RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Christopher Chaltain]

I use the Watch app on my iPhone, although if I remember right, it's all also 
accessible on the watch, although I recall it being more tedious.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

Do you adjust the watch face with the phone or the watch?
At 12:22 PM 8/6/2023, you wrote:

>The modular face is my go to face on my Apple Watch SE. It allows for
>six complications. If I explore it by touch, it looks like there are
>three small complications across the bottom, one large complication in
>the middle, two small complications in the top corners and then the
>time at the top middle. The middle larger complication would be good
>for things like activities or upcoming events, things that would
>benefit from that extra space.
>
>
>
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>Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
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>Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
>
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>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> On Behalf Of Jennie Facer
>Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 7:36 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted
>
>
>
>Hi there,
>
>
>
>If I were you, I would check out the modular face. I believe that has 6
>complications. I don't remember swiping between them, but it has been
>forever since I have used it. i use the infographic with 8
>complications which you said you did not want. It is somewhat easy to
>get to them as well, but sometimes I do have to swipe.
>
>
>
>Jenn
>
>Jenn and Kumi
>
>
>
>On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:31 PM, Wayne Merritt
><wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think.
>Anyway, I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications
>and the time and date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2
>additional complications. I don't want or need a face that has 8 slots.
>I would like to find accessible faces which offer 5 or 6 complications,
>along with the time and date. I want to be able to touch a part of the
>display to hear the relevant information. I've used one of the infograh
>faces before that has spaces for 8 complications.
>While that was cool, I often found that I had to swipe between
>complications to access those in the middle. I don't need that level of
>detail now. All thoughts are welcomed even if they are negative about
>certain faces. Tell me which face you have and why you like it, or why
>you don't.
>
>
>
>Warmly,
>
>Wayne
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Re: Soundscape update

[Richard Turner]

Actually Andy, no. VoiceVista is one of at least three new apps using the Soundscape code from Microsoft. OpenScape and SoundScape For Everyone are the other two that are both in beta. I have both beta versions on my phone. Even Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Aug 6, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:






It was my understanding that the Soundscape replacement is 
called VoiceVista.
 
Andy
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jody ianuzzi 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2023 5:29 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Soundscape update
  
  Hello Richard,
  
  Thank you for the update.
  
  
  JODY
  
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  On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:
  
No knowing when. OpenScape beta ouas 52 more days on the 
current beta build and Sound Sckape for everyone has 15 days on the current 
build. Often, there are more beta builds. So until someone from either app 
makes an official announcement,  no one knows.



Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)

On Aug 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Jody ianuzzi 
   wrote:

  
  Hi everyone,
  
  Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape 
  come out of beta and soundscape for everyone?
  
  
  JODY
  
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Re: Soundscape update

[Andy Baracco]

It was my understanding that the Soundscape replacement is called VoiceVista.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jody ianuzzi 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2023 5:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Soundscape update


  Hello Richard,


  Thank you for the update.


  JODY


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On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


No knowing when. OpenScape beta ouas 52 more days on the current beta 
build and Sound Sckape for everyone has 15 days on the current build. Often, 
there are more beta builds. So until someone from either app makes an official 
announcement,  no one knows.





Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)


  On Aug 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Jody ianuzzi  
wrote:


  
  Hi everyone,


  Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape come 
out of beta and soundscape for everyone?


  JODY


  To Boldly Go   




  thunderwalker...@gmail.com 


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RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Ann Byrne]

Do you adjust the watch face with the phone or the watch?
At 12:22 PM 8/6/2023, you wrote:

The modular face is my go to face on my Apple 
Watch SE. It allows for six complications. If I 
explore it by touch, it looks like there are 
three small complications across the bottom, one 
large complication in the middle, two small 
complications in the top corners and then the 
time at the top middle. The middle larger 
complication would be good for things like 
activities or upcoming events, things that would benefit from that extra space.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted



Hi there,



If I were you, I would check out the modular 
face. I believe that has 6 complications. I 
don't remember swiping between them, but it has 
been forever since I have used it. i use the 
infographic with 8 complications which you said 
you did not want. It is somewhat easy to get to 
them as well, but sometimes I do have to swipe.




Jenn

Jenn and Kumi



On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:31 PM, Wayne Merritt 
<wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:




Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 
running WatchOS 9.4 I think. Anyway, I'm wanting 
to change from my simple face with 4 
complications and the time and date in the 
center to a face that offers 1 to 2 additional 
complications. I don't want or need a face that 
has 8 slots. I would like to find accessible 
faces which offer 5 or 6 complications, along 
with the time and date. I want to be able to 
touch a part of the display to hear the relevant 
information. I've used one of the infograh faces 
before that has spaces for 8 complications. 
While that was cool, I often found that I had to 
swipe between complications to access those in 
the middle. I don't need that level of detail 
now. All thoughts are welcomed even if they are 
negative about certain faces. Tell me which face 
you have and why you like it, or why you don't.




Warmly,

Wayne

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Re: Soundscape update

[Jody ianuzzi]

Hello Richard,Thank you for the update.JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Aug 6, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:No knowing when. OpenScape beta ouas 52 more days on the current beta build and Sound Sckape for everyone has 15 days on the current build. Often, there are more beta builds. So until someone from either app makes an official announcement,  no one knows.Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Aug 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Hi everyone,Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape come out of beta and soundscape for everyone?JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik Weihenmayer



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Re: Soundscape update

[Richard Turner]

No knowing when. OpenScape beta ouas 52 more days on the current beta build and Sound Sckape for everyone has 15 days on the current build. Often, there are more beta builds. So until someone from either app makes an official announcement,  no one knows.Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Aug 6, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Hi everyone,Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape come out of beta and soundscape for everyone?JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik Weihenmayer



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Soundscape update

[Jody ianuzzi]

Hi everyone,

Is there any news on the Soundscape replacements? Will open scape come out of 
beta and soundscape for everyone?

JODY

To Boldly Go   


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"What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik 
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A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  

Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."


I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
taking it for granted.

Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.

For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong

Wow!

After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
playlist.

Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
functionality of Alexa.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
so, it is crazy!!!

So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
order to create / manipulate playlists.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Christopher Chaltain]

PIM or personal information management, complications I like are reminders, 
upcoming events and timers , but there's anything under the calendar, contacts, 
and so on.

When you go to add a complication, only complications you can add in that 
location will be shown as options. So when only a small complication will fit 
then you'll only be shown small complications. The bigger trick is that a 
complication may look differently in a space for a small complication then it 
will for a space for a large complication. I don't know how to sort all of this 
out except through trial and error, which is why I say you don't need to figure 
it all out in one session. You can pick up some clues though, for example, if 
you see that you have three complications across the bottom, like lower left, 
lower center and lower right then you know these will be smaller complications. 
Also, some complications that have a lot information in them, like events, 
weather, activity, ..., will be able to display more when they go into a spot 
for a larger complication.

Sorry that isn't a lot of help, but for me at least, the best way to figure 
this out and settle on what you like is just by trial and error.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

I have a couple of questions for you.  What are PIM complications?  Now as far 
as messing around with different faces, a lot of faces won't let you add 
certain complications in the places you want to add them.  How can you figure 
out what can go where without wasting a lot of time and then discovering that 
it isn't available?  Thanks for any input.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Our tongue can accuse,
and carry bad news.
The seeds of distrust it will sow.
But unless you've made,
No mistakes in your life,
Be careful of stones that you throw.

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- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2023 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Apple Watch face input wanted


I've mentioned this before, but I do what Sieghard mentions below. I use the
modular face as my default face with mostly PIM complications on it. I also
have an activity face for obvious reasons. Finally, as we were traveling
around Durango Colorado, I added an infograph face with complications
related to weather and geography. Before I settled on these three I had half
a dozen or more faces on my watch, and I'd flip between them until I settled
on the three above.

This is another thing I'd suggest doing, specifically use the Watch app on
your phone and browse the faces until you see one that looks interesting
based on the number of complications and the information it comes with. You
can also pay attention to the description of it's appearance. Once you find
one that's interesting, spend a few minutes to set it up and then play with
it for a week or so. Try another one the following week and eventually
you'll settle on exactly what you're looking for. This is what I did, and I
thought it was kind of fun playing around with the different options to see
what I liked and I didn't like. I didn't try to do it all at once though.
Obviously not everyone is going to find this "fun!"

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

I used to use the Modular, but ever since Apple added the Infograph I have
been using it as it offers the most complications.
Of course you could use 2 or 3 watch faces and arrange them so that the main
one is in the middle and you either swipe left or right to get to the other
two which could be set up for more specific things like Health/workout or
home automation, but I prefer to have most of what I want on one
complication which for me includes of course the time, sunrise/sunset,
battery status, heart rate, the workout app and a few other apps like Apple
Home and the one for my store's alarm system.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
Merritt
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

Thanks Christopher and all others who sent their thoughts. It sounds like
the modular face is what I'm looking for.

Wayne

On 8/6/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> The modular face is my go to face on my Apple Watch SE. It allows for
> six complications. If I explore it by touch, it looks like there are
> three small complications across the bottom, one large complication in
> the middle, two small complications in the top corners and then the time
> at the top middle.
> The middle larger complication would be good for things like
> activities or upcoming 

Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Kay Malmquist]

I have a couple of questions for you.  What are PIM complications?  Now as 
far as messing around with different faces, a lot of faces won't let you add 
certain complications in the places you want to add them.  How can you 
figure out what can go where without wasting a lot of time and then 
discovering that it isn't available?  Thanks for any input.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Our tongue can accuse,
and carry bad news.
The seeds of distrust it will sow.
But unless you've made,
No mistakes in your life,
Be careful of stones that you throw.

Big Tom
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2023 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Apple Watch face input wanted


I've mentioned this before, but I do what Sieghard mentions below. I use the 
modular face as my default face with mostly PIM complications on it. I also 
have an activity face for obvious reasons. Finally, as we were traveling 
around Durango Colorado, I added an infograph face with complications 
related to weather and geography. Before I settled on these three I had half 
a dozen or more faces on my watch, and I'd flip between them until I settled 
on the three above.

This is another thing I'd suggest doing, specifically use the Watch app on 
your phone and browse the faces until you see one that looks interesting 
based on the number of complications and the information it comes with. You 
can also pay attention to the description of it's appearance. Once you find 
one that's interesting, spend a few minutes to set it up and then play with 
it for a week or so. Try another one the following week and eventually 
you'll settle on exactly what you're looking for. This is what I did, and I 
thought it was kind of fun playing around with the different options to see 
what I liked and I didn't like. I didn't try to do it all at once though. 
Obviously not everyone is going to find this "fun!"

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

I used to use the Modular, but ever since Apple added the Infograph I have 
been using it as it offers the most complications.
Of course you could use 2 or 3 watch faces and arrange them so that the main 
one is in the middle and you either swipe left or right to get to the other 
two which could be set up for more specific things like Health/workout or 
home automation, but I prefer to have most of what I want on one 
complication which for me includes of course the time, sunrise/sunset, 
battery status, heart rate, the workout app and a few other apps like Apple 
Home and the one for my store's alarm system.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

Thanks Christopher and all others who sent their thoughts. It sounds like 
the modular face is what I'm looking for.

Wayne

On 8/6/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> The modular face is my go to face on my Apple Watch SE. It allows for
> six complications. If I explore it by touch, it looks like there are
> three small complications across the bottom, one large complication in
> the middle, two small complications in the top corners and then the time 
> at the top middle.
> The middle larger complication would be good for things like
> activities or upcoming events, things that would benefit from that extra 
> space.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted
>
> Hi there,
>
> If I were you, I would check out the modular face. I believe that has
> 6 complications. I don't remember swiping between them, but it has
> been forever since I have used it. i use the infographic with 8
> complications which you said you did not want. It is somewhat easy to
> get to them as well, but sometimes I do have to swipe.
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:31?PM, Wayne Merritt
> mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think.
> Anyway, I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications
> and the time and date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2
> additional complications. I don't want or need a face that has 8
> slots. I would like to find accessible faces which offer 5 or 6
> complications, along with the time and date. I want to be able to
> touch a part of the display to hear the relevant information. I've
> used one of the infograh faces before that has spaces for 8
> complications. While that was cool, I often found that I had to swipe
> between complications to access those in the 

RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Christopher Chaltain]

I've mentioned this before, but I do what Sieghard mentions below. I use the 
modular face as my default face with mostly PIM complications on it. I also 
have an activity face for obvious reasons. Finally, as we were traveling around 
Durango Colorado, I added an infograph face with complications related to 
weather and geography. Before I settled on these three I had half a dozen or 
more faces on my watch, and I'd flip between them until I settled on the three 
above.

This is another thing I'd suggest doing, specifically use the Watch app on your 
phone and browse the faces until you see one that looks interesting based on 
the number of complications and the information it comes with. You can also pay 
attention to the description of it's appearance. Once you find one that's 
interesting, spend a few minutes to set it up and then play with it for a week 
or so. Try another one the following week and eventually you'll settle on 
exactly what you're looking for. This is what I did, and I thought it was kind 
of fun playing around with the different options to see what I liked and I 
didn't like. I didn't try to do it all at once though. Obviously not everyone 
is going to find this "fun!"

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

I used to use the Modular, but ever since Apple added the Infograph I have been 
using it as it offers the most complications.
Of course you could use 2 or 3 watch faces and arrange them so that the main 
one is in the middle and you either swipe left or right to get to the other two 
which could be set up for more specific things like Health/workout or home 
automation, but I prefer to have most of what I want on one complication which 
for me includes of course the time, sunrise/sunset, battery status, heart rate, 
the workout app and a few other apps like Apple Home and the one for my store's 
alarm system.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

Thanks Christopher and all others who sent their thoughts. It sounds like the 
modular face is what I'm looking for.

Wayne

On 8/6/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> The modular face is my go to face on my Apple Watch SE. It allows for
> six complications. If I explore it by touch, it looks like there are
> three small complications across the bottom, one large complication in
> the middle, two small complications in the top corners and then the time at 
> the top middle.
> The middle larger complication would be good for things like
> activities or upcoming events, things that would benefit from that extra 
> space.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted
>
> Hi there,
>
> If I were you, I would check out the modular face. I believe that has
> 6 complications. I don't remember swiping between them, but it has
> been forever since I have used it. i use the infographic with 8
> complications which you said you did not want. It is somewhat easy to
> get to them as well, but sometimes I do have to swipe.
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:31 PM, Wayne Merritt
> mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think.
> Anyway, I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications
> and the time and date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2
> additional complications. I don't want or need a face that has 8
> slots. I would like to find accessible faces which offer 5 or 6
> complications, along with the time and date. I want to be able to
> touch a part of the display to hear the relevant information. I've
> used one of the infograh faces before that has spaces for 8
> complications. While that was cool, I often found that I had to swipe
> between complications to access those in the middle. I don't need that
> level of detail now. All thoughts are welcomed even if they are
> negative about certain faces. Tell me which face you have and why you like 
> it, or why you don't.
>
> Warmly,
> Wayne
> Wayne Merritt
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RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

[Sieghard Weitzel]

A valid point, I think most of the high-end smart thermostats will have touch 
screens, but then again you may not have to spend $300 if a $80 device does all 
you want and has buttons. For me it's not such a big concern because while "Hey 
Siri" or "Alexa" may not work without internet, "Hey Jackie" works really well 
for me, she also responds to "Honey" and "Sweetie" so a definite bonus!
Of course now that we have the mini-split heat pump system where each of the 4 
different indoor units has its own remote control (with buttons, not touch 
screen) also helps. We still have an electric backup furnace which replaces our 
old natural gas furnace and which is a central forced air system and it's still 
connected to my old Honeywell T5, but we only need that if it gets to be around 
-25 Celsius or colder when the air source heat pump is no longer efficient 
enough and if I don't feel like lighting a fire in our wood stove.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hello Sieghard,

Thank you for this information.

One complaint I have received from two totally blind list members is that the 
Ecobee is a touch-surface-only device.  While this is not a problem as long as 
the internet connection is up and running, when down, the unit is completely 
unusable by a blind person.

The model I purchased has hardware buttons that can control the unit without 
the Wi-fi or Internet.  

Although rare, there have been times when I’ve had OS hardware hick-ups and it 
is good to be able to control the unit without a smart device, at hand.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hi Richard,

While I am obviously not Mark and I don't know what he is using, I would take a 
look at the Honeywell T9 and T10 and Ecobee is also Home Kit compatible and 
seems to be very highly ranked in many reviews. Both the Ecobee and T9 can be 
paired with remote sensors which you can put in other rooms.
Here is a good article which I found recently and which summarizes some of 
these choices and more; the Ecobee premium also has a built-in  microphone 
which allows you to use Siri and Alexa directly from the thermostat which I 
think might be quite nice. There is also one mentioned which is a connected 
smart thermostat, but it has a knob like an old radio dial which allows you to 
change the temperature on device..

https://www.imore.com/best-homekit-thermostats

-Original Message-
From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 6:17 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Mark, what thermostat are you using? That  alone could cause me to purchase the 
home  kit. Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:07 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hello Everyone,

During the winter, I had a Home Kit compatible thermostat installed in my house.

I continue to truly appreciate the temperature control I now enjoy via iOS and 
iPad OS.

Until I installed this thermostat, I either had to turn the A/C either on or 
off.  The old legacy thermostats was simply not accessible to me as a blind 
person.

However, I recently began having Siri keep the house between 2 temperature set 
points such as 78 to 82 degrees. It is wonderful.  Now I know this is not a big 
deal for sighted people but, until now, I have not enjoyed this capability, 
completely independent of a sighted person.

When I am away from the house for any significant period of time, with the A/C 
off, I tell Siri to turn the A/C on before I get home and the house is already 
nice and cool.

Now I know this can be done with both Alexa and the Google assistant so I am 
not promoting Siri over anything; I just continue to be amazed at the level of 
accessibility that I never would have dreamed of 30 years ago.

Mark


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RE: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS

[Richard]

The PC Outlook account is a corporate account with many names that cannot be 
removed.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS

 

Why don't you just set up your Outlook account on your iPhone, that way 
whatever you change on the computer in Outlook syncs to the iPhone as well.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS

 

Because I inadvertently swept hundreds of unneeded entries from my Microsoft 
Outlook email account into my iPhone contact listings, I need to delete many, 
many contacts.

 

Is there a contact editor that will allow me to remove contacts from the 
contacts list screen? As far as I can determine, the only way to remove a 
contact in the native iOS is to open the  contact and move down to  the delete 
button. That’s pretty time consuming and I hope for a faster way.

 

I will appreciate any assistance.

 

 

Richard Petty

richard.pe...@earthlink.net  

 

 

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RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I used to use the Modular, but ever since Apple added the Infograph I have been 
using it as it offers the most complications.
Of course you could use 2 or 3 watch faces and arrange them so that the main 
one is in the middle and you either swipe left or right to get to the other two 
which could be set up for more specific things like Health/workout or home 
automation, but I prefer to have most of what I want on one complication which 
for me includes of course the time, sunrise/sunset, battery status, heart rate, 
the workout app and a few other apps like Apple Home and the one for my store's 
alarm system.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

Thanks Christopher and all others who sent their thoughts. It sounds like the 
modular face is what I'm looking for.

Wayne

On 8/6/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> The modular face is my go to face on my Apple Watch SE. It allows for 
> six complications. If I explore it by touch, it looks like there are 
> three small complications across the bottom, one large complication in 
> the middle, two small complications in the top corners and then the time at 
> the top middle.
> The middle larger complication would be good for things like 
> activities or upcoming events, things that would benefit from that extra 
> space.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted
>
> Hi there,
>
> If I were you, I would check out the modular face. I believe that has 
> 6 complications. I don't remember swiping between them, but it has 
> been forever since I have used it. i use the infographic with 8 
> complications which you said you did not want. It is somewhat easy to 
> get to them as well, but sometimes I do have to swipe.
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:31 PM, Wayne Merritt 
> mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think.
> Anyway, I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications 
> and the time and date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2 
> additional complications. I don't want or need a face that has 8 
> slots. I would like to find accessible faces which offer 5 or 6 
> complications, along with the time and date. I want to be able to 
> touch a part of the display to hear the relevant information. I've 
> used one of the infograh faces before that has spaces for 8 
> complications. While that was cool, I often found that I had to swipe 
> between complications to access those in the middle. I don't need that 
> level of detail now. All thoughts are welcomed even if they are 
> negative about certain faces. Tell me which face you have and why you like 
> it, or why you don't.
>
> Warmly,
> Wayne
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RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard,

Thank you for this information.

One complaint I have received from two totally blind list members is that the 
Ecobee is a touch-surface-only device.  While this is not a problem as long as 
the internet connection is up and running, when down, the unit is completely 
unusable by a blind person.

The model I purchased has hardware buttons that can control the unit without 
the Wi-fi or Internet.  

Although rare, there have been times when I’ve had OS hardware hick-ups and it 
is good to be able to control the unit without a smart device, at hand.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hi Richard,

While I am obviously not Mark and I don't know what he is using, I would take a 
look at the Honeywell T9 and T10 and Ecobee is also Home Kit compatible and 
seems to be very highly ranked in many reviews. Both the Ecobee and T9 can be 
paired with remote sensors which you can put in other rooms.
Here is a good article which I found recently and which summarizes some of 
these choices and more; the Ecobee premium also has a built-in  microphone 
which allows you to use Siri and Alexa directly from the thermostat which I 
think might be quite nice. There is also one mentioned which is a connected 
smart thermostat, but it has a knob like an old radio dial which allows you to 
change the temperature on device..

https://www.imore.com/best-homekit-thermostats

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From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 6:17 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Mark, what thermostat are you using? That  alone could cause me to purchase the 
home  kit. Thanks!

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From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:07 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hello Everyone,

During the winter, I had a Home Kit compatible thermostat installed in my house.

I continue to truly appreciate the temperature control I now enjoy via iOS and 
iPad OS.

Until I installed this thermostat, I either had to turn the A/C either on or 
off.  The old legacy thermostats was simply not accessible to me as a blind 
person.

However, I recently began having Siri keep the house between 2 temperature set 
points such as 78 to 82 degrees. It is wonderful.  Now I know this is not a big 
deal for sighted people but, until now, I have not enjoyed this capability, 
completely independent of a sighted person.

When I am away from the house for any significant period of time, with the A/C 
off, I tell Siri to turn the A/C on before I get home and the house is already 
nice and cool.

Now I know this can be done with both Alexa and the Google assistant so I am 
not promoting Siri over anything; I just continue to be amazed at the level of 
accessibility that I never would have dreamed of 30 years ago.

Mark


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RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think this brand was also mentioned in the iMore review I just posted.
I am also curious if anybody on the list has a mini-split heat pump system with 
multiple indoor heads. We just installed such a system and it's fantastic as we 
now get air conditioning as well as heating and with temperatures climbing 
higher and higher each year it seems the air conditioning is definitely a nice 
option. However, as there are 4 independent units in the house (bedroom and 
living room upstairs as well as our guest bedroom and family/rec room 
downstairs) a single thermostat somewhat defeats the purpose although I believe 
you can link the units to various smart thermostats. At this point it's not a 
critical issue because each unit comes with a remote control and for the most 
part you just need to turn it on and then there is a toggle like a volume 
rocker where you can turn the temperature up or down. Of course the temperature 
is displayed on the remote so I haven't checked yet if an app like Seeing Ai 
can read it.
There is also an app, the system is from the company Daikins, and while I have 
figured out how to use the app it is certainly not what you could call 
accessible. The installer helped me to figure it out, I was able to label a few 
unlabelled buttons and the labels also seem to stick, so like I said, it's 
useable for changing temperatures and so on, but I definitely still have to 
contact the developer and see if they are open towards improving accessibility. 
I assume it might be possible to link each unit's built-in thermostat to an 
external smart thermostat, but if I needed to buy 4 smart thermostats that 
could get pretty expensive. I am intriqued by the option to add room sensors to 
the Ecobee Premium or the Honeywell T9, but I have to find out if it would be 
possible for the Ecobee to then turn on any of the 4 indoor units independently 
if it receives a signal from the sensor in that room That of course would be 
amazing, but it might be too much to expect.

Best refgards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hello Richard,

Okay, I am posting the info to the model I purchased, below.  This model was 
suggested by V iPhone list member, James.  It was the best purchase I've made 
in years.

Mark

Original Post:
I’ve had a Sensi model st55 for 2 years now. Be sure you get this cheaper 
$80.00, model available from Amazon.  It has buttons that control selecting 
heat or air conditioning and changing the temperature and more.  It also works 
with Alexa and there is an app for I Phone and I think, Android.
Note, the more expensive model is flat screen only.  No buttons.  The buttons 
are important for a blind person to use the thermostat in case your internet 
goes down.

The $80.00, thermostat with buttons is model ST55.  Here is an Amazon link.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NB1OB0I/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8=16b53869f5473df1c2e96eaa091b5ae3_cr_id=1865675060401_rd_plhdr=t_rd_r=a4851b0d-8d87-4199-8c2b-32c4437daff2_rd_w=8kn92_rd_wg=ViTHK_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_bkgd

HTH,

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 6:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Mark, what thermostat are you using? That  alone could cause me to purchase the 
home  kit. Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hello Everyone,

During the winter, I had a Home Kit compatible thermostat installed in my house.

I continue to truly appreciate the temperature control I now enjoy via iOS and 
iPad OS.

Until I installed this thermostat, I either had to turn the A/C either on or 
off.  The old legacy thermostats was simply not accessible to me as a blind 
person.

However, I recently began having Siri keep the house between 2 temperature set 
points such as 78 to 82 degrees. It is wonderful.  Now I know this is not a big 
deal for sighted people but, until now, I have not enjoyed this capability, 
completely independent of a sighted person.

When I am away from the house for any significant period of time, with the A/C 
off, I tell Siri to turn the A/C on before I get home and the house is already 
nice and cool.

Now I know this can be done with both Alexa and the Google assistant so I am 
not promoting Siri over anything; I just continue to be amazed at the level of 
accessibility that I never would have dreamed of 30 years ago.

Mark


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Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Wayne Merritt]

Thanks Christopher and all others who sent their thoughts. It sounds
like the modular face is what I'm looking for.

Wayne

On 8/6/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> The modular face is my go to face on my Apple Watch SE. It allows for six
> complications. If I explore it by touch, it looks like there are three small
> complications across the bottom, one large complication in the middle, two
> small complications in the top corners and then the time at the top middle.
> The middle larger complication would be good for things like activities or
> upcoming events, things that would benefit from that extra space.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted
>
> Hi there,
>
> If I were you, I would check out the modular face. I believe that has 6
> complications. I don't remember swiping between them, but it has been
> forever since I have used it. i use the infographic with 8 complications
> which you said you did not want. It is somewhat easy to get to them as well,
> but sometimes I do have to swipe.
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:31 PM, Wayne Merritt
> mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think.
> Anyway, I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications and
> the time and date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2 additional
> complications. I don't want or need a face that has 8 slots. I would like to
> find accessible faces which offer 5 or 6 complications, along with the time
> and date. I want to be able to touch a part of the display to hear the
> relevant information. I've used one of the infograh faces before that has
> spaces for 8 complications. While that was cool, I often found that I had to
> swipe between complications to access those in the middle. I don't need that
> level of detail now. All thoughts are welcomed even if they are negative
> about certain faces. Tell me which face you have and why you like it, or why
> you don't.
>
> Warmly,
> Wayne
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Re: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS

[Mike B.]

Give this a try:

Go to the contact  you want to delete, but don't open it or anything, only 
highlight / select it.
The easiest way is to do a single finger triple tap on the contact and you 
will find the Close context menu or delete button, or do a single finger 
double
tap and hold on the contact and you get the same options.  They're either 
Close context menu or Delete.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2023 11:24 AM
Subject: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS


Because I inadvertently swept hundreds of unneeded entries from my Microsoft 
Outlook email account into my iPhone contact listings, I need to delete 
many, many contacts.



Is there a contact editor that will allow me to remove contacts from the 
contacts list screen? As far as I can determine, the only way to remove a 
contact in the native iOS is to open the  contact and move down to  the 
delete button. That’s pretty time consuming and I hope for a faster way.



I will appreciate any assistance.





Richard Petty

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RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,



While I am obviously not Mark and I don't know what he is using, I would take a 
look at the Honeywell T9 and T10 and Ecobee is also Home Kit compatible and 
seems to be very highly ranked in many reviews. Both the Ecobee and T9 can be 
paired with remote sensors which you can put in other rooms.

Here is a good article which I found recently and which summarizes some of 
these choices and more; the Ecobee premium also has a built-in  microphone 
which allows you to use Siri and Alexa directly from the thermostat which I 
think might be quite nice. There is also one mentioned which is a connected 
smart thermostat, but it has a knob like an old radio dial which allows you to 
change the temperature on device..



Best HomeKit thermostats for the Home app in 2023 | 
iMore



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 6:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit



Mark, what thermostat are you using? That  alone could cause me to purchase the 
home  kit. Thanks!



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:07 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit



Hello Everyone,



During the winter, I had a Home Kit compatible thermostat installed in my house.



I continue to truly appreciate the temperature control I now enjoy via iOS and 
iPad OS.



Until I installed this thermostat, I either had to turn the A/C either on or 
off.  The old legacy thermostats was simply not accessible to me as a blind 
person.



However, I recently began having Siri keep the house between 2 temperature set 
points such as 78 to 82 degrees. It is wonderful.  Now I know this is not a big 
deal for sighted people but, until now, I have not enjoyed this capability, 
completely independent of a sighted person.



When I am away from the house for any significant period of time, with the A/C 
off, I tell Siri to turn the A/C on before I get home and the house is already 
nice and cool.



Now I know this can be done with both Alexa and the Google assistant so I am 
not promoting Siri over anything; I just continue to be amazed at the level of 
accessibility that I never would have dreamed of 30 years ago.



Mark





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RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

[M. Taylor]

Hello Richard,

Okay, I am posting the info to the model I purchased, below.  This model was 
suggested by V iPhone list member, James.  It was the best purchase I've made 
in years.

Mark

Original Post:
I’ve had a Sensi model st55 for 2 years now. Be sure you get this cheaper 
$80.00, model available from Amazon.  It has buttons that control selecting 
heat or air conditioning and changing the temperature and more.  It also works 
with Alexa and there is an app for I Phone and I think, Android.
Note, the more expensive model is flat screen only.  No buttons.  The buttons 
are important for a blind person to use the thermostat in case your internet 
goes down.

The $80.00, thermostat with buttons is model ST55.  Here is an Amazon link.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NB1OB0I/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8=16b53869f5473df1c2e96eaa091b5ae3_cr_id=1865675060401_rd_plhdr=t_rd_r=a4851b0d-8d87-4199-8c2b-32c4437daff2_rd_w=8kn92_rd_wg=ViTHK_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_bkgd

HTH,

James B

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 6:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Mark, what thermostat are you using? That  alone could cause me to purchase the 
home  kit. Thanks!

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Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hello Everyone,

During the winter, I had a Home Kit compatible thermostat installed in my house.

I continue to truly appreciate the temperature control I now enjoy via iOS and 
iPad OS.

Until I installed this thermostat, I either had to turn the A/C either on or 
off.  The old legacy thermostats was simply not accessible to me as a blind 
person.

However, I recently began having Siri keep the house between 2 temperature set 
points such as 78 to 82 degrees. It is wonderful.  Now I know this is not a big 
deal for sighted people but, until now, I have not enjoyed this capability, 
completely independent of a sighted person.

When I am away from the house for any significant period of time, with the A/C 
off, I tell Siri to turn the A/C on before I get home and the house is already 
nice and cool.

Now I know this can be done with both Alexa and the Google assistant so I am 
not promoting Siri over anything; I just continue to be amazed at the level of 
accessibility that I never would have dreamed of 30 years ago.

Mark


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RE: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why don't you just set up your Outlook account on your iPhone, that way 
whatever you change on the computer in Outlook syncs to the iPhone as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
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Subject: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS

Because I inadvertently swept hundreds of unneeded entries from my Microsoft 
Outlook email account into my iPhone contact listings, I need to delete many, 
many contacts.

Is there a contact editor that will allow me to remove contacts from the 
contacts list screen? As far as I can determine, the only way to remove a 
contact in the native iOS is to open the  contact and move down to  the delete 
button. That’s pretty time consuming and I hope for a faster way.

I will appreciate any assistance.


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Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS

[Richard]

Because I inadvertently swept hundreds of unneeded entries from my Microsoft 
Outlook email account into my iPhone contact listings, I need to delete many, 
many contacts.

 

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contacts list screen? As far as I can determine, the only way to remove a 
contact in the native iOS is to open the  contact and move down to  the delete 
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RE: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Christopher Chaltain]

The modular face is my go to face on my Apple Watch SE. It allows for six 
complications. If I explore it by touch, it looks like there are three small 
complications across the bottom, one large complication in the middle, two 
small complications in the top corners and then the time at the top middle. The 
middle larger complication would be good for things like activities or upcoming 
events, things that would benefit from that extra space.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
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Subject: Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

Hi there,

If I were you, I would check out the modular face. I believe that has 6 
complications. I don't remember swiping between them, but it has been forever 
since I have used it. i use the infographic with 8 complications which you said 
you did not want. It is somewhat easy to get to them as well, but sometimes I 
do have to swipe.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


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mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think. Anyway, 
I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications and the time and 
date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2 additional complications. I 
don't want or need a face that has 8 slots. I would like to find accessible 
faces which offer 5 or 6 complications, along with the time and date. I want to 
be able to touch a part of the display to hear the relevant information. I've 
used one of the infograh faces before that has spaces for 8 complications. 
While that was cool, I often found that I had to swipe between complications to 
access those in the middle. I don't need that level of detail now. All thoughts 
are welcomed even if they are negative about certain faces. Tell me which face 
you have and why you like it, or why you don't.

Warmly,
Wayne
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Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Kathy Blackburn]

I use the Liquid Metal face, precisely because it has the four complications I want: temperature, time of sunrise and sunset, time, and date. 
Kathy Blackburn
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On Aug 5, 2023 11:31 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think. Anyway, I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications and the time and date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2 additional complications. I don't want or need a face that has 8 slots. I would like to find accessible faces which offer 5 or 6 complications, along with the time and date. I want to be able to touch a part of the display to hear the relevant information. I've used one of the infograh faces before that has spaces for 8 complications. While that was cool, I often found that I had to swipe between complications to access those in the middle. I don't need that level of detail now. All thoughts are welcomed even if they are negative about certain faces. Tell me which face you have and why you like it, or why you don't. Warmly, Wayne Wayne MerrittJAWS Certified, 2023http://freedomscientific.com/certificationCheck out my GoodReads page:http://goodreads.com/waynesbooks



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RE: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

[Richard]

Mark, what thermostat are you using? That  alone could cause me to purchase the 
home  kit. Thanks!

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Subject: I Continue to Appreciate the Accessibility of Apple Home Kit

Hello Everyone,

During the winter, I had a Home Kit compatible thermostat installed in my house.

I continue to truly appreciate the temperature control I now enjoy via iOS and 
iPad OS.

Until I installed this thermostat, I either had to turn the A/C either on or 
off.  The old legacy thermostats was simply not accessible to me as a blind 
person.

However, I recently began having Siri keep the house between 2 temperature set 
points such as 78 to 82 degrees. It is wonderful.  Now I know this is not a big 
deal for sighted people but, until now, I have not enjoyed this capability, 
completely independent of a sighted person.

When I am away from the house for any significant period of time, with the A/C 
off, I tell Siri to turn the A/C on before I get home and the house is already 
nice and cool.

Now I know this can be done with both Alexa and the Google assistant so I am 
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Mark


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Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Robert Doc Wright]

you still determine how many complications you want or need by what you choose. 
If you leave one blank then it's just blank.
  - Original Message - 
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  Subject: Apple Watch face input wanted


  Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think. 
Anyway, I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications and the 
time and date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2 additional 
complications. I don't want or need a face that has 8 slots. I would like to 
find accessible faces which offer 5 or 6 complications, along with the time and 
date. I want to be able to touch a part of the display to hear the relevant 
information. I've used one of the infograh faces before that has spaces for 8 
complications. While that was cool, I often found that I had to swipe between 
complications to access those in the middle. I don't need that level of detail 
now. All thoughts are welcomed even if they are negative about certain faces. 
Tell me which face you have and why you like it, or why you don't. 


  Warmly, 
  Wayne 


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Re: Apple Watch face input wanted

[Jennie Facer]

Hi there,

If I were you, I would check out the modular face. I believe that has 6 
complications. I don't remember swiping between them, but it has been forever 
since I have used it. i use the infographic with 8 complications which you said 
you did not want. It is somewhat easy to get to them as well, but sometimes I 
do have to swipe.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On Aug 5, 2023, at 10:31 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Greetings. I have an Apple Watch Series 6 running WatchOS 9.4 I think. 
> Anyway, I'm wanting to change from my simple face with 4 complications and 
> the time and date in the center to a face that offers 1 to 2 additional 
> complications. I don't want or need a face that has 8 slots. I would like to 
> find accessible faces which offer 5 or 6 complications, along with the time 
> and date. I want to be able to touch a part of the display to hear the 
> relevant information. I've used one of the infograh faces before that has 
> spaces for 8 complications. While that was cool, I often found that I had to 
> swipe between complications to access those in the middle. I don't need that 
> level of detail now. All thoughts are welcomed even if they are negative 
> about certain faces. Tell me which face you have and why you like it, or why 
> you don't. 
> 
> Warmly, 
> Wayne 
> 
> Wayne Merritt
> JAWS Certified, 2023
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> http://goodreads.com/waynesbooks
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