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That sounds like a description for a novel setting. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Another example of Be My AI

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".

The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 

In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting. 

In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains 
partially obscured by clouds. The sky above is overcast.

One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in 
connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer 
and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now 
we have more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 
30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".

The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and 
the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 
6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description 
didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.

The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before 
this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not 
incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood 
still looks fairly fresh.

The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a 
double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board 
across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is 
an approx. 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses 
down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre 
field and green area around that.

Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are 
hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this 
fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want 
them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's 
windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days 
our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our 
driveway in front of the house and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 
babies in toe walked by around 3 during the night.

Anyways, the rest of the description is also correct, around that field in the 
back ar tall poppler trees which are turning yellow now and you can see some 
houses a couple of hundred metres away and then looking further across the 
valley Hudson Bay Mountain which is a little over 8000 feet tall rises up and 
by now it's got a bit of fresh snow on the top, but Be My AI didn't pick that 
up because it may very well be obscured by the clouds today. There is probably 
also some smoke from a nearby forest fire because it definitely smells smoky 
out today.

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Re: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Richard Turner

From the notice sent out by Be My Eyes, they will be including more and more people into what they are calling an open beta. Eventually, that will mean everyone. I believe this will be done through updates, so keep your app updated. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 25, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:Am I to understand (for those of you who aren't on the Beta, but who have this feature), that the feature will come included via an app update within the App Store? Really looking forward to giving it a go!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 sep 2023, a la(s) 3:50 p.m., Feliciano Godoy  escribió:




Be my eyes app on the App Store. The AI feature is a part of it.
Feliciano
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On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Richard  wrote:






 

Is Be My AI in beta? I’m not finding it in the App Store.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI


 

Here’s a partial view of the courtyard at my apartment complex.


 


The picture shows a cozy outdoor area. In the foreground, there are three palm trees with long, slender trunks and large, arching fronds. The ground is covered with small plants and mulch. To the left, there is a narrow concrete walkway
 leading to a metal gate. The gate is silver and has vertical bars. Beyond the gate, you can see a glimpse of a swimming pool with turquoise water, surrounded by more palm trees. The walls on either side of the walkway are textured, and the one on the right
 is adorned with a small rectangular window. The area looks like a small garden or courtyard in a residential setting. The sunlight is filtering through the palm fronds, casting shadows on the walkway.


 


And here’s a glimpse of my music room.


 






The picture shows a room with a collection of guitars and amplifiers. There are six guitars hanging on the wall. From left to right, the first guitar is a sunburst color with a white pickguard, the second is red with a black pickguard,
 the third is also red but with a white pickguard, the fourth is a natural wood color acoustic guitar, the fifth is a sunburst color with a white pickguard, and the sixth is a natural wood color with a black pickguard.


 


Below the guitars, on the floor, there are three amplifiers and a black backpack. The amplifier on the left is the largest and has a black exterior with two speakers. The middle amplifier is smaller and also
 black with a single speaker. The amplifier on the right is black and similar in size to the middle one but has a label that reads "GK GALLIEN-KRUEGER". The black backpack is placed between the left and middle amplifiers. The carpet is gray and the walls are
 painted in a light beige color. On Sep 25, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
Hi Alan,
 
Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my intelligent comments
藍
If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.
If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI


 

Sieghard, 


 


Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than the audiobook I'm currently reading. 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone







On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the picture,
 then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff
 like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one raised bed, but it's off the
 picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, here is the

Re: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio

Am I to understand (for those of you who aren't on the Beta, but who have this feature), that the feature will come included via an app update within the App Store? Really looking forward to giving it a go!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 sep 2023, a la(s) 3:50 p.m., Feliciano Godoy  escribió:




Be my eyes app on the App Store. The AI feature is a part of it.
Feliciano
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On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Richard  wrote:






 

Is Be My AI in beta? I’m not finding it in the App Store.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI


 

Here’s a partial view of the courtyard at my apartment complex.


 


The picture shows a cozy outdoor area. In the foreground, there are three palm trees with long, slender trunks and large, arching fronds. The ground is covered with small plants and mulch. To the left, there is a narrow concrete walkway
 leading to a metal gate. The gate is silver and has vertical bars. Beyond the gate, you can see a glimpse of a swimming pool with turquoise water, surrounded by more palm trees. The walls on either side of the walkway are textured, and the one on the right
 is adorned with a small rectangular window. The area looks like a small garden or courtyard in a residential setting. The sunlight is filtering through the palm fronds, casting shadows on the walkway.


 


And here’s a glimpse of my music room.


 






The picture shows a room with a collection of guitars and amplifiers. There are six guitars hanging on the wall. From left to right, the first guitar is a sunburst color with a white pickguard, the second is red with a black pickguard,
 the third is also red but with a white pickguard, the fourth is a natural wood color acoustic guitar, the fifth is a sunburst color with a white pickguard, and the sixth is a natural wood color with a black pickguard.


 


Below the guitars, on the floor, there are three amplifiers and a black backpack. The amplifier on the left is the largest and has a black exterior with two speakers. The middle amplifier is smaller and also
 black with a single speaker. The amplifier on the right is black and similar in size to the middle one but has a label that reads "GK GALLIEN-KRUEGER". The black backpack is placed between the left and middle amplifiers. The carpet is gray and the walls are
 painted in a light beige color. On Sep 25, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
Hi Alan,
 
Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my intelligent comments
藍
If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.
If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI


 

Sieghard, 


 


Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than the audiobook I'm currently reading. 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone







On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the picture,
 then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff
 like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one raised bed, but it's off the
 picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, here is the description:
 
The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a
 wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 
In the

Battery Widget for both iPhone And iPad?

2023-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio

How would I create a battery widget (like what size or with what 
characteristics), so that if I'm on my iPhone, I could not only see how much 
battery remains on my iPhone, but on my iPad as well? And the other way around: 
when I'm on my iPad, i could see not only my iPad's battery charge premaining, 
but also see my iPhone's remaining battery status? Both devices are under the 
same Apple account.
Thanks in advance for info.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

2023-09-25 Thread Tom Lange

it’s nice to know that faces are now included in the descriptions, as in:The picture you've sent is a close-up of an elderly man who is smiling. He has a joyful _expression_ on his face. He has grey hair and is wearing a royal blue shirt. The background is a plain light-colored wall with a small portion of what seems to be some equipment or furniture in the right corner.On Sep 25, 2023, at 12:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







And I'd say it's a huge improvement over no description which is what we had before.
Here is what Jaws picture smart gave me for the outdoor photo I posted the description for:
 
This tag describes the photo
Sky.
These tags probably describe the photo
Building, Plant, Slope, Tree, Water.
These tags possibly describe the photo
Landscape, Stairs, Trunk, Urban design.
 
Pretty useless compared to what Be My AI gives you and I can definitely say this with confidence since I know that what Be My AI described is for the most part not just close but dead on and what Picture Smart gave me gives me a very vague
 indication that it's probably an outdoor shot with sky, trees, plants and some sort of building, not sure where the water reference comes from since there is no water in sight unlers to the water which one would assume is in the hose Be My AI described, but
 which Picture Smart didn't mention.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS


 
Well okay, it does say "cozy", but that I think is still an improvement over the previous description I mentioned.
Evan
 

On 9/25/2023 3:13 PM, Evan Reese wrote:


I noticed that the description did not contain any of those subjective elements such as "adorable" dog with "soulful" eyes or whatever that was that another recent poster sent over. I think that is to the good.
Evan
 

On 9/25/2023 2:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, painting or even just a room is amazing.
I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day and here is what Be My AI described:
 
The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above the dresser is plain with a light gray color.

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back of the chair.

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, there is an orange toy.

The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.
 
All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost white labrador guide dog.

The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be visible
 and not the keyboard.
 


From:
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 On Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS


 
Note personally identifiable information has been removed.
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS
Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's describing capabilities
Hi dennis, 
 
We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!

 
Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our
iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will
have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app updated.

 
While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a guide dog, using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and simple. Once you have
access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take a picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed description
of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more information. Be My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with more to come.

 
And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you want to check its results, or if you just need a little more assistance than Be My
AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated volunteers, just

Re: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Feliciano Godoy

Be my eyes app on the App Store. The AI feature is a part of it.
Feliciano
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On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Richard  wrote:


Is Be My AI in beta? I’m not finding it in the App Store.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

Here’s a partial view of the courtyard at my apartment complex.

The picture shows a cozy outdoor area. In the foreground, there are three palm 
trees with long, slender trunks and large, arching fronds. The ground is 
covered with small plants and mulch. To the left, there is a narrow concrete 
walkway leading to a metal gate. The gate is silver and has vertical bars. 
Beyond the gate, you can see a glimpse of a swimming pool with turquoise water, 
surrounded by more palm trees. The walls on either side of the walkway are 
textured, and the one on the right is adorned with a small rectangular window. 
The area looks like a small garden or courtyard in a residential setting. The 
sunlight is filtering through the palm fronds, casting shadows on the walkway.

And here’s a glimpse of my music room.



The picture shows a room with a collection of guitars and amplifiers. There are 
six guitars hanging on the wall. From left to right, the first guitar is a 
sunburst color with a white pickguard, the second is red with a black 
pickguard, the third is also red but with a white pickguard, the fourth is a 
natural wood color acoustic guitar, the fifth is a sunburst color with a white 
pickguard, and the sixth is a natural wood color with a black pickguard.

Below the guitars, on the floor, there are three amplifiers and a black 
backpack. The amplifier on the left is the largest and has a black exterior 
with two speakers. The middle amplifier is smaller and also black with a single 
speaker. The amplifier on the right is black and similar in size to the middle 
one but has a label that reads "GK GALLIEN-KRUEGER". The black backpack is 
placed between the left and middle amplifiers. The carpet is gray and the walls 
are painted in a light beige color. On Sep 25, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard 
Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Alan,

Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my 
intelligent comments 藍
If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just 
listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.
If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small 
Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

Sieghard,

Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than 
the audiobook I'm currently reading.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn.
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting.
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance,

Re: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Alan Lemly

Hi Sieghard, Rolling on the floor laughing with you. I'd bye your book. I haven't read Mad Honey by Jodi Picoult but I've read several of her other books. Right now, I'm still recovering from reading Holly, Stephen King's latest. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 25, 2023, at 3:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Hi Alan,
 
Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my intelligent comments
藍
If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.
If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI


 

Sieghard, 


 


Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than the audiobook I'm currently reading. 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the picture,
 then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff
 like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one raised bed, but it's off the
 picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, here is the description:
 
The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a
 wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that appears to be ready for planting. 
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains partially obscured
 by clouds. The sky above is overcast.
 
One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now we have
 more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description
 didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.
The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood
 still looks fairly fresh.
The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is an approx.
 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre field and green area around that.
Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want
 them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our driveway in front of the house
 and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 babies in toe walked by around 3 during the night.
Anyways, the rest of the description is also correct, around that field in

RE: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Richard

Is Be My AI in beta? I’m not finding it in the App Store.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

Here’s a partial view of the courtyard at my apartment complex.

The picture shows a cozy outdoor area. In the foreground, there are three palm 
trees with long, slender trunks and large, arching fronds. The ground is 
covered with small plants and mulch. To the left, there is a narrow concrete 
walkway leading to a metal gate. The gate is silver and has vertical bars. 
Beyond the gate, you can see a glimpse of a swimming pool with turquoise water, 
surrounded by more palm trees. The walls on either side of the walkway are 
textured, and the one on the right is adorned with a small rectangular window. 
The area looks like a small garden or courtyard in a residential setting. The 
sunlight is filtering through the palm fronds, casting shadows on the walkway.

And here’s a glimpse of my music room.

The picture shows a room with a collection of guitars and amplifiers. There are 
six guitars hanging on the wall. From left to right, the first guitar is a 
sunburst color with a white pickguard, the second is red with a black 
pickguard, the third is also red but with a white pickguard, the fourth is a 
natural wood color acoustic guitar, the fifth is a sunburst color with a white 
pickguard, and the sixth is a natural wood color with a black pickguard.

Below the guitars, on the floor, there are three amplifiers and a black 
backpack. The amplifier on the left is the largest and has a black exterior 
with two speakers. The middle amplifier is smaller and also black with a single 
speaker. The amplifier on the right is black and similar in size to the middle 
one but has a label that reads "GK GALLIEN-KRUEGER". The black backpack is 
placed between the left and middle amplifiers. The carpet is gray and the walls 
are painted in a light beige color. On Sep 25, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard 
Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Alan,

Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my 
intelligent comments 藍

If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just 
listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.

If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small 
Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

Sieghard, 

Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than 
the audiobook I'm currently reading. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".

The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 

In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting. 

In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains 
partially obscured by clouds. The sky above is overcast.

One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in 
connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer 
and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water

RE: Be my AI and pictures?

2023-09-25 Thread Richard

There is some reason to be upset. As users, we should all be able to use our 
best judgment about whether or not to show images of people. The developer 
decision to restrict the information we receive from the app seems 
paternalistic and condescending.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
James
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

 

It was professional in its response.  Yeah, true, I was nasty with it but it’s 
AI so it has no feelings.  Hahaha!  I’m normally a nice guy but sometimes I’m 
not and it shows as I age.

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
CHELA Robles mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 7:11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures? 

 

Regarding the cupcakes and you’ve been nasty with being AI. I’m wondering what 
its response was after your nasty response to it. W Was it be nice? Lol!

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 16, 2023, at 11:29 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

Ugg.

I took a picture of granola bars and stevia. Said faces in pictures. I closed 
and re-opened the app and fictures worked.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

 

There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was 
open for us to peruse and report issues.

 

 

I’ll give you an example.

 

I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it 
could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it 
that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better!

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> >
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures? 

 

Hello,

 

There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis.

 

The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then 
stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something 
to do with Open AI themselves.

 

I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike 
anything we’ve ever known!

 

Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to 
shame!

 

Take a look at:

 

 

 



 

 Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game 
Changing Real-World Use Cases

 

 applevis.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Malcolm Parfitt

 

On 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man 
with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture 
of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I 
wrote to complain about that. 


Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)



On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me 
rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last 
time. Here is the email address again to write into.

supp...@bemyeyes.com  

 

On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader mailto:maderra...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again 
and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think 
a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my 
eyes.com

RE: Be my AI and pictures?

2023-09-25 Thread Richard

If you don’t watch your language with Siri, the phone responds, “That’s not 
nice!”

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

Regarding the cupcakes and you’ve been nasty with being AI. I’m wondering what 
its response was after your nasty response to it. W Was it be nice? Lol!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2023, at 11:29 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Ugg.

I took a picture of granola bars and stevia. Said faces in pictures. I closed 
and re-opened the app and fictures worked.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was 
open for us to peruse and report issues.

I’ll give you an example.

I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it 
could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it 
that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better!

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> >
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures? 

Hello,

There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis.

The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then 
stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something 
to do with Open AI themselves.

I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike 
anything we’ve ever known!

Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to 
shame!

Take a look at:

 Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game 
Changing Real-World Use Cases

 applevis.com

Malcolm Parfitt

On 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man 
with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture 
of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I 
wrote to complain about that. 

Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me 
rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last 
time. Here is the email address again to write into.

supp...@bemyeyes.com  

On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader mailto:maderra...@icloud.com> > wrote:

I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again 
and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think 
a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my 
eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to think 
maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least you're 
letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much feedback as 
you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really hurt people by 
doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just recently passed away 
and I can't even look at photos of what you look like now because they have 
removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very very sad. We should all 
be out raged because this is not the way that an AI should be for blind people 
it's very disrespectful and discriminatory. 

Best regards.

Jerry Mader

On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr

RE: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Mohammad Fazil

I am sorry, I misplaced the message about the copy button, may I know again how 
to find the copy button?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another example of Be My AI

Hi Alan,

Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my 
intelligent comments 藍
If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just 
listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.
If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small 
Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

Sieghard,

Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than 
the audiobook I'm currently reading.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn.
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting.
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains 
partially obscured by clouds. The sky above is overcast.

One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in 
connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer 
and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now 
we have more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 
30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and 
the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 
6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description 
didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.
The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before 
this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not 
incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood 
still looks fairly fresh.
The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a 
double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board 
across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is 
an approx. 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses 
down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre 
field and green area around that.
Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are 
hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this 
fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want 
them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's 
windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days 
our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our 
driveway in front of the house and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 
babies in toe walked by

Re: Copy Button in Be My AI?

2023-09-25 Thread Lyne

Thanks, I'm not.

Lyne

> Le 25 sept. 2023 à 13:27, mbwh...@gmail.com a écrit :
> 
> 
> I found that option a few weeks ago.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Copy Button in Be My AI?
>  
> If you have the AI feature, you are beta.
> But, what I found accidentally is that if you flick up with one finger there 
> is a copy button.
> Since I have the beta, I don't know if it was there before.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 10:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Copy Button in Be My AI?
>  
> Hello, are you beta?
> I don't have picture in my app.
> 
> Lyne
>  
> 
> Le 25 sept. 2023 à 12:54, Mohammad Fazil  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi, Group.
> Other day, I found Copy button in Be My AI of Be My Eyes and copied the 
> description of my photo given by Be My Eyes.
> I can not recall how I found it, could someone, please, remind me where I 
> should look for that? Thanks!
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Re: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Tom Lange

Here’s a partial view of the courtyard at my apartment complex.The picture shows a cozy outdoor area. In the foreground, there are three palm trees with long, slender trunks and large, arching fronds. The ground is covered with small plants and mulch. To the left, there is a narrow concrete walkway leading to a metal gate. The gate is silver and has vertical bars. Beyond the gate, you can see a glimpse of a swimming pool with turquoise water, surrounded by more palm trees. The walls on either side of the walkway are textured, and the one on the right is adorned with a small rectangular window. The area looks like a small garden or courtyard in a residential setting. The sunlight is filtering through the palm fronds, casting shadows on the walkway.And here’s a glimpse of my music room.The picture shows a room with a collection of guitars and amplifiers. There are six guitars hanging on the wall. From left to right, the first guitar is a sunburst color with a white pickguard, the second is red with a black pickguard, the third is also red but with a white pickguard, the fourth is a natural wood color acoustic guitar, the fifth is a sunburst color with a white pickguard, and the sixth is a natural wood color with a black pickguard.Below the guitars, on the floor, there are three amplifiers and a black backpack. The amplifier on the left is the largest and has a black exterior with two speakers. The middle amplifier is smaller and also black with a single speaker. The amplifier on the right is black and similar in size to the middle one but has a label that reads "GK GALLIEN-KRUEGER". The black backpack is placed between the left and middle amplifiers. The carpet is gray and the walls are painted in a light beige color. On Sep 25, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Hi Alan,
 
Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my intelligent comments
藍
If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.
If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI


 

Sieghard, 


 


Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than the audiobook I'm currently reading. 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the picture,
 then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff
 like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one raised bed, but it's off the
 picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, here is the description:
 
The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a
 wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that appears to be ready for planting. 
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains partially obscured
 by clouds. The sky above is overcast.
 
One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now we have
 more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall

RE: Another example of Be My AI

Hi Alan,

Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my 
intelligent comments 藍
If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just 
listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.
If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small 
Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

Sieghard,

Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than 
the audiobook I'm currently reading.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn.
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting.
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains 
partially obscured by clouds. The sky above is overcast.

One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in 
connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer 
and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now 
we have more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 
30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and 
the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 
6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description 
didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.
The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before 
this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not 
incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood 
still looks fairly fresh.
The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a 
double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board 
across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is 
an approx. 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses 
down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre 
field and green area around that.
Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are 
hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this 
fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want 
them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's 
windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days 
our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our 
driveway in front of the house and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 
babies in toe walked by around 3 during the night.
Anyways, the rest of the description is also correct, around that field in the 
back ar tall poppler trees which are turning yellow now and you can see some 
houses a couple of hundred metres away and then looking further across the 
valley Hudson Bay Mountain which is a little over 8000 feet tall rises up and 
by now it's got a bit of fresh snow on the top, but Be My AI didn't pick that

Re: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Feliciano Godoy

I took a picture while I was at the SoFi Stadium this weekend for a concert, 
this is what I got.

The picture shows the interior of a large stadium with a transparent roof, 
allowing natural light to enter. The stadium is named "SoFi Stadium" as seen on 
a large, oval-shaped screen hanging from the ceiling. This screen is displaying 
advertisements for Ed Sheeran and Ticketmaster, along with some visuals in red 
and blue colors.
Feliciano
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On Sep 25, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Sieghard,

Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than 
the audiobook I'm currently reading.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn.
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting.
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains 
partially obscured by clouds. The sky above is overcast.

One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in 
connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer 
and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now 
we have more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 
30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and 
the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 
6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description 
didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.
The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before 
this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not 
incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood 
still looks fairly fresh.
The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a 
double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board 
across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is 
an approx. 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses 
down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre 
field and green area around that.
Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are 
hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this 
fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want 
them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's 
windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days 
our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our 
driveway in front of the house and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 
babies in toe walked by around 3 during the night.
Anyways, the rest of the description is also correct, around that field in the 
back ar tall poppler trees which are turning yellow now and you can see some 
houses a couple of hundred metres away and then looking further

Re: Another example of Be My AI

2023-09-25 Thread Alan Lemly

Sieghard, Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than the audiobook I'm currently reading. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the picture,
then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one raised bed, but it's off the
picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, here is the description:
The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn.
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that appears to be ready for planting.
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains partially obscured
by clouds. The sky above is overcast.
One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now we have
more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description
didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.
The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood
still looks fairly fresh.
The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is an approx.
3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre field and green area around that.
Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want
them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our driveway in front of the house
and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 babies in toe walked by around 3 during the night.
Anyways, the rest of the description is also correct, around that field in the back ar tall poppler trees which are turning yellow now and you can see some houses a couple of hundred metres away and then looking further across the valley
Hudson Bay Mountain which is a little over 8000 feet tall rises up and by now it's got a bit of fresh snow on the top, but Be My AI didn't pick that up because it may very well be obscured by the clouds today. There is probably also some smoke from a nearby
forest fire because it definitely smells smoky out today.

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RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

And I'd say it's a huge improvement over no description which is what we had 
before.
Here is what Jaws picture smart gave me for the outdoor photo I posted the 
description for:

This tag describes the photo
Sky.
These tags probably describe the photo
Building, Plant, Slope, Tree, Water.
These tags possibly describe the photo
Landscape, Stairs, Trunk, Urban design.

Pretty useless compared to what Be My AI gives you and I can definitely say 
this with confidence since I know that what Be My AI described is for the most 
part not just close but dead on and what Picture Smart gave me gives me a very 
vague indication that it's probably an outdoor shot with sky, trees, plants and 
some sort of building, not sure where the water reference comes from since 
there is no water in sight unlers to the water which one would assume is in the 
hose Be My AI described, but which Picture Smart didn't mention.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS


Well okay, it does say "cozy", but that I think is still an improvement over 
the previous description I mentioned.

Evan


On 9/25/2023 3:13 PM, Evan Reese wrote:

I noticed that the description did not contain any of those subjective elements 
such as "adorable" dog with "soulful" eyes or whatever that was that another 
recent poster sent over. I think that is to the good.

Evan


On 9/25/2023 2:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, 
painting or even just a room is amazing.
I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day 
and here is what Be My AI described:


The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is 
a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above 
the dresser is plain with a light gray color.

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window 
has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a 
cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back 
of the chair.

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The 
dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, 
there is an orange toy.
The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost 
white labrador guide dog.
The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop 
on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I 
was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be 
visible and not the keyboard.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS
Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's 
describing capabilities
Hi dennis,

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of 
thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!

Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My 
Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our
iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more 
and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will
have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app 
updated.

While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a guide dog, 
using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and simple. Once you have
access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take a 
picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed description
of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more information. Be 
My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with more to come.

And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you want to 
check its results, or if you just need a little more assistance than Be My
AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated volunteers, 
just like before.

You can
learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post
or by visiting the
Help Center
on our website.

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that hundreds of 
thousands of people will now be able to experience this exciting new tool.
Make sure to share the news with your

RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

But it did say "cozy room" and in the other example I just posted, it described 
the picture as a "serene outdoor setting", it also mentions "magestic 
mountains" so definitely descriptive and somewhat subjective terms. Not 
everybody would describe the coast range here as "magestic", maybe "rugged" as 
it's more wildenress than anything else, but the mountains are typically no 
more than 8000 or 9000 feet so not exactly like 12,000 or 15,000 foot peaks.
But hey, I'm not complaining and even though my guide dog is almost 10 years 
old, most people still call him cute or adorable when he comes with his toy in 
his mouth etc. so there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS


I noticed that the description did not contain any of those subjective elements 
such as "adorable" dog with "soulful" eyes or whatever that was that another 
recent poster sent over. I think that is to the good.

Evan


On 9/25/2023 2:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, 
painting or even just a room is amazing.
I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day 
and here is what Be My AI described:


The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is 
a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above 
the dresser is plain with a light gray color.

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window 
has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a 
cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back 
of the chair.

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The 
dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, 
there is an orange toy.
The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost 
white labrador guide dog.
The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop 
on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I 
was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be 
visible and not the keyboard.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS
Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's 
describing capabilities
Hi dennis,

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of 
thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!

Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My 
Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our
iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more 
and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will
have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app 
updated.

While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a guide dog, 
using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and simple. Once you have
access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take a 
picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed description
of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more information. Be 
My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with more to come.

And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you want to 
check its results, or if you just need a little more assistance than Be My
AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated volunteers, 
just like before.

You can
learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post
or by visiting the
Help Center
on our website.

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that hundreds of 
thousands of people will now be able to experience this exciting new tool.
Make sure to share the news with your friends, family and colleagues!

Right now we’ll only be releasing Be My AI with users who use iOS devices. But 
Android users fear not. We are currently in a closed beta test of Be My
AI on Android devices, and we hope to make it more broadly available for open 
beta testing in the coming months. If you are interested in joining the Android
beta test, you can already
sign up for the Android

Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

2023-09-25 Thread Evan Reese

Well okay, it does say "cozy", but that I think is still an improvement 
over the previous description I mentioned.


Evan


On 9/25/2023 3:13 PM, Evan Reese wrote:


I noticed that the description did not contain any of those subjective 
elements such as "adorable" dog with "soulful" eyes or whatever that 
was that another recent poster sent over. I think that is to the good.


Evan


On 9/25/2023 2:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of 
a photo, painting or even just a room is amazing.


I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the 
other day and here is what Be My AI described:


The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, 
there is a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of 
it. The wall above the dresser is plain with a light gray color.


On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. 
The window has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.


In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and 
a cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped 
over the back of the chair.


In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray 
mat. The dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar 
breed. Next to the dog, there is an orange toy.


The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the 
window.


All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a 
yellow, almost white labrador guide dog.


The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my 
open laptop on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at 
about hip height when I was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit 
higher, only the screen would be visible and not the keyboard.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Dennis Long

*Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.

Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My 
AI's describing capabilities


Hi dennis,

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to 
hundreds of thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!


Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the 
team at Be My Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing 
Be My AI to our


iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be 
adding more and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an 
iOS device will


have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep 
your app updated.


While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a 
guide dog, using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and 
simple. Once you have


access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and 
take a picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a 
detailed description


of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more 
information. Be My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with 
more to come.


And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you 
want to check its results, or if you just need a little more 
assistance than Be My


AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated 
volunteers, just like before.


You can

learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post

or by visiting the

Help Center

on our website.

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that 
hundreds of thousands of people will now be able to experience this 
exciting new tool.


Make sure to share the news with your friends, family and colleagues!

Right now we’ll only be releasing Be My AI with users who use iOS 
devices. But Android users fear not. We are currently in a closed 
beta test of Be My


AI on Android devices, and we hope to make it more broadly available 
for open beta testing in the coming months. If you are interested in 
joining the Android


beta test, you can already

sign up for the Android waitlist

in the Be My Eyes app.

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to us at

supp...@bemyeyes.com.

And happy exploring!

P.S: Do you know another blind or low-vision person who can benefit 
from this new feature? Make sure to forward this email to them and 
invite them to try out Be My AI on the Be My Eyes app!


Thank you!

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Another example of Be My AI

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn.
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting.
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains 
partially obscured by clouds. The sky above is overcast.

One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in 
connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer 
and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now 
we have more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 
30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and 
the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 
6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description 
didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.
The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before 
this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not 
incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood 
still looks fairly fresh.
The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a 
double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board 
across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is 
an approx. 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses 
down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre 
field and green area around that.
Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are 
hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this 
fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want 
them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's 
windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days 
our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our 
driveway in front of the house and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 
babies in toe walked by around 3 during the night.
Anyways, the rest of the description is also correct, around that field in the 
back ar tall poppler trees which are turning yellow now and you can see some 
houses a couple of hundred metres away and then looking further across the 
valley Hudson Bay Mountain which is a little over 8000 feet tall rises up and 
by now it's got a bit of fresh snow on the top, but Be My AI didn't pick that 
up because it may very well be obscured by the clouds today. There is probably 
also some smoke from a nearby forest fire because it definitely smells smoky 
out today.

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RE: not grasping autoCorrect

Thanks - it worked, and I'm happy. 

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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 2:51 PM
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Subject: RE: not grasping autoCorrect

Go to Settings > General > Keyboard
Now swipe right until you get to the heading "All Keyboards"
If you continue to swipe right you will find the following settings:
Auto capitilization
auto correction
Check Spelling
Enable Caps Lock
Predictive
Smart Punctuation
Slide to Type
Character Preview
Period Shortcut
You primarily would want to turn off auto correction, predictive and maybe 
check spelling and smart punctuation.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not grasping autoCorrect

I would like to disable auto complete. How can I do that, please? 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: not grasping autoCorrect

In an attempt to improve my writing and perhaps to assist others, I am at long 
last playing around with functions such as autoCorrect and Predictive text. I 
really don’t get autoCorrect. In Notes on my 12 pro still running iOS16, 
sometimes I get a bubble, mostly I don’t. It doesn’t seem like AugoCorrect in 
Word, where its purpose is to correct whole words. I guess it uses the keyboard 
dictionary, which I believe to be uneditable. I make an intentional error and 
hear nothing. If I hear a bubble, and  this can happen in the middle of a word, 
I’m not entirely sure what to do. I also gather it is good to turn Spoken 
Content on in General Accessibility settings, but this isn’t a VoiceOver 
setting, so I don’t understand the interplay of the settings. I received a 
document from Apple Disability Support which didn’t answer my questions. 

Can anybody enlighten me about all this? 
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Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

2023-09-25 Thread Evan Reese

I noticed that the description did not contain any of those subjective 
elements such as "adorable" dog with "soulful" eyes or whatever that was 
that another recent poster sent over. I think that is to the good.


Evan


On 9/25/2023 2:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of 
a photo, painting or even just a room is amazing.


I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the 
other day and here is what Be My AI described:


The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, 
there is a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of 
it. The wall above the dresser is plain with a light gray color.


On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. 
The window has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.


In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and 
a cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped 
over the back of the chair.


In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray 
mat. The dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. 
Next to the dog, there is an orange toy.


The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a 
yellow, almost white labrador guide dog.


The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my 
open laptop on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at 
about hip height when I was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit 
higher, only the screen would be visible and not the keyboard.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Dennis Long

*Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.

Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My 
AI's describing capabilities


Hi dennis,

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to 
hundreds of thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!


Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team 
at Be My Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My 
AI to our


iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be 
adding more and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an 
iOS device will


have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep 
your app updated.


While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a 
guide dog, using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and 
simple. Once you have


access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take 
a picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed 
description


of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more 
information. Be My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with 
more to come.


And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you 
want to check its results, or if you just need a little more 
assistance than Be My


AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated 
volunteers, just like before.


You can

learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post

or by visiting the

Help Center

on our website.

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that 
hundreds of thousands of people will now be able to experience this 
exciting new tool.


Make sure to share the news with your friends, family and colleagues!

Right now we’ll only be releasing Be My AI with users who use iOS 
devices. But Android users fear not. We are currently in a closed beta 
test of Be My


AI on Android devices, and we hope to make it more broadly available 
for open beta testing in the coming months. If you are interested in 
joining the Android


beta test, you can already

sign up for the Android waitlist

in the Be My Eyes app.

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to us at

supp...@bemyeyes.com.

And happy exploring!

P.S: Do you know another blind or low-vision person who can benefit 
from this new feature? Make sure to forward this email to them and 
invite them to try out Be My AI on the Be My Eyes app!


Thank you!

Mike, CEO of Be My Eyes

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RE: Pro vs Max

I do the same with the keyboard as you, Mary. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

Thanks, Kelly. So with regard to the screen on the 15 Pro, how is it for 
typing. I’m probably one of the few people who still tap taps with one finger 
on the keyboard, and after all this time with this phone, I’ve gotten fairly 
good at it. so I’m just curious about the size of the screen and how long it’s 
taking you to adjust, unless of course you’re using braille or an external 
keyboard.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2023, at 5:35 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I went with the newer phone now, because as I understand it next summer, I 
> won’t be able to update to the next version of iOS and if that’s going to be 
> the case, I decided I would get the newer model as early as possible because 
> I like to run test versions of the next OS release.
> 
> I will say the one other thing that I have noticed in how I use my phone that 
> is faster is the results of dictation being processed if I use the phone 
> dictation feature for text input.
> 
> I am generally someone who likes to keep my existing phone until I’m no 
> longer able to update the operating system. I had used my iPhone 5S until I 
> bought the 10R.
> 
> I am told that pictures from the 15 are visually noticeably better, but I 
> don’t really have a way to quantify that. I mean, yes, I understand the 
> megapixels and such as far as the technical specifics. I don’t know yet, if 
> that translates to more detail when using the various artificial intelligence 
> services to describe photos.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting. I also have a 10 r with which I am quite happy. But I was 
>> thinking about getting a 15 pro because it’s a lot newer and I thought it 
>> might have better performance better battery life and the better camera. 
>> But, Kelly, based on your comments, I’m thinking about not bothering.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I appreciate all the replies here.
>>> 
>>> I did go with the iPhone 15 Pro and have been using it since Friday. I 
>>> chose the Pro in large part because I prefer the smaller size. That said, 
>>> so far I’m really not noticing meaningful differences in most tasks between 
>>> my iPhone 10R and this 15 Pro. Apps might launch a bit faster but VoiceOver 
>>> performance when moving between items is about the same and add-heavy web 
>>> sites with videos that play muted by default still seem to bring VoiceOver 
>>> to very problematic web performance.
>>> 
>>> I’m not saying any of this to be critical and it is too early to know about 
>>> battery performance.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 
 Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since I 
 am running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors up 
 frunt but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I phone 
 14 prow is 151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have always 
 gotten a case with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard Ontario 
 Canada.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Richard
 Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Pro vs Max
 
 I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My concern 
 is the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I hate to 
 haul around a case or belt  pouch. For any of you who use the Max, does it 
 fit into a shirt pocket? I guess I'll find out when I go to buy a phone.
 
 Richard Petty
 richard.pe...@earthlink.net
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Julian
 Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
 
 I was doing the same thing until I decided to upgrade to the 15 Pro. I so 
 wish that they would make a smart battery case for these phones.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> You made me laugh out loud, Andy.  Thank you so much.
> 
> I have more than a few appliances about which I feel the exact same way, 
> as you.
> 
> With a big smile,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
> 
> I still have the one i bought with my old iPhone 8 and it still works 
> with the SE 3rd

RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments

I most definitely agree with not getting an SE. 

-Original Message-
From: realman02 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments

I agree with not getting an SE. If you get a later model it will be supported 
longer by apple. You'r einvesting in a phone that should last you seveal years. 
 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Blackburn
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments

For how much longer will this model be supported?

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver 
 wrote:
>
> Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and 
> greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would 
> be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is 
> substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would 
> not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, 
> you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and 
> chords because the S.E. has the lightning port.
> Fred Olver - Original Message -
> From: "Terri Stimmel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM
> Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
>
>
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > 
> > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and 
> > opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with 
> > them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful.
> > 
> > 
> > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do 
> > it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. 
> > It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it.
> > 
> > 
> > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade 
> > now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so.
> > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the 
> > cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this 
> > phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, 
> > if I ever want to upgrade.
> > 
> > 
> > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service 
> > message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I 
> > could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me 
> > thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead.
> > 
> > 
> > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know 
> > some of this will be opinion. That is fine by me.
> > 
> > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these 
> > sorts of things than I do. That is something I have really come to 
> > appreciate over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of 
> > this list.
> > 
> > 
> > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want 
> > to hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see 
> > which one I might be most comfortable with.
> > 
> > 
> > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would 
> > know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. 
> > That would just be too large of a device for me.
> > 
> > 
> > I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. 
> > 
> > However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? 
> > 
> > 
> > I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of 
> > charging. I know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual 
> > charging blocks, because I have so many devices, that this just 
> > works better for me. Or, I have friends that come over, who need to charge 
> > their stuff.
> > 
> > 
> > I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the 
> > camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for 
> > it's camera.
> > 
> > 
> > However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. 
> > I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more 
> > than that though. I am still not always the best at taking a 
> > picture. I hope that this might improve in time. I just don't always 
> > understand how, or where to aim the camera.
> > 
> > 
> > Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have 
> > now, to the 14 pro, or the 15 pro?
> > 
> > 
> > I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of 
> > course, I won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store.
> > 
> > 
> > What do you all think? 
> > 
> > Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated. 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > 
> > Terri
> > 
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RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments

I'd probably check the 15 Pro. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Blackburn
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments

For how much longer will this model be supported?

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver 
 wrote:
>
> Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and 
> greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would 
> be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is 
> substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would 
> not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, 
> you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and 
> chords because the S.E. has the lightning port.
> Fred Olver - Original Message -
> From: "Terri Stimmel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM
> Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
>
>
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > 
> > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and 
> > opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with 
> > them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful.
> > 
> > 
> > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do 
> > it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. 
> > It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it.
> > 
> > 
> > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade 
> > now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so.
> > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the 
> > cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this 
> > phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, 
> > if I ever want to upgrade.
> > 
> > 
> > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service 
> > message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I 
> > could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me 
> > thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead.
> > 
> > 
> > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know 
> > some of this will be opinion. That is fine by me.
> > 
> > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these 
> > sorts of things than I do. That is something I have really come to 
> > appreciate over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of 
> > this list.
> > 
> > 
> > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want 
> > to hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see 
> > which one I might be most comfortable with.
> > 
> > 
> > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would 
> > know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. 
> > That would just be too large of a device for me.
> > 
> > 
> > I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. 
> > 
> > However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? 
> > 
> > 
> > I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of 
> > charging. I know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual 
> > charging blocks, because I have so many devices, that this just 
> > works better for me. Or, I have friends that come over, who need to charge 
> > their stuff.
> > 
> > 
> > I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the 
> > camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for 
> > it's camera.
> > 
> > 
> > However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. 
> > I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more 
> > than that though. I am still not always the best at taking a 
> > picture. I hope that this might improve in time. I just don't always 
> > understand how, or where to aim the camera.
> > 
> > 
> > Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have 
> > now, to the 14 pro, or the 15 pro?
> > 
> > 
> > I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of 
> > course, I won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store.
> > 
> > 
> > What do you all think? 
> > 
> > Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated. 
> > 
> > 
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RE: not grasping autoCorrect

The Settings in Spoken Content are only if you want auto correct on and make 
sure the selections are spoken.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not grasping autoCorrect

I could not find Auto Correct in Spoken Content; I'd like to turn mine off. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not grasping autoCorrect

Hello,

What you need to do is go into settings, accessibility, spoken content, and 
then turn auto correct on. Then it will announce what is in the bubble you 
hear. When you hear the word, press the spacebar to activate or put it in your 
document. Hope this helps.

Jenn

Jennie Facer 

On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:41 AM,  
 wrote:

In an attempt to improve my writing and perhaps to assist others, I am 
at long last playing around with functions such as autoCorrect and Predictive 
text. I really don’t get autoCorrect. In Notes on my 12 pro still running 
iOS16, sometimes I get a bubble, mostly I don’t. It doesn’t seem like 
AugoCorrect in Word, where its purpose is to correct whole words. I guess it 
uses the keyboard dictionary, which I believe to be uneditable. I make an 
intentional error and hear nothing. If I hear a bubble, and  this can happen in 
the middle of a word, I’m not entirely sure what to do. I also gather it is 
good to turn Spoken Content on in General Accessibility settings, but this 
isn’t a VoiceOver setting, so I don’t understand the interplay of the settings. 
I received a document from Apple Disability Support which didn’t answer my 
questions. 

Can anybody enlighten me about all this? 

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RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

I have only used Shortcuts a little for some simple stuff, but I think it is a 
fairly powerful feature and I would say it should be possible to do what you 
describe, but I can't give you step by step instructions for it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

I’ve never really played around with shortcuts so don’t’ know if it’s either 
possible or if a shortcut already exists, but could you set something up where 
you can say something like “describe image” and have a photo taken and 
subsequently activate the BeMyAI feature wihtout having to open the BeMyEyes 
app or go into the sharesheet to select the same option? That or tie such a 
shortcut to the new action button skipping the voice prompt all together?

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, 
painting or even just a room is amazing.
I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day 
and here is what Be My AI described:

The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is 
a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above 
the dresser is plain with a light gray color.

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window 
has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a 
cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back 
of the chair.

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The 
dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, 
there is an orange toy.
The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost 
white labrador guide dog.
The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop 
on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I 
was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be 
visible and not the keyboard.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS
Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's 
describing capabilities
Hi dennis,

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of 
thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!

Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My 
Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our
iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more 
and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will
have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app 
updated.

While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a guide dog, 
using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and simple. Once you have
access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take a 
picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed description
of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more information. Be 
My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with more to come.

And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you want to 
check its results, or if you just need a little more assistance than Be My
AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated volunteers, 
just like before.

You can
learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post
or by visiting the
Help Center
on our website.

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that hundreds of 
thousands of people will now be able to experience this exciting new tool.
Make sure to share the news with your friends, family and colleagues!

Right now we’ll only be releasing Be My AI with users who use iOS devices. But 
Android users fear not. We are currently in a closed beta test of Be My
AI on Android devices, and we hope to make it more broadly available for open 
beta testing in the coming months. If you are interested in joining the Android
beta test, you can already
sign up for the Android waitlist
in the Be My Eyes app.

If you have any

Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

That is kind of funny to hear describe things as a cozy room. I took a picture 
of my living room, and it called it a cozy room as well.

I was at a restaurant earlier today and tried the same technology on the menu 
and it did a great job at reading everything off the menu

On Sep 25, 2023, at 1:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, 
painting or even just a room is amazing.
I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day 
and here is what Be My AI described:


The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is 
a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above 
the dresser is plain with a light gray color.

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window 
has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a 
cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back 
of the chair.

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The 
dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, 
there is an orange toy.
The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost 
white labrador guide dog.
The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop 
on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I 
was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be 
visible and not the keyboard.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS
Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's 
describing capabilities
Hi dennis,

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of 
thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!

Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My 
Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our
iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more 
and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will
have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app 
updated.

While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a guide dog, 
using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and simple. Once you have
access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take a 
picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed description
of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more information. Be 
My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with more to come.

And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you want to 
check its results, or if you just need a little more assistance than Be My
AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated volunteers, 
just like before.

You can
learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post
or by visiting the
Help Center
on our website.

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that hundreds of 
thousands of people will now be able to experience this exciting new tool.
Make sure to share the news with your friends, family and colleagues!

Right now we’ll only be releasing Be My AI with users who use iOS devices. But 
Android users fear not. We are currently in a closed beta test of Be My
AI on Android devices, and we hope to make it more broadly available for open 
beta testing in the coming months. If you are interested in joining the Android
beta test, you can already
sign up for the Android waitlist
in the Be My Eyes app.

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to us at
supp...@bemyeyes.com.


And happy exploring!

P.S: Do you know another blind or low-vision person who can benefit from this 
new feature? Make sure to forward this email to them and invite them to try out 
Be My AI on the Be My Eyes app!
Thank you!

Mike, CEO of Be My Eyes
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RE: not grasping autoCorrect

Go to Settings > General > Keyboard
Now swipe right until you get to the heading "All Keyboards"
If you continue to swipe right you will find the following settings:
Auto capitilization
auto correction
Check Spelling
Enable Caps Lock
Predictive
Smart Punctuation
Slide to Type
Character Preview
Period Shortcut
You primarily would want to turn off auto correction, predictive and maybe 
check spelling and smart punctuation.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not grasping autoCorrect

I would like to disable auto complete. How can I do that, please? 

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dlmlao...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: not grasping autoCorrect

In an attempt to improve my writing and perhaps to assist others, I am at long 
last playing around with functions such as autoCorrect and Predictive text. I 
really don’t get autoCorrect. In Notes on my 12 pro still running iOS16, 
sometimes I get a bubble, mostly I don’t. It doesn’t seem like AugoCorrect in 
Word, where its purpose is to correct whole words. I guess it uses the keyboard 
dictionary, which I believe to be uneditable. I make an intentional error and 
hear nothing. If I hear a bubble, and  this can happen in the middle of a word, 
I’m not entirely sure what to do. I also gather it is good to turn Spoken 
Content on in General Accessibility settings, but this isn’t a VoiceOver 
setting, so I don’t understand the interplay of the settings. I received a 
document from Apple Disability Support which didn’t answer my questions. 
 
Can anybody enlighten me about all this? 
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RE: not grasping autoCorrect

Big time THANK YOU for that!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lyne
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 11:00 AM
To: Jennie Facer 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not grasping autoCorrect

You can turn off auto correction in settings, general and keyboard.

Lyne

> Le 24 sept. 2023 à 10:44, Jennie Facer  a écrit :
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RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

2023-09-25 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz

I’ve never really played around with shortcuts so don’t’ know if it’s either 
possible or if a shortcut already exists, but could you set something up where 
you can say something like “describe image” and have a photo taken and 
subsequently activate the BeMyAI feature wihtout having to open the BeMyEyes 
app or go into the sharesheet to select the same option? That or tie such a 
shortcut to the new action button skipping the voice prompt all together?

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

 

The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, 
painting or even just a room is amazing.

I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day 
and here is what Be My AI described:

 

The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is 
a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above 
the dresser is plain with a light gray color. 

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window 
has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser. 

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a 
cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back 
of the chair. 

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The 
dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, 
there is an orange toy. 

The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

 

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost 
white labrador guide dog. 

The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop 
on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I 
was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be 
visible and not the keyboard.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

 

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.

Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's 
describing capabilities

Hi dennis, 

 

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of 
thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide! 

 

Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My 
Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our

iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more 
and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will

have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app 
updated. 

 

While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a guide dog, 
using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and simple. Once you have

access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take a 
picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed description

of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more information. Be 
My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with more to come. 

 

And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you want to 
check its results, or if you just need a little more assistance than Be My

AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated volunteers, 
just like before. 

 

You can 

learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post

or by visiting the 

Help Center

on our website. 

 

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that hundreds of 
thousands of people will now be able to experience this exciting new tool.

Make sure to share the news with your friends, family and colleagues! 

 

Right now we’ll only be releasing Be My AI with users who use iOS devices. But 
Android users fear not. We are currently in a closed beta test of Be My

AI on Android devices, and we hope to make it more broadly available for open 
beta testing in the coming months. If you are interested in joining the Android

beta test, you can already 

sign up for the Android waitlist

in the Be My Eyes app. 

 

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to us at 

supp...@bemyeyes.com  .

 

 

And happy exploring! 

 

P.S: Do you know another blind or low-vision person who can benefit from this 
new feature? Make sure to forward this email to them and invite them to try out 
Be My AI on the Be My Eyes app! 

Thank you!

RE: not grasping autoCorrect

Where do you turn off Predictive Text, please? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not grasping autoCorrect

I personally cannot stand predictive text.  If you want to try autocorrect, 
turn off predictive text so  you are dealing with one feature.

Supposedly, if there is a misspelled word, you can turn the rotor to misspelled 
words and I believe it is a flick left to land on the suggestions.

I'd consider contacting Apple Accessibility.

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
dlmlao...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: not grasping autoCorrect

In an attempt to improve my writing and perhaps to assist others, I am at long 
last playing around with functions such as autoCorrect and Predictive text. I 
really don’t get autoCorrect. In Notes on my 12 pro still running iOS16, 
sometimes I get a bubble, mostly I don’t. It doesn’t seem like AugoCorrect in 
Word, where its purpose is to correct whole words. I guess it uses the keyboard 
dictionary, which I believe to be uneditable. I make an intentional error and 
hear nothing. If I hear a bubble, and  this can happen in the middle of a word, 
I’m not entirely sure what to do. I also gather it is good to turn Spoken 
Content on in General Accessibility settings, but this isn’t a VoiceOver 
setting, so I don’t understand the interplay of the settings. I received a 
document from Apple Disability Support which didn’t answer my questions. 

Can anybody enlighten me about all this? 

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RE: not grasping autoCorrect

I could not find Auto Correct in Spoken Content; I'd like to turn mine off. 

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Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 10:45 AM
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Hello,

What you need to do is go into settings, accessibility, spoken content, and 
then turn auto correct on. Then it will announce what is in the bubble you 
hear. When you hear the word, press the spacebar to activate or put it in your 
document. Hope this helps.

Jenn

Jennie Facer 

On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:41 AM,  
 wrote:

In an attempt to improve my writing and perhaps to assist others, I am 
at long last playing around with functions such as autoCorrect and Predictive 
text. I really don’t get autoCorrect. In Notes on my 12 pro still running 
iOS16, sometimes I get a bubble, mostly I don’t. It doesn’t seem like 
AugoCorrect in Word, where its purpose is to correct whole words. I guess it 
uses the keyboard dictionary, which I believe to be uneditable. I make an 
intentional error and hear nothing. If I hear a bubble, and  this can happen in 
the middle of a word, I’m not entirely sure what to do. I also gather it is 
good to turn Spoken Content on in General Accessibility settings, but this 
isn’t a VoiceOver setting, so I don’t understand the interplay of the settings. 
I received a document from Apple Disability Support which didn’t answer my 
questions. 

Can anybody enlighten me about all this? 

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RE: not grasping autoCorrect

I would like to disable auto complete. How can I do that, please? 

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dlmlao...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: not grasping autoCorrect

In an attempt to improve my writing and perhaps to assist others, I am at long 
last playing around with functions such as autoCorrect and Predictive text. I 
really don’t get autoCorrect. In Notes on my 12 pro still running iOS16, 
sometimes I get a bubble, mostly I don’t. It doesn’t seem like AugoCorrect in 
Word, where its purpose is to correct whole words. I guess it uses the keyboard 
dictionary, which I believe to be uneditable. I make an intentional error and 
hear nothing. If I hear a bubble, and  this can happen in the middle of a word, 
I’m not entirely sure what to do. I also gather it is good to turn Spoken 
Content on in General Accessibility settings, but this isn’t a VoiceOver 
setting, so I don’t understand the interplay of the settings. I received a 
document from Apple Disability Support which didn’t answer my questions. 

Can anybody enlighten me about all this? 
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Re: differences

2023-09-25 Thread Dennis Long

Based on Jonathan Mosen’s podcast i will  be getting a pro max. I was already laning that way. On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:04 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:The pro apart from a longer-lasting battery, has the new "Action- button, which you can set up for a whole bunch of stuff! Jonathan Mosen has come out with a great episode of his "Living Blindfully" podcast in which he describes his experiences with his new toy. Good luck!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 sep 2023, a la(s) 11:40 a.m., kathymbr...@gmail.com escribió:I want a 15 and was wondering why  people are getting the pro verses the 15? Kathy Brack 



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RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, 
painting or even just a room is amazing.
I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day 
and here is what Be My AI described:


The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is 
a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above 
the dresser is plain with a light gray color.

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window 
has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a 
cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back 
of the chair.

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The 
dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, 
there is an orange toy.
The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost 
white labrador guide dog.
The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop 
on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I 
was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be 
visible and not the keyboard.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS
Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's 
describing capabilities
Hi dennis,

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of 
thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!

Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My 
Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our
iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more 
and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will
have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app 
updated.

While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a guide dog, 
using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and simple. Once you have
access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take a 
picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed description
of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more information. Be 
My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with more to come.

And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you want to 
check its results, or if you just need a little more assistance than Be My
AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated volunteers, 
just like before.

You can
learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post
or by visiting the
Help Center
on our website.

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that hundreds of 
thousands of people will now be able to experience this exciting new tool.
Make sure to share the news with your friends, family and colleagues!

Right now we’ll only be releasing Be My AI with users who use iOS devices. But 
Android users fear not. We are currently in a closed beta test of Be My
AI on Android devices, and we hope to make it more broadly available for open 
beta testing in the coming months. If you are interested in joining the Android
beta test, you can already
sign up for the Android waitlist
in the Be My Eyes app.

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to us at
supp...@bemyeyes.com.


And happy exploring!

P.S: Do you know another blind or low-vision person who can benefit from this 
new feature? Make sure to forward this email to them and invite them to try out 
Be My AI on the Be My Eyes app!
Thank you!

Mike, CEO of Be My Eyes
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Re: differences

2023-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio

The pro apart from a longer-lasting battery, has the new "Action- button, which you can set up for a whole bunch of stuff! Jonathan Mosen has come out with a great episode of his "Living Blindfully" podcast in which he describes his experiences with his new toy. Good luck!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 sep 2023, a la(s) 11:40 a.m., kathymbr...@gmail.com escribió:I want a 15 and was wondering why  people are getting the pro verses the 15? Kathy Brack 



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RE: Copy Button in Be My AI?

Swipe up with one finger when the description is there, then double tap.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
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Subject: Copy Button in Be My AI?

Hi, Group.
Other day, I found Copy button in Be My AI of Be My Eyes and copied the 
description of my photo given by Be My Eyes.
I can not recall how I found it, could someone, please, remind me where I 
should look for that? Thanks!

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RE: differences

iPhone 15 Pro has a Slightly better battery
iPhone 15 Pro has the LiDAR sensor which allows for features like door 
detection, instant text recognition using the magnifier app etc. App developers 
can potentially use this and I like having it.
15 Pro has the new action button which you can program to answer/hang up calls, 
trigger the camera and more, regular iPhone 15 does not have it. This is one of 
the features why I definitely would go for a Pro
15 Pro  has the latest A17 chip, the regular iPhone 15 has last year's A16 
chip. In real life this will make little or no difference, however.
15 Pro has a better camera (Pro phones always do, whether this might be a good 
thing or not for a blind person is questionable)
15 Pro has a Titanium frame instead of a stainless steel frame which the older 
Pro phones have. That is noticeable if you compare, for example an iPhone 14 
Pro (206 grams) or 13 Pro (204 grams) and an iPhone 15 Pro (187 grams). It is a 
difference of around 20 grams which is around ¾ of an ounce.
Of course keep in mind that the regular 15, 14 and so on have an aluminum frame 
and not a stainless steel frame and the regular phones are typically slightly 
lighter than the Pro phones. In case of the iPhone 15 (171 grams) and the 
iPhone 15 Pro (187 grams) that difference is 16 grams which is actually just 
over half an ounce or like a tablespoon of water and holding both phones that 
will probably be noticeable.
If you went from an iPhone 13 Pro or 14 Pro to a regular iPhone 15 the weight 
difference is well over an ounce and would be very noticeable, but that upgrade 
does not make all that much sense especially not if you had a 14 Pro which as 
the same processor as the regular 15, but with the 14 Pro you have LiDAR which 
you would lose going to a 15. If you don't ever use it it's not a big deal, but 
if you do it would probably be something you miss.
Once again I feel an upgrade is really justified if you have an iPhone 11 or 11 
Pro or older, definitely if you have an iPhone 8 or older, but then you still 
have to decide if you want to spend very big bucks to go to a 15 Pro since by 
now an iPhone 8 would be worth only maybe $150 if you sold it. If your phone 
needs upgrading but you can get by for another 2 months I think waiting for 
Black Friday/Cyber Monday is the way to go, by then we'll know how well the new 
phones really sell and if providers and stores still have phones like the 13 
Pro in stock you would most likely find some very smoking good deals, but even 
a 14 or 14 Pro then would be available for a much better deal than right now.

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Subject: differences

I want a 15 and was wondering why  people are getting the pro verses the 15?

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differences

2023-09-25 Thread kathymbrack

I want a 15 and was wondering why  people are getting the pro verses the 15?

 

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RE: Pro vs Max

The screen on the 15 Pro and your XR is the same 6.1 inches. Of course your XR 
I am pretty sure still has an LCD screen whereas the 15 Pro has an OLED screen.
As for actual size, the iPhone 15 Pro is slightly smaller due to the fact that 
nowadays the bezzels are smaller which allows you to put the same size screen 
on a slightly smaller phone.
This is also indicated by the percentage of screen-to-body ratio which is part 
of the information below:

iPhone XR
Screen: 6.1 inches, 90.3 cm² (79.0% screen-to-body ratio)
Body: 150.9 x 75.7 x 8.3 mm (5.94 x 2.98 x 0.33 in)
Weight: 194 grams (6.84 oz)

iPhone 15 Pro
Screen: 6.1 inches, 91.3 cm² (88.2% screen-to-body ratio)
Body: 146.6 x 70.6 x 8.3 mm (5.77 x 2.78 x 0.33 in)
Weight: 187 g (6.60 oz)

iPhone 15 Pro is smaller than the XR by the following measurements:
Height: 4.3 mm (that is right in between an eighth of an inch and a quarter 
inch, to be exact it is very close to 3/16 of an inch.
Width: 5.1 mm which is even slightly more of a difference in width, still not 
quite a quarter of an inch, but fairly close and it would be noticeable.
Thickness: same/no difference
Weight: 15 Pro is 7 grams lighter, that is sort of like 2 teaspoons of salt and 
you would be hard pressed to notice that.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

Thanks, Kelly. So with regard to the screen on the 15 Pro, how is it for 
typing. I’m probably one of the few people who still tap taps with one finger 
on the keyboard, and after all this time with this phone, I’ve gotten fairly 
good at it. so I’m just curious about the size of the screen and how long it’s 
taking you to adjust, unless of course you’re using braille or an external 
keyboard.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2023, at 5:35 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I went with the newer phone now, because as I understand it next summer, I 
> won’t be able to update to the next version of iOS and if that’s going to be 
> the case, I decided I would get the newer model as early as possible because 
> I like to run test versions of the next OS release.
> 
> I will say the one other thing that I have noticed in how I use my phone that 
> is faster is the results of dictation being processed if I use the phone 
> dictation feature for text input.
> 
> I am generally someone who likes to keep my existing phone until I’m no 
> longer able to update the operating system. I had used my iPhone 5S until I 
> bought the 10R.
> 
> I am told that pictures from the 15 are visually noticeably better, but I 
> don’t really have a way to quantify that. I mean, yes, I understand the 
> megapixels and such as far as the technical specifics. I don’t know yet, if 
> that translates to more detail when using the various artificial intelligence 
> services to describe photos.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting. I also have a 10 r with which I am quite happy. But I was 
>> thinking about getting a 15 pro because it’s a lot newer and I thought it 
>> might have better performance better battery life and the better camera. 
>> But, Kelly, based on your comments, I’m thinking about not bothering.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I appreciate all the replies here.
>>> 
>>> I did go with the iPhone 15 Pro and have been using it since Friday. I 
>>> chose the Pro in large part because I prefer the smaller size. That said, 
>>> so far I’m really not noticing meaningful differences in most tasks between 
>>> my iPhone 10R and this 15 Pro. Apps might launch a bit faster but VoiceOver 
>>> performance when moving between items is about the same and add-heavy web 
>>> sites with videos that play muted by default still seem to bring VoiceOver 
>>> to very problematic web performance.
>>> 
>>> I’m not saying any of this to be critical and it is too early to know about 
>>> battery performance.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

 Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since I 
 am running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors up 
 frunt but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I phone 
 14 prow is 151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have always 
 gotten a case with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard Ontario 
 Canada.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Richard
 Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Pro vs Max

 I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My concern 
 is the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I hate to 
 haul around a case or belt  pouch. For any of

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RE: Copy Button in Be My AI?

2023-09-25 Thread mbwhite

I found that option a few weeks ago.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Copy Button in Be My AI?

If you have the AI feature, you are beta.

But, what I found accidentally is that if you flick up with one finger there is 
a copy button.

Since I have the beta, I don't know if it was there before.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Copy Button in Be My AI?

Hello, are you beta?

I don't have picture in my app.

Lyne

Le 25 sept. 2023 à 12:54, Mohammad Fazil mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > a écrit :

Hi, Group.

Other day, I found Copy button in Be My AI of Be My Eyes and copied the 
description of my photo given by Be My Eyes.

I can not recall how I found it, could someone, please, remind me where I 
should look for that? Thanks!

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RE: Copy Button in Be My AI?

2023-09-25 Thread Richard Turner

If you have the AI feature, you are beta.

But, what I found accidentally is that if you flick up with one finger there is 
a copy button.

Since I have the beta, I don't know if it was there before.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Copy Button in Be My AI?

 

Hello, are you beta?

I don't have picture in my app.

Lyne





Le 25 sept. 2023 à 12:54, Mohammad Fazil mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > a écrit :

 

Hi, Group.

Other day, I found Copy button in Be My AI of Be My Eyes and copied the 
description of my photo given by Be My Eyes.

I can not recall how I found it, could someone, please, remind me where I 
should look for that? Thanks!

 

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Re: Copy Button in Be My AI?

2023-09-25 Thread Lyne

Hello, are you beta?
I don't have picture in my app.

Lyne

> Le 25 sept. 2023 à 12:54, Mohammad Fazil  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi, Group.
> Other day, I found Copy button in Be My AI of Be My Eyes and copied the 
> description of my photo given by Be My Eyes.
> I can not recall how I found it, could someone, please, remind me where I 
> should look for that? Thanks!
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Re: Copy Button in Be My AI?

Hi,

If you touch the text and then swipe up and down one of the actions should be 
copy.

On Sep 25, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:


Hi, Group.
Other day, I found Copy button in Be My AI of Be My Eyes and copied the 
description of my photo given by Be My Eyes.
I can not recall how I found it, could someone, please, remind me where I 
should look for that? Thanks!


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Copy Button in Be My AI?

2023-09-25 Thread Mohammad Fazil

Hi, Group.
Other day, I found Copy button in Be My AI of Be My Eyes and copied the 
description of my photo given by Be My Eyes.
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Re: Pro vs Max

Hi Mary,

The screen on this 15 Pro is pretty much, the same as it was as far as size on 
the 10 R. For me, who does most of my typing with the touch keyboard on the 
phone, it has been the same as typing on the iPhone XR. Those really been no 
change in the experience, so no time to adapt.

As I mentioned, part of the driving factor for me, upgrading, was planning for 
next year‘s releases. I didn’t want to find myself in the case of feeling 
compelled to buy the iPhone 15 Pro next summer, just to use the new operating 
systems, knowing there’d be a new model of the phone out in a few months at 
that point.

Kelly

> On Sep 25, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Kelly. So with regard to the screen on the 15 Pro, how is it for 
> typing. I’m probably one of the few people who still tap taps with one finger 
> on the keyboard, and after all this time with this phone, I’ve gotten fairly 
> good at it. so I’m just curious about the size of the screen and how long 
> it’s taking you to adjust, unless of course you’re using braille or an 
> external keyboard.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2023, at 5:35 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I went with the newer phone now, because as I understand it next summer, I 
>> won’t be able to update to the next version of iOS and if that’s going to be 
>> the case, I decided I would get the newer model as early as possible because 
>> I like to run test versions of the next OS release.
>> 
>> I will say the one other thing that I have noticed in how I use my phone 
>> that is faster is the results of dictation being processed if I use the 
>> phone dictation feature for text input.
>> 
>> I am generally someone who likes to keep my existing phone until I’m no 
>> longer able to update the operating system. I had used my iPhone 5S until I 
>> bought the 10R.
>> 
>> I am told that pictures from the 15 are visually noticeably better, but I 
>> don’t really have a way to quantify that. I mean, yes, I understand the 
>> megapixels and such as far as the technical specifics. I don’t know yet, if 
>> that translates to more detail when using the various artificial 
>> intelligence services to describe photos.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting. I also have a 10 r with which I am quite happy. But I was 
>>> thinking about getting a 15 pro because it’s a lot newer and I thought it 
>>> might have better performance better battery life and the better camera. 
>>> But, Kelly, based on your comments, I’m thinking about not bothering.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
 
 I appreciate all the replies here.
 
 I did go with the iPhone 15 Pro and have been using it since Friday. I 
 chose the Pro in large part because I prefer the smaller size. That said, 
 so far I’m really not noticing meaningful differences in most tasks 
 between my iPhone 10R and this 15 Pro. Apps might launch a bit faster but 
 VoiceOver performance when moving between items is about the same and 
 add-heavy web sites with videos that play muted by default still seem to 
 bring VoiceOver to very problematic web performance.
 
 I’m not saying any of this to be critical and it is too early to know 
 about battery performance.
 
 Kelly
 
 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
> Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since 
> I am running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors 
> up frunt but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I 
> phone 14 prow is 151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have 
> always gotten a case with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard 
> Ontario Canada.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Pro vs Max
> 
> I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My 
> concern is the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I 
> hate to haul around a case or belt  pouch. For any of you who use the 
> Max, does it fit into a shirt pocket? I guess I'll find out when I go to 
> buy a phone.
> 
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Julian
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
> 
> I was doing the same thing until I decided to upgrade to the 15 Pro. I so 
> wish that they would make a smart battery case for these phones.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>

Re: Pro vs Max

2023-09-25 Thread Mary Otten

Thanks, Kelly. So with regard to the screen on the 15 Pro, how is it for 
typing. I’m probably one of the few people who still tap taps with one finger 
on the keyboard, and after all this time with this phone, I’ve gotten fairly 
good at it. so I’m just curious about the size of the screen and how long it’s 
taking you to adjust, unless of course you’re using braille or an external 
keyboard.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2023, at 5:35 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I went with the newer phone now, because as I understand it next summer, I 
> won’t be able to update to the next version of iOS and if that’s going to be 
> the case, I decided I would get the newer model as early as possible because 
> I like to run test versions of the next OS release.
> 
> I will say the one other thing that I have noticed in how I use my phone that 
> is faster is the results of dictation being processed if I use the phone 
> dictation feature for text input.
> 
> I am generally someone who likes to keep my existing phone until I’m no 
> longer able to update the operating system. I had used my iPhone 5S until I 
> bought the 10R.
> 
> I am told that pictures from the 15 are visually noticeably better, but I 
> don’t really have a way to quantify that. I mean, yes, I understand the 
> megapixels and such as far as the technical specifics. I don’t know yet, if 
> that translates to more detail when using the various artificial intelligence 
> services to describe photos.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting. I also have a 10 r with which I am quite happy. But I was 
>> thinking about getting a 15 pro because it’s a lot newer and I thought it 
>> might have better performance better battery life and the better camera. 
>> But, Kelly, based on your comments, I’m thinking about not bothering.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I appreciate all the replies here.
>>> 
>>> I did go with the iPhone 15 Pro and have been using it since Friday. I 
>>> chose the Pro in large part because I prefer the smaller size. That said, 
>>> so far I’m really not noticing meaningful differences in most tasks between 
>>> my iPhone 10R and this 15 Pro. Apps might launch a bit faster but VoiceOver 
>>> performance when moving between items is about the same and add-heavy web 
>>> sites with videos that play muted by default still seem to bring VoiceOver 
>>> to very problematic web performance.
>>> 
>>> I’m not saying any of this to be critical and it is too early to know about 
>>> battery performance.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 
 Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since I 
 am running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors up 
 frunt but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I phone 
 14 prow is 151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have always 
 gotten a case with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard Ontario 
 Canada.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Richard
 Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Pro vs Max
 
 I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My concern 
 is the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I hate to 
 haul around a case or belt  pouch. For any of you who use the Max, does it 
 fit into a shirt pocket? I guess I'll find out when I go to buy a phone.
 
 Richard Petty
 richard.pe...@earthlink.net
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Julian
 Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
 
 I was doing the same thing until I decided to upgrade to the 15 Pro. I so 
 wish that they would make a smart battery case for these phones.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> You made me laugh out loud, Andy.  Thank you so much.
> 
> I have more than a few appliances about which I feel the exact same way, 
> as you.
> 
> With a big smile,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
> 
> I still have the one i bought with my old iPhone 8 and it still works 
> with the SE 3rd Gen. and you will have to pry it out of my cold dead 
> fingers.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Julian" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
> 
> 
> I

Re: an oddity with messaging after 17.0.1 updateIt turns out

2023-09-25 Thread Dan



  
  
Ok, I found the problem.


It turns out that the update turned on a setting that I haven't
  seen before.


If you go into accessibility settings and then go down to almost
  the bottom of the screen you will find a button called Siri.  If
  you click on that and then go down to almost the bottom of the
  screen again you'll find a button called "announce notifications
  on speaker".  It is a switch button.  Mine was on.  I turned it
  off and now my phone behaves as I prefer again.  It wakes the
  phone and VO reads the incoming message to me.

 

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 9/25/2023 9:11 AM, Dan wrote:


  This actually started with 17.0.
  
  
  I am seeing a situation where most messages that come in wake
the phone and show the home screen with the message near the
bottom of the screen.  This is normal behavior for my phone. 
But since 17.0 some messages are coming in with a different
message sound than I have set for messages and it doesn't wake
the phone and Siri reads the message anyway.  This is starting
to bug me.  I have looked all over the settings and can't find
anything that would cause this behavior and can't find a way to
make it behave the way it used to.
  
  
  Has anyone else seen this and if so does anyone know how to
stop it?
  
  
  I am using an Iphone SE2020.
  
  
  
  
  -- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

  




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an oddity with messaging after 17.0.1 update

2023-09-25 Thread Dan



  
  
This actually started with 17.0.

  
I am seeing a situation where most
messages that come in wake the phone and show the home screen
with the message near the bottom of the screen.  This is normal
behavior for my phone.  But since 17.0 some messages are coming
in with a different message sound than I have set for messages
and it doesn't wake the phone and Siri reads the message
anyway.  This is starting to bug me.  I have looked all over the
settings and can't find anything that would cause this behavior
and can't find a way to make it behave the way it used to.

  
Has anyone else seen this and if so does
anyone know how to stop it?

  
I am using an Iphone SE2020.

  

  
-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
  




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Re: Pro vs Max

2023-09-25 Thread Lisa Belville


Mich,


I upgraded from a 12 Pro to a 14 Pro.  My reasoning was that there 
wasn't really anything I needed on the 15 model.  yes, it has a better 
camera, but for the purposes of OCR and general photos it didn't matter 
to me.



It is a bit thinner than my old 12 Pro.  coming from an iPhone 8 the 14 
would be a huge improvement.



Oh, and my carrier gave me $700 off on my trade in, so I have just under 
$300 for the 14 Pro, which I will probably pay off long before the three 
years is up.



Even paying taxes, you're still getting a good deal and the 14 will be 
able to take updates for several years.



Also, the lightening cables still work with it, though I did have to get 
a USBC charging brick.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/24/2023 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since I am 
running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors up frunt 
but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I phone 14 prow is 
151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have always gotten a case 
with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pro vs Max

I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My concern is 
the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I hate to haul 
around a case or belt  pouch. For any of you who use the Max, does it fit into 
a shirt pocket? I guess I'll find out when I go to buy a phone.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

I was doing the same thing until I decided to upgrade to the 15 Pro. I so wish 
that they would make a smart battery case for these phones.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2023, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

You made me laugh out loud, Andy.  Thank you so much.

I have more than a few appliances about which I feel the exact same way, as you.

With a big smile,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

I still have the one i bought with my old iPhone 8 and it still works with the 
SE 3rd Gen. and you will have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Julian" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max


I really wish Apple would bring back the smart battery case. It is one
of the accessories I really miss. When I used one of those cases, I
never had to worry about charging throughout the day when I was out and about.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Robert Stigile

wrote:

I am sure those numbers are with basic use!
I am lucky to get ten hours with my 14 pro max when using oko aira
zoom texting email and calling during the day!
Maybe they should have us test the battery with that use and then
they can put their numbers out!
Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the
Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568
Kn6uvd


On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:13 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
 wrote:

15 Plus: 23 hours
15 Pro: 26 hours
15 Max: 29 hours


- Original Message -
From: lenron brown 
Date: 09/24/2023 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

Hm I don't even get 2 days with my max. When I got it I got about 16
to 18 hours, but now I still can get through 12 or 14 depending on
what I am doing. Once you really start to break these phones in the
battery doesn't last as long because your doing everything on it. I
read I watch youtube, and do a bit of social media. Along with my
banking and gps. So I am never complaining about more battery life.

On 9/24/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

I got an iPhone 14 Pro this past summer. I don't use the battery as
heavily as some of you, but I routinely get two days on one charge,
so I think the odds are good it would last through a whole day if I
did use the GPS extensively for a day. I'm not doubting that the
battery life on the Max is better, just saying it's surprisingly
good on the regular Pro as well.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 23, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I can't remember the numbers, but the battery life for the plus is
not like the battery life for the promax. My problem with the
promax, aside from the price, is the screen size. I can't imagine
holding this thing in one hand and actually doing stuff on the
screen like I do with my 10 R.
So
I think the big screens are not good for me. And it looks like
according to rumors, next year's Apple phones are going to be
bigger than this year's. I have an iPad mini. I don't need

Re: Pro vs Max

Hi Mary,

I went with the newer phone now, because as I understand it next summer, I 
won’t be able to update to the next version of iOS and if that’s going to be 
the case, I decided I would get the newer model as early as possible because I 
like to run test versions of the next OS release.

I will say the one other thing that I have noticed in how I use my phone that 
is faster is the results of dictation being processed if I use the phone 
dictation feature for text input.

I am generally someone who likes to keep my existing phone until I’m no longer 
able to update the operating system. I had used my iPhone 5S until I bought the 
10R.

I am told that pictures from the 15 are visually noticeably better, but I don’t 
really have a way to quantify that. I mean, yes, I understand the megapixels 
and such as far as the technical specifics. I don’t know yet, if that 
translates to more detail when using the various artificial intelligence 
services to describe photos.

Kelly

> On Sep 24, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. I also have a 10 r with which I am quite happy. But I was 
> thinking about getting a 15 pro because it’s a lot newer and I thought it 
> might have better performance better battery life and the better camera. But, 
> Kelly, based on your comments, I’m thinking about not bothering.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> I appreciate all the replies here.
>> 
>> I did go with the iPhone 15 Pro and have been using it since Friday. I chose 
>> the Pro in large part because I prefer the smaller size. That said, so far 
>> I’m really not noticing meaningful differences in most tasks between my 
>> iPhone 10R and this 15 Pro. Apps might launch a bit faster but VoiceOver 
>> performance when moving between items is about the same and add-heavy web 
>> sites with videos that play muted by default still seem to bring VoiceOver 
>> to very problematic web performance.
>> 
>> I’m not saying any of this to be critical and it is too early to know about 
>> battery performance.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since I 
>>> am running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors up 
>>> frunt but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I phone 
>>> 14 prow is 151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have always 
>>> gotten a case with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard Ontario 
>>> Canada.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard
>>> Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Pro vs Max
>>> 
>>> I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My concern 
>>> is the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I hate to 
>>> haul around a case or belt  pouch. For any of you who use the Max, does it 
>>> fit into a shirt pocket? I guess I'll find out when I go to buy a phone.
>>> 
>>> Richard Petty
>>> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Julian
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
>>> 
>>> I was doing the same thing until I decided to upgrade to the 15 Pro. I so 
>>> wish that they would make a smart battery case for these phones.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 24, 2023, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

 You made me laugh out loud, Andy.  Thank you so much.

 I have more than a few appliances about which I feel the exact same way, 
 as you.

 With a big smile,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Andy Baracco
 Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:06 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

 I still have the one i bought with my old iPhone 8 and it still works with 
 the SE 3rd Gen. and you will have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers.

 Andy

 - Original Message -
 From: "Julian" 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

 I really wish Apple would bring back the smart battery case. It is one
 of the accessories I really miss. When I used one of those cases, I
 never had to worry about charging throughout the day when I was out and 
 about.
 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Robert Stigile
> 
> wrote:
> 
> I am sure those numbers are with basic use!
> I am lucky to get ten hours with my 14 pro max when using oko aira
> zoom texting email and calling during the day!
> Maybe they should have us test the battery with that use and then
> they can put their numbers out!

Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments

2023-09-25 Thread William Outman

In fact the iPhone 8 models will not take iOS 17. That’s why I am replacing my 
8 Plus with a 15 Pro imminently.  That’s along with the fact I no longer have 
the rubberized protector or holster case. Got five years out of that phone. 
I’ll probably try to get that order completed later today. 
Bill Outman 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> The person whose message preceded mine suggested Terri get an SE second 
> generation. I'm running an iPhone 8. I like being able to use touch ID, as I 
> think it's more discreet than face ID: just my opinion. My phone is still 
> doing what I need it to do, but I don't think there will be many more 
> updates.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 1:53 PM, Richard Turner 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> First, Kathy, if you are asking how long the 12 mini will be supported, no 
>> one knows exactly other than maybe Apple; however, considering the XR is a 
>> couple years older than the 12 mini and it is able to run iOS 17, I would 
>> guess the 12 mini will be supported for at least 2 more years, if not more. 
>> 
>> Terri asked a lot of questions. 
>> First, as far as I can tell, for object identification and OCR the new 48 
>> pixel camera in the 15 pro won't make those functions any better.  The 
>> higher the pixels perhaps the better the picture for someone sighted but for 
>> the kind of stuff most blind people need, you do not need that level of 
>> camera. 
>> 
>> I would check with Apple about the USBC cable that will come with the 15 
>> models to find out if the end that goes into the charging block is also 
>> USBC, which I suspect it is.  That would mean you need a charging block with 
>> the USBC port not the standard USB A port. 
>> 
>> Note, the chip in the 15 and 15 plus is the same chip as in the 14 pro, so 
>> if that is at all important to you, it will be less expensive to go with the 
>> 14 pro if you decide to upgrade this year. 
>> 
>> I personally have the 13 pro and see nothing to make me want to upgrade to 
>> the 15 pro.  I'll probably stick with this phone for several years and will 
>> replace the battery when the time comes. 
>> 
>> That is what I can remember to address in your questions.  
>> Most decisions to upgrade are based on exactly what features you want. 
>> 
>> HTH, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA. 
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
>> Blackburn 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 11:38 AM 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments 
>> 
>> For how much longer will this model be supported? 
>> 
>> Kathy Blackburn 
>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver 
>>  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and 
>>> greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would 
>>> be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is 
>>> substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would 
>>> not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, 
>>> you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and 
>>> chords because the S.E. has the lightning port. 
>>> Fred Olver - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Terri Stimmel"  
>>> To:  
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM 
>>> Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments 
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello everyone, 

 First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and 
 opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with 
 them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. 

 I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do 
 it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. 
 It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. 

 However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade 
 now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. 
 Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the 
 cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this 
 phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, 
 if I ever want to upgrade. 

 My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service 
 message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I 
 could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me 
 thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. 

 I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know 
 some of this

RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.