you haven't quite woken up 
> yet. To be extremely busy whilst achieving absolutely nothing.
> 
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/  
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
> biberfeld
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Photos
> 
> 
> 
> I absolutely despise my iphone photo album - I find it completely 
> inaccessible. What am I doing wrong or, how can I migrate all the photos 
> using only my iphone, (I am computer illiterate), to another app or platform, 
> please? When I use photos,i see only the headings and cannot scroll through 
> the 1200 photos and videos extant.  
> 
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349  
> 
> 
> 
> thegototherapist.com 
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RE: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I saw that too, but after playing around with that mirror my iPhone toggle, it 
just refers to mirroring your message notification settings and not the 
messages themselves.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barry 
Abbott
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
watch or on the phone?

I checked my Apple Watch settings and I have messages set to mirror my iPhone. 
This would lead me to believe that when you delete a message from your iPhone 
it should delete that message from your watch but no, this does not work. I 
even went into the settings on my watch and although I could see other apps for 
some reason I could not see the messages app.

Very strange!

Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable to 
> find that setting. Thank you in advance
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: via VIPhone ; watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
>> Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>> watch or on the phone?
>> 
>> I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw 
>> WWDC Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing said 
>> about this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about stuff 
>> Apple didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be 
>> extremely annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone and 
>> who gets messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations not 
>> just once on whichever device you used to read it initially, but again, on 
>> your other device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get boatloads of 
>> texts every day like some people do. Am I missing something? Surely, there 
>> should be a way where if you delete something on one of your devices such as 
>> a text message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems elementary.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Barry Abbott]

I checked my Apple Watch settings and I have messages set to mirror my iPhone. 
This would lead me to believe that when you delete a message from your iPhone 
it should delete that message from your watch but no, this does not work. I 
even went into the settings on my watch and although I could see other apps for 
some reason I could not see the messages app.

Very strange!

Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable to 
> find that setting. Thank you in advance
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: via VIPhone ; watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
>> Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>> watch or on the phone?
>> 
>> I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw 
>> WWDC Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing said 
>> about this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about stuff 
>> Apple didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be 
>> extremely annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone and 
>> who gets messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations not 
>> just once on whichever device you used to read it initially, but again, on 
>> your other device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get boatloads of 
>> texts every day like some people do. Am I missing something? Surely, there 
>> should be a way where if you delete something on one of your devices such as 
>> a text message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems elementary.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Can some one please remind me

[Patti Johnson]

How to pair the LG keyboards, I know it's voiceover key something but 
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Obviously… it was meant in jest. Chillax people.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.

I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

 

Keep us updated.

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, I agree with Johna and Sieghard, but I also choose to interpret 
Cristóbal'spost as an attempt at humor.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Actually, I am very chill , I was pointing out your  insensitivity in a very  
polite manner.
I was also trying to understand your intent.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Take a chill pill and you're welcome  for the input.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 5:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

By the way, is the below message supposed to be funny, I sure did not find it 
humorous!
Actually it's a bit crude to women and offensive!

Hey man... that's what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.



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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Johna Gravitt]

Actually, I am very chill , I was pointing out your  insensitivity in a very  
polite manner.
I was also trying to understand your intent.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Take a chill pill and you’re welcome  for the input.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 5:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

By the way, is the below message supposed to be funny, I sure did not find it 
humorous!
Actually it’s a bit crude to women and offensive!

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 12:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.
I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
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Cristobel:

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community.

Keep us updated.
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Take a chill pill and you’re welcome  for the input.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 5:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

By the way, is the below message supposed to be funny, I sure did not find it 
humorous!

Actually it’s a bit crude to women and offensive!

 

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

 

 

  TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 12:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.

I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

 

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Re: Is there such a thing as an accessible Fitbit?

[Diane Giannetti]

No I don’t believe there is an accessible Fitbit. But I would suggest if you 
want some thing accessible is get the Apple Watch. You can do all kinds of 
workouts with the Apple Watch. It will show everything that you do. He that 
way. That should work. I haven’t done it now since I’ve had to watch so I’m not 
sure how but I’m sure we can figure it out. Somebody may know theNo I don’t 
believe there is an accessible Fitbit. But I would suggest if you want some 
thing accessible is get the Apple Watch. You can do all kinds of workouts with 
the Apple Watch. It will show everything that you do. He said it up with your 
Health app and somehow do it that way. That should work. I haven’t done it now 
since I’ve had the watch so I’m not sure how but I’m sure we could figure it 
out. Somebody may know the steps to that you have to go through.
Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> hi, everyone, the Fitbit itself is not accessible. I had to have a friend of 
> mine set mine up for me. I have the charge for. I know there is a more recent 
> one out, but I don't have it. Anyway, I love it, and try to get 10,000 steps 
> per day. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. What I do, however, is when 
> there is a TV commercial on, I stand up and run in place for the length  of 
> it. That helps a whole lot.  Anyway, take care, everyone. Esther 
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>>> On Jun 13, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi, 
>> No, I don't think the Fitbit is accessible. I wanged one, but none of them 
>> are accessible, since none of them have any voice feedback. I got an Apple 
>> Watch instead, which I enjoy quite a bit. 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: James Homuth 
>> Date: Monday, June 13, 2022 04:04 PM
>> To: blindt...@groups.io;viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Is there such a thing as an accessible Fitbit?
>> 
>> A bunch of folks in my circle are getting on the Fitbit train, and I thought
>> about joining. Are there accessible Fitbit devices out there? I know the app
>> for iPhone is accessible, but not sure re: devices. Pointers/info would be
>> helpful. Thankya!
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Re: Is there such a thing as an accessible Fitbit?

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, everyone, the Fitbit itself is not accessible. I had to have a friend of 
mine set mine up for me. I have the charge for. I know there is a more recent 
one out, but I don't have it. Anyway, I love it, and try to get 10,000 steps 
per day. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. What I do, however, is when 
there is a TV commercial on, I stand up and run in place for the length  of it. 
That helps a whole lot.  Anyway, take care, everyone. Esther 

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 13, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> Hi, 
> No, I don't think the Fitbit is accessible. I wanged one, but none of them 
> are accessible, since none of them have any voice feedback. I got an Apple 
> Watch instead, which I enjoy quite a bit. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: James Homuth 
> Date: Monday, June 13, 2022 04:04 PM
> To: blindt...@groups.io;viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is there such a thing as an accessible Fitbit?
> 
> A bunch of folks in my circle are getting on the Fitbit train, and I thought
> about joining. Are there accessible Fitbit devices out there? I know the app
> for iPhone is accessible, but not sure re: devices. Pointers/info would be
> helpful. Thankya!
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Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Anthony Vece]

How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable to 
find that setting. Thank you in advance

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
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> Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch 
> or on the phone?
> 
> I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw WWDC 
> Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing said about 
> this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about stuff Apple 
> didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be extremely 
> annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone and who gets 
> messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations not just once 
> on whichever device you used to read it initially, but again, on your other 
> device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get boatloads of texts every 
> day like some people do. Am I missing something? Surely, there should be a 
> way where if you delete something on one of your devices such as a text 
> message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems elementary.
> 
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RE: Photos

[Carolyn]

That works very well, Richard, thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Photos

Well, the photos app is accessible, but it takes time to learn how to navigate 
it.

 

If you are not used to computers or haven’t spent much time learning the ins 
and outs, then it will take some patience to learn how to make it work for you.

 

There are four tabs along the bottom of the photos app.

>From left to right,

Library

For you

Albums

Search

 

If you select the Library tab, it will show you what’s in the photo library.

It tries to organize them for you, which is not intuitive.

 

I prefer to open the camera app, then find the Photo and Video viewer button 
and open that.

This gives you a scrolling item of all your photos.

When you touch the take picture button, a single finger flick right should put 
you on the Photo and Video Viewer button.  Double Tap.

 

Along the bottom of the screen are tabs:

Share,

Favorite, 

Info,

Edit,

Delete.

 

Those all refer to whatever photo is selected.

Just above that bottom row of buttons is the Photo Chooser.

It should say a number of a number, like 1 of 26.

If you are wanting to go to a previous photo, You flick down with one finger.

If you want to go to the next photo, you flick up with one finger.  

You are scrolling the list.

 

You can then take action on whatever photo you have selected.

 

With that many photos, you have a lot of tedious work to do, but I know of no 
other format that is more accessible.

 

Maybe someone else does.

 

The book, Capturing and Sharing the World, by Judy Dixon available from the 
National Braille Press in the following formats:

Braille ($18.00)
DAISY Download ($18.00)
DAISY (on USB drive) ($20.50)
eBraille (download) ($18.00)
eBraille (on USB drive) ($20.50)
Word File (Download) ($18.00)
Word file (on USB drive) ($20.50)

 

Chapter 3 talks all about storing and organizing your photos.  But the book is 
full of details about the Camera app settings, accessibility, and techniques 
for a blind person to take good photos.

The link to the National Braille Press page for the book is:

https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/PHOTOS.html

 

HTH,

Richard

Spuddle: a useful verb from the 17th century that means to work feebly and 
ineffectively, because your mind is elsewhere or you haven't quite woken up 
yet. To be extremely busy whilst achieving absolutely nothing.

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Photos

 

I absolutely despise my iphone photo album - I find it completely inaccessible. 
What am I doing wrong or, how can I migrate all the photos using only my 
iphone, (I am computer illiterate), to another app or platform, please? When I 
use photos,i see only the headings and cannot scroll through the 1200 photos 
and videos extant.  

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Johna Gravitt]

By the way, is the below message supposed to be funny, I sure did not find it 
humorous!
Actually it’s a bit crude to women and offensive!

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 12:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.
I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Cristobel:

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community.

Keep us updated.
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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Johna Gravitt]

I had a sighted spouse, and quite honestly sometimes it’s better to do things 
myself, being as independent as possible!
I have nothing against asking for help and allowing sighted people to help, but 
to  say that’s what sighted people are for  just promotes the stereotype for 
individuals who are blind or disabled can’t do things on our own!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 12:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.
I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

Cristobel:

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community.

Keep us updated.
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Re: Question about Bluetooth keyboard

[Robert Wright]

To add to Richard's contribution:
To jump to the top or bottom of a email or text message that you are composing 
press option up or down arrow.
To move by word forward or back option right or left arrow.
To select by word add the shift key  to the previous command.
To select from cursor to the beginning or end. option+shift+up or down arrow

> On Jun 13, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You would use the Keyboard commands that match flicking right to get into the 
> body of the message, and then to double tap to turn the message box into an 
> editing field and then the enter key will send it.  If you want to put in a 
> hard return in your message you have to press options+enter because just 
> hitting enter sends it.
> The command to essentially flick right with one finger is 
> control+options+right arrow.
> To double tap is control+options+spacebar.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Spuddle: a useful verb from the 17th century that means to work feebly and 
> ineffectively, because your mind is elsewhere or you haven't quite woken up 
> yet. To be extremely busy whilst achieving absolutely nothing.
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Question about Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I must send a text message, and I want to use my keyboard keys to go, because 
> Siri makes some mistakes when I tried.
> I opened messages and I was able to type the address, but,
> What command can I use to type the message? I didn’t know what to do to go to 
> the body of the message.
> Also, what command should I use to send it?
>  
> Rena
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